[RENÉ] Welcome to It Is 00:00:42.54\00:00:44.61 Written Canada. 00:00:44.61\00:00:46.11 Thank you for joining us in 00:00:46.11\00:00:47.81 beautiful Kelowna, British 00:00:47.81\00:00:49.64 Columbia. 00:00:49.64\00:00:50.81 Our special guest again is Don 00:00:51.18\00:00:53.65 Straub, a practising clinical 00:00:53.65\00:00:56.12 counsellor who helps people 00:00:56.12\00:00:57.99 struggling with everyday 00:00:57.99\00:00:59.75 problems by giving them 00:00:59.75\00:01:01.66 powerful, practical solutions. 00:01:01.66\00:01:04.36 >> Don is going to examine 00:01:04.36\00:01:05.89 whether or not self-love is an 00:01:05.89\00:01:07.93 oxymoron or an expression that 00:01:07.93\00:01:10.10 some see as an incongruous, 00:01:10.10\00:01:12.57 seemingly self-contradictory 00:01:12.57\00:01:14.70 term. 00:01:14.70\00:01:16.00 Don, welcome back to It Is 00:01:16.00\00:01:17.64 Written Canada. 00:01:17.64\00:01:18.91 >> Thank you, I feel 00:01:18.91\00:01:20.14 privileged to be here today. 00:01:20.14\00:01:21.38 >> Don, today you're going to 00:01:22.14\00:01:23.51 be talking to us about 00:01:23.51\00:01:24.81 self-love. 00:01:24.81\00:01:26.98 Isn't self-love selfish? 00:01:26.98\00:01:29.98 >> Well, if you think about 00:01:30.92\00:01:32.35 it, true love is never selfish. 00:01:32.35\00:01:36.16 The problem is that in the 00:01:36.16\00:01:37.73 world there is a false kind of 00:01:37.73\00:01:39.33 love and that's what makes 00:01:39.33\00:01:40.96 people nervous about 00:01:40.96\00:01:41.93 this topic. 00:01:41.93\00:01:42.90 But when you think about the 00:01:43.70\00:01:45.33 word, "love," the word, 00:01:45.33\00:01:47.27 "love," is actually a verb, 00:01:47.27\00:01:49.40 it's an action. 00:01:49.40\00:01:51.04 And let's look at 00:01:51.04\00:01:52.47 1 Corinthians 13 where Paul 00:01:52.47\00:01:54.14 describes love. 00:01:54.14\00:01:55.68 He says... 00:01:55.68\00:01:56.98 So when you think of those 00:02:22.74\00:02:24.61 words of action, wow! 00:02:24.61\00:02:27.64 Love is a wonderful thing, 00:02:27.64\00:02:29.28 a God-like thing. 00:02:29.28\00:02:30.91 I find it interesting that 00:02:30.91\00:02:32.88 Paul actually emphasizes 00:02:32.88\00:02:35.32 things that love is not more 00:02:35.32\00:02:37.19 than what he says love is, 00:02:37.19\00:02:39.05 like he says it's not 00:02:39.05\00:02:40.52 irritable, it's not boastful, 00:02:40.52\00:02:42.82 it's not jealous. 00:02:42.82\00:02:44.76 When I was teaching religion 00:02:44.76\00:02:46.46 in grade 11 and 12 grades 00:02:46.46\00:02:49.00 years ago and I would come to 00:02:49.00\00:02:51.00 this topic, I would ask the 00:02:51.00\00:02:52.37 students: define love. 00:02:52.37\00:02:54.67 And at first the students 00:02:54.67\00:02:55.74 would just go, like, 00:02:55.74\00:02:56.97 speechless, they had nothing 00:02:56.97\00:02:57.87 to say. 00:02:57.87\00:02:58.91 But I would wait. 00:02:58.91\00:03:00.74 Finally somebody would say, 00:03:00.74\00:03:02.61 "Love is caring." 00:03:02.61\00:03:04.41 I'd say, "Yes, love is caring." 00:03:04.41\00:03:06.11 "More." 00:03:06.11\00:03:07.18 And they would start to come 00:03:07.18\00:03:08.55 up with all of these wonderful 00:03:08.55\00:03:09.75 synonyms like love is being 00:03:09.75\00:03:12.75 polite, love is being kind, 00:03:12.75\00:03:15.79 love is being respectful, love 00:03:15.79\00:03:18.43 is helping people. 00:03:18.43\00:03:20.03 And they just intuitively 00:03:20.03\00:03:21.73 understood love is an action 00:03:21.73\00:03:24.07 and all of these wonderful 00:03:24.07\00:03:25.53 actions are beautiful, they're 00:03:25.53\00:03:27.40 never sinful. 00:03:27.40\00:03:29.20 So if that's what love is, 00:03:29.20\00:03:31.71 then how could we not love 00:03:31.71\00:03:33.38 ourselves in that sense 00:03:33.38\00:03:35.48 of the word? 00:03:35.48\00:03:36.98 There's another thing about 00:03:38.45\00:03:39.91 love that I think people don't 00:03:39.91\00:03:41.42 quite understand. 00:03:41.42\00:03:42.92 Some people talk about 00:03:42.92\00:03:44.35 unconditional love as if it's 00:03:44.35\00:03:46.12 another kind of love, 00:03:46.12\00:03:48.12 but there's only one kind of 00:03:48.12\00:03:49.12 love, it has to be 00:03:49.12\00:03:50.76 unconditional or it's not love. 00:03:50.76\00:03:52.89 Remember, we can't force love, 00:03:53.80\00:03:55.43 you can't buy love. 00:03:55.43\00:03:57.37 God is a God of love and 00:03:57.37\00:03:59.03 freedom so it has to be freely 00:03:59.03\00:04:01.27 given, unconditionally, or it 00:04:01.27\00:04:03.27 can't be love. 00:04:03.27\00:04:04.74 >> One of the most well-known 00:04:06.37\00:04:08.51 sayings of Jesus is, "Love one" 00:04:08.51\00:04:11.31 "another as you love yourself." 