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>> Welcome to It Is Written
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Canada, thank you for
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joining us.
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Often when we look back on our
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lives, we see a chain of
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circumstances where one
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decision led to the next and
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the next and we realize that
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each decision led us to where
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we are today.
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>> And especially if we have
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dedicated our lives to the
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Lord, we see a magnificent
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tapestry of colourful events
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which may not always be easy,
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but when we see God's hand in
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them, we would have our life
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no other way.
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This was certainly true for
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Paul and Raquel Antunes who
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are our special guests on
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It Is Written Canada today.
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Paul and Raquel, welcome to
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It Is Written Canada.
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>> Thank you so much, it's an
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honour for us to be here.
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[RENÈ] So, Raquel, you were
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originally from Brazil and I
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know that your childhood was
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quite different to Paul's.
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So can you tell us about it
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before we talk to Paul?
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[RAQUEL] Sure.
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I was born in a family of six
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siblings, I was the only girl,
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and by the time I was
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22 months old, I had to go and
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live in an Adventist orphanage
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because my mom had some...
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some mental health problems
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and she was in and out of a
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psychiatric hospital and my
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father had to make a living
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and I would be with
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neighbours, church members,
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and my brothers will be in the
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streets and my father thought,
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you know, that's not a good
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situation.
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So he heard about an Adventist
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orphanage like two and a half
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hours away from our city and
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he inquired and they accept us.
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So I went there, I was 22
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months old, I was still in
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diapers and...
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So I had to share, for me,
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like I say, my parents with 21
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more kids, and I always had in
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my mind, you know, maybe I'm
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being selfish here, but I want
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my own family, I don't want to
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share my parents with so many
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kids, you know.
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Once we went to a store, a big
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department store and I
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remember when we got money to
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buy roller blades and I
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remember when the elevator
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opened up, this lady saw this
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bunch of kids coming out and
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she said, "Oh, the door of"
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"the foster home opened up."
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You know, she made that
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comment and we tried to brush
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it off and, you know, but
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always, you know, in your
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mind, you always had this in
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your heart, you know, I don't
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want to-- sometimes you don't
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like to be different, that's
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right, I don't want to be
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different, I want to have my
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own family so I always, that
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start in my mind that I want
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to have a family just for me
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that I could call, that's my
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family, I don't need to share
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with anybody else.
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>> Did you ever see your own
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father and your mother?
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>> Yes, they would--
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especially my father, he would
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come every month and he would
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visit us on Sundays and he
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would take the train and spend
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the day with us and the end of
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the day we would take him to
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the train station and my heart
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was broken.
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I remember my father, my
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foster father, I don't know
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how you name him, he would be
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holding me and I remember
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saying goodbye and crying and
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I would say, "Dad, Dad!"
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So I was torn because I
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already loved my new parents,
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but I miss my dad, too.
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I didn't know my mom back
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then, I didn't know much.
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I heard of her when I was
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three years old.
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>> So was there any religious
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experience that you had or a
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spiritual understanding that
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came to you at some stage in
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your development?
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>> When I was about fourteen
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years old, I went to a
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Christian, spiritual retreat
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and we were studying about
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Ruth and Boaz and that's one
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of my favourite romantic
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stories in the Bible and I
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remember they broke us up in
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groups of two to pray and I--
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they put me with this
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28-year-old single lady and
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she really wants to get
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married.
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And she said, "Should we pray"
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"for our husbands?"
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And I thought, you know,
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"I'm not that old yet, I'm"
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"not thinking about that,"
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but, you know, I didn't have
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the courage to say no to her
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and then we prayed, but then
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that clicked something in me
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and I said, "Why not?"
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You know, "I know I'm young,"
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"I'm not going to marry now,"
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"but I want a pastor because"
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"I want to serve God, to give"
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"back everything He has done"
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"in my life and provide for"
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"me and I want a Christian, a"
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"a real Christian one, not a"
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"fake one, a man that will be"
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"a good husband to me and a"
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"good father for my future,"
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"you know, kids and I want"
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"one more thing, Lord, I want"
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"a boy and a girl."
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So then through, you know,
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until I met him, you know, I
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had very clearly that in my
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heart, but I know that didn't
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come from me, I know it came
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from the Lord 'cause the Bible
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says that God put this in your
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heart, that's right.
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>> And now you have a husband
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who is a pastor, chaplain here
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at Chinook Winds school and
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also you have a boy
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and a girl.
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[RAQUEL] Yes, a boy
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and a girl.
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[MIKE] So, Paul, I want to
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start with your father.
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He made a lot of decisions, a
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series of decisions, which
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influenced your life in
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a big way.
