¤¤ 00:00:00.30\00:00:34.10 [film reel clicking] 00:00:34.10\00:00:37.50 >> Hello and welcome to It Is 00:00:42.97\00:00:44.67 Written Canada. 00:00:44.67\00:00:46.14 Thank you for joining us. 00:00:46.14\00:00:47.84 Last week you will remember 00:00:47.84\00:00:49.71 that we met with Nwamiko 00:00:49.71\00:00:51.71 Madden and his story was 00:00:51.71\00:00:54.55 unusual; a young man who, 00:00:54.55\00:00:58.09 before he was born, his mother 00:00:58.09\00:01:00.92 had dedicated him to the Lord. 00:01:00.92\00:01:02.56 Now he didn't know anything 00:01:02.56\00:01:03.99 about this, but when he went 00:01:03.99\00:01:05.63 to school, he said to himself, 00:01:05.63\00:01:08.03 "I wanna make a name for God." 00:01:08.03\00:01:10.30 And so in his own heart he had 00:01:10.30\00:01:12.93 a desire to serve the Lord, he 00:01:12.93\00:01:15.04 wanted to glorify God, but no 00:01:15.04\00:01:17.91 one knew about his faith and 00:01:17.91\00:01:19.97 so he wanted to share that 00:01:19.97\00:01:21.44 with his classmates, he wanted 00:01:21.44\00:01:23.08 to share it with the world. 00:01:23.08\00:01:24.48 And so he thought to himself, 00:01:24.48\00:01:25.85 "If I can become a well-known" 00:01:25.85\00:01:27.25 "actor, if I could become" 00:01:27.25\00:01:28.98 "famous then I can bring" 00:01:28.98\00:01:31.39 "glory to God." 00:01:31.39\00:01:33.02 And sure enough, God opened 00:01:33.02\00:01:35.06 door after door for him and he 00:01:35.06\00:01:36.96 shared that with us last week 00:01:36.96\00:01:38.43 and he was climbing higher and 00:01:38.43\00:01:40.66 higher in the acting world. 00:01:40.66\00:01:42.46 And then he got to a place 00:01:42.46\00:01:44.17 where he went to a prayer 00:01:44.17\00:01:46.00 meeting and he had to make 00:01:46.00\00:01:47.57 a decision. 00:01:47.57\00:01:49.17 God was speaking to him and 00:01:49.17\00:01:50.94 saying to him, "You're not" 00:01:50.94\00:01:52.84 "gonna go on to the next set," 00:01:52.84\00:01:54.31 "you're not going to go to" 00:01:54.31\00:01:55.84 "the next level, you're not" 00:01:55.84\00:01:56.98 "going to go to L.A.," and he 00:01:56.98\00:01:58.95 felt this conviction of the 00:01:58.95\00:02:00.92 Holy Spirit and he was 00:02:00.92\00:02:03.18 wrestling with this in 00:02:03.18\00:02:04.72 his heart. 00:02:04.72\00:02:06.05 And then he began to tell us a 00:02:06.05\00:02:07.69 story about how he had decided 00:02:07.69\00:02:09.92 not to go to L.A. and then a 00:02:09.92\00:02:12.26 friend called him and then I 00:02:12.26\00:02:15.13 rudely interrupted his story. 00:02:15.13\00:02:18.57 And so, Nwamiko, you're here 00:02:18.57\00:02:20.04 with us today. 00:02:20.04\00:02:21.54 I want you to go back and 00:02:21.54\00:02:22.87 kinda retell that story and 00:02:22.87\00:02:24.51 then continue it past the 00:02:24.51\00:02:26.91 cliff-hanger where I 00:02:26.91\00:02:28.31 cut you off. 00:02:28.31\00:02:29.41 >> Sure thing. 00:02:29.41\00:02:30.88 Yeah, so that was perfect 00:02:30.88\00:02:32.11 timing, by the way. 00:02:32.11\00:02:33.88 What happened at that point 00:02:33.88\00:02:35.15 was I had gotten back in 00:02:35.15\00:02:37.95 contact with my friend and he 00:02:37.95\00:02:39.72 basically said he was in a 00:02:39.72\00:02:41.09 crisis of his life and he 00:02:41.09\00:02:42.72 basically came to see me. 00:02:42.72\00:02:44.43 He was extremely nervous, came 00:02:44.43\00:02:46.86 to my house, put me downstairs 00:02:46.86\00:02:48.26 in my basement and made sure 00:02:48.26\00:02:49.83 no one was in the house and he 00:02:49.83\00:02:51.30 says, "Listen, I'm gonna tell" 00:02:51.30\00:02:52.43 "you something I have not" 00:02:52.43\00:02:53.50 "told a single sole." 00:02:53.50\00:02:54.30 "Are you ready?" 00:02:54.30\00:02:55.47 And I'm like, "Yes," 00:02:55.47\00:02:56.54 "what happened?" 00:02:56.54\00:02:57.67 And he's like, "Listen," 00:02:57.67\00:02:59.47 "it was me and my girlfriend" 00:02:59.47\00:03:01.61 "and my son in the city and I" 00:03:01.61\00:03:03.61 "was working construction" 00:03:03.61\00:03:04.88 "and then I got offered" 00:03:04.88\00:03:05.85 "to do something. 00:03:05.85\00:03:06.98 "I got offered $50,000 to" 00:03:06.98\00:03:09.25 "participate in a grow op." 00:03:09.25\00:03:11.79 So this is when marijuana was 00:03:11.79\00:03:13.66 illegal, right. 00:03:13.66\00:03:15.02 So he was gonna go up in the 00:03:15.02\00:03:16.93 northern woods of Quebec and 00:03:16.93\00:03:18.69 grow this marijuana for some, 00:03:18.69\00:03:20.06 you know, some mob boss and he 00:03:20.06\00:03:21.66 was gonna make all this money 00:03:21.66\00:03:23.00 and everything was gonna be 00:03:23.00\00:03:24.10 great, right. 00:03:24.10\00:03:24.83 So he says, "Everything was" 00:03:24.83\00:03:25.83 "going amazing, about three" 00:03:25.83\00:03:26.97 "months in, they're about" 00:03:26.97\00:03:28.00 "like five to ten days from" 00:03:28.00\00:03:29.27 "the harvest, the plants were" 00:03:29.27\00:03:30.57 "taller than you, Nwamiko," 00:03:30.57\00:03:31.67 he said, and he's like, 00:03:31.67\00:03:32.87 "Everything was going great." 00:03:32.87\00:03:34.04 And then he's like, "One day" 00:03:34.04\00:03:34.98 "I got up at 6:00 in the" 00:03:34.98\00:03:36.04 "morning, not a cloud in the" 00:03:36.04\00:03:37.11 "sky, I look around and look," 00:03:37.11\00:03:38.28 "it's a beautiful day, all" 00:03:38.28\00:03:39.91 "this stuff is growing, like," 00:03:39.91\00:03:41.12 "life is good." 00:03:41.12\00:03:42.52 And then all of a sudden as 00:03:42.52\00:03:43.99 he's looking at everything, he 00:03:43.99\00:03:45.95 looks outside and he sees this 00:03:45.95\00:03:47.96 one cloud and this one cloud 00:03:47.96\00:03:51.26 is perfectly shaped 00:03:51.26\00:03:52.73 like an angel. 00:03:52.73\00:03:54.23 And he said you could see the 00:03:54.23\00:03:55.40 chest, the abdominals, the 00:03:55.40\00:03:56.83 arms outstretched, the wings, 00:03:56.83\00:03:57.93 and it had a sword in its hand 00:03:57.93\00:03:59.43 and it was slowly turning 00:03:59.43\00:04:01.00 towards the ground where he 00:04:01.00\00:04:02.44 was standing. 00:04:02.44\00:04:03.71 And he said literally he felt 00:04:03.71\00:04:05.01 the hair on the back of his 00:04:05.01\00:04:06.24 neck stand up so he runs 00:04:06.24\00:04:08.01 inside and he wakes up the two 00:04:08.01\00:04:09.64 other guys who are inside. 00:04:09.64\00:04:10.91 He's like, "Guys, guys, guys," 00:04:10.91\00:04:11.81 "you gotta come see this!" 00:04:11.81\00:04:12.75 "Come see this!" 00:04:12.75\00:04:13.72 And they're like, "What?" 00:04:13.72\00:04:14.25 He like, "Wake up," and 00:04:14.25\00:04:15.38 they're like, "Is it the cops?" 00:04:15.38\00:04:15.98 "No, no, no!" 00:04:15.98\00:04:16.79 "Come, come, come, come, come!" 00:04:16.79\00:04:17.45 Run outside, he literally 00:04:17.45\00:04:18.39 says, he runs outside and he 00:04:18.39\00:04:19.92 goes, "Look! Behold!" 00:04:19.92\00:04:21.86 And they're like, 00:04:21.86\00:04:22.89 "What, what, what?" 00:04:22.89\00:04:23.99 And he's like, "You guys" 00:04:23.99\00:04:25.03 "don't see it?" 00:04:25.03\00:04:25.99 They're like, "See what?" 00:04:25.99\00:04:27.03 He's like, "You guys don't" 00:04:27.03\00:04:27.73 "see the angel?" 