¤¤ 00:00:02.10\00:00:34.56 >> Hello and welcome to It Is 00:00:45.07\00:00:46.24 Written Canada. 00:00:46.24\00:00:47.11 Thank you for joining us. 00:00:47.11\00:00:48.31 Rémy Ballais is the face of the 00:00:48.31\00:00:50.41 It Is Written Canada French 00:00:50.41\00:00:52.01 program, Il Et Écrit with its 00:00:52.01\00:00:54.72 broadcasting studios located 00:00:54.72\00:00:56.52 right here in Montreal, Quebec. 00:00:56.52\00:00:59.29 [RENÉ] Today we are so excited 00:00:59.29\00:01:01.26 to be meeting Rémy who has 00:01:01.26\00:01:02.99 agreed to share some of his 00:01:02.99\00:01:04.53 story of how God has led in 00:01:04.53\00:01:07.40 his life. 00:01:07.40\00:01:08.86 Rémy, welcome to It Is Written 00:01:08.86\00:01:11.17 Canada. 00:01:11.17\00:01:12.20 >> Thank you for having me with 00:01:12.20\00:01:13.47 you in this show. 00:01:13.47\00:01:15.30 >> And thank you for welcoming 00:01:15.30\00:01:16.34 us into your studio here in 00:01:16.34\00:01:19.34 Montreal. 00:01:19.34\00:01:20.41 >> So, Rémy, you have a family, 00:01:21.18\00:01:25.28 tell us a little bit about your 00:01:25.28\00:01:26.05 family and then we can talk 00:01:26.05\00:01:27.55 about your background. 00:01:27.55\00:01:28.85 [RÉMY] Yes. 00:01:28.85\00:01:29.52 I'm from France, I was born and 00:01:29.52\00:01:31.52 raised in a Christian family, 00:01:31.52\00:01:33.42 an Adventist family, I have one 00:01:33.42\00:01:35.99 brother and, yes, I enjoyed 00:01:35.99\00:01:40.13 living close to Paris that time. 00:01:40.13\00:01:42.83 I lived in the suburb around 00:01:42.83\00:01:46.57 Paris for 18 years. 00:01:46.57\00:01:48.14 My parents were very much 00:01:49.54\00:01:52.41 involved, committed Christian, 00:01:52.41\00:01:54.11 involved in the church. 00:01:54.11\00:01:55.71 My dad was an elder in church, 00:01:55.71\00:01:58.35 my mom was, she was a musician, 00:01:58.35\00:02:01.98 she was a choir director. 00:02:01.98\00:02:04.12 So music is a part of my-- has 00:02:04.99\00:02:08.26 been a part of my life 00:02:08.26\00:02:09.89 for many years. 00:02:09.89\00:02:11.09 [MIKE] So the music rubbed off 00:02:11.56\00:02:12.49 on you, you are a singer... 00:02:12.49\00:02:15.13 [RÉMY] Yes, I'm not a soloist, 00:02:15.86\00:02:17.93 but I love to sing, sing in 00:02:17.93\00:02:22.50 choir, sing with group... 00:02:22.50\00:02:25.57 So right now I sing with a 00:02:25.57\00:02:27.34 group of five and I enjoy it. 00:02:27.34\00:02:29.24 I met my wife in France, she's 00:02:30.35\00:02:31.95 from Denmark. 00:02:31.95\00:02:33.05 She came to France to study 00:02:33.48\00:02:34.88 French, French language and we 00:02:34.88\00:02:37.85 met there in Collonges for 00:02:37.85\00:02:39.95 those who may know, close to 00:02:39.95\00:02:42.39 Geneva. 00:02:42.39\00:02:43.26 And so, yeah, we met there, we 00:02:44.53\00:02:48.03 fell in love and were married. 00:02:48.03\00:02:50.63 >> And now you have children, 00:02:50.63\00:02:52.73 grandchildren? 00:02:52.73\00:02:53.80 >> Two daughters and now three 00:02:53.80\00:02:56.07 grandchildren. 00:02:56.07\00:02:57.27 [RENÉ] Because you grew up as 00:02:59.47\00:03:01.31 an Adventist, did you feel like 00:03:01.31\00:03:04.51 it became-- it was your faith 00:03:04.51\00:03:07.68 or your parents' faith? 00:03:07.68\00:03:09.55 >> At that time I thought it 00:03:10.75\00:03:11.95 was my faith, but when I look 00:03:11.95\00:03:15.69 back at the real story, I'd say 00:03:15.69\00:03:18.19 no, I was just in a Christian 00:03:18.19\00:03:20.90 family and I went to church. 00:03:20.90\00:03:23.50 But when I was 11, 12 the 00:03:24.23\00:03:28.27 reality was that I had kind of a 00:03:28.27\00:03:30.47 double life, double personality. 00:03:30.47\00:03:32.77 At church, the nice little boy, 00:03:33.58\00:03:36.28 I knew my Bible, I could answer 00:03:36.28\00:03:38.45 the questions, but during the 00:03:38.45\00:03:40.72 week, it was something 00:03:40.72\00:03:42.02 completely different. 00:03:42.02\00:03:43.35 I started smoking, read 00:03:44.42\00:03:47.42 magazines that I shouldn't have 00:03:47.42\00:03:48.92 read that age or even later. 