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>> Yeah, absolutely.
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You know, my father was a very
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decided person and so when it
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came, you know, as we were
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growing up, we were very
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faithful Catholics and, you
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know, I was baptized Catholic,
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my brother was, every Sunday
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we were in mass and as
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families we'd celebrate,
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you know, those moments of
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going to mass.
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I remember that-- I don't
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remember, but I remember
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hearing my parents tell me
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that it was around the
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mid-70's that my parents
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became Canadians and with
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that, the Gideon Society gave
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my mom and dad a Bible and my
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father literally devoured the
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Bible not once, not twice, but
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three times.
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He was in pursuit of Biblical
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truth, he like, "I just--"
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It just really meant something
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to him and it's just this
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whole understanding of Jesus
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Christ and His love and so my
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father began actually
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church-searching.
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And-- but we continued going
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to mass every Sunday and I
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remember one Sunday morning as
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we were getting ready to go to
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church, my father put the TV
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on and in that moment a
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program began to play which
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just so happened to be It Is
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Written with Pastor George
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Vandeman and at the time it
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was the American It Is Written
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and long story short, my
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father began watching it more
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and more as we continued to go
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to mass and then I remember
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one day all of a sudden the
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doorbell ringing and, you
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know, my brother and I were
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like, "Who's there?" Right?
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And all of a sudden my parents
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introduce us to this pastor,
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Pastor Ted Wassolek and he's
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always been someone so special
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in our life and his family.
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And I remember him coming in
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and of course this was
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mid-70's so technology, folks,
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was way different, right, you
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remember, and so he literally
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brought this slide projector,
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like this, it was like a box
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really and he began showing
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this Biblical cartoon, if you
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would, and just, my brother
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and I were like, "Wow!"
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And then he came to the end of
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it and that first time he came
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to the end of it, he opened
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the Bible and began teaching
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about the Bible.
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My brother and I were like,
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"Ehh," so we were out
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of there.
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And my parents began to study.
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Now I need to be honest, in
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the beginning, my mom was
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like, "Ehh..."
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She just wasn't buying this.
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Her family began saying,
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"What are you guys up to?"
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"Like this is really"
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"different..." right.
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Portuguese make their wine,
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Portuguese make their sausage,
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Portuguese make their
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moonshine.
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You know, I remember going to
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Portugal to the little village
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of Painho, 'cause there might
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be some Portuguese listening
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here and actually stepping in
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the area where they put all
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the grapes and then crushing
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with your feet, you know, the
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grape juice and, you know,
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these memories flooding and--
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But my parents began to
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continue to study and my
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father said, "Well, let's"
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"start going to church."
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My mom wasn't quite ready.
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And so she continued working
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as a hairdresser on Saturdays
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and I remember the first
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Sabbath we got to church.
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And, Mike, René, it was, for
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me, it was really special.
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My dad was-- he went into the
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church and then I was taken to
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Sabbath School and I'm like,
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"'Sabbath School,' what's"
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"that," right, and immediately
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as I'm walking down the
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hallway, someone took me down
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there, don't know who, and I
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remember hearing music and
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it's like, "Wow!"
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I just like, it was a magnet
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for me and I was listening to
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that music and so my brother
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and I were just like, we
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really fell in love with it.
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And it took a little while,
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but my parents, with the Bible
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studies, they finally decided
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in accepting the seventh day
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Sabbath message from the
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Seventh-day Adventist Church
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and were baptized in the
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Vancouver Adventist Church and
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so yeah, it was a really
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special experience, but for my
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family, they're like,
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"You guys are crazy!"
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"Like, you're leaving all"
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"this behind?"
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But they respected us, right,
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'cause it's like it's crazy,
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but at the same time, well,
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it's your journey, right?
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Yeah.
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>> So, Paul, did you
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experience any challenges
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to your faith?
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>> You know what, yes.
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Growing up in a Portuguese
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home with just lots of dancing
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and upbeat music and excitement
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and I remember, you know,
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you-- changing from the
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religion that we did all that,
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and I remember when I hit my
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10-, 11-year old time, I
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started getting into rock and
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roll and I could just fire off
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a whole bunch of bands I used
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to listen to and I loved that,
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and it's like, the stronger
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the beat and the louder
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the better.
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I remember a lot of times my
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mom would come running down
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the hallway and she's like,
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"Paul, turn off that stuff,"
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"it's no good for you!"
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And I'm like, "Oh, Mom,"
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"give me a break!"