00:04:27.73\00:04:28.83 They're like, "Dude, stop" 00:04:28.83\00:04:29.76 "using the boss's stuff, man," 00:04:29.76\00:04:30.50 and they, you know, turn 00:04:30.50\00:04:31.83 around and walk away and he's 00:04:31.83\00:04:32.97 like, "No, I'm not high!" 00:04:32.97\00:04:34.10 He's like, "You guys don't" 00:04:34.10\00:04:35.37 "see the angel?" 00:04:35.37\00:04:36.47 And they're like, 00:04:36.47\00:04:37.31 "Whatever, man." 00:04:37.31\00:04:38.54 And so he kinda just was just 00:04:38.54\00:04:40.04 like what a weird moment that 00:04:40.04\00:04:41.31 was, but a couple days later 00:04:41.31\00:04:43.18 instead of my friend waking 00:04:43.18\00:04:44.78 them up, it was the sound 00:04:44.78\00:04:45.81 of a [propeller sound]. 00:04:45.81\00:04:47.65 It was an RCMP helicopter. 00:04:47.65\00:04:49.52 So an RCMP helicopter swoops 00:04:49.52\00:04:51.72 down early in the morning and 00:04:51.72\00:04:53.15 they literally get up like 00:04:53.15\00:04:54.82 headless chicken, just start 00:04:54.82\00:04:55.89 grabbing their stuff trying to 00:04:55.89\00:04:56.96 put it in their pockets and 00:04:56.96\00:04:57.93 then they hide from the 00:04:57.93\00:04:59.23 windows to pretend like 00:04:59.23\00:05:00.73 they're not there and the 00:05:00.73\00:05:01.86 helicopter goes to land and 00:05:01.86\00:05:02.90 they're like, "Now we gotta" 00:05:02.90\00:05:03.90 "make a break for it." 00:05:03.90\00:05:04.97 And so they literally grab 00:05:04.97\00:05:06.03 their stuff and sprint, burst 00:05:06.03\00:05:07.00 out the doors and as soon as 00:05:07.00\00:05:08.00 they burst out the doors the 00:05:08.00\00:05:09.07 helicopter wasn't actually 00:05:09.07\00:05:10.21 fully landed and it saw them 00:05:10.21\00:05:11.41 and so it came straight 00:05:11.41\00:05:12.64 towards them. 00:05:12.64\00:05:13.88 And so they're like, 00:05:13.88\00:05:14.71 "Into the woods!" 00:05:14.71\00:05:15.74 So they start running, those 00:05:15.74\00:05:16.54 three guys, running into the 00:05:16.54\00:05:17.55 woods, trying to get reception 00:05:17.55\00:05:18.48 from a friend to come pick 00:05:18.48\00:05:19.51 them up, but they can't get 00:05:19.51\00:05:20.88 reception 'cause they're in 00:05:20.88\00:05:22.02 the middle of nowhere and so 00:05:22.02\00:05:23.05 they literally split and then 00:05:23.05\00:05:24.05 the helicopter is chasing them 00:05:24.05\00:05:24.82 over the trees. 00:05:24.82\00:05:26.02 My friend splits away, 00:05:26.02\00:05:27.39 helicopter chases the other 00:05:27.39\00:05:28.66 guys and he makes it out. 00:05:28.66\00:05:30.23 He walks like two or three 00:05:30.23\00:05:31.73 days to get back to the city. 00:05:31.73\00:05:32.99 And he's like, "Nwamiko," 00:05:32.99\00:05:34.63 "I walked three days to get" 00:05:34.63\00:05:36.06 "back to the city." 00:05:36.06\00:05:37.67 "I have no job, I have no" 00:05:37.67\00:05:39.00 "prospects and I just have" 00:05:39.00\00:05:40.04 "one question for you." 00:05:40.04\00:05:41.47 He's like, "You were the" 00:05:41.47\00:05:42.67 "really religious kid in" 00:05:42.67\00:05:43.74 "elementary school," 00:05:43.74\00:05:45.14 "why did God do this to me?" 00:05:45.14\00:05:48.14 >> So, Nwamiko, what-- tell us 00:05:48.14\00:05:50.61 what happened to your friend. 00:05:50.61\00:05:52.21 >> Yeah I'm-- yeah, I'm sure 00:05:52.21\00:05:53.98 you wanna know and so for me, 00:05:53.98\00:05:55.55 when I heard that, I was just 00:05:55.55\00:05:56.82 like, "Why in the world would" 00:05:56.82\00:05:57.92 "you ask me why did God do" 00:05:57.92\00:05:58.95 "this to you?" 00:05:58.95\00:06:00.06 I mean, 'cause this could have 00:06:00.06\00:06:01.29 been the Devil, too, right? 00:06:01.29\00:06:02.46 But I was-- I didn't say that 00:06:02.46\00:06:03.96 to him, but I was like, "OK," 00:06:03.96\00:06:05.63 "this is a pastoral moment," 00:06:05.63\00:06:07.30 "let me try to be invitational" 00:06:07.30\00:06:09.83 "to him," and I said, "Buddy," 00:06:09.83\00:06:12.00 "do you know where you are in" 00:06:12.00\00:06:13.67 "your life, do you know where" 00:06:13.67\00:06:15.04 "your life is, do you know" 00:06:15.04\00:06:16.17 "what life is about?" 00:06:16.17\00:06:17.91 And he's like, "I don't," you 00:06:17.91\00:06:19.24 know, and I was like, 00:06:19.24\00:06:20.41 "Do you wanna know?" 00:06:20.41\00:06:21.74 And he's like, "Well, I guess" 00:06:21.74\00:06:22.78 "I got no better choice." 00:06:22.78\00:06:23.98 I was like, "So why don't we" 00:06:23.98\00:06:24.91 "study the Bible?" 00:06:24.91\00:06:26.11 He's like, "Study the Bible?" 00:06:26.11\00:06:27.02 And I was like, "Yeah!" 00:06:27.02\00:06:28.12 "'Cause I can tell you what" 00:06:28.12\00:06:29.12 "God wants to do with your" 00:06:29.12\00:06:30.15 "life that way." 00:06:30.15\00:06:31.05 And he's like, "Yeah, I guess" 00:06:31.05\00:06:32.22 "we can do that." 00:06:32.22\00:06:33.25 So we start studying 00:06:33.25\00:06:34.39 the Bible. 00:06:34.39\00:06:35.22 [MIKE] Were you a good Bible 00:06:35.22\00:06:36.42 study giver? 00:06:36.42\00:06:37.89 >> I've never given Bible 00:06:37.89\00:06:39.56 studies in my life, but I felt 00:06:39.56\00:06:40.83 like Mark Finley in that 00:06:40.83\00:06:42.06 moment, I just felt like the 00:06:42.06\00:06:42.86 door was opened, like... 00:06:42.86\00:06:44.00 >> It was your first time. 00:06:44.00\00:06:45.13 >> Yeah, the first 00:06:45.13\00:06:45.97 opportunity. 00:06:45.97\00:06:46.94 I'm like, "You should take" 00:06:46.94\00:06:47.94 "Bible studies," and I'm like, 00:06:47.94\00:06:48.84 "Did I just say that?" you 00:06:48.84\00:06:49.94 know, "Who just said that," 00:06:49.94\00:06:51.01 right. 00:06:51.01\00:06:51.47 And so I'm like, "Yeah," 00:06:51.57\00:06:52.51 "I gotta give this guy" 00:06:52.51\00:06:53.51 "Bible studies." 00:06:53.51\00:06:54.71 So I go find some Bible study 00:06:54.71\00:06:56.04 guides, like, itiswritten.com, 00:06:56.04\00:06:57.35 or amazing-- like, just, you 00:06:57.35\00:06:58.71 know, some other ministry or 00:06:58.71\00:07:00.05 something like that and then I 00:07:00.05\00:07:01.58 got the study guides and then 00:07:01.58\00:07:03.35 we started studying the Bible 00:07:03.35\00:07:04.42 together and wow! 00:07:04.42\00:07:05.99 I mean, it was a complete 00:07:05.99\00:07:07.42 transformation. 00:07:07.42\00:07:08.82 His life changed, he saw the 00:07:08.82\00:07:10.43 truth for the first time, his 00:07:10.43\00:07:12.03 mind was blown, I could tell 00:07:12.03\00:07:13.19 you all these different 00:07:13.19\00:07:14.40 miracles, I mean, on one night 00:07:14.40\00:07:15.53 we studied about family 00:07:15.53\00:07:18.07 relations and, like, he was 00:07:18.07\00:07:19.90 like, "So you're saying I--" 00:07:19.90\00:07:21.44 the marriage plan, he's like, 00:07:21.44\00:07:22.94 "So you're saying I shouldn't" 00:07:22.94\00:07:23.91 "be sleeping with my" 00:07:23.91\00:07:25.27 "girlfriend right now until" 00:07:25.27\00:07:26.34 "you get married?" 00:07:26.34\00:07:27.54 And I was like, "Is that what" 00:07:27.54\00:07:28.51 "the Bible is saying?" 