>> Welcome and thank you
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for joining us on
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It Is Written Canada.
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One of the things that René
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and I love to do is to go
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running and so today I'm so
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excited because we are with a
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professional runner,
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Philip Ellis, who is the
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general manager of Peninsula
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Runners here in Langley,
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British Columbia.
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So, Phil, thank you for
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joining us on
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It Is Written Canada.
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>> Well, thank you for coming
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to beautiful Langley,
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British Columbia.
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>> Yeah, thank you for having
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us at one of your stores.
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You have three stores.
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Tell us about your work.
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>> Yeah, so Peninsula Runners
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is a locally owned independent
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running store that was started
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a little over 20 years ago.
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We have three locations here
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in Fraser Valley and our goal
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is to get people with the
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right fit for their foot so
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they can go out and run and
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exercise and walk and stay
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healthy and fit.
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>> That's great.
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So, Phil, we can see that
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running is a very big part of
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your life, so can you take us
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back to those earlier years
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and how running became a big
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part of your life?
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>> Yeah, we're going back a
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long way, but...
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Yeah, back when I was in
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school in grade 8 and grade 9
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I was running, started running
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before gym class.
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You'd have to go out for a
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mile-and-a-half run and I
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was-- realized fairly quickly
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that I was the fastest kid and
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I would push myself hard so I
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was always coming in first.
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And my gym teacher was like,
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"You know what, you may need"
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"to maybe train a little bit,"
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"you've got some"
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"ability here."
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So I ran a couple of the 10K
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races to kinda try to beat my
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friends' dads which I was able
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to do and I realized I was
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fairly good at it and it
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becomes something you wanna
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keep doing when you're doing
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well, so I kept at it.
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[René] That's great.
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So if you could put it into
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words, what would you say
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running is to you now?
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>> Today? Oh, it's a huge part
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of my life, right?
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It has been and will continue
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to be, I mean, to be in this
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business I feel if I wasn't
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going out running, I always
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say running is part of my job
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so I get the excuse to go
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running every morning,
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[chuckles] right?
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But so it's a huge part of my
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life, but it's-- and it's also
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for my mental side of things,
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for my physical health
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obviously I think it's
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important, but probably more
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so for my mental just to
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de-stress and enjoy nature and
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get out in--
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on the trails here in the
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Fraser Valley.
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>> Tell us about food,
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nutrition; is that a part of
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your running?
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>> Yeah, well, y--
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It most definitely is.
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I was raised, you know, eating
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basically a plant-based diet
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and I continue to and I
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remember early on though,
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my first coach saying,
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"You know what, I think"
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"that's something you'll"
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"have to change."
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"You'll probably need to"
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"maybe eat some meat at some"
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"point to have the endurance"
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"to do the long races."
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But no, I was--
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that was probably my stronger
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thing that I was strong.
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I was never-- so...
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But, yeah, I believe most
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definitely eating a healthy,
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balanced diet and lots of wa--
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I'm a big water-drinker.
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You see people with this
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Gatorade stuff and I mean it's
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just sugar water so...
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>> So the James Cunningham
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Seawall Race: tell us about
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your involvement in that.
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>> Yeah, so that's one of the
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longest running races here in
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B.C., started in 1971 when
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they-- to commemorate the
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finishing of the Seawall which
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goes around Stanley Park so
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they had developed a race to
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go around there.
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I ran it for the first time
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when I was a kid in 1983
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and I think, actually, I won
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for being a kid under 19 and
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then I went back and have done
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that many years.
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It's kind of a-- in the end of
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October it's a good
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season-ending kind of a race
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and I was able to win it in
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1988 and then went on to win
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it another six times and...
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[Mike] Six times!
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[René] Whoa!
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>> So, Phil, can you take
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us back to when you won the
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Vancouver Sun Run?
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>> Yeah, that was 1991.
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It was a-- I had come third
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two years earlier and then--
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So I knew I was capable of
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doing well in this race, but
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it was a very good field that
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year, there was 5 or 6 guys
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that either went to the 1988
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Olympics or to the 1992
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Olympics and so I wasn't the
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favourite by any stretch, but
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you gotta have confidence and
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determination and
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that I had.
