>> Welcome and thank you for
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joining us on It Is Written
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Canada.
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ProGrace is a training and
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equipping organization whose
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vision is for Christians to
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embrace a grace-centred
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response to dealing with
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unplanned pregnancies, thus
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creating communities where
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both the woman and the child
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can thrive.
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>> It's not either or.
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ProGrace creates a third
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option in the pro-life/
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pro-choice divide and by doing
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so they more fully express
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God's heart.
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We are here in Red Deer,
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Alberta with Anne Waddell from
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ProGrace and she will share
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with us about this vital
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ministry that expresses God's
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heart in such a practical and
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beautiful way.
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Anne, thank you so much for
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joining us on It Is Written
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Canada today.
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>> Honoured to be here.
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>> So, Anne, before we speak
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about ProGrace, can you take
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us back to how you found Christ?
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>> Oh, God is so good, He's
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really a gracious God, I'm
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just so honoured that He had a
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plan and agenda for my life,
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far beyond than what I knew.
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At a young age I was stirred
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up to have to-- to want to
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move away from my home and
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having the need to get away
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from all of the culture and
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the things that I was exposed,
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grew up in the Catholic faith
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just by tradition, but just
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had this longing that there
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had to be something more and
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things to pursue.
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I had always grew up with a
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sense of wanting to fight for
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the under-privileged and the
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victims and all and that
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reflected even in the school
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yard where I was always quick
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to react to situations where
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people were being bullied and
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take care of the situations.
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And then I thought that-- the
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longing grew to become a
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police officer.
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Can believe that, as a
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French Canadian, against all
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odds, barely made it through
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high school as I went through
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that, but the longing was big
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and I recognize that as being
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a calling from God that He had
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an agenda, I was obedient, He
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gave me the courage to get on
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the plane at the age of 20, I
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couldn't speak English, and to
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go away out of province when
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I've never travelled
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that way before.
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I ended up in Regina, from
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there then the RCMP
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transferred me to northern
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Saskatchewan where I end up in
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a small Mennonite community
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where I befriended a beautiful
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young woman, Christian woman,
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that introduced me to
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Christianity through attending
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Bible study at a time where I
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was a bit disillusioned about
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life, when I had accomplished
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a dream, a career, and having
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the new car, the money, the
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means, and feeling empty,
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there was a void.
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So definitely, God's calling
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brought me to northern
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Saskatchewan to experience Him
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in a personal way and it's
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been a journey ever since.
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And from there I had the
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privilege to travel here to
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visit here in Red Deer,
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Alberta and be introduced to
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my husband, a beautiful
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Christian man that now we
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celebrate over 33 years of
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marriage and four children and
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five grandkids, so God is
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good, far more than I ever
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asked or imagined.
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His agenda for my life has
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been overwhelming and I can
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only but trust Him
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moving forward.
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It's been a journey.
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>> So advocating for the
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under-dog, part of your
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journey was to go and become
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the executive director for the
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Central Alberta Pregnancy
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Care Centre.
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Can you tell us about that?
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>> Yeah, well, that journey
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started a while ago and it's
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just-- I'm not quite sure yet
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why I was called to this
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specific cause, but I got
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involved as a volunteer when
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my children were young and I
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really appreciated the
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privilege and how I was grown
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as a person, as a Christian,
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to meet these women in the
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counselling room and hear
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their stories and be given the
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privilege for them to open up
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and be vulnerable and to trust
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me with their story.
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It was such and honour and it
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opened up my world and one of
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the tensions that I
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experienced through them and
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later on into my role in
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leadership as an executive
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director, was that I know that
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I had been on both sides of
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the spectrum, that at some
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point before I left Quebec,
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I thought to be in an
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unplanned pregnancy.
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It turned out was a false
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alarm, but at that time, based
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on my culture, my values and
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what I knew to do, was to go
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across the border and have an
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abortion and come back as if
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nothing happened, then I can
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pursue my dreams and ambition.
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Fast forward when I became
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a Christian, I thought the way
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to honour God through the
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issue was to join the pro-life
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movement and do the picketing
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and advocacy and all that.