00:04:11.31\00:04:12.98 So what are your thoughts on 00:04:12.98\00:04:13.98 that, Don? 00:04:13.98\00:04:14.78 >> That is a beautiful text 00:04:15.58\00:04:17.49 and I think sometimes to 00:04:17.49\00:04:19.22 understand a verse, we might 00:04:19.22\00:04:21.29 wanna look at what it does 00:04:21.29\00:04:22.89 not say. 00:04:22.89\00:04:24.46 You see, Jesus said, 00:04:24.46\00:04:25.69 "Love your neighbour as" 00:04:25.69\00:04:27.03 "yourself," He did not say, 00:04:27.03\00:04:28.56 "Love your neighbour better" 00:04:28.56\00:04:29.93 "than yourself." 00:04:29.93\00:04:31.23 Now, I used to teach math in 00:04:32.03\00:04:34.70 high school also and my 00:04:34.70\00:04:37.11 favourite section was solving 00:04:37.11\00:04:39.04 equations. 00:04:39.04\00:04:41.08 So you're all familiar with 00:04:41.08\00:04:42.38 equations, they have an equal 00:04:42.38\00:04:43.58 sign in the middle and then 00:04:43.58\00:04:44.85 they have a right side and a 00:04:44.85\00:04:45.98 left side and we're-- each 00:04:45.98\00:04:47.48 side is equal to each other. 00:04:47.48\00:04:49.78 Like, we could say, "7+3=10." 00:04:49.78\00:04:54.89 But we could also put "10" on 00:04:54.89\00:04:56.12 this side and "7+3" on this 00:04:56.12\00:04:57.76 side and say "10=7+3." 00:04:57.76\00:05:01.36 So you look at the word, "as," 00:05:01.36\00:05:03.06 it's like that equal sign. 00:05:03.06\00:05:04.57 "Love your neighbour as," 00:05:04.57\00:05:07.07 equals, "yourself," 00:05:07.07\00:05:08.27 love yourself. 00:05:08.27\00:05:09.44 "Love yourself as your" 00:05:09.44\00:05:11.17 "neighbour," we could say it 00:05:11.17\00:05:12.17 backwards, too. 00:05:12.17\00:05:13.61 So they're basically one and 00:05:13.61\00:05:15.11 the same thing. 00:05:15.11\00:05:17.15 >> So, Don, you mentioned that 00:05:17.15\00:05:18.85 there is this false kind of 00:05:18.85\00:05:21.62 love that is very prevalent in 00:05:21.62\00:05:24.09 the world today. 00:05:24.09\00:05:26.12 What does this kind of love 00:05:26.12\00:05:27.56 look like? 00:05:27.56\00:05:28.59 >> Well, in my world of 00:05:29.22\00:05:30.96 counselling, we call this 00:05:30.96\00:05:33.63 false love, "co-dependency." 00:05:33.63\00:05:36.36 It's more about the motive of 00:05:36.36\00:05:38.77 loving, like, why does a 00:05:38.77\00:05:40.60 person love and true love is 00:05:40.60\00:05:43.04 all about just loving 00:05:43.04\00:05:44.71 unconditionally whereas 00:05:44.71\00:05:46.21 co-dependency is loving 00:05:46.21\00:05:49.21 and expecting love 00:05:49.21\00:05:51.18 to get something. 00:05:51.18\00:05:52.41 Like, in other words, a person 00:05:53.42\00:05:55.38 who is co-dependent is really 00:05:55.38\00:05:57.09 stuck in a really deep place 00:05:57.09\00:05:59.69 of low self-worth, they don't 00:05:59.69\00:06:01.99 like themself, they don't love 00:06:01.99\00:06:03.49 themself, and they're looking 00:06:03.49\00:06:04.89 for other people to love them 00:06:04.89\00:06:06.93 and they're trying to get that 00:06:06.93\00:06:08.06 love from other people. 00:06:08.06\00:06:09.76 >> Is there a better way of 00:06:09.76\00:06:11.27 looking at it than 00:06:11.27\00:06:12.90 co-dependency? 00:06:12.90\00:06:14.27 Is there another way of 00:06:14.27\00:06:16.04 understanding that? 00:06:16.04\00:06:17.37 >> Yes, I believe there is 00:06:17.37\00:06:19.01 because the word, 00:06:19.01\00:06:20.98 "co-dependency," really means 00:06:20.98\00:06:23.04 external dependency, a 00:06:23.04\00:06:25.31 favourite author of mine 00:06:25.31\00:06:26.68 introduced me to that word, 00:06:26.68\00:06:27.82 Robert Bernie. 00:06:27.82\00:06:29.55 External dependency tells us 00:06:29.55\00:06:31.45 that we look for our worth, 00:06:31.45\00:06:34.49 our value, outside of ourself. 00:06:34.49\00:06:36.93 We may look to our career, 00:06:36.93\00:06:39.23 money in the bank, our house, 00:06:39.23\00:06:41.46 the vehicle we drive, we might 00:06:41.46\00:06:43.03 look to a relationship. 00:06:43.03\00:06:44.70 We look to these external 00:06:44.70\00:06:46.13 things to feel worthy and 00:06:46.13\00:06:47.80 valuable rather than 00:06:47.80\00:06:49.47 understanding that we already 00:06:49.47\00:06:51.31 are worthy and valuable. 00:06:51.31\00:06:53.21 >> Don, isn't looking to God 00:06:54.18\00:06:56.44 for our self-worth and value 00:06:56.44\00:06:59.18 looking externally? 00:06:59.18\00:07:01.75 Aren't you telling us to look 00:07:01.75\00:07:03.22 within ourselves for our worth 00:07:03.22\00:07:06.15 and value? 