¤¤ 00:00:00.33\00:00:36.30 >> Hello and welcome to 00:00:42.27\00:00:43.51 It Is Written Canada. 00:00:43.51\00:00:45.44 Today we're gonna be talking 00:00:45.44\00:00:46.41 to Lorna Spencer. 00:00:46.41\00:00:48.88 Lorna is a mother, 00:00:48.88\00:00:51.55 a homemaker, a woman of God, 00:00:51.55\00:00:55.02 a woman with many talents 00:00:55.02\00:00:57.29 including writing and she has 00:00:57.29\00:00:59.35 written a book called, 00:00:59.35\00:01:00.56 I'm Still Standing, she's 00:01:00.56\00:01:01.92 telling her personal story. 00:01:01.92\00:01:04.16 And Lorna's with us today and 00:01:04.16\00:01:06.36 I'm looking at your book here, 00:01:06.36\00:01:07.76 Lorna, and it's an amazing 00:01:07.76\00:01:10.70 title, we've heard those words 00:01:10.70\00:01:12.60 before, but what you're 00:01:12.60\00:01:14.34 standing on there is solid 00:01:14.34\00:01:16.47 rock and you're in the midst 00:01:16.47\00:01:17.97 of an ocean. 00:01:17.97\00:01:19.11 So thank you for joining us 00:01:19.11\00:01:20.11 and thank you for being 00:01:20.11\00:01:21.34 prepared to share your story 00:01:21.34\00:01:22.14 with us today. 00:01:22.14\00:01:23.31 >> Thank you for having me. 00:01:23.31\00:01:24.48 It's an honour to be here and 00:01:24.48\00:01:27.68 most importantly, thanks to 00:01:27.68\00:01:29.28 God for this opportunity and 00:01:29.28\00:01:32.32 to you, the host of 00:01:32.32\00:01:33.79 It Is Written Canada, 00:01:33.79\00:01:35.52 it's an honour to be here. 00:01:35.52\00:01:37.69 >> Well, Lorna, tell us about 00:01:37.69\00:01:39.46 yourself, so tell us who is 00:01:39.46\00:01:41.33 Lorna Spencer? 00:01:41.33\00:01:43.80 >> Lorna Spencer is a 00:01:43.80\00:01:45.83 Seventh-day Adventist 00:01:45.83\00:01:47.14 Christian, a woman who has 00:01:47.14\00:01:49.14 found her worth in Jesus 00:01:49.14\00:01:50.81 Christ and as you've said I am 00:01:50.81\00:01:53.07 a mother of two young-adult 00:01:53.07\00:01:54.81 daughters, I am an author of 00:01:54.81\00:01:57.75 the book, I'm Still Standing, 00:01:57.75\00:01:59.85 I'm an inspirational speaker, 00:01:59.85\00:02:02.25 a mental health advocate, 00:02:02.25\00:02:04.15 and an early childhood 00:02:04.15\00:02:05.62 educator by profession. 00:02:05.62\00:02:07.79 >> That's multiple talents. 00:02:07.79\00:02:09.42 >> Yes, very talented. 00:02:09.42\00:02:10.79 >> And lots of 00:02:10.79\00:02:11.86 responsibilities. 00:02:11.86\00:02:12.86 [Lorna] Thank you. 00:02:12.86\00:02:13.93 >> So, Lorna, can you give us 00:02:13.93\00:02:15.86 a synopsis of your book 00:02:15.86\00:02:18.73 that you wrote? 00:02:18.73\00:02:20.67 >> Yes, the book, 00:02:20.67\00:02:22.14 I'm Still Standing, the title 00:02:22.14\00:02:25.27 came after praying and fasting. 00:02:25.27\00:02:29.44 After my pastor, Dr. Maitland, 00:02:29.44\00:02:32.81 and my best friend, Tana, 00:02:32.81\00:02:35.05 continued to bother me about 00:02:35.05\00:02:38.15 writing a book and having a 00:02:38.15\00:02:39.65 story, Dr. Maitland gave the 00:02:39.65\00:02:42.56 title, "I Survived." 00:02:42.56\00:02:45.03 However, that title didn't 00:02:45.03\00:02:46.86 seem quite fitting. 00:02:46.86\00:02:48.56 And so I prayed about it and 00:02:48.56\00:02:51.93 came up with the title, 00:02:51.93\00:02:53.64 I'm Still Standing. 00:02:53.64\00:02:55.34 And I'm Still Standing is a 00:02:55.34\00:02:56.81 story of Lorne Gregory who was 00:02:56.81\00:03:00.18 a new bride and she was on the 00:03:00.18\00:03:03.68 top of the world after 00:03:03.68\00:03:05.38 getting married. 00:03:05.38\00:03:07.12 But just two weeks after 00:03:07.12\00:03:08.58 marriage, her world came 00:03:08.58\00:03:10.29 crashing down. 00:03:10.29\00:03:12.45 The man that she married 00:03:12.45\00:03:14.32 turned out not to be who he 00:03:14.32\00:03:15.86 claimed to be. 00:03:15.86\00:03:17.93 He was living a double life. 00:03:17.93\00:03:21.13 Very maladaptive kind of 00:03:21.13\00:03:24.90 lifestyle, very outlandish 00:03:24.90\00:03:26.63 kind of lifestyle. 00:03:26.63\00:03:28.70 He had multiple women, 00:03:28.70\00:03:30.81 including a child that I 00:03:30.81\00:03:33.14 didn't know about and after 00:03:33.14\00:03:37.11 finding out the details of his 00:03:37.11\00:03:39.55 sordid affairs-- 00:03:39.55\00:03:43.08 He didn't tell me, by the way. 00:03:43.08\00:03:45.09 I had to investigate him to 00:03:45.09\00:03:48.19 dig to the bottom of 00:03:48.19\00:03:49.29 the truth. 