>> Welcome to It Is Written 00:00:47.58\00:00:48.81 Canada. 00:00:48.81\00:00:49.41 Thank you for joining us. 00:00:49.41\00:00:50.81 Our special guest on It Is 00:00:50.81\00:00:52.75 Written Canada today is Jerry 00:00:52.75\00:00:54.45 Shiel who we spoke with last 00:00:54.45\00:00:57.19 week and this is part two. 00:00:57.19\00:00:59.29 He was telling us about how he 00:00:59.29\00:01:00.96 grew up on the streets from 00:01:00.96\00:01:02.96 the age of 16 and then ended 00:01:02.96\00:01:04.86 up getting in trouble with the 00:01:04.86\00:01:06.36 law because of drugs and 00:01:06.36\00:01:07.96 violence and was in and out 00:01:07.96\00:01:09.93 of jail. 00:01:09.93\00:01:11.07 >> But then Jerry hit it big 00:01:11.07\00:01:13.00 time working as a model in Los 00:01:13.00\00:01:15.47 Angeles and Dallas until God 00:01:15.47\00:01:18.71 showed up while Jerry was 00:01:18.71\00:01:20.88 sitting at a river in Dallas, 00:01:20.88\00:01:22.58 Texas. 00:01:22.58\00:01:23.81 Jerry, thank you so much for 00:01:23.81\00:01:25.35 joining us again on It Is 00:01:25.35\00:01:27.18 Written Canada. 00:01:27.18\00:01:28.68 >> Thank you, Mike and René, 00:01:28.68\00:01:29.95 it's a pleasure. 00:01:29.95\00:01:31.42 >> So, Jerry, take us back to 00:01:31.42\00:01:33.05 that river experience that you 00:01:33.05\00:01:34.76 had where God was obviously 00:01:34.76\00:01:37.76 speaking to you, gave you an 00:01:37.76\00:01:39.26 experience there, but then you 00:01:39.26\00:01:40.96 prayed for a sign that He 00:01:40.96\00:01:43.06 would either leave you where 00:01:43.06\00:01:44.93 you were in the modelling 00:01:44.93\00:01:46.20 industry or take you 00:01:46.20\00:01:47.17 somewhere else. 00:01:47.17\00:01:48.44 >> Yes, I was early for an 00:01:48.44\00:01:50.07 appointment with an 00:01:50.07\00:01:51.27 advertising agency and there 00:01:51.27\00:01:52.81 was a river and I just was 00:01:52.81\00:01:54.28 spending some time in there, 00:01:54.28\00:01:55.94 just hurting, and I had a 00:01:55.94\00:01:58.01 spiritual moment, well, longer 00:01:58.01\00:02:00.98 than a moment, but I surrendered 00:02:00.98\00:02:04.95 to the Lord there and it was 00:02:04.95\00:02:07.76 such a beautiful experience. 00:02:07.76\00:02:10.23 And then I was wondering what 00:02:10.23\00:02:13.46 should I be doing. 00:02:13.46\00:02:15.03 Should I be staying in that 00:02:15.03\00:02:16.70 industry or going back to 00:02:16.70\00:02:18.87 Canada and that-- I was 00:02:18.87\00:02:21.20 praying for a sign and the 00:02:21.20\00:02:23.71 sign was is that the work 00:02:23.71\00:02:25.97 would all dry up. 00:02:25.97\00:02:27.81 And what was happening at that 00:02:27.81\00:02:29.08 time, Kim Dawson, they were 00:02:29.08\00:02:30.25 spending a lot of money 00:02:30.25\00:02:31.51 promoting me and the work was 00:02:31.51\00:02:32.98 coming in so that was gonna be 00:02:32.98\00:02:34.45 a true sign. 00:02:34.45\00:02:35.85 And the work did dry up. 00:02:35.85\00:02:38.45 What I did is I went to the 00:02:38.45\00:02:40.69 office where I had my head 00:02:40.69\00:02:42.96 sheet on the wall with our 00:02:42.96\00:02:45.49 pictures, I took that down and 00:02:45.49\00:02:47.50 I had written on another piece 00:02:47.50\00:02:49.46 of paper, "A person with beauty, 00:02:49.46\00:02:53.50 "but without a sound judgment 00:02:53.50\00:02:55.24 "is worthless like a gold ring 00:02:55.24\00:02:57.01 in a pig snout," and I put it 00:02:57.01\00:02:59.01 on the wall there and I left. 00:02:59.01\00:03:01.54 >> So, Jerry, you're out of 00:03:01.54\00:03:03.04 the modelling industry, did 00:03:03.04\00:03:04.68 you feel like going home? 00:03:04.68\00:03:06.75 >> Yes, I actually went to my 00:03:06.75\00:03:09.75 folk's place in Saskatchewan, 00:03:09.75\00:03:11.72 Ituna, Saskatchewan and went 00:03:11.72\00:03:13.89 to visit with them and it was 00:03:13.89\00:03:15.42 really good because it was a 00:03:15.42\00:03:17.03 time when we were spiritually 00:03:17.03\00:03:19.56 connected and we would have 00:03:19.56\00:03:22.00 devotional time together which 00:03:22.00\00:03:24.47 was beautiful, then also, I 00:03:24.47\00:03:28.24 recall, I don't know if it was 00:03:28.24\00:03:29.60 TV, radio, whatever, but 00:03:29.60\00:03:31.24 somehow I got an invitation 00:03:31.24\00:03:33.81 from It Is Written. 00:03:33.81\00:03:35.48 And what I did is, they were 00:03:35.48\00:03:37.91 offering to purchase the It Is 00:03:37.91\00:03:40.98 Written Heritage Bible so I 00:03:40.98\00:03:44.35 bought this in 1978. 00:03:44.35\00:03:46.79 It was the first Bible I ever 00:03:46.79\00:03:48.42 bought and it's the only one 00:03:48.42\00:03:49.82 I've ever purchased and I 00:03:49.82\00:03:51.09 still have it today. 00:03:51.09\00:03:52.29 >> That's wonderful. 00:03:53.19\00:03:54.20 So, Jerry, can you tell us 00:03:54.20\00:03:56.00 what it was like having family 00:03:56.00\00:03:58.03 devotions and getting into 00:03:58.03\00:03:59.73 spiritual conversations with 00:03:59.73\00:04:01.30 your parents again? 