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But when I came to meet the
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women in the counselling room,
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and of all walks of life,
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under very difficult
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circumstances and different
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circumstances, I wrestled at
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that time and then later on
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when I was part of a
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leadership team we wondered
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how can we have a posture that
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we can really serve the woman
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in a way that not only her or
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not only the child, but to
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look at them as a whole, as
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God's creation, and design for
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both of them to thrive and how
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to do that where our words,
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our attitude and our action
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would just reflect His true
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heart in the issue.
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The tension was there and also
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the tension was in our
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community on how to
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communicate our work in a way
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that we would make anyone or
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everyone, depending on where
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they're at on the issue, feel
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open to the conversations.
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>> And that's where ProGrace
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came in.
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So, friends, you might be
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wondering about what ProGrace
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is, what are the foundational
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principles of ProGrace, so we
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want to show you this right
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now, so take a look at this.
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>> My name is Angie Wesley and
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I'm the CEO of ProGrace.
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ProGrace goes beyond the
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political debate, equipping
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believers with an approach
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that frees us to think, talk,
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and act more like Jesus would
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if He were here today.
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We're motivated by the fact
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that of the churches we have
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surveyed, about 90% of
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Christians say that abortion
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is one of the major social
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issues their church should be
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addressing, but then 90% of
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these same respondents say
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they are not involved
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in any way.
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What's the disconnect?
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Maybe it's that many of us
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feel the options we've
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presented with just aren't
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that appealing.
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Because the way the current
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political debate is framed
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makes it seem like we need to
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be either for the woman or
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for the child.
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But something about that feels
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off to us and we find
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ourselves asking the question:
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If Jesus were here today,
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where would He be in this issue?
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>> Why did God
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create pregnancy?
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He could have chosen to bring
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life into the world any way He
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wanted, but His design is
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pregnancy.
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There's really nothing else
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like it where the welfare of
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two people are so intertwined
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that it's impossible to help
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one while bypassing the other.
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But instead of respecting
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God's design, the political
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debate divides us into two
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camps: one focused on the
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needs of the woman, the other
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focused on the needs
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of the child.
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What we need is a third option
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because somewhere in the
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middle of this debate is a
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woman and a child with real
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emotions and real needs
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and if those needs go unmet,
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she often feels that her only
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choice is between abortion
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or overwhelming struggle
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as a mom.
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At current rates, more than
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one in four women in America
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will have an abortion by age
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40 and the rates aren't that
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different between those who
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call themselves Christians
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and those who do not.
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That means there are thousands
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of women in our churches who
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have or will face an unplanned
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pregnancy.
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This may sound unbelievable
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because you've rarely heard
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this from women at your
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church, but isn't that proof
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there's a problem?
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Because for many women, the
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church is one of the last
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places they would turn to
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for help.
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But there is a way we can
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change this if we are willing
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to look inside first.
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What if there was a third way
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for Christians to respond?
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A new way to think about this
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issue, aligning with God's
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design of pregnancy so that we
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value both the woman and the
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child equally.
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A new way for us to talk about
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this issue using language that
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communicates God's grace and
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builds bridges, not walls.
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And a new way to act,
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responding with grace the way
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Jesus would so that our
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churches become safe places
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where both women and children
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can thrive, during and after
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an unplanned pregnancy.
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God has a pathway of hope for
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the issue of abortion and it's
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us, it's His church.
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When we embrace a new way to
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think, talk, and act, we
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release His grace, bringing
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His third option.
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Join the ProGrace movement
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today.
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>> My name is Linda Herron,
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I'm the client services
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director at the Central
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Alberta Pregnancy Care Centre.
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I wanna tell you-- share a
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story with you about a young
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lady that I worked with for
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quite a while in our-- through
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our centre.
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She came to us, actually,
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after her abortion.
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And we sat down together, she
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shared her story and said that
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she'd an abortion the week
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before and she didn't even
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know why she had done it.
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So one of the things that I do
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when someone comes in after an
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abortion is I talk to them
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about the whole experience.
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So talk to me about the drive
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there, about your time in the
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parking lot, in the waiting
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room, in the treatment room,
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which is part of working
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through the grief process and
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avoiding denial.
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When she shared about being in
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the treatment room, she said,
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"There was something very"
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"strange that happened when I"
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"was in there."