00:03:48.92\00:03:51.73 I begin to steal money... 00:03:52.86\00:03:56.50 ...my parents' money actually, 00:03:58.33\00:04:01.74 not proud of that, but was part 00:04:01.74\00:04:04.07 of my life at that time. 00:04:04.07\00:04:05.91 And so two different lives. 00:04:05.91\00:04:08.54 >> Were your parents aware 00:04:09.54\00:04:10.55 of this? 00:04:10.55\00:04:11.45 [RÉMY] Not really. 00:04:11.45\00:04:12.78 I was good at pretending to be 00:04:12.78\00:04:15.78 a good Christian, they didn't 00:04:15.78\00:04:17.59 know, they know now, but at 00:04:17.59\00:04:20.52 that time they thought I was a 00:04:20.52\00:04:22.72 good boy. 00:04:22.72\00:04:23.73 And so what happened that-- is 00:04:24.39\00:04:28.23 that when I turned 13, we went 00:04:28.23\00:04:32.37 to, not a camp meeting, kind of 00:04:32.37\00:04:34.60 a spiritual gathering. 00:04:34.60\00:04:36.30 I went with my parents because 00:04:37.87\00:04:39.47 at that age I would follow them 00:04:39.47\00:04:42.51 everywhere and God was about to 00:04:42.51\00:04:46.25 surprise me at that meeting. 00:04:46.25\00:04:48.45 >> So there was a big influence 00:04:48.45\00:04:50.32 at that gathering... 00:04:50.32\00:04:51.52 >> Oh, yes. 00:04:51.52\00:04:52.52 >> ...that helped you to find 00:04:52.52\00:04:55.76 who you really were, like, you 00:04:55.76\00:04:57.73 were obviously struggling 00:04:57.73\00:04:59.06 'cause you were trying to be 00:04:59.06\00:05:00.50 one person at church and 00:05:00.50\00:05:02.33 another person, really, in your 00:05:02.33\00:05:04.33 private life. 00:05:04.33\00:05:05.37 >> I didn't realize that I was 00:05:05.73\00:05:07.50 lying to myself and to my 00:05:07.50\00:05:09.50 parents and to everybody, see? 00:05:09.50\00:05:11.81 But, yes, at that gathering 00:05:12.44\00:05:14.78 something happened that changed 00:05:14.78\00:05:16.11 my life. 00:05:16.11\00:05:16.91 It was a five-day gathering. 00:05:16.91\00:05:19.51 One day I saw my dad speaking 00:05:19.51\00:05:23.28 with a man, I was around, and 00:05:23.28\00:05:27.02 what caught my attention is 00:05:27.02\00:05:29.36 that this man was stuttering. 00:05:29.36\00:05:32.36 So I listened to him and I 00:05:33.06\00:05:34.83 thought, "Oh, poor man, life 00:05:34.83\00:05:37.57 must be hard for him." 00:05:37.57\00:05:39.23 And then I left. 00:05:40.70\00:05:41.97 The day after, came the same 00:05:43.14\00:05:48.04 place, there was a meeting, a 00:05:48.04\00:05:50.38 devotional in the morning, I 00:05:50.38\00:05:52.81 looked at the platform and on 00:05:52.81\00:05:54.15 the platform I saw three 00:05:54.15\00:05:56.48 people, three men. 00:05:56.48\00:05:57.92 One of the three men was the 00:05:59.12\00:06:01.49 guy I had heard stuttering the 00:06:01.49\00:06:03.99 previous day and I thought, 00:06:03.99\00:06:06.16 "No, no way, he's not going to 00:06:06.16\00:06:09.16 speak to-- it's not possible." 00:06:09.16\00:06:12.03 Then I thought, "Well, maybe 00:06:12.80\00:06:14.80 he's gonna announce a song or 00:06:14.80\00:06:16.54 something like that." 00:06:16.54\00:06:17.77 There was a song, there was a 00:06:18.44\00:06:20.01 prayer, the man was still 00:06:20.01\00:06:22.31 sitting there on the platform. 00:06:22.31\00:06:23.88 Then they presented the speaker 00:06:24.85\00:06:27.85 for the devotion that day. 00:06:27.85\00:06:30.22 The man stood up, came to the 00:06:31.29\00:06:33.82 microphone. 00:06:33.82\00:06:34.86 So I was there looking at him 00:06:35.46\00:06:38.39 and my ears wide open. 00:06:38.39\00:06:41.10 He started speaking, one, two 00:06:41.93\00:06:44.43 sentence was a bit hard and all 00:06:44.43\00:06:47.74 of a sudden he spoke just like 00:06:47.74\00:06:49.37 you and me and he preached for 00:06:49.37\00:06:52.37 20 minutes without stuttering. 00:06:52.37\00:06:55.48 For me it was...it was-- 00:06:56.31\00:06:58.28 I was stunned. 00:06:58.28\00:06:59.38 What's going on? 00:07:00.88\00:07:01.92 I was witnessing a miracle. 00:07:03.25\00:07:05.19 Maybe I should just tell you 00:07:05.19\00:07:07.26 the story of this man 'cause 00:07:07.26\00:07:09.06 it's very amazing. 