¤¤ 00:00:00.50\00:00:41.70 >> Hello and thank you 00:00:41.70\00:00:42.64 for joining us on 00:00:42.64\00:00:43.74 It Is Written Canada. 00:00:43.74\00:00:45.44 Our guests today are Norwill 00:00:45.44\00:00:47.61 and Hollace Simmonds who are 00:00:47.61\00:00:50.08 about to share from their 00:00:50.08\00:00:51.88 hearts the joy of their 00:00:51.88\00:00:53.58 inspirational relationship 00:00:53.58\00:00:55.75 with Jesus, their music, 00:00:55.75\00:00:57.92 their story, and their 00:00:57.92\00:01:00.26 magnetic personalities. 00:01:00.26\00:01:02.96 Prepare to be inspired. 00:01:02.96\00:01:06.09 >> Norwill and Hollace, thank 00:01:07.60\00:01:08.96 you so much for inviting us 00:01:08.96\00:01:10.70 into your beautiful home. 00:01:10.70\00:01:12.60 >> We're humbled. 00:01:12.60\00:01:14.20 >> So, Hollace, I'm gonna 00:01:14.20\00:01:15.47 start with you. 00:01:15.47\00:01:16.84 Take us back to your 00:01:16.84\00:01:18.01 beginnings and how you ended 00:01:18.01\00:01:20.04 up in Canada and how you met 00:01:20.04\00:01:22.01 Norwill. 00:01:22.01\00:01:23.48 >> Well, I was born in 00:01:23.48\00:01:25.01 Barbados, I'm the fourth child 00:01:25.01\00:01:28.15 of seven. 00:01:28.15\00:01:29.85 My dad who was a carpenter was 00:01:29.85\00:01:32.55 also an artist and my mom was 00:01:32.55\00:01:34.76 a homemaker. 00:01:34.76\00:01:36.26 [Mike] And being an artist, 00:01:36.26\00:01:37.56 this is one of his paintings 00:01:37.56\00:01:38.73 sitting on the mantelpiece. 00:01:38.73\00:01:40.00 >> It is. 00:01:40.00\00:01:41.03 >> And this is a scene in the 00:01:41.03\00:01:42.03 Barbados... 00:01:42.03\00:01:42.93 >> Yes. 00:01:42.93\00:01:43.77 >> ...beautiful. 00:01:43.77\00:01:45.17 Getting ready to 00:01:45.17\00:01:46.37 get on a ship. 00:01:46.37\00:01:47.70 >> Yes, it's a historical 00:01:47.70\00:01:48.67 piece actually. 00:01:48.67\00:01:49.70 >> Awesome. 00:01:49.70\00:01:51.14 >> And my mom was one of a 00:01:51.14\00:01:54.01 twin and her sister who had 00:01:54.01\00:01:57.11 no children of her own, 00:01:57.11\00:01:59.95 brought me to Canada to be 00:01:59.95\00:02:02.48 with her for a few years. 00:02:02.48\00:02:04.19 I went back to Barbados after 00:02:04.19\00:02:06.05 that and I completed high 00:02:06.05\00:02:07.39 school, visiting in the 00:02:07.39\00:02:09.02 summers, but I completed high 00:02:09.02\00:02:10.53 school there and then I 00:02:10.53\00:02:12.06 decided I wanted to come back 00:02:12.06\00:02:13.90 to Canada. 00:02:13.90\00:02:15.53 And that's when I met Norwill. 00:02:15.53\00:02:17.97 >> And both of you are very 00:02:17.97\00:02:20.07 musical so part of that 00:02:20.07\00:02:21.90 journey was your journey to 00:02:21.90\00:02:23.81 get to Canada. 00:02:23.81\00:02:25.17 Tell us about your musical 00:02:25.17\00:02:26.24 journey, Norwill. 00:02:26.24\00:02:27.91 >> Mmm, I started singing at 00:02:27.91\00:02:29.71 the age of, I think it was 00:02:29.71\00:02:31.38 nine years old, and it was 00:02:31.38\00:02:34.45 just a little class party that 00:02:34.45\00:02:36.92 we were having, I don't 00:02:36.92\00:02:38.59 remember the occasion, but... 00:02:38.59\00:02:40.12 we-- everybody, all the kids 00:02:41.56\00:02:44.36 did their little thing and I 00:02:44.36\00:02:46.13 thought, "Oh, I could sing" 00:02:46.13\00:02:47.56 "this song." 00:02:47.56\00:02:48.80 And I got up and sang this-- 00:02:48.80\00:02:50.10 It was a very popular song 00:02:50.10\00:02:51.10 at the time. 00:02:51.10\00:02:52.83 They thought it was good, 00:02:52.83\00:02:54.24 I thought it was, yeah, OK. 00:02:54.24\00:02:57.04 By the time I got home, my mom 00:02:57.04\00:02:59.61 heard that I did the song. 00:02:59.61\00:03:01.68 Now, we're all Adventist and, 00:03:01.68\00:03:04.58 you know, in those times 00:03:04.58\00:03:06.31 Adventists, we don't go just 00:03:06.31\00:03:08.02 singing reggae songs all over 00:03:08.02\00:03:09.72 and she pulled me up that 00:03:09.72\00:03:11.19 evening, she says, 00:03:11.19\00:03:13.29 "How are you going to school" 00:03:13.29\00:03:14.59 "singing reggae songs?" 00:03:14.59\00:03:16.69 "How come you never sing" 00:03:16.69\00:03:17.79 "at church?" 00:03:17.79\00:03:18.86 And I thought about it and I 00:03:18.86\00:03:20.10 said to her, "They never" 00:03:20.10\00:03:21.63 "asked me to sing at church." 00:03:21.63\00:03:23.16 And she said, "Well, you're" 00:03:23.16\00:03:24.37 "singing on Saturday." 