00:07:28.51\00:07:29.61 And he's like, "Hmm." 00:07:29.61\00:07:31.05 So he drops me off one night, 00:07:31.05\00:07:32.35 just to give you an example of 00:07:32.35\00:07:33.42 how the Lord is working in 00:07:33.42\00:07:34.32 this man's life, and then I 00:07:34.32\00:07:35.25 remember he dropped me off at 00:07:35.25\00:07:36.48 my house after the Bible study 00:07:36.48\00:07:37.32 and he stayed in the car for a 00:07:37.32\00:07:38.52 couple minutes then drove off. 00:07:38.52\00:07:39.99 And for-- you do that for 00:07:39.99\00:07:41.16 men-- for ladies, but you 00:07:41.16\00:07:42.46 don't usually do that for 00:07:42.46\00:07:43.56 guys, but he had said a prayer 00:07:43.56\00:07:44.53 in the car. 00:07:44.53\00:07:45.69 He said, "Lord, give me a" 00:07:45.69\00:07:46.83 "sign so that when I get home" 00:07:46.83\00:07:48.03 "I know that it's not--" 00:07:48.03\00:07:49.26 "I'm not supposed to sleep" 00:07:49.26\00:07:50.27 "with my wife." 00:07:50.27\00:07:51.20 He gets home, opens the door, 00:07:51.20\00:07:52.47 she's like, "Honey, you'll" 00:07:52.47\00:07:53.90 "never guess what happened!" 00:07:53.90\00:07:55.00 He's like, "What?" 00:07:55.00\00:07:56.14 He's like, "Look at what" 00:07:56.14\00:07:56.97 "the cat did!" 00:07:56.97\00:07:58.11 The cat pooped right on his 00:07:58.11\00:07:59.04 side of the bed right where he 00:07:59.04\00:08:00.11 would sleep that night. 00:08:00.11\00:08:01.44 [laughs] And so God is telling 00:08:01.44\00:08:02.91 him, "Don't sleep in the bed" 00:08:02.91\00:08:03.98 "tonight," you know. 00:08:03.98\00:08:05.18 So it was just like, I mean, 00:08:05.18\00:08:06.85 mind-blowingly obvious what 00:08:06.85\00:08:08.25 God was trying to do, you 00:08:08.25\00:08:09.92 know, and so, but that was, 00:08:09.92\00:08:11.89 like, the beginning of the 00:08:11.89\00:08:13.29 conversion experience and then 00:08:13.29\00:08:15.12 we started working together to 00:08:15.12\00:08:16.89 study the Bible with 00:08:16.89\00:08:17.89 other people. 00:08:17.89\00:08:19.09 So he got baptized, his wife 00:08:19.09\00:08:21.20 got baptized, they got married 00:08:21.20\00:08:23.00 and then we started sharing 00:08:23.00\00:08:24.80 our faith with other people 00:08:24.80\00:08:26.27 and bringing them into 00:08:26.27\00:08:27.20 the faith. 00:08:27.20\00:08:28.54 So that was God saying to me, 00:08:28.54\00:08:30.04 He's like, "Nwamiko, all this" 00:08:30.04\00:08:32.01 "would not have happened if" 00:08:32.01\00:08:33.78 "you went to Los Angeles." 00:08:33.78\00:08:36.11 This was not-- this was before 00:08:36.11\00:08:37.41 cell phones were really 00:08:37.41\00:08:38.75 popular and stuff like that 00:08:38.75\00:08:39.98 and so I wouldn't have-- I 00:08:39.98\00:08:41.45 would have been in L.A. and 00:08:41.45\00:08:42.72 not gotten that phone call 00:08:42.72\00:08:43.95 when he was needing me the 00:08:43.95\00:08:45.39 most and so God is like, 00:08:45.39\00:08:46.82 "That's why I called you at" 00:08:46.82\00:08:48.29 "this time for this purpose." 00:08:48.29\00:08:50.03 >> So what happened next in 00:08:50.03\00:08:51.59 your journey? 00:08:51.59\00:08:52.86 >> Right, so at this point I'm 00:08:52.86\00:08:54.20 like, "Wow," just reeling from 00:08:54.20\00:08:55.83 seeing what God is doing with 00:08:55.83\00:08:56.93 my friend's life and other 00:08:56.93\00:08:58.33 people's lives as a result of 00:08:58.33\00:08:59.73 this and at this time I'm 00:08:59.73\00:09:01.80 trying to get closer to God 00:09:01.80\00:09:02.94 and saying, "OK, Lord, you" 00:09:02.94\00:09:03.87 "don't want me to go to" 00:09:03.87\00:09:05.11 "Hollywood, but I'll just" 00:09:05.11\00:09:06.14 "stay here and be an actor." 00:09:06.14\00:09:07.28 But I started reading, you 00:09:07.28\00:09:09.58 know, the Bible and other 00:09:09.58\00:09:11.58 inspired writings and that 00:09:11.58\00:09:13.52 information started to, for 00:09:13.52\00:09:14.95 the first time, to come clear 00:09:14.95\00:09:16.18 to me that God was actually 00:09:16.18\00:09:17.75 saying, "You know, this career" 00:09:17.75\00:09:19.29 "is something I might want you" 00:09:19.29\00:09:20.89 "to be stepping away from." 00:09:20.89\00:09:21.99 And then I came to that 00:09:21.99\00:09:23.79 conclusion base on the things 00:09:23.79\00:09:25.39 I was reading and I was like, 00:09:25.39\00:09:26.56 "Wow, OK," and it just was 00:09:26.56\00:09:28.03 really clear, right. 00:09:28.03\00:09:29.76 That summer I was like, there 00:09:29.76\00:09:31.30 was the possibility there was 00:09:31.30\00:09:32.80 gonna be a third season for 00:09:32.80\00:09:34.27 the show that I was working on 00:09:34.27\00:09:35.50 'cause it was doing really 00:09:35.50\00:09:36.74 well and it's an international 00:09:36.74\00:09:38.07 show, it was airing in Europe, 00:09:38.07\00:09:39.37 all over Europe, all over 00:09:39.37\00:09:40.94 Australia, and Canada, and the 00:09:40.94\00:09:42.88 States, so I was like, "Man, 00:09:42.88\00:09:44.11 "Lord, please don't let there" 00:09:44.11\00:09:45.21 "be a third season," because I 00:09:45.21\00:09:46.18 don't wanna say no to these 00:09:46.18\00:09:47.15 people, I wanna just go off 00:09:47.15\00:09:48.25 into the sunset because these 00:09:48.25\00:09:49.38 people had changed the diet on 00:09:49.38\00:09:51.29 set when I became vegetarian, 00:09:51.29\00:09:52.65 they changed the entire 00:09:52.65\00:09:54.12 shooting schedule for me so 00:09:54.12\00:09:55.86 that I didn't have to shoot on 00:09:55.86\00:09:57.06 Saturdays and I was like, 00:09:57.06\00:09:58.39 "I don't wanna say no to them," 00:09:58.39\00:09:59.39 right. 00:09:59.39\00:10:00.06 But I'll never forget, it was 00:10:00.06\00:10:01.73 like yesterday, one day in the 00:10:01.73\00:10:03.83 summer, it was, like, in June, 00:10:03.83\00:10:05.37 I woke up in the morning and I 00:10:05.37\00:10:07.04 felt the strongest impression 00:10:07.04\00:10:08.30 today is the day. 00:10:08.30\00:10:10.01 And I was like, "Today is the" 00:10:10.01\00:10:11.44 "day for what, Lord?" 00:10:11.44\00:10:12.97 You know, I'm like, "What" 00:10:12.97\00:10:14.58 "does that mean," you know. 00:10:14.58\00:10:16.04 I'm like, "I've already gone" 00:10:16.04\00:10:17.01 "through enough roller coaster" 00:10:17.01\00:10:18.38 "ride of my life," but He's 00:10:18.38\00:10:19.38 like, "Today is the day," so 00:10:19.38\00:10:20.62 I'm like, "OK, fine," so I 00:10:20.62\00:10:21.72 started studying the Bible and 00:10:21.72\00:10:23.12 then the phone rings and then 00:10:23.12\00:10:24.72 God is like, "Pray before you" 00:10:24.72\00:10:25.82 "answer the phone," and I'm 00:10:25.82\00:10:26.82 like, "I don't even have" 00:10:26.82\00:10:27.99 "enough time to like get the" 00:10:27.99\00:10:29.06 "ringer before," you know what 00:10:29.06\00:10:30.53 I mean, "the prayer's over." 00:10:30.53\00:10:31.96 And then He's like, 00:10:31.96\00:10:32.86 "Pray every single time." 00:10:32.86\00:10:33.90 So I pick up the phone, 00:10:33.90\00:10:34.73 it's my mom. 00:10:34.73\00:10:36.00 She's like, "Hey, Nwamiko," 00:10:36.00\00:10:37.10 "I know you're a big actor" 00:10:37.10\00:10:38.03 "and everything, but did you" 00:10:38.03\00:10:38.83 "wash the dishes?" 