Written Canada... 00:00:01.46\00:00:02.90 >> Can you take us back to the 00:00:02.90\00:00:06.57 miraculous story of your 00:00:06.57\00:00:09.10 escape as a family? 00:00:09.10\00:00:11.84 >> We need to lay plans to 00:00:11.84\00:00:14.54 escape, but it was easier said 00:00:14.54\00:00:16.41 than done. 00:00:16.41\00:00:17.75 Had we been caught there, I 00:00:17.75\00:00:19.68 would not be sitting here and 00:00:19.68\00:00:21.18 telling my story. 00:00:21.18\00:00:22.52 When we get to heaven we want 00:00:22.52\00:00:24.45 to ask which one of the angels 00:00:24.45\00:00:26.22 were sent. 00:00:26.22\00:00:27.69 It'll be interesting. 00:00:27.69\00:00:29.46 >> They wanted to take you 00:00:29.46\00:00:31.56 back, but you were stuck. 00:00:31.56\00:00:33.73 >> We had no country. 00:00:33.73\00:00:35.76 ¤¤ 00:00:37.47\00:01:12.00 >> Welcome to It Is Written 00:01:19.91\00:01:21.41 Canada. 00:01:21.41\00:01:22.81 Thank you for joining us. 00:01:22.81\00:01:24.68 Our special guest this week 00:01:24.68\00:01:26.41 again is Jacob Hiebert, a 00:01:26.41\00:01:28.62 successful businessman, 00:01:28.62\00:01:30.62 pastor, and administrator, 00:01:30.62\00:01:32.99 who lived during World War II 00:01:32.99\00:01:35.29 under the rule of communism, 00:01:35.29\00:01:37.29 when being a Christian 00:01:37.29\00:01:39.03 was illegal. 00:01:39.03\00:01:40.56 >> Though it was illegal to 00:01:40.56\00:01:42.36 practice Christianity, that 00:01:42.36\00:01:44.17 did not stop Jacob and 00:01:44.17\00:01:45.90 his family. 00:01:45.90\00:01:47.47 We are so excited for Jacob to 00:01:47.47\00:01:49.27 continue sharing his 00:01:49.27\00:01:50.77 miraculous story with us. 00:01:50.77\00:01:53.07 >> Jacob, welcome back to 00:01:54.48\00:01:56.18 It Is Written Canada. 00:01:56.18\00:01:58.41 >> I'm pleased to be with you 00:01:58.41\00:01:59.41 again today. 00:01:59.41\00:02:00.82 The next step was packing 00:02:01.82\00:02:03.85 everything up and going to 00:02:03.85\00:02:05.39 university. 00:02:05.39\00:02:06.96 Now, I had been out of school 00:02:06.96\00:02:08.79 for a number of years and I 00:02:08.79\00:02:11.39 was not used to the university 00:02:11.39\00:02:14.00 schedule. 00:02:14.00\00:02:16.36 There was reading, my first 00:02:16.36\00:02:18.50 class I had to read 40 pages, 00:02:18.50\00:02:20.84 fine print every day and then 00:02:20.84\00:02:23.71 came that first exam and I 00:02:23.71\00:02:25.77 said, "Lord, you've gotta 00:02:25.77\00:02:27.24 help me." 00:02:27.24\00:02:28.61 I remember opening the text 00:02:28.61\00:02:30.71 book and reading the 40 pages 00:02:30.71\00:02:33.38 and I closed the book and I 00:02:33.38\00:02:34.75 didn't remember a thing 00:02:34.75\00:02:36.22 I had read. 00:02:36.22\00:02:37.65 So I read the 40 pages again 00:02:37.65\00:02:40.09 and closed the book. 00:02:40.09\00:02:42.36 I couldn't tell you what 00:02:42.36\00:02:43.83 I read. 00:02:43.83\00:02:45.16 I said, "Lord, if this 00:02:45.16\00:02:46.36 continues, there's no way I 00:02:46.36\00:02:47.73 will make that exam." 00:02:47.73\00:02:50.13 So I studied very hard 'til 00:02:50.13\00:02:52.53 deep in the night and the next 00:02:52.53\00:02:54.57 morning I got up at 4:00 and I 00:02:54.57\00:02:57.47 studied and studied 00:02:57.47\00:02:58.54 and studied. 00:02:58.54\00:02:59.77 This was a history class. 00:02:59.77\00:03:01.44 I mixed up some of the dates 00:03:01.44\00:03:03.08 with events and I said, 00:03:03.08\00:03:05.11 "This is hopeless." 00:03:05.11\00:03:07.48 But I prayed and I said, 00:03:07.48\00:03:09.38 "Lord, I have done my best, 00:03:09.38\00:03:11.69 I couldn't do anything more. 00:03:11.69\00:03:14.32 You've gotta help me." 00:03:14.32\00:03:16.32 So as I went into the class, 00:03:16.32\00:03:19.96 just before we knelt down and 00:03:19.96\00:03:21.86 prayed, we said, "Lord, it's 00:03:21.86\00:03:23.43 all up to You." 00:03:23.43\00:03:25.53 So I went to the class, I 00:03:25.53\00:03:27.67 looked at the paper and I 00:03:27.67\00:03:29.57 remember the teacher saying, 00:03:29.57\00:03:31.87 "We're going to have a word of 00:03:31.87\00:03:33.34 prayer before you start. 00:03:33.34\00:03:35.84 For those of you who have 00:03:35.84\00:03:37.41 studied, we will ask the Lord 00:03:37.41\00:03:39.71 to help you remember what you 00:03:39.71\00:03:41.58 studied, for those of you who 00:03:41.58\00:03:43.62 didn't, there's no hope." 00:03:43.62\00:03:45.72 Well, I knew I had studied and 00:03:45.72\00:03:48.26 so the exam papers were 00:03:48.26\00:03:51.63 passed out. 00:03:51.63\00:03:53.03 As I looked at the first 00:03:53.03\00:03:54.46 question, the answer came just 00:03:54.46\00:03:55.73 like a flash, the second 00:03:55.73\00:03:57.53 question likewise, and the 00:03:57.53\00:03:59.20 third and so forth and I was 00:03:59.20\00:04:00.90 just amazed. 