00:03:49.29\00:03:51.09 It came to the point where I 00:03:51.09\00:03:53.06 had to make a decision between 00:03:53.06\00:03:54.93 the man that I love 00:03:54.93\00:03:56.53 or loving myself. 00:03:56.53\00:03:58.77 I chose to love myself and so 00:03:58.77\00:04:01.40 I had to end my marriage. 00:04:01.40\00:04:04.51 Along the way there were, 00:04:04.51\00:04:07.14 you know, heartbreak, there 00:04:07.14\00:04:08.78 was a pregnancy that came 00:04:08.78\00:04:11.81 about because of a violation 00:04:11.81\00:04:16.79 from my husband and I was 00:04:16.79\00:04:19.29 pregnant with twins and I 00:04:19.29\00:04:21.56 wasn't excited about being 00:04:21.56\00:04:24.36 pregnant after all, you know, 00:04:24.36\00:04:27.40 how it happened and 00:04:27.40\00:04:31.40 I didn't know if I could love, 00:04:31.40\00:04:33.57 you know, the child, at that 00:04:33.57\00:04:34.94 time I didn't know 00:04:34.94\00:04:36.04 it was twins. 00:04:36.04\00:04:37.64 And so I had to praise God, 00:04:37.64\00:04:40.71 you know, to ask Him to help 00:04:40.71\00:04:42.58 me to accept my situation and 00:04:42.58\00:04:45.71 the fact that I was going to 00:04:45.71\00:04:47.08 be a mother again. 00:04:47.08\00:04:49.25 And so I fell in love with 00:04:49.25\00:04:50.82 these babies, but three months 00:04:50.82\00:04:53.05 after that I had a miscarriage 00:04:53.05\00:04:56.39 and that sent me into the 00:04:56.39\00:04:58.63 abyss of darkness. 00:04:58.63\00:05:00.76 I had given up the will to 00:05:00.76\00:05:02.46 live, I felt as though all 00:05:02.46\00:05:05.73 hope was gone and prayer was 00:05:05.73\00:05:08.94 my weapon. 00:05:08.94\00:05:10.54 Prayer was the key to finding 00:05:10.54\00:05:12.87 my way back to reality. 00:05:12.87\00:05:15.24 And so that's the synopsis of 00:05:15.24\00:05:18.11 I'm Still Standing. 00:05:18.11\00:05:20.02 >> You went through quite a 00:05:20.02\00:05:21.35 lot, I mean this is very, very 00:05:21.35\00:05:24.25 devastating, everything you 00:05:24.25\00:05:25.79 went through. 00:05:25.79\00:05:27.76 The title, I'm Still Standing, 00:05:27.76\00:05:30.19 obviously saying this has not 00:05:30.19\00:05:32.49 destroyed you... 00:05:32.49\00:05:34.00 >> That's right. 00:05:34.00\00:05:35.36 >> At times did it feel 00:05:35.36\00:05:36.53 like that? 00:05:36.53\00:05:37.43 >> Oh, absolutely. 00:05:37.43\00:05:38.80 There were times when I felt 00:05:38.80\00:05:40.77 defeated, I was perplexed, 00:05:40.77\00:05:43.20 I felt as though I was 00:05:43.20\00:05:45.04 destroyed and-- 00:05:45.04\00:05:47.84 because my life was so wrapped 00:05:47.84\00:05:49.68 up and tied up in Jones, 00:05:49.68\00:05:52.85 you know, and wanting to be 00:05:52.85\00:05:54.65 loved and wanting to be happy. 00:05:54.65\00:05:58.05 I, you know, when my world 00:05:58.05\00:06:02.32 fell apart, it hit me hard. 00:06:02.32\00:06:04.86 But the good thing about it is 00:06:04.86\00:06:06.46 that I knew Christ. 00:06:06.46\00:06:08.76 I had a relationship with 00:06:08.76\00:06:10.30 Jesus Christ and although it 00:06:10.30\00:06:13.10 was difficult and challenging 00:06:13.10\00:06:15.57 and overwhelming, I still had 00:06:15.57\00:06:17.74 a glimpse of hope and I prayed 00:06:17.74\00:06:22.38 like Hannah and Rachel 00:06:22.38\00:06:24.68 and Naomi. 00:06:24.68\00:06:26.28 Prayer became my way of life. 00:06:26.28\00:06:29.82 And so although it was hard, 00:06:29.82\00:06:33.76 prayer helped me to live. 00:06:33.76\00:06:36.79 Prayer kept me standing. 00:06:36.79\00:06:39.93 >> You know, Lorna, I read 00:06:39.93\00:06:41.70 your book and there were many 00:06:41.70\00:06:43.97 times that I had to put the 00:06:43.97\00:06:46.33 book down and I'm like, 00:06:46.33\00:06:48.67 "I need to finish this book," 00:06:48.67\00:06:50.11 "but I just can't read" 00:06:50.11\00:06:51.21 "any more." 00:06:51.21\00:06:52.17 >> Oh dear! 00:06:52.17\00:06:53.51 [René] I had to put it down a 00:06:53.51\00:06:54.88 little bit, but the thing that 00:06:54.88\00:06:57.85 really stood out to me was the 00:06:57.85\00:07:00.95 way that you had just 00:07:00.95\00:07:03.32 mentioned now, that you just 00:07:03.32\00:07:05.35 hung onto Jesus right through 00:07:05.35\00:07:07.72 all of this. 00:07:07.72\00:07:09.06 I was like, "This is" 00:07:09.06\00:07:10.79 "incredible, it's such an" 00:07:10.79\00:07:12.53 "inspiration," because you 00:07:12.53\00:07:14.20 did, you prayed and you didn't 00:07:14.20\00:07:16.80 put God aside. 