>> Hello and thank you
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for joining us on
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It Is Written Canada.
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Our guest today was once a shy
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young person who resisted the
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call of God upon her life.
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But today Charlee Blabey is a
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chaplain and a Bible teacher
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at a Christian high school,
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Kingsway College in
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Oshawa, Ontario.
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>> Charlee, thank you so much
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for joining us today.
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We are really looking forward
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to hearing your story.
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>> Well, thank you both so
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much for having me on
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It Is Written today.
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>> So let's go back to
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your beginnings.
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Tell us about your childhood
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and your siblings and
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your parents.
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>> Alright.
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I was born in Kingston,
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Ontario, that is about two and
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a half hours east of here.
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When I was born there were
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some complications with the
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pregnancy towards the end and
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as a result they had to rush
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me down to the NICU.
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And so they came to my dad,
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my mom, due to the drugs, she
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was fairly out of it so they
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came to my dad and they said,
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"We need a name for the baby."
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And so he, without much
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thought, said, "Charlie,"
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"her name will be Charlie."
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And the reason being, when he
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was fifteen years old his
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father had passed away and his
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father's name was Charles or
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"Charlie" as everybody
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called him.
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So he had always decided,
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"I will call my firstborn," he
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was thinking "son, Charlie."
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And so the spelling of the
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name was changed when my mom
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came to, it was made more
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feminine by adding two e's
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instead of an "ie" and from
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that point on I've always
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been "Charlee."
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>> That's super cool 'cause I
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was told that you're,
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you know, I'm gonna meet this
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chaplain, Charlie, so I'm
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expecting a guy and then I met
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you and I thought,
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"That was great,"
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"that's a great name for"
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"a girl."
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>> Yes, it's grown on me,
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you know.
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It's given some people grief
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in, you know, when I worked in
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the nursing home, they-- there
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were some residents that, you
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know, were bound, bent, and
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determined that this had to be
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a male's name and only a
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male's name.
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When I went to high school,
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they put me in the boy's dorm
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originally, as well, and so
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these were all, you know,
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clerical errors that are
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quickly fixed later on.
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I was the oldest of four.
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So there was myself then my
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brother, Michael, then Evan
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and then a younger sister,
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Jaime and we all grew up out
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in the country, we spent a lot
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of time playing in the woods,
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playing with each other.
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My mom, she was raised an
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Adventist, but in her 20's she
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walked away from God, walked
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away from the religion and it
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was during this time that she
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met my dad.
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My dad had also been raised in
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the United Church, but when
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his father had passed away,
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she had walked away from
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Christianity, period.
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Actually dabbled more with
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Spiritualism as result, as a
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means to, I think, to try to
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reconnect with her husband.
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[René] Mm-hmm.
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And so when my dad and my mom
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met, neither of them were
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attending church, obviously,
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but my mom, when she became
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pregnant with me, decided that
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she wanted to reconnect with
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God because now she was
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responsible for another person
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and so she felt like that was
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her obligation and so she
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started re-attending church.
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My dad, though, he still
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wanted nothing to do.
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He said, you know,
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"If this is what you want,"
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"then you do you."
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And so she would go and
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occasionally he would join
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her, but he was still very
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much into the drinking and
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partying scene.
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Several years passed.
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By now I was about two and a
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half, three years old when
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they came back from a wedding
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one evening and when he
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returned he was covered in
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blood from having been in a
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fight and he'd been drinking
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very heavy which he did fairly
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regularly and he woke up the
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next morning, he was laying on
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the floor, he was covered in,
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you know, dried blood and his
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own vomit at this time and
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myself and my brother,
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we were crying,
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thinking that he was dead.
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So when he woke up and came
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to, he determined at that
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point that that was not the
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life that he wanted to live
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and so he walked away
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from drinking.
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He didn't-- he slowly began at
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that point to go to church,
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but it wasn't until I was
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about nine after we attended
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the Net '96 series with Mark
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Finley that both myself and my
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dad decided that we would be
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baptized and so we were
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in March 1st of 1997.
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>> That's very special...
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>> It was.
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>> ...to be baptized with
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your dad.
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>> And how old were you at the
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time then, Charlee?
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>> So I was nine years old
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when I was baptized.
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[René] OK, when you were
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baptized, OK.
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So, Charlee, I believe your
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mother and your grandmother
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were real women of prayer,
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real prayer warriors.
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Can you tell us how they
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influenced your life?
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>> For sure.
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The biggest imprint, I would
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say, on my life was a moment
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with my grandmother, one that
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she probably was unaware of in
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that there had been a conflict
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of sorts that happened
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downstairs.