00:04:00.90\00:04:02.70 And needless to say, at the 00:04:02.70\00:04:04.54 end when I got my results 00:04:04.54\00:04:06.54 back, I was at the top end of 00:04:06.54\00:04:08.54 a class of a hundred students. 00:04:08.54\00:04:10.71 God had certainly performed a 00:04:12.21\00:04:14.28 miracle and the start has been 00:04:14.28\00:04:16.65 made and now I was ready 00:04:16.65\00:04:18.72 to go on. 00:04:18.72\00:04:20.06 >> Jacob, I just loved your 00:04:20.59\00:04:22.16 book, we have a copy of it 00:04:22.16\00:04:23.63 right here with us, Freedom's 00:04:23.63\00:04:25.43 Journey, and when I started 00:04:25.43\00:04:28.40 reading it, I had a real hard 00:04:28.40\00:04:30.33 time putting it down. 00:04:30.33\00:04:31.80 So can you tell us what 00:04:31.80\00:04:33.84 prompted you to write 00:04:33.84\00:04:35.64 this book? 00:04:35.64\00:04:36.64 >> As a minister, I would 00:04:37.41\00:04:39.34 share several parts of this 00:04:39.34\00:04:41.58 experience in my sermons and 00:04:41.58\00:04:44.75 quite often people would say, 00:04:44.75\00:04:47.25 "You've gotta write this 00:04:47.25\00:04:48.52 in a book." 00:04:48.52\00:04:49.82 One of the motivating factors 00:04:49.82\00:04:51.75 was my children and my family. 00:04:51.75\00:04:54.69 There were many who were 00:04:54.69\00:04:56.36 discouraged quite often and 00:04:56.36\00:04:57.83 they felt, "Does God really 00:04:57.83\00:05:00.20 care? 00:05:00.20\00:05:01.56 Does He-- will He always 00:05:01.56\00:05:03.03 answer us? 00:05:03.03\00:05:04.43 How will it fair for us in the 00:05:04.43\00:05:05.70 end time and before Jesus 00:05:05.70\00:05:08.30 comes," and so forth. 00:05:08.30\00:05:10.34 And so I felt that I needed to 00:05:10.34\00:05:12.87 share this with our believers. 00:05:12.87\00:05:15.88 And so I started writing the 00:05:15.88\00:05:17.65 book, I wrote about three 00:05:17.65\00:05:19.61 chapters and then last year in 00:05:19.61\00:05:23.39 the winter time, I decided, 00:05:23.39\00:05:25.35 "This is it, I have to finish 00:05:25.35\00:05:26.96 the book." 00:05:26.96\00:05:27.96 So I finished it in 2020 and 00:05:28.86\00:05:34.30 this year in January it came 00:05:34.30\00:05:36.43 off the press and I was 00:05:36.43\00:05:38.27 delighted to do that and since 00:05:38.27\00:05:40.17 that time, I want you to know 00:05:40.17\00:05:43.17 that I do not feel that I am 00:05:43.17\00:05:44.71 the hero of the book. 00:05:44.71\00:05:46.71 As I was writing the book, the 00:05:46.71\00:05:49.81 writing flowed and I knew that 00:05:49.81\00:05:52.61 God was leading. 00:05:52.61\00:05:54.88 And so I take no credit for 00:05:54.88\00:05:57.35 this book and I feel that the 00:05:57.35\00:06:00.79 experiences we went through 00:06:00.79\00:06:02.92 were life-changing for me and 00:06:02.92\00:06:06.49 I hope that those who read the 00:06:06.49\00:06:08.40 book will experience the 00:06:08.40\00:06:11.03 same thing. 00:06:11.03\00:06:12.60 >> The book is entitled, 00:06:12.60\00:06:14.24 Freedom's Journey. 00:06:14.24\00:06:15.74 Why did you choose that title? 00:06:15.74\00:06:17.51 [JACOB] Freedom is relative. 00:06:18.64\00:06:20.34 I was born in a country where 00:06:20.34\00:06:22.08 there was no freedom. 00:06:22.08\00:06:23.58 In Canada we have quite a bit 00:06:24.61\00:06:27.25 of freedom. 00:06:27.25\00:06:28.65 There are many countries that 00:06:28.65\00:06:29.82 have limited freedom. 00:06:29.82\00:06:31.82 But I believe that all of us 00:06:31.82\00:06:34.49 are on a journey of freedom. 00:06:34.49\00:06:37.23 And there are two aspects of 00:06:37.23\00:06:40.53 this; we want freedom in this 00:06:40.53\00:06:42.00 world, but true freedom 00:06:42.00\00:06:44.53 actually is in God's kingdom. 00:06:44.53\00:06:47.60 In John 8:32 Jesus said He 00:06:47.60\00:06:52.61 wants us to know the truth and 00:06:52.61\00:06:55.51 the truth shall make you free. 00:06:55.51\00:06:57.85 >> Jacob, you came to Canada, 00:06:58.81\00:07:01.28 experienced freedom and it was 00:07:01.28\00:07:03.65 spiritual freedom, but it was 00:07:03.65\00:07:05.35 also political freedom that 00:07:05.35\00:07:06.92 you had experienced coming 00:07:06.92\00:07:08.46 here, but it was very 00:07:08.46\00:07:09.82 different from what the 00:07:09.82\00:07:11.63 Canadian kids experienced. 00:07:11.63\00:07:13.66 They went through a war, but 00:07:13.66\00:07:15.06 they didn't see war. 00:07:15.06\00:07:16.33 You saw war. 00:07:16.33\00:07:17.73 What was that like? 00:07:17.73\00:07:19.33 >> War was all around us and 00:07:19.33\00:07:21.50 every night when we went to 00:07:21.50\00:07:23.37 bed, we would not sure whether 00:07:23.37\00:07:25.64 we would be struck by bombs or 00:07:25.64\00:07:29.51 whatever happened. 