00:04:01.30\00:04:02.70 >> It was good, you know, to 00:04:02.70\00:04:04.24 talk with Dad on the spiritual 00:04:04.24\00:04:07.24 level and with Mom, I'd go to 00:04:07.24\00:04:09.18 church with them which was 00:04:09.18\00:04:13.35 interesting because it was the 00:04:13.35\00:04:14.62 first time I actually really 00:04:14.62\00:04:15.95 wanted to go to church. 00:04:15.95\00:04:17.65 I went back to Port Dover, 00:04:17.65\00:04:20.39 Ontario and that's where I 00:04:20.39\00:04:21.96 lived a lot of the time on the 00:04:21.96\00:04:23.43 street where I was raised in 00:04:23.43\00:04:24.93 that area and the Lord was just 00:04:24.93\00:04:27.83 leading, even when I was in 00:04:27.83\00:04:29.23 Saskatchewan I was praying, 00:04:29.23\00:04:30.43 you know, what I should 00:04:30.43\00:04:31.83 be doing. 00:04:31.83\00:04:32.80 I was thinking about the 00:04:32.80\00:04:34.24 ministry and the Lord was just 00:04:34.24\00:04:35.97 leading me to restitution to 00:04:35.97\00:04:38.91 first go and make things right, 00:04:38.91\00:04:41.18 same as with the watermelon 00:04:41.18\00:04:42.88 and I did. 00:04:42.88\00:04:45.15 And I'd go and see a person, 00:04:45.15\00:04:46.92 but there was sometimes a 00:04:46.92\00:04:48.68 little bit of anxiety, but it 00:04:48.68\00:04:50.69 was beautiful 'cause I'd spend 00:04:50.69\00:04:52.35 time with study and devotion 00:04:52.35\00:04:54.09 first in the morning and 00:04:54.09\00:04:55.46 the Lord would just give me an 00:04:55.46\00:04:56.59 encouragement. 00:04:56.59\00:04:57.93 I'd go see the people that I 00:04:57.93\00:04:59.79 had robbed and some I knew, 00:04:59.79\00:05:01.43 most of them I knew, some I 00:05:01.43\00:05:03.47 didn't, and I just said that, 00:05:03.47\00:05:05.17 you know, "I robbed you, broke 00:05:05.17\00:05:06.84 into your places," whatever, 00:05:06.84\00:05:08.47 and I had money and "I'd like 00:05:08.47\00:05:09.94 to give you this money." 00:05:09.94\00:05:11.71 And they'd ask me what 00:05:11.71\00:05:13.11 happened in life and they just 00:05:13.11\00:05:14.31 said, "No, keep the money, 00:05:14.31\00:05:15.48 "keep on doing what you're 00:05:15.48\00:05:16.58 doing." 00:05:16.58\00:05:17.55 Then one day the Lord put on 00:05:17.55\00:05:19.08 my heart go see this individual 00:05:19.08\00:05:21.45 I mentioned about in the 00:05:21.45\00:05:23.59 previous episode where this 00:05:23.59\00:05:26.09 ex-drug-dealer, where he did 00:05:26.09\00:05:28.02 something and I went and did 00:05:28.02\00:05:29.56 something and I sat in the 00:05:29.56\00:05:30.76 county jail and I was 00:05:30.76\00:05:31.96 thinking, you know, I was gonna 00:05:31.96\00:05:33.36 kill him and I really wanted 00:05:33.36\00:05:34.56 to kill him. 00:05:34.56\00:05:35.83 And the Lord put on my heart 00:05:35.83\00:05:38.83 to go see him and to ask for 00:05:38.83\00:05:42.27 forgiveness. 00:05:42.27\00:05:43.67 And the other thing is is that 00:05:43.67\00:05:45.14 I was not to mention anything 00:05:45.14\00:05:46.68 that he did because that's not 00:05:46.68\00:05:48.78 true forgiveness. 00:05:48.78\00:05:50.21 And he was reluctant to see me 00:05:50.21\00:05:52.75 then he said, "OK," I went 00:05:52.75\00:05:54.08 over to his apartment in the 00:05:54.08\00:05:55.82 hallway and he had a big empty 00:05:55.82\00:05:57.82 Texas Mickey in his hand in 00:05:57.82\00:05:59.85 case something happened and I 00:05:59.85\00:06:01.46 just said, "Hey, man, I 00:06:01.46\00:06:03.36 apologize for what I did to 00:06:03.36\00:06:05.36 you, I was wrong," and I took 00:06:05.36\00:06:08.06 out money and I gave him money. 00:06:08.06\00:06:11.17 And he was surprised, the look 00:06:11.17\00:06:12.60 on his face was amazing, he 00:06:12.60\00:06:14.17 was surprised and I gave him a 00:06:14.17\00:06:15.77 short testimony of what's 00:06:15.77\00:06:17.14 happening in life. 00:06:17.14\00:06:18.67 There was some individuals I 00:06:18.67\00:06:21.71 was staying with in Langley 00:06:21.71\00:06:23.65 and these were serious drug 00:06:23.65\00:06:25.65 guys, serious people, and I've 00:06:25.65\00:06:28.12 seen what they would do to 00:06:28.12\00:06:29.38 people if they messed with 00:06:29.38\00:06:30.52 them, but I still had this 00:06:30.52\00:06:32.32 thing of stealing and I knew 00:06:32.32\00:06:34.22 where the stash of drugs were 00:06:34.22\00:06:37.03 and I stole the drugs back in 00:06:37.03\00:06:39.26 the-- before my experience, 00:06:39.26\00:06:41.00 right, accepting the Lord. 00:06:41.00\00:06:42.80 And the Lord put on my heart 00:06:42.80\00:06:44.53 to go see this person and I 00:06:44.53\00:06:48.17 said, "OK," so, you know, I go 00:06:48.17\00:06:49.77 and I'm hitch hiking to BC and 00:06:49.77\00:06:52.77 I go and I can't find the 00:06:52.77\00:06:56.61 person and-- but what these 00:06:56.61\00:06:58.65 guys did, OK, when they caught 00:06:58.65\00:07:01.65 me previously before I went to 00:07:01.65\00:07:04.82 Dallas, they caught me and 00:07:04.82\00:07:07.99 they chased me out of a 00:07:07.99\00:07:09.49 building and I ran and I 00:07:09.49\00:07:11.83 finally gave up and I went, 00:07:11.83\00:07:13.53 they got me down on the ground 00:07:13.53\00:07:15.06 and one had a big stick and 00:07:15.06\00:07:16.60 they said, "Well, let's kill 00:07:16.60\00:07:17.80 him," the other said, "No, 00:07:17.80\00:07:19.10 let's just poke his eyes out." 00:07:19.10\00:07:20.17 But for some reason they 00:07:20.17\00:07:22.64 stopped, but they knew it was 00:07:22.64\00:07:26.24 me that did it, but they 00:07:26.24\00:07:28.11 stopped. 