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"I felt this overwhelming"
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"love, it was like the room"
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"was full of love and I"
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"didn't know what that was."
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And she carried on and told me
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about the rest of her time
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and the trip home and
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the day after.
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Before she left I said, "Can"
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"I share something that I"
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"believe happened"
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"in that room?"
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And she said, "Yes."
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And I said, "I think when you"
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"were feeling that"
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"overwhelming love, that was"
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"Jesus, and He wasn't waiting"
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"outside the room, He was"
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"with you and He was crying"
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"with you and He's not"
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"mad at you."
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I later learned that because
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of that conversation, she came
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back and I worked with her for
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a long time.
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Eventually, through her
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involvement there, she started
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going to church.
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She popped in one time and
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they were doing a baptism
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Sunday and she ended up,
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not planned, not with any
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forethought at all, she went
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and was baptized as well.
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Following that, she did our
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volunteer training, she's now
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married to a wonderful young
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man and they have the most
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beautiful baby I've ever seen,
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I think.
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She's now serving in the
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Central Alberta Pregnancy Care
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Centre and she's working with
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women who've had abortions and
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is having a huge impact in
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their lives.
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>> Anne, I really like the way
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ProGrace cuts through the
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divide and really presents the
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full picture of God's heart.
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What is the beauty of this
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program for you?
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>> Oh, there's so much to be
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said, but the main thing for
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me, like you said, is God's
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heart be revealed in the issue
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and through us as Christian,
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Christ's followers.
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ProGrace has done some
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research where the two primary
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needs of a woman are for
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emotional support and
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practical resources.
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And as a Christian community,
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that is our role.
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It is not to judge, condemn,
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coerce her in her
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decision-making, it is to be
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the hands and feet and provide
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that support, a safe place for
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her to tell her story, to be
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heard, and to be given the
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practical resources of-- that
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she needs to overcome her
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difficult circumstances.
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We were privileged in Central
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Alberta here with the Central
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Alberta Pregnancy Care Centre,
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as we approach our community
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with these two primary needs,
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and we saw the need to say,
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"OK, we're offering the"
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"options-counselling, but"
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"what are we doing to be"
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"more practical?"
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"What about the women in"
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"other communities?"
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"And what about housing?"
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And the community stepped up
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and beyond the need and we
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grew, we were able to open
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other centres in surrounding
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communities and to provide a
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beautiful maternity home, a
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place where they can live
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through their pregnancy,
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be cared for, be nurtured, and
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loved unconditionally and then
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to be able to stay and be
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equipped to parent
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successfully after the child
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is born or place-- or
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supported to place for
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adoption.
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Practical resources, and then
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the support, the emotional
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support through all of that.
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And so often we've heard
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clients says, "Really? Me?"
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"If you knew my-- after all"
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"I've told you, you still"
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"want me to be part of"
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"your program?"
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And that's what ProGrace
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brings into this, it's just
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this grace approach that, you
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know, we've all experienced
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God's grace, you've heard my
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story, I've experienced it and
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experience it every day so it
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is renewed every day and it's
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a beautiful way.
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>> So the statistics are
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telling us that this is not
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only happening outside of the
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church, it's happening within
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the church.
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So 40% of those women who are
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experiencing a termination of
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pregnancy are within the
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church and yet only about 7%
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of those women are actually
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speaking to their church about
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this decision.
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>> Yes, I think it's their
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conception, their history,
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their exposure they've had to
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different churches and to the
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Christians, too, and the way
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that we speak about it.
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And I've experienced being in
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churches speaking many, many
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times and sharing, you know,
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if so many are from the
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church, but overall one in
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four women is experiencing
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terminating a-- that's a lot
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of women.
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And when I speak in a church,
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I have the privilege to say,
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when you do speak about the
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issue, that that be in your
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work environment or around
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your dinner table at Christmas
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time, within your church,
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wherever it is, one out of
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four women, so when you do
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speak of it, will your words,
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your attitude, your action
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bring healing and restoration
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or add to some of the guilt
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and shame they can be
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experiencing?
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And a lot of it is
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self-imposed, we don't need to
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do it. [laughs]
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People should know that, it
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doesn't-- they carry a burden
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through their past experience
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in that way.