00:07:29.51\00:07:31.55 And so one time a big bomb 00:07:31.55\00:07:35.62 fell just some feet from where 00:07:35.62\00:07:38.32 our house was. 00:07:38.32\00:07:39.89 All the windows were knocked 00:07:39.89\00:07:41.36 out and the crater was about 00:07:41.36\00:07:43.46 six feet deep. 00:07:43.46\00:07:45.29 Had this hit where we were, I 00:07:46.23\00:07:48.70 wouldn't be telling the 00:07:48.70\00:07:50.20 story here. 00:07:50.20\00:07:52.13 Later, when I came to Canada 00:07:52.13\00:07:55.17 and a plane would go overhead, 00:07:55.17\00:07:57.67 I would kind of shrug back and 00:07:57.67\00:08:00.61 my friends, they laughed at 00:08:00.61\00:08:02.44 me, they said, "What's the 00:08:02.44\00:08:03.55 matter with you? 00:08:03.55\00:08:04.91 Have you never seen a plane?" 00:08:04.91\00:08:06.45 The fact was I saw more planes 00:08:06.45\00:08:08.35 than they had and more 00:08:08.35\00:08:10.59 dangerous planes, but after a 00:08:10.59\00:08:13.32 few years my nerves healed and 00:08:13.32\00:08:15.92 I did not respond quite that 00:08:15.92\00:08:17.73 way anymore. 00:08:17.73\00:08:19.03 >> So, Jacob, can you tell us 00:08:20.26\00:08:22.50 a little bit more about your 00:08:22.50\00:08:25.17 early years living in a 00:08:25.17\00:08:27.00 communist country? 00:08:27.00\00:08:28.50 >> Yes, war was all around. 00:08:29.34\00:08:31.84 We were refugees and if you 00:08:31.84\00:08:33.61 understand the life of a 00:08:33.61\00:08:35.61 refugee, you never know, you 00:08:35.61\00:08:38.48 don't have money, you never 00:08:38.48\00:08:39.91 know where your next meal 00:08:39.91\00:08:41.52 comes from, if you had money, 00:08:41.52\00:08:43.32 most of the stores were not 00:08:43.32\00:08:44.75 open, at that time you 00:08:44.75\00:08:46.35 couldn't buy. 00:08:46.35\00:08:47.89 There were many times where we 00:08:47.89\00:08:49.42 had to resort to a very 00:08:49.42\00:08:51.63 humiliating experience of 00:08:51.63\00:08:53.63 begging for food. 00:08:53.63\00:08:55.33 And us children, we were the 00:08:55.83\00:08:58.43 best in doing that because the 00:08:58.43\00:09:02.04 people would not give to adults, 00:09:02.04\00:09:04.24 but they could not refuse 00:09:04.24\00:09:06.04 children, even the Russian 00:09:06.04\00:09:08.34 soldiers were kind many times, 00:09:08.34\00:09:10.55 much kinder to children than 00:09:10.55\00:09:12.08 they were to the adults. 00:09:12.08\00:09:13.82 And so we went through that. 00:09:13.82\00:09:15.72 I remember on this occasion 00:09:15.72\00:09:17.92 my aunt became desperately 00:09:17.92\00:09:19.52 sick and she was bed-ridden 00:09:19.52\00:09:22.16 for a couple weeks. 00:09:22.16\00:09:23.86 We were so thankful that we 00:09:23.86\00:09:25.66 did not have to move on on the 00:09:25.66\00:09:28.43 journey because many times we 00:09:28.43\00:09:30.20 would travel 30 kilometres 00:09:30.20\00:09:31.97 a day. 00:09:31.97\00:09:32.90 Our heals would be full of 00:09:32.90\00:09:35.54 blisters and we just-- I asked 00:09:35.54\00:09:38.61 my mother at this time, I 00:09:38.61\00:09:40.28 said, "Mother, when is God 00:09:40.28\00:09:42.28 ever going to give us a home 00:09:42.28\00:09:43.71 again of our own?" 00:09:43.71\00:09:45.08 My father-- my brother found a 00:09:46.35\00:09:48.82 little wagon and he fixed it 00:09:48.82\00:09:50.69 up and as we were going along, 00:09:50.69\00:09:53.25 every one of us had a little 00:09:53.25\00:09:54.86 bundle to carry and so I was 00:09:54.86\00:09:57.46 able to place that bundle on 00:09:57.46\00:09:58.96 the wagon and I had renewed 00:09:58.96\00:10:01.56 excitement and strength and 00:10:01.56\00:10:03.87 carried on, was way ahead of 00:10:03.87\00:10:05.63 the rest. 00:10:05.63\00:10:06.63 But every day was a new 00:10:06.63\00:10:11.17 experience and we were 00:10:11.17\00:10:13.71 fearful, yes, we trusted in 00:10:13.71\00:10:15.51 God, but fear was everywhere. 00:10:15.51\00:10:18.85 We could not trust anyone. 00:10:18.85\00:10:20.85 We had to be careful of what 00:10:20.85\00:10:22.82 we said because people at that 00:10:22.82\00:10:24.79 time quite often reported one 00:10:24.79\00:10:26.89 another for benefits with the 00:10:26.89\00:10:29.22 Russians and we did not wanna 00:10:29.22\00:10:32.23 go there, but God was so 00:10:32.23\00:10:34.73 wonderful in bringing us 00:10:34.73\00:10:36.73 through this entire experience. 00:10:36.73\00:10:38.60 My mother was, as I look back 00:10:39.93\00:10:43.14 on that now as an adult, my 00:10:43.14\00:10:45.64 mother was just fantastic. 00:10:45.64\00:10:48.41 Her strength never gave out 00:10:48.41\00:10:50.68 and she was a very small, 00:10:50.68\00:10:52.48 frail woman, my dad was a big 00:10:52.48\00:10:54.78 man like myself, but my mother 00:10:54.78\00:10:57.15 was frail and small. 00:10:57.15\00:10:59.39 But her faith in God and she 00:10:59.39\00:11:01.29 was a giant. 00:11:01.29\00:11:02.79 And so I owe a lot to her-- my 00:11:03.89\00:11:06.70 mother at that time. 00:11:06.70\00:11:08.60 She saw us through these hard 00:11:09.46\00:11:11.70 times and there's so much more 00:11:11.70\00:11:14.40 that could be said there, but... 00:11:14.40\00:11:16.20 ...war cannot be explained, 00:11:17.57\00:11:19.77 it has to be experienced. 