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>> Welcome to It Is Written
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Canada.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Our special guest is Ernst
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Breitkreuz who called me one
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day and shared his story of how
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he saw God lead him through
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many happy years from childhood
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to his married life with
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children and grandchildren.
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But then he faced an inner pain
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and a depth of grief that he
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could never have imagined.
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>> Ernst will share with us
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today how he managed to face
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those trials.
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Ernst, welcome to It Is Written
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Canada.
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>> Thank you so much, Mike and
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René, for having me.
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I've been looking forward to
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this day and, by the way, just
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call me Ernie.
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>> So, Ernie, you are from
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Sicamous, BC, beautiful place,
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but you weren't always there.
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Tell us of where you come from
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and about your family.
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>> Oh, certainly.
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We're an immigrant family.
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We came from Germany in 1949
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after the Second World War, my
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older siblings were all born in
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Germany and I was born three
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years later.
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Somewhat in the middle of the
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pack I have five older siblings
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and four younger and it was a
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bit of a struggle growing up at
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times, getting into the English
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language, but we worked at it
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and progressed in it and after
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a number of years we became
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fluent and efficient and it
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worked well for us.
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And I grew up very much a
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Canadian, but in a German
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culture, so to say, because we
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spoke German at home, we ate
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German, we dressed German, and
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we had German haircuts.
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But it was great, we did learn
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to fit in.
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It was good.
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>> So tell us about meeting
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your wife, Darcy.
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>> I kind of always knew about
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her because of her coming back
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forth to Saskatchewan and her
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family, but I specifically
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recall this one summer she was
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back and she was 16 and we were
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at a youth function at the
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church and I was reintroduced
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to her and I remember thinking,
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"Hey, hey, hey!"
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But we just spent time together
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and just hung out and just
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enjoyed each other's company.
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And then after high school, she
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decided to go to Bible college
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in Saskatchewan for a couple of
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years and during her time at
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Bible college, I would go and
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visit her on the weekends that
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I could and we fell in love
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when she was in Bible college
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and we knew that we wanted to
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spend our time together.
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And so after she finished Bible
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college, she wanted to go back
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to BC to do her nurses training
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and she did, so that was a
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corporate decision we made that
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we would do a long-distance
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relationship.
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After that, we were married in
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1975 in a little place called
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Springside, Saskatchewan and
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she made me the happiest man on
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earth at that time.
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And together we have three
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children, a daughter and two
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sons and right now I have five
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grandchildren, three boys and
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an adorable little girl.
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[MIKE] That is so wonderful.
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Now those were happy years, the
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last six and a half haven't
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been the happiest years
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for you.
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>> Oh, that's so true, Mike,
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yeah, the last-- it's coming on
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to just about seven years now,
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but yeah, it's been a difficult
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journey, a difficult season
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for me.
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In the summer of 2013, my wife
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became ill and that would start
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a circuit of medical things
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from doctors, from clinics to--
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we started out in Salmon Arm
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and Vernon and Kelowna and
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Vancouver and that was a very
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difficult time and all to no
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avail.
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And in June of 2014, June 29,
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to be exact, in 2014, my wife
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passed away.
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That was tough.
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We would have been married 39
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years that August.
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And after she passed, I just
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had a very difficult time, even
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with my faith.
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And I can't say that, today, I
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don't know if I would say that
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I was angry with God, but I was
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certainly frustrated and
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disappointed and had a lot of
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questions and I started the
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next three years after that, I
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just started doing a lot of arm
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wrestling with God about the--
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what went wrong.
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What did I do wrong, what did
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she do wrong, what did we do
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wrong together, what could we
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have done differently?
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And so I'd ask God a lot of
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questions.
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It probably took me eight
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months before I could really
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even pick up my Bible again and
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get back into
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Bible-reading and--
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[MIKE] Very painful time.
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[ERNIE] It was a very, very
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difficult season for us, for me.
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Very hard journey to go
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through.