00:07:16.80\00:07:18.20 [Lorna] No. 00:07:18.20\00:07:19.13 >> You-- like, He was... 00:07:19.13\00:07:20.97 He was really your life line. 00:07:20.97\00:07:22.00 [Lorna] My anchor, yes. 00:07:22.00\00:07:23.51 [René] And your anchor, as you 00:07:23.51\00:07:24.84 were going through all of 00:07:24.84\00:07:26.07 this, you know, and I think 00:07:26.07\00:07:27.91 for me, that was very 00:07:27.91\00:07:29.54 encouraging because I would 00:07:29.54\00:07:30.85 read and would like, "How is" 00:07:30.85\00:07:32.68 "she going through this?" 00:07:32.68\00:07:33.92 Like, you know, how can 00:07:33.92\00:07:35.58 someone live a double life and 00:07:35.58\00:07:37.95 be such a good con artist? 00:07:37.95\00:07:39.65 [Lorna] Mmhmm! 00:07:39.65\00:07:40.82 [René] And you were just, you 00:07:40.82\00:07:42.02 know, and then I was like, 00:07:42.02\00:07:43.79 "OK, I need to finish it," 00:07:43.79\00:07:44.93 but I was so angry and so 00:07:44.93\00:07:47.50 upset, you know, but then I 00:07:47.50\00:07:49.76 need to finish it, but the 00:07:49.76\00:07:51.87 thing that was really 00:07:51.87\00:07:53.80 inspirational was that, like 00:07:53.80\00:07:55.24 you said, Jesus was your 00:07:55.24\00:07:57.07 anchor and He helped you to go 00:07:57.07\00:08:00.11 through this and because of 00:08:00.11\00:08:01.51 Him you're still standing. 00:08:01.51\00:08:02.91 >> I am, I am, yes. 00:08:02.91\00:08:04.81 And it's just a testament of 00:08:04.81\00:08:08.68 God's faithfulness. 00:08:08.68\00:08:10.99 My testimony, my story is a 00:08:10.99\00:08:12.65 testament of God's 00:08:12.65\00:08:14.59 faithfulness and although it 00:08:14.59\00:08:18.03 was difficult for me to be 00:08:18.03\00:08:20.10 transparent and put myself out 00:08:20.10\00:08:22.33 there, you know, knowing that 00:08:22.33\00:08:25.03 not everyone will get it 00:08:25.03\00:08:27.04 because I have been 00:08:27.04\00:08:28.77 scrutinized and criticized 00:08:28.77\00:08:32.44 so I would be foolish to think 00:08:32.44\00:08:34.68 that everyone would be 00:08:34.68\00:08:36.01 receptive of my story. 00:08:36.01\00:08:38.65 However, my message is for 00:08:38.65\00:08:42.25 hope because I know what it's 00:08:42.25\00:08:44.99 like to feel hopeless, 00:08:44.99\00:08:46.92 I know what it's like to 00:08:46.92\00:08:48.32 suffer in silence and I want 00:08:48.32\00:08:51.06 people to know that with God 00:08:51.06\00:08:53.86 they can overcome their 00:08:53.86\00:08:56.06 circumstances, only with God. 00:08:56.06\00:08:59.47 And so it's important for them 00:08:59.47\00:09:01.50 to hold on to Christ and, 00:09:01.50\00:09:05.51 you know, don't play church. 00:09:05.51\00:09:08.08 If I was playing church, 00:09:08.08\00:09:10.45 everything that I went 00:09:10.45\00:09:11.58 through, I don't think I would 00:09:11.58\00:09:13.08 still be in the church because 00:09:13.08\00:09:15.85 many people have gone through 00:09:15.85\00:09:18.85 challenging circumstances and 00:09:18.85\00:09:21.52 they become angry at God. 00:09:21.52\00:09:24.66 They turn their back on Him. 00:09:24.66\00:09:27.30 I held onto Him even with a 00:09:27.30\00:09:31.53 more assuring grasp than ever 00:09:31.53\00:09:34.64 before, a stronger grasp 00:09:34.64\00:09:37.14 knowing that Christ was the 00:09:37.14\00:09:39.67 only one who could help me get 00:09:39.67\00:09:42.28 through and come out 00:09:42.28\00:09:44.28 a better person. 00:09:44.28\00:09:46.38 >> So was it difficult to 00:09:46.38\00:09:47.98 share your story? 00:09:47.98\00:09:49.38 Did you find yourself going 00:09:49.38\00:09:50.65 through times of crying and 00:09:50.65\00:09:52.59 emotional-- you know, how did 00:09:52.59\00:09:56.12 you deal with that? Yeah. 00:09:56.12\00:09:57.53 [Lorna] Oh, yes. [laughs] 00:09:57.53\00:09:58.86 It was very difficult. 00:09:58.86\00:10:01.06 Writing I'm Still Standing 00:10:01.06\00:10:03.13 is how I gained victory over 00:10:03.13\00:10:06.50 my brokenness, is how I 00:10:06.50\00:10:08.87 got my healing. 00:10:08.87\00:10:11.57 First I thought that I was 00:10:11.57\00:10:13.41 healed, you know, like six, 00:10:13.41\00:10:15.18 ten months after my life came 00:10:15.18\00:10:18.45 crashing down and I thought I 00:10:18.45\00:10:20.75 had forgiven Jones for the 00:10:20.75\00:10:22.38 things that he had done and 00:10:22.38\00:10:24.42 then when I took the challenge 00:10:24.42\00:10:26.42 to write the book and every 00:10:26.42\00:10:28.46 time, you know, I would sit in 00:10:28.46\00:10:30.93 my chair to pen my thoughts, 00:10:30.93\00:10:34.50 tears would begin to stream 00:10:34.50\00:10:36.90 down my cheeks and I couldn't 00:10:36.90\00:10:39.67 understand what was happening 00:10:39.67\00:10:41.37 at the time because here I am, 00:10:41.37\00:10:44.17 I thought I was OK, you know, 00:10:44.17\00:10:46.37 but I had gotten over my 00:10:46.37\00:10:48.51 bitterness and my anger, 00:10:48.51\00:10:51.38 but here I was, emotional, 00:10:51.38\00:10:54.45 falling apart, beside myself. 