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>> He said, "We may have to
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amputate her leg because the
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sores are so bad."
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They came back and they shot
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with their guns in the ceiling
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and, of course, the girls
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screamed.
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Many times we would travel
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30 kilometres a day.
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Our heels would be full of
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blisters and we just-- I asked
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my mother at this time, I
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said, "Mother, when is God
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ever going to give us a home
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again of our own?"
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War cannot be explained, it
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has to be experienced.
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中
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>> Welcome to It Is Written
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Canada.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Our special guest this week
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again is Jacob Hiebert, a
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successful businessman,
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pastor, and administrator who
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lived during World War II
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under the rule of communism
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when being a Christian
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was illegal.
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>> Though it was illegal to
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practice Christianity,
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that did not stop Jacob and
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his family.
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We are so excited for Jacob to
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continue sharing his
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miraculous story with us.
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[MIKE] Jacob, it is so good to
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have you back for our final
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episode and thank you very
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much for joining us again on
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It Is Written Canada.
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>> And I want to thank you for
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having me on your program.
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My sister decided one day,
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she came from the field
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at work and she said,
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"Mother, today I'm gonna
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write to Dad and Dad
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is gonna write, too, we're
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going to-- both letters will
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arrive at the church
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headquarters office in Berlin
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and Dad will know where we are
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and we're going to find
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each other."
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And my mother thought,
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"Where did that enthusiasm
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come from?"
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So she did write the letter
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and my father also wrote a
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letter, both letters arrived,
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one in the morning and the
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other one in the afternoon at
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our Berlin headquarters office.
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And so now they decided,
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"Well, these two must belong
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to each other."
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So they put my sister's letter
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in my dad's letter and sent
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that to him.
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Now my dad knew where we were,
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he knew about the town, that
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was the good news.
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The bad news was that my dad
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found out later there were
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several towns by that same
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name in close proximity.
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One county had the same name
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as the other county.
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So now he really didn't know
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exactly where we were, he had
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some idea, we were either at
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this place or at the
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other place.
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At the same time, my dad was a
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very strong man of faith and
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of prayer and he made it a
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matter of prayer that night
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and he said, "Lord, I need to
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find my family."
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And so that night, as he went
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to sleep, he had a dream and
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he dreamt that he was among a
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lot of people, they were
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jostling back and forth and
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the people were-- he was
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asking, "Well, what's
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happening?"
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Where are we going?"
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"We're going home!"
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"Home?"
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"Well," my father thought,
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"that's where I want to go.
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Where is home?"
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So nothing more was said,
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everybody went and they ended
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up at the train station and
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then everyone boarded the
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train and they were all going
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home, soldiers, all kinds of
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soldiers, this was after the
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war, they were there to find
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their family.
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And so in the dream, my father
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also boarded the train, he
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looked around, he saw what the
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train cars were on one track
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and on another and then the
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train's whistle blew and off
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they were.
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After a while, the train
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stopped briefly.
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The train would frequently
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stop to deliver mail and
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packages and at that time
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since there was no regular
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mail delivery, the way that
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mail was delivered was at the
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train station, the post
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master would get on a big
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wagon that had the packages on
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and he would shout out,
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"Johnson, Franklin," all the
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names like that and if the
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people were there, they would
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claim, "Yes, here," and they
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would claim their mail.
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So this is the way the mail
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system worked at that time,
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but of course my father didn't
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see that part and he woke up.
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And he thought, "Well, that's
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an interesting dream."
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And he was awake about five
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minutes and he was tired, it
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was quite late, and he fell
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asleep again and he dreamt the
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same dream exactly the
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same way.
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And then as he woke up, he
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thought to himself, "What do
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we find in the Bible of
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someone dreaming a dream
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twice, what does that mean?"
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And he was so impressed, he
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said, "If that dream is true,
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I need to find my family and I
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think I will be successful."
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So in the morning, he
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contacted his employer and he
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said, "Look, I know you need
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me for work here, but I need
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to go and find my family."