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But, just allow me to say this,
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my children were amazing to me
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through that time, helping me,
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and I gotta just say, my
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children, I am so blessed, they
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are-- I have three children, I
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mentioned earlier, they're all
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walking with the Lord, they
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have wonderful, Godly partners,
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and they were beside me,
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walking through that journey
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with me.
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>> That's really encouraging
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because I could only imagine
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how painful and how lonely you
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must have been without Darcy
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because you obviously loved her
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dearly and-- but at least you
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had-- you were blessed with
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three children and those
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children were able to carry you
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through that painful time and
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so they were probably a reason
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why you could still move
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forward even if it was very
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painful.
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>> Oh, absolutely, yeah, it's--
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I mean, I could go into story
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after story about how my
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children-- and I always felt
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that I was-- I ran my own
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business, I was a leader, I
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was-- I pushed forward and all
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of a sudden one day, I was
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leaning on my children.
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And I remember the incident,
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the day after my wife passed
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and we were driving to Salmon
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Arm and we had to make some
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arrangements at the funeral
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home and my son was driving.
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I looked over to him and I
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said, "Ross," I said, "Did Mom
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pass away? Did Mom die?"
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And he looked at me, he says,
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"She did, Dad."
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And it was-- just there's so
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much surreal stuff that you
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can't hardly wrap your mind
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around all of those things.
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[MIKE] Hard to believe.
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And so that was the most
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painful thing for you and then
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four years later, you had
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another tragedy that happened
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in your life.
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>> Oh, this one just about--
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yeah.
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It was a very difficult time,
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just about put me over the
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edge.
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I've got some toys, I've got
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these things called a
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side-by-side, it's a recreation
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vehicle and we take it up the
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mountain.
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Anyways, my grandson, Joshua,
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who came with me and we had
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decided that we were gonna take
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this machine up the mountain
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for the last time of the
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season, it was just to the end
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of September to beginning of
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October, and so we put it on
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the trailer and we trailered to
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the foot of the mountain which
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is probably only six minutes
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from the house.
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We started up the mountain and
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we got to probably about the 26
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kilometre range and we
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decided-- it was starting to
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get later in the afternoon and
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I said, "We need to get back
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before it gets dark," and so we
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started turning around in the
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middle of the road and he was
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driving and he took a sharp
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turn and over-accelerated and
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the machine came around, and as
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the back end of the machine
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came around, it caught a rut
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and it started flipping toward
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my side and I had a split
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second decision to make: either
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I will jump from the machine or
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I will stay with the machine
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and perhaps have it roll over
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top of me and crush me.
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So I jumped and I cleared the
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machine, but my right foot
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stayed behind and it-- the
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machine landed on my right leg,
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came to rest on my right foot.
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>> What about Joshua?
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Like, you were able to jump
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out, but you mentioned your
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right foot got stuck, so what
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hap-- what was Josh's reaction?
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>> Well, the blessing of it
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was, for him, he was driving
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and he had a belt on and he was
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buckled in, and the blessing
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for me was that I wasn't
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buckled in.
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Had I been buckled in, the
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machine would have landed on
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top of me, but I wasn't and
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that allowed me to clear the
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machine when it started
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rolling over.
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>> So you look down and you see
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that your leg is pinned
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underneath this machine.
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What were your thoughts?
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>> Yeah, that was hard when the
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machine came to rest and I
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noticed, well I knew it had
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landed on my foot because the
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pain was so excruciating.
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I felt like I was gonna faint,
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but I'd gotten myself together
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and then I noticed that-- I saw
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the stream of blood coming out
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from underneath the machine
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'cause I was bleeding so bad
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and I thought, "OK, I'm in
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serious trouble here."
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>> So Joshua, what did he do?
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He saw this happen,
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but he was safe.