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But anyways, you know, it went
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a few years like that and I
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just kept on and kept on and
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my mom would just plead and I
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wouldn't and I, you know, I
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remember one summer
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specifically where my brother
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and I, we were working in the
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berry patch so we would always
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work, I was probably about ten
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when I started working in the
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berry patch, my brother was
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seven and a half, and so my
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mom would say, "OK, guys, go,"
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we'd ride our bikes to the
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berry patch and we would work,
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strawberries and raspberries.
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And for us to be able to be
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able to get more, we had the
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Walkmans on, you know the
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Walkmans...
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>> I remember those.
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>> Some of our audience is not
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gonna get it, you guys.
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(laughs)
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And I remember listening, and
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I was always in search of a
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faster beat to be able to be
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able to pick faster and it was
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just what I liked and it got
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to the end of that summer and
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I started feeling this
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loneliness and this emptiness
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and I really wasn't sure why I
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was feeling that and I was
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changing the channels trying
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to find that right song and I
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couldn't and I was about to
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turn the Walkman off when all
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of a sudden I landed on a
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Christian radio station and
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I'd heard songs in the church
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and it was just there was no
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life and God was working in me
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and He was wooing me and I had
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no idea and the song that
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literally began to play was a
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song entitled God and God
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Alone by Steve Green.
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And from that moment I was
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glued to what was then called
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KLYN, 106.5 in Lynden,
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Washington.
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And I just loved listening to
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all the artists at the time
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and the songs.
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They were just so filling to
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me and it was at that moment
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that God really gripped me, I
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had always loved music, but
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He really gripped me and I had
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the dream now to become a
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Christian recording artist at
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the age of 15, whatever it was
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at the time, and I'm like as
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if I could understand anything
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really, and yet God works in
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unbelievable ways.
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And so, you know, my parents
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had moved from Richmond when
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we became Adventists to
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Aldergrove, BC to go to Fraser
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Valley Adventist Academy and
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so, you know, our life really
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changed and so it was really
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cool how God led at that time
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and really brought me
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out of that.
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>> So God was leading you
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through music and you decided
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at some stage to become
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a minister.
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>> Yeah, I was around 17 years
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of age working at-- it was
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then called Camp Chawuthen and
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that's the Mountain View Camp
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in Hope.
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And it was my first day at
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camp, I was gonna be a staff
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and whatever else they were
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gonna get me to do and I
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remember specifically we had a
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communion service and we sang
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and the communion service and
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at the end of that communion
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service, it was just really
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touching and they opened it up
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for us teenagers to share and
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we began to just share from
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our hearts and it just all of
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a sudden came out of my heart,
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like, you know, I wanna be a
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youth pastor.
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And I remember Pastor Jim Gall
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said, "Uh, you haven't even"
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"gone into the summer yet,"
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"are you sure you wanna be a"
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"youth pastor without"
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"experiencing working"
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"with youth?"
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And I'm like, "Yeah,"
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"I just feel it."
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So it was really special.
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And so from that moment on it
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was music and theology and I
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was going to do it.
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And little did I know, my mom
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and dad, specifically my dad,
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he really wanted me to
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relearn Portuguese.
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And they decided-- he decided
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to send me, I'm gonna be
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specific 'cause Mom wasn't in
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favour with this move either.
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She said-- he said, "Paul,"
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"have you ever thought of"
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"going-- why don't you go to"
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"Brazil and you can relearn"
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"the Portuguese, you know,"
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"stay there for a semester"
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"and have an experience," and
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it was, "No!"
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You know, I just didn't know
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what to expect and stuff, you
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know, and that very next
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summer my parents met a couple
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Brazilians at Camp Hope and I
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remember them finally coming
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to our home and they talked
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about Brazil, they talked
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about the beaches, they talked
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about the weather, they talked
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about the music 'cause they
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already knew I loved music,
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they actually talked about
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the women; "the girls are"
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"so beautiful!"
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I'm like, "I'm dating a nice"
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"girl here."
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And so anyways, those
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Brazilian friends, they
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started saying, "Hey, Paul,"
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"this would be really, really"
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"special for you to go."
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Long story short, I graduated
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in '90 and in August of '90 I
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was on a plane headed to
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São Paulo, Brazil.
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And I remember when we landed
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in São Paulo, when we, when I
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landed in São Paulo, Brazil, I
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remember saying goodbye to my
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mom and my dad, all my family
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came to the Vancouver airport
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because it's like,
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"No, Paulito," it's like,
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"Bona Paulito!"
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just leaving, you know, it was
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like, it was always the
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"Little Paulito" and as I--
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always, we were always
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together as a family, right.