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And he made him promise that
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if he went, he must bring his
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family back and stay there.
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Well, of course, my father had
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other plans, he wanted to
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cross the border.
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So the next day my father
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was off.
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Where would he go?
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Well, he was going toward the
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train station, but as he
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proceeded, there were a lot of
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other people going to the
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train station and he said,
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"Where are you going?"
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"Oh, we're all going home."
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"Really," and my father
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thought, "Where did I hear
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that before?"
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It was in his dream.
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So he thought, "Well, if
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that's part of the dream,
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the rest will follow."
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So when he went to the train
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station, he recognized the
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train station, the cars that
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were there, in his dream and
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so in short time he boarded
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the train, the whistle blew,
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and off they went.
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And the train was very crowded
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and it was not comfortable for
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people, they could not sit,
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they were just uncomfortable,
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but everyone was happy to be
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going home.
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Presently, the train stopped
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at a station and as my
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father-- they said that they
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would be there for a number of
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minutes, I think close to half
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an hour, and so they were told
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that anyone that wants to get
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off the train can stretch
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their legs and have a
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little rest.
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So my father did the same.
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He went out and then he
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noticed on the second track
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there was a train that had a
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red car and he knew that he
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had seen that in his dream
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and he thought, "Well, isn't
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that something, then I will
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find my family."
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But that's where the dream
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stopped and he thought,
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"Well, what do I do now?
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Where do I go?"
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Well, it just so happened that
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that was one of the towns that
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was in his dream.
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And so as he wondered what he
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should do next, he looked and
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saw the mailman delivering
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mail and the mailman would
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lift his hand and have a
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letter and say, "Johnson,
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Johnson, Johnson," and the
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response would be, "Here we
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are, that's for us."
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And then another one and
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another one and then all of a
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sudden, he couldn't believe
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his ears, "Hiebert, Hiebert,
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Hiebert!"
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And he went forward and he
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said to the mailman,
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"That's me!"
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The mailman looked at him, he
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didn't know him, he knew us,
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and so he said, "Oh, no, no,
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that's not for you, that's for
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a widow with three children."
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And my dad said, "That's the
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widow that I'm looking for,
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too!" [chuckles]
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So the news spread very
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quickly.
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That particular day my family
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was quite discouraged because
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there was no news from the
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letters.
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Now, the interesting thing was
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that my father sent a letter
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to my mother and that letter
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was on the same train that he
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was on.
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And so when the mailman now
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called out his name and he
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finally realized that this was
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part of the same family, he
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gave it to my father and my
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father ended up delivering his
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own letter to us.
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The news spread quite quickly
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and we were living at that
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time in a mansion.
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Now, that sounds great during
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the war, but it was a forsaken
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mansion and we were there with
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about 40 people so everyone
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just had one room and so it
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wasn't as glorious as it
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sounds.
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And so when the people heard
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this, they quickly ran to
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where we were and they said,
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"Come quickly, there's a tall
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man, he's looking for a widow
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with three children."
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And immediately my sister was
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the first one to-- she just
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ran to meet him and my mother
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and the rest of us followed
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and as my mother saw him, she
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had always, you know how we
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fantasize sometimes, she
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fantasized that some day if
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she would meet him again, she
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would meet him in an ally were
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there were trees and where he
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would be coming and she would
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recognize him and they'd be
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reunited and she saw him and
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she said, "That's my David."
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What a reunion that was.
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It's hard for me to tell it
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because it's quite stirring.
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My father having come from
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this factory, he knew that we
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would be poor and have nothing
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and he brought with him dried
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raisins, figs, apricots, dried
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apples, he had a big backpack
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on his back and we didn't know
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what happened to us, he also
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brought a few chocolates and
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it was from famine to feast.
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And so he stayed there with us
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for a couple days and then he
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took us back to the factory
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where he was working and we
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were getting then ready for
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our final escape.
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>> So, Jacob, what was it like
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for your father, being a
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photographer for the
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Communist Party?