00:07:28.11\00:07:29.38 So the Lord put on my heart to 00:07:29.38\00:07:31.18 go see if I can find these 00:07:31.18\00:07:32.88 guys and I couldn't find them. 00:07:32.88\00:07:35.32 When I couldn't find the 00:07:35.32\00:07:36.65 people, those ex-drug-dealing 00:07:36.65\00:07:39.15 guys, to make things right, I 00:07:39.15\00:07:41.02 was out hitch hiking 'cause I 00:07:41.02\00:07:42.56 knew I had another charge on 00:07:42.56\00:07:44.13 me and the police pulled me 00:07:44.13\00:07:46.16 over and they looked me up and 00:07:46.16\00:07:50.50 they said, "Yeah you have this 00:07:50.50\00:07:51.87 charge," and I said, "Yeah, I 00:07:51.87\00:07:53.30 know I have to deal with this. 00:07:53.30\00:07:54.64 And it was a pretty serious-- 00:07:54.64\00:07:55.90 with violence. 00:07:55.90\00:07:57.21 [MIKE] So even though Jesus 00:07:57.21\00:07:58.31 had forgiven you, you still had 00:07:58.31\00:07:59.84 things in this world you had 00:07:59.84\00:08:01.28 to deal with, right? 00:08:01.28\00:08:02.58 [JERRY] I had that one charge, 00:08:02.58\00:08:03.91 I knew I had that to deal with 00:08:03.91\00:08:05.41 yet and what they did is they, 00:08:05.41\00:08:08.52 after taking me to jail, they 00:08:08.52\00:08:10.39 were gonna fly me up to 00:08:10.39\00:08:11.89 Kitimat and I was with a 00:08:11.89\00:08:14.09 detective going on a small 00:08:14.09\00:08:15.86 plane in handcuffs and there 00:08:15.86\00:08:17.86 was just a few other people on 00:08:17.86\00:08:19.53 the plane. 00:08:19.53\00:08:20.60 And it was pretty embarrassing 00:08:20.60\00:08:21.80 going on a plane with handcuffs 00:08:21.80\00:08:23.40 and I remember going into the 00:08:23.40\00:08:24.97 plane and the tactical point, 00:08:24.97\00:08:26.90 you sit at the window. 00:08:26.90\00:08:29.00 So I sat at the window and he 00:08:29.00\00:08:30.44 was in the aisle side and the 00:08:30.44\00:08:32.27 handcuffs and we're just 00:08:32.27\00:08:33.81 talking and I start sharing my 00:08:33.81\00:08:36.08 testimony with him, what has 00:08:36.08\00:08:37.58 happened in life and whatever 00:08:37.58\00:08:39.11 and after sharing that with 00:08:39.11\00:08:40.78 him, he just looked down at 00:08:40.78\00:08:42.78 the handcuffs and he looked at 00:08:42.78\00:08:44.29 me and he goes, "We don't need 00:08:44.29\00:08:45.92 those, do we?" 00:08:45.92\00:08:47.52 And I said, "No," but he said, 00:08:47.52\00:08:50.63 "Before we land, these go back 00:08:50.63\00:08:53.60 on," and I said, "Yes," and I 00:08:53.60\00:08:55.63 agreed. 00:08:55.63\00:08:56.63 So we just had a really good 00:08:56.63\00:08:58.27 visit together. 00:08:58.27\00:09:00.17 And then what happened is I 00:09:00.17\00:09:02.90 had to go in front of the 00:09:02.90\00:09:04.31 judge and the judge asked me 00:09:04.31\00:09:07.51 what's been happening in my 00:09:07.51\00:09:09.34 life and they went off all my 00:09:09.34\00:09:11.35 charges previous in my record 00:09:11.35\00:09:14.35 so what's been happening now 00:09:14.35\00:09:15.98 and I told him, I gave him my 00:09:15.98\00:09:17.82 testimony, respectfully, in 00:09:17.82\00:09:19.69 the courtroom and... 00:09:19.69\00:09:22.66 the judge said to me, he said, 00:09:24.63\00:09:29.50 "What I'm gonna do is give you 00:09:29.50\00:09:30.90 a fine," and I knew he could've 00:09:30.90\00:09:33.00 given me some good jail time, 00:09:33.00\00:09:34.94 more jail time for this. 00:09:34.94\00:09:37.24 And he said, "Can you pay for 00:09:37.24\00:09:39.17 this fine?" 00:09:39.17\00:09:40.31 And I said, "Yes." 00:09:40.31\00:09:41.84 And, but he said this: "Failing 00:09:41.84\00:09:44.45 to appear is automatic, I 00:09:44.45\00:09:47.12 have no choice, I have to give 00:09:47.12\00:09:48.88 you this jail time for this." 00:09:48.88\00:09:50.79 And so I said, "OK," you know, 00:09:50.79\00:09:52.79 and I went to jail to do that 00:09:52.79\00:09:54.36 time and it was a totally 00:09:54.36\00:09:55.82 different experience when, 00:09:55.82\00:09:57.66 before when I'd go to jail, a 00:09:57.66\00:09:59.16 lot of people I'd be looking 00:09:59.16\00:10:00.50 for who I knew and whatever it 00:10:00.50\00:10:02.00 was and you're meeting people. 00:10:02.00\00:10:03.77 This time it was just like, I 00:10:03.77\00:10:05.40 just wanted there, if I meet 00:10:05.40\00:10:07.27 somebody, hallelujah, but it's 00:10:07.27\00:10:09.14 gonna be about a testimony of 00:10:09.14\00:10:10.84 Jesus, right? 00:10:10.84\00:10:12.07 Then I got out from there and 00:10:12.07\00:10:15.21 I went back to Port Dover, 00:10:15.21\00:10:18.48 Ontario and I saw that there 00:10:18.48\00:10:22.32 was a bakery for sale. 00:10:22.32\00:10:24.39 >> And so did you decide to 00:10:24.39\00:10:25.89 get this bakery? 