00:07:09.06\00:07:10.33 This man was a pastor, in fact. 00:07:11.13\00:07:12.79 He was a pastor, his name was 00:07:13.36\00:07:15.26 Andrew, André in French, and 00:07:15.26\00:07:18.43 Andrew was born and raised in a 00:07:18.43\00:07:22.30 Christian family. 00:07:22.30\00:07:23.97 At age 15, he felt called to 00:07:23.97\00:07:28.08 pastoral ministry. 00:07:28.08\00:07:29.21 So he decided to go to the 00:07:30.51\00:07:33.18 university to study theology. 00:07:33.18\00:07:35.02 He studied for one year and 00:07:36.35\00:07:37.92 after the first year, the 00:07:37.92\00:07:39.69 professor said, "We need to 00:07:39.69\00:07:42.52 have a meeting with you." 00:07:42.52\00:07:43.86 So they met. 00:07:43.86\00:07:45.13 They told him, "Andrew, you're 00:07:45.13\00:07:47.60 such a wonderful Christian and 00:07:47.60\00:07:50.03 you're a good student, but, 00:07:50.03\00:07:52.30 Andrew, you've got to know that 00:07:52.30\00:07:54.10 it will be hard for you to be a 00:07:54.10\00:07:55.40 pastor," 'cause, you know, 00:07:55.40\00:07:58.51 Michael, being a pastor is 00:07:58.51\00:07:59.87 about speaking, it's about 00:07:59.87\00:08:01.71 telling the Word, it's about 00:08:01.71\00:08:02.88 giving Bible studies, preaching. 00:08:02.88\00:08:04.75 They told him, "Maybe God wants 00:08:06.38\00:08:09.65 you to be a good church member, 00:08:09.65\00:08:12.02 maybe an elder, but it will be 00:08:12.02\00:08:13.89 hard for you to be a pastor. 00:08:13.89\00:08:16.46 If you want to continue 00:08:16.46\00:08:17.69 studying theology, you're more 00:08:17.69\00:08:18.99 than welcome, but we had to 00:08:18.99\00:08:21.60 tell you that." 00:08:21.60\00:08:22.70 Was heartbreaking for him. 00:08:24.37\00:08:26.07 He went to his room, knelt down 00:08:27.10\00:08:29.67 and prayed and said to the 00:08:29.67\00:08:31.41 Lord, "Lord, they are 00:08:31.41\00:08:33.24 absolutely right, I can't be a 00:08:33.24\00:08:36.44 pastor with the problem I have. 00:08:36.44\00:08:39.01 So, Lord, if You want me to be 00:08:39.81\00:08:42.88 a good church member, it's 00:08:42.88\00:08:44.55 okay, I will serve You with all 00:08:44.55\00:08:46.02 my heart, but if You want me to 00:08:46.02\00:08:48.92 be a pastor, You've got to do 00:08:48.92\00:08:50.79 something for me." 00:08:50.79\00:08:52.03 From that day, every time he 00:08:53.56\00:08:56.97 had to preach or give a Bible 00:08:56.97\00:08:59.73 study, he wouldn't stutter. 00:08:59.73\00:09:02.10 He would stutter in the daily 00:09:03.37\00:09:05.27 life, but never when he 00:09:05.27\00:09:07.34 preached. 00:09:07.34\00:09:07.98 And I witnessed this miracle on 00:09:08.04\00:09:10.25 that day when I was 13, but 00:09:10.25\00:09:12.01 not only on that day, many 00:09:12.01\00:09:13.65 times later. 00:09:13.65\00:09:14.88 So that's the story of Andrew. 00:09:16.35\00:09:18.12 >> So he would only stutter 00:09:18.12\00:09:20.66 when he was, like, living his 00:09:20.66\00:09:22.46 normal life, but, you know, 00:09:22.46\00:09:24.36 like, day-to-day, with his 00:09:24.36\00:09:26.16 family and with other people... 00:09:26.16\00:09:28.00 [RÉMY] Yes. 00:09:28.00\00:09:28.50 >> ...but when he stood up to 00:09:28.70\00:09:29.73 preach or when he was giving a 00:09:29.73\00:09:31.07 Bible study, no stuttering. 00:09:31.07\00:09:32.57 >> No stuttering. 00:09:32.57\00:09:33.74 >> That's incredible! 00:09:33.74\00:09:34.94 God performed a miracle for 00:09:34.94\00:09:36.57 this man. 00:09:36.57\00:09:37.47 >> Yeah, and miracle, you know, 00:09:37.47\00:09:39.71 during his whole life, I didn't 00:09:39.71\00:09:44.41 know at that time when I was 13, 00:09:44.41\00:09:46.65 it was the first time I met him. 00:09:46.65\00:09:48.42 >> Pastor Rémy, God really 00:09:49.65\00:09:51.85 performed a miracle for 00:09:51.85\00:09:53.62 that man. 00:09:53.62\00:09:54.79 >> For sure. 00:09:54.79\00:09:55.36 [RENÉ] I know what it's like 00:09:55.52\00:09:56.32 because one of my sisters 00:09:56.32\00:09:58.16 stuttered as a little child 00:09:58.16\00:10:01.90 when she was younger and there 00:10:01.90\00:10:05.20 was so much work that went into 00:10:05.20\00:10:07.24 it and yet, this man just was 00:10:07.24\00:10:11.91 healed by God, it's almost like 00:10:11.91\00:10:14.54 God touched his tongue every 00:10:14.54\00:10:16.08 time he had to speak and God 00:10:16.08\00:10:19.08 was speaking through him and so 00:10:19.08\00:10:21.88 it's just a miracle... 