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And then I think we have...
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>> We just have some footage
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of that.
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So let's take a look at that
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and you can kinda walk us
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and you can kinda walk us
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through it, talk us through it
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and see what's
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happening there.
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[Commentator] Now look what's
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happening, Paul Williams
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coming back, the 34-year-old
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from Vancouver...
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[Phil] Here I am,
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The guy in the white shirt,
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Paul has just passed me and...
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yeah, I think he thought he
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had the race won, that I'd
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tired myself out, but I still
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had an extra gear left and so
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here I pull up beside him, we
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had about 450 metres to go,
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I'm just trying to figure out
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when to go, I looked back to
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make sure no-- none of the
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other runners are gonna get
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back in it and then look at my
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watch, it's go time, let's?.
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So at this point I put a surge
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in, my last surge of the race
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and I pull away from Paul
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fairly easily and I was quite
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surprised that...
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[Mike] And there's three guys
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behind you...
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[Phil] There's three guys
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behind me, they're all very
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qualified guys who went to the
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1992 Olympics.
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[Mike] So let's listen in.
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[Commentator] ...looking
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behind him as they approach
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that finish line tight.
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Phil Ellis once again looks to
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his right, he knows he's got
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the win today, let's take a
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look at the clock.
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Look at him, raising his arms
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in victory, he's coming up to
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the tape.
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What a magnificent win for
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Phil Ellis, 29:03 his winning
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time, just a couple of seconds
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ahead of Paul Williams...
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>> Wow!
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>> So how'd you feel
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after that?
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>> Oh, pretty excited.
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I mean, I was pretty young at
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the time, I had beaten those
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three guys there.
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That's Paul and Graham and
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Art, they're all Olympic
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runners that are all like 10
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years older than me and so it
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was quite an honour to beat
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them in that situation.
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>> When you're going over the
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finish line here, you were
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looking up and were you--
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What were you thinking?
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>> Oh, you know, I was happy
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to win and...
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You know what, back then
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there was um...
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There was people above, kind
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of there's an overpass going
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across the top so I think I
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might have been looking, but,
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you know...
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Maybe thanking God, too,
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I don't know, like [chuckles]
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>> It was a big moment for you.
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>> It was a big win for me.
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I was, yeah.
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It would have been something I
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had dreaming about-- thinking
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about for a long time heading
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into that race so to pull it
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off, to execute a strategy,
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it's always good, right?
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[Mike] Quite an achievement.
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[René] That is great, so...
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So you were in very good shape
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at this time so what was your
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average mile that you were
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running at this time?
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>> In that race it was 4:39 a
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mile which per kilometre,
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that's 2 minutes and
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54 seconds.
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[Mike] Wow, that's fast.
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[René] That's incredible.
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So with times like that it
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sounds like you were in line
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to do-- to be in the Olympics
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or be an Olympic athlete.
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>> Yeah, that was the goal.
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I wanted to try to make the
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1992 Olympics games for the
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10,000 metres and...
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[Mike] How did that go?
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>> You know what, I got second
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in the Olympic trials.
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That year you had to win the
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Olympic trials because nobody
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had the A-standard so I lost
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by a second in the sprint
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and so...
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But, you know, I was young and
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I always-- positive attitude
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and I was...
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>> Yeah, how did you handle
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the discouragement?
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That was your goal, right?
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>> Yeah, that was a big goal.
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You know what, you just look
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forward to other things and
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you try to put it in
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perspective that this is not
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the end of the world and you
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continue to have goals and
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you know, obviously as a
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Christian, too, you try to
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focus on there's bigger things
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than running, right?
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[René]  Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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>> So you were pretty young
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and a few years later you were
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struggling with an injury.
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Do you wanna talk about that?
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>> Yeah, so in 1995 in--
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We were getting ready for the
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national 10K Road
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Championships and I was out
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for a run, just a nice run
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around Burnaby Lake and I hit
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a stone and I sprained my
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ankle quite badly.