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At the time, my grandma would
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have probably been going into
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the early stages of what we
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later would learn was
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Alzheimer's.
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And so she was forgetting a
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lot of things and this made
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people upset.
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And so something had gone down
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and there was a lot of yelling
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and I remember going upstairs
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just to see
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if she was OK.
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And I found her, as I walked
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to the top of the stairs,
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she was kneeling
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by her bed, praying.
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And that just always really
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stuck with me that, you know,
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despite whatever anger or hurt
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she was feeling, that she
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would turn to God in prayer
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at that moment.
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My mom, to this day, she is
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still very much a woman of
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prayer as well.
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She currently runs a
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greenhouse every spring and
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into the summer and she
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absolutely loves meeting with
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the customers and talking to
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them and hearing their
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stories, but more so, she likes
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to find out how she can
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pray for them.
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And so she has lists upon
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lists where she will go every
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morning, she has what's known
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as her prayer room and she
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will, you know, spend her
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first hour or so praying for
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all these individuals that she
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collects and prays for.
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And so knowing how much prayer
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has impacted their lives,
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it can't help but impact
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mine as well.
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>> And there was a time when
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your mother really
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needed prayer.
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>> Yes, indeed.
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So it was December of 1996,
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right after my dad and I had
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decided to be baptized
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actually, and at the church,
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the church decided that we
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were going to rent a rink and
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we were going to go
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ice skating.
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And so a lot of the younger
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families came out and we were
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all, you know, laced up and
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skating on the rink.
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And there was one young guy
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that, you know, he worked out
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a lot, he had played hockey
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all the time and he decided
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for whatever reason that he
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would take the net and put it
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towards centre ice and so
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then he skated back and he
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was shooting towards centre
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ice, the problem being,
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of course, that everybody else
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is skating behind him.
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And so I remember I was
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skating over on the side and I
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looked and I saw a group of
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people all huddled.
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And I remember thinking to
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myself, "Oh, there's some"
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"sort of a weird group hug or"
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"something's going on."
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So I skated over and
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discovered my mom lying in a
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heap on the ice.
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What had happened was she had
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been skating with my younger
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sister, who was about four at
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the time, and so she was bent
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over top of my sister, helping
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her skate, when the young man
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had shot the puck, missed the
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net and the puck had hit her
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just above the temple.
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And so, of course, she was
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rushed to the hospital right
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away and when she arrived
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there, number one, they said
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had it been just a little bit
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lower she would have been
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killed instantly.
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But as a result, they said,
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you know, "You're more than"
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"likely going to suffer from"
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"seizure or a number of"
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"different things that could"
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"happen as a result."
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She was very sick.
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She spent a while in hospital
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and was finally allowed
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to go home.
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And there were certainly a lot
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of prayers, both my
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grandparents, her parents,
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were both individuals that
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prayed for everybody.
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And as a result of this,
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she was healed.
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To this day she does suffer
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some dizzy spells, but
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everything that they told her
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could potentially and would
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more than likely happen has
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not and so we're just very
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thankful to God for that,
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you know, His leading through
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that situation.
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And so as a result, she was
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able to attend, you know,
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when my dad and I were both
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baptized in March.
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[Mike] Wow.
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>> Really answered everyone's
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prayers 'cause there was
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probably, like you said, a lot
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of people praying for her.
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>> Yes.
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>> And God pulled through
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with another-- with a miracle!
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>> Yes.
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>> I was a miracle, wow.
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>> So this is a beautiful story
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and it's really all about
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Jesus, so we're gonna pause
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for a moment and listen to
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Miranda and Megan and Nick and
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Ryan singing a song,
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Fairest Lord Jesus.
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[gentle guitar music]
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¤Fairest Lord Jesus
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¤ruler of all nature
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¤Oh thou of God
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¤and man the Son
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¤Thee will I cherish
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¤Thee will I honour
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¤Thou art my glory
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¤joy, and crown
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¤Fair are the meadows
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¤fairer still the woodlands
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¤robed in the blooming
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¤garb of spring
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¤Jesus is fairer
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¤Jesus is purer
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¤Who makes the woeful
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¤heart to sing
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¤Beautiful Saviour
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¤Lord of the nations
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¤Son of God and Son of Man
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¤Glory and honour
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¤praise, adoration
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¤now and forever
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¤forevermore be thine
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¤now and forevermore
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¤be thine
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[gentle guitar music continues]
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>> Friends, it really is all
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about Jesus.
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Those words, "Fairest Lord"
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"Jesus, Ruler of all nature,"
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"Lord of all the nations,"
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"Son of God and Son of Man."