00:10:21.88\00:10:23.22 >> It's a miracle, I'm sure. 00:10:23.22\00:10:24.89 >> ...seeing how God worked. 00:10:24.89\00:10:26.86 >> And no other explanation. 00:10:26.86\00:10:28.22 >> So, Rémy, the sermon that 00:10:29.06\00:10:31.39 that pastor preached that day 00:10:31.39\00:10:32.93 when you were 13 years old, 00:10:32.93\00:10:34.60 tell us about the content of 00:10:34.60\00:10:35.70 that sermon. 00:10:35.70\00:10:36.53 [RÉMY] Yes, 'cause that was the 00:10:36.53\00:10:38.00 most important part. 00:10:38.00\00:10:39.63 He preached a very simple 00:10:40.70\00:10:42.27 sermon, but, you know, it was 00:10:42.27\00:10:44.31 all about Jesus, it was about 00:10:44.31\00:10:46.64 the love of Jesus, the integrity 00:10:46.64\00:10:48.74 of Jesus and His sacrifice. 00:10:48.74\00:10:52.28 And while he was speaking, I 00:10:54.05\00:10:56.85 heard, in my mind, my heart, 00:10:56.85\00:10:59.72 the voice of God telling me, 00:10:59.72\00:11:02.16 "You see this man here? 00:11:02.16\00:11:04.36 He knows Me. 00:11:04.36\00:11:05.93 He's a true Christian. 00:11:05.93\00:11:08.10 He loves Me, he serves Me. 00:11:08.10\00:11:10.37 What about you?" 00:11:10.93\00:11:12.10 It was that simple. 00:11:13.27\00:11:15.24 I heard this voice and it was a 00:11:15.24\00:11:18.91 life-changing moment. 00:11:18.91\00:11:20.24 After the-- this gathering, 00:11:21.74\00:11:24.85 went home, started praying, 00:11:24.85\00:11:28.98 reading the Bible, went to 00:11:28.98\00:11:31.02 church, and I was listening to 00:11:31.02\00:11:33.22 the sermons because previously 00:11:33.22\00:11:34.62 I was just pretending to listen. 00:11:34.62\00:11:36.36 And, yes, I believe that I 00:11:37.39\00:11:40.66 experienced what Jesus tells us 00:11:40.66\00:11:44.30 when He says that no one can 00:11:44.30\00:11:47.90 enter the kingdom of God unless 00:11:47.90\00:11:50.67 he's born again. 00:11:50.67\00:11:52.17 I was born in a Christian 00:11:52.17\00:11:54.14 family and now I was born again, 00:11:54.14\00:11:57.68 I was a Christian myself. 00:11:57.68\00:11:59.11 >> Pastor Rémy, did God take 00:11:59.95\00:12:01.75 away your desire to smoke and 00:12:01.75\00:12:04.39 to steal, too? 00:12:04.39\00:12:05.79 Did that leave you? 00:12:05.79\00:12:07.62 >> Well...yeah. 00:12:07.62\00:12:08.59 There was struggle, I must be 00:12:08.59\00:12:11.26 honest, but by God's grace, 00:12:11.26\00:12:15.33 it took a few weeks and it 00:12:15.33\00:12:17.23 was gone. 00:12:17.23\00:12:18.13 It was gone. 00:12:18.13\00:12:19.67 And so I was baptized one year 00:12:19.67\00:12:23.81 later, I was 14 when I was 00:12:23.81\00:12:25.54 baptized. 00:12:25.54\00:12:26.54 I didn't know that time I would 00:12:27.84\00:12:28.98 be a pastor, but I knew that I 00:12:28.98\00:12:31.01 wanted to serve God. 00:12:31.01\00:12:32.81 My parents were Christian, my 00:12:33.48\00:12:35.42 brother was a Christian, all 00:12:35.42\00:12:37.52 my-- the larger family, you 00:12:37.52\00:12:39.59 know, relatives, nobody was 00:12:39.59\00:12:42.69 Christian. 00:12:42.69\00:12:43.66 So I didn't want to be a pastor. 00:12:44.56\00:12:47.36 I didn't want it for two 00:12:47.36\00:12:48.50 reasons, the first reason was 00:12:48.50\00:12:50.23 that my brother said when he 00:12:50.23\00:12:52.93 was 12 that he wanted to be a 00:12:52.93\00:12:55.17 pastor. 00:12:55.17\00:12:56.17 So I didn't want do the same as 00:12:56.84\00:12:59.41 my brother, you understand that. 00:12:59.41\00:13:01.54 That's the first reason. 00:13:02.31\00:13:03.31 The second reason was that we 00:13:03.31\00:13:07.12 were the weird family, you 00:13:07.12\00:13:10.59 know, strange people among the 00:13:10.59\00:13:13.52 larger family. 