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I still wanted to run the race
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which I did.
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I think I came second in the
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race so I did well, but...
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there was something not right
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after that.
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I kept struggling with this
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lack of feeling of stability
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in my ankle.
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So you try to keep training
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for it, looking forward to
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the-- trying to qualify for
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the '96 Olympics, but...
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Yeah, it was something I kept
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struggling with over the next
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two years and it actually
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prevented me from kind of
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being able to train at the
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level I needed to in order to
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qualify for the '96 games so I
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missed out on that opportunity
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as well, right?
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[Mike] So you had this injury,
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you turned your ankle,
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what happened from that?
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I know it was disappointing
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not getting into the Olympics,
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what was the greatest
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disappointment though?
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>> Well, the greatest
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disappointment was by the end
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of the 1997 season, it was
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getting worse and worse and I
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was-- racing was actually the
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only good thing for it and
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eventually there was no more
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races to run so I got to the
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point where within a week of
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my last race which was in
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Japan, I came home and I
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wasn't able to run at all
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anymore.
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Couldn't even run across the
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street to, you know, catch a
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bus so to speak, so...
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And so I'd been dealing with,
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you know, one of the best
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renowned sports doctors in
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B.C. over the last two years
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and we hadn't been able to
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figure it out, but at that
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point I remember him sitting
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me down and saying, you know,
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"I don't think you'll"
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"ever run again."
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And so that was a real hard
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thing to hear when that's what
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you love to do and it's such a
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big part of your life, right?
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So...
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[Mike] That would be
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very, very disappointing.
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So you had this injury, did it
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prevent you from walking?
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>> No, thankfully not,
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although that is something the
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doctors asked me numerous
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times about, but what it did
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do, it's a sport-specific
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focal dystonia which basically
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when I run, it kind of--
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there's a nerve reaction
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designed to protect me from
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spraining my ankle, but I
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would pull my ankle in and
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twist it and it was actually
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hurting me, you know,
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preventing me from being able
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to put both...
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[Mike] Go further, go forward.
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>> Yeah, be able to even put
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your foot down and it was
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quite, it was kind of, feels
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very awkward and painful at
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the same time.
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[Mike] Oh, I'm sure.
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>> Yeah.
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[René] So, Phil, how did this
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injury affect your
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faith in God?
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Did you have some discussions
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with Him about why this was
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happening to you?
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>> Oh for sure, yeah.
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You kinda say, "Hey, God,"
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"You gave me this talent,"
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"why can't I use it?"
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And um...
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It's tough for a while, you
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kind of-- I never doubted
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and I never blamed God, but
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I'm like, "Why don't You"
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"help me get over this?"
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'Cause I was trying
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so many things, right?
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[Mike] Yeah, yeah.
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>> So hard.
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>> And this was such a big
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part of your life.
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>> Mm-hmm, yeah.
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>> You were a professional
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runner.
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You can see other people
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running and it's not so big of
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a deal to them, but to you
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it's a major thing, yeah.
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>> Yeah, it was taking away
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obviously what I wanted to
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achieve, but also long term, I
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wanted to be able to run again
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'cause at this point I'd done
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so much of it, I wanna keep
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doing this, for my health, for
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my sanity, for, you know, just
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for my life, so that was where
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I was like, you know,
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"God, why can't You let me"
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"run, I don't wanna have to--"
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I was riding my bike, but that
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doesn't do it if you're a
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runner, so...
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[chuckles]
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>> So when did you start
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running again?
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How could you get back
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into it again?
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>> Oh, that was a very long,
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hard road and basically the
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doctors said I never
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would, right?
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They didn't think there was a
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solution, but at the same time
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they said, "You know what?"
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"Explore all the options or"
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"avenues that you can."
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At the same time keeping in
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mind that you know this injury
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better than anybody else
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'cause this injury is not in a
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textbook, this injury is,
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you know...
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[Mike] Specific to you.
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>> Specific to me, yeah.
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There's nobody else that's
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really had this injury so this
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is very unique.