00:03:24.37\00:03:25.87 I said, "OK." 00:03:25.87\00:03:27.54 Now I know lots of songs 00:03:27.54\00:03:30.34 because every Sunday it's 00:03:30.34\00:03:31.64 traditional, people just play 00:03:31.64\00:03:33.11 gospel music all over and so 00:03:33.11\00:03:35.94 there were songs that I know 00:03:35.94\00:03:37.15 so the Sabbath I sang a song. 00:03:37.15\00:03:41.92 And they thought, "Wow!" 00:03:41.92\00:03:45.05 They were blown away by it. 00:03:45.05\00:03:46.49 >> He can sing! 00:03:46.49\00:03:47.62 >> Yeah. (laughs) 00:03:47.62\00:03:48.92 I have no idea 00:03:48.92\00:03:49.99 what that is, but! 00:03:49.99\00:03:50.99 But anyhow, so who were not 00:03:50.99\00:03:54.96 there in the morning, by 00:03:54.96\00:03:56.50 evening everybody was pulling 00:03:56.50\00:03:57.77 me aside, 00:03:57.77\00:03:59.10 "Hey, sing the song for me." 00:03:59.10\00:04:01.84 And then that's when, 00:04:01.84\00:04:04.31 you know, everybody realized 00:04:04.31\00:04:06.47 that there was Spurgie, Norwill. 00:04:06.47\00:04:09.41 [Everol] I will tell you 00:04:10.35\00:04:11.61 about Spurgie. 00:04:11.61\00:04:13.58 You will know him as Norwill, 00:04:16.55\00:04:18.42 a lot of people know him as 00:04:18.42\00:04:19.42 Norwill Simmonds, but I'll 00:04:19.42\00:04:20.56 tell you about Spurgie because 00:04:20.56\00:04:21.82 that's who I know. 00:04:21.82\00:04:23.49 Spurgie brought out something 00:04:23.49\00:04:26.43 in me at that time in my life 00:04:26.43\00:04:27.96 to where I started-- I saw 00:04:27.96\00:04:31.17 Jesus in a different light. 00:04:31.17\00:04:32.83 I start studying Jesus, 00:04:32.83\00:04:34.44 I start seeing how Jesus moved 00:04:34.44\00:04:38.51 and I became so taken up with 00:04:38.51\00:04:43.51 Jesus and that was all because 00:04:43.51\00:04:45.41 of Spurgie, 00:04:45.41\00:04:46.72 the way our Spurgie start 00:04:46.72\00:04:48.25 living his life. 00:04:48.25\00:04:50.15 His contribution 00:04:50.15\00:04:53.12 must be to God. 00:04:53.12\00:04:54.89 That's him today and that's 00:04:54.89\00:04:56.86 where he has always been. 00:04:56.86\00:04:58.46 His voice must be for God 00:04:58.46\00:05:01.13 and that's the Spurgie 00:05:01.13\00:05:02.30 that I know. 00:05:02.30\00:05:03.43 >> There was one season when 00:05:06.03\00:05:07.37 we were doing Harvest 00:05:07.37\00:05:08.54 Ingathering, which we call 00:05:08.54\00:05:09.77 "ADRA" now, 00:05:09.77\00:05:11.31 and one of the ways in which 00:05:11.31\00:05:14.51 we do ADRA, we go out downtown 00:05:14.51\00:05:18.11 in the community or stuff like 00:05:18.11\00:05:19.68 that, but we as a group, we 00:05:19.68\00:05:21.02 decided that we were going to 00:05:21.02\00:05:22.38 go into an area called 00:05:22.38\00:05:24.22 Ironshore, just where just 00:05:24.22\00:05:25.99 guest houses are. 00:05:25.99\00:05:27.36 And so we went in there. 00:05:27.36\00:05:29.22 I went to this one house, 00:05:29.22\00:05:31.33 last house we went to one 00:05:31.33\00:05:32.76 evening and it was an older 00:05:32.76\00:05:34.76 couple and we sang for them 00:05:34.76\00:05:39.10 and they were just so thrilled 00:05:39.10\00:05:42.24 and by the end of the evening 00:05:42.24\00:05:44.01 she says, "Would you" 00:05:44.01\00:05:45.34 "like to go to Canada?" 00:05:45.34\00:05:47.11 And I thought, "Yes!" 00:05:47.11\00:05:49.51 And it happened so fast. 00:05:49.51\00:05:52.61 By then I went home, I told my 00:05:52.61\00:05:54.65 parents and they came and they 00:05:54.65\00:05:57.49 met with them and, to cut a 00:05:57.49\00:05:59.79 long story short, I made it to 00:05:59.79\00:06:02.16 Canada in 1976, June of 1976. 00:06:02.16\00:06:05.63 >> Wow, how old were you at 00:06:05.63\00:06:06.66 that time? 00:06:06.66\00:06:07.23 >> I was twelve, 00:06:07.23\00:06:08.30 going on thirteen. 00:06:08.30\00:06:09.16 >> Wow, so that was a big time 00:06:10.17\00:06:11.93 for you? 00:06:11.93\00:06:13.03 [Norwill] Oh, it was amazing. 00:06:13.03\00:06:14.47 >> Very exciting. 00:06:14.47\00:06:15.80 >> Yeah, first time my eyes 00:06:15.80\00:06:16.91 were open to flying in a 00:06:16.91\00:06:18.14 plane and seeing a 00:06:18.14\00:06:19.91 different country. 00:06:19.91\00:06:21.81 I got involved with choirs and 00:06:21.81\00:06:23.35 stuff like that and I ended up 00:06:23.35\00:06:26.48 singing with an amazing choir 00:06:26.48\00:06:28.35 called Sound Idea and we went 00:06:28.35\00:06:30.75 one weekend to a place called 00:06:30.75\00:06:32.55 Guelph to sing and that's 00:06:32.55\00:06:34.39 where I met Hollace. 