00:10:54.45\00:10:57.15 I cried so much to the point 00:10:57.15\00:10:58.72 where I felt as if my brain 00:10:58.72\00:11:01.89 was gonna explode and then 00:11:01.89\00:11:04.69 there were times that I had to 00:11:04.69\00:11:07.13 self-talk, you know, to calm 00:11:07.13\00:11:09.63 myself down and to remind 00:11:09.63\00:11:11.67 myself of the brain condition 00:11:11.67\00:11:14.90 that I have because the more 00:11:14.90\00:11:17.07 emotional I get is the more 00:11:17.07\00:11:20.61 intense the pain in 00:11:20.61\00:11:22.14 my head becomes. 00:11:22.14\00:11:24.71 And so it was quite difficult. 00:11:24.71\00:11:28.32 Even being transparent, 00:11:28.32\00:11:30.62 you know, was hard. 00:11:30.62\00:11:32.49 But I knew that if I wanted to 00:11:32.49\00:11:35.42 help people that I needed to 00:11:35.42\00:11:38.06 be as transparent as I 00:11:38.06\00:11:39.66 could be. 00:11:39.66\00:11:41.70 >> So, Lorna, you trusted this 00:11:41.70\00:11:43.50 man so much. 00:11:43.50\00:11:45.27 You gave him your heart, 00:11:45.27\00:11:46.37 you married him. 00:11:46.37\00:11:48.14 How did it go from trusting 00:11:48.14\00:11:50.44 him to saying, "Wait, I can't" 00:11:50.44\00:11:52.61 "trust this man anymore?" 00:11:52.61\00:11:53.91 What were the kind of steps 00:11:53.91\00:11:55.68 along the way? 00:11:55.68\00:11:56.88 'Cause it didn't just 00:11:56.88\00:11:57.81 happen overnight. 00:11:57.81\00:11:59.31 >> I went from not trusting-- 00:11:59.31\00:12:03.45 from loving Jones to being... 00:12:03.45\00:12:08.66 mistrusting of him based on 00:12:08.66\00:12:11.93 the fact that after getting 00:12:11.93\00:12:14.13 married he did not move into 00:12:14.13\00:12:17.27 our home, 00:12:17.27\00:12:18.30 our matrimonial home. 00:12:18.30\00:12:19.33 [Mike] So he was living 00:12:19.33\00:12:20.07 somewhere else? 00:12:20.07\00:12:20.97 >> He was living 00:12:20.97\00:12:22.10 somewhere else. 00:12:22.10\00:12:23.41 He was sleeping out at least 00:12:23.41\00:12:25.44 three nights per week. 00:12:25.44\00:12:28.48 The only time that I would see 00:12:28.48\00:12:30.01 him was on Saturday. 00:12:30.01\00:12:32.31 He would come on Friday night 00:12:32.31\00:12:34.12 to make himself available to 00:12:34.12\00:12:35.95 go to church on Saturday. 00:12:35.95\00:12:38.82 And then after church we would 00:12:38.82\00:12:41.46 interact, fellowship with my 00:12:41.46\00:12:43.26 friends and worship and have 00:12:43.26\00:12:45.36 lunch together and then 00:12:45.36\00:12:47.56 Saturday evening he'd 00:12:47.56\00:12:48.73 be gone again. 00:12:48.73\00:12:50.97 And it-- things didn't add up 00:12:50.97\00:12:54.00 in my brain. 00:12:54.00\00:12:55.60 There were, you know, things 00:12:55.60\00:12:57.61 replaying and I was very 00:12:57.61\00:12:59.81 troubled, it's my-- 00:12:59.81\00:13:01.34 >> So you asked him questions? 00:13:01.34\00:13:03.01 >> I asked him questions, but 00:13:03.01\00:13:04.21 he was not being forthcoming. 00:13:04.21\00:13:06.41 He was like a log, I could get 00:13:06.41\00:13:08.38 nothing out of him. 00:13:08.38\00:13:10.65 And so I prayed about it. 00:13:10.65\00:13:13.29 I fasted and I asked God-- 00:13:13.29\00:13:15.76 I mean God knew how troubled 00:13:15.76\00:13:17.49 and disturbed that I was and 00:13:17.49\00:13:19.39 that I needed answers. 00:13:19.39\00:13:21.33 I asked God for guidance and 00:13:21.33\00:13:22.76 then it hit me: 00:13:22.76\00:13:25.83 Hire a private investigator. 00:13:25.83\00:13:29.00 And I don't know where I came 00:13:29.00\00:13:30.51 up with that idea and I could 00:13:30.51\00:13:33.24 only say God gave me the idea 00:13:33.24\00:13:35.64 and it was the only way 00:13:35.64\00:13:37.21 for me to get the answers 00:13:37.21\00:13:38.51 that I needed. 