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So I did, I went to a lot of
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different people to try
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different things and
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unfortunately it would always
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end in failure so this is kind
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of part of this yo-yo thing,
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right, with your talk--
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asking God, "Why, why?" right?
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But then I was in seeing a guy
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for a pair of orthotics that
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they thought might help and I
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saw on his wall this kind of
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brace that kind of wraps the
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foot for when they have
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drop-foot and I said,
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"I need that to run in."
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>> What did that look like?
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>> Well, you know, I got my
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first one here, so let's just
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take a look at it.
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>> This is what he built
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for me...
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>> Wow, that's well-used.
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>> Yeah, very well-used.
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The difference is that he
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made it with a hinge in here
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because I'd be able to run
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'cause the ones I saw in his
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office he said you'd actually
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just tear it apart if you
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tried to run in it so...
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But as you can see, there's,
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well this one...
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I had another one built after
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this, but...
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I put a lot of miles on this.
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[Mike] I'm sure you did.
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>> Yeah.
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And the thing-- the key here
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was though even when I first
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got it, I thought, "Now I'm"
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"gonna be able to come back"
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"and be able to retrain this"
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"nerve," which is what we're
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really trying to do.
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But then I remember the first
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time I took it out for a run,
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I came back disappointed
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'cause it still did the
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reaction, right?
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So it hadn't cured it.
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Took a little bit more
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time off.
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So there was this back and
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forth, right?
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I had this determination,
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I never quit.
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I still wanted to run so
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I kind of thought about it,
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I said, "You know what?"
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"I've spent like 500 bucks"
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"on this thing, let's try to"
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"use this to get me back"
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"to running," because at that
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point everything else was out.
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So what I did was I just very
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slowly went to a walk/jog,
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basically and I'd jog with
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this on.
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Slowly as I would've come
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back, it was a slow process,
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but I was very
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determined, right?
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I just didn't wanna quit and
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so I kept at it, kept at it
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to the point where I was able
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to, you know, feel more like I
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was running, but I still with
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this, so I still needed this.
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And then, you know, about--
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a little bit later on I wanted
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to try to wean myself off of
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this and so I would run with
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this sometimes, sometimes a
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little shorter, not with it...
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>> Yeah, yeah.
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[Phil] Yeah.
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>> Yeah, so you had-- you were
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told there's no way you're
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gonna run again and you were
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determined; "No, I'm gonna"
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"run again."
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And you just kept at it.
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[Phil] Yes.
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>> Never gave up.
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>> Yeah, I never gave up.
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I mean, I could have said,
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"Hey, you know what, it was"
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"nice running," and just gone
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on to keep cycling or
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something, done something
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else, but that's kind of in
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my-- it was in my--
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That's what makes me feel
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good, right? So, yeah.
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[Mike] Yes, absolutely.
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>> So how often do you
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run now each week?
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>> I run-- I try to get out
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six days a week for sure.
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Usually I run in the morning
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before I come to work.
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>> Where do you like to run
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the most?
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>> Oh, I love the parks here
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in the Fraser Valley, Campbell
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Valley, Aldergrove Lake,
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Fort-to-Fort Trail, but often
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because, you know what,
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running is a convenient thing,
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it's easy to do, I often will
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just even do it from my home
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or from the store here,
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maybe I come early and I head
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out for runs so...
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>> So, Phil, you're the
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general manager of
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Peninsula Runners.
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What's the favourite thing
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about your job?
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>> You know what, it's trying
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to motivate people into a
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healthy, active
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lifestyle, right?
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So I'm not here to sell shoes,
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I mean, that doesn't really
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interest me.
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I've actually, it's int--
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some of the reps that I deal
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with, they're really--
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they're shoe guys, they like
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the shoes.
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And then, I mean obviously I
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value a good shoe, but that's,
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the shoe is the tool that
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allows me to do what I want to
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do and that's what I want the
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customers--
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I don't want them to see the
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shoe as what they need as it
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is the running or the living
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healthy, right?
