>> Welcome to It Is Written
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Canada.
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Thank you for joining us here
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in Little Gem, Alberta on the
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Sankey farm where we are
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visiting with Murray and
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Elaine Sankey whose story
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compels one to pause and ask
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the question:
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when did my story begin?
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How did I get to where
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I am today?
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And what are the influences
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that led me to where I am
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today and who I am today?
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>> God had His hand in Murray
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and Elaine's life long before
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they could see it and today we
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will let them tell you
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their story.
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Murray and Elaine, welcome to
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It Is Written Canada.
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[ELAINE] Thank you for coming.
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>> Thank you, too, for coming
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and we just love to have you
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here in Little Gem.
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We invited you to visit us a
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little over a year ago and we
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have become friends since then
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and we didn't realize we had a
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story until you said we had a
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story in you, that's why
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you're here today to get our
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story of Little Gem.
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Where in the world are we?
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Well, we're in east-central
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Alberta in a dry part called--
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we call it the Alberta Outback
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and we have a large ranch here
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and we have a story.
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We realized that everybody has
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a story and so we're here to
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share it.
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>> Murray, you once told us
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that your story didn't begin
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with you, so take us back and
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tell us when did your
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story begin?
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>> Well, of course when I was
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younger, I thought the whole
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world revolved around me, but
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as I became older I realized,
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man, there were so many
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questions I wished I would
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have asked my grandfather
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because that's where our story
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began, it began in the Ukraine
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up on a shelf.
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My grandfather talks about
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when he was placed in a
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basket and his mother was
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giving birth to another child
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so that places my grandfather
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probably at two or three years
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of age, I would say, and it
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was burned into his memory how
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the colour was disappearing
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from his mother's face, back
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then it was home births that
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they were doing, and she died,
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she died and so he was left
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with his father who then,
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we don't know how many years
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later, he died.
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And so then the story goes
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that we don't think he had any
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brothers or sisters, but his
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uncle who is kinda hard on
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him, was abusing him, and my
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grandfather decided he was
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gonna leave the country, he
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was gonna get out.
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He had heard about this
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request of the Canadian
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government to come to Canada
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and settle Canada, have your
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own land, and so at about 17,
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18 years of age, he jumped on
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a ship and came to Montreal.
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And I know most people have
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seen the film, Titanic, and
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when I saw the film, Titanic,
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I said, "That's my grandfather,"
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"Jack is my grandfather."
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He jumped on this ship, no
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family, left everything, well
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family, he had an uncle, but
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he didn't care about his
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uncle, landed in Montreal when
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they should have sent him
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back, he instead got a job on
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a dairy farm in Quebec and in
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five or six months he learned
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French, now he came from the
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Ukraine, remember, he came
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from the Ukraine.
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So he learned French and then,
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later in life, we realized
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that Grandpa was very talented
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because he could speak five
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languages that he taught
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himself and he worked his way
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west and so he was born in
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1885 so he was about, this
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would have been about 1903 or
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so that he came to Canada.
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He worked his way west, in
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Manitoba he met who-- his
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wife-to-be, and then he kept
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coming into Alberta and he
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ended up just north of here,
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about 40 miles, 45 miles,
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working for an American
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rancher that had about 500
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horses and he was a hard guy,
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he was a hard guy, but--
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and very, very, how do you say
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it, he wanted to-- he had
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ideas for my grandfather and
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my grandfather had other ideas
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and my grandfather became
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aware of a Ukrainian settlement
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down here by Hemaruka.
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Now that cemetery and the
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church are still there in that
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little community thing where
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our parents are buried now.
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But my grandfather began to
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travel down by walking 45
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miles, he'd come down on
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weekends because he loved
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music and he loved his whisky
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and so he would play this
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"squeeze box," we call it, it
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wasn't an accordion, but it
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was some type of Ukrainian
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squeeze box that made music,
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so he'd walk down on weekends
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and play for them, and he
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discovered some land that he
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could stake a claim on.
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And George Allen, the guy he
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worked for was his name, he
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said, "Sankey, you forget"
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"that homesteading idea."