00:13:13.52\00:13:14.96 So I wanted to prove them I 00:13:15.89\00:13:18.56 could be a good Christian, a 00:13:18.56\00:13:21.00 committed Christian, at the 00:13:21.00\00:13:22.53 same time have success in life, 00:13:22.53\00:13:26.20 you know, and do something like 00:13:26.20\00:13:29.40 any other man in society. 00:13:29.40\00:13:32.77 So I wanted to be a teacher, 00:13:33.51\00:13:35.68 maybe a professor or something 00:13:35.68\00:13:37.55 like that. 00:13:37.55\00:13:38.55 I liked French so I wanted to 00:13:38.95\00:13:42.18 be a French teacher and I told 00:13:42.18\00:13:45.15 my parents and I told my 00:13:45.15\00:13:46.42 brother and I told the whole 00:13:46.42\00:13:47.42 family, "I'm gonna be a French 00:13:47.42\00:13:48.79 teacher." 00:13:48.79\00:13:49.66 And I started studying to be a 00:13:50.56\00:13:53.66 French teacher, went to 00:13:53.66\00:13:55.66 university... 00:13:55.66\00:13:56.83 ...but while studying 00:13:58.37\00:14:01.14 French, there was something... 00:14:01.14\00:14:04.01 ...in my inner being that was 00:14:05.81\00:14:08.51 dry, see? 00:14:08.51\00:14:10.55 I'm not doing something 00:14:11.31\00:14:13.52 essential. 00:14:13.52\00:14:14.48 So I prayed, I said, "Lord, You 00:14:15.42\00:14:17.82 want me to do something else?" 00:14:17.82\00:14:19.32 And what I-- the answer I got 00:14:20.96\00:14:22.82 was, "I want you to serve Me 00:14:22.82\00:14:25.69 full time." 00:14:25.69\00:14:27.00 I didn't know more than that. 00:14:27.50\00:14:29.10 So I decided that I would 00:14:30.43\00:14:32.90 study theology. 00:14:32.90\00:14:34.37 When I told my parents, they 00:14:35.67\00:14:39.27 were really, really happy 00:14:39.27\00:14:42.38 with that. 00:14:42.38\00:14:43.65 I went to the university 00:14:43.65\00:14:46.28 and there, I didn't know I would 00:14:46.28\00:14:49.45 be a pastor at that time... 00:14:49.45\00:14:50.99 ...I thought maybe I would teach 00:14:52.65\00:14:56.29 theology, something like that, 00:14:56.29\00:14:58.49 but while studying, I was 00:14:58.49\00:15:00.86 convinced that God called me to 00:15:00.86\00:15:02.26 pastoral ministry. 00:15:02.26\00:15:03.50 So I became a pastor and I'm 00:15:04.33\00:15:06.57 happy to be a pastor. 00:15:06.57\00:15:09.10 >> And what about your brother? 00:15:09.10\00:15:11.17 Did he go into the ministry, 00:15:11.17\00:15:12.61 too? 00:15:12.61\00:15:13.17 [RÉMY] Yes, yes, he became a 00:15:13.34\00:15:14.18 pastor, too, yes. 00:15:14.18\00:15:15.18 We were in the same conference 00:15:15.18\00:15:16.41 for many years, yeah. 00:15:16.41\00:15:18.91 >> So, Rémy, I wanna talk about 00:15:19.45\00:15:20.68 some of the experiences you've 00:15:20.68\00:15:22.32 had in France and the ministry 00:15:22.32\00:15:24.22 here in Canada, but before we 00:15:24.22\00:15:25.75 do that, I know that music was 00:15:25.75\00:15:27.49 a big part of that and I'd like 00:15:27.49\00:15:29.36 you to share with us at least 00:15:29.36\00:15:31.59 one song. 00:15:31.59\00:15:32.53 >> I love singing with a group 00:15:33.19\00:15:35.00 and, especially right now, with 00:15:35.00\00:15:36.87 a group, the name is 00:15:36.87\00:15:38.93 "InterVocal," that's the name of 00:15:38.93\00:15:40.37 the group, and we sing, so we 00:15:40.37\00:15:42.17 sing in French, sometimes in 00:15:42.17\00:15:43.71 English and other languages, we 00:15:43.71\00:15:45.91 sing at church, we sing 00:15:45.91\00:15:47.88 everywhere so... 00:15:47.88\00:15:49.58 Yeah, let's have one song for 00:15:50.01\00:15:52.88 you or... 00:15:52.88\00:15:53.48 >> Good, let's take a look 00:15:53.48\00:15:54.08 at it. 00:15:54.08\00:15:54.95 [vocalists singing a cappella] 00:15:57.62\00:16:01.62 ¤¤ 00:16:01.62\00:18:26.80 >> Pastor Rémy, thank you so 00:18:30.04\00:18:31.67 much for sharing that beautiful 00:18:31.67\00:18:33.41 song with us. 00:18:33.41\00:18:34.71 >> You're very welcome. 00:18:34.71\00:18:35.71 [MIKE] So, Rémy, you were 00:18:36.95\00:18:38.05 telling us about how you had a 00:18:38.05\00:18:40.22 struggle to decide to go into 00:18:40.22\00:18:41.92 the ministry, you made that 00:18:41.92\00:18:43.55 decision, did you have any 00:18:43.55\00:18:45.59 special experiences while you 00:18:45.59\00:18:46.96 were a student studying. 