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So I want to sell people on
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running, sell people on being
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active and healthy.
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Sell them on that and make
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them want to do that and
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create it as a healthy
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lifestyle, right?
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[Mike] A healthy lifestyle,
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very important and one of the
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things that we like to do is
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give people opportunities to
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learn when it comes to a
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healthy lifestyle.
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So we're going to just take a
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little bit of a break and look
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at a recipe in the kitchen so
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we're going to look at
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Experiencing Life in the
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Kitchen right now and they are
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going to give us a recipe on
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one of the most important
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meals of the day
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and that's breakfast.
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So let's cut to that right now
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and then we'll come
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right back.
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[Phil] Sounds good.
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>> Hi, my name's Ceri and this
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is my friend, Becky.
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>> And we are passionate about
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health and showing people how
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we can make food taste great.
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>> Absolutely.
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We're here experiencing life in
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the kitchen and we're gonna
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show you how to make something
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called "overnight oats."
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It's our favourite go-to
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breakfast on the road.
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>> It's so fast, it's quick,
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it's easy, I love it and you
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can just make it right the
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night before and have it ready
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to go when you need it.
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>> Yeah, so all you need is
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three simple ingredients or
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four: oats, milk,
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seeds, fruit.
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You can make it as simple or
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as complicated as you want.
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>> Exactly.
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>> So let's dive in!
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[Ceri] Well, the base of this
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recipe is oats.
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Becky, do you mind telling me
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what's so amazing, I know
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there's fibre in here...
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>> Yeah, so there's two types
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of fibre actually.
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So there's soluble fibre
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which helps to lower your
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cholesterol levels and
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stabilize your blood sugar and
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then the insoluble actually
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helps keep you regular.
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[Ceri] Wow!
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[Becky] So that's what's
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really awesome about that.
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[Ceri] That's so cool!
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Awesome!
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So we just do one cup of oats
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in our Mason jar normally,
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right, and we do one cup of
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liquid or mixture of milk and
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yogurt, right?
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>> Mm-hmm.
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>> So this is oat milk.
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It's my new favourite milk,
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it's amazing.
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I know a lot of people use soy
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milk and almond milk...
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>> I love almond and soy,
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personally, but any plant milk
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you have works.
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>> Yeah, so...even sesame.
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Sesame milk is pretty cool.
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>> Oh, that would be
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really good.
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>> So I just put that in.
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This is 3/4 cups of milk
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and then we're gonna also add
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some yogurt.
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Yogurt makes it...
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[Becky] So good.
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[Ceri] So rich.
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>> And has so many great
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nutrients, too.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So we have all our
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probiotics in here.
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And actually the oats serve as
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a prebiotic which actually
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feeds your natural gut
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probiotics so it's a
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double-whammy here.
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>> So I put in about a 1/4 cup
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or just a big dollop,
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scoop, yep.
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>> Perfect.
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>> Throw that in, mix it in
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with my oats.
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[Becky] Or...
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[Ceri] Or what?
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[Becky] You could make it
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even faster.
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You can close the lid and give
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it a quick shake.
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That's what I like to do if I
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just don't feel like using a
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spoon.
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I mean, it all works.
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>> She's smart!
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>> Yeah, just another way.
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>> Alright, I guess before I
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finish stirring,
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I need to add...
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>> We should add some other...
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>> My nuts and my seeds.
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We're actually gonna use
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hemp seeds.
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Hemp seeds are
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amazing protein.
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>> So much, they're actually a
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complete protein.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So they have all nine
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essential amino acids.
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So they are just a powerhouse
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of nutrition and they also
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have our omega 3's and
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omega 6's, so...
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>> So great.
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And then chia seeds.
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So about a tablespoon of each.
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One of each and again...
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[Becky] And we have our
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calcium, we have our
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antioxidants...
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You also have protein in the
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chia seeds as well so you have
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all sorts.
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>> So good.
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>> And if you don't have those
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at home, but you have
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pumpkin seeds or flax seeds,
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you can put any other seeds in.