00:06:34.39\00:06:36.19 Yeah, she was-- she came as a 00:06:36.19\00:06:37.99 visitor to one of our 00:06:37.99\00:06:40.36 directors and she sat her down 00:06:40.36\00:06:42.36 beside me and she whispered, 00:06:42.36\00:06:43.57 she said, "Take care of her" 00:06:43.57\00:06:44.63 "for me." 00:06:44.63\00:06:46.03 I said, "OK." Yeah. 00:06:46.03\00:06:49.40 Not with any intention, but 00:06:49.40\00:06:51.31 here it is, I'm still taking 00:06:51.31\00:06:52.71 care of her. 00:06:52.71\00:06:53.68 (laughter) 00:06:53.68\00:06:54.68 [René] I was gonna say, and 00:06:54.68\00:06:55.61 the rest is history. 00:06:55.61\00:06:56.71 (laughter) 00:06:56.71\00:06:57.71 [René] So if someone came to 00:06:57.71\00:07:00.28 you and you had to tell them 00:07:00.28\00:07:02.75 about Hollace, like... 00:07:02.75\00:07:04.72 what would make-- what makes 00:07:05.72\00:07:07.69 Hollace Hollace? 00:07:07.69\00:07:09.22 [Norwill] Oh, her smile... 00:07:09.22\00:07:11.23 it was so electric, 00:07:12.13\00:07:16.33 it was so pulling. 00:07:16.33\00:07:17.77 I love her smile. 00:07:17.77\00:07:19.47 You know, every time we sit 00:07:19.47\00:07:20.44 and we talk about it, we say, 00:07:20.44\00:07:22.00 "That was just God's doing." 00:07:22.00\00:07:25.74 [Mike] Yeah, putting you 00:07:25.74\00:07:27.31 together, yeah. 00:07:27.31\00:07:28.88 So then let me throw the same 00:07:28.88\00:07:30.11 question to you then, Hollace. 00:07:30.11\00:07:31.65 What makes Norwill Norwill? 00:07:31.65\00:07:33.48 >> He's a people person. 00:07:35.22\00:07:37.19 He has a very real way 00:07:38.32\00:07:40.76 about him. 00:07:40.76\00:07:42.56 He treats everybody the same 00:07:42.56\00:07:45.89 and I think that's one of the 00:07:45.89\00:07:46.96 things that really touched my 00:07:46.96\00:07:48.76 heart because he didn't treat 00:07:48.76\00:07:52.90 me any different to my 00:07:52.90\00:07:54.90 girlfriends when we were all 00:07:54.90\00:07:56.30 together so that kinda told me 00:07:56.30\00:07:58.87 that he wasn't just flattering 00:07:58.87\00:08:00.14 me so that really had an 00:08:00.14\00:08:04.28 effect on me. 00:08:04.28\00:08:06.28 So I was interested in getting 00:08:06.28\00:08:07.55 to know him better. 00:08:07.55\00:08:08.82 [Norwill] Can I add one more 00:08:09.62\00:08:10.49 thing, Mike? 00:08:10.49\00:08:11.72 Hollace could adapt to my 00:08:11.72\00:08:12.75 friends also. 00:08:12.75\00:08:14.09 That was the greatest thing. 00:08:14.09\00:08:15.22 You know? 00:08:15.22\00:08:16.29 She was so comfortable with my 00:08:16.29\00:08:17.59 friends and that was awesome. 00:08:17.59\00:08:20.06 And I realized that behind the 00:08:20.06\00:08:23.26 smile there was somebody there 00:08:23.26\00:08:24.67 that I really liked. 00:08:24.67\00:08:25.70 >> Yeah, yeah. 00:08:25.70\00:08:27.00 And you both sing as well. 00:08:27.00\00:08:29.20 That's beautiful. 00:08:29.20\00:08:31.27 [René] So, Norwill and Hollace, 00:08:31.27\00:08:32.94 you are both very musical, 00:08:32.94\00:08:34.78 so please can you sing a song 00:08:34.78\00:08:36.58 for us right now? 00:08:36.58\00:08:37.91 >> Definitely. 00:08:37.91\00:08:39.05 This Song of Worship is a very 00:08:39.05\00:08:40.78 beautiful song, it was written 00:08:40.78\00:08:41.75 by Dana Marie Smith. 00:08:41.75\00:08:43.25 We would definitely love to do 00:08:43.25\00:08:44.39 this for you. 00:08:44.39\00:08:45.52 ¤¤ 00:08:49.82\00:09:02.34 ¤I'm not one of many words 00:09:02.34\00:09:06.88 ¤Average speech at best 00:09:06.88\00:09:12.35 ¤All I know 00:09:12.35\00:09:14.48 ¤if I don't praise 00:09:14.48\00:09:17.39 ¤my soul will have no rest 00:09:17.39\00:09:21.26 ¤I don't want to wait until 00:09:23.73\00:09:28.00 ¤the day for You to come 00:09:28.00\00:09:33.00 ¤To sing of Your goodness 00:09:33.00\00:09:36.00 ¤Your mercy and grace 00:09:36.00\00:09:38.61 ¤and all that You have done 00:09:38.61\00:09:43.01 ¤This song of worship 00:09:43.01\00:09:46.51 ¤is coming from my heart 00:09:46.51\00:09:48.52 ¤This song of worship 00:09:48.52\00:09:51.82 ¤is coming from my soul 00:09:51.82\00:09:54.02 ¤This song of worship 00:09:54.02\00:09:57.03 ¤is coming from my mouth 00:09:57.03\00:09:59.29 ¤This song of worship 00:09:59.29\00:10:02.10 ¤is for You 00:10:02.10\00:10:05.63 ¤The greatness of 00:10:05.63\00:10:07.87 ¤Your majesty 00:10:07.87\00:10:10.07 ¤exceeds