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>> We have to be really
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careful about the language
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we use in talking about
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this issue because we don't
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know who's listening.
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And when people are listening,
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they're thinking, "Are you a"
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"safe person to talk to?"
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>> Definitely.
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We want those walls and we
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want to build bridges, we want
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to be a safe, inviting place.
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You know, Mike, I remember
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speaking in a church and once
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I had a pastor get up after I
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spoke and he was all choked up
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and he asked his congregation
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for forgiveness.
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He says, "I didn't realize"
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"that so many of you in here"
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"could have experienced an"
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"abortion and I know that the"
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"way I've spoken of it and"
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"the words I would have used"
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"and some of my messages would"
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"not have brought healing."
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And it's not all churches,
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some churches are very
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gracious and very welcoming
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and have beautiful programs,
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but based on those statistics
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we know that it's probably not
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the norm.
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And, you know, grace is
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extended to all of us because
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I've had the privilege of
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saying, my team and people that
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work within the pregnancy care
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movement, we had the privilege
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to hear the stories and to be
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transformed by that.
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Before I heard the stories, I
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was on both sides of the
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spectrum, it's only the work
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and meeting the women and be
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able to experience and walk
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along side them, their journey
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that changed me.
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And I truly believe that we
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will revolutionize the issue
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of abortion by bringing the
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grace ingredient into the
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whole debate.
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>> Anne, what does the
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progress approach look like in
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a practical sense?
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>> Yes, well, it's the way that
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we meet the woman in the
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counselling room, the really
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practical, to make her feel
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that she's safe, not coercing
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her, just listening
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to her story.
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And again, I bring it back to
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that emotional support where
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she feels like she's at home.
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We hear that often and they
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feel that they're cared and
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they're not being judged no
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matter what they do and it
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opens up in a beautiful way.
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And then to be able to just
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really bring those resources
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and those practical resources.
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And then what we do with the
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clients is regardless where
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they're at, it is not a
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mandate to impose our faith
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values, but when we bring the
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grace into the equation, it
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just grows them a little bit
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closer to who God is and His
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heart for them.
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And then, you know, I've sat
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across people and I've had
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people from all walks again,
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on both spectrum, you know,
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Christian, non-Christian,
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pro-life, pro-choice, wherever
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they're at, and when I've
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shared that with them and
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said, you know, that women
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face very difficult
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circumstances when they face
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an unplanned pregnancy, would
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we not both agree that they
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have the right to access the
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information they need to make
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a well-informed choice?
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And on top of that to be
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accessing God's unconditional
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love and grace, just like you
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and I, on a daily basis, no
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matter what they choose to do?
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And, you know, we know we've
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done a really good job, we
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talk about the practical
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implication of it, is when they
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come back after choosing to
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terminate, they don't feel
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judged and condemned, they
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know it's a safe place and
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they come back, say,
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"I need some help, I'm not"
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"doing so good."
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It just warms our heart to
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know that now they're getting
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a little picture, a little
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view of what God's heart and
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then the work begins.
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>> You know, Anne, I just
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can't help thinking about the
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story of Jesus with the woman
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that was caught in adultery.
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He just did that so quietly
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and so beautifully.
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>> Beautiful story in John 8,
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we use that all the time
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because one thing that we see
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that's the beauty of it is
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Jesus first addresses the
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Pharisees and then when
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they're gone, then He
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addresses her and leaves her
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in awe of His gentleness and
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His grace that she's able to
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go away and be transformed by
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her experience and her having
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experienced Jesus in that way.
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Beautiful story.
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>> So, Anne, you're dealing
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with the emotions and the
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practical side.
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Do you have any personal
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stories that you've
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experienced that really speak
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to you personally?
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[ANNE] Oh, yes.
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Do you know that a woman can
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choose to terminate with as
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much love in her heart than
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the woman that choose to
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carry to term.
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Let me tell you of a young
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woman that came to us and
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since the-- her story that
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since the age of four has been
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sexually abused, ended up in
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foster care program on and
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off, onto the street into drug
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addiction and sex trade, and
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on and on.
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Finds herself pregnant.