00:11:19.77\00:11:21.84 It was after that that we were 00:11:23.41\00:11:26.41 getting close to Poland and, 00:11:26.41\00:11:29.75 again, I'd like to mention 00:11:29.75\00:11:32.29 that we never knew when we 00:11:32.29\00:11:34.46 would have to walk and travel 00:11:34.46\00:11:36.93 on and when we could stay. 00:11:36.93\00:11:39.43 That was never our choice. 00:11:39.43\00:11:41.13 The Russian soldiers might 00:11:41.13\00:11:42.50 come along and say, "It's time 00:11:42.50\00:11:44.20 to move on, you're in our road 00:11:44.20\00:11:45.70 here, the battle is coming, 00:11:45.70\00:11:47.34 you need to move." 00:11:47.34\00:11:49.07 And as we would go, it was 00:11:49.07\00:11:50.57 very interesting, we would 00:11:50.57\00:11:52.61 take shelter in the evening 00:11:52.61\00:11:54.74 wherever we could find it. 00:11:54.74\00:11:56.68 Many of the refugees were 00:11:56.68\00:11:58.65 forced to leave their home and 00:11:58.65\00:12:00.55 in one case they had to leave 00:12:00.55\00:12:02.25 their home while they were 00:12:02.25\00:12:03.85 eating and the soup was still 00:12:03.85\00:12:05.92 on the table and warm and we 00:12:05.92\00:12:07.46 were the next one that 00:12:07.46\00:12:09.19 followed, we were hungry and 00:12:09.19\00:12:10.93 we ate the soup. 00:12:10.93\00:12:13.46 So it's amazing how God 00:12:13.46\00:12:15.26 watched over us. 00:12:15.26\00:12:16.93 And as we travelled, rain or 00:12:16.93\00:12:18.77 shine, many times it rained 00:12:18.77\00:12:22.37 like it did here yesterday and 00:12:22.37\00:12:25.24 we were wet. 00:12:25.24\00:12:26.78 We had our clothes on and a 00:12:26.78\00:12:28.94 few other clothes to change in 00:12:28.94\00:12:30.51 a little bundle that we 00:12:30.51\00:12:32.21 carried and so what would 00:12:32.21\00:12:34.62 happen is as soon as the sun 00:12:34.62\00:12:36.69 came out, we would take off 00:12:36.69\00:12:38.59 our wet clothes, we went in a 00:12:38.59\00:12:40.22 ditch, took off the wet 00:12:40.22\00:12:41.79 clothes, took the dry clothes 00:12:41.79\00:12:43.63 out of the bundle, and the wet 00:12:43.63\00:12:45.73 clothes we hung on a fence and 00:12:45.73\00:12:48.03 the refugees that came 00:12:48.03\00:12:49.66 afterwards, they took our dry 00:12:49.66\00:12:51.57 clothes that we had left there. 00:12:51.57\00:12:53.87 Life was interesting, it was 00:12:53.87\00:12:55.70 the survival of the fittest, 00:12:55.70\00:12:57.31 but God saw us through in a 00:12:57.31\00:12:58.64 marvellous way. 00:12:58.64\00:12:59.77 At this time my father was not 00:12:59.77\00:13:01.48 with us, we were separated 00:13:01.48\00:13:02.91 from him, not because of our 00:13:02.91\00:13:04.51 choice, but because of the 00:13:04.51\00:13:06.05 communist leaders. 00:13:06.05\00:13:08.22 The first time he was gone 00:13:08.22\00:13:09.82 from us for six months and the 00:13:09.82\00:13:11.89 second time he was gone from 00:13:11.89\00:13:13.79 us for a year and three months. 00:13:13.79\00:13:16.42 At this time we did not know 00:13:16.42\00:13:18.26 whether he was alive, where he 00:13:18.26\00:13:20.36 was, or anything about him and 00:13:20.36\00:13:22.86 it was especially hard for my 00:13:22.86\00:13:24.93 mother since she took up the 00:13:24.93\00:13:26.80 challenge of being the head of 00:13:26.80\00:13:28.30 the household. 00:13:28.30\00:13:29.40 >> Jacob, it must have been so 00:13:30.57\00:13:32.41 terrible for your family to be 00:13:32.41\00:13:34.21 separated from your father. 00:13:34.21\00:13:36.41 Can you please share with us 00:13:36.41\00:13:38.08 some experiences of your 00:13:38.08\00:13:39.95 heavenly Father taking care of 00:13:39.95\00:13:41.92 your family while your earthly 00:13:41.92\00:13:43.59 father was away? 00:13:43.59\00:13:45.25 >> Yes, there were challenges, 00:13:46.42\00:13:48.52 but God came through us every 00:13:48.52\00:13:50.86 day and I must say that God's 00:13:50.86\00:13:53.63 timing was precise. 00:13:53.63\00:13:56.26 We were hungry, yes, but we 00:13:56.26\00:13:59.20 were never-- we never did 00:13:59.20\00:14:01.60 starve and we might not have 00:14:01.60\00:14:04.61 had a choice of certain foods, 00:14:04.61\00:14:07.31 but we always survived and God 00:14:07.31\00:14:09.34 took care of us. 00:14:09.34\00:14:11.55 And my mother did a tremendous 00:14:11.55\00:14:13.52 job in caring for us. 00:14:13.52\00:14:16.58 One of the greatest challenges 00:14:16.58\00:14:18.29 was my sister and her welfare. 00:14:18.29\00:14:21.26 The Russian soldiers did not 00:14:21.26\00:14:22.99 have any concern about life in 00:14:22.99\00:14:27.60 general or concerns of people 00:14:27.60\00:14:31.67 and a lot of the ladies, girls 00:14:31.67\00:14:35.97 in that area were mistreated. 