00:10:25.89\00:10:27.42 >> What I did is I looked at it 00:10:27.42\00:10:30.09 and my sister said and 00:10:30.09\00:10:34.46 brother-in-law said that if I 00:10:34.46\00:10:36.50 got someone qualified to bake 00:10:36.50\00:10:40.34 then they would sign for me 00:10:40.34\00:10:43.10 and which they did. 00:10:43.10\00:10:44.91 So I got the bakery. 00:10:44.91\00:10:46.57 >> Did you have any challenges 00:10:46.57\00:10:48.28 in your spiritual walk? 00:10:48.28\00:10:50.65 >> I'd always spend time in 00:10:50.65\00:10:52.35 the morning, you know, with 00:10:52.35\00:10:54.02 the Lord, my devotional time, 00:10:54.02\00:10:55.85 because I wanted to and I-- 00:10:55.85\00:10:59.29 what was happening, I could 00:10:59.29\00:11:01.09 tell myself, I was sliding 00:11:01.09\00:11:03.22 a bit. 00:11:03.22\00:11:04.29 I'd go, "Oh, I'm just gonna 00:11:04.29\00:11:05.79 drive into town," you know, 00:11:05.79\00:11:07.56 "and then I'm gonna have my 00:11:07.56\00:11:08.83 devotional time." 00:11:08.83\00:11:10.37 And then I was, "Oh, I'm just 00:11:10.37\00:11:11.77 "gonna go and get the dough 00:11:11.77\00:11:13.60 going in the mixer," and then 00:11:13.60\00:11:15.50 I was just gonna let it rise 00:11:15.50\00:11:17.01 and all these stages, then I 00:11:17.01\00:11:18.64 was forcing myself to have a 00:11:18.64\00:11:20.38 devotional time. 00:11:20.38\00:11:22.28 And I was finding myself, I 00:11:22.28\00:11:24.35 was becoming very legalistic 00:11:24.35\00:11:26.15 and I was actually seeing the 00:11:26.15\00:11:27.58 faults in people. 00:11:27.58\00:11:28.78 Things I didn't see before. 00:11:28.78\00:11:30.15 I'd see 'em, but my attitude 00:11:30.15\00:11:31.85 was different, I was really 00:11:31.85\00:11:33.86 judging them. 00:11:33.86\00:11:35.36 And I'd start slipping away. 00:11:35.36\00:11:37.59 And I end up getting married. 00:11:37.59\00:11:40.63 >> And how did that 00:11:40.63\00:11:41.50 relationship go? 00:11:41.50\00:11:42.83 >> It ended up in a divorce, 00:11:42.83\00:11:44.70 like, four years later. 00:11:44.70\00:11:47.00 We had a son and that's where 00:11:47.00\00:11:48.74 it was a really hard time in 00:11:48.74\00:11:50.57 my life and it was a-- I was 00:11:50.57\00:11:53.71 just losing that closeness 00:11:53.71\00:11:55.71 with the Lord. 00:11:55.71\00:11:57.55 >> So the bakery was really 00:11:57.55\00:11:59.38 taking up a lot of your time. 00:11:59.38\00:12:01.35 >> It was, what I was doing is 00:12:01.35\00:12:03.35 I'd get so "busy doing God's 00:12:03.35\00:12:06.05 work," you know, and that 00:12:06.05\00:12:09.62 became first, the work became 00:12:09.62\00:12:12.13 first, talking to other people 00:12:12.13\00:12:14.36 came first, my quiet time with 00:12:14.36\00:12:17.67 the Lord was secondary, even, 00:12:17.67\00:12:19.87 it got to the point where I 00:12:19.87\00:12:21.40 really didn't even want to, 00:12:21.40\00:12:22.84 I'd go to church, but I wasn't 00:12:22.84\00:12:24.34 really interested in it. 00:12:24.34\00:12:26.04 I'd still go and sometimes 00:12:26.04\00:12:27.88 even speak, but I knew, in my 00:12:27.88\00:12:31.08 heart, I was slipping away. 00:12:31.08\00:12:34.28 >> So you were really making 00:12:34.28\00:12:35.62 your work your saviour... 00:12:35.62\00:12:37.25 >> Yes, yes. 00:12:37.25\00:12:38.25 [RENÉ] ...and not Jesus your 00:12:38.25\00:12:39.29 saviour. 00:12:39.29\00:12:40.22 >> Always keeping the Sabbath. 00:12:40.22\00:12:41.39 >> So, Jerry, you then left 00:12:43.02\00:12:44.63 the bakery? 00:12:44.63\00:12:46.43 >> Yes, and I moved to Alberta 00:12:46.43\00:12:49.10 and I was doing just odd jobs 00:12:49.10\00:12:52.87 that I could get and then I 00:12:52.87\00:12:55.50 had an interest in massage 00:12:55.50\00:12:57.37 therapy and so I enrolled in 00:12:57.37\00:12:59.51 the massage therapy. 00:12:59.51\00:13:01.18 They accepted me even with my 00:13:01.18\00:13:02.51 low grade 8, they said, 00:13:02.51\00:13:05.35 "Let's just see how you can 00:13:05.35\00:13:06.65 do," and I scored high in the 00:13:06.65\00:13:08.05 practical, low in the written 00:13:08.05\00:13:09.35 and they said, "OK, you can 00:13:09.35\00:13:10.35 come in." 00:13:10.35\00:13:11.42 And so from there, I end up 00:13:11.42\00:13:13.15 having a successful business 00:13:13.15\00:13:15.69 in downtown Calgary, a number 00:13:15.69\00:13:17.93 of businesses in that work. 00:13:17.93\00:13:19.89 I travelled for about seven 00:13:19.89\00:13:22.40 years with Olympic athletes 00:13:22.40\00:13:24.07 doing their therapy with the 00:13:24.07\00:13:26.20 team, I was the therapist for 00:13:26.20\00:13:27.94 the Jamaican Olympic team in 00:13:27.94\00:13:29.67 Barcelona in 1992, I developed 00:13:29.67\00:13:32.41 an ergonomic software program. 00:13:32.41\00:13:34.41 So I was doing this, the money 00:13:34.41\00:13:36.14 was coming in and my ego was 00:13:36.14\00:13:37.98 still up here, but all that 00:13:37.98\00:13:39.61 time I had a hole, I had a 00:13:39.61\00:13:41.75 hole in my heart. 