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And so I landed in São Paulo
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and the first shock was like,
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the cold, I landed in August,
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it's-- they do have a winter,
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it's not like ours here in
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Alberta, but they do have one
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and I remember going straight
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to our Adventist University in
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São Paulo and it's a beautiful
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campus and I remember going
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straight to the theology
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department and I remember
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meeting the secretary there
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and she, you know we did our
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introductions and she said,
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"Did you ever meet this guy"
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"by the name of Bill Santos?"
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And I'm like, "No, I don't"
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"know who Bill Santos is,"
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"like, Canada's big, right,"
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"where'd he live?"
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"Toronto."
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I'm like, "Well, no."
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Like, technology's much
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different back then, right,
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and so anyways, of course I
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ended up meeting Pastor Bill
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Santos which was one of
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It Is Written's speakers
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before you folks.
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And so I remember that first
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month in Brazil and the first
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week was fine, but then I went
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to the university because I
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spent the week with those
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friends that I'd met in Canada
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and I remember that we-- that
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I came there and the loneliness.
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And I remember one day being
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at the piano and I said,
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"God, I'm feeling so lonely."
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And I was just saying, "God,"
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"please help me through this."
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And I remember the day that I
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met... [clicks tongue]
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this beautiful woman beside me
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and I'm like, "WHOA!" that
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she's exactly what I'm
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looking for!
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And it's just connecting in a
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totally new environment and
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God knew that I needed that.
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And I spent six and a half
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years in Brazil, I fell in
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love with not with just this
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amazing, beautiful woman, I
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fell in love with the people
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and the culture, and it really
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changed my life.
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>> So, Raquel, can you tell us
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your side of the story?
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>> Yes, when he arrived at the
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University, everybody knew
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because we Brazilians love
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foreigner people, we call them
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"gringos" and we knew he was
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a gringo because he wore socks
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up to the middle of his legs
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and a very colourful shorts
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with a tie on and a backpack
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and a Walkman so we knew he
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was not Brazilian, that's
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right, because Brazilians are
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so focused on their looks,
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[laughs] so...
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Something in me said, "I like"
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"this guy," you know, "I like"
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"what he's saying unless he's"
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"not-- he's fake."
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And I had a classmate in
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nursing school that he was his
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roommate so I ask him,
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"How is him really, you know,"
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"at the dorm, like, you're"
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"his roommate, is he really"
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"the way he shows, you know,"
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"on the campus."
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And then my classmate said,
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"But aren't you dating?"
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I said, "Yes, but I'm going"
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"to break up with him."
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[all laugh]
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'Cause I knew I didn't--
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it didn't work, it was
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not working.
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And then I want to see where
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he was so I follow him, I was
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trying for him not to notice
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me, but I would not speak to
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him, I would not say "hi," I
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would just follow him where he
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was, but my friend, he
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noticed that, he said,
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"She's following you."
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>> And now you have a
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beautiful family and family is
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big in your life, Raquel, and
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before I ask you questions
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about that, we're gonna listen
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to a song called Love At Home.
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Have you ever heard this
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song before?
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[PAUL] Yeah.
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[RAQUEL] Yeah, I sang that
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song-- we sang that song at
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the orphanage quite often.
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[MIKE] Wow, that's remarkable.
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>> Yeah, you know, we could
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sing the song a little bit
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with you guys if you don't
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mind a capella.
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>> That would be super, yeah.
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[PAUL] Oh, great.
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Well, let's run with it.
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[PAUL SINGING] ¤There is beauty
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¤all around
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[BOTH SING] ¤When there's love
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¤at home
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¤There is joy in every sound
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[BOTH SING] ¤When there's
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¤love at home
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¤Peace and plenty here abide
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¤Smiling fair on every side
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¤Time doth softly
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¤sweetly glide
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[BOTH] ¤When there's love
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¤at home
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¤Love at home
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¤Time doth softly
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¤sweetly glide
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[BOTH] ¤When there's love
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¤at home
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>> Raquel, that song, Love At
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Home, very beautiful.
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I know that, because I grew up
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in an orphanage, I understand
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how important family is to
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you, so explain to our
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viewers how important family
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is to you.
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>> Yes, I could write a PhD
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book on it, you know, but to
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summarize, you know, family,
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there's nothing important
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on this earth for me than my
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family, that's right.
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And one of my favourite verses
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in the Bible, I pray when we
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had hard time to conceive, we
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dealt with infertility, too, is
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"Delight yourself in the"
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"Lord and He will give the"
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"desires of your heart."
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And He gave the desires
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of my heart.