00:13:38.51\00:13:40.25 And so he followed Jones for 00:13:40.25\00:13:42.78 four days. 00:13:42.78\00:13:44.85 He followed him at his 00:13:44.85\00:13:47.66 workplace and from his 00:13:47.66\00:13:50.03 workplace to an apartment and 00:13:50.03\00:13:56.16 then finally the final stop 00:13:56.16\00:13:58.40 that Jones made was at another 00:13:58.40\00:14:00.70 apartment where he parked 00:14:00.70\00:14:02.97 underground and came up from 00:14:02.97\00:14:07.91 underground and the only way 00:14:07.91\00:14:10.01 to get into the building, 00:14:10.01\00:14:11.71 you must have access so he 00:14:11.71\00:14:13.42 must have had a fob of some 00:14:13.42\00:14:15.22 sort to unlock the doors. 00:14:15.22\00:14:17.75 And so the pictures and the 00:14:17.75\00:14:21.69 video showed Jones going into 00:14:21.69\00:14:24.09 the elevator, going up to an 00:14:24.09\00:14:25.89 apartment and all of this 00:14:25.89\00:14:28.73 information was being fed to 00:14:28.73\00:14:30.67 me by the private investigator 00:14:30.67\00:14:34.00 and so I realized, "Hmm," 00:14:34.00\00:14:37.71 "something is not right here." 00:14:37.71\00:14:39.74 You know, and so there wasn't 00:14:39.74\00:14:41.68 anything concrete to go to 00:14:41.68\00:14:43.45 Jones with and so I told the 00:14:43.45\00:14:46.72 private investigator to keep 00:14:46.72\00:14:48.42 searching, to keep 00:14:48.42\00:14:49.48 following him. 00:14:49.48\00:14:51.32 And then finally on day four, 00:14:51.32\00:14:54.06 Jones went back to this 00:14:54.06\00:14:55.69 apartment where he walked out 00:14:55.69\00:14:58.19 with a child in his arms and 00:14:58.19\00:15:01.30 from that apartment, which 00:15:01.30\00:15:03.47 happens to be a daycare by the 00:15:03.47\00:15:05.27 way, he picked up his son from 00:15:05.27\00:15:06.94 daycare and now went to the 00:15:06.94\00:15:09.14 second apartment which is 00:15:09.14\00:15:10.91 where he resides with the 00:15:10.91\00:15:13.31 mother of his child. 00:15:13.31\00:15:15.91 So all the times Jones was 00:15:15.91\00:15:18.05 missing from my home during 00:15:18.05\00:15:20.08 the week, he was at home 00:15:20.08\00:15:22.85 with his-- 00:15:22.85\00:15:24.09 >> With another woman. 00:15:24.09\00:15:25.45 >> With another woman and a 00:15:25.45\00:15:26.65 son, yes. 00:15:26.65\00:15:28.89 >> And when you did ask him 00:15:28.89\00:15:30.69 and you started asking 00:15:30.69\00:15:31.99 questions, he said that he had 00:15:31.99\00:15:33.19 another job. 00:15:33.19\00:15:34.56 [Lorna] He said he had-- 00:15:34.56\00:15:35.73 [René] And so he answered 00:15:35.73\00:15:37.03 obviously dishonestly, right? 00:15:37.03\00:15:38.77 [Lorna] Yes, yes. 00:15:38.77\00:15:39.80 >> And so there would be 00:15:39.80\00:15:41.10 another reason why you 00:15:41.10\00:15:42.77 couldn't trust him. 00:15:42.77\00:15:44.41 >> Absolutely, absolutely. 00:15:44.41\00:15:46.64 I mean, Jones, he's always 00:15:46.64\00:15:50.35 been very private and 00:15:50.35\00:15:52.15 protective of his things, but 00:15:52.15\00:15:54.92 when he wasn't, you know, 00:15:54.92\00:15:58.99 around much I find out that he 00:15:58.99\00:16:01.72 was around less after marriage 00:16:01.72\00:16:04.19 than when we were courting. 00:16:04.19\00:16:06.16 And all of those red flags 00:16:06.16\00:16:08.66 just didn't add up and so I 00:16:08.66\00:16:10.57 felt that I needed to 00:16:10.57\00:16:12.77 get answers. 00:16:12.77\00:16:14.67 But the answers that I got 00:16:14.67\00:16:18.04 were shocking. 00:16:18.04\00:16:19.91 I was not prepared to have 00:16:19.91\00:16:22.94 found out the things that I 00:16:22.94\00:16:25.68 had discovered. 00:16:25.68\00:16:27.78 >> So you are in a place where 00:16:27.78\00:16:31.59 it's just like 00:16:31.59\00:16:33.49 pretty much a nightmare. 00:16:33.49\00:16:35.09 [Lorna] Yes. 00:16:35.09\00:16:36.66 >> And you know that you can't 00:16:36.66\00:16:37.83 trust this man. 00:16:37.83\00:16:38.99 You called him "Jones," 00:16:38.99\00:16:40.46 that's not his real name. 00:16:40.46\00:16:41.33 [Lorna] That's right. 00:16:41.33\00:16:42.30 [Mike] It's a pseudonym to 00:16:42.30\00:16:43.20 protect him. 00:16:43.20\00:16:44.17 [Lorna] Yes, yes. 00:16:44.17\00:16:45.37 [Mike] And so he's doing all 00:16:45.37\00:16:47.60 these things. 00:16:47.60\00:16:49.84 Did you get help from 00:16:49.84\00:16:51.11 someone else? 00:16:51.11\00:16:53.64 >> My pastor, Dr. Maitland, 00:16:53.64\00:16:56.98 was very supportive. 00:16:56.98\00:16:59.41 He was the pastor that 00:16:59.41\00:17:02.42 officiated our marriage. 00:17:02.42\00:17:05.49 He counselled us for months. 