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[ERNIE] Josh was fine, nothing
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happened to him, but he went
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hysterical, he started
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screaming and turning circles
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and apologizing, "Opa, I'm
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sorry," and then he said he was
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gonna run down the road to get
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help and we were 26 kilometres
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up the mountain and I thought,
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"Oh my goodness, if he runs
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away on me, I will not make it
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down this mountain alive
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today," so I screamed is all I
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had, finally got his attention
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to bring it back and he came
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back and then he was able to
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take instructions.
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And I said, "Josh, you need to
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lift this machine to get my
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foot out from underneath of it
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so I can see," and so he was
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able to lift it and I got my
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leg out from underneath the
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machine and I could see that I
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was in serious trouble.
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And I said to Josh, I says,
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"Josh, somehow, we need to be
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able to get this machine
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upright because if we don't,
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Opa's gonna die on this
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mountain today."
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So he started lifting it and I
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can't tell you folks, I didn't
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see any angels, but there's no
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possible way that he could have
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lifted that machine.
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He started lifting and I slid
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myself closer to the machine
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and I was pushing on the side
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of the machine, he was lifting,
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and we got that machine
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uprighted and it was just, it
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was a miracle that we even got
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that thing uprighted.
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>> And then you got it going?
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>> We did, yeah, we did.
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And that was another thing to
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get that thing started.
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That was my next concern and I
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was bleeding quite bad.
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But I had taken industrial
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first-aid course many years
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before that and when the
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accident happened, it'd be
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surprising how quickly some of
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that came back and I knew what
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to do and I said to Josh, I
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says, "Josh, you need to help
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me into this vehicle."
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So he got me into the
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vehicle and I was able to tie
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it off to some degree and then
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I took my elbow and I brought
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my knee up into my elbow and I
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just pulled it into my chest
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and then with my dangling foot,
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with my left hand, I held my
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dangling foot and I said to
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Josh, I says, "Josh, throw all
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the supplies on the back," so
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he threw the supplies on the
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back of the vehicle and then I
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remember saying, "Lord, if
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there's ever an angel moment,
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let this be one," because if
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that machine didn't start, I'm
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still in trouble.
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And he turned that key and I
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think that thing turned over
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twice and it was running and I
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really thought for the first
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time, I thought, "You know
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what, I just might make it down
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this hill alive today."
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>> And so then, so now you got
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the machine started and you're
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starting to go down, so did
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you-- were you able to get
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help?
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Like, how did you get help?
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How did you call 911, like...
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>> We were out of cell range,
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there was no cell service and
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so I said to Josh at the time,
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I said, "Josh, on the straight
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stretch, you've gotta put this
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thing to the floor because
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Opa's in trouble and slow down
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on the corners, otherwise if we
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roll this thing again,
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that's it."
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So we got down to about the 16
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kilometre range and we finally
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got cell service and we stopped
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and called 911 and explained to
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them what had happened and that
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I would need help because I was
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losing a lot of blood and that
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we needed an ambulance at the
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foot of the mountain.
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And I remember as I was talking
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to them, I was starting to feel
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faint and I thought, "Oh no,
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here I go."
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And so I quickly summoned Josh,
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I said, "Josh, get some water
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quickly," so he grabbed me a
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bottle of water and I took a
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couple sips, I poured the rest
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over my head and on myself and
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it actually rallied me enough
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that we were able to make it
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down.
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And as we got to the foot of
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the mountain, sure enough the
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ambulance was waiting for me
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and the attendants, they--
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and by the time I got there, I
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was trembling, I went-- I had
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gone into shock and the
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paramedics, those people are
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fabulous, and they threw some
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blankets on me and they
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stabilized my leg and I didn't
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know at the time, but the
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paramedic helicopter was
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waiting on the ball diamond
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because it couldn't land, it
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was too many trees there, and
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so they got me off to the
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helicopter and got me into
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Kamloops.
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[MIKE] So you got to Kamloops
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and when you finally came to,
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what was the news?