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>> One Friday afternoon, a
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Communist Party chief for that
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office there came to our door
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and he inquired, "Are you
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Mr. Hiebert?"
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My father said, "Yes."
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And he said, "I understand
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that you are a photographer."
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"Yes, sir."
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"I understand also that you
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are one of the best
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photographers here."
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"I try to do my best," my
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father responded.
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"Well, and your best you shall
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do because tomorrow morning,"
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which was Saturday, he
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expected my father to work, he
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said, "Tomorrow morning you
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are to show up at the
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Communist Party office.
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Is that understood?"
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My father wondered what he
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should say and I believe God
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gave him the right words, he
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said, "You know, this is such
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an important work, for such an
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important work I usually
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require a day of preparation"
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>> So, Jacob, your dad is a
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Seventh-day Adventist
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Christian and so he wanted to
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keep the Sabbath and it was
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Friday afternoon when the
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Communist Party leader came to
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your dad and asked him to do
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these photographs.
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[JACOB] Yes.
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The days of the week went on,
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Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday
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Thursday, and another Friday
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and Sabbath was the next day
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and we were wondering just
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what would happen now?
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My father couldn't use the
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excuse of a preparation day
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again so my father decided
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that there was no way that he
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was going to work, but how did
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the Lord-- would the Lord help
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us or hear us?
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We did not know.
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So he came home, kept the
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Sabbath, and Sunday morning he
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went to work.
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As he came to work on Sunday
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morning, the party chief also
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came a little bit later and
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usually my dad had to come
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early hours and the party
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chief had more or less banking
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hours, but before that, he had
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told my dad, gave him an
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orientation, he said, "I want
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you to work in this room."
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Now, it was a room off the
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hallway, three sides of that
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room were windows.
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It was-- my father had to do
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black and white photography
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and he had to touch up a lot
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of the pictures with oil
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pencil crayons because that
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was a time before the coloured
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photos and it was also a work
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that needed a lot of light.
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That's why he was given that
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room with the windows and it
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was before the fluorescent
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lights were invented and so it
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was very important that he
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would have sufficient light.
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The party chief also told him,
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"Now, look, we have given you
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quite a bit of equipment to
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work with, paper and glass and
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pencil crayons and cameras,
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tripods, all of that, everyday
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when you go home, we want you
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to put all of that away.
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Everything has a place and
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everything in its place.
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Is that understood?"
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"Yes, sir."
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"And I want you to know that
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only you and I have keys to
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that room so when you leave at
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any time, during the day or in
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the evening to go home, you
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need to lock the door.
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Is that understood?"
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"Yes, sir," said my father.
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So having those instructions
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and now having kept one
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Sabbath, we were wondering
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what would happen for Sabbath
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number two.
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Of course they ventured no
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help and on Sunday morning my
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father went to work not
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knowing what to expect.
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And his motto was, "Never
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answer a question that you're
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not asked."
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And that certainly saved him
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from any embarrassing
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situations and trying times.
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And so as he came to work this
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day, he went down his hallway
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to his office door, unlocked
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the door, opened everything,
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put the equipment in the room
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ready for him to work.
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And he proceeded in that way
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until the Communist Party
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chief came by, he was a little
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bit late and he came by in a
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hurry down the hall and
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retraced his step and said,
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"Mr. Hiebert, yesterday you
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were not there.
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It was probably too dark for
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you to work."
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And my father said, "Yes, sir."
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But he thought, "What is he
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talking about, 'too dark to
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work?'"
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And all of a sudden he
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realized that that particular
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Sabbath it was raining, heavy
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rains and dark clouds and, not
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seeing my father at work, the
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officer thought to himself,
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"Oh, I told him that he had to
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do excellent work and it was
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too dark so he was not here."
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And so it was Sabbath number
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two was the dark day.
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Now, of course, we were
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wondering, "OK, could we
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escape that week?"