the universal bounds 00:10:10.07\00:10:15.28 ¤Yet in the smallest 00:10:16.51\00:10:18.81 ¤and simplest things 00:10:18.81\00:10:20.78 ¤Your handiwork is found 00:10:20.78\00:10:25.89 ¤The folly of the wisest men 00:10:27.52\00:10:31.26 ¤ry to prove that 00:10:31.26\00:10:33.23 ¤You're not real 00:10:33.23\00:10:36.20 ¤But they can't take away 00:10:37.33\00:10:39.83 ¤that You live in me 00:10:39.83\00:10:42.67 ¤or the peace or joy I feel 00:10:42.67\00:10:47.28 ¤This song of worship 00:10:47.28\00:10:50.58 ¤is coming from my heart 00:10:50.58\00:10:52.58 ¤This song of worship 00:10:52.58\00:10:55.92 ¤is coming from my soul 00:10:55.92\00:10:58.09 ¤This song of worship 00:10:58.09\00:11:01.09 ¤is coming from my mouth 00:11:01.09\00:11:03.22 ¤This song of worship 00:11:03.22\00:11:06.06 ¤is for You 00:11:06.06\00:11:09.66 ¤Awesome Father, my Creator 00:11:09.66\00:11:20.04 ¤Living waters 00:11:20.04\00:11:25.18 ¤flow through me 00:11:25.18\00:11:30.82 ¤Precious Jesus, my Redeemer 00:11:30.82\00:11:41.66 ¤You are worthy of all praise 00:11:41.66\00:11:51.31 ¤This song of worship 00:11:51.31\00:11:54.61 ¤is coming from my heart 00:11:54.61\00:11:56.54 ¤This song of worship 00:11:56.54\00:11:59.78 ¤is coming from my soul 00:11:59.78\00:12:01.82 ¤This song of worship 00:12:01.82\00:12:05.32 ¤is coming from my mouth 00:12:05.32\00:12:07.06 ¤This song of worship 00:12:07.06\00:12:10.16 ¤is for You 00:12:10.16\00:12:14.30 ¤My heart's desire 00:12:14.30\00:12:16.77 ¤is to worship You 00:12:16.77\00:12:19.80 ¤My sinful soul cries out 00:12:19.80\00:12:27.68 >> Thank you so much for that 00:12:32.65\00:12:34.15 song and, you know, worship, 00:12:34.15\00:12:36.89 that's what it was about, 00:12:36.89\00:12:38.35 but worship for your lives is 00:12:38.35\00:12:39.82 what it's all about. 00:12:39.82\00:12:40.89 I know from talking to your 00:12:40.89\00:12:41.72 friends, talking to your 00:12:41.72\00:12:43.26 children that Jesus, 00:12:43.26\00:12:45.86 your relationship with Jesus, 00:12:45.86\00:12:47.36 your relationship with God 00:12:47.36\00:12:48.50 is so central. 00:12:48.50\00:12:49.40 So what does your worship 00:12:49.40\00:12:50.27 experience look like? 00:12:50.27\00:12:51.57 Your daily experience. 00:12:51.57\00:12:53.27 >> We rise very early in the 00:12:55.17\00:12:56.67 mornings for worship and we 00:12:56.67\00:12:59.47 separate our worship and it's 00:12:59.47\00:13:01.48 very intense, our study time. 00:13:01.48\00:13:04.01 So we have maybe an hour and a 00:13:04.01\00:13:05.85 half, two hours of study time 00:13:05.85\00:13:07.72 by ourselves and then we will 00:13:07.72\00:13:09.92 come together and will do 00:13:09.92\00:13:11.95 another study. 00:13:11.95\00:13:13.96 And, again, I love to use my 00:13:13.96\00:13:17.66 guitar, so I use my guitar, 00:13:17.66\00:13:19.33 we will sing a song. 00:13:19.33\00:13:20.73 What's our favourite song 00:13:20.73\00:13:21.93 again that we do for morning? 00:13:21.93\00:13:23.03 ¤Lord, in the morning 00:13:23.03\00:13:25.33 ¤Thou shalt hear my voice 00:13:25.33\00:13:28.04 ¤ascending high... 00:13:28.04\00:13:30.41 We love doing that and so 00:13:30.41\00:13:32.34 we do that and we have our 00:13:32.34\00:13:34.81 really intense time of 00:13:34.81\00:13:36.64 studying and, you know, really 00:13:36.64\00:13:39.65 getting to understand what the 00:13:39.65\00:13:42.48 whole message is all about. 00:13:42.48\00:13:44.59 And we were able to figure it 00:13:44.59\00:13:45.75 out, it was about character, 00:13:45.75\00:13:47.56 the gospel is about character. 00:13:47.56\00:13:49.09 God simply just wants to 00:13:49.09\00:13:50.43 change our character. 00:13:50.43\00:13:52.26 So that's what we dwell on 00:13:52.26\00:13:54.10 every day, how do we change 00:13:54.10\00:13:55.46 this character to look like 00:13:55.46\00:13:56.60 the character of Christ. 00:13:56.60\00:13:58.03 [Mike] Mmm, beautiful. 00:13:58.03\00:14:00.17 >> When I think of Hollace and 00:14:02.27\00:14:04.01 Norwill as a couple and what 00:14:04.01\00:14:07.44 they've actually journeyed on 00:14:07.44\00:14:09.21 together, I think of them 00:14:09.21\00:14:11.78 even-- I'm not quite sure 00:14:11.78\00:14:14.62 which one of them first 00:14:14.62\00:14:16.15 started on the vegan 00:14:16.15\00:14:18.05 lifestyle, but, again, it's a 00:14:18.05\00:14:19.82 journey that they took 00:14:19.82\00:14:20.96 together. 