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Out of love, she wants to
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spare that child of the world
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that she knows.
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Out of love.
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She says, "There's no way I"
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"can bring a child into the"
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"world that I've experienced,"
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"unless somebody comes"
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"alongside with that emotional"
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"support, saying, you know,"
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"I'm so sorry you had to go"
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"through all this, but let me"
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"paint a picture of hope"
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"for you."
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And that is what we're able
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to do in the pregnancy
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care movement.
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And the other story is the
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young woman that grew up in
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the church, pastor's daughter,
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and has kept pure through all
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these years and goes to
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university and
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finds herself pregnant.
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Her reflex is to terminate her
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pregnancy because she wants to
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spare her family, her
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congregation the shame
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and the guilt.
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And that story's a true story
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and by the grace of God was
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she spared that choice through
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someone that introduced her to
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her local pregnancy centre and
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help her search her own heart.
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'Cause that's one thing that
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we do in our practical
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resources, we help her see
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what their heart's
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telling them.
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Your heart is often what we
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want you to honour so when you
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look back, yeah, you will have
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made the choice that you felt
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was best for you at the time,
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based on your heart.
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>> I received a phone call one
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day and it was a very frantic
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young man, actually, on the
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phone that said,
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"My girlfriend's pregnant."
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"We are not ready for this."
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"We need to get an abortion"
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"and I need to book it as"
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"soon as possible."
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And I said, "Well, let me"
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"tell you what we do here."
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"We help people like yourself"
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"who are facing an unplanned"
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"pregnancy and the way that"
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"we do that is we would love"
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"to meet with you, we'd love"
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"to sit down and talk with"
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"you and go over all of your"
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"options and then offer you"
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"some decision-making tools."
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He finally agreed to come in,
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quite nervously, and when we
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met with them we went through
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all of her options and then we
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went through decision-making
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tools.
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Their concerns were financial,
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embarrassment of what the
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family would think, future
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plans, goals, and dreams that
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they felt were being
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destroyed, that none of those
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things would happen anymore.
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She even said that she had
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never really wanted to be a
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mother, she hadn't given it
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any thought at all.
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So we talked a bit about what
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it might look like if they did
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decide to go forward.
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She did admit that her family
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were-- had always been very
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supportive and when I asked,
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"How do you think they would"
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"respond," she said, "Uh,"
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"they'd probably be happy."
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"So you've shared with me"
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"that financially there's no"
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"way you could have a baby,"
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"but there's a lot of help"
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"out there and we can help"
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"you to find that, we can"
00:22:55.84\00:22:57.34
"show you the resources that"
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"are out there."
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"You talked about all your"
00:22:59.64\00:23:00.71
"dreams being dead if you"
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"have a baby and I think"
00:23:02.38\00:23:05.05
"there may be dreams that you"
00:23:05.05\00:23:06.45
"don't even know about yet."
00:23:06.45\00:23:08.25
"You talked about your family"
00:23:08.25\00:23:10.09
"and the embarrassment, but"
00:23:10.09\00:23:11.69
"you also just shared with me"
00:23:11.69\00:23:13.05
"that those are people that"
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"support you and love you and"
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"so my encouragement will be"
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"that you actually talk to"
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"them because my guess is"
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"you've never made a major"
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"decision in your life"
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"without their guidance."
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She totally agreed with me
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on that one and was pondering,
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you could tell she was
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starting to ponder.
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I could tell from this young
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man that all he wanted to do
00:23:32.94\00:23:34.64
was to make her happy and I
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spoke to them about the fact
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that I could see that they
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really, really cared about
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each other and that I believed
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that they would be able to
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sort through this.
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I reminded them that they have
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time to make this decision and
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regardless of what choice they
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make we'd be there to support
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them and walk alongside them.
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I did see them a week later,
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they still were uncertain, but
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they had spoken to family and
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as predicted, their family
00:24:01.60\00:24:03.17
were very supportive, but also
00:24:03.17\00:24:05.04
saying, "Whichever option you"
00:24:05.04\00:24:06.64
"choose, we'll be there to"
00:24:06.64\00:24:07.81
"support you."
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And another week later they
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made the decision that they
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would carry to term.