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"You work for me for a year"
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"and you'll go and buy any of"
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"them guys out."
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No, no, grandpa had his
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own idea.
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Now in his walking, he
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educated himself as to where
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he was by reading the survey
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markers at the northeast
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corner of every section and
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that was of course in Roman
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numerals that the surveyor
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people had installed and he
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knew exactly where he was in
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the country when he was
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walking.
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So later on as the settlers
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came in around 1908, '09, '10,
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'12, in there, he would hire
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on to show them where their
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claims were because they'd
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arrive in town off the train
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and they hadn't a clue where
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to go and so Grandpa would
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hire on and lead them.
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And so that is a memory of my
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grandfather.
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>> So he came from the
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Ukraine, he was kind of like
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that character from in the
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movie, the Titanic, but his
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Titanic didn't go down, it was
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a ship that came over here...
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>> Thank God.
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>> ...yeah, and he was a very
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big part of your life, coming
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from the Ukraine.
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Now, Elaine, you have a very
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similar-- it didn't start with
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you, your story, but it also
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started with your
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grandparents.
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>> That's right, my
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grandparents also immigrated
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from the Ukraine, except they
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came to eastern Saskatchewan
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and that's where they
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homesteaded and raised their
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family and that was my
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beginning.
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>> Was that easy for them?
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[ELAINE] Of course it was
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never easy, you know, they
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were very poor just like most
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everybody in that era, in that
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community was, and-- but, you
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know, they always had family
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values and raised their family
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and did the best they could.
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>> And with those
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difficulties, how did they
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make ends meet?
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>> Well, I remember after my
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grandfather retired even, he
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would take the tin cans that
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they would buy at the grocery
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store and once they were
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empty, he would cut them apart
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and use them as siding on
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his shed.
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You know, growing up in the--
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going through the Great
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Depression, you learned to use
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everything that you had, even
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the string that the groceries
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were tied with from the
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grocery store, you know, on
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the boxes and yeah so,
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it wasn't easy.
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>> Nothing went to waste.
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[ELAINE] No.
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>> You saved everything
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because you didn't have.
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>> That's right, but most
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people were in the same
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situation.
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>> Murray, your grandfather
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moved west to Alberta, where
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did his seeds of faith
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start growing?
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>> Well, it's quite an
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interesting story that we love
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as a family because as my
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grandfather was walking those
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45 miles on weekends to play
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for their dances and drink
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their whisky, he couldn't do
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it all in one day, he left
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work on Fridays and he'd walk
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and it would get dark and back
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in them days, when it got dark
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what do you do?
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There's no hotels or motels
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and you'd look around for a
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light and if there was no
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light you just curled up in a
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hollow somewhere 'cause there
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was very few trees and go to
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sleep, but he noticed this
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light somewhere south of
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Loyalist, Alberta which was
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almost halfway on his trip,
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and so he went and knocked on
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the door, this was early
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evening, and here was a
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family, and we found out later
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from a North Dakota family
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that were studying the Bible,
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they were having a Bible
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study, and they invited
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him in.
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And that was sort of customary
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in them days, you just went
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and knocked on somebody's
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house that had a light to stay
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overnight and so he was well
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accepted, he went in and
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if it had've been me,
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this is the amazing thing, if
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had've been me or Elaine, we
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would have said, "Are you"
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"hungry? Would you like"
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"something to eat?"
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And they possibly did, but
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they invited him to join in
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their Bible study and so he
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did and he listened to what
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they were reading and what
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they were studying and for the
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first time in his life, he
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discovered from God's Word
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that you didn't need to go to
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the priest to have your sins
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forgiven, you could talk to
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God yourself, it said in his
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Bible that you could do this.
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And they also, because he was
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musical and they obviously
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were, too, they taught him the
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song, Whiter Than Snow.
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The next morning when he was
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left, rested and fed, he says
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he was walking on air, singing
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the song, Whiter Than Snow.