00:13:41.75\00:13:43.59 And at that time, also, that I 00:13:43.59\00:13:46.99 actually was seeing a lady and 00:13:46.99\00:13:50.86 we got pregnant and I didn't 00:13:50.86\00:13:55.63 know what to do at that time 00:13:55.63\00:13:58.70 and so what I did, as I look 00:13:58.70\00:14:02.14 at it, the selfish thing and 00:14:02.14\00:14:04.64 she was in agreement to have 00:14:04.64\00:14:07.14 the abortion and I did, too. 00:14:07.14\00:14:10.35 And the sad thing is is that 00:14:10.35\00:14:12.38 the day that the baby was 00:14:12.38\00:14:14.65 being aborted, I was on a-- 00:14:14.65\00:14:17.69 'cause I went back into the 00:14:17.69\00:14:19.12 drug scene again and crazy 00:14:19.12\00:14:22.16 lifestyle, that I was on the 00:14:22.16\00:14:26.19 stand testifying on behalf of 00:14:26.19\00:14:29.60 a drug dealer I knew, 00:14:29.60\00:14:31.67 supporting him, while the 00:14:31.67\00:14:35.64 little baby was being aborted. 00:14:35.64\00:14:39.37 And that, after that I would 00:14:39.37\00:14:40.94 just numb me, and I was 00:14:40.94\00:14:42.71 actually, that would numb me 00:14:42.71\00:14:44.65 when I'd actually see a parent 00:14:44.65\00:14:46.68 with a little baby and I'd 00:14:46.68\00:14:48.62 just numb myself more and it 00:14:48.62\00:14:50.42 just put a deep, deep hole 00:14:50.42\00:14:52.69 into me and I'd just say, 00:14:52.69\00:14:55.06 anybody thinking of doing 00:14:55.06\00:14:56.69 that, really give it some 00:14:56.69\00:14:58.19 thought because the 00:14:58.19\00:14:59.76 consequences after, if you do 00:14:59.76\00:15:02.20 grow spiritually, it's gonna 00:15:02.20\00:15:04.73 bother you until you actually 00:15:04.73\00:15:08.17 learn about forgiveness. 00:15:08.17\00:15:10.87 >> So you were drifting away 00:15:10.87\00:15:12.47 from the Lord. 00:15:12.47\00:15:13.58 >> Yes, and it was a real 00:15:13.58\00:15:15.94 drift and what happened is I 00:15:15.94\00:15:19.81 moved up to Barrhead and 00:15:19.81\00:15:21.92 that's actually where my 00:15:21.92\00:15:23.92 ex-wife and I separated, it 00:15:23.92\00:15:25.42 was in Barrhead. 00:15:25.42\00:15:26.99 And I went there and I was in 00:15:26.99\00:15:33.46 with a gentleman, Marius, we 00:15:33.46\00:15:35.46 were staying in this house and 00:15:35.46\00:15:38.40 I just had no interest in 00:15:38.40\00:15:40.27 studying the Bible anymore. 00:15:40.27\00:15:41.97 And I took out this Bible bag 00:15:41.97\00:15:44.21 that I had made in Port Dover, 00:15:44.21\00:15:46.24 Ontario in 1979 and I remember 00:15:46.24\00:15:49.08 moving from that house, I just 00:15:49.08\00:15:50.61 took it like this and I just 00:15:50.61\00:15:52.05 throw it to him, to Marius, 00:15:52.05\00:15:53.45 and I said, "Here, do whatever 00:15:53.45\00:15:54.78 you want with it." 00:15:54.78\00:15:56.08 And he took it. 00:15:56.08\00:15:57.89 And I took this Bible and I 00:15:57.89\00:15:59.82 put it in a box and that Bible 00:15:59.82\00:16:03.99 stayed in the box for close to 00:16:03.99\00:16:05.76 24 years and I was just going 00:16:05.76\00:16:09.46 deeper in a hole in my 00:16:09.46\00:16:11.37 spiritual walk. 00:16:11.37\00:16:12.87 The beautiful thing is that 00:16:12.87\00:16:15.84 even when I was going to the 00:16:15.84\00:16:17.34 bar, you know, we were looking 00:16:17.34\00:16:18.67 and doing this history of 00:16:18.67\00:16:20.28 music in the Highwood area, 00:16:20.28\00:16:21.74 High River area and I had one 00:16:21.74\00:16:23.95 spot left for a musician and 00:16:23.95\00:16:26.35 someone told me about this 00:16:26.35\00:16:27.88 bluegrass gospel singer, Mary 00:16:27.88\00:16:31.19 Ellen Goslin, and I said, 00:16:31.19\00:16:32.99 "OK," and I remember I was the 00:16:32.99\00:16:34.49 passenger in the vehicle and I 00:16:34.49\00:16:35.99 went and got a case of beer, I 00:16:35.99\00:16:37.49 was drinking beer all the way 00:16:37.49\00:16:39.03 to this bluegrass Christian 00:16:39.03\00:16:41.73 festival and I got there and I 00:16:41.73\00:16:44.20 met her and I told her about 00:16:44.20\00:16:47.34 this spot we had left over and 00:16:47.34\00:16:48.74 she goes, yeah, she would 00:16:48.74\00:16:50.01 do it. 00:16:50.01\00:16:50.94 And see, I was interested in 00:16:50.94\00:16:52.27 gospel music, but I wasn't 00:16:52.27\00:16:53.48 walking with the Lord then, 00:16:53.48\00:16:54.94 you see? 00:16:54.94\00:16:56.01 And one day she said to me, 00:16:56.01\00:17:02.15 she said, "If you died today, 00:17:02.15\00:17:04.42 do you know what would happen?" 00:17:04.42\00:17:06.49 And I said, "Well, kinda." 00:17:06.49\00:17:08.32 And she says, "That ain't good 00:17:08.32\00:17:10.16 enough." 00:17:10.16\00:17:11.46 So the Holy Spirit used her in 00:17:11.46\00:17:13.83 the parking lot to reach me. 00:17:13.83\00:17:16.77 And one day when I was working 00:17:16.77\00:17:19.10 on construction, I was on top 00:17:19.10\00:17:21.07 of a rooftop and I was knocking 00:17:21.07\00:17:24.01 down a chimney and at this 00:17:24.01\00:17:26.51 time, hurting, I was hurting 00:17:26.51\00:17:28.71 in my life, I was even 00:17:28.71\00:17:31.28 driving, I remember driving 00:17:31.28\00:17:32.55 home from the job one day, 00:17:32.55\00:17:34.38 drinking a bottle of vodka 00:17:34.38\00:17:35.82 straight, I was just numbing 00:17:35.82\00:17:37.25 myself out to kill that pain. 00:17:37.25\00:17:39.89 I never liked the taste of 00:17:39.89\00:17:41.36 alcohol, I just drank it to 00:17:41.36\00:17:42.72 numb myself out. 00:17:42.72\00:17:44.16 And I was on top of that 00:17:44.16\00:17:46.59 rooftop and the Lord just 00:17:46.59\00:17:49.20 touched my heart. 