00:14:20.96\00:14:22.72 They explore things together 00:14:22.72\00:14:25.53 and I think that's what just 00:14:25.53\00:14:28.06 makes their union so strong. 00:14:28.06\00:14:30.60 When it comes to having 00:14:30.60\00:14:32.73 worship and family, morning 00:14:32.73\00:14:35.04 and evening, that's something 00:14:35.04\00:14:36.64 that they have done with their 00:14:36.64\00:14:38.44 boys all along and I just 00:14:38.44\00:14:40.71 appreciate the fact that 00:14:40.71\00:14:42.54 they-- it's not a solo unit, 00:14:42.54\00:14:46.41 even though they're very 00:14:46.41\00:14:48.08 strong individually, together 00:14:48.08\00:14:50.55 the seem to solidify an even 00:14:50.55\00:14:54.76 better bond because of the 00:14:54.76\00:14:56.99 unity in what they do. 00:14:56.99\00:14:58.89 So it's-- they don't leave 00:14:58.89\00:15:01.86 each other behind in terms of 00:15:01.86\00:15:04.30 growing in their faith, in 00:15:04.30\00:15:06.17 terms of trying to deepen 00:15:06.17\00:15:07.84 their relationship with God. 00:15:07.84\00:15:10.37 They share with each other in 00:15:10.37\00:15:12.37 a way that just makes you want 00:15:12.37\00:15:15.84 to even be around them even 00:15:15.84\00:15:18.35 more and I truly appreciate 00:15:18.35\00:15:20.58 that about them. 00:15:20.58\00:15:22.52 >> So, Norwill and Hollace, 00:15:24.25\00:15:25.75 you were blessed with 00:15:25.75\00:15:27.22 four sons. 00:15:27.22\00:15:29.32 So, Hollace, can you tell us 00:15:29.32\00:15:31.09 what it was like raising boys, 00:15:31.09\00:15:33.93 about homeschooling, and your 00:15:33.93\00:15:35.86 relationship with it like it 00:15:35.86\00:15:37.43 is with them today? 00:15:37.43\00:15:39.37 >> Raising sons... 00:15:40.47\00:15:42.84 Boys are energetic, 00:15:42.84\00:15:44.47 they're very challenging, 00:15:44.47\00:15:46.37 but they have a very 00:15:46.37\00:15:49.11 special bond with Mom. 00:15:49.11\00:15:52.25 For homeschooling, it was 00:15:52.25\00:15:55.38 challenging, but like anything 00:15:55.38\00:15:57.22 else in life, you know, you 00:15:57.22\00:15:58.55 have to pick the most 00:15:58.55\00:16:00.16 practical and adaptable way of 00:16:00.16\00:16:02.16 dealing with life's challenges 00:16:02.16\00:16:03.83 and to home school at that 00:16:03.83\00:16:05.39 point was what was necessary 00:16:05.39\00:16:08.76 I think. 00:16:08.76\00:16:10.53 Out of homeschooling came 00:16:10.53\00:16:14.00 three young men who decided 00:16:14.00\00:16:16.24 that they all want to be 00:16:16.24\00:16:17.37 entrepreneurs. 00:16:17.37\00:16:18.94 They wanna use their talents 00:16:18.94\00:16:20.98 and their abilities to, 00:16:20.98\00:16:23.88 you know, to run their lives 00:16:23.88\00:16:25.75 and not have somebody else run 00:16:25.75\00:16:27.25 their lives for them and 00:16:27.25\00:16:29.18 decide how and when and why 00:16:29.18\00:16:31.09 and where. 00:16:31.09\00:16:33.05 >> We wanted them to have a 00:16:33.05\00:16:35.12 good education, but we also 00:16:35.12\00:16:37.19 wanted them to have something 00:16:37.19\00:16:38.89 they can always lean on because 00:16:38.89\00:16:41.20 if something fails you need 00:16:41.20\00:16:42.53 something in your back pocket 00:16:42.53\00:16:44.07 to pull out and I thought, 00:16:44.07\00:16:46.10 with all these different 00:16:46.10\00:16:47.14 skills that they have, 00:16:47.14\00:16:48.24 that they more than one 00:16:48.24\00:16:49.57 trump card to use. 00:16:49.57\00:16:51.67 >> Yeah, no life experience is 00:16:53.61\00:16:55.71 definitely what brought them 00:16:55.71\00:16:59.55 to the way they are. 00:16:59.55\00:17:00.82 It influenced everything 00:17:00.82\00:17:05.05 based on how they grew up, 00:17:05.05\00:17:07.92 the way they travelled around, 00:17:07.92\00:17:09.76 'cause my dad came to Canada-- 00:17:09.76\00:17:11.56 Both my parents came to Canada 00:17:11.56\00:17:12.73 young age, going back and 00:17:12.73\00:17:15.26 forth between the islands and 00:17:15.26\00:17:17.43 here and eventually settling 00:17:17.43\00:17:21.74 here and creating a life for 00:17:21.74\00:17:23.44 themselves away from their 00:17:23.44\00:17:25.04 families and I think having to 00:17:25.04\00:17:27.51 figure out a lot on your own 00:17:27.51\00:17:31.18 will just... 00:17:31.18\00:17:32.88 Like when you figure it out, 00:17:34.52\00:17:36.08 it's kinda settled in your 00:17:36.08\00:17:37.39 mind for sure that this is 00:17:37.39\00:17:38.65 how I came to this 00:17:38.65\00:17:40.39 understanding and it was based 00:17:40.39\00:17:42.79 on my own experiences and not 00:17:42.79\00:17:44.16 the experience of others and 00:17:44.16\00:17:45.69 people telling me 00:17:45.69\00:17:47.20 this is how it is. 00:17:47.20\00:17:48.80 >> I think our parents are 00:17:48.80\00:17:50.33 also pretty, like, they're 00:17:50.33\00:17:51.97 independent thinkers and I 00:17:51.97\00:17:53.57 think that's one thing that 00:17:53.57\00:17:54.67 they always taught us to be, 00:17:54.67\00:17:57.24 like, just reason things out 00:17:57.24\00:18:00.94 for yourself. 