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几ord Jesus I long to be
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小erfectly whole
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儿 want Thee forever to
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子ive in my soul
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丁reak down every idol
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勺ast out every foe
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刁ow wash me and I shall be
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已hiter than snow
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上hiter than snow
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巾es, whiter than snow
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刁ow wash me and I shall be
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已hiter than snow
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中
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几ord Jesus look down from
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三hy throne in the skies
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兀nd help me to make
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兀 complete sacrifice
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儿 give up myself
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兀nd whatever I know
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刁ow wash me and I shall be
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已hiter than snow
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>> So, Murray, your
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grandfather, he's walking
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across the prairies and he's--
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it's getting too dark so he
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sees the light in the
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distance, he goes, he knocks
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on the door, it's a North
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Dakota family, they're having
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an amazing Bible study, he
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learns so much, he's walking
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on air and he's singing Whiter
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Than Snow.
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>> Yeah, so, Mike, can you
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imagine, that Saturday morning
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he wakes up, he's fed, both
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spiritually and physically, and
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he's walking out of there, he
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told us he was walkin' on air,
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singing the song, Whiter Than
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Snow, and headin' to play for
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their dance and drink their
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whisky, get that picture.
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[MIKE] (laughs) That's pretty
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funny.
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>> So, Murray, there was the
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planting of the first seed of
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the gospel truth in his heart.
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How did that seed
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get nourished?
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>> Not quite sure because he
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did not become a Christian
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'til a few years later.
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But right about that time, he
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did marry my grandmother in
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1908 and in 1910 they staked
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their claim on the homestead
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here at Hemaruka and they
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began their life together.
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And it wasn't until about 1915
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when a travelling preacher, a
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Ukrainian travelling preacher,
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by the name of T. T. Babienko,
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came through the area and I'm
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just amazed, they don't make
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preachers like that these
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days, he carried a hammer and
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he helped the settlers build
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their houses and their barns
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during the day time and my
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grandfather says that in the
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evenings he held meetings and
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taught them the word of God.
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And my grandfather and
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grandmother said, "This is"
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"truth, this is what we want"
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"to do," and so in 1915 they
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were baptized by Babienko and
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he raised up a church, one of
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the largest in the province at
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that time, of 75 members in
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this area.
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>> So, Elaine, tell us about
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the conversion of your
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grandparents.
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[ELAINE] Well, it's interesting,
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the parallels when you go back
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in history, of our two families
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because this same preacher,
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Babienko, worked his way
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across the prairies from the
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west to the east and in the
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late 30's he was in eastern
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Saskatchewan where my
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grandparents were, where they
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had homesteaded and were
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raising their family.
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And he did the same thing, he,
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you know, helped them build
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their houses and barns and
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taught them God's word.
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And my grandparents on my
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father's side, my mother and
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father, who were pretty
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newly married at the time,
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my father's brother and his
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sister and several other
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families in that area were
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baptized by the same preacher.
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So, you know, it's amazing
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how, when you look back, how a
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seed planted by a North
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Dakota family on the prairie
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of Alberta was nurtured by
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this preacher that influenced
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both our families, and not
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only our grandparents, but how
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it has come down through the
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generations into, you know, my
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in-laws, my parents, and into
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our family and our children.
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[MIKE] That is amazing.
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So if we think about all the
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interactions that we have
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every day, they may be little
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interactions, but it can
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influence future generations.
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>> You never know what a word
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in due season or a kindness
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or, you know, just a testimony
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for the Lord, what it can do.
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>> So, Murray, your
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grandfather was converted,
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your grandparents were
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converted as well, Elaine,
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and sometimes when we look at
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conversions we just think,
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"Oh, exciting!"
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But there's something you have
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to kind of give up and that's
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what you used to be living
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like and so your grandfather
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used to be very social.
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You wanna tell us about that?
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>> Well, he was, we've come to
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discover, quite a party
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animal, he loved socializing,
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he loved partying.
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And, you know, six, seven
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years later when he became a
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Christian, he decided to
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change his lifestyle
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and so he did.
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And so he tells us-- told us
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that his friends and his
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neighbours thought he lost
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his mind.
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He would go to town and they'd
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stand across the street and
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they'd go like this, they'd
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point at Sankey, you know,
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they couldn't understand
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why a man would do this.