00:18:46.96\00:18:48.82 >> Well, those years were 00:18:48.82\00:18:51.36 probably the best years of my 00:18:51.36\00:18:53.16 life except that I wasn't 00:18:53.16\00:18:54.40 married yet, but really, really 00:18:54.40\00:18:57.40 good years. 00:18:57.40\00:18:58.03 Not only theology itself, I 00:18:58.03\00:19:00.60 loved studying, but... 00:19:00.60\00:19:02.90 ...sing in a choir... 00:19:04.51\00:19:06.24 ...going door-to-door, 00:19:07.74\00:19:09.88 knocking the doors and speaking 00:19:09.88\00:19:11.61 with people, I learned a lot, I 00:19:11.61\00:19:13.55 learned a lot with this 00:19:13.55\00:19:15.05 experience. 00:19:15.05\00:19:15.85 And probably one of the most 00:19:16.28\00:19:19.22 important experiences I had at 00:19:19.22\00:19:20.99 that time was with my aunt. 00:19:20.99\00:19:22.76 I told you nobody was Christian 00:19:24.26\00:19:26.73 in my family. 00:19:26.73\00:19:28.03 Yeah, so my aunt became 00:19:28.03\00:19:30.57 involved into occult practices. 00:19:30.57\00:19:33.64 She would, for example, do what 00:19:34.47\00:19:37.71 we call "telekinesis," you 00:19:37.71\00:19:40.21 know, you just put, for 00:19:40.21\00:19:42.64 example, a glass on the table 00:19:42.64\00:19:44.61 and you focus on this glass and 00:19:44.61\00:19:47.35 with the power of your mind, 00:19:47.35\00:19:48.55 that's at least what people 00:19:48.55\00:19:50.35 believe, the power of your mind, 00:19:50.35\00:19:52.12 you make it move on the table. 00:19:52.12\00:19:54.86 And then she would be involved 00:19:55.86\00:19:57.56 in telepathy and premonition 00:19:57.56\00:20:01.33 and even what we call, I think, 00:20:02.16\00:20:04.50 "dowsing," which is, you know, 00:20:04.50\00:20:06.20 use a pendulum and with the 00:20:06.20\00:20:08.77 movements of the pendulum, you 00:20:08.77\00:20:10.87 can find an object that is lost 00:20:10.87\00:20:12.94 or person is missing. 00:20:12.94\00:20:14.81 So it was something incredible 00:20:15.48\00:20:18.35 for her and she was so happy 00:20:18.35\00:20:20.85 that she talked to us and 00:20:20.85\00:20:23.28 explained what she was doing. 00:20:23.28\00:20:24.69 And we told her, "You know, you 00:20:26.35\00:20:28.19 know what you're doing is very, 00:20:28.19\00:20:31.76 very amazing, but it's 00:20:31.76\00:20:33.29 dangerous. 00:20:33.29\00:20:34.56 You're playing with energies 00:20:34.56\00:20:36.90 that you believe you're 00:20:36.90\00:20:38.50 mastering, but... 00:20:38.50\00:20:40.50 ...you're not. 00:20:41.34\00:20:42.40 You're not controlling those 00:20:43.27\00:20:46.34 forces. 00:20:46.34\00:20:47.44 At some point they will 00:20:47.44\00:20:48.74 control you." 00:20:48.74\00:20:49.94 So it went for a few years and 00:20:51.15\00:20:55.72 one point I remember, that's a 00:20:55.72\00:20:58.39 vivid memory in my brain... 00:20:58.39\00:21:01.29 ...one night the phone rang. 00:21:03.12\00:21:04.79 My dad picked up the phone and 00:21:06.96\00:21:09.53 it was my aunt. 00:21:09.53\00:21:10.63 And she almost screamed in the 00:21:11.77\00:21:13.90 phone, "I can see him! 00:21:13.90\00:21:16.57 He's here! 00:21:16.57\00:21:17.77 I see him, he's looking at me!" 00:21:18.44\00:21:20.34 [ominous music playing] 00:21:20.34\00:21:22.08 So we understood that there was 00:21:22.08\00:21:23.98 something with the demons 00:21:23.98\00:21:26.41 that was happening. 00:21:26.41\00:21:28.52 So I remember I begin to pray 00:21:28.52\00:21:31.45 and my dad talked to her, "Tell 00:21:31.45\00:21:33.49 me, what are you seeing? 00:21:33.49\00:21:35.59 Who's in your room?" 00:21:36.49\00:21:38.33 And she said that she saw, 00:21:38.33\00:21:40.53 like, an ugly face... 00:21:40.53\00:21:42.63 ...looking at her. 00:21:44.20\00:21:45.53 So we prayed. 00:21:46.74\00:21:48.20 We prayed for at least ten 00:21:48.20\00:21:49.44 minutes. 00:21:49.44\00:21:50.64 And after ten minutes 00:21:51.67\00:21:52.64 she said, "Okay, now I am 00:21:52.64\00:21:55.34 relieved, he disappeared." 