00:17:49.20\00:17:51.33 And I remember when I was 00:17:51.33\00:17:53.84 there on my knees, knocking 00:17:53.84\00:17:55.64 this chimney down, I had that 00:17:55.64\00:17:57.84 same experience of surrender 00:17:57.84\00:18:00.11 that I had in Dallas where I 00:18:00.11\00:18:02.18 surrendered all to the Lord. 00:18:02.18\00:18:04.11 And what I did is I had this 00:18:04.11\00:18:05.95 bucket, this bucket right here 00:18:05.95\00:18:08.35 that I would carry the bricks 00:18:08.35\00:18:09.88 with and throw over the side 00:18:09.88\00:18:11.59 the building. 00:18:11.59\00:18:12.95 I turned, after praying and 00:18:12.95\00:18:14.76 accepting the Lord in my life 00:18:14.76\00:18:16.46 and singing, I took out my red 00:18:16.46\00:18:18.46 marker and I wrote on here, 00:18:18.46\00:18:20.96 "June 32, June the 8th, 2009." 00:18:20.96\00:18:26.87 And you know what, it was the 00:18:26.87\00:18:28.50 day I re-surrendered to the 00:18:28.50\00:18:29.84 Lord. 00:18:29.84\00:18:30.77 And from that day, even though 00:18:30.77\00:18:32.81 I was dealing with the 00:18:32.81\00:18:34.08 pornography, I was dealing 00:18:34.08\00:18:35.48 with all these issues, and 00:18:35.48\00:18:36.95 that big hole that was in my 00:18:36.95\00:18:38.51 life, that day my life changed. 00:18:38.51\00:18:40.92 And I never went, by the grace 00:18:42.38\00:18:43.82 of God, the Lord was leading 00:18:43.82\00:18:45.59 me, but it was actually 00:18:45.59\00:18:47.62 spending time again, spending 00:18:47.62\00:18:49.86 'cause I wanted to, you know, 00:18:49.86\00:18:52.09 spend time with the Lord in my 00:18:52.09\00:18:53.83 devotional time and it was a 00:18:53.83\00:18:56.60 real blessing and growth. 00:18:56.60\00:18:58.37 Yeah, 2010, my first camp 00:18:59.37\00:19:01.57 meeting after accepting the 00:19:01.57\00:19:03.47 Lord on that rooftop. 00:19:03.47\00:19:05.11 I was in the ABC, I was 00:19:05.11\00:19:06.91 looking at some books and I 00:19:06.91\00:19:08.48 felt a little poke in my rib 00:19:08.48\00:19:09.98 and I turned around and this 00:19:09.98\00:19:11.55 guy goes, "Do you remember me?" 00:19:11.55\00:19:13.18 I said, "Yeah, Marius!" 00:19:13.18\00:19:15.45 And it was the guy who lived 00:19:15.45\00:19:16.79 in that farmhouse, the guy I 00:19:16.79\00:19:18.42 threw the Bible bag to. 00:19:18.42\00:19:20.06 And we talked and he goes-- he 00:19:20.06\00:19:21.79 was single when we lived in 00:19:21.79\00:19:23.32 that farmhouse, he goes, "Come 00:19:23.32\00:19:24.89 meet my family." 00:19:24.89\00:19:26.06 So I went in his motor home and 00:19:26.06\00:19:27.23 met his family, we were 00:19:27.23\00:19:28.73 talking and he goes and he 00:19:28.73\00:19:30.47 comes from the back of the 00:19:30.47\00:19:32.03 motor home and he brings his 00:19:32.03\00:19:34.80 Bible bag out and he goes, "Do 00:19:34.80\00:19:37.41 you remember this?" 00:19:37.41\00:19:39.31 I did and I actually sat there 00:19:40.18\00:19:41.88 and I cried. 00:19:41.88\00:19:43.55 And we were looking, we talked 00:19:43.55\00:19:45.08 about it and I remember after 00:19:45.08\00:19:46.61 going from the motor home, 00:19:46.61\00:19:48.05 we'd go and talk to people and 00:19:48.05\00:19:49.55 I saw Don Corkum, I said, 00:19:49.55\00:19:51.19 "This is the guy we gave the 00:19:51.19\00:19:52.42 Bible bag to," you know. 00:19:52.42\00:19:54.12 And you know what the amazing 00:19:54.12\00:19:55.32 thing is is that he said to 00:19:55.32\00:19:56.83 me, he says, "When I get the 00:19:56.83\00:19:59.83 buckle fixed," he says, "it's 00:19:59.83\00:20:01.86 "gonna go back to its rightful 00:20:01.86\00:20:03.60 owner." 00:20:03.60\00:20:04.73 And his wife was telling him 00:20:04.73\00:20:06.00 to get rid of it, it'd been to 00:20:06.00\00:20:07.17 ten different countries with 00:20:07.17\00:20:08.64 him, all over the world, 00:20:08.64\00:20:10.04 wherever he'd go, he had this 00:20:10.04\00:20:11.47 Bible, it meant so much to him. 00:20:11.47\00:20:13.71 So what we did is we, some 00:20:13.71\00:20:15.78 time later, we went back to 00:20:15.78\00:20:18.21 Barrhead, Alberta where we 00:20:18.21\00:20:19.98 lived in that old farmhouse 00:20:19.98\00:20:21.65 where I lost my walk and where 00:20:21.65\00:20:23.55 I gave him that Bible bag and 00:20:23.55\00:20:25.52 what he did is he handed me 00:20:25.52\00:20:27.82 the Bible bag and I took this 00:20:27.82\00:20:29.96 Bible that used to be in this 00:20:29.96\00:20:32.73 bag all the time, the It Is 00:20:32.73\00:20:34.50 Written Bible, I put it back 00:20:34.50\00:20:36.77 into that bag and we've been 00:20:36.77\00:20:39.63 reunited ever since. 