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We've been talking to Charlee
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Blabey, a chaplain and a Bible
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teacher at a Christian
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high school, Kingsway College,
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in Oshawa, Ontario.
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And she's been sharing with us
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how, through miracles and
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answers to prayer, God was
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influencing her life.
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So, Charlee, we want you to
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continue, but not just-- I
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know that God worked miracles
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in your mother's life and in
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yours, what about in your
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father's life?
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>> Alright.
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Well, both my parents were
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hard-working.
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My mom, she stayed home to
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raise us and my dad, he was a
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work-aholic of which I would,
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you know, definitely I
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identify with.
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[Mike] You inherited...
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>> Yes, definitely.
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But when I was about fifteen
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years old, Dad started to slow
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down a bit.
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He was constantly in the
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bathroom, he was having a lot
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of problems and when he would
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go to see the doctor, she
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would tell him it was nothing.
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And this went on for
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several months.
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Finally in the spring, she
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said, "OK, I'll send you for"
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"some testing."
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And when he went they
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discovered that he was full of
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cancer in his colon.
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And when they looked further
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and they met with him, they
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said, "You have stage 4 colon"
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"cancer," and he was given six
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months to live.
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So they said, "Do you wanna"
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"do radiation, chemo, we're"
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"gonna do surgery, but we"
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"need to act on this quickly"
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"because you're full-blown"
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"cancer."
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And Dad said, "No, I don't"
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"want the radiation, I don't"
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"want the chemo, we'll do the"
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"surgery and then from there,"
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"what happens, happens."
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The weekend before the
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surgery, there was a couple
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that had come to the church
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and their whole talk was on
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prayer and the way that prayer
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really can change things and
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the way the God really does
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work through prayer.
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And so as they were talking,
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they heard about my dad's
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situation and they called him
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forward and they said,
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"We wanna pray for you."
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And so everybody came and they
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all prayed over him,
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laid hands on him and
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prayed over him.
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So when he went in for the
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surgery later that week, they
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opened him up and they were
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astounded at what they found.
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So when they met with Dad
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after, he said, "Give it to"
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"me straight, Doc."
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"I wanna know," you know,
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"were you able to get it all?"
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And he said, "You know, Ted,"
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"we opened you up and the"
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"cancer that had spread"
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"through the walls of the"
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"colon was all neatly wrapped"
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"in a ball and we were able"
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"to remove all of it."
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They had to remove part of his
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colon as well, but-- just to
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be safe, but they were able to
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take it all and he said, you
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know, he said, "I don't"
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"believe in anything, but,"
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he said, "Ted, whatever you"
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"believe in, it's working."
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"So keep believing in it."
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[Mike] Oh, praise God.
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>> Every time he goes back for
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checkups with this surgeon,
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the surgeon always says,
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"You're my miracle patient."
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Just because of the impact of,
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you know, just finding this
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cancer that had spread,
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just being wrapped in that
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little ball.
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>> Yeah, God healed your dad.
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>> Indeed, yeah.
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>> And what a powerful
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witness, too, to the doctors,
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you know, when they opened him
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up and it went from so much to
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basically nothing, right,
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comparatively, so...
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So, Charlee, God really did
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perform beautiful miracles for
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your mom and for your dad.
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So did this change your
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attitude towards God?
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>> You would think that
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it would.
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When my mom was healed,
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obviously, yes, I was at a
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place where I was preaching to
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the trees, writing sermons,
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preaching to dolls, whatever.
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I never wanted to be a pastor,
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but I enjoyed the Bible.
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By the time I reached my
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teenage years and my dad,
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he went through his surgery,
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I was angry with God.
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Despite all of it, I was angry
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with God, I wanted nothing to
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do with Him for a good portion
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as well.
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And I went away to high school
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and it was through meeting a
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friend, actually, that was
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very devout, very-- God was
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everything to her, that I
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slowly started to
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come back to Him.
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>> So where did the ministry
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come in for you?
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'Cause you eventually became
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a minister.
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>> Yes, it was not something I
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wanted to get into, but when I
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was nineteen years old, I had
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heard a sermon preached by a
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pastor, Pastor David
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Asscherick from the institute
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known as ARISE and he was
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talking about door-to-door
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ministry, so going
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door-to-door, praying with
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people, offering Bible studies
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and I decided that that was
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something that maybe I could
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do, I mean, I didn't
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necessarily wanna talk to
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people, but I wanted to do
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something.
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And so myself and a number of
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the youth from the church, we
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decided that we would do this
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one summer so we would go
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door-to-door on Sabbath
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afternoons.