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We are not perfect, we have
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our challenges, but when I
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look at my husband, look at my
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children, I thank God every
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day for them, when I'm folding
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their laundry, I say, "Thank"
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"You, Jesus, for my family."
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Sorry...
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>> So, Paul, how important is
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family to you?
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You know what, because of how
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I was brought up, I had a mom
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and dad and so there was that
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stability that was different
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than for Raquel, right.
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I never had the questions
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about, "Oh, I wish I had my"
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"own family," because I did
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and so when we finally got
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married, I had my ambitions,
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my pursuits, I wanted music,
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wanted to record and all these
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things and so those things
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began to happen and I went
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right into it and Raquel began
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saying, "Well, what about me,"
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"what about us as a family?"
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And then when the kids came I
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was still like, work, work,
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work, I've gotta do this,
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right, 'cause it was so
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important and Raquel was like,
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"The family is the most"
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"important."
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As a pastoral family we began
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to work with families and-- to
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see the brokenness and the
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heartache of mothers, of
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fathers, and of the children
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and to begin trying to bring
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healing and sometimes healing
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couldn't happen at that time.
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And so you try to just share
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the love of God and encourage
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the people and pray with them
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so that their faith in God
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doesn't break apart even
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though their family life is
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breaking apart.
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You know, we're reminded that
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although everyone will forsake
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us, God never forsakes
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His children.
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Dads, you need to stop
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working so much.
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The almighty dollar at the end
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of a person's life
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means nothing.
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I have been at the bedside of
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people when they're about to
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pull the machine off and the
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family's all hanging around
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and just speaking words of
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hope to those families
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for the loved ones that are
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passing on.
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And you know what, Jesus is
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all in the business of healing
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brokenness and we know that,
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you know, I lost my father,
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he was 59 years of age, it was
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like 16 years ago almost and
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he was killed in a workplace
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accident in Burnaby and that
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forever changed our life.
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I remember my brother and I
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going to that place of his
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death and weeping together
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because my father who had
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brought the, you know that
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strong, spiritual direction in
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our home and it just-- it was
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so hard to lose Dad and, of
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course, Mom now without Dad
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and it's never the same, but
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you know what, as Christians
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we have this hope and the hope
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we have is in Jesus Christ and
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that one day we will be
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reunited with moms, with dads,
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with grandparents, and maybe
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for some of you guys who are
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listening right now, to your
00:25:32.76\00:25:34.10
little babies that you lost.
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Family is the most important
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and I thank God for this one
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who really taught me the value
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of families.
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[MIKE] Amen, amen.
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Paul, we've run out of time,
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but I thank you for that
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encouraging note and I wonder
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if you could pray for us
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as we close.
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[PAUL] Sure, let's pray
00:25:54.48\00:25:55.32
together.
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Father in heaven, we wanna
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thank You that although we may
00:25:58.89\00:26:01.39
experience different things in
00:26:01.39\00:26:03.59
our lives that You are the
00:26:03.59\00:26:05.66
Father who never gives
00:26:05.66\00:26:07.03
up on us.
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I know that there are many
00:26:09.30\00:26:10.60
listeners here today that are
00:26:10.60\00:26:12.87
listening to this message and
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maybe hoped that they would
00:26:14.80\00:26:16.57
have had a family that was
00:26:16.57\00:26:18.24
together, that maybe they felt
00:26:18.24\00:26:20.44
alone or abandoned, but that
00:26:20.44\00:26:22.84
they in this moment will
00:26:22.84\00:26:24.18
experience that You are a God
00:26:24.18\00:26:25.81
who never forsakes and that
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they will see You, Jesus, as
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their Lord and Savior.
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So thank You for our
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listeners, bless and keep
00:26:32.22\00:26:33.36
them, thank You so much for
00:26:33.36\00:26:34.52
Mike and René, for the amazing
00:26:34.52\00:26:36.16
ministry they, It Is Written,
00:26:36.16\00:26:38.63
continues to do all these
00:26:38.63\00:26:40.33
years and we pray this in
00:26:40.33\00:26:41.93
Jesus' name, amen.
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[MIKE] Amen, amen.
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Thank you very much, Paul and
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Raquel, for sharing your
00:26:46.47\00:26:47.77
story on It Is Written
00:26:47.77\00:26:49.04
with us today.
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>> Friends, as Paul and Raquel
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shared the importance of
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making family first, we want
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to share with you a book that
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can help you build a
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stronger family.
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Our free offer for you is
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>> We want you to experience
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the truth found in the words
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of Jesus when He said,
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"It is written, man shall not"
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"live by bread alone, but by"
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"every word that proceeds"
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"out of the mouth of God.
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