00:07:06.15\00:07:07.26 >> And that's why a lot of 00:07:08.66\00:07:10.06 people get afraid of this idea 00:07:10.06\00:07:11.59 of self-love. 00:07:11.59\00:07:12.66 But what this is not saying, 00:07:13.46\00:07:15.43 we're not saying that we're 00:07:15.43\00:07:17.60 better than someone else, 00:07:17.60\00:07:19.90 we're not saying that we're 00:07:19.90\00:07:21.64 God, what we are saying is 00:07:21.64\00:07:24.14 we're seeing the worth and 00:07:24.14\00:07:26.44 value in ourselves that God 00:07:26.44\00:07:28.64 sees and God declares about us. 00:07:28.64\00:07:31.91 That's all it is. 00:07:31.91\00:07:34.02 To do otherwise would be to 00:07:34.02\00:07:35.75 call God a liar. 00:07:35.75\00:07:37.62 The fact is that a lot of 00:07:38.79\00:07:40.42 people hate themselves, 00:07:40.42\00:07:43.32 they don't love themselves. 00:07:43.32\00:07:46.33 As a matter of fact, they know 00:07:46.33\00:07:47.96 that people self-talk about 00:07:47.96\00:07:50.17 50,000 words in a day. 00:07:50.17\00:07:53.27 Now most of those words are 00:07:53.27\00:07:54.80 pretty benign and neutral, but 00:07:54.80\00:07:56.17 so much of it is self-talk 00:07:56.17\00:07:58.24 that is very negative and 00:07:58.24\00:07:59.54 putting ourselves down, 00:07:59.54\00:08:00.68 "Oh, I'm such an idiot," 00:08:00.68\00:08:02.01 "I'm no good, I'll never get" 00:08:02.01\00:08:03.14 "this right, I'm a loser," 00:08:03.14\00:08:04.48 "I can't do anything, I don't" 00:08:04.48\00:08:05.58 "deserve this, I don't" 00:08:05.58\00:08:06.72 "deserve that." 00:08:06.72\00:08:07.92 All of these lies that we tell 00:08:07.92\00:08:09.58 ourselves, that's not loving. 00:08:09.58\00:08:11.82 If you said all those things 00:08:11.82\00:08:13.19 to your neighbour, would that 00:08:13.19\00:08:14.12 be loving? 00:08:14.12\00:08:15.22 Absolutely not. 00:08:15.22\00:08:16.76 So we need to stop this 00:08:16.76\00:08:18.33 "stinking thinking," we need 00:08:18.33\00:08:20.33 to turn that around and tell 00:08:20.33\00:08:21.70 ourselves truth and that's how 00:08:21.70\00:08:23.57 we love ourselves, by telling 00:08:23.57\00:08:25.00 ourselves the truth about 00:08:25.00\00:08:26.57 ourselves, the truth that God 00:08:26.57\00:08:28.04 has told us about ourselves. 00:08:28.04\00:08:29.67 You know, the trouble in our 00:08:30.57\00:08:32.07 world of co-dependency where 00:08:32.07\00:08:34.34 we're always looking outside 00:08:34.34\00:08:35.81 of ourselves for worth and 00:08:35.81\00:08:37.05 value, we look to our body 00:08:37.05\00:08:39.08 shape, we look to money, we 00:08:39.08\00:08:41.08 look to careers, we look to 00:08:41.08\00:08:42.38 all these external things and 00:08:42.38\00:08:43.92 it's never enough. 00:08:43.92\00:08:45.12 It's never enough. 00:08:45.12\00:08:46.45 How much money does it take to 00:08:48.36\00:08:50.33 satisfy a man or a woman? 00:08:50.33\00:08:53.06 It's always a little more, 00:08:53.06\00:08:54.46 always a little more, 00:08:54.46\00:08:55.66 it's never enough. 00:08:55.66\00:08:57.57 You know, our whole world kind 00:08:57.57\00:08:59.57 of supports that and fosters 00:08:59.57\00:09:01.30 those ideas. 00:09:01.30\00:09:03.07 When you think about it, all 00:09:03.07\00:09:04.87 the advertisements you see in 00:09:04.87\00:09:06.37 magazines and on media, 00:09:06.37\00:09:08.58 they're all telling us that if 00:09:08.58\00:09:10.61 you don't eat this, wear this, 00:09:10.61\00:09:12.38 drive this, you're not enough. 00:09:12.38\00:09:13.62 And so we're programmed into 00:09:14.58\00:09:16.89 co-dependency, it's kind of-- 00:09:16.89\00:09:18.55 our music, our movies, the 00:09:18.55\00:09:20.36 television is always telling 00:09:20.36\00:09:21.99 us, "You need to look" 00:09:21.99\00:09:23.06 "like this." 00:09:23.06\00:09:24.36 In television, it seems like 00:09:24.36\00:09:26.76 some of the policemen, the 00:09:26.76\00:09:28.10 nurses, all of them, they all 00:09:28.10\00:09:29.36 look like these models, you 00:09:29.36\00:09:30.70 know, and we watch this and we 00:09:30.70\00:09:32.30 start to feel like, "Well, I" 00:09:32.30\00:09:33.60 "don't look like that, I must" 00:09:33.60\00:09:34.70 "not look-- I must not" 00:09:34.70\00:09:35.80 "be enough." 00:09:35.80\00:09:36.97 That's the problem with 00:09:36.97\00:09:38.04 co-dependency. 00:09:38.04\00:09:39.24 So, you know, we're programmed 00:09:39.24\00:09:40.94 into it, our society has 00:09:40.94\00:09:43.31 groomed us to be co-dependent. 