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But the battle was in such a
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way that the heaviest fighting
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was exactly in the corridor
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where we had to escape and so
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we knew that that was sure
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suicide.
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So one day to the next and
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another Friday came along and
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my father said, "Lord, I need
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another miracle."
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And so that day he was
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wondering what he should do,
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but he obeyed and put
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everything away, everything in
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its place, he locked the door
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and was ready to come home and
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that night the party chief was
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there a little bit later and
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he said, "Oh, Mr. Hiebert,
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tomorrow is a very special day."
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And my father agreed, tomorrow
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was the Sabbath, but that's
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not what the Communist Party
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chief had in mind.
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He said, "Tomorrow is a very
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special day, it's a secret
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Communist Party meeting in
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this building and we want no
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one here, including you.
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Is that understood?"
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"Yes, sir," said my father and
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with that he was so excited.
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Sabbath number three was the
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Communist Party meeting.
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So again, this time we had the
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blessing of the communist
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chief to keep the Sabbath
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while he just didn't know it.
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>> What if he asked the
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Communist Party chief, "Can I
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keep the Sabbath?"
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>> He would have been
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immediately either sent to
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Siberia or shot on the spot.
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>> What if they found out that
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he was keeping the Sabbath?
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>> Same thing.
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[MIKE] Same thing?
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>> Yes.
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So there was no possibility of
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even requesting it.
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We knew what the answer
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would be.
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[MIKE] Your story reminds me of
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a song that was written by one
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of our students, his name is
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Ben, and it was about the
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apostle Paul's words where he
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said, "I have fought a good
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fight, I have finished the
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race, I have kept the faith."
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中
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又uddenly it dawned upon me
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川hat this road I travel on
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儿s a pathway un-returning
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川hat my life will soon
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刃e gone
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丸et even now
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兀s I'm held captive
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七hrist's name I only praise
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三hese trials I'm facing
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子ast but a few days
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了or I know
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儿 fought a good fight
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乙nd I know that
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儿've kept the faith
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九ven though
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孑y destruction is at hand
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儿 can sing because I see
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川he truth has set me free
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乙nd I know I will
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子ive with Him one day
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叉ternally
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中
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九ven though it all
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山eems hopeless
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九ven though I'm
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川ightly bound
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儿 am strengthened
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孑y mind is free
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儿 know I am heaven bound
00:20:13.61\00:20:17.08
了or I know
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儿 fought a good fight
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乙nd I know
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儿've kept the faith
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九ven though
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孑y destruction is at hand
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儿 can sing because I see
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川he truth has set me free
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乙nd I know I will
00:20:37.97\00:20:40.27
子ive with Him one day
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叉ternally
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上hen Jesus comes again
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力ne bright and shining day
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人e'll take me by the hand
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兀nd I know I'll
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士ear Him say
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中
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上elcome home
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孑y precious child
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上elcome home
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孑y beloved friend
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九ven though the darkness
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寸ften seems too great
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儿 rejoice because
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巾ou've proved
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川hat you are strong and true
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又o come, enter in
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兀nd live with Me
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叉ternally
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>> Ben was walking along the
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Appian Way which, of course,
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is the road where the apostle
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Paul was walking along as he
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was on his way to Rome
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and to prison.
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And although he was a
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prisoner, he was free.
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Very much like Jacob Hiebert
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and his family.
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They were free even though
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they were refugees and
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prisoners within a
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war situation.
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And so what a miraculous story
00:22:30.15\00:22:32.75
listening to you, Jacob, and
00:22:32.75\00:22:35.38
continuing with your story.
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Thank you for sharing so much
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with us.
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>> Jacob, can you tell us how
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your life experiences affected
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your relationship with God?
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>> It-- I was-- I feel I have
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never been the same
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since then.
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We saw God's leading so many
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times, we trusted Him fully
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and He never let us down.
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It doesn't mean that
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everything went smoothly in
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our life, but God was there to
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watch over us and to
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protect us.