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And so it started with those
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little things and then when I
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went away to university, I had
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originally signed up to take
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chemistry and just something
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didn't feel right.
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And I hate to attribute
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something to a feeling, but it
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just-- something wasn't
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sitting well.
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And so one Friday night
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I spent a lot of time just
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praying and saying, "OK, God,"
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"I'm ready to surrender to"
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"whatever You have."
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"What should I do?"
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"Where do You want"
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"my life to go?"
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And the answer kept coming
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back, "You need to take"
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"religious studies, you need"
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"to take religious studies."
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And I was arguing with God,
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"I do not want to be a"
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pastor, I do not wanna"
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"do that."
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And so I switched my major and
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I absolutely loved what I was
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studying, I loved what I was
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learning, the problem was,
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though, that at the time I was
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working around 40 hours at
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Subway down the road to pay
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for school and I was trying to
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go to school full time.
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So by the end of the year,
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I said to God, "If this is"
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"something that I'm to"
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"continue doing, I need a"
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"different job."
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"I need a job where I can"
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"perhaps study as well."
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And so that's when I really
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met Dean Shannon as we called
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her, out at the university.
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She approached me one day and
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she said, "Charlee, I have a"
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"job working desk that,"
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"you know, I would love to"
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"give to you if you'd be"
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"willing to take it for next"
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"school year."
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It wasn't until a couple years
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later that I found out that
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she admitted, she said,
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"I never did that."
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"I never just offered people"
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"those jobs."
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"They had to apply."
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She's like, "Something just"
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"spoke to me."
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And she actually, she passed
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away last year, a wonderful
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woman and very powerful in her
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prayer life as well.
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And so it was just interesting
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to see how God was using these
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different people to begin to
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point me in the direction that
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He wanted me to go.
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>> So you really didn't wanna
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go into the ministry.
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[Charlee] No.
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>> God provided a door and
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opened that door for you.
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>> Yes, yes.
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>> So tell us, how did you
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meet your husband, Eric?
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>> Alright.
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So it was actually through the
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exact same lady.
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It was my third year of
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university and she called me
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into her office and she said,
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"I have a nephew"
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"that I really think that you"
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"should meet," and I said,
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"I'm not interested,"
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"but thank you so much."
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So about a week went by and
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she called me back in and she
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said, "You know, I have a"
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"nephew and I really think"
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"that you should meet him."
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And again, I said, "I'm not"
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"interested, but thank you."
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And she said, "Let me show"
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"you some pictures," and
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so she showed me some pictures
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and I said,
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"Thank you, but I'm gonna go."
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And so again, she called me
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back, it was about a week
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later and she said, "I have"
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"a nephew, why don't you just"
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"add him on Facebook."
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Facebook was fairly new.
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And so I did and we began to
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talk and I noticed that there
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was something very different
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about him, he was very--
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His outlook on God,
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his outlook on life was very
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positive and very refreshing.
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And so, I mean, what can I
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say, one thing led to another
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and we met and, you know,
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here we are.
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[Mike] So you got married, you
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had children then ministry was
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completely off the table now.
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[Charlee] I figured so, yes.
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I had worked at a nursing home
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for a couple years after we
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first got married, but now
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we'd moved to Ontario, I'd had
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my first child and I had
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basically told God,
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"OK, I get it."
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"You just wanted me to do"
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"that and now I'm done."
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"I can 'retire, '" so to speak.
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"I'll do something different."
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And then I began receiving
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phone calls asking me if I
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would preach at different
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churches on Sabbath and so
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every Sabbath we would visit a
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different church and
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I would speak.
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And again, during that time I
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was praying and saying,
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"OK, God, what more do"
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"You want me to do?"
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"What more can I do?"
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Again, thinking outside of the
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ministry spectrum.
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And so I started the
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greenhouse that my parents now
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own and operate as a means to
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do two things, number one:
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reach the community because
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it's been a great testament
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to, you know, the Sabbath and
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has opened up a lot of doors
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for talking with people about
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prayer and about God.
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>> So just-- you're open
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there, when you opened it up
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you said you're gonna open six
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days a week, but on Saturday,
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which tends to be, for a
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greenhouse, a very busy day,
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the busiest day and you're
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saying, we're not gonna open.
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And you guys kept it going.
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>> We did, yeah.
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>> Wow.
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>> It was certainly difficult
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that first Sabbath watching
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cars come in and then Sunday
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came and absolutely nobody
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was there.
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And so, you know, watching
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just the way that God provided
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enough just to keep it going
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year after year was really
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neat to see.
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>> So now you're in this
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greenhouse ministry, you're
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doing-- you're running a
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greenhouse now and so you're
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thinking, "OK, that's it."