00:14:35.97\00:14:39.41 And so my mother prayed and 00:14:39.41\00:14:41.84 she said, "Lord, save my only 00:14:41.84\00:14:44.31 daughter that nothing would 00:14:44.31\00:14:46.18 happen to her." 00:14:46.18\00:14:47.85 And so on one occasion as she 00:14:47.85\00:14:50.69 was there with these burdens, 00:14:50.69\00:14:55.32 one of the soldiers came along 00:14:55.32\00:14:58.26 and he wanted to know whether 00:14:58.26\00:15:01.23 there were girls there and in 00:15:01.23\00:15:02.93 this home that we stayed at, 00:15:02.93\00:15:05.87 there were several families. 00:15:05.87\00:15:07.64 Quite often if we had a bigger 00:15:07.64\00:15:09.44 home there would be several 00:15:09.44\00:15:12.94 families that would live there, 00:15:12.94\00:15:15.18 some would have one room, 00:15:15.18\00:15:16.58 others two, and so forth. 00:15:16.58\00:15:18.28 And so many times as the 00:15:18.28\00:15:21.58 soldiers came to molest the 00:15:21.58\00:15:23.42 girls, the older ladies would 00:15:23.42\00:15:28.56 sleep in front and have the 00:15:28.56\00:15:30.69 young girls in the back and 00:15:30.69\00:15:33.86 many of the girls resorted to 00:15:33.86\00:15:35.90 putting some ashes on their 00:15:35.90\00:15:37.57 face to make them look a little 00:15:37.57\00:15:39.17 older and that saved in 00:15:39.17\00:15:41.77 some cases. 00:15:41.77\00:15:43.20 One time a soldier came while 00:15:44.17\00:15:46.61 my mother was in charge there 00:15:46.61\00:15:48.41 and, actually, there were a 00:15:48.41\00:15:50.55 couple soldiers that came, and 00:15:50.55\00:15:52.65 they insisted that they would 00:15:52.65\00:15:55.62 see the girls that are there. 00:15:55.62\00:15:57.39 Now, there were about five 00:15:57.39\00:15:59.49 girls in that area and what we 00:15:59.49\00:16:01.59 found out later was that a 00:16:01.59\00:16:04.43 lady, well in her years, 00:16:04.43\00:16:08.36 across the road, decided that 00:16:08.36\00:16:10.27 she needed to have some 00:16:10.27\00:16:11.73 favours from the Russians. 00:16:11.73\00:16:13.47 So she told on us and said, 00:16:13.47\00:16:16.30 "In that house over there, 00:16:16.30\00:16:17.81 there are at least six girls, 00:16:17.81\00:16:19.37 young girls." 00:16:19.37\00:16:20.81 And so the soldiers came and, 00:16:20.81\00:16:23.81 of course, by this time we had 00:16:23.81\00:16:25.71 hidden my sister and the other 00:16:25.71\00:16:27.62 girls up in the attic and 00:16:27.62\00:16:29.52 there was only a ladder going 00:16:29.52\00:16:31.39 straight up to the attic and a 00:16:31.39\00:16:33.19 trap door and as long as the 00:16:33.19\00:16:34.72 soldiers didn't detect 00:16:34.72\00:16:36.59 anything, nobody one would 00:16:36.59\00:16:38.39 know that the girls were there. 00:16:38.39\00:16:40.30 And so they searched 00:16:40.30\00:16:41.66 everything and found no girls. 00:16:41.66\00:16:44.43 Then they left and went back 00:16:44.43\00:16:46.30 to this lady and said, "You 00:16:46.30\00:16:47.57 lied, you told us that there 00:16:47.57\00:16:48.87 are girls there, there are no 00:16:48.87\00:16:50.11 girls there." 00:16:50.11\00:16:51.21 She said, "You go back. 00:16:51.21\00:16:52.87 They are there." 00:16:52.87\00:16:55.18 And so they came back and they 00:16:55.18\00:16:57.38 shot with their guns in the 00:16:57.38\00:16:58.88 ceiling and, of course, the 00:16:58.88\00:17:00.72 girls screamed and then they 00:17:00.72\00:17:02.72 realized the girls were up 00:17:02.72\00:17:04.39 there and they ordered all of 00:17:04.39\00:17:06.15 the girls to come down, to 00:17:06.15\00:17:08.22 drop down. 00:17:08.22\00:17:10.33 They took the ladder away and 00:17:10.33\00:17:12.49 my sister was one that dropped 00:17:12.49\00:17:14.36 down and there was a crate and 00:17:14.36\00:17:16.30 she hit that crate with her 00:17:16.30\00:17:18.60 back and she has, throughout 00:17:18.60\00:17:20.27 her lifetime, she's had a 00:17:20.27\00:17:21.67 problem with her back. 00:17:21.67\00:17:23.91 But as that happened, then of 00:17:23.91\00:17:26.47 course, again, it was God's 00:17:26.47\00:17:28.61 leading, my sister was very 00:17:28.61\00:17:30.88 sick after that, they took the 00:17:30.88\00:17:32.78 other girls and dear knows 00:17:32.78\00:17:34.72 whatever happened with them. 00:17:34.72\00:17:36.65 But my sister was in pain and 00:17:36.65\00:17:38.95 the Russians had no sense for 00:17:38.95\00:17:42.22 that so they left her alone. 