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We just really love these two
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and the chia seeds actually
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help give it some bulk and
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and kinda help thicken it up,
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too, with the oats, so...
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[Ceri] Yep, for sure,
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for sure.
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And if you like yours sweet,
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you can add just a little,
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you know, about a teaspoon or
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two teaspoons of maple syrup
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in there and um...
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[Becky] My husband likes his
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with it, but...
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[Ceri] Yeah, I'm sure.
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Most people do.
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[Becky] Yeah it's really good.
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[Ceri] We add fruit.
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So today we're gonna add some
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blueberries and raspberries
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you can add cherries, whatever
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you have around.
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[Becky] Frozen, fresh...
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[Ceri] Yep.
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[Becky] Doesn't matter,
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whatever you have.
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[Ceri] It all works.
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[Becky] Yep.
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[Ceri] So after you're done
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mixing or shaking it,
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just put it on top.
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[Becky] And you can even make
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a fruit sauce, too.
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So sometimes I'll have made a
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fruit sauce already and I'm
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like, "Oh, I don't have any"
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"fresh fruit or frozen, but I"
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"already made some and it's"
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"been in the fridge for a"
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"few days."
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That's fine, put that on top.
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[Ceri] So smart.
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[Becky] Perfect, too.
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[Ceri] That's so smart.
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So then all you do is pop the
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lid on and then what I do
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which I think is really nice,
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is I grab a string, a spoon,
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and a napkin so that if I'm
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giving this to one of my
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friends as they're leaving
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early in the morning from my
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place or just myself, if I do
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it like this, tie it all
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together, then I know when I
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grab it out of the fridge in
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the morning,
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it's all together.
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I don't have to pack this
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little bag,
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I just have it all here.
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It's a no-brainer.
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You just grab it and go.
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It's so easy and it fits in your
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cupholder.
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[Becky] It does. It's great.
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>> I love texture in my food,
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it's really important so I
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love fresh granola.
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So I eat it down a little ways
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and then I put a little Ziploc
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bag with granola and pour that
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in as I'm eating it.
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>> Totally.
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>> And so this is a granola
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that I love to use, it's from
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One Degree.
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You use One Degree products
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I know...
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>> I love their stuff.
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You know exactly what you're
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getting, it's non-GMO and it's
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totally family-friendly.
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>> So when I eat this for
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breakfast, I feel good,
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I'm ready to go.
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The other thing I do is I
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spend time in the word of God
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because I wanna know who my
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Creator is and who He's
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creating me to be.
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So doing that and then
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grabbing my breakfast, I'm
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fuelled for my day, I'm ready
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to go, I can work hard for a
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long time and...
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Yeah, that's my morning
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routine, so...
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>> That's awesome!
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>> I just hope for you guys
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that you'll hopefully learn
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something today and...
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[Becky] Try it out at
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home yourself.
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[Ceri] Yeah!
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You're gonna love it.
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>> Wow, that's a great recipe,
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especially for a runner or
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somebody who's really busy,
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you know, and don't have a lot
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of time, you need to get a
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good nutritious breakfast,
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that's the most important meal
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of the day for everybody,
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especially for athletes and
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I mean, it's packed with
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carbohydrates and energy for
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life for you so..
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[Mike] Grab it and go.
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>> Grab it and go, yeah.
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>> So here you are in a store
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where you're not just selling
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shoes, you're selling health.
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So do you ever share your
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faith with customers?
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>> Yeah, you know what, I do
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get an opportunity once
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in a while.
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I try to keep though
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politics and religion somewhat
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separate, right, so I don't
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wanna come over bringing it up
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myself, but I do get customers
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that will instigate with me
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and maybe some of them--
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I know that, you know what,
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and I have a lot of running
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groups here, too, and people
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know that I'm a Christian and
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then through the latest
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pandemic, I've had an
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opportunity to--
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We always-- I always email the
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group and I've been emailing
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them twice a week giving them
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positive messages, never
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mentioning anything negative.