00:18:00.94\00:18:02.54 Like when you get information, 00:18:02.54\00:18:04.95 think about the information, 00:18:04.95\00:18:05.71 don't just take the 00:18:05.71\00:18:06.78 information, you know? 00:18:06.78\00:18:08.72 So I think the way they are 00:18:08.72\00:18:12.55 now is also just like, partly 00:18:12.55\00:18:15.36 just naturally where life 00:18:15.36\00:18:16.79 brought them to be because of 00:18:16.79\00:18:18.39 the way that they taught 00:18:18.39\00:18:19.79 themselves to think. 00:18:19.79\00:18:21.10 >> I think that's why we're 00:18:22.10\00:18:23.13 also so flexible in, like, 00:18:23.13\00:18:25.53 where we go and what we do. 00:18:25.53\00:18:26.87 >> Yeah. 00:18:26.87\00:18:28.20 >> ...'cause we've seen them 00:18:28.20\00:18:29.90 move around and do a bunch of 00:18:29.90\00:18:31.27 different things and just try 00:18:31.27\00:18:33.38 and figure out the kinks 00:18:33.38\00:18:35.61 and just enjoy the learning 00:18:35.61\00:18:37.58 process as well which has 00:18:37.58\00:18:40.22 definitely, I think has 00:18:40.22\00:18:41.75 definitely influenced us to 00:18:41.75\00:18:44.45 try any and everything even if 00:18:44.45\00:18:49.29 it's, like, the trajectory is 00:18:49.29\00:18:52.06 good and we're going down this 00:18:52.06\00:18:54.20 path strongly, we still wanna 00:18:54.20\00:18:56.03 look around and see what else 00:18:56.03\00:18:58.13 there is to do learn. 00:18:58.13\00:18:59.83 So yeah. 00:19:00.54\00:19:01.57 >> My parents are very 00:19:02.44\00:19:03.94 strong-willed. 00:19:03.94\00:19:05.31 That's what I think my 00:19:05.31\00:19:08.24 parents have shown me a lot of 00:19:08.24\00:19:10.61 will over the years to pretty 00:19:10.61\00:19:12.95 much get through anything, 00:19:12.95\00:19:14.72 do anything and it's always 00:19:14.72\00:19:16.15 just the both of them 00:19:16.15\00:19:17.25 together, so... 00:19:17.25\00:19:19.72 I think that, I don't know 00:19:19.72\00:19:21.42 from, like, their perceptive, 00:19:21.42\00:19:22.99 but my parents have always 00:19:22.99\00:19:24.06 been like, kinda like, to me, 00:19:24.06\00:19:26.76 different from all their 00:19:26.76\00:19:28.23 friends, but they're different 00:19:28.23\00:19:29.53 together, so like... 00:19:29.53\00:19:30.90 >> Yeah, they're on the same 00:19:30.90\00:19:32.40 page, but they're unafraid to 00:19:32.40\00:19:34.10 be themselves, you know? 00:19:34.10\00:19:36.87 Unafraid to be themselves and 00:19:36.87\00:19:38.77 unafraid to-- they cheer each 00:19:38.77\00:19:42.44 other on so they're kind of 00:19:42.44\00:19:44.05 like the-- all the validation 00:19:44.05\00:19:44.91 they need is from each other 00:19:44.91\00:19:46.01 so they... 00:19:46.01\00:19:47.72 they're in their own world, 00:19:50.32\00:19:52.42 you know? 00:19:52.42\00:19:53.59 >> Entrepreneurship, I 00:19:53.59\00:19:54.72 definitely think that that's 00:19:54.72\00:19:55.86 something that our dad just 00:19:55.86\00:19:58.26 kind of, not even purposely, 00:19:58.26\00:20:00.80 just instilled in us, kind of 00:20:00.80\00:20:02.36 just over the years we've seen 00:20:02.36\00:20:04.10 him try so many different 00:20:04.10\00:20:06.20 business ideas and, you know, 00:20:06.20\00:20:09.54 every way to, like, you know, 00:20:09.54\00:20:12.94 just try and put food on the 00:20:12.94\00:20:15.01 table type thing, so I think 00:20:15.01\00:20:18.15 over the years we all just 00:20:18.15\00:20:19.91 learned that, you know, you 00:20:19.91\00:20:21.85 can make your money the way 00:20:21.85\00:20:23.25 you want to make your money 00:20:23.25\00:20:25.25 and it doesn't have to be, 00:20:25.25\00:20:27.36 like, you know, the same way 00:20:27.36\00:20:29.39 everybody else does it. 00:20:29.39\00:20:31.36 >> Nobody being able to tell 00:20:31.36\00:20:32.26 you what to do. 00:20:32.26\00:20:33.80 Just being able to do what you 00:20:33.80\00:20:35.66 want when you want and... 00:20:35.66\00:20:37.70 and just, yeah, true freedom 00:20:39.60\00:20:42.30 is being able to move on 00:20:42.30\00:20:45.47 your own clock. 