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"No ministry, that door's"
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"closed," but...
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>> But I received a call
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from the pastor in Belleville
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at the time asking if I would
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work as a Bible worker
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for them.
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And so it was a one-year
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contract and I did that and at
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the end of the year, I
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remember leaving, it was
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February and by this time I'd
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had my second child and I
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said, you know, "OK," again,
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"God, I don't know what the"
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"next step is for my life,"
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"but I leave it in Your hands"
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"entirely."
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And a month later I was called
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by the Ontario Conference and
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asked if I would pastor the
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church at Kendalwood in Whitby
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and so I went there for a year
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and a half and now here
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I'm at Kingsway.
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So it's been really cool to
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see how God has led and worked
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in all these different areas
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to bring me to this point.
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>> Wow!
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And so you're really active
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in ministry.
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How does that affect
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your family?
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How does it affect Eric?
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>> Honestly, I couldn't do
00:24:16.08\00:24:17.45
anything without Eric.
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The girls--
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[Mike] So he's a
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heavy-duty mechanic.
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[Charlee] He is a heavy-duty
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mechanic, yes.
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[Mike] Is he an up-front person
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with you, he's preaching
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with you?
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>> Oh, absolutely not, no.
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[all laugh]
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>> No, Eric is the type of
00:24:28.90\00:24:29.93
guy that, he says that he
00:24:29.93\00:24:31.23
likes to serve God from
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behind the scenes.
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So he prefers to-- he'll fix
00:24:33.77\00:24:35.57
someone's car or he will watch
00:24:35.57\00:24:38.04
the kids, but that's-- he's
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content and he's happy doing
00:24:40.81\00:24:42.34
that which, he, like I said,
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I couldn't do anything,
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especially working at
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Kingsway, it's a very busy
00:24:47.12\00:24:48.68
environment and so knowing
00:24:48.68\00:24:51.09
that he's there and he's very
00:24:51.09\00:24:52.59
active in the sense that he's
00:24:52.59\00:24:54.59
supportive in whatever way
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he can be.
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>> You know, the greatest
00:24:58.56\00:24:59.86
miracle of all is to see your
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life and the way God worked in
00:25:02.53\00:25:04.30
your life to see a life that
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is changed, you know, by the
00:25:06.20\00:25:08.07
work of Jesus and...beautiful.
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Thank you very much for
00:25:10.74\00:25:11.97
sharing that with us.
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And I wonder, as we close off,
00:25:13.07\00:25:14.94
if you could close with a word
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of prayer for us?
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>> Absolutely.
00:25:17.45\00:25:18.68
Father in heaven, I just wanna
00:25:20.98\00:25:22.18
thank You for this time that
00:25:22.18\00:25:23.69
we were able to take to
00:25:23.69\00:25:25.25
reflect back over the years
00:25:25.25\00:25:27.39
and, Lord, just to see, number
00:25:27.39\00:25:28.86
one, the influence that prayer
00:25:28.86\00:25:32.79
has on our lives, the way that
00:25:32.79\00:25:34.83
it can heal, the way that You
00:25:34.83\00:25:36.16
can work through it to
00:25:36.16\00:25:37.30
reach people.
00:25:37.30\00:25:38.97
And, Lord, I just thank You
00:25:38.97\00:25:40.30
also for the way that You lead
00:25:40.30\00:25:41.50
and guide in each and every
00:25:41.50\00:25:42.90
one of our lives, to bring us
00:25:42.90\00:25:44.01
to the place where You can
00:25:44.01\00:25:46.68
work through us.
00:25:46.68\00:25:48.38
And so, Lord, I just wanna
00:25:48.38\00:25:49.58
pray that You would continue
00:25:49.58\00:25:50.81
to be with Mike and René as
00:25:50.81\00:25:54.48
they continue to lead in this
00:25:54.48\00:25:55.85
ministry and just be with all
00:25:55.85\00:25:58.05
of the viewers, Lord, that are
00:25:58.05\00:26:00.16
watching, Lord, work and lead
00:26:00.16\00:26:01.79
and guide in their lives,
00:26:01.79\00:26:02.86
in a mighty and powerful way,
00:26:02.86\00:26:04.23
make Yourself known.
00:26:04.23\00:26:05.59
I pray and I ask this in Your
00:26:05.59\00:26:06.66
name, amen.
00:26:06.66\00:26:07.66
>> Amen.
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Thank you very much, Charlee.
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Thank you for sharing.
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Your story was so inspirational
00:26:11.43\00:26:13.03
to us and we just thank you
00:26:13.03\00:26:15.90
for coming and sharing.
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