00:09:43.31\00:09:44.65 It's so sad. 00:09:44.65\00:09:45.61 >> So let's take this concept 00:09:46.38\00:09:47.92 of healthy self-love, what 00:09:47.92\00:09:51.35 does it look like in action? 00:09:51.35\00:09:52.82 >> There's actually a healthy 00:09:53.89\00:09:55.36 pride, we can have a healthy 00:09:55.36\00:09:56.93 pride in our work, 00:09:56.93\00:09:58.66 in our children. 00:09:58.66\00:10:00.93 There's an unhealthy pride, a 00:10:00.93\00:10:03.03 false kind of pride that goes, 00:10:03.03\00:10:04.37 "I'm better than people, I'm" 00:10:04.37\00:10:05.83 "better than others," I put 00:10:05.83\00:10:07.17 myself above others. 00:10:07.17\00:10:09.34 There's a healthy humility, 00:10:09.34\00:10:10.44 too. 00:10:10.44\00:10:11.21 A healthy humility is when you 00:10:11.87\00:10:14.88 can recognize not just your 00:10:14.88\00:10:17.18 weaknesses, but your strengths. 00:10:17.18\00:10:19.38 There's a false humility which 00:10:19.38\00:10:20.82 only recognizes your 00:10:20.82\00:10:22.28 weaknesses and you're always 00:10:22.28\00:10:23.52 putting yourself down, putting 00:10:23.52\00:10:24.62 yourself down. 00:10:24.62\00:10:26.15 So a healthy self-love is 00:10:26.15\00:10:28.19 simply loving yourself, it's 00:10:28.19\00:10:29.89 an action. 00:10:29.89\00:10:31.66 Now, interestingly enough, 00:10:31.66\00:10:33.50 Greek has, like, six words for 00:10:33.50\00:10:34.96 love and we're stuck with one 00:10:34.96\00:10:36.36 so, you know, I love my wife, 00:10:36.36\00:10:38.00 I love my job, I love my dog, 00:10:38.00\00:10:40.57 you know, I love ice cream. 00:10:40.57\00:10:42.20 No, you don't, you don't love 00:10:42.20\00:10:43.77 ice cream, you really like 00:10:43.77\00:10:45.64 ice cream, you don't love 00:10:45.64\00:10:46.94 ice cream, in fact, maybe if 00:10:46.94\00:10:48.44 you love yourself, you might 00:10:48.44\00:10:49.54 not need that ice cream. 00:10:49.54\00:10:51.15 So you see, love is a-- it 00:10:51.15\00:10:52.95 starts by actually having a 00:10:52.95\00:10:54.95 good, healthy definition of 00:10:54.95\00:10:56.42 love, right? 00:10:56.42\00:10:58.22 And so as we said earlier, 00:10:58.22\00:11:00.12 love is caring, love is 00:11:00.12\00:11:02.22 nurturing, love is supporting, 00:11:02.22\00:11:04.46 love is being kind, love is 00:11:04.46\00:11:06.73 all of these wonderful things 00:11:06.73\00:11:08.66 and we can do that towards 00:11:08.66\00:11:10.57 ourself, we can treat 00:11:10.57\00:11:12.10 ourselves in that way. 00:11:12.10\00:11:14.07 So a person who loves him or 00:11:14.07\00:11:16.24 herself knows how to love him 00:11:16.24\00:11:20.24 or herself, that person will 00:11:20.24\00:11:22.71 get a good diet, a healthy 00:11:22.71\00:11:24.48 diet, nutrition, they'll get 00:11:24.48\00:11:26.21 themselves some good sleep, 00:11:26.21\00:11:28.02 they'll exercise, they'll get 00:11:28.02\00:11:29.72 out in the fresh air, they'll 00:11:29.72\00:11:31.09 have a walk with God, and they 00:11:31.09\00:11:32.52 can have boundaries, they can 00:11:32.52\00:11:33.96 say "no" to things, they can 00:11:33.96\00:11:35.09 protect themselves. 00:11:35.09\00:11:36.26 >> What do you mean by 00:11:36.59\00:11:37.76 boundaries? 00:11:37.76\00:11:38.73 >> Let's think of the word, 00:11:39.49\00:11:40.76 "boundaries," the way we often 00:11:40.76\00:11:42.60 think of boundaries. 00:11:42.60\00:11:44.23 There is a boundary between my 00:11:44.23\00:11:45.77 yard and my neighbour's yard. 00:11:45.77\00:11:47.47 It may not be marked with a 00:11:47.47\00:11:49.04 fence or a hedge, but there is 00:11:49.04\00:11:50.14 a boundary and I need to 00:11:50.14\00:11:51.74 respect and honour that 00:11:51.74\00:11:53.01 boundary. 00:11:53.01\00:11:54.34 In other words, I might be out 00:11:54.34\00:11:55.74 mowing my lawn and I look at 00:11:55.74\00:11:57.08 my neighbour's lawn and it 00:11:57.08\00:11:58.48 doesn't look good enough to me 00:11:58.48\00:11:59.51 so I start mowing his. 00:11:59.51\00:12:00.72 That's not really respecting 00:12:00.72\00:12:01.78 my neighbour's boundary. 00:12:01.78\00:12:03.59 I need to respect my own 00:12:03.59\00:12:05.19 boundaries by mowing my own 00:12:05.19\00:12:06.49 lawn and keeping it looking 00:12:06.49\00:12:07.52 good for my neighbour. 00:12:07.52\00:12:09.22 So in life, we all have values 00:12:09.22\00:12:12.09 and we need to honour the 00:12:13.03\00:12:14.73 values that we believe in, 00:12:14.73\00:12:16.13 whether it's honesty, 00:12:16.13\00:12:17.37 truthfulness, trusting, 00:12:17.37\00:12:18.93 whatever it is, we need to 00:12:18.93\00:12:20.67 honour those boundaries. 