00:20:45.47\00:20:46.81 I would say a big part of 00:20:47.68\00:20:50.68 their confidence is that they 00:20:50.68\00:20:52.35 have an extreme belief in 00:20:52.35\00:20:55.62 reliance on God, you know? 00:20:55.62\00:20:59.09 And their beliefs are a large 00:20:59.09\00:21:05.03 part of their identity and I 00:21:05.03\00:21:09.06 believe that has an effect on 00:21:09.06\00:21:12.03 the way someone will think and 00:21:12.03\00:21:13.77 navigate the world. 00:21:13.77\00:21:15.74 You know, you're backed up by 00:21:15.74\00:21:17.67 the Big Guy upstairs, 00:21:17.67\00:21:19.21 you know? (laughs) 00:21:19.21\00:21:21.54 Like together their 00:21:22.74\00:21:24.01 relationship is so strong 00:21:24.01\00:21:25.91 'cause they, like-- they both 00:21:25.91\00:21:28.15 love God more than they love 00:21:28.15\00:21:30.32 each other and then it 00:21:30.32\00:21:31.72 strengthens their love for 00:21:31.72\00:21:33.29 each other that also, 00:21:33.29\00:21:34.82 you know? 00:21:34.82\00:21:36.09 So I would say, yeah, 00:21:39.43\00:21:41.36 that's another thing. 00:21:41.36\00:21:42.76 ¤¤ 00:21:46.50\00:21:55.24 ¤Take my hand 00:21:55.24\00:21:59.88 ¤follow me and stand 00:21:59.88\00:22:05.12 ¤Where you are weak 00:22:05.12\00:22:09.42 ¤I am strong 00:22:09.42\00:22:14.00 ¤So trust in Me 00:22:14.00\00:22:17.67 ¤and give me all your heart 00:22:17.67\00:22:21.80 ¤Nothing, nothing, nothing 00:22:21.80\00:22:23.17 ¤nothing can 00:22:23.17\00:22:25.27 ¤ever tear us apart 00:22:25.27\00:22:28.68 ¤So trust in Me 00:22:28.68\00:22:32.41 ¤and give me all your heart 00:22:32.41\00:22:36.45 ¤Nothing can 00:22:36.45\00:22:40.06 ¤ever tear us apart 00:22:40.06\00:22:44.23 ¤So I promise to 00:22:45.73\00:22:49.56 ¤To take care of you 00:22:49.56\00:22:53.67 ¤I promise to 00:22:53.67\00:22:57.44 ¤To love you true 00:22:57.44\00:23:01.04 ¤Hey, yes 00:23:01.04\00:23:05.05 ¤Why is it so hard 00:23:07.72\00:23:11.25 ¤to get through to you 00:23:11.25\00:23:15.49 ¤My nail-pierced hands 00:23:15.49\00:23:20.50 ¤show My love for you 00:23:20.50\00:23:25.43 ¤So why is it so hard 00:23:25.43\00:23:29.50 ¤to get through to you 00:23:29.50\00:23:34.01 ¤My nail-pierced hands 00:23:34.01\00:23:38.21 ¤show My love for you 00:23:38.21\00:23:43.32 ¤I promise to 00:23:44.92\00:23:48.72 ¤To take care of you 00:23:48.72\00:23:52.59 ¤I promise to 00:23:52.59\00:23:56.33 ¤To love you true 00:23:56.33\00:23:59.80 ¤I promise to 00:23:59.80\00:24:03.81 ¤To take care of you 00:24:03.81\00:24:07.58 ¤I promise to 00:24:07.58\00:24:11.35 ¤To love you true 00:24:11.35\00:24:14.58 ¤I spread my hands 00:24:16.72\00:24:18.09 ¤and died for you 00:24:18.09\00:24:21.06 ¤And loving' you is all 00:24:21.06\00:24:22.72 ¤I'd rather do, yeah 00:24:22.72\00:24:24.86 ¤So don't break My heart 00:24:24.86\00:24:26.09 ¤and turn away from Me 00:24:26.09\00:24:28.23 ¤Oh, no 00:24:28.23\00:24:30.50 ¤So in your darkest moment 00:24:30.50\00:24:32.23 ¤I'll be there with you 00:24:32.23\00:24:34.37 ¤So put the world aside 00:24:34.37\00:24:35.80 ¤there's much for you to do 00:24:35.80\00:24:38.01 ¤Finally, I will always 00:24:38.01\00:24:40.08 ¤be your guide 00:24:40.08\00:24:41.94 ¤I'll stand by your side 00:24:41.94\00:24:44.28 ¤Yeah, yeah, yeah 00:24:44.28\00:24:45.65 ¤Oh, I love you, child 00:24:47.22\00:24:50.99 ¤and I'll take care of you 00:24:50.99\00:24:54.66 ¤and I promise to 00:24:54.66\00:24:57.86 ¤love you true 00:24:57.86\00:25:02.90 ¤Yes 00:25:02.90\00:25:04.87 ¤I love you so 00:25:06.33\00:25:09.37 ¤So I promise to 00:25:10.07\00:25:12.34 ¤love you true 00:25:12.34\00:25:15.24 ¤I promise to 00:25:15.24\00:25:19.91 ¤take care of you 00:25:19.91\00:25:24.69 ¤I promise to 00:25:24.69\00:25:30.19 ¤take care of you 00:25:30.19\00:25:39.40 >> So that song, thank you for 00:25:42.44\00:25:44.41 singing that, Norwill, and 00:25:44.41\00:25:46.91 those words, you wrote 00:25:46.91\00:25:48.08 that song. 00:25:48.08\00:25:49.21 So what does it mean to you, 00:25:49.21\00:25:50.68 that song, and how does it 00:25:50.68\00:25:51.81 give you hope? 00:25:51.81\00:25:53.38 >> In 1988 when I was here and 00:25:53.38\00:25:54.95 I was struggling and I was 00:25:54.95\00:25:56.15 asking God, "What am I doing" 00:25:56.15\00:25:57.72 "here? I don't wanna be here." 00:25:57.72\00:25:59.12 And He kept saying, 00:25:59.12\00:26:01.32 "Just hang on." 00:26:01.32\00:26:03.56 "I have plans for you." 00:26:03.56\00:26:05.49 It was those promises that I 00:26:05.49\00:26:07.36 rest on and it gave me the 00:26:07.36\00:26:10.03 encouragement to write 00:26:10.03\00:26:11.30 that song. 00:26:11.30\00:26:12.73 >> That's beautiful. 