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Wasn't anything ever negative
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in those emails and just
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trying to motivate people to get
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outside and to stay healthy,
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to keep their immune system,
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keep them going and I've had,
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lots of them actually, have
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commented to me, you know,
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thanking me,
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"Hey, thanks for your emails,"
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"that was the thing that was"
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"helping me get through those"
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"really glum days where"
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"everybody was telling me to"
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"stay home and not do"
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"anything," right? But...
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>> So, before we end, do you
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have any Bible verses or any
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Bible promises that you would
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like to share with us that
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just encouraged you?
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>> Yeah, well, you know,
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during the injury and the
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fight back, certainly it was
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Philippians 4:13, right?
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[Phil] So that was most
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definitely crucial to me and
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kind of going, even though the
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medical professionals are
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telling me--
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I was told I would never run
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again, "Well, no."
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"God says I can."
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So...and I was able to find
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that pathway.
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So to me, it was, you know,
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"Never give up, never give"
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"up, never quit."
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And then certainly I've
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always, as an athlete, I've
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always liked, you know,
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I Corinthians where Apostle
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Paul talks about the race of
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life and...
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[Mike] I Corinthians 9.
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[Phil] Yeah, yeah and I've
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always enjoyed that and I can
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relate to that and how
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you have to train and you have
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to have discipline.
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So running has taught me a lot
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of those things and certainly
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never giving up so the race of
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life, right?
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I mean, and then I think
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that's where the apostle Paul
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was going, you know, there's
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this race and these guys
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prepare, but we in our-- the
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race of life and...
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Yeah.
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>> This is long term.
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[Phil] This is long term, right?
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>> This is eternal life that
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we're looking for.
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[Phil] Yeah, yeah.
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>> So you're running in that
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race, you know what it means
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to run in a race, you know
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what it means to train.
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So as Christians, we're
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training and we're trusting
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God and He's giving us the
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strength to do that.
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>> Yeah, and you know what, we
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have to have faith, right?
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So...and we don't always get
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that answer, right?
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I didn't get that answer
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often, I didn't know whether
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I'd be able to run again, but
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I always had faith that I
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could get beyond it and the
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same thing, you know, we as
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Christians, maybe sometimes
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there's challenges that come
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up, right?
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But we have to have faith we
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can get beyond whatever that
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challenge is.
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I know in the last little
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while, you know, me and my
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wife, we've been able to get
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through some of the challenges
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of the pandemic as a face and
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it's a-- we have chosen to go
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closer to God.
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[René,] Well, that's wonderful.
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Thank you so much, Phil.
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Could we ask you to have the
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closing prayer for us, please?
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>> For sure, yeah.
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Dear Heavenly Father we thank
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You for bringing us all
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together here in
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Langley, British Columbia.
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We thank You for the guiding
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that You have done in my life
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and I pray that there is
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somebody out there that will
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maybe be able to relate to
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some of the challenges that I
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faced and went through
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or maybe they're different
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challenges, but dear God,
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I pray that they will see that
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You are the answer and that
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You can help them.
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Even though sometimes the
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answer we get is maybe not the
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answer we're thinking we want,
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but dear God we've got to
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continue to have faith in You,
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knowing that the race of life
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is the most important race to
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get to the finish line and to
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have that strong faith in You.
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So, dear God, I pray that You're
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with this country, You're with
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the people of this country,
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that You'll encourage people
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to look for You, to look for
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answers in these confusing
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times and to keep them healthy
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and strong and if there's any
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way that we can help, let us
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be the light in their
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community that we can help
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them stay healthy and strong,
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through running, through
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exercise, through--
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for their minds so that they
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can think clearly and think
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about You.
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So, dear God, again, I thank
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You for everything You've done
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for me and I pray that You're
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with the rest of the people in
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this great country of Canada.
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Thank You, very much.
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In Your name, amen.
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[Mike and René] Amen.
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>> Phil, thank You so much for
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sharing your story.
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Very inspirational.
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>> Well, thank you for coming
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here and telling my story.
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I mean, to me it's a bit of an
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old story, but I hope it's
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something that people can
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still gain value out of.
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[Mike] Always encouraging.
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