00:17:05.49\00:17:09.26 All through our counselling, 00:17:09.26\00:17:11.23 I mean, Jones said all the 00:17:11.23\00:17:12.49 right things, I mean, you know, 00:17:12.49\00:17:14.36 he had won everybody over. 00:17:14.36\00:17:17.97 He played his role very well. 00:17:17.97\00:17:21.14 And as I said in the book, 00:17:21.14\00:17:23.61 if he was to win, you know, 00:17:23.61\00:17:25.94 if he had-- 00:17:25.94\00:17:28.11 if he was nominated because of 00:17:28.11\00:17:29.98 his acting skills he would win 00:17:29.98\00:17:33.15 the Oscar, and the Emmy and... 00:17:33.15\00:17:37.42 But Pastor Maitland was there 00:17:37.42\00:17:39.35 to support me and guide me and 00:17:39.35\00:17:44.43 also my best friend who I 00:17:44.43\00:17:46.80 refer to as "Tango" in the 00:17:46.80\00:17:48.63 book, she was very supportive 00:17:48.63\00:17:50.83 as well. 00:17:50.83\00:17:52.23 She carried my pain, 00:17:52.23\00:17:54.50 she carried my burden. 00:17:54.50\00:17:57.84 God is such and awesome God 00:17:57.84\00:18:00.21 because He knew I couldn't 00:18:00.21\00:18:02.51 carry this burden and 00:18:02.51\00:18:04.31 this pain. 00:18:04.31\00:18:05.85 If I had to carry the full 00:18:05.85\00:18:08.38 effect of the pain that was 00:18:08.38\00:18:10.65 inflicted on me, I don't think 00:18:10.65\00:18:13.32 I would be here right now. 00:18:13.32\00:18:15.52 But my best friend carried my 00:18:15.52\00:18:18.43 pain, she felt my pain. 00:18:18.43\00:18:20.83 There were times when at the 00:18:20.83\00:18:22.73 beginning when my world came 00:18:22.73\00:18:25.90 crashing down, I didn't shed a 00:18:25.90\00:18:29.00 tear, I didn't cry. 00:18:29.00\00:18:32.11 But my best friend cried for 00:18:32.11\00:18:34.91 me and that just goes to show 00:18:34.91\00:18:39.68 how God knows best and that He 00:18:39.68\00:18:41.38 works in such awesome ways. 00:18:41.38\00:18:45.02 You know, so I had the support 00:18:45.02\00:18:46.89 of my best friend and 00:18:46.89\00:18:49.09 my pastor. 00:18:49.09\00:18:50.93 My daughters, of course, they 00:18:50.93\00:18:52.43 were supportive, you know, as 00:18:52.43\00:18:54.86 supportive as they could be. 00:18:54.86\00:18:57.73 My mom who was a praying woman 00:18:57.73\00:19:00.34 of God, I knew she was 00:19:00.34\00:19:02.40 praying for me. 00:19:02.40\00:19:03.74 My adopted mom who is my best 00:19:03.74\00:19:05.77 friend's mom is also a prayer 00:19:05.77\00:19:08.21 warrior and I knew that there 00:19:08.21\00:19:11.18 were people who loved me who 00:19:11.18\00:19:13.18 were praying for me, yes. 00:19:13.18\00:19:16.18 >> In the book, I am 00:19:26.03\00:19:27.83 Pastor Moore. 00:19:27.83\00:19:29.26 I am the one who did the 00:19:29.26\00:19:30.80 counselling, pre-marital 00:19:30.80\00:19:32.43 counselling, did the wedding, 00:19:32.43\00:19:35.10 did baptism, did follow-up 00:19:35.10\00:19:38.51 after the wedding, and tried 00:19:38.51\00:19:41.21 to mend what was broken. 00:19:41.21\00:19:43.61 Part of Lorna's transparency 00:19:43.61\00:19:45.31 that strikes me was the 00:19:45.31\00:19:48.18 motivation that she received 00:19:48.18\00:19:50.69 from what was not happening. 00:19:50.69\00:19:53.22 She had married a man who was 00:19:53.22\00:19:55.16 anything but transparent and 00:19:55.16\00:19:57.93 he was hiding everything, 00:19:57.93\00:19:59.93 everything was undercover. 00:19:59.93\00:20:01.86 This man had a mistress who 00:20:01.86\00:20:03.97 had a child for him, 14 months 00:20:03.97\00:20:06.27 old that he was covering up so 00:20:06.27\00:20:09.70 I could see some of that come 00:20:09.70\00:20:11.54 out in Lorna saying, "Mm-mm," 00:20:11.54\00:20:13.78 "I cannot cover up the mess," 00:20:13.78\00:20:18.65 "but I'll be transparent," 00:20:18.65\00:20:20.28 "let the world know who I am" 00:20:20.28\00:20:21.85 "and what's happening to me" 00:20:21.85\00:20:23.69 "so that in order to receive" 00:20:23.69\00:20:26.05 "help, that help can only" 00:20:26.05\00:20:27.82 "come if God and the world" 00:20:27.82\00:20:30.33 "knows what I'm" 00:20:30.33\00:20:31.66 "going through." 00:20:31.66\00:20:33.26 >> In the book I'm "Tango," 00:20:33.26\00:20:38.43 I'm Lorna's best friend. 00:20:38.43\00:20:40.90 I chose that name because it 00:20:40.90\00:20:44.04 meant "Tana on the go" 00:20:44.04\00:20:47.08 and I'm always on the go. 00:20:47.08\00:20:49.98 Being transparent was so 00:20:49.98\00:20:53.48 important because it allowed 00:20:53.48\00:20:55.58 others to open their own self. 00:20:55.58\00:21:00.72 A lot of people are becoming 00:21:00.72\00:21:01.99 like prisoners within 00:21:01.99\00:21:04.36 themselves because they're in 00:21:04.36\00:21:05.56 so much pain. 00:21:05.56\00:21:08.00 They're walking around... 