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And the one time, I remember,
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my father wanted to know, what
00:23:11.42\00:23:13.29
was the situation in the
00:23:13.29\00:23:14.89
world, where do we stand as
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far as the war is concerned
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and at that time he decided he
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would go to the marketplace.
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At that time, the marketplace
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was basically where everything
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happened.
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And so as he went to the
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marketplace and milled around
00:23:30.54\00:23:32.41
a little bit, his eyes fell on
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a news paper and it had big
00:23:35.61\00:23:37.71
letters, the heading was,
00:23:37.71\00:23:39.35
"Russia Has Religious Freedom."
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And he thought, "Well, that is
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tremendous!"
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And so he bought the paper,
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put it in his pocket, and came
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home and he said, "Now we're
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going to keep the Sabbath with
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the communist's blessing."
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Well, as we kept the Sabbath,
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of course, we enjoyed the
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Sabbath, but the next day
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there was a knock on our door
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and an officer was there from
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the Communist Party and he
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said, "Am I correct in saying
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that there was a worship
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service being held here
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yesterday?"
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"Yes, sir," said my father.
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"What? You're not afraid to
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say that?"
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"No," my father said and
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handed him the paper.
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He took the paper and he said,
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"This we have written for
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them, the rest of the world,
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but you should have known
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better."
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Now we realized that all that
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was propaganda and we did not
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have religious freedom after
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all, but God still took care
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of us.
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[MIKE] And all of this was
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happening for you because you
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trusted God's word, you
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trusted the Bible.
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[JACOB] Yes.
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>> Is there a favourite Bible
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verse for you particularly.
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>> Yes, there certainly is.
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Joshua 1, verse 9.
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>> And why is that your
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favourite Bible verse?
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[JACOB] Because we experienced
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that very thing.
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God was with us wherever we
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went, we did not have pie and
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ice cream everyday, but we
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were sustained and we thank
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the Lord for it.
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Because of these experiences,
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I have learned to appreciate
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the simpler things of life
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today.
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So many times we take a lot of
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blessings that we have for
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granted, but we need to
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realize that God is there
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with us all the time.
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He is more concerned about us
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than parents are for their
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children.
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>> God really does love us and
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I thank you for sharing your
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journey with us on It Is
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Written Canada and I wonder,
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Jacob, if you could finish
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with a word of prayer for us.
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>> Yes, I would be happy to.
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Our dear gracious heavenly
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Father, we do thank Thee so
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much that we are serving such
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a powerful God who cares more
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for His children than we as
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earthly parents can know.
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We thank Thee for watching
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over us and, Lord, half the
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time we may not know when Thou
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hast protected us and where
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Thou has kept us from all harm
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and danger.
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And I pray, Lord, that as
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these experiences are viewed
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and as people listen to my
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story, that they may be drawn
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closer to You, not to me the
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story-teller, but, Lord, for
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You, the Great Miracle Worker.
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Be with It Is Written Canada
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and, Lord, as the ministry
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goes on, we long for the day
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when Jesus will come and say,
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"Well done thou good and
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faithful servant."
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We pray all these blessings in
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Jesus' name, amen.
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>> Amen.
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>> Jacob, thank you so much
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for joining us on It Is
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Written Canada and for sharing
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your life experience, a story
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filled with miracles, and we
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are so honoured to have you on
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our program.
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>> It's been my privilege.
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>> Friends, our free offer
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today was written by Pastor
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Jacob Hiebert.
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It is his story entitled,
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Freedom's Journey.
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This book details the full
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story of how Jacob and his
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family were determined to
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follow God no matter what.
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>> Their heart-stopping
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journey displays the signs of
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God's hand leading His
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children in such a
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faith-building story.
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Freedom's Journey reveals how
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we serve a great God who is
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able to lead you, too, when
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you put your trust in Him.
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>> We want you to experience
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the truth that is found in the
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words of Jesus when He said,
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"It is written, 'Man shall not
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live by bread alone, but by
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every word that proceeds out
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of the mouth of God.'"
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中
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