00:12:20.67\00:12:22.30 And so sometimes we need to 00:12:22.30\00:12:24.01 say "no," we need to say "no" 00:12:24.01\00:12:26.01 to offers to do things or to, 00:12:26.01\00:12:28.61 you know, things that we don't 00:12:28.61\00:12:30.05 believe in that are not good 00:12:30.05\00:12:31.31 for us. 00:12:31.31\00:12:32.08 So boundaries is the ability, 00:12:32.75\00:12:34.48 really, to say "no," and to 00:12:34.48\00:12:37.19 honour my own values, OK? 00:12:37.19\00:12:40.36 You know when you go on an 00:12:40.36\00:12:41.59 airplane they always give you 00:12:41.59\00:12:42.69 that same spiel? 00:12:42.69\00:12:43.99 Like "When the oxygen masks" 00:12:43.99\00:12:45.69 "fall from the ceiling, be" 00:12:45.69\00:12:47.13 "sure to put your own oxygen" 00:12:47.13\00:12:48.73 "mask on first before helping" 00:12:48.73\00:12:50.20 "someone else?" 00:12:50.20\00:12:51.73 Isn't that selfish? 00:12:51.73\00:12:52.97 >> No, that's not selfish 00:12:52.97\00:12:54.24 because if you don't put your 00:12:54.24\00:12:55.40 oxygen mask on, you won't be 00:12:55.40\00:12:56.74 able to maybe help the other 00:12:56.74\00:12:58.87 person put their oxygen 00:12:58.87\00:13:00.14 mask on. 00:13:00.14\00:13:01.41 >> Precisely. 00:13:01.41\00:13:02.91 And, you know, that's what we 00:13:02.91\00:13:04.01 often fail to remember. 00:13:04.01\00:13:06.58 In a previous episode I talk 00:13:06.58\00:13:08.52 about-- I talked about my work 00:13:08.52\00:13:09.92 addiction and how I was 00:13:09.92\00:13:11.72 consumed, always consumed with 00:13:11.72\00:13:13.86 helping everybody else. 00:13:13.86\00:13:15.72 Now, I came to the place where 00:13:17.13\00:13:20.13 I burned myself up, burned 00:13:20.13\00:13:22.43 myself out to the place I 00:13:22.43\00:13:24.40 couldn't help my own family, 00:13:24.40\00:13:26.03 let alone myself. 00:13:26.03\00:13:27.97 That is not having good 00:13:27.97\00:13:29.47 boundaries. 00:13:29.47\00:13:30.81 Let's look at 1 Timothy 5, 00:13:31.71\00:13:33.84 verse 8, it says... 00:13:33.84\00:13:35.84 Could you imagine Noah 00:13:49.26\00:13:51.96 building the ark and all these 00:13:51.96\00:13:54.20 other people coming into the 00:13:54.20\00:13:55.76 ark, but his own family 00:13:55.76\00:13:57.33 not coming in? 00:13:57.33\00:13:59.10 How sad would that be? 00:13:59.10\00:14:01.27 So, we need to consider sometime 00:14:01.27\00:14:04.34 saying "no" because we only 00:14:04.34\00:14:06.57 have limited time and energy 00:14:06.57\00:14:08.71 and we need to spread that 00:14:08.71\00:14:10.48 energy and time out to be good 00:14:10.48\00:14:12.28 stewards, shall we say, of 00:14:12.28\00:14:14.02 ourselves so that we do have 00:14:14.02\00:14:15.88 the time and energy for the 00:14:15.88\00:14:17.39 people we love the most. 00:14:17.39\00:14:18.85 If we're not caring for 00:14:18.85\00:14:20.49 ourselves, how can we care 00:14:20.49\00:14:22.12 for those people? 00:14:22.12\00:14:23.26 >> So having a healthy 00:14:24.86\00:14:26.36 self-love is like walking a 00:14:26.36\00:14:27.86 tight rope; on one side is 00:14:27.86\00:14:30.27 loving my neighbour and the 00:14:30.27\00:14:31.47 other side is loving myself 00:14:31.47\00:14:32.67 and it's hard to get it 00:14:32.67\00:14:33.84 perfect, you know. 00:14:33.84\00:14:35.34 When do I say "no?" 00:14:35.34\00:14:37.37 When do I say "yes?" 00:14:37.37\00:14:39.31 When I was a leader, I could 00:14:39.31\00:14:41.01 not ever say "no," I was 00:14:41.01\00:14:42.78 always saying "yes" and that's 00:14:42.78\00:14:44.58 where I ran down this road 00:14:44.58\00:14:46.15 into burnout. 00:14:46.15\00:14:48.15 In my own counselling as I was 00:14:48.15\00:14:50.09 recovering from this work 00:14:50.09\00:14:51.62 addiction, this co-dependency, 00:14:51.62\00:14:53.72 so to speak, I began to 00:14:53.72\00:14:55.26 realize my stinking thinking, 00:14:55.26\00:14:57.16 I began to realize that I was 00:14:57.16\00:14:59.19 actually having this false 00:14:59.19\00:15:00.63 kind of love because my 00:15:00.63\00:15:02.50 motives were more for, "Am I" 00:15:02.50\00:15:04.13 "doing the right thing?" 00:15:04.13\00:15:05.43 "Am I doing enough?" 00:15:05.43\00:15:06.87 "Do people like what I'm" 00:15:06.87\00:15:08.07 "doing, are they happy with" 00:15:08.07\00:15:09.07 "what I'm doing?" 00:15:09.07\00:15:10.41 And it's never enough, it's 00:15:10.41\00:15:12.51 absolutely never enough. 00:15:12.51\00:15:14.54 And now, to this day, even as 00:15:14.54\00:15:16.41 a counsellor, it's difficult. 