00:17:42.22\00:17:44.79 But afterwards they came back 00:17:44.79\00:17:46.76 and checked on her and one 00:17:46.76\00:17:48.50 soldier in particular came 00:17:48.50\00:17:51.50 and he-- it was obvious what 00:17:51.50\00:17:53.80 he had in mind and my sister 00:17:53.80\00:17:56.74 then, I think God gave her the 00:17:56.74\00:17:58.64 words to speak, my sister 00:17:58.64\00:18:00.61 said, "You know, I have read 00:18:00.61\00:18:02.74 about Mr. Stalin and Mr. Stalin 00:18:02.74\00:18:05.71 loves children and if he knew 00:18:05.71\00:18:08.22 what was in your mind today, 00:18:08.22\00:18:10.52 he would not approve of this 00:18:10.52\00:18:12.42 and you should be ashamed of 00:18:12.42\00:18:14.22 yourself to do this." 00:18:14.22\00:18:16.32 Well, he listened to that and 00:18:16.32\00:18:17.96 he then turned his mind around 00:18:17.96\00:18:21.46 and he said, "Oh," he said, 00:18:21.46\00:18:23.26 "I will protect you." 00:18:23.26\00:18:25.27 And so, as he stayed there, my 00:18:25.27\00:18:27.27 sister came up with a plan 00:18:27.27\00:18:28.67 that I thought was really 00:18:28.67\00:18:30.31 unique, she gave him a Bible 00:18:30.31\00:18:32.21 study and he listened and my 00:18:32.21\00:18:35.38 sister was waxing eloquently 00:18:35.38\00:18:38.38 in her Bible study and so as a 00:18:38.38\00:18:40.78 result of this, the soldier 00:18:40.78\00:18:43.22 made a complete turn-around, 00:18:43.22\00:18:44.85 he said, "Look, I'm sorry. 00:18:44.85\00:18:47.26 We will not hurt you and I 00:18:47.26\00:18:48.89 promise I will protect you." 00:18:48.89\00:18:51.69 And after that, several 00:18:51.69\00:18:53.76 soldiers came and he made sure 00:18:53.76\00:18:56.10 that they did not molest 00:18:56.10\00:18:57.63 my sister. 00:18:57.63\00:18:59.23 And so it's marvellous how God 00:19:00.34\00:19:03.77 led in this experience. 00:19:03.77\00:19:06.31 Shortly after this, we were in 00:19:07.51\00:19:09.81 the area of Poland, we were 00:19:09.81\00:19:11.65 getting close to the East 00:19:11.65\00:19:13.98 German border and we had a 00:19:13.98\00:19:16.95 remarkable experience that 00:19:16.95\00:19:18.79 pertained to my sister in 00:19:18.79\00:19:20.12 particular. 00:19:20.12\00:19:21.56 For some reason or other, two 00:19:21.56\00:19:23.93 large sores developed on her 00:19:23.93\00:19:26.43 leg and her shin and they 00:19:26.43\00:19:28.73 became putrefying and they 00:19:28.73\00:19:30.63 were deep, right into the bone. 00:19:30.63\00:19:33.30 We managed to find a doctor to 00:19:33.30\00:19:35.90 check her out and he said, "We 00:19:35.90\00:19:37.84 may have to amputate her leg 00:19:37.84\00:19:39.77 because the sores are so bad, 00:19:39.77\00:19:42.81 in order to save her life, we 00:19:42.81\00:19:44.38 may have to amputate." 00:19:44.38\00:19:45.58 Well, we didn't want to 00:19:45.58\00:19:46.82 hear that. 00:19:46.82\00:19:47.85 And so around that same time, 00:19:47.85\00:19:51.72 we found ourselves, of course, 00:19:51.72\00:19:53.79 in German occupation at this 00:19:53.79\00:19:55.76 time so Hitler and his 00:19:55.76\00:19:57.59 soldiers were in charge and 00:19:57.59\00:19:59.59 you might say that we should 00:19:59.59\00:20:01.40 have had nothing to fear from, 00:20:01.40\00:20:03.43 but war is bad no matter who's 00:20:03.43\00:20:05.27 in charge, whether it's the 00:20:05.27\00:20:06.74 Germans or the Russians, war 00:20:06.74\00:20:08.44 is hell, as they say. 00:20:08.44\00:20:10.51 And so the Germans had a rule 00:20:11.67\00:20:13.64 that they needed to uplift the 00:20:13.64\00:20:16.51 Führer, Adolph Hitler. 00:20:16.51\00:20:18.95 And so in order to do that, 00:20:18.95\00:20:21.22 they organized classes. 00:20:21.22\00:20:22.78 All the youth were required to 00:20:22.78\00:20:24.89 attend these classes and my 00:20:24.89\00:20:26.72 sister was of the age that she 00:20:26.72\00:20:29.42 had to be one of them that 00:20:29.42\00:20:31.09 would attend. 00:20:31.09\00:20:32.26 In these classes they would 00:20:33.23\00:20:34.73 promote the leader, which was 00:20:34.73\00:20:36.80 Hitler, and they put Hitler 00:20:36.80\00:20:38.60 above God. 00:20:38.60\00:20:40.54 In this time we were always, 00:20:40.54\00:20:43.71 as it is customary, you would 00:20:43.71\00:20:45.44 greet each other "Good 00:20:45.44\00:20:46.81 morning," but not so, your 00:20:46.81\00:20:49.11 first greeting was, "Heil 00:20:49.11\00:20:51.18 Hitler" and the second 00:20:51.18\00:20:53.18 greeting was "Good morning." 00:20:53.18\00:20:55.52 And so in these classes they-- 00:20:55.52\00:21:00.49 there was a lot of propaganda 00:21:00.49\00:21:02.26 there about Germany, Germany 00:21:02.26\00:21:04.39 would win the war and they 00:21:04.39\00:21:06.59 even had a song, "Today 00:21:06.59\00:21:08.86 Germany, tomorrow the world." 00:21:08.86\00:21:11.57 And so the young people were 00:21:11.57\00:21:14.34 psyched up that Germany would 00:21:14.34\00:21:16.34 win the war. 00:21:16.34\00:21:18.54 My sister, of course, couldn't 00:21:18.54\00:21:20.41 attend and the S.S. officers 00:21:20.41\00:21:23.08 came to check on why she 00:21:23.08\00:21:24.91 wasn't there. 00:21:24.91\00:21:26.21 Well, they looked at her leg, 00:21:26.21\00:21:27.92 "Oh, that's no excuse, you 00:21:27.92\00:21:29.68 have to come no matter what 00:21:29.68\00:21:31.99 unless you have a certificate 00:21:31.99\00:21:33.79 from the doctor, you are 00:21:33.79\00:21:35.16 not excused." 