00:10:38.83\00:10:40.10 And I was like, "Uhh, I'm" 00:10:40.10\00:10:41.24 "gonna wash the dishes after" 00:10:41.24\00:10:42.24 "my study." 00:10:42.24\00:10:42.87 She's like, "OK, just make" 00:10:42.87\00:10:43.94 "sure you wash the dishes and" 00:10:43.94\00:10:44.84 "the windows need some" 00:10:44.84\00:10:45.94 "cleaning, too, and--" and 00:10:45.94\00:10:46.98 it's like, "OK, Mom, alright" 00:10:46.98\00:10:48.01 "we'll do that, alright, love" 00:10:48.01\00:10:48.84 "you, K, bye." [click] 00:10:48.84\00:10:50.01 And then I'm like, "OK, back" 00:10:50.01\00:10:51.55 "to my study," and I'm deep 00:10:51.55\00:10:52.61 into the study and it's 00:10:52.61\00:10:53.98 really, really interesting and 00:10:53.98\00:10:55.15 then the phone rings four more 00:10:55.15\00:10:57.32 times and guess what, every 00:10:57.32\00:10:59.45 single time... 00:10:59.45\00:11:00.69 [MIKE] It's your mom. 00:11:00.69\00:11:01.86 >> It's my mom, but God tells 00:11:01.86\00:11:03.59 me to pray before. 00:11:03.59\00:11:05.19 And I'm like, "Lord, speak" 00:11:05.19\00:11:06.93 "through me when I answer" 00:11:06.93\00:11:08.93 "this phone call," every 00:11:08.93\00:11:10.20 single time, I don't know why. 00:11:10.20\00:11:11.50 And so I'm just like-- it's 00:11:11.50\00:11:12.57 just like, and then the sixth 00:11:12.57\00:11:13.90 time the phone rings I'm like, 00:11:13.90\00:11:15.27 "Oh my goodness, Mom," 'cause 00:11:15.27\00:11:16.97 I'm studying for three hours, 00:11:16.97\00:11:18.04 I was really-- and I grab the 00:11:18.04\00:11:19.54 phone, praying, "Lord, calm" 00:11:19.54\00:11:21.38 "me down, help me to speak to" 00:11:21.38\00:11:23.18 "my mom in the right way." 00:11:23.18\00:11:24.88 "In Jesus' name, amen." 00:11:24.88\00:11:26.45 "Hello?" 00:11:26.45\00:11:27.78 "Nomo! Guess what!" 00:11:27.78\00:11:30.15 "It's the producers!" 00:11:30.15\00:11:31.42 "We got a third season" 00:11:31.42\00:11:32.72 "of the show!" 00:11:32.72\00:11:34.22 And I was like, "Get out" 00:11:34.22\00:11:35.66 "of town." 00:11:35.66\00:11:37.23 It literally was the producers 00:11:37.23\00:11:38.59 of the show and they're like, 00:11:38.59\00:11:40.03 "Guess what, this show went" 00:11:40.03\00:11:41.33 "so amazing last season, we" 00:11:41.33\00:11:42.93 "want you to come back, we" 00:11:42.93\00:11:44.33 want you to sing on the show." 00:11:44.33\00:11:45.60 And I didn't mention this 00:11:45.60\00:11:46.97 earlier, but, like, I had 00:11:46.97\00:11:48.34 gotten a small-time recording 00:11:48.34\00:11:49.97 contract, you know, and so the 00:11:49.97\00:11:51.84 music career was starting to 00:11:51.84\00:11:53.11 build up, but they're like, 00:11:53.11\00:11:54.28 "We want you to sing on the" 00:11:54.28\00:11:55.31 "show," we did an episode last 00:11:55.31\00:11:56.41 year where I sang on the show, 00:11:56.41\00:11:57.45 "We want you to sing again on" 00:11:57.45\00:11:58.48 "the show, we have a whole" 00:11:58.48\00:11:59.51 "bunch of ideas for your" 00:11:59.51\00:12:00.68 "character, everything is" 00:12:00.68\00:12:02.12 "going amazing and the show" 00:12:02.12\00:12:03.55 "is gonna be syndicated now" 00:12:03.55\00:12:04.99 "so it's even more money," 00:12:04.99\00:12:06.19 and I'm just like, 00:12:06.19\00:12:07.22 "Lord, have mercy." 00:12:07.22\00:12:08.29 And in my head he's saying all 00:12:08.29\00:12:09.49 this good stuff, but in my 00:12:09.49\00:12:10.83 mind I know I have to say no 00:12:10.83\00:12:12.19 to this and so I'm like, 00:12:12.19\00:12:13.26 "Lord, what do you want me to" 00:12:13.26\00:12:14.10 "do, Lord, what do you want" 00:12:14.10\00:12:15.10 "me to do?" 00:12:15.10\00:12:15.90 And so I tell them, "No," 00:12:15.90\00:12:17.07 "I can't." 00:12:17.07\00:12:18.27 "Listen, you guys are" 00:12:18.27\00:12:19.50 "amazing people, amazing" 00:12:19.50\00:12:20.50 "people, amazing writers," 00:12:20.50\00:12:21.60 "you've been amazing to me," 00:12:21.60\00:12:22.70 "but my journey's different." 00:12:22.70\00:12:23.81 "This is what I'm supposed to" 00:12:23.81\00:12:24.91 "be doing right now, you know, 00:12:24.91\00:12:26.11 "you guys are amazing people," 00:12:26.11\00:12:27.14 "you're going to be fine." 00:12:27.14\00:12:28.21 "OK, take care, bye." 00:12:28.21\00:12:29.44 And I was like, "I knew it." 00:12:29.44\00:12:31.21 "I knew it, how did I know it? 00:12:31.21\00:12:32.98 I knew it, I knew this call 00:12:32.98\00:12:34.12 was gonna come and I thought 00:12:34.12\00:12:35.82 that was it. 00:12:35.82\00:12:37.69 But there was more. 00:12:38.85\00:12:41.06 And so what happened was I was 00:12:41.06\00:12:42.89 like, "OK, well," 00:12:42.89\00:12:44.33 I guess I'm out of my career." 00:12:44.33\00:12:46.06 But then the next day I got a 00:12:46.06\00:12:47.66 phone call and it was my agent 00:12:47.66\00:12:48.96 saying, "OK, they want you to" 00:12:48.96\00:12:50.30 "come on and do three" 00:12:50.30\00:12:51.43 "goodbye episodes." 00:12:51.43\00:12:52.93 And I was like, man, I wanna 00:12:52.93\00:12:54.80 go back, I wanna get the 00:12:54.80\00:12:56.10 money, but I'm like, if I'm 00:12:56.10\00:12:57.44 going back I wanna do the 00:12:57.44\00:12:58.54 whole season, I'm not doing 00:12:58.54\00:12:59.74 just three episodes, right? 00:12:59.74\00:13:01.04 And so I was like, "Yeah," 00:13:01.04\00:13:02.24 "guys, my agent said they" 00:13:02.24\00:13:03.28 "want you just to come back" 00:13:03.28\00:13:04.38 "and do those three goodbye" 00:13:04.38\00:13:05.45 "episodes," and I was like, 00:13:05.45\00:13:06.45 "That's-- it's OK," like, I 00:13:06.45\00:13:07.62 have to make a clean-- 00:13:07.62\00:13:08.92 you know. 00:13:08.92\00:13:10.12 And then the next day my agent 00:13:10.12\00:13:11.12 says, "Listen, they're gonna" 00:13:11.12\00:13:12.32 "give you your own trailer," 00:13:12.32\00:13:13.46 "your own space, you don't" 00:13:13.46\00:13:14.52 "have to talk to them, just" 00:13:14.52\00:13:15.76 "be by yourself and do these" 00:13:15.76\00:13:16.96 "three goodbye episodes." 00:13:16.96\00:13:18.79 And I was like, "No, it's not" 00:13:18.79\00:13:19.89 "about them, I love the" 00:13:19.89\00:13:21.06 "people, they're great" 00:13:21.06\00:13:22.36 "people, they're such loving," 00:13:22.36\00:13:23.97 "kind people, I just know" 00:13:23.97\00:13:25.30 "that this is not my journey" 00:13:25.30\00:13:26.57 "right now." 00:13:26.57\00:13:27.94 And then my agent hangs up the 00:13:27.94\00:13:29.17 phone and he's like, "OK." 00:13:29.17\00:13:30.57 And then he calls me back the 00:13:30.57\00:13:31.47 third day and he's like, 00:13:31.47\00:13:32.54 "Listen, Nwamiko." 00:13:32.54\00:13:33.81 "They said to me, 'we can" 00:13:33.81\00:13:35.01 "delete your character with" 00:13:35.01\00:13:36.88 "the flick of our pen, but" 00:13:36.88\00:13:39.08 "there's over a million fans" 00:13:39.08\00:13:41.02 "in Europe and we as producers" 00:13:41.02\00:13:43.49 "don't see too many black role" 00:13:43.49\00:13:45.45 "models and so we think you" 00:13:45.45\00:13:48.02 "owe it to the fans to play" 00:13:48.02\00:13:50.23 "this character for the last" 00:13:50.23\00:13:51.69 "time and not destroy all" 00:13:51.69\00:13:54.96 "those fans, these worldwide" 00:13:54.96\00:13:56.56 "fans that have confidence" 00:13:56.56\00:13:57.83 "in you.'" 00:13:57.83\00:13:59.00 And I was like, "Lord," 00:13:59.00\00:14:00.14 "have mercy!" 