00:20:39.63\00:20:43.00 So praise God. 00:20:43.00\00:20:44.44 [gentle guitar musi] 00:20:44.44\00:20:48.54 ¤Softly and tenderly 00:20:51.45\00:20:56.02 ¤Jesus is calling 00:20:56.02\00:21:00.52 ¤Calling for you 00:21:00.52\00:21:03.99 ¤and for me 00:21:03.99\00:21:07.96 ¤At the heart's portal 00:21:09.63\00:21:13.94 ¤He's waiting and watching 00:21:13.94\00:21:18.91 ¤Watching for you 00:21:18.91\00:21:22.61 ¤and for me 00:21:22.61\00:21:26.45 ¤Come home, come home 00:21:28.08\00:21:38.03 ¤Ye who are weary 00:21:38.03\00:21:41.93 ¤come home 00:21:41.93\00:21:46.10 ¤Earnestly, tenderly 00:21:47.64\00:21:51.74 ¤Jesus is calling 00:21:51.74\00:21:56.85 ¤Calling, O sinner 00:21:56.85\00:22:00.48 ¤come home 00:22:00.48\00:22:03.95 ¤¤ 00:22:03.95\00:22:10.86 ¤Earnestly, tenderly 00:22:10.86\00:22:15.23 ¤Jesus is calling 00:22:15.23\00:22:19.70 ¤Calling for you 00:22:19.70\00:22:23.37 ¤and for me 00:22:23.37\00:22:27.34 ¤Earnestly, tenderly 00:22:29.48\00:22:34.52 ¤Jesus is calling 00:22:34.52\00:22:39.62 ¤Calling, O sinner 00:22:39.62\00:22:44.13 ¤come home 00:22:44.13\00:22:48.86 ¤¤ 00:22:48.86\00:22:59.77 >> I can share that in 2020 00:23:02.14\00:23:08.75 I got re-baptized. 00:23:08.75\00:23:10.75 My prayer partner, Don Corkum, 00:23:10.75\00:23:12.55 and I talked about it, so at 00:23:12.55\00:23:14.32 camp meeting on June the 20th, 00:23:14.32\00:23:16.93 OK, I got re-baptized. 00:23:16.93\00:23:18.89 So it was ten years since I 00:23:18.89\00:23:20.53 accepted the Lord that I got 00:23:20.53\00:23:22.23 re-baptized two years ago and 00:23:22.23\00:23:24.07 that was a blessed thing. 00:23:24.07\00:23:25.70 So now it's the ministry where 00:23:25.70\00:23:27.64 I've taken training to do the 00:23:27.64\00:23:29.27 Living Free program so I go out 00:23:29.27\00:23:31.24 and do ministry with that and, 00:23:31.24\00:23:33.78 working with people who are 00:23:33.78\00:23:35.48 dealing with addiction issues. 00:23:35.48\00:23:37.31 At home, before COVID, we'd 00:23:37.31\00:23:40.92 have a men's group, so we'd 00:23:40.92\00:23:42.58 have food and the men were 00:23:42.58\00:23:44.32 talking about things that 00:23:44.32\00:23:45.75 wasn't so much Bible study, 00:23:45.75\00:23:46.99 but it was really talking 00:23:46.99\00:23:48.26 about what's going on in men's 00:23:48.26\00:23:49.32 lives, what's going on. 00:23:49.32\00:23:50.56 And we would always lead to 00:23:50.56\00:23:51.73 the spiritual part. 00:23:51.73\00:23:53.09 So we'd always do that on 00:23:53.09\00:23:54.20 Wednesday nights. 00:23:54.20\00:23:55.60 Friday nights we would have 00:23:55.60\00:23:57.53 potluck at the house and we'd 00:23:57.53\00:23:59.30 be following a study, our 00:23:59.30\00:24:00.74 first one was on forgiveness, 00:24:00.74\00:24:02.30 it was really good. 00:24:02.30\00:24:03.77 So sometimes, the majority of 00:24:03.77\00:24:04.87 the time it's more 00:24:04.87\00:24:06.31 non-Adventists than Adventists 00:24:06.31\00:24:07.41 that come to it. 00:24:07.41\00:24:08.84 Then every third Sabbath we 00:24:08.84\00:24:11.05 would have home church and 00:24:11.05\00:24:12.88 sometimes it would be in the 00:24:12.88\00:24:14.38 house, sometimes it would be 00:24:14.38\00:24:16.02 in the park, other times we'd 00:24:16.02\00:24:18.02 have inspirational movie night 00:24:18.02\00:24:20.49 we'd have popcorn and that. 00:24:20.49\00:24:22.89 And to have the privilege of, 00:24:22.89\00:24:24.39 also now as God's leading, but 00:24:24.39\00:24:26.03 always remembering, having 00:24:26.03\00:24:27.60 devotion first, doing-- it's 00:24:27.60\00:24:30.10 God's ministry, God's mission 00:24:30.10\00:24:32.50 field, it's not Jerry's, OK, 00:24:32.50\00:24:34.44 so that's really helped me, 00:24:34.44\00:24:35.80 getting that perspective, to 00:24:35.80\00:24:37.47 work with young teens that 00:24:37.47\00:24:39.34 have made poor choices and 00:24:39.34\00:24:41.08 they've been charged legally, 00:24:41.08\00:24:42.88 so volunteer with Youth's 00:24:42.88\00:24:44.41 Justice for about eight years 00:24:44.41\00:24:46.18 now, working with teens, and 00:24:46.18\00:24:47.72 also the privilege of going 00:24:47.72\00:24:49.58 and doing church ministry. 00:24:49.58\00:24:51.25 Church ministry and also 00:24:51.25\00:24:53.36 prison ministry, go to the 00:24:53.36\00:24:54.79 prisons and just find out what 00:24:54.79\00:24:56.32 their needs are and minister 00:24:56.32\00:24:57.99 with them, it's beautiful. 00:24:57.99\00:24:59.83 >> Sorry, Jerry, we've run out 00:24:59.83\00:25:01.16 of time, but I know you have 00:25:01.16\00:25:02.83 an important picture there. 00:25:02.83\00:25:04.67 >> Yes, thank you, Mike. 00:25:04.67\00:25:06.53 What it is is a picture when I 00:25:06.53\00:25:08.87 was a little baby and my 00:25:08.87\00:25:11.01 family sent this to me a few 00:25:11.01\00:25:13.11 years ago. 00:25:13.11\00:25:14.41 And I remember looking at this 00:25:14.41\00:25:15.61 picture and it was always 00:25:15.61\00:25:17.01 difficult for me. 00:25:17.01\00:25:18.41 It was easy for me to forgive 00:25:18.41\00:25:19.95 other people, difficult to 00:25:19.95\00:25:21.72 forgive myself. 