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And they forsook him and he
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said that was the hardest
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thing in his life.
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He went through the influenza
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in '18 and he lost his hair
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and lost their firstborn son,
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he experienced hardship on the
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homestead.
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Some of these stories, when I
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heard them, I just thought,
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"Oh, well, that's a good"
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"story of Grandpa," and I had
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that affirmed here just this
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spring where I was levelling
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off some ground on the
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homestead with my machine and
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this shiny thing appeared and
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I said, "What's that?" you
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know, "just one shiny thing,"
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it was not some junk pile or
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anything, but it was on the
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fence line on the far end of
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the quarter.
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So I got down and picked it up
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and here was this whisky
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bottle that says, "Gooderhams
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Whisky, established 1832."
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I thought, "Well, this is"
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"special," you know, so I took
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it home that night and we
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looked up, now if it hadn't
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been chipped, it was worth $25
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online and so I was gonna
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throw it away and then I
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thought, "There's a story
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here, there's a story here."
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This has got to be my
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grandfather's whisky bottle,
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you know?
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It's at the far end of the
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quarters, so picture this now,
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guys, he's out there plowing
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with his oxen, he's got this
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whisky bottle somehow around
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his neck and he gets to the
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far end where grandma's at the
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other end puttin' the house
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together and he has this
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little whisky, eventually it
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empties out, so he chucks it
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under the fence, OK, and here
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now 110 years later I uncover
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the evidence, OK, and I would
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just love when we all get to
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heaven to ask my grandpa,
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"Is this yours?"
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"Do you remember this?" you
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know, so coupled with this
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story though, it affirms that
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he was right.
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Now, I look at this and I say,
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"By God's grace I'm not going"
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"to AA today," you know?
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Now, his friends forsook him.
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He told us it took many years
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later for his friends to come
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back and it happened because
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they lived on a corner two
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miles from town and my
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grandmother was the best cook
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in the community and so people
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would plan on their trip to
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town, to stop at Sankey's
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for lunch, K.
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And so while Grandma was
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making the lunch, grandpa was
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visiting with them and he said
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after several years, his
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friends discovered that Sankey
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didn't go crazy, Sankey didn't
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go crazy, but he said it took
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quite a few years.
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>> That would have taken some
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time to win their confidence
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and win their friendship back.
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[MURRAY] Yes.
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>> So, Elaine, you also grew
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up on a farm so there's a lot
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of similarities between the
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two of you.
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>> Yes, my parents were
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married and lived in
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Saskatchewan on a farm and had
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my brother and sister there
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and then it was difficult
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'cause we didn't have
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water on our farm and
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they couldn't find a well,
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water in a well, so they
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decided to move just a little
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further east across the border
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into Manitoba, and that's
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where I was born.
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We had two quarters of land
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which wasn't a lot and so to
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supplement income, my father
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would work for the railroad in
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the summertime and when I was
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born, I had a hemorrhage
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on my brain.
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You know, back then it
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really wasn't diagnosed other
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than it was very serious.
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The doctor had said if it got
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any bigger, it, you know, I
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could possibly die.
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And there was a preacher, a
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Seventh-day Adventist preacher,
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who was friends with my
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parents and they prayed for me
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and miraculously it resolved
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and so I'm very, very grateful
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for that.
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Now growing up on the farm we
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had chickens, we had cows, we,
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you know, had a lot of chores,
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we had a big garden, but it
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was a little different country
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than it was here, it was very
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green and hilly, it rained
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there a lot more than
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it does here.
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>> So, Murray, you told us
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about your grandparents,
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tell us about your parents and
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how they affected your journey
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in life.
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>> OK, well, the Sankeys,
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of course, survived the
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depression, they learned all
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about resilience and
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sticking to it.
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When my mother graduated from
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the University of Calgary with
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her teaching degree there was
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a list of towns to go to and
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Hemaruka was on this list and
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they had never heard of
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Hemaruka and so her classmates
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dared her to go there.
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So Mother showed up in
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Hemaruka and Dad noticed her
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and, of course, the rest is
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history, they got married two
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or three years later, but in
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'49 and in 1950 they bought
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Little Gem.