00:15:16.41\00:15:18.75 I still fight this. 00:15:18.75\00:15:20.32 Someone asks me if I can take 00:15:20.32\00:15:21.88 them as a client and I have a 00:15:21.88\00:15:23.35 difficult time saying "no," 00:15:23.35\00:15:24.65 but I have to draw that 00:15:24.65\00:15:25.79 boundary, I have to say, 00:15:25.79\00:15:27.02 "No, I don't have room" 00:15:27.02\00:15:28.42 "anymore for clients." 00:15:28.42\00:15:29.72 I-- you know, and that's-- 00:15:29.72\00:15:31.33 "Can I recommend you to" 00:15:31.33\00:15:32.93 "somebody else?" 00:15:32.93\00:15:34.50 "Can I put you on my" 00:15:34.50\00:15:35.63 "wait list?" 00:15:35.63\00:15:37.13 It's difficult to say "no" at 00:15:37.13\00:15:38.57 some times, but it's important 00:15:38.57\00:15:40.30 because if we can't take care 00:15:40.30\00:15:41.90 of ourselves in healthy ways, 00:15:41.90\00:15:43.87 how can we really take care of 00:15:43.87\00:15:46.54 others in the long run? 00:15:46.54\00:15:48.04 'Cause that's the key. 00:15:48.04\00:15:49.44 I don't wanna burn out early 00:15:49.44\00:15:51.35 and cut my ministry short, I 00:15:51.35\00:15:53.15 wanna be able to be a greater 00:15:53.15\00:15:55.08 help, more help to more people. 00:15:55.08\00:15:57.72 Even Jesus took time out, 00:15:57.72\00:15:59.82 stopped His healing and went 00:15:59.82\00:16:01.29 to pray into the mountains. 00:16:01.29\00:16:02.92 He needed to recharge. 00:16:02.92\00:16:04.19 I find that, as a counsellor, 00:16:05.36\00:16:07.13 I need vacations. 00:16:07.13\00:16:09.03 If I don't take some time to 00:16:09.03\00:16:11.13 put everything aside, to put 00:16:11.13\00:16:12.57 my work aside and take a nice 00:16:12.57\00:16:14.67 vacation, I am not gonna last 00:16:14.67\00:16:17.21 long enough or as long as I 00:16:17.21\00:16:18.77 would like to last in my 00:16:18.77\00:16:20.48 ministry as a counsellor. 00:16:20.48\00:16:22.58 So no, self-love is not an 00:16:22.58\00:16:25.28 oxymoron, in fact, self-love 00:16:25.28\00:16:28.65 is a pure kind of love, 00:16:28.65\00:16:31.42 it's a love that is helping, 00:16:31.42\00:16:33.99 being kind, nurturing, 00:16:33.99\00:16:35.79 supporting, I'm just doing the 00:16:35.79\00:16:37.59 things to myself that I would 00:16:37.59\00:16:39.33 do to my neighbour and that is 00:16:39.33\00:16:41.76 actually making me a better 00:16:41.76\00:16:43.83 neighbour myself. 00:16:43.83\00:16:45.90 >> Doesn't co-dependency have 00:16:45.90\00:16:48.47 to do with a relationship? 00:16:48.47\00:16:50.77 >> Generally speaking, we talk 00:16:50.77\00:16:52.77 about co-dependent relationships 00:16:52.77\00:16:55.84 and the reason that fits this 00:16:55.84\00:16:57.65 idea of external relationships 00:16:57.65\00:16:59.48 or external dependency is 00:16:59.48\00:17:01.65 because we're looking this 00:17:01.65\00:17:03.25 time, not to money or a car or 00:17:03.25\00:17:05.09 a job or a career or a body 00:17:05.09\00:17:06.39 shape, we're looking 00:17:06.39\00:17:08.06 externally to a partner to 00:17:08.06\00:17:10.06 feel good about ourselves. 00:17:10.06\00:17:12.29 It's kinda like I need this 00:17:12.29\00:17:13.76 person in my life or 00:17:13.76\00:17:15.06 I'm a nobody. 00:17:15.06\00:17:16.23 It's interesting how in life, 00:17:17.43\00:17:19.83 in the co-dependent life, that 00:17:19.83\00:17:21.74 is, opposites attract. 00:17:21.74\00:17:23.57 Like, "Oh, she completes me!" 00:17:24.71\00:17:27.68 And 20 years later, we're 00:17:27.68\00:17:29.24 repelled by that same 00:17:29.24\00:17:30.75 behaviour because what we're 00:17:30.75\00:17:32.35 doing is we think we're making 00:17:32.35\00:17:34.08 up for our own deficiencies. 00:17:34.08\00:17:36.02 Maybe I'm an introvert and I 00:17:36.02\00:17:37.22 want somebody who talks and so 00:17:37.22\00:17:38.92 I marry this extrovert and 00:17:38.92\00:17:40.29 after a while I can't stand 00:17:40.29\00:17:41.69 all this talking. 00:17:41.69\00:17:42.72 And then my partner says, 00:17:43.56\00:17:45.09 "You never talk to me anymore!" 00:17:45.09\00:17:46.49 And I say, "You talk too much!" 00:17:46.49\00:17:48.10 It's like we're sucking the 00:17:48.10\00:17:49.46 life out of each other. 00:17:49.46\00:17:51.07 So we find ourselves in either 00:17:51.90\00:17:53.74 healthy, interdependent 00:17:53.74\00:17:56.00 relationships, or the other 00:17:56.00\00:17:57.97 extreme: unhealthy, 00:17:57.97\00:17:59.81 co-dependent relationships. 00:17:59.81\00:18:01.54 But the truth is, most of us 00:18:01.54\00:18:02.44 are in between. 00:18:02.44\00:18:03.81 No one has a perfect 00:18:03.81\00:18:05.51 interpersonal relationship, 00:18:05.51\00:18:07.02 that would be impossible. 