00:25:21.72\00:25:23.28 And I remember looking at this 00:25:23.28\00:25:25.15 picture and I remember 00:25:25.15\00:25:27.02 touching the little feet and I 00:25:27.02\00:25:28.59 was saying, "Sorry, little 00:25:28.59\00:25:30.13 feet, where I took you." 00:25:30.13\00:25:32.99 Then I looked at the hands and 00:25:32.99\00:25:35.23 said, "Sorry, little hands, 00:25:35.23\00:25:38.60 what we did." 00:25:38.60\00:25:40.87 Then I looked at the eyes, 00:25:40.87\00:25:43.00 those kind little eyes there 00:25:43.00\00:25:45.21 and I said, "Sorry for what 00:25:45.21\00:25:46.71 "I've shown you. 00:25:46.71\00:25:48.61 "And also for the ears, what 00:25:48.61\00:25:51.01 I've let you hear in life." 00:25:51.01\00:25:53.28 Then I looked at the mouth and 00:25:53.28\00:25:55.38 I said, "Sorry for all those 00:25:55.38\00:25:57.32 things that I've said." 00:25:57.32\00:26:00.36 After forgiving myself and 00:26:00.36\00:26:01.82 looking at myself as a little 00:26:01.82\00:26:03.56 baby, it was so cleansing, it 00:26:03.56\00:26:05.89 was healing for me. 00:26:05.89\00:26:08.00 >> Wow, Jerry, thank you so 00:26:09.46\00:26:10.90 much, that was such a 00:26:10.90\00:26:13.03 beautiful story to see how God 00:26:13.03\00:26:15.50 totally transformed you and gave 00:26:15.50\00:26:18.74 you a clean, a new clean heart. 00:26:18.74\00:26:21.48 So I wonder if you could 00:26:21.48\00:26:23.24 please pray for us right now? 00:26:23.24\00:26:25.05 >> Sure. 00:26:25.05\00:26:27.02 Dear Heavenly Father, we thank 00:26:27.02\00:26:29.48 You, Lord, for Your love, we 00:26:29.48\00:26:31.22 thank You for Your grace, and 00:26:31.22\00:26:32.95 we thank You for Your mercy, 00:26:32.95\00:26:34.62 and we thank You for Your 00:26:34.62\00:26:36.02 forgiveness. 00:26:36.02\00:26:37.13 Lord, we thank You also, when 00:26:37.13\00:26:38.76 You died, You didn't stay in 00:26:38.76\00:26:40.46 that grave, but You came up, 00:26:40.46\00:26:42.86 Lord, and You're saying to us, 00:26:42.86\00:26:45.23 "Rejoice and be joyful." 00:26:45.23\00:26:48.34 Lord, I just give You thanks 00:26:48.34\00:26:49.77 at the opportunity to share 00:26:49.77\00:26:51.24 here today and I just pray if 00:26:51.24\00:26:52.91 there's anybody that has a 00:26:52.91\00:26:54.64 heavy heart, Lord, just reach 00:26:54.64\00:26:56.48 up to God, wherever you are, 00:26:56.48\00:26:58.38 today is the day. 00:26:58.38\00:27:00.08 We thank You, in Jesus' 00:27:00.08\00:27:01.52 precious name, amen. 00:27:01.52\00:27:02.92 [MIKE & RENÉ] Amen. 00:27:02.92\00:27:04.25 >> Thank you so much, Jerry, 00:27:04.25\00:27:05.92 thank you for sharing last 00:27:05.92\00:27:07.69 week and this week with us. 00:27:07.69\00:27:09.59 >> It's been a blessing. 00:27:09.59\00:27:11.03 Thank you very much. 00:27:11.03\00:27:12.53 >> Friends, our free offer for 00:27:13.76\00:27:15.23 you today is filled with true 00:27:15.23\00:27:18.13 stories of everyday people who 00:27:18.13\00:27:20.14 found themselves trapped by 00:27:20.14\00:27:22.47 life, by the consequences of 00:27:22.47\00:27:24.57 poor choices, and by the 00:27:24.57\00:27:26.37 brokenness of others. 00:27:26.37\00:27:28.48 >> Our free offer, The Only 00:27:28.48\00:27:30.48 Hope, may be for you if you 00:27:30.48\00:27:33.08 feel locked in a life of fear, 00:27:33.08\00:27:35.05 anguish, or depression. 00:27:35.05\00:27:36.95 You will be inspired by these 00:27:36.95\00:27:38.49 true stories of people who 00:27:38.49\00:27:40.22 fought the temptation to numb 00:27:40.22\00:27:41.89 the pain with empty 00:27:41.89\00:27:43.66 relationships, addictive 00:27:43.66\00:27:45.49 substances, or destructive 00:27:45.49\00:27:47.50 behaviours. 00:27:47.50\00:27:49.03 Instead, they found hope, real 00:27:49.03\00:27:52.00 hope, the only hope. 00:27:52.00\00:27:55.00 >> We want you to experience 00:27:56.14\00:27:57.77 the truth that is found in the 00:27:57.77\00:27:59.44 words of Jesus when He said, 00:27:59.44\00:28:01.31 "It is written, 'Man shall not 00:28:01.31\00:28:03.28 "' live by bread alone, but by 00:28:03.28\00:28:05.05 "'every word that proceeds out 00:28:05.05\00:28:06.92 of the mouth of God.'" 00:28:06.92\00:28:08.62 >> I met Jerry at a 2012 North 00:28:10.05\00:28:12.69 American Division training in 00:28:12.69\00:28:14.32 Living Free that I was 00:28:14.32\00:28:15.69 conducting that year. 00:28:15.69\00:28:17.33 And when I heard his testimony 00:28:17.33\00:28:19.93 I knew that part of the reason 00:28:19.93\00:28:21.46 that God had our team put 00:28:21.46\00:28:22.90 these kinds of materials 00:28:22.90\00:28:24.37 together was for the 00:28:24.37\00:28:26.23 boots-on-the ground people 00:28:26.23\00:28:27.84 like Jerry. 00:28:27.84\00:28:29.17 The work that he does with 00:28:29.17\00:28:30.67 souls who are hurting, souls 00:28:30.67\00:28:32.31 who need Christ and who need 00:28:32.31\00:28:34.01 the message for this time is 00:28:34.01\00:28:36.71 what we all need to be doing. 00:28:36.71\00:28:38.35 So I'm so thankful for the 00:28:38.35\00:28:39.81 work that Jerry is doing and 00:28:39.81\00:28:41.48 continues to do with those 00:28:41.48\00:28:44.05 with whom he comes in contact. 00:28:44.05\00:28:46.09 So I want to encourage you to 00:28:46.09\00:28:47.59 listen to what he has to say 00:28:47.59\00:28:49.46 and to be blessed by the 00:28:49.46\00:28:51.23 Living Free materials that we 00:28:51.23\00:28:52.99 have put together to save 00:28:52.99\00:28:54.73 hurting souls in a world of sin. 00:28:54.73\00:28:57.00