00:21:35.16\00:21:36.49 Well, we quickly talked to the 00:21:36.49\00:21:38.39 doctor again and he said, 00:21:38.39\00:21:40.00 "This is serious, I will give 00:21:40.00\00:21:42.23 you a certificate." 00:21:42.23\00:21:44.47 So because of the certificate 00:21:44.47\00:21:46.13 from the doctor and my 00:21:46.13\00:21:47.60 sister's sores on her leg, 00:21:47.60\00:21:49.60 she did not attend one of 00:21:49.60\00:21:51.44 those classes. 00:21:51.44\00:21:53.74 Well, suddenly, almost without 00:21:53.74\00:21:55.71 notice, the Russians regrouped 00:21:55.71\00:21:58.11 themselves and chased the 00:21:58.11\00:21:59.65 Germans out and the war at 00:21:59.65\00:22:02.52 that point was almost at an 00:22:02.52\00:22:04.39 end and all of a sudden then, 00:22:04.39\00:22:08.66 as the Russians came in, they 00:22:08.66\00:22:10.99 had been told about the Hitler 00:22:10.99\00:22:12.93 youth and how these Hitler 00:22:12.93\00:22:14.66 youth were all for Hitler. 00:22:14.66\00:22:17.40 And so they decided they would 00:22:17.40\00:22:19.30 make short work of that so 00:22:19.30\00:22:21.24 they rounded up all the young 00:22:21.24\00:22:22.80 people that were in the Hitler 00:22:22.80\00:22:24.54 youth class and sent them 00:22:24.54\00:22:26.04 to Siberia. 00:22:26.04\00:22:27.78 My father heard about this, 00:22:27.78\00:22:29.91 but he didn't know where we 00:22:29.91\00:22:31.48 were and he heard about all 00:22:31.48\00:22:32.95 these young people being sent 00:22:32.95\00:22:34.78 to Siberia and he was afraid. 00:22:34.78\00:22:36.65 He said, "Lord, I hope my 00:22:36.65\00:22:38.29 daughter, my only daughter, is 00:22:38.29\00:22:39.65 not amongst them." 00:22:39.65\00:22:41.92 It was within days, literally, 00:22:41.92\00:22:45.46 that the sores on my sister's 00:22:45.46\00:22:49.33 leg were healed, dried up, and 00:22:49.33\00:22:52.60 today you can still see them, 00:22:52.60\00:22:54.57 she's 94 years old today, but 00:22:54.57\00:22:56.34 you can still see those marks 00:22:56.34\00:22:58.01 on her foot. 00:22:58.01\00:22:59.71 But everything healed up and 00:22:59.71\00:23:01.68 there was no more problem and 00:23:01.68\00:23:03.38 she still has both of her legs. 00:23:03.38\00:23:05.51 >> God protected her life by 00:23:05.51\00:23:07.82 giving her those sores on her 00:23:07.82\00:23:09.32 legs so that she didn't 00:23:09.32\00:23:10.92 actually go to Siberia... 00:23:10.92\00:23:12.19 [JACOB] Yes. 00:23:12.19\00:23:13.29 >> ...and she didn't attend 00:23:13.29\00:23:14.42 the Hitler youth classes. 00:23:14.42\00:23:15.69 >> This is why I say God's 00:23:15.69\00:23:17.46 timing is just fantastic. 00:23:17.46\00:23:19.69 >> So another miracle God 00:23:20.93\00:23:24.27 performed for you. 00:23:24.27\00:23:26.33 Jacob, can you share with us 00:23:26.33\00:23:28.57 another miraculous story of 00:23:28.57\00:23:31.41 how God reunited your family 00:23:31.41\00:23:34.44 with your father again? 00:23:34.44\00:23:36.24 >> Yes, this happened in 1946, 00:23:37.55\00:23:40.22 the war was over and it was a 00:23:40.22\00:23:44.85 real burden for my father to 00:23:44.85\00:23:47.06 find out where are we. 00:23:47.06\00:23:48.92 And, of course, as I mentioned 00:23:48.92\00:23:50.63 before, we had a plan that we 00:23:50.63\00:23:52.26 would write to our 00:23:52.26\00:23:53.90 headquarters office and so my 00:23:53.90\00:23:55.66 father decided to implement 00:23:55.66\00:23:57.43 that at this point and my 00:23:57.43\00:24:00.94 mother decided to do the same, 00:24:00.94\00:24:03.84 but somehow nothing happened. 00:24:03.84\00:24:06.41 The letters did not seem to 00:24:06.41\00:24:09.28 get there and we didn't hear 00:24:09.28\00:24:10.68 anything about what happened 00:24:10.68\00:24:12.51 to my father and some of us, 00:24:12.51\00:24:14.82 my brother said, "Well, maybe 00:24:14.82\00:24:16.38 he's not alive anymore. 00:24:16.38\00:24:17.89 How do we know where he is?" 00:24:17.89\00:24:20.32 But anyway, one day my father 00:24:20.32\00:24:25.43 decided that he needs to go in 00:24:25.43\00:24:28.50 earnest to look for his family. 00:24:28.50\00:24:30.70 Now, at this point, after the 00:24:30.70\00:24:32.50 war, a year after the war, the 00:24:32.50\00:24:34.60 Russians being in charge, they 00:24:34.60\00:24:36.94 assigned everyone to a job and 00:24:36.94\00:24:40.31 my father was assigned to a 00:24:40.31\00:24:41.91 certain job as well and it was 00:24:41.91\00:24:44.05 miraculous, it was God's 00:24:44.05\00:24:45.71 leading where he was placed. 00:24:45.71\00:24:48.12 He was placed by a factory 00:24:48.12\00:24:49.75 owner that had a factory that 00:24:49.75\00:24:54.86 made chocolates and jams. 00:24:54.86\00:24:58.79 But during the war, it was a 00:24:58.79\00:25:01.30 free-for-all and so they had 00:25:01.30\00:25:03.47 to be very secret because some 00:25:03.47\00:25:05.57 of the Russian soldiers would 00:25:05.57\00:25:07.77 come and they would help 00:25:07.77\00:25:09.17 themselves to some of 00:25:09.17\00:25:10.37 these things. 