00:18:07.02\00:18:09.18 In my field of counselling, I 00:18:09.18\00:18:11.15 like to talk about "love cups" 00:18:11.15\00:18:13.09 or "love buckets" and so we 00:18:13.09\00:18:15.46 either have full love cups or 00:18:15.46\00:18:17.39 half-full or partially-full 00:18:17.39\00:18:18.76 love cups or even empty 00:18:18.76\00:18:19.89 love cups. 00:18:19.89\00:18:20.76 >> So what are we talking 00:18:20.76\00:18:21.80 about when we talk about a 00:18:21.80\00:18:22.80 love cup? 00:18:22.80\00:18:23.63 >> So a love cup is a 00:18:23.63\00:18:25.60 metaphor, it represents how 00:18:25.60\00:18:28.00 we see ourselves. 00:18:28.00\00:18:30.44 So a full love cup is when we 00:18:30.44\00:18:33.11 see ourselves as worthy and 00:18:33.11\00:18:35.18 valuable, as important. 00:18:35.18\00:18:37.68 We see ourselves in such a way 00:18:37.68\00:18:39.68 that we take care of ourself, 00:18:39.68\00:18:42.08 we protect ourselves, we have 00:18:42.08\00:18:43.69 healthy boundaries, we nurture 00:18:43.69\00:18:45.39 ourselves, we eat well, we 00:18:45.39\00:18:47.69 sleep well, we exercise well, 00:18:47.69\00:18:49.99 we value ourselves in that 00:18:49.99\00:18:51.69 sense, whereas a person with a 00:18:51.69\00:18:54.36 partially-full love cup has 00:18:54.36\00:18:56.80 very low self-worth or at 00:18:56.80\00:18:58.60 least they don't believe 00:18:58.60\00:19:00.14 they're worthy and valuable 00:19:00.14\00:19:01.17 even though they are. 00:19:01.17\00:19:02.30 And they actually don't take 00:19:02.30\00:19:03.77 care of themselves, they don't 00:19:03.77\00:19:05.41 eat right, they don't exercise 00:19:05.41\00:19:06.91 and sleep properly, they might 00:19:06.91\00:19:08.81 even hate themselves. 00:19:08.81\00:19:11.48 So in these co-dependent 00:19:11.48\00:19:12.91 relationships where we have 00:19:12.91\00:19:14.38 partially full love-cups, each 00:19:14.38\00:19:16.38 partner is trying to get their 00:19:16.38\00:19:18.12 partner to fill their love cup; 00:19:18.12\00:19:19.92 "You need to say more nice" 00:19:19.92\00:19:21.26 "things to me, you need to do" 00:19:21.26\00:19:22.46 "this for me..." 00:19:22.46\00:19:23.79 We're always trying to get 00:19:23.79\00:19:25.03 that person to fill our love 00:19:25.03\00:19:26.59 cup so we can feel good about 00:19:26.59\00:19:27.73 ourselves, whereas in an 00:19:27.73\00:19:29.56 interdependent relationship, 00:19:29.56\00:19:31.37 these people know how to fill 00:19:31.37\00:19:33.17 their own love cups because 00:19:33.17\00:19:34.60 they tell themselves the truth 00:19:34.60\00:19:36.40 they take care of themselves 00:19:36.40\00:19:37.94 and this way they can always 00:19:37.94\00:19:39.57 give love unconditionally to 00:19:39.57\00:19:41.24 their partner. 00:19:41.24\00:19:43.24 So that's the way it's 00:19:43.24\00:19:44.78 designed to work. 00:19:44.78\00:19:46.38 Of course, like I said, 00:19:46.38\00:19:47.62 nobody's perfect in this 00:19:47.62\00:19:49.32 scenario. 00:19:49.32\00:19:50.25 >> Isn't it OK then to have 00:19:51.02\00:19:54.62 our partner say and do nice 00:19:54.62\00:19:56.79 things for us? 00:19:56.79\00:19:58.23 Is that being selfish? 00:19:58.23\00:19:59.89 >> You know, it's not about 00:20:00.83\00:20:02.16 that because it's a wonderful 00:20:02.16\00:20:03.57 thing to have these people in 00:20:03.57\00:20:04.83 our lives, it's a 00:20:04.83\00:20:05.90 beautiful thing. 00:20:05.90\00:20:07.50 It has to do with our motive. 00:20:07.50\00:20:11.04 Like, is that the only way I 00:20:11.04\00:20:13.21 feel good about myself? 00:20:13.21\00:20:14.91 Is that the only way I feel 00:20:14.91\00:20:16.38 worthy and valuable is when I 00:20:16.38\00:20:17.85 get these compliments? 00:20:17.85\00:20:19.61 That's co-dependency. 00:20:19.61\00:20:21.32 Because when you have your 00:20:21.32\00:20:22.62 love cup full, these are 00:20:22.62\00:20:24.22 wonderful things to receive, 00:20:24.22\00:20:26.55 but you already have a full 00:20:26.55\00:20:28.09 love cup so it's not like 00:20:28.09\00:20:29.76 you're needing this to feel 00:20:29.76\00:20:31.09 good and valuable. 00:20:31.09\00:20:32.63 Because, you know, some things 00:20:32.63\00:20:34.13 happen, sometimes people say 00:20:34.13\00:20:35.80 mean things and that can just 00:20:35.80\00:20:37.50 throw us off the rails. 00:20:37.50\00:20:39.63 >> Don, don't you think it is 00:20:39.63\00:20:41.17 important that we help our 00:20:41.17\00:20:42.70 children learn this as early 00:20:42.70\00:20:43.91 as possible? 00:20:43.91\00:20:45.41 >> Absolutely. 