00:21:08.00\00:21:09.70 with a mask... 00:21:12.20\00:21:14.30 hiding behind 00:21:15.40\00:21:16.71 their shame, their hurt, 00:21:16.71\00:21:19.47 their pain, their rejection. 00:21:19.47\00:21:23.14 Not until you remove the mask 00:21:34.92\00:21:41.13 will you be able to 00:21:41.13\00:21:43.63 be true to yourself 00:21:43.63\00:21:46.63 and to be true to God. 00:21:46.63\00:21:48.97 >> In the book, Lorna was 00:21:50.61\00:21:52.71 incredibly transparent and I 00:21:52.71\00:21:55.08 think that as she journeyed 00:21:55.08\00:21:57.35 with God through this 00:21:57.35\00:21:58.71 experience He encouraged her 00:21:58.71\00:22:02.32 to be transparent for 00:22:02.32\00:22:03.59 her healing. 00:22:03.59\00:22:06.32 As Lorna was writing and was 00:22:06.32\00:22:10.36 being transparent she had to 00:22:10.36\00:22:13.46 face certain things 00:22:13.46\00:22:15.33 about herself. 00:22:15.33\00:22:18.03 And it's in facing those 00:22:18.03\00:22:19.80 things that I believe God 00:22:19.80\00:22:22.20 was bringing on the 00:22:22.20\00:22:24.81 transformation. 00:22:24.81\00:22:27.28 Transparency 00:22:27.28\00:22:29.38 is a part of healing. 00:22:29.38\00:22:30.95 >> So, Lorna, you talked about 00:22:34.32\00:22:36.35 the word, "intimacy," and I 00:22:36.35\00:22:37.79 always think of the word, 00:22:37.79\00:22:39.12 "intimacy," as "into me see" 00:22:39.12\00:22:41.49 and the only one who can allow 00:22:41.49\00:22:42.96 anyone to see into me is me. 00:22:42.96\00:22:45.19 And so you're opening your 00:22:45.19\00:22:46.39 heart to God and you're 00:22:46.39\00:22:48.23 allowing Him to see into you 00:22:48.23\00:22:50.17 and He speaks to you through 00:22:50.17\00:22:51.50 His word and you get to know 00:22:51.50\00:22:52.53 Him through His word. 00:22:52.53\00:22:54.94 So is there a Bible text that 00:22:54.94\00:22:57.41 speaks to you? 00:22:57.41\00:22:58.74 I mean, there are many, 00:22:58.74\00:22:59.57 I'm sure. 00:22:59.57\00:23:01.44 Is there one specifically that 00:23:01.44\00:23:02.78 you can share with us? 00:23:02.78\00:23:04.98 >> Yes, there is. 00:23:04.98\00:23:06.85 Jeremiah 29, verse 11 is my 00:23:06.85\00:23:11.45 favourite Bible text and I've 00:23:11.45\00:23:14.09 quoted it several times 00:23:14.09\00:23:16.32 in the book... 00:23:16.32\00:23:18.13 I know that I can trust in 00:23:25.73\00:23:27.87 God's promises because His 00:23:27.87\00:23:30.51 promises are true. 00:23:30.51\00:23:32.21 God is faithful and is true to 00:23:32.21\00:23:34.48 His words and therefore I need 00:23:34.48\00:23:37.18 not fear, but just to trust 00:23:37.18\00:23:39.55 Him, come what may. 00:23:39.55\00:23:41.52 He's gifted me with two 00:23:41.52\00:23:42.92 priceless gifts. 00:23:42.92\00:23:45.15 You know, there are things 00:23:45.15\00:23:46.49 that money can buy, but it is 00:23:46.49\00:23:48.49 true that money cannot buy joy 00:23:48.49\00:23:51.33 and money cannot buy peace 00:23:51.33\00:23:53.66 and these are gifts that God 00:23:53.66\00:23:55.70 has gifted me and I would not 00:23:55.70\00:23:59.13 trade them for the world, 00:23:59.13\00:24:00.37 you know? 00:24:00.37\00:24:01.97 For everything that I've been 00:24:01.97\00:24:03.71 through, I've learned to 00:24:03.71\00:24:06.88 appreciate the peace that God 00:24:06.88\00:24:09.41 has given to me. 00:24:09.41\00:24:10.81 That peace which passeth all 00:24:10.81\00:24:13.18 understanding and no matter 00:24:13.18\00:24:16.65 what you're going through, 00:24:16.65\00:24:19.15 this is my encouragement to 00:24:19.15\00:24:20.49 you, just trust God, hold onto 00:24:20.49\00:24:22.46 Him, don't let go, you know, 00:24:22.46\00:24:24.46 He will help you to get over 00:24:24.46\00:24:26.80 on the other side. 00:24:26.80\00:24:28.13 And trust in Jeremiah 29:11 00:24:28.13\00:24:30.90 that God's promise is to 00:24:30.90\00:24:32.27 prosper you. 00:24:32.27\00:24:34.54 >> So you have gone from not 00:24:34.54\00:24:37.57 being able to talk about it to 00:24:37.57\00:24:39.81 writing it, now you're talking 00:24:39.81\00:24:41.64 about it and as you said, 00:24:41.64\00:24:43.04 you're inspiring others with 00:24:43.04\00:24:44.35 it and so as we close off our 00:24:44.35\00:24:47.05 program today, I wonder, 00:24:47.05\00:24:48.52 Lorna, if you could have a 