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>> Well, I don't remember, I
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don't recall any of the trip
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going to Kamloops, I don't
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recall any of that, I don't
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recall getting out of the-- the
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only thing I remember is being
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woken up in the hospital at
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Kamloops and the paramedic was
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standing over me and he said,
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"Just wanna let you know,
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you're in Kamloops, you're in
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the hospital, you'll be fine,
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we had to give you some blood
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products in flight because your
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vital signs had started to go
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down," 'cause I'd lost so much
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blood, and then the doctor was
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standing there and he said,
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"I've already had a look at
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your foot and we should
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probably amputate your foot."
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And I said, "Oh, Doc,
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please..."
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And I begged him, and then he
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said, "OK," he says, "that's
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fine," he said, "We'll do what
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we can."
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I went into surgery and it was
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probably about a three-hour
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surgery and they tried to save
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the leg, they stabilized it and
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they pinned it and clamped it
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and did everything trying to
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save the foot.
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>> And eventually, did you end
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up losing the foot?
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>> I did, yeah.
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They tried desperately over the
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next three days, I had two
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major surgeries, probably spent
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ten hours or more on trying to
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save the foot and after the
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second surgery, the doctors
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came in and we had several
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meetings back and forth, and I
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can't say enough about the
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team of doctors that I had,
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they were fabulous, but after
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the second surgery, and
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probably had spent ten, twelve
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hours on surgeries at the time
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and he came back in and he
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said, "Ernie, you're not gonna
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walk on that anymore.
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That foot, we did what we
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could, but that foot's not
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gonna function for you
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anymore."
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And so we made a collective
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decision that it was the time
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to take the foot and so my boys
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were there and we...
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...had a cry...
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...and October the 7th of 2018 I
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went into surgery that morning
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and I had my foot amputated 8
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inches below my knee.
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>> So how did you feel going
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through all of that now?
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>> I started to go down a very,
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very dark path and Satan was
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playing tricks in my mind and
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saying, "Oh, you know that when
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you leave here, you're not
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going to be walking like you
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think you're walking.
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You're gonna need a lot of
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help, you're gonna be dependent
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on your children, you're gonna
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wind up in a home, there's just
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so many things..."
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And at the beginning, I started
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to argue with myself, then
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after a while, I thought, "You
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know, that's right."
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When you're sitting in a
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hospital and you have a limb
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that looks twice as big as a
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normal limb if not more and
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you're in agony, you can't see
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yourself pushing a lawn mower
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anymore.
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And after a while it's, "Well,
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that's right," and then Satan
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starts to say, "Wait, you know
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your best option would be
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probably to commit suicide."
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>> How did you get over that?
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You were suicidal at that
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point, you were thinking
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seriously about it.
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>> That was a difficult time,
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but when you're going down that
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path and you're going down that
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tunnel, I recall the one time,
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and my kids had gone home
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already, Adam had gone back to
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Sicamous, Ross had left, my
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daughter was in Kelowna, and it
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was an evening that I was
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feeling very low and I thought
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to myself, "You know what, I
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know my kids are gone, my chart
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has no visitations on it and
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it's after visiting hours,
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nobody's coming," and I had
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resigned myself to the fact
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that I'm gonna, "Tonight, I'm
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gonna make a concrete plan,
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when I leave is this is how I'm
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gonna carry out my suicide."
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And I was sitting on the edge
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of my bed and I was so deep in
00:19:00.54\00:19:03.57
thought, I was staring at the
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floor and I tell you, I was
00:19:05.44\00:19:07.44
just going down that tunnel.
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And all of a sudden, I noticed,
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like, a shadow coming into the
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room and I looked up and it was
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Pastor Ben, our senior pastor
00:19:16.35\00:19:18.62
from the church in Salmon Arm
00:19:18.62\00:19:20.69
and I looked at him and I says,
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"Ben! How did you get in here?"
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And he said, "Well, I just
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asked for information, they
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told me on the fourth floor and
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I came and they told me what--"
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I said, "Ben, you're not
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supposed to be here."