00:25:10.37\00:25:11.64 So when my dad was assigned to 00:25:11.64\00:25:13.94 this place only to find out 00:25:13.94\00:25:16.68 later on that this was also a 00:25:16.68\00:25:19.38 Christian, a Seventh-day 00:25:19.38\00:25:20.95 Adventist Christian that-- the 00:25:20.95\00:25:23.02 factory owner. 00:25:23.02\00:25:24.49 And so when he found out who 00:25:24.49\00:25:26.86 my dad was and everything, he 00:25:26.86\00:25:28.79 said, "I think you are like an 00:25:28.79\00:25:30.63 angel, God sent you to me." 00:25:30.63\00:25:32.69 And so he gave him the keys of 00:25:32.69\00:25:34.63 the whole operation there and 00:25:34.63\00:25:36.90 he did his work and everything 00:25:36.90\00:25:38.80 went well for a while, but 00:25:38.80\00:25:40.90 finally one day my father said 00:25:40.90\00:25:43.81 to the factory owner, "Look, 00:25:43.81\00:25:45.81 I'm not happy here, I need to 00:25:45.81\00:25:47.78 find my family. 00:25:47.78\00:25:49.18 The war is over, I need to 00:25:49.18\00:25:50.61 know where they are." 00:25:50.61\00:25:52.68 And so he had written to 00:25:52.68\00:25:54.65 Berlin and my mother had 00:25:54.65\00:25:57.52 written to Berlin without any 00:25:57.52\00:25:59.59 results, but then my father-- 00:25:59.59\00:26:03.46 my sister decided one day, she 00:26:03.46\00:26:06.23 came from the field at work, 00:26:06.23\00:26:09.53 and she said, "Mother, today 00:26:09.53\00:26:11.50 I'm gonna write to Dad and Dad 00:26:11.50\00:26:13.54 is gonna write, too, we're 00:26:13.54\00:26:15.24 going to-- both letters will 00:26:15.24\00:26:16.60 arrive at the church 00:26:16.60\00:26:18.64 headquarters office in Berlin 00:26:18.64\00:26:20.41 and Dad will know where we are 00:26:20.41\00:26:21.64 and we're going to find 00:26:21.64\00:26:23.01 each other." 00:26:23.01\00:26:24.25 >> Jacob, unfortunately I'm 00:26:24.25\00:26:25.91 gonna have to stop you, we've 00:26:25.91\00:26:27.58 come to the end of our program 00:26:27.58\00:26:29.35 and we've run out of time. 00:26:29.35\00:26:31.32 Mike, I wonder if you can 00:26:31.32\00:26:32.55 please pray for us? 00:26:32.55\00:26:33.76 >> Oh, sure, absolutely. 00:26:33.76\00:26:35.26 Let's pray. 00:26:35.26\00:26:36.73 Father in heaven, we wanna 00:26:36.73\00:26:38.43 thank You for the way You 00:26:38.43\00:26:41.20 blessed Jacob's life, his 00:26:41.20\00:26:43.10 entire family, leading them 00:26:43.10\00:26:45.47 through a time of war, through 00:26:45.47\00:26:48.17 a time when they were under 00:26:48.17\00:26:50.51 persecution for their faith 00:26:50.51\00:26:52.57 and just showing them Your 00:26:52.57\00:26:55.28 freedom, the freedom that 00:26:55.28\00:26:56.81 comes from trusting in You. 00:26:56.81\00:26:58.61 Thank You for his life, for 00:26:58.61\00:27:00.38 the way You have led him as a 00:27:00.38\00:27:02.18 pastor and his brother as a 00:27:02.18\00:27:04.29 pastor, his father and just 00:27:04.29\00:27:06.19 being a blessing to so many 00:27:06.19\00:27:07.62 people through their lives and 00:27:07.62\00:27:09.39 we thank You, in Jesus' name, 00:27:09.39\00:27:11.46 amen. 00:27:11.46\00:27:12.43 Jacob, thank you so much for 00:27:13.93\00:27:16.30 joining us again on It Is 00:27:16.30\00:27:17.53 Written Canada to share your 00:27:17.53\00:27:19.00 story with us. 00:27:19.00\00:27:20.40 >> It's been an honour for me 00:27:20.40\00:27:21.54 to be with you. 00:27:21.54\00:27:22.74 >> Friends, our free offer 00:27:25.21\00:27:26.84 today was written by Pastor 00:27:26.84\00:27:29.11 Jacob Hiebert. 00:27:29.11\00:27:30.45 It is his story entitled, 00:27:30.45\00:27:32.58 Freedom's Journey. 00:27:32.58\00:27:34.28 This book details the full 00:27:34.28\00:27:36.48 story of how Jacob and his 00:27:36.48\00:27:38.82 family were determined to 00:27:38.82\00:27:40.69 follow God, no matter what. 00:27:40.69\00:27:43.32 >> Their heart-stopping 00:27:43.32\00:27:44.93 journey displays the signs of 00:27:44.93\00:27:47.03 God's hand leading His 00:27:47.03\00:27:48.50 children in such a 00:27:48.50\00:27:50.67 faith-building story. 00:27:50.67\00:27:52.83 Freedom's Journey reveals how 00:27:54.17\00:27:56.24 we serve a great God who is 00:27:56.24\00:27:58.37 able to lead you, too, when 00:27:58.37\00:28:00.51 you put your trust in Him. 00:28:00.51\00:28:02.64 >> We want you to experience 00:28:03.38\00:28:04.85 the truth that is found in the 00:28:04.85\00:28:06.65 words of Jesus when He said, 00:28:06.65\00:28:08.82 "It is written, 'man shall not 00:28:08.82\00:28:10.89 live by bread alone, but by 00:28:10.89\00:28:12.85 every word that proceeds out 00:28:12.85\00:28:14.59 of the mouth of God.'" 00:28:14.59\00:28:16.73 ¤¤ 00:28:16.73\00:28:46.92