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It was so fun because during
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the pregnancy that young man
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visited a male mentor very
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regularly, every single week
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throughout the whole
00:24:20.69\00:24:21.79
pregnancy.
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He went through so much
00:24:22.99\00:24:25.19
training on what it meant to
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be a father.
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They have a beautiful,
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beautiful little girl and I
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just recently spoke to them
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again and they've married and
00:24:31.90\00:24:33.67
they're expecting their second
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child and are loving, loving,
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loving being parents.
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>> That's what I think God is
00:24:40.88\00:24:42.14
calling ProGrace to do, is
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just impact the issue in such
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a way that God's true heart
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will be revealed in a way that
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people that know Him will grow
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to know him a little
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bit better.
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>> So, Anne, we have come to
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the end of our program and I
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wonder if you could please
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pray for us right now?
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>> I'd love to.
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Because, Father God, here You
00:25:05.57\00:25:07.17
are, a great and mighty and so
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gracious of a God.
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We're thankful for this
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program and we're thankful for
00:25:13.17\00:25:15.88
all of the listeners, You know
00:25:15.88\00:25:17.58
each and every one of them,
00:25:17.58\00:25:19.58
You know their stories, You
00:25:19.58\00:25:22.68
know how You wanna reach out
00:25:22.68\00:25:24.25
to them and we trust that this
00:25:24.25\00:25:26.09
program will do just that,
00:25:26.09\00:25:28.19
will equip them to be a little
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bit better when faced, not
00:25:30.59\00:25:32.46
just with abortion, but the
00:25:32.46\00:25:34.10
other difficult issues that
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we're facing in such a time as
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this, that You will grow them
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in Your likeness, to extend
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the grace for everyone.
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And at the same time that
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they'll accept that grace for
00:25:47.18\00:25:48.58
themselves, no matter what
00:25:48.58\00:25:49.84
their story.
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For the ones that have had
00:25:51.58\00:25:52.98
difficult circumstances,
00:25:52.98\00:25:55.45
Father God, may they find a
00:25:55.45\00:25:56.85
safe place to turn to, someone
00:25:56.85\00:25:59.12
to talk to and to experience
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Your healing and Your
00:26:01.79\00:26:03.46
transformation.
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We pray that You will use
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ProGrace, the churches and all
00:26:06.63\00:26:08.33
its partners, and all the
00:26:08.33\00:26:09.90
pregnancy care centres across
00:26:09.90\00:26:11.63
Canada, use that movement and
00:26:11.63\00:26:15.07
the great work that the men
00:26:15.07\00:26:16.47
and women involved and the
00:26:16.47\00:26:18.11
volunteers and all different
00:26:18.11\00:26:21.04
ways, just to transform their
00:26:21.04\00:26:23.48
communities and again that
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many, many will come to know
00:26:25.91\00:26:27.78
You in a personal way and that
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the impact will not just be
00:26:30.45\00:26:32.89
for today, but for eternity.
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That is our prayer, in Jesus'
00:26:37.09\00:26:39.03
precious name we pray, amen.
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[MIKE] Amen, amen.
00:26:40.93\00:26:42.50
Thank you so much, Anne, for
00:26:42.50\00:26:44.30
coming and sharing with us
00:26:44.30\00:26:45.63
about ProGrace today.
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>> Thankful for the opportunity.
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Thanks for having me.
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>> We need to paint a picture
00:28:29.74\00:28:31.51
of hope for women of what's
00:28:31.51\00:28:32.94
possible after an unplanned
00:28:32.94\00:28:34.84
pregnancy and the way we can
00:28:34.84\00:28:36.48
do that is if local churches
00:28:36.48\00:28:38.08
get involved in creating these
00:28:38.08\00:28:40.25
communities.
00:28:40.25\00:28:41.42
God's solution to the abortion
00:28:41.42\00:28:42.88
issue will come through His
00:28:42.88\00:28:44.39
church and as we extend the
00:28:44.39\00:28:45.72
same grace that we've
00:28:45.72\00:28:47.32
received, that's when God will
00:28:47.32\00:28:49.42
bring His solution and turn
00:28:49.42\00:28:50.89
the tide of abortion.
00:28:50.89\00:28:51.83