00:19:36.34\00:19:38.21
And he says, "Well, Ernie,
00:19:38.21\00:19:39.64
don't you want me?"
00:19:39.64\00:19:41.24
I says, "No, no, no, Ben," and
00:19:41.24\00:19:43.28
he had a little bag in his hand
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and I fell apart, I just, I
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couldn't hold back the tears
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and I started weeping and
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apologizing.
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And Ben said, "It's OK, it's
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OK," and he pulled up a chair
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and he sat down in front of me
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and he started visiting and if
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I had to tell you today a
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sentence of what he said, I
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couldn't even begin to tell you.
00:20:06.43\00:20:09.67
But he was there for 45 minutes
00:20:09.67\00:20:12.81
to an hour visiting with me and
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before he left, he opened up
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the bag and he says, "Ernie,
00:20:18.61\00:20:20.48
would it be OK if I had
00:20:20.48\00:20:21.95
communion with you?"
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And I said, "Of course it
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would!"
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So we had a wonderful time of
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communion and sharing and he
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prayed with me and he left.
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And after he left, I pulled
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myself back onto my bed and I
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thought, "What was that all
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about?" like, "What just
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happened?"
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And I pondered the time that he
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prayed and it just brought me
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out of a path that I was going
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down so deeply and, you know,
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there's one thing that I often
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said and then I-- tears came
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down my face again because I'm
00:21:00.96\00:21:03.53
sure you've heard it in your
00:21:03.53\00:21:05.06
time of ministry, "God is never
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late, He's never early, and
00:21:07.03\00:21:08.73
He's always on time."
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And at the very time when I
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needed somebody most and
00:21:13.50\00:21:15.64
against the things that Ben
00:21:15.64\00:21:18.14
wasn't supposed to get, he went
00:21:18.14\00:21:20.31
through two check points, the
00:21:20.31\00:21:21.98
visit, it was past visiting
00:21:21.98\00:21:23.45
hours, and he got up to my room
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and it was just a miracle and I
00:21:25.75\00:21:27.88
realized then that God had sent
00:21:27.88\00:21:30.19
Ben at that exact time that I
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needed him most to pull me out
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of that tunnel that I was going
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down so deeply.
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>> Ernie, now you wanted to go
00:21:39.33\00:21:41.63
forward, God had given you a
00:21:41.63\00:21:44.33
sign that he wanted you to live
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and you were encouraged.
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Then you went into rehab.
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What was that like?
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>> Once I got onto the rehab
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floor, I was there probably
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about two or three days and the
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prosthesis came in and he was
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gonna start to fit me for a leg
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and so they did, they got me in
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and did measurements and they
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started fitting me for a
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prosthetic foot.
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>> Ernie, could we take a look
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at it?
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>> Absolutely, I could show you
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my bionic foot, my bionic leg
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right here.
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That's what it looks like.
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[MIKE] That is amazing!
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[RENÉ] And it fits in your-- so
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your bionic foot fits into the
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shoe.
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[ERNIE] It does.
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It's a bit of a chore to put it
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in because there's no wiggle
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from the toes or the heel, but
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with a shoe horn, everything
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works really quite well.
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>> So tell us now how your life
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changed after you got your
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prosthetic foot.
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>> I gotta tell you, God has
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been good and God has been
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faithful and I have come a long
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ways down the journey of grief
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and the journey with my foot
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and I accomplish things that I
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never thought I would be able
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to accomplish that I have today.
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When you're in the hospital and
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you're missing one foot, you
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don't see yourself being so far
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down the road as where I am
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today and I just thank God for
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that every day.
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And I need to say again, I'm so
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thankful for my family 'cause
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my children have helped me a
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lot through this process as
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well, yep.
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>> So in closing, do you have
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any thoughts for our viewers
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about going through trials?
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Has that helped you in your
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relationship with God?