00:21:55.34\00:21:56.95 So she was scared, she was 00:21:58.68\00:21:59.95 terrified and she decided that 00:21:59.95\00:22:02.62 she would stop practising those 00:22:02.62\00:22:05.02 things for a few months. 00:22:05.02\00:22:08.36 But the Devil is clever. 00:22:09.72\00:22:11.86 So for one year she had no 00:22:12.76\00:22:15.36 problem, no strange phenomenons, 00:22:15.36\00:22:18.13 so after one year she said, 00:22:18.13\00:22:20.80 "Oh, I'll try again, I'm fine." 00:22:20.80\00:22:23.81 She tried again and she had 00:22:24.71\00:22:28.44 a lot of other experiences 00:22:28.44\00:22:30.08 like that. 00:22:30.08\00:22:31.08 The good news is that 20 years 00:22:33.28\00:22:36.82 later, my aunt called us again 00:22:36.82\00:22:41.26 and said, "I'm not happy, I 00:22:41.26\00:22:44.73 don't want to continue with 00:22:44.73\00:22:46.83 those practises, I want to know 00:22:46.83\00:22:50.90 God, I want to study the Bible." 00:22:50.90\00:22:53.57 We had prayed for her for 00:22:54.20\00:22:55.60 20 years... 00:22:55.60\00:22:56.64 ...and finally God could 00:22:58.47\00:23:02.34 just touch her and she studied 00:23:02.34\00:23:05.65 the Bible. 00:23:05.65\00:23:06.65 I must say that she started 00:23:06.65\00:23:09.52 studying the Bible on the phone 00:23:09.52\00:23:11.05 'cause we're not living in the 00:23:11.05\00:23:12.12 same region, on the phone... 00:23:12.12\00:23:14.09 ...and we had Bible study almost 00:23:15.56\00:23:18.89 every week. 00:23:18.89\00:23:19.89 But during those Bible studies, 00:23:21.80\00:23:24.23 we experienced some strange 00:23:24.23\00:23:26.53 phenomena. 00:23:26.53\00:23:27.54 Like, for example, during a 00:23:28.14\00:23:29.74 Bible study we'd hear "Pom! 00:23:29.74\00:23:31.87 Pom! Pom!" 00:23:31.87\00:23:33.17 So we would ask her, "What's 00:23:34.24\00:23:36.04 happening?" and she said, "Oh, 00:23:36.04\00:23:39.18 have you heard that?" 00:23:39.18\00:23:40.55 "Of course we've heard." 00:23:40.55\00:23:41.75 "Oh, you know, the enemy is 00:23:41.75\00:23:43.62 not-- is angry at me." 00:23:43.62\00:23:45.85 And there was a plate on the 00:23:45.85\00:23:47.72 table, it flew through the room 00:23:47.72\00:23:51.33 and crashed against the wall. 00:23:51.33\00:23:54.13 It happened several times. 00:23:55.06\00:23:57.17 Would hear-- in the phone we 00:23:57.17\00:23:59.43 would hear, like, a laugh, 00:23:59.43\00:24:02.07 sarcastic laugh, you know, and 00:24:02.07\00:24:05.21 we knew that it was the Devil. 00:24:05.21\00:24:07.01 But my aunt continued, she kept 00:24:07.01\00:24:11.01 on praying, studying the Bible, 00:24:11.01\00:24:14.28 and finally a year later she 00:24:14.28\00:24:15.78 was baptized. 00:24:15.78\00:24:17.15 It was a tremendous victory. 00:24:17.15\00:24:18.82 >> So while you were doing 00:24:19.22\00:24:20.26 those studies, you were 00:24:20.26\00:24:21.66 mentioning that this strange 00:24:21.66\00:24:23.46 phenomena was going on and it's 00:24:23.46\00:24:26.46 amazing because God must have 00:24:26.46\00:24:29.00 been protecting her because did 00:24:29.00\00:24:30.83 any of those flying objects 00:24:30.83\00:24:32.90 ever hit her or hurt her? 00:24:32.90\00:24:34.37 >> Never, never, never. 00:24:34.37\00:24:35.47 She was protected. 00:24:35.47\00:24:36.94 You're absolutely right, 00:24:36.94\00:24:38.54 absolutely right. 00:24:38.54\00:24:39.54 >> Rémy, I'm really enjoying 00:24:40.11\00:24:41.34 our time together and we're 00:24:41.34\00:24:42.98 going to have to have you back 00:24:42.98\00:24:44.81 again next week. 00:24:44.81\00:24:45.85 I hope that's okay. 00:24:45.85\00:24:46.85 >> It's good for me! 00:24:46.85\00:24:47.72 [MIKE] Good! 00:24:47.72\00:24:48.48 One last question, tell us a 00:24:48.48\00:24:50.69 little bit about your ministry 00:24:50.69\00:24:51.99 in France and we can continue 00:24:51.99\00:24:53.22 that again next week as well. 00:24:53.22\00:24:54.79 >> Well, in France I was a 00:24:54.79\00:24:56.16 pastor for almost 14 years, 00:24:56.16\00:24:58.93 worked a lot with the youth and 00:24:59.69\00:25:02.36 especially during-- I love the 00:25:02.36\00:25:05.10 summer camps, we had special 00:25:05.10\00:25:07.34 experiences with the young 00:25:07.34\00:25:09.50 people there, evangelism, it 00:25:09.50\00:25:12.67 was a really good experience. 