00:14:00.14\00:14:01.27 I was like, "Doug Bachelor," 00:14:01.27\00:14:02.50 "Mark Finley, anybody!" 00:14:02.50\00:14:03.74 "Somebody talk to me!" 00:14:03.74\00:14:05.37 And then at the end of it, you 00:14:05.37\00:14:06.81 know, my agent said, "You know," 00:14:06.81\00:14:08.51 "if I got a role with Denzel" 00:14:08.51\00:14:10.05 "Washington where you're" 00:14:10.05\00:14:11.21 "playing his brother and it" 00:14:11.21\00:14:12.45 "was on a Saturday, you know," 00:14:12.45\00:14:13.42 "you wouldn't take it?" 00:14:13.42\00:14:14.45 I was like, "That was like the" 00:14:14.45\00:14:15.55 "first thing I told you, man." 00:14:15.55\00:14:16.95 And he's like, "Ah, I don't" 00:14:16.95\00:14:18.02 "get you," and "click," that 00:14:18.02\00:14:19.32 was the end of that phone call. 00:14:19.32\00:14:20.72 And that was the last time I 00:14:20.72\00:14:21.82 spoke to my agent. 00:14:21.82\00:14:22.89 So basically I tell my mother 00:14:22.89\00:14:24.26 this and she's kinda like, 00:14:24.26\00:14:25.79 "Oh, so there's no more" 00:14:25.79\00:14:27.13 "acting happening?" 00:14:27.13\00:14:28.46 And I was paying the mortgage 00:14:28.46\00:14:30.03 at the time so that didn't go 00:14:30.03\00:14:31.30 over too well... 00:14:31.30\00:14:32.77 >> Much more pressure on you. 00:14:32.77\00:14:34.14 >> Exactly and so I was like, 00:14:34.14\00:14:35.20 "What's gonna happen?" 00:14:35.20\00:14:36.37 And so she's like, "Well, I'm" 00:14:36.37\00:14:37.61 "gonna find a way to get" 00:14:37.61\00:14:38.54 "money," and she says, 00:14:38.54\00:14:39.71 "I'm gonna bring in some" 00:14:39.71\00:14:40.91 "student exchange students" 00:14:40.91\00:14:42.21 "and then they're gonna come" 00:14:42.21\00:14:43.85 "here and we'll get money from" 00:14:43.85\00:14:45.25 "that extra means of income." 00:14:45.25\00:14:46.98 And so this guy comes over to 00:14:46.98\00:14:48.92 the house not too long after 00:14:48.92\00:14:50.82 and he's inspecting the house 00:14:50.82\00:14:52.29 and he's looking and picking 00:14:52.29\00:14:53.86 things up and he's like, you 00:14:53.86\00:14:55.16 know, and with the little 00:14:55.16\00:14:56.29 notepad and it felt so 00:14:56.29\00:14:57.39 demeaning 'cause I was 00:14:57.39\00:14:58.79 supporting my mom and now she 00:14:58.79\00:15:00.46 has to do this and it was such 00:15:00.46\00:15:02.46 a depressing moment and I 00:15:02.46\00:15:03.77 felt, like, a weird energy and 00:15:03.77\00:15:05.20 depression in the house and I 00:15:05.20\00:15:06.74 was just, I was starting to 00:15:06.74\00:15:08.17 get almost emotional, no tears 00:15:08.17\00:15:09.60 were coming out and then 00:15:09.60\00:15:11.24 literally at around 8:00 at 00:15:11.24\00:15:12.84 night it felt like there was, 00:15:12.84\00:15:14.44 like, something in my room and 00:15:14.44\00:15:16.24 I couldn't pray and I felt 00:15:16.24\00:15:17.85 really scared and like there 00:15:17.85\00:15:19.25 was an energy in the house and 00:15:19.25\00:15:20.38 I started to cry and I was 00:15:20.38\00:15:21.58 just crying and crying and 00:15:21.58\00:15:22.72 going through, like, a 00:15:22.72\00:15:24.02 depression and I went to bed 00:15:24.02\00:15:25.22 in that state and at around 00:15:25.22\00:15:28.06 3:00 in the morning the phone 00:15:28.06\00:15:29.86 rings and I can tell it's the 00:15:29.86\00:15:31.29 long-distance ring. 00:15:31.29\00:15:32.69 And I'm not up, I'm not 00:15:32.69\00:15:34.03 answering the phone 'cause in 00:15:34.03\00:15:35.40 the state that I'm in, I can't 00:15:35.40\00:15:36.40 talk to anybody, right. 00:15:36.40\00:15:37.60 But my younger brother plays 00:15:37.60\00:15:38.90 video games all night so he 00:15:38.90\00:15:40.07 answers the phone, comes to 00:15:40.07\00:15:41.74 find out it's my father, my 00:15:41.74\00:15:43.64 father who's not in Canada, 00:15:43.64\00:15:45.67 who's in Jamaica and my dad 00:15:45.67\00:15:47.98 calls and he's like, "I wanna" 00:15:47.98\00:15:49.54 "speak to Nwamiko," so my 00:15:49.54\00:15:50.71 brother comes in, he's like, 00:15:50.71\00:15:51.81 "Dad wants to talk to you," 00:15:51.81\00:15:52.85 so I'm like, "Hello?" 00:15:52.85\00:15:54.08 And he's like, "Nwamiko," 00:15:54.08\00:15:54.98 "what's going on?" 00:15:54.98\00:15:56.18 And I'm like, "What do you" 00:15:56.18\00:15:57.15 "mean what's going on?" 00:15:57.15\00:15:58.32 He's like, "I used to have" 00:15:58.32\00:15:59.52 "these things from since" 00:15:59.52\00:16:00.76 "childhood." 00:16:00.76\00:16:01.66 "Tell me what's going on." 00:16:01.66\00:16:03.93 And he's like, "You're doing" 00:16:03.93\00:16:05.26 "something, you're deciding" 00:16:05.26\00:16:06.39 "about something," and I was 00:16:06.39\00:16:07.40 like, "Yeah, about acting." 00:16:07.40\00:16:08.46 And he's like, "I knew it," 00:16:08.46\00:16:09.73 "don't make any decision 'til" 00:16:09.73\00:16:10.80 "I come back to Canada." 00:16:10.80\00:16:12.03 "Don't make any decision," 00:16:12.03\00:16:13.10 "alright?" 00:16:13.10\00:16:14.10 I was like, "Yeah...what..." 00:16:14.10\00:16:15.60 I didn't know what to say 00:16:15.60\00:16:17.34 'cause I didn't tell him I was 00:16:17.34\00:16:18.87 quitting acting so there's no 00:16:18.87\00:16:20.68 way he could have known that. 00:16:20.68\00:16:22.54 Come to find out, he tells me 00:16:22.54\00:16:24.01 that he was building a house 00:16:24.01\00:16:25.41 in Jamaica, right, and he's 00:16:25.41\00:16:26.88 into real estate and doing 00:16:26.88\00:16:28.25 some of those other things, 00:16:28.25\00:16:29.68 but building a house in 00:16:29.68\00:16:31.02 Jamaica, didn't even have a 00:16:31.02\00:16:32.19 phone installed in the house, 00:16:32.19\00:16:33.09 but he saw a vision and in 00:16:33.09\00:16:34.72 that vision basically, he 00:16:34.72\00:16:36.09 interpreted it as it was 00:16:36.09\00:16:37.79 about me, three different 00:16:37.79\00:16:39.16 scenes, I don't have time to 00:16:39.16\00:16:40.16 tell them now, but the three 00:16:40.16\00:16:41.66 different scenes he 00:16:41.66\00:16:42.93 interpreted as me needing to 00:16:42.93\00:16:44.57 go back into the entertainment 00:16:44.57\00:16:46.27 industry. 00:16:46.27\00:16:47.47 And I was like, "But that" 00:16:47.47\00:16:48.47 "doesn't go with what I've" 00:16:48.47\00:16:49.90 "been reading and studying," 00:16:49.90\00:16:51.24 but he's like, "That's what" 00:16:51.24\00:16:52.21 "I'm seeing, you're supposed" 00:16:52.21\00:16:53.21 "to go back into the industry," 00:16:53.21\00:16:54.34 and I was like, "This is not" 00:16:54.34\00:16:55.11 "making sense." 