price tag attached to it?
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>> So what is your dream?
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>> How much is your dream going
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to cost you?
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>> How much time, energy, and
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money are you prepared to pay to
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make your dream come true?
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>> You know, Jesus paid the
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supreme price for His dream.
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>> Yes, it cost Him His life.
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>> In Ephesians chapter 5 verse
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2, the apostle Paul encourages
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us to "walk in love as Christ
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also has loved us and given
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Himself for us, an offering and
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a sacrifice to God."
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>> It was His deep love for you
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that compelled Jesus to pay the
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supreme price so that He can
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live with you in heaven
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eternally.
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>> And one day, Jesus will
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return because He is looking
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forward to seeing His dream come
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true.
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>> He's looking forward to
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seeing you! And we want to
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challenge you today: accept
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Jesus' dream for you and make
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His dream your dream.
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>> When Jesus comes, we want you
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to be able to declare the words
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that are found in Isaiah chapter
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25 verse 9 which says, "Behold,
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this is our God; we have waited
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for Him and He will save us.
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This is the Lord, we have waited
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for Him. We will be glad and
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rejoice in His salvation." That
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will be the ultimate dream come
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true.
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>> Our guest, Dr. David Sloan,
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is back with us to share the
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rest of his testimony of how he
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experienced God's deep love for
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him and how God's dream for his
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life became his dream, too.
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>> So we will be right back to
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let him share the second part of
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his miraculous story of how his
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life was transformed by the
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power of God.
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>> Hello and welcome and thank
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you for joining us on It Is
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Written Canada. Last week we
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were talking to Dr. David Sloan
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and he was sharing a miraculous,
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amazing conversion experience
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that he had. And sometimes we
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want those experiences to be
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just an instant thing, that
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everything changes
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automatically. And he was
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telling us about how he grew up
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in a pastor's home and how he
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had drifted away from the Lord
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and how the music industry had a
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real tight hold upon him. And
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so, Dr. Sloan, we thank you for
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joining us and you have your
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lovely wife, Erika, here with us
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and we're going to be talking to
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you a little bit later in the
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journey as we go along with
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this, Erika. So, Dr. Sloan, you
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shared about how the music
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industry had -- you had been
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successful and how it kind of
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pulled you away from God and you
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had forgotten about God.
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Although He hadn't forgotten
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about you, He sent someone to
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talk to you, miraculously, and
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you looked for a sign because
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you wanted to know, hey, is this
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for real? And God gave you that
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sign and spoke to you and there
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was a great conversion that
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happened in your life and you
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surrendered your life to the
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Lord. You had some obstacles
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along the way though --
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objections: should I do this and
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if I give my heart to the Lord,
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maybe He's going to pull me out
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of everything I know and how am
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I going to go forward with
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that? And your friend assured
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you, just surrender to the Lord
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and He will help you. And He
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opened your eyes and now you're
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going to continue telling us
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about what you went through at
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that point. So would you like to
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share --
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>> Well, you know, I could
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gradually see that the work that
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I was doing was really not
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furthering God's work in this
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world. The question was, as you
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said, is the hold that this had
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on me and the, sort of, question
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about where would I go, you
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know. But what really turned
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things around was -- I was with
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the show band and we were
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performing in Montreal and then
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we were to then perform in the
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eastern provinces, I think it
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was New Brunswick. And I had
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lent my van in order for them to
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be able to carry the equipment
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and so at the end, Saturday
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night, when we were all
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finished, they all took off and
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said, "We'll see you in New
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Brunswick." And I was left to
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myself to bring all the
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equipment; late at night,
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driving through the night,
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through, you know... So packed
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up everything and I got in and
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started driving and this was May
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or June and here I am, driving
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in the mountains -- they're not
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mountains like western Canada,
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but they're fairly large, sort
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of hilly areas, and I was
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driving through that and all of
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a sudden, a freak snow storm.
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May or June. And my van at the
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time had bald tires and it was
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stacked with equipment so high
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centre of gravity and I was
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going down a hill, a very steep
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hill, and I started to lose
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control. I could feel the van
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going. And I was looking ahead
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and all I could see was a steep
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cliff and as I was going the van
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just -- because there was no
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traction it just turned right
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around and I knew I was going
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over the cliff. There was no
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question in my mind, I thought,
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"This is it, this is the end of
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my life." And so as it came
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around, it all of a sudden felt
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like I'd hit a pole or a post or
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something because it just
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crunched to a stop. And I was
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shaking like a leaf, I could
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barely -- you know how when
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you're so -- you could hardly --
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>> The adrenaline is rushing.
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Yeah.
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>> I could hardly even walk I
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was shaking so much, but I got
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out and I went to the back to
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look for that pole or post or
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whatever that stopped me, and
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there was nothing there.
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Absolutely nothing there. And,
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you know, it hit me so hard, I
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realized, you know, Satan was
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bent on destroying me because I
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was planning to leave the music
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business, that was in my heart.
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He had no more use for me, he
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was going to destroy me and that
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God sent a mighty angel to stand
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and stop that van from going
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over that cliff. I was so
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absolutely convinced of that. I