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Now Little Gem was owned by a
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couple that wanted to retire,
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they owned the store, the post
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office, the gas business,
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Imperial Oil gas business,
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seven quarters of land and my
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dad scraped together enough
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money to buy the place for, I
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think he said $3500 and there
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was like $1500 worth of stock
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in the store, he said.
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So anyway, Mother was raising
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us, running the store, hired
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men were farming, Dad was
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trucking cattle and grain and
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he was going broke.
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He wasn't getting crops, he
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was getting some crops, but
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they'd either get hailed or
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frozen or snowed under or one
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year a prairie fire went
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through and burned his
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grain bins.
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It took twelve years before my
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dad actually marketed a good
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crop, it was in the 60's.
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So my mother and dad were
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working hard and not getting
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anywhere, they were out of
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money, I didn't realize it,
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but they were bankrupt, they
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had no money.
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So Mother went back teaching,
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us kids were helping
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on the farm.
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And so as I got older and
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that, I decided to go away to
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boarding school for part of my
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high school and some college.
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Now Elaine can tell the rest
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of that.
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>> So, Elaine, is that-- did
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you meet at the boarding
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school that Murray went to?
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>> Yes, actually, we did.
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It's a christian boarding
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school put on by our church in
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Lacombe, Alberta and I was in
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grade 12 when I met Murray and
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he was first year college.
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And I first noticed him, he
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was with a friend of mine and
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he was wearing this crazy hat
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and I thought, "Who's that"
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"guy with the crazy hat?"
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You know, he's not
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crazy-crazy, but, you know,
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he's different, he's unusual
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and that's when I first
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noticed him.
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So then my girlfriend set up a
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time when there was a group of
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us going to Red Deer to shop
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and Murray and his sister and
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my friend and her boyfriend
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and I went on this shopping
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trip and we weren't together
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while we shopped, but when we
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got back together to go back
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to the school, we discovered
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that he and I both bought the
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same thing and that was the
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Anne Murray 45 of "Snowbird."
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So that, you know, was--
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[MURRAY] It was a sign!
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>> Yes, it was kind of the
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sign that we did have
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something in common and we did
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have some chemistry, too.
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And so at that time, as far as
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Murray knew, I was a city girl
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because when I was 14
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my father had sold the farm
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and we had moved to Saskatoon,
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Saskatchewan.
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So as Murray and I were
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getting to know each other and
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there was a certain evening
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that we were sitting in fall
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outside and I said to him,
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"Oh, I like the sound of"
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"those combines, it reminds"
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"me of home," and he's like,
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"What? You know the sound"
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"of combines?"
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'Cause he thought I was a city
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girl. (laughs)
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So that's kind of, um...
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>> Yeah, her stock price
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went up. (laughs)
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>> That's where our journey
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began and how we got to know
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each other.
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[MURRAY] Yes.
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>> And so you took it further?
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>> We did, you know, after I
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graduated we were engaged, we
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each worked for a year before
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we got married and then I
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followed him or came out here
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to Little Gem, to the farm and
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of course I had stars in my
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eyes and all I could see was
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this handsome young man I was
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marrying, not thinking much
00:25:31.79\00:25:33.16
about the countryside I was
00:25:33.16\00:25:34.30
coming to.
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And I can remember looking out
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one evening and I couldn't see
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any lights on the horizon and
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I didn't know hardly anybody
00:25:43.30\00:25:45.71
in the community and I thought
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to myself, "Am I the only one"
00:25:48.21\00:25:50.31
"on this planet? What on"
00:25:50.31\00:25:52.61
"earth have I done?" (laughs)
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>> And we have run out of
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time, so...
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So we're going to-- I hate to
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cut it off here, this is a
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really important part of your
00:26:02.39\00:26:03.76
story, but I'm gonna ask you
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to continue your story next
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week, would that be OK?
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[ELAINE] Sure.
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[MURRAY] That's fine.
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[MIKE] Good, so we're gonna
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close with a word of prayer,
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I wonder, Murray, if you could
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pray for us as we close.