00:24:48.52\00:24:50.02 word of prayer for us? 00:24:50.02\00:24:51.49 >> Absolutely, 00:24:51.49\00:24:52.69 I would love to. 00:24:52.69\00:24:55.96 Our Father Who art in heaven, 00:24:55.96\00:24:57.76 hallowed be Thy Holy and 00:24:57.76\00:24:59.96 Thy powerful name. 00:24:59.96\00:25:01.53 Lord, we are so grateful for 00:25:01.53\00:25:03.30 Your love. 00:25:03.30\00:25:05.07 In spite of the challenges 00:25:05.07\00:25:06.67 that we face, we know that we 00:25:06.67\00:25:08.57 can look to You for help, 00:25:08.57\00:25:10.21 we know that we can come to 00:25:10.21\00:25:11.71 You for help. 00:25:11.71\00:25:13.27 You not just care about the 00:25:13.27\00:25:17.71 big things, You care about the 00:25:17.71\00:25:19.38 small things as well. 00:25:19.38\00:25:21.22 You care about everything 00:25:21.22\00:25:24.32 that concerns us. 00:25:24.32\00:25:25.99 And, Lord, as I've shared my 00:25:25.99\00:25:28.99 story today, I pray dear God 00:25:28.99\00:25:32.03 that it will be a blessing to 00:25:32.03\00:25:34.23 others and that You will get 00:25:34.23\00:25:36.50 the glory, the honour, and the 00:25:36.50\00:25:38.70 praise, that lives will be 00:25:38.70\00:25:40.94 inspired and transformed, 00:25:40.94\00:25:43.77 that others will know of Your 00:25:43.77\00:25:46.44 faithfulness, to know that 00:25:46.44\00:25:48.08 they can trust You 00:25:48.08\00:25:49.48 implicitly. 00:25:49.48\00:25:51.28 And, Lord, we thank you for 00:25:51.28\00:25:52.48 the victories, we also thank 00:25:52.48\00:25:54.12 You for the tests, Lord, 00:25:54.12\00:25:56.28 because if there are no tests, 00:25:56.28\00:25:58.49 there will be no testimony. 00:25:58.49\00:26:01.19 So we just ask that You'd give 00:26:01.19\00:26:02.86 us the strength and the 00:26:02.86\00:26:04.76 courage to continue to press 00:26:04.76\00:26:07.30 forward knowing that You will 00:26:07.30\00:26:10.07 keep us standing. 00:26:10.07\00:26:11.77 In Jesus's name I pray, amen. 00:26:11.77\00:26:13.90 >> Amen. 00:26:13.90\00:26:15.37 Lorna, thank you very much for 00:26:15.37\00:26:16.47 your wonderful prayer. 00:26:16.47\00:26:17.87 Thank you for being vulnerable 00:26:17.87\00:26:19.84 enough to share your 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Living. 00:26:59.71\00:27:01.18 [Mike] They are all there, free 00:27:01.18\00:27:02.48 for you to watch whenever you 00:27:02.48\00:27:04.22 choose because we want you to 00:27:04.22\00:27:05.99 experience the truth that is 00:27:05.99\00:27:07.72 found in the words of Jesus 00:27:07.72\00:27:09.22 when He says, "It is written," 00:27:09.22\00:27:11.76 "man shall not live by bread" 00:27:11.76\00:27:13.16 "alone, but by every word" 00:27:13.16\00:27:15.13 "that proceeds out of the" 00:27:15.13\00:27:16.43 "mouth of God." 00:27:16.43\00:27:18.57 >> Next on 00:27:19.80\00:27:21.27 It Is Written Canada... 00:27:21.27\00:27:23.14 [Pastor Maitland] A survivor 00:27:23.14\00:27:24.17 is one who lives 00:27:24.17\00:27:25.87 after an ordeal. 00:27:25.87\00:27:27.88 He had gone to the house, 00:27:27.88\00:27:29.18 he had forced himself on her 00:27:29.18\00:27:30.88 and he had raped her. 00:27:30.88\00:27:32.55 And she saw all the weapons 00:27:32.55\00:27:33.72 that the Devil forged and she 00:27:33.72\00:27:35.58 said, "No, by the help of God" 00:27:35.58\00:27:38.29 "they will not prosper." 00:27:38.29\00:27:39.99 >> Yes, I find that sometimes 00:27:39.99\00:27:41.96 when red flags come up we try 00:27:41.96\00:27:43.76 to change it to a green flag. 00:27:43.76\00:27:45.56 >> Definitely it's never too 00:27:45.56\00:27:46.83 late to make the changes and 00:27:46.83\00:27:48.03 go for what you really do 00:27:48.03\00:27:48.93 want in life. 00:27:48.93\00:27:50.17 You should never just accept 00:27:50.17\00:27:51.63 things that don't truly make 00:27:51.63\00:27:52.80 you happy and you should never 00:27:52.80\00:27:53.80 trick yourself into thinking 00:27:53.80\00:27:55.24 that you are happy 00:27:55.24\00:27:56.50 when you're not. 00:27:56.50\00:27:57.77 >> It's powerful 00:27:58.51\00:28:01.24 because we've all had our 00:28:01.24\00:28:02.84 moments of brokenness. 00:28:02.84\00:28:05.21 >> She's not walking alone 00:28:05.21\00:28:06.61 anymore, she's walking 00:28:06.61\00:28:07.92 with God. 00:28:07.92\00:28:09.45 Through earth's storms, He's 00:28:09.45\00:28:10.92 in there with her and that is 00:28:10.92\00:28:12.85 why she's now changed. 00:28:12.85\00:28:15.22 ¤¤ 00:28:15.22\00:28:47.82