00:16:55.11\00:16:56.24 And so I went to my mom next 00:16:56.24\00:16:57.48 and I had a heart-to-heart 00:16:57.48\00:16:58.61 with her and I said, "What's" 00:16:58.61\00:16:59.95 "going on with Dad? Like..." 00:16:59.95\00:17:01.52 And she's like, "Yeah, he's" 00:17:01.52\00:17:03.05 "had things like that before," 00:17:03.05\00:17:04.42 "but I forgot to tell you" 00:17:04.42\00:17:05.52 "something; when you were a" 00:17:05.52\00:17:07.02 "child, I dedicated you to" 00:17:07.02\00:17:08.46 "God before you were born." 00:17:08.46\00:17:10.86 "That's why this is happening." 00:17:10.86\00:17:12.43 And I was like, "Thanks, Mom," 00:17:12.43\00:17:14.46 you know what I mean? 00:17:14.46\00:17:16.00 Thanks for letting me know 00:17:16.00\00:17:17.30 now, you know, but she 00:17:17.30\00:17:18.90 literally is like, "Yeah, I" 00:17:18.90\00:17:20.37 "dedicated you to God so" 00:17:20.37\00:17:21.74 "you're actually supposed to" 00:17:21.74\00:17:22.80 "be dedicated to God's" 00:17:22.80\00:17:23.97 "service." 00:17:23.97\00:17:24.97 And I was like, "Oh, wow!" 00:17:24.97\00:17:27.18 And so I was like, that's why 00:17:27.18\00:17:28.54 I came out the womb basically, 00:17:28.54\00:17:30.51 like, believing right away 00:17:30.51\00:17:31.91 that there was a God the way 00:17:31.91\00:17:33.11 that I did and so now 00:17:33.11\00:17:34.65 everything started to make 00:17:34.65\00:17:35.82 sense and I was like, "OK," 00:17:35.82\00:17:36.85 "Lord, like, what's next?" 00:17:36.85\00:17:38.35 And I was super depressed, 00:17:38.35\00:17:39.99 super emotional 'cause I'm 00:17:39.99\00:17:41.16 like, I just gave up five 00:17:41.16\00:17:42.39 years of my life and what the 00:17:42.39\00:17:43.59 momentum that I was building 00:17:43.59\00:17:45.03 and so I'm like, "Lord, what's" 00:17:45.03\00:17:46.29 "next, like, I have nothing," 00:17:46.29\00:17:47.56 and, you know, it's funny 00:17:47.56\00:17:48.86 because I tell people, people 00:17:48.86\00:17:50.30 say, you know, money talks, 00:17:50.30\00:17:51.87 right, but the problem with 00:17:51.87\00:17:53.64 money is that she'll say 00:17:53.64\00:17:54.94 things like, "Oh, you're so" 00:17:54.94\00:17:56.34 "great that you have me now," 00:17:56.34\00:17:57.97 you know, "I'm gonna be with" 00:17:57.97\00:17:59.51 "you forever," but then the 00:17:59.51\00:18:01.01 last thing money said to me 00:18:01.01\00:18:02.34 was, "Bye-bye," 'cause money 00:18:02.34\00:18:03.41 left. [laughs] 00:18:03.41\00:18:05.11 Because the money leaves when 00:18:05.11\00:18:06.78 the party's over, so to speak, 00:18:06.78\00:18:08.65 you know, and I was no longer 00:18:08.65\00:18:10.12 in the entertainment industry 00:18:10.12\00:18:11.72 and, like, certain things 00:18:11.72\00:18:12.89 happened and it was just 00:18:12.89\00:18:14.36 really difficult so I was 00:18:14.36\00:18:15.56 like, "OK, Lord, what's next?" 00:18:15.56\00:18:16.96 And I got an offer to work at 00:18:16.96\00:18:18.83 a Christian school as a 00:18:18.83\00:18:21.06 substitute teacher and I was 00:18:21.06\00:18:23.47 like, I didn't wanna take this 00:18:23.47\00:18:25.03 job 'cause it was literally a 00:18:25.03\00:18:26.33 rough, dead-end kind of job 00:18:26.33\00:18:27.67 right beside the train tracks, 00:18:27.67\00:18:28.97 literally there was like a 00:18:28.97\00:18:30.24 train right there beside the 00:18:30.24\00:18:31.14 school and I was like, 00:18:31.14\00:18:32.31 "I don't wanna take this job," 00:18:32.31\00:18:33.34 and it's really problem kids 00:18:33.34\00:18:34.64 and stuff, but I was like, 00:18:34.64\00:18:35.84 "OK, God, if You're telling" 00:18:35.84\00:18:37.15 "me to take this job, I'll" 00:18:37.15\00:18:38.68 give You a chance to show up." 00:18:38.68\00:18:40.35 "Tonight, there's gonna be a" 00:18:40.35\00:18:41.62 "live presentation by a" 00:18:41.62\00:18:43.02 "pastor via satellite and if" 00:18:43.02\00:18:44.65 he wears a red tie tonight," 00:18:44.65\00:18:46.55 "I will take that job" 00:18:46.55\00:18:48.29 "no problem, right." 00:18:48.29\00:18:49.96 But if you don't do this, I'm" 00:18:49.96\00:18:51.83 "not gonna do anything" 00:18:51.83\00:18:53.13 "because all this crazy stuff" 00:18:53.13\00:18:54.20 "is happening to me and" 00:18:54.20\00:18:55.16 "You're not speaking to me" 00:18:55.16\00:18:56.30 "and telling me what I'm" 00:18:56.30\00:18:57.23 "supposed to do." 00:18:57.23\00:18:58.43 "So that's it, that's all." 00:18:58.43\00:18:59.37 So I go to the event that 00:18:59.37\00:19:00.54 night, sit at my church and 00:19:00.54\00:19:01.67 usually people don't wear red 00:19:01.67\00:19:02.84 ties because it's just not 00:19:02.84\00:19:04.07 good on camera, you know what 00:19:04.07\00:19:05.14 I mean? 00:19:05.14\00:19:05.91 As you guys would know. 00:19:05.91\00:19:07.38 Guy comes out, Pastor Walter 00:19:07.38\00:19:08.61 Pearson comes out, 00:19:08.61\00:19:09.54 bam, red tie. 00:19:09.54\00:19:10.78 I was like, "No!" [laughs] 00:19:10.78\00:19:13.08 So I was like, "Lord, did You" 00:19:13.08\00:19:14.85 "really just do that to me?" 00:19:14.85\00:19:17.12 And I was like, "OK, I guess" 00:19:17.12\00:19:18.89 "I gotta go work at the school." 00:19:18.89\00:19:20.66 So I work at the school for a 00:19:20.66\00:19:21.59 month and it was amazing 00:19:21.59\00:19:22.92 because it was almost like God 00:19:22.92\00:19:23.99 slapping me on the wrist, but 00:19:23.99\00:19:25.19 it was like, "Wow, I got a" 00:19:25.19\00:19:27.20 "slap on the wrist from God," 00:19:27.20\00:19:29.03 you know what I mean? 00:19:29.03\00:19:30.60 And He indicated by another 00:19:30.60\00:19:32.47 sign shortly thereafter that 00:19:32.47\00:19:34.34 He wanted me to stay on with 00:19:34.34\00:19:35.70 the school for a little bit 00:19:35.70\00:19:36.91 and so I did that for a little 00:19:36.91\00:19:38.01 bit of time, but that was the 00:19:38.01\00:19:39.44 first time I started seeing 00:19:39.44\00:19:40.51 that God was leading in my 00:19:40.51\00:19:41.64 life, He's saying, "Because" 00:19:41.64\00:19:42.74 "you've given me everything," 00:19:42.74\00:19:43.85 "now I can give you" 00:19:43.85\00:19:44.81 "everything, now I can show" 00:19:44.81\00:19:45.91 "you everything." 00:19:45.91\00:19:46.82 "You've emptied yourself so" 00:19:46.82\00:19:48.05 "now I can fill you up." 00:19:48.05\00:19:49.95 It was amazing, it was like a 00:19:49.95\00:19:52.02 soul-searching time in my 00:19:52.02\00:19:54.22 life, I basically just 00:19:54.22\00:19:55.66 withdraw from hanging out with 00:19:55.66\00:19:57.16 friends and everything and the 00:19:57.16\00:19:59.03 way God told me I needed to do 00:19:59.03\00:20:00.83 it was I started studying the 00:20:00.83\00:20:02.30 Bible, but He said, "You need" 00:20:02.30\00:20:03.57 "to turn off the television" 00:20:03.57\00:20:05.00 and turn on the Ellen-vision." 00:20:05.00\00:20:06.37 [laughs] 00:20:06.37\00:20:07.27 We have an inspired writer 00:20:07.27\00:20:08.97 that we've heard about, an 00:20:08.97\00:20:10.44 author, Ellen White and her 00:20:10.44\00:20:11.87 writings and there's some 00:20:11.87\00:20:13.21 powerful material in those 00:20:13.21\00:20:14.58 writings and so I said, "You" 00:20:14.58\00:20:15.98 "know, I heard a lot about" 00:20:15.98\00:20:17.21 "these things, let me inspect" 00:20:17.21\00:20:18.01 "them for myself." 