00:20:45.41\00:20:47.44 And I think the key comes in 00:20:47.44\00:20:49.21 the parental role of teaching 00:20:49.21\00:20:51.78 their children the difference 00:20:51.78\00:20:53.52 between what they do 00:20:53.52\00:20:55.72 and who they are. 00:20:55.72\00:20:57.92 So when a child does something 00:20:57.92\00:20:59.89 hurtful or harmful or wrong, 00:20:59.89\00:21:02.86 to point that out to the 00:21:02.86\00:21:04.33 child, but at the same time 00:21:04.33\00:21:05.93 support them with the idea 00:21:05.93\00:21:07.66 that they're still loved, 00:21:07.66\00:21:09.76 they're worthy and valuable. 00:21:09.76\00:21:11.80 And that has to be said in 00:21:11.80\00:21:13.50 words, but sometimes we teach 00:21:13.50\00:21:15.87 our children that they're not 00:21:15.87\00:21:17.24 valuable by scolding them, by 00:21:17.24\00:21:19.27 raising our voice and yelling 00:21:19.27\00:21:20.81 at them and demeaning them 00:21:20.81\00:21:22.68 with words, "You're stupid," 00:21:22.68\00:21:24.25 you see, and this is where the 00:21:24.25\00:21:25.51 child starts to think about 00:21:25.51\00:21:27.55 themselves that they're not 00:21:27.55\00:21:28.88 worthy and they're not 00:21:28.88\00:21:30.19 valuable. 00:21:30.19\00:21:31.05 If we would raise up a 00:21:32.22\00:21:33.69 generation of children like 00:21:33.69\00:21:34.99 this, most of our world 00:21:34.99\00:21:36.59 problems would go away. 00:21:36.59\00:21:38.19 >> So, Don, how can you sum up 00:21:39.43\00:21:41.56 this discussion of self-love? 00:21:41.56\00:21:44.57 >> Well, I think that's easy 00:21:45.87\00:21:47.60 because we know from scripture 00:21:47.60\00:21:49.44 that Jesus is the Way, the 00:21:49.44\00:21:51.57 Truth, and the Life. 00:21:51.57\00:21:54.14 So we must continually look to 00:21:54.14\00:21:56.01 Jesus for the truth 00:21:56.01\00:21:57.61 about ourselves. 00:21:57.61\00:21:59.08 I wanna share one more 00:21:59.08\00:22:00.55 scripture about what Jesus 00:22:00.55\00:22:01.78 says about us. 00:22:01.78\00:22:03.05 This is what He says in 00:22:03.05\00:22:04.45 Matthew 10:29, He says... 00:22:04.45\00:22:06.59 Wow, isn't that amazing? 00:22:15.63\00:22:18.13 That shows how God values us. 00:22:18.13\00:22:20.84 It even goes on to say that 00:22:20.84\00:22:22.67 God even knows the very hairs, 00:22:22.67\00:22:24.71 the number of hairs on our 00:22:24.71\00:22:26.24 head and I'll tell you, that's 00:22:26.24\00:22:27.61 changing like every hour, for 00:22:27.61\00:22:28.68 me at least. 00:22:28.68\00:22:30.25 And then Jesus says, 00:22:30.25\00:22:31.95 "So don't be afraid, you are" 00:22:31.95\00:22:34.42 "more valuable to Him than a" 00:22:34.42\00:22:36.62 "whole flock of sparrows." 00:22:36.62\00:22:38.29 Just thinking about that 00:22:39.32\00:22:40.86 is just amazing. 00:22:40.86\00:22:42.36 This is the truth that we need 00:22:42.36\00:22:43.89 to tell ourselves every day; 00:22:43.89\00:22:46.13 I am a child of the King. 00:22:46.13\00:22:48.16 ¤¤ 00:22:48.16\00:23:13.92 ¤My Father is rich 00:23:13.92\00:23:20.06 ¤in houses and lands 00:23:20.06\00:23:26.33 ¤He holdeth the wealth 00:23:26.33\00:23:31.41 ¤of the world in His hands 00:23:31.41\00:23:38.08 ¤I once was an outcast 00:23:38.08\00:23:44.05 ¤a stranger on earth 00:23:44.05\00:23:49.52 ¤A sinner by choice 00:23:49.52\00:23:54.30 ¤and an alien by birth 00:23:54.30\00:24:01.14 ¤But I've been adopted 00:24:01.14\00:24:06.64 ¤my name's written down 00:24:06.64\00:24:12.41 ¤All glory to God 00:24:12.41\00:24:18.12 ¤I'm a child of the King 00:24:18.12\00:24:24.03 ¤I'm a child of the King 00:24:26.83\00:24:32.57 ¤A child of the King 00:24:32.57\00:24:38.87 ¤With Jesus my Savior 00:24:38.87\00:24:44.71 ¤I'm a child of the King 00:24:44.71\00:24:52.15 ¤¤ 00:24:52.15\00:25:04.70 ¤I'm a child of the King 00:25:04.70\00:25:15.21 >> Lord God, Father in heaven, 00:25:27.29\00:25:30.09 thank You for calling us Your 00:25:30.09\00:25:31.86 children and, Lord, we know as 00:25:31.86\00:25:35.33 parents that is an amazing 00:25:35.33\00:25:38.50 thing to love a child. 00:25:38.50\00:25:41.07 Thank you for knowing that You 00:25:41.07\00:25:43.10 love us in this way and may we 00:25:43.10\00:25:45.77 remind ourselves of these 00:25:45.77\00:25:47.44 truths every day and to focus 00:25:47.44\00:25:49.11 on Jesus, the Way, the Truth, 00:25:49.11\00:25:51.08 and the Life. 00:25:51.08\00:25:51.95 We pray in Jesus' name, amen. 00:25:52.85\00:25:54.15 >> Amen. 00:25:54.15\00:25:55.28 >> Don, thank you so much for 00:25:56.12\00:25:58.09 sharing with us your personal 00:25:58.09\00:26:00.89 and your professional insights 00:26:00.89\00:26:03.26 on It Is Written Canada. 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