00:25:12.67\00:25:15.14 I would say that, for me, the 00:25:15.74\00:25:17.48 most rewarding activity was 00:25:17.48\00:25:21.52 giving Bible studies, I really 00:25:21.52\00:25:23.25 liked it and I still really 00:25:23.25\00:25:24.79 like it. 00:25:24.79\00:25:25.75 >> Do you have a favourite 00:25:25.75\00:25:26.62 Bible verse before we close? 00:25:26.62\00:25:28.89 >> Yes, yes, I'd like to share 00:25:28.89\00:25:30.79 with you from the book of... 00:25:30.79\00:25:33.73 ...Isaiah... 00:25:34.83\00:25:35.86 ...chapter 26... 00:25:38.20\00:25:39.63 ...and verse 3... 00:25:40.97\00:25:43.30 ...and 4. 00:25:44.67\00:25:45.67 >> That's a beautiful Bible 00:26:03.22\00:26:04.99 verse. 00:26:04.99\00:26:05.63 So, Rémy, we have come to the 00:26:05.69\00:26:07.66 end of our program and so I 00:26:07.66\00:26:09.56 wonder if you could please pray 00:26:09.56\00:26:11.53 for our viewers. 00:26:11.53\00:26:12.87 There might be some viewers who 00:26:13.37\00:26:15.77 need to find that perfect peace 00:26:15.77\00:26:19.31 from God, there might be 00:26:19.31\00:26:20.71 someone who's struggling to be 00:26:20.71\00:26:22.74 their authentic self and 00:26:22.74\00:26:24.81 someone who might be struggling 00:26:24.81\00:26:26.58 to believe in God, so I wonder 00:26:26.58\00:26:28.88 if you could please pray for 00:26:28.88\00:26:30.69 them right now. 00:26:30.69\00:26:31.79 >> Absolutely. 00:26:31.79\00:26:32.69 Heavenly Father, I thank You 00:26:34.16\00:26:35.59 for the opportunity You give me 00:26:35.59\00:26:37.83 today to share a few 00:26:37.83\00:26:39.96 experiences with Michael and 00:26:39.96\00:26:42.46 René and all our viewers. 00:26:42.46\00:26:44.97 Please be with every one of 00:26:44.97\00:26:47.57 them and if someone is just 00:26:47.57\00:26:52.14 struggling to find this peace 00:26:52.14\00:26:55.54 that You promise us, someone is 00:26:55.54\00:26:57.71 doubting that You're really a 00:26:57.71\00:26:59.61 God that cares, please reveal 00:26:59.61\00:27:02.62 Yourself to this person. 00:27:02.62\00:27:04.32 Be with us as we want to serve 00:27:05.45\00:27:08.89 You and to love You even more 00:27:08.89\00:27:11.49 every day. 00:27:11.49\00:27:12.49 >> Amen. 00:27:12.89\00:27:13.56 Thank you so much, Rémy, and we 00:27:13.56\00:27:17.07 look forward to being with you 00:27:17.07\00:27:18.47 again next week. 00:27:18.47\00:27:20.00 >> Will be my pleasure. 00:27:20.00\00:27:21.14 >> Friends, you, too, can 00:27:23.27\00:27:24.84 experience the kind of 00:27:24.84\00:27:26.51 transformation that only God's 00:27:26.51\00:27:28.88 Word offers. 00:27:28.88\00:27:30.31 Our free offer today is our 00:27:30.85\00:27:33.18 Bible Study Guides. 00:27:33.18\00:27:34.78 >> Whether you want to learn 00:27:34.78\00:27:35.85 the major teachings of God's 00:27:35.85\00:27:36.99 Word or Bible prophecy, we can 00:27:36.99\00:27:38.89 assist you to find the answers 00:27:38.89\00:27:41.72 for how to face the issues and 00:27:41.72\00:27:43.59 challenges that you may be 00:27:43.59\00:27:45.26 dealing with right now. 00:27:45.26\00:27:46.86 >> Before you go, we would also 00:27:48.16\00:27:50.03 like to invite you to follow us 00:27:50.03\00:27:51.80 on Instagram and Facebook 00:27:51.80\00:27:54.64 and subscribe to our YouTube 00:27:54.64\00:27:56.50 channel and also listen to our 00:27:56.50\00:27:59.07 Podcasts. 00:27:59.07\00:28:00.64 And if you go to our website, 00:28:00.64\00:28:02.78 you can see our latest 00:28:02.78\00:28:04.28 programs. 00:28:04.28\00:28:05.58 >> You, too, can experience the 00:28:05.58\00:28:07.32 fullness of life that is found 00:28:07.32\00:28:08.98 in the words of Jesus when He 00:28:08.98\00:28:10.72 said, "It is written, 'Man shall 00:28:10.72\00:28:12.95 not live by bread alone, but by 00:28:12.95\00:28:15.36 every word that proceeds out of 00:28:15.36\00:28:17.26 the mouth of God.'" 00:28:17.26\00:28:18.93 ¤¤ 00:28:19.49\00:28:34.48