00:26:12.73\00:26:14.80 So God was talking to you 00:26:14.80\00:26:15.97 personally. 00:26:15.97\00:26:17.14 [Norwill] Mm-hmm, always. 00:26:17.14\00:26:18.64 >> So we've come to the end of 00:26:18.64\00:26:20.21 our time, sorry about that, 00:26:20.21\00:26:21.71 but we have-- I think it's 00:26:21.71\00:26:23.21 time to end. 00:26:23.21\00:26:24.68 >> Mm-hmm, thank you so much 00:26:24.68\00:26:25.98 for spending time with us, 00:26:25.98\00:26:27.45 it was wonderful having you 00:26:27.45\00:26:28.95 on our show. 00:26:28.95\00:26:30.62 >> We are so blessed to have 00:26:30.62\00:26:32.12 you, thank you so much. 00:26:32.12\00:26:33.72 >> It has been a pleasure. 00:26:33.72\00:26:35.62 >> Hollace, I wonder if I 00:26:35.62\00:26:36.93 could ask you to pray for us. 00:26:36.93\00:26:39.03 >> Certainly. 00:26:39.03\00:26:40.66 Dear Father in heaven, 00:26:41.83\00:26:43.20 we thank you so much for Your 00:26:43.20\00:26:44.63 love and for Your faithfulness 00:26:44.63\00:26:46.60 towards us. 00:26:46.60\00:26:48.04 We also thank You for the 00:26:48.04\00:26:49.34 challenges that You allow 00:26:49.34\00:26:51.54 to come into our lives. 00:26:51.54\00:26:53.74 And we also thank You for the 00:26:53.74\00:26:55.91 strength that You give us 00:26:55.91\00:26:57.61 to push through and 00:26:57.61\00:26:59.05 to overcome them. 00:26:59.05\00:27:01.75 Thank You for Mike and René 00:27:01.75\00:27:04.39 and for their ministry and we 00:27:04.39\00:27:06.62 pray that all that listen and 00:27:06.62\00:27:10.66 hear will be blessed. 00:27:10.66\00:27:13.80 Thank You for continuing to 00:27:15.16\00:27:16.97 direct our path, in Jesus' 00:27:16.97\00:27:19.07 name we pray, amen. 00:27:19.07\00:27:20.44 [All] Amen. 00:27:20.44\00:27:21.94 >> Friends, we have 00:27:23.30\00:27:24.44 experienced such a wonderful 00:27:24.44\00:27:26.34 time getting to know and being 00:27:26.34\00:27:27.94 blessed by the music of 00:27:27.94\00:27:29.58 Norwill and Hollace. 00:27:29.58\00:27:31.61 And our free offer for you 00:27:31.61\00:27:33.48 today is a CD called, 00:27:33.48\00:27:35.52 This Song of Worship, 00:27:35.52\00:27:37.99 featuring their inspirational 00:27:37.99\00:27:39.69 music. 00:27:39.69\00:27:40.69 >> To request today's offer, 00:27:41.72\00:27:43.22 just log onto 00:27:43.22\00:27:44.69 www.itiswrittencanada.ca. 00:27:44.69\00:27:48.60 >> We want you to get to know 00:27:53.10\00:27:55.34 the Lord as your personal 00:27:55.34\00:27:56.87 friend through reading the 00:27:56.87\00:27:58.21 Bible so that you can 00:27:58.21\00:28:00.51 experience the truth that is 00:28:00.51\00:28:01.91 found in the words of Jesus 00:28:01.91\00:28:03.38 when He said, "It is written," 00:28:03.38\00:28:05.88 "man shall not live by bread" 00:28:05.88\00:28:07.48 "alone, but by every word" 00:28:07.48\00:28:09.45 "that proceeds out of the" 00:28:09.45\00:28:11.02 "mouth of God." 00:28:11.02\00:28:13.02 >> I remember once I was going 00:28:15.89\00:28:18.83 through a valley and I was 00:28:18.83\00:28:21.90 coming home from work and 00:28:21.90\00:28:23.67 sitting in the car and I was 00:28:23.67\00:28:25.07 praying and talking to God. 00:28:25.07\00:28:27.04 About five minutes after 00:28:27.04\00:28:28.27 I got home, I got a call 00:28:28.27\00:28:29.34 from Hollace. 00:28:29.34\00:28:30.37 She said, "Hey, friend." 00:28:30.37\00:28:31.87 "I left you something on" 00:28:31.87\00:28:32.84 "your patio." 00:28:32.84\00:28:34.54 I went and I slid the door 00:28:34.54\00:28:35.84 open and there was a big box 00:28:35.84\00:28:37.58 on my patio. 00:28:37.58\00:28:39.48 And in this box it had 00:28:39.48\00:28:41.88 everything I needed plus more. 00:28:41.88\00:28:45.22 And I asked myself, 00:28:45.22\00:28:47.92 "How did she know?" 00:28:47.92\00:28:49.62 "I didn't tell her." 00:28:49.62\00:28:51.53 But that's the kind of person 00:28:51.53\00:28:53.73 Hollace is. 00:28:53.73\00:28:55.13 She came through for me 00:28:55.13\00:28:56.80 and that's the kind of 00:28:56.80\00:28:57.93 friendship we have. 00:28:57.93\00:28:59.27