00:20:18.01\00:20:19.21 And so I started to do some 00:20:19.21\00:20:20.38 introspection and here's the 00:20:20.38\00:20:21.42 crazy thing because my gift 00:20:21.42\00:20:22.92 was my imagination, but what I 00:20:22.92\00:20:24.82 notice about films is that you 00:20:24.82\00:20:26.62 get so sucked into that world, 00:20:26.62\00:20:28.86 after it's over, you still 00:20:28.86\00:20:30.83 want to exist in the world 00:20:30.83\00:20:32.09 that you were a part of. 00:20:32.09\00:20:33.63 Right? 00:20:33.63\00:20:34.56 Like it... 00:20:34.56\00:20:35.90 It diminishes your 00:20:36.83\00:20:38.27 appreciation for reality. 00:20:38.27\00:20:39.83 And there's something called 00:20:39.83\00:20:40.90 "Avatar depression" which was 00:20:40.90\00:20:41.94 actually a thing after 00:20:41.94\00:20:42.97 that movie, it was so 00:20:42.97\00:20:44.24 beautiful, the movie, Avatar, 00:20:44.24\00:20:45.24 that people got depressed 00:20:45.24\00:20:46.68 after going back to real life, 00:20:46.68\00:20:48.11 right, so that's what those 00:20:48.11\00:20:49.64 movies will do, your 00:20:49.64\00:20:51.11 imagination still wants to 00:20:51.11\00:20:52.48 live in that world. 00:20:52.48\00:20:53.62 Well, I read the book The 00:20:53.62\00:20:54.98 Great Controversy and you read 00:20:54.98\00:20:56.99 about the climax of history in 00:20:56.99\00:20:59.29 the battle between good and 00:20:59.29\00:21:00.76 evil is taking place in your 00:21:00.76\00:21:02.19 lifetime. 00:21:02.19\00:21:03.32 Spiritual warfare between the 00:21:03.32\00:21:05.06 forces of good, the forces of 00:21:05.06\00:21:06.43 evil, all of the conflict is 00:21:06.43\00:21:08.10 coming to a head right now in 00:21:08.10\00:21:09.96 this time in which you are 00:21:09.96\00:21:11.40 alive and you have a part to 00:21:11.40\00:21:12.80 play in that story and you 00:21:12.80\00:21:13.94 close that book. 00:21:13.94\00:21:15.47 But this story's real. 00:21:15.47\00:21:17.01 You've just been awakened to 00:21:17.01\00:21:18.87 the fact that you're a part of 00:21:18.87\00:21:20.88 a greater reality so it's now 00:21:20.88\00:21:22.78 like you're more plugged in to 00:21:22.78\00:21:24.11 the movie of your own 00:21:24.11\00:21:25.51 experience and life. 00:21:25.51\00:21:27.18 And so I was like, "Wow." 00:21:27.18\00:21:28.95 "Wow, wow, OK, OK, Lord." 00:21:28.95\00:21:31.15 So He's like, "Now I need to" 00:21:31.15\00:21:32.35 "give you purpose, I need to" 00:21:32.35\00:21:33.59 "inform you about what it is" 00:21:33.59\00:21:34.82 "you actually believe, what" 00:21:34.82\00:21:36.02 "this thing called life is" 00:21:36.02\00:21:37.09 "actually about." 00:21:37.09\00:21:38.49 I started a city ministry with 00:21:38.49\00:21:40.96 some group of friends and we 00:21:40.96\00:21:42.66 started this non-profit to 00:21:42.66\00:21:43.93 reach downtown areas, inner 00:21:43.93\00:21:45.73 city areas, and so many 00:21:45.73\00:21:47.50 testimonies happened from 00:21:47.50\00:21:48.67 that, but God is really 00:21:48.67\00:21:49.97 showing me that, He's like, 00:21:49.97\00:21:51.14 "Nwamiko, I called you out of" 00:21:51.14\00:21:52.54 "the darkness to put you into" 00:21:52.54\00:21:53.91 "the light," you know. 00:21:53.91\00:21:55.04 And, you know, people who are 00:21:55.04\00:21:56.28 watching this show right now, 00:21:56.28\00:21:57.65 they might be wondering about 00:21:57.65\00:21:58.95 their own journey, but every 00:21:58.95\00:22:00.68 single one of us has a journey 00:22:00.68\00:22:02.05 that God wants to be powerful. 00:22:02.05\00:22:03.89 And here's the thing, I 00:22:03.89\00:22:05.32 thought I wanted... 00:22:05.32\00:22:07.56 I thought I wanted Adventism 00:22:07.56\00:22:10.76 to have its own actor so that 00:22:10.76\00:22:12.66 that would be the star-power 00:22:12.66\00:22:14.46 of Adventism, but the Bible 00:22:14.46\00:22:15.86 showed me that Adventism 00:22:15.86\00:22:17.53 already has star power because 00:22:17.53\00:22:19.13 in Revelation it says that 00:22:19.13\00:22:20.54 Jesus is the bright and 00:22:20.54\00:22:21.74 morning star. 00:22:21.74\00:22:22.80 Jesus is the bright and 00:22:22.80\00:22:24.07 morning star, we already have 00:22:24.07\00:22:25.37 a star in Adventism, but God 00:22:25.37\00:22:26.78 still needs you to play a 00:22:26.78\00:22:27.98 supporting role, right. 00:22:27.98\00:22:29.74 And then I was like, "OK, so" 00:22:29.74\00:22:30.85 "how is that?" 00:22:30.85\00:22:31.98 Well, He's like, "Nwamiko," 00:22:31.98\00:22:33.18 "there's two versions of" 00:22:33.18\00:22:34.32 "yourself that you can play," 00:22:34.32\00:22:35.42 because when you think about 00:22:35.42\00:22:36.58 David, David was a shepherd 00:22:36.58\00:22:37.89 boy and He was like, 00:22:37.89\00:22:38.89 "That's too small." 00:22:38.89\00:22:40.06 "I want you to get up and go" 00:22:40.06\00:22:41.66 "shepherd an entire nation." 00:22:41.66\00:22:43.29 Peter was a fisherman and he's 00:22:43.29\00:22:44.93 like, "That's too small," 00:22:44.93\00:22:46.03 "I need you to become a" 00:22:46.03\00:22:47.50 "fisher of men," right. 00:22:47.50\00:22:48.93 Paul used to go and capture 00:22:48.93\00:22:50.13 people and bring them back to 00:22:50.13\00:22:51.23 the Sanhedrin. 00:22:51.23\00:22:52.63 He's like, "Now I need you to" 00:22:52.63\00:22:53.77 "turn around and go capture" 00:22:53.77\00:22:55.00 "people and bring them back" 00:22:55.00\00:22:55.97 "to Christ." 00:22:55.97\00:22:56.74 Moses was gonna give laws to 00:22:56.74\00:22:58.01 Egypt, He's like, "That's too" 00:22:58.01\00:22:59.11 "small, I need you to give" 00:22:59.11\00:23:00.34 "the ten commandments to the" 00:23:00.34\00:23:01.14 "entire world." 00:23:01.14\00:23:02.44 You used to take the script 00:23:02.44\00:23:04.61 and play it out, now you 00:23:04.61\00:23:06.05 take the scripture and you 00:23:06.05\00:23:07.32 preach it out. 00:23:07.32\00:23:08.45 And it's truth that's gonna 00:23:08.45\00:23:09.75 last for eternity. 00:23:09.75\00:23:11.05 So every single person, every 00:23:11.05\00:23:12.75 single person has a role to 00:23:12.75\00:23:14.06 play in their movie and God is 00:23:14.06\00:23:15.96 the star-- Jesus is the star 00:23:15.96\00:23:17.56 of their film, but you only 00:23:17.56\00:23:18.96 get to experience that when 00:23:18.96\00:23:20.60 you invite Him into your life. 00:23:20.60\00:23:22.33 And so I think God is calling 00:23:22.33\00:23:24.77 us as a generation to create 00:23:24.77\00:23:26.53 media that's gonna impact the 00:23:26.53\00:23:28.07 world for Him. 00:23:28.07\00:23:29.54 And so I consider myself to be 00:23:29.54\00:23:31.31 a vision-maker, not just a 00:23:31.31\00:23:33.11 director or film-maker, but a 00:23:33.11\00:23:34.68 vision-maker. 00:23:34.68\00:23:36.08 And so if it's the most 00:23:36.08\00:23:37.61 powerful way of communicating 00:23:37.61\00:23:39.38 or compelling someone to 00:23:39.38\00:23:40.92 understand something or to 00:23:40.92\00:23:42.48 accept something, why not use 00:23:42.48\00:23:43.62 that for the gospel? 