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>> I-- there's one thing that
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pops out in my mind and I often
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come back to that.
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A year after I had my accident,
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I was in Kelowna and just
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walking through the park with
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my family and there was a group
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of people walking in front of
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us and there was a fellow and I
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don't know what he was
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advertising, but he had this
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shirt, on the back of his
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t-shirt, it said...
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That stopped me in my tracks
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and I thought of that and I
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thought of that and I thought,
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"What can possibly-- a lot."
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My accident probably took two
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and half, two to three seconds
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and it's changed my earthly
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life forever.
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When those four seconds in your
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lifetime comes, be ready so you
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don't have to be afraid.
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The Bible tells us in
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John 3:16...
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And I knew that that day, I'm a
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believer and I wasn't afraid.
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>> And, you know, it reminds me
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of that Bible text in Romans 8,
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is it Romans 8:28?
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And I can just imagine, you
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mentioned that you have
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grandchildren and so they
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probably think that you are the
00:24:54.66\00:24:56.26
coolest opa out there with your
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bionic foot and so you've
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probably been such an
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inspiration to others, just
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like your story today has been
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so inspirational to us and so
00:25:05.40\00:25:09.17
your grandkids must-- you've
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just been a shining light for
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them, Ernie, and it's so
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wonderful.
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>> I do get that from my kids
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and a lot of times from my
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grandkids, especially, when
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they bring friends over and I
00:25:21.92\00:25:23.72
had that happen just not so
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long ago, one of the younger
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kids, and he brought a friend
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over and he says, "You've gotta
00:25:28.12\00:25:29.42
come and see my opa's leg!"
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So they bring their friends
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over to have--
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And it's fine, it's not
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embarrassing, I got what I got
00:25:35.60\00:25:37.90
and God has been good and I
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have no problem showing the
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kids and it's an education
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for them.
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>> Ernie, before we end, I
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wonder if you could have a word
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of prayer for us.
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>> I would like that,
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absolutely love to do that for
00:25:51.55\00:25:53.18
you, for sure.
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Father in Heaven, we give You
00:25:54.95\00:25:56.12
thanks again for Your many,
00:25:56.12\00:25:57.65
many blessings and, Lord, thank
00:25:57.65\00:25:59.75
You for this opportunity to
00:25:59.75\00:26:01.12
share and for the ministry with
00:26:01.12\00:26:02.92
Mike and René, and, Father,
00:26:02.92\00:26:05.26
that this ministry would go
00:26:05.26\00:26:06.86
forward and people would hear
00:26:06.86\00:26:08.43
the good news of Jesus Christ
00:26:08.43\00:26:10.17
and, Lord, today, if there's
00:26:10.17\00:26:12.20
anybody that is listening this
00:26:12.20\00:26:14.64
program and if they are in a
00:26:14.64\00:26:16.67
dark spot in their lives, just
00:26:16.67\00:26:18.84
know that God loves you and God
00:26:18.84\00:26:20.74
is there for you.
00:26:20.74\00:26:22.61
And, Father, I just pray that
00:26:22.61\00:26:24.21
You'd continue to reach into
00:26:24.21\00:26:25.65
the lives of the people and
00:26:25.65\00:26:27.15
wherever this ministries goes,
00:26:27.15\00:26:28.48
that Your word would go forward
00:26:28.48\00:26:30.05
and, Lord, I pray today that as
00:26:30.05\00:26:32.25
we walk this earth, that we
00:26:32.25\00:26:34.46
would be a light for You and,
00:26:34.46\00:26:36.39
Father, that we would seize
00:26:36.39\00:26:37.83
every opportunity to share the
00:26:37.83\00:26:39.63
good news of Jesus Christ.
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Thank You again for this
00:26:41.40\00:26:42.63
ministry, amen.
00:26:42.63\00:26:44.17
>> Amen.
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>> Ernie, you have been an
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inspiration and so I thank you
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>> Thank you so much for having
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