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>> OK.
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Father in heaven, we just
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are reminded as we reflect
00:26:20.84\00:26:23.28
on our family history of Your
00:26:23.28\00:26:25.91
leading in our lives and the
00:26:25.91\00:26:27.98
interest You take in us little
00:26:27.98\00:26:31.79
earthlings, that You love us
00:26:31.79\00:26:34.86
so much and that You have a
00:26:34.86\00:26:36.06
plan for each of us.
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And in our particular family
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there was a plan, as we look
00:26:40.06\00:26:41.70
back now, that is still being
00:26:41.70\00:26:43.67
fulfilled as we go on from day
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to day and we just thank You
00:26:46.63\00:26:48.64
for loving us and for caring
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for us, for leading us by way
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of Your Holy Spirit, for
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leading my grandfather to
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accept You as his personal
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saviour.
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We thank You for this and
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praise Your holy name,
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in Jesus' name, amen.
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[MIKE] Amen, amen.
00:27:03.18\00:27:04.82
Thank you so much, Murray and
00:27:04.82\00:27:06.29
Elaine, and we look forward to
00:27:06.29\00:27:07.66
meeting with you again next
00:27:07.66\00:27:08.82
week to continue sharing
00:27:08.82\00:27:10.69
your story.
00:27:10.69\00:27:12.03
Listening to Murray and
00:27:14.03\00:27:15.80
Elaine's story has taught us
00:27:15.80\00:27:17.97
practical life lessons such as
00:27:17.97\00:27:20.67
how to live with optimism and
00:27:20.67\00:27:23.67
with resilience.
00:27:23.67\00:27:25.34
So our free offer for you
00:27:25.34\00:27:27.01
today is Words of Hope.
00:27:27.01\00:27:29.01
>> Words of Hope will help you
00:27:29.01\00:27:30.85
see other life lessons that
00:27:30.85\00:27:32.55
guide us all in our Christian
00:27:32.55\00:27:34.32
walk such as the blessing of
00:27:34.32\00:27:35.85
generosity, the power of
00:27:35.85\00:27:37.82
humility, how to set
00:27:37.82\00:27:39.85
priorities, and the way to
00:27:39.85\00:27:41.92
persevere when life is tough.
00:27:41.92\00:27:44.66
[MIKE] Words of Hope aims to
00:27:44.66\00:27:46.36
bring you closer to Christ,
00:27:46.36\00:27:48.23
the true source of life and
00:27:48.23\00:27:50.33
light from above.
00:27:50.33\00:27:52.17
We want you to experience the
00:27:56.81\00:27:58.67
truth that is found in the
00:27:58.67\00:28:00.48
words of Jesus when He said,
00:28:00.48\00:28:02.74
"It is written, man shall not"
00:28:02.74\00:28:05.28
"live by bread alone, but by"
00:28:05.28\00:28:06.98
"every word that proceeds out"
00:28:06.98\00:28:08.88
"of the mouth of God."
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>> So at a very young age, I
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fell in love with the green
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John Deere tractors and that
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was at about 8 years of age, I
00:28:19.89\00:28:21.46
learned to drive this one when
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I was about 12 years old it
00:28:23.30\00:28:24.90
was time for a new tractor.
00:28:24.90\00:28:26.74
And my dad ordered it, it came
00:28:26.74\00:28:31.97
in, a new John Deere tractor.
00:28:31.97\00:28:34.24
And when I was in school,
00:28:34.24\00:28:35.54
I knew that he had gone
00:28:35.54\00:28:37.71
to town to get it.
00:28:37.71\00:28:39.15
When I came home from
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school, I looked around the
00:28:40.35\00:28:42.55
yard, Dad was not around, but
00:28:42.55\00:28:44.42
I found the tractor in a
00:28:44.42\00:28:46.05
shed and I sat on that tractor
00:28:46.05\00:28:48.82
and smelled the new paint 'til
00:28:48.82\00:28:50.79
it got to be dark outside and
00:28:50.79\00:28:53.40
I had decided at that point
00:28:53.40\00:28:55.90
that I was gonna be a farmer.
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