00:23:43.62\00:23:45.02 And so that's what I'm doing 00:23:45.02\00:23:46.15 right now, I'm making 00:23:46.15\00:23:47.26 documentary films, making 00:23:47.26\00:23:48.26 music and making, 00:23:48.26\00:23:51.03 not necessarily documentaries, 00:23:51.03\00:23:52.89 films, but 3D animated films 00:23:52.89\00:23:54.36 as well. 00:23:54.36\00:23:55.40 I've had the opportunity to 00:23:55.40\00:23:57.03 create a documentary on David 00:23:57.03\00:23:59.90 and Goliath and it had 3D 00:23:59.90\00:24:02.04 animation and just talks about 00:24:02.04\00:24:03.94 the story of David and Goliath 00:24:03.94\00:24:05.27 whether it was real so it can 00:24:05.27\00:24:06.81 take you from the atheistic 00:24:06.81\00:24:08.38 perspective to the Adventist 00:24:08.38\00:24:09.84 perspective in one film. 00:24:09.84\00:24:11.65 The big dream that I have 00:24:11.65\00:24:13.45 though is I want to take the 00:24:13.45\00:24:15.18 Conflict of Ages series, 00:24:15.18\00:24:17.25 Patriarchs and Prophets, 00:24:17.25\00:24:18.85 Desire of Ages, and The Great 00:24:18.85\00:24:20.09 Controversy, and create them 00:24:20.09\00:24:21.92 all, each as a two-hour 3D 00:24:21.92\00:24:23.73 animated film. 00:24:23.73\00:24:25.29 I actually have the company 00:24:25.29\00:24:26.56 ready to make it with me, they 00:24:26.56\00:24:28.00 are ready, they're on-- they 00:24:28.00\00:24:29.26 are standing by right now, it 00:24:29.26\00:24:30.87 just needs to be funded. 00:24:30.87\00:24:32.40 The script is done, we just 00:24:32.40\00:24:33.87 need to get the funding to do 00:24:33.87\00:24:35.54 it and we wanna release that 00:24:35.54\00:24:36.94 in theatres world wide and on 00:24:36.94\00:24:38.44 online platforms. 00:24:38.44\00:24:39.91 So to tell the story of what 00:24:39.91\00:24:41.81 this world really is in the 00:24:41.81\00:24:43.31 most compelling and the most 00:24:43.31\00:24:44.91 amazing way possible. 00:24:44.91\00:24:47.18 >> Nwamiko, you know, God has 00:24:47.18\00:24:49.48 really inspired you with your 00:24:49.48\00:24:51.12 vision that He gave you 00:24:51.12\00:24:53.02 because the world is shifted 00:24:53.02\00:24:55.22 so much today and so many 00:24:55.22\00:24:57.03 people are spending time 00:24:57.03\00:24:58.43 on screens... 00:24:58.43\00:24:59.59 >> Yes. 00:24:59.59\00:25:00.43 >> ...and so what a powerful 00:25:00.43\00:25:01.96 vision that He gave you. 00:25:01.96\00:25:03.73 >> That's why I'm excited that 00:25:03.73\00:25:05.13 you guys do what you do. 00:25:05.13\00:25:06.33 >> So how can people get 00:25:06.33\00:25:07.87 ahold of you? 00:25:07.87\00:25:09.40 >> OK, so online my company 00:25:09.40\00:25:13.31 name is Certain Sound and so 00:25:13.31\00:25:15.01 they can go to 00:25:15.01\00:25:16.48 certainsound.org, that's my 00:25:16.48\00:25:17.98 website, also Certain Sound 00:25:17.98\00:25:19.71 Media, that is my YouTube 00:25:19.71\00:25:21.15 channel, so we're gonna have 00:25:21.15\00:25:22.68 some new material showing up 00:25:22.68\00:25:24.12 there, you could also just 00:25:24.12\00:25:25.52 search my first name on social 00:25:25.52\00:25:26.89 media and I'm on Instagram, 00:25:26.89\00:25:28.56 Facebook and all that stuff. 00:25:28.56\00:25:30.59 >> Yeah, and I'd like them to 00:25:30.59\00:25:31.69 be able to support your vision 00:25:31.69\00:25:33.26 because you do need financial 00:25:33.26\00:25:34.83 support for that. 00:25:34.83\00:25:36.10 >> Prayers definitely help, 00:25:36.10\00:25:37.73 but the other stuff doesn't 00:25:37.73\00:25:38.87 hurt either. [laughs] 00:25:38.87\00:25:40.34 >> Nwamiko, I wonder if you 00:25:40.34\00:25:41.67 can please pray for us before 00:25:41.67\00:25:42.84 we end our program today. 00:25:42.84\00:25:44.74 >> Sure, sure, let's do it. 00:25:44.74\00:25:47.08 Father in heaven, we thank You 00:25:47.08\00:25:48.44 so much for Your goodness, 00:25:48.44\00:25:49.71 Your grace, Your Mercy, Your 00:25:49.71\00:25:51.01 love, Lord, and for the fact 00:25:51.01\00:25:52.35 that Jesus is the star of each 00:25:52.35\00:25:54.62 of our movies. 00:25:54.62\00:25:56.25 Lord, we don't need to try to 00:25:56.25\00:25:57.62 be the star because You are 00:25:57.62\00:25:58.82 already there and willing to 00:25:58.82\00:26:00.59 come to make our lives like 00:26:00.59\00:26:02.39 the movie they were designed 00:26:02.39\00:26:04.06 to be. 00:26:04.06\00:26:05.03 I pray in a special way that 00:26:05.03\00:26:06.23 You would please bless 00:26:06.23\00:26:07.66 everybody who's watching out 00:26:07.66\00:26:09.06 there who is in a valley of 00:26:09.06\00:26:10.57 decision in their own lives. 00:26:10.57\00:26:12.23 Help them to realize that You 00:26:12.23\00:26:13.74 have the guidance that they 00:26:13.74\00:26:15.14 need and the answers that they 00:26:15.14\00:26:16.54 need and You have a whole 00:26:16.54\00:26:18.61 'nother side to life that they 00:26:18.61\00:26:20.44 actually desire and want 00:26:20.44\00:26:22.14 because You created them. 00:26:22.14\00:26:23.55 So bless everyone who's 00:26:23.55\00:26:24.98 watching and thank You for 00:26:24.98\00:26:26.38 hearing and answering this 00:26:26.38\00:26:27.65 prayer, in Jesus' name, amen. 00:26:27.65\00:26:28.88 [MIKE] Amen, amen. 00:26:28.88\00:26:30.45 Thank you, Nwamiko, you really 00:26:30.45\00:26:32.09 blessed us with sharing your 00:26:32.09\00:26:34.92 testimony, your experience and 00:26:34.92\00:26:36.79 the way God is leading in your 00:26:36.79\00:26:38.13 life right now. 00:26:38.13\00:26:39.39 >> The pleasure was mine. 00:26:39.39\00:26:41.00 >> Friends, today we want to 00:26:43.03\00:26:44.67 give you the book that 00:26:44.67\00:26:46.33 inspired Nwamiko, The Great 00:26:46.33\00:26:48.34 Controversy, because I have 00:26:48.34\00:26:50.57 read The Great Controversy and 00:26:50.57\00:26:52.07 learned from it multiple 00:26:52.07\00:26:53.51 times, I know that you are 00:26:53.51\00:26:55.18 going to be equally inspired 00:26:55.18\00:26:57.35 by this book. 00:26:57.35\00:26:59.01 >> The Great Controversy has 00:26:59.01\00:27:01.08 stood the test of time as a 00:27:01.08\00:27:03.25 trusted source on Biblical 00:27:03.25\00:27:05.39 truth and divine inspiration. 00:27:05.39\00:27:08.32 >> Before you go, we would 00:27:08.32\00:27:10.09 like to also invite you to 00:27:10.09\00:27:12.13 follow us on Instagram and 00:27:12.13\00:27:14.10 Facebook and subscribe to our 00:27:14.10\00:27:15.93 YouTube channel and also 00:27:15.93\00:27:18.57 listen to our Podcasts. 00:27:18.57\00:27:20.44 And if you go to our website, 00:27:20.44\00:27:23.30 you can see our latest 00:27:23.30\00:27:25.11 programs including our cooking 00:27:25.11\00:27:27.94 demonstrations, our short 00:27:27.94\00:27:30.05 spiritual messages entitle 00:27:30.05\00:27:32.41 Daily Living and our exercise 00:27:32.41\00:27:34.38 workouts called 00:27:34.38\00:27:36.22 Experiencing Life. 00:27:36.22\00:27:38.09 >> We also want you to 00:27:38.09\00:27:40.06 experience the truth found in 00:27:40.06\00:27:41.56 the words of Jesus when He 00:27:41.56\00:27:43.56 said, "It is written, man" 00:27:43.56\00:27:46.63 "shall not live by bread" 00:27:46.63\00:27:48.26 "alone, but by every word" 00:27:48.26\00:27:50.40 "that proceeds out of the" 00:27:50.40\00:27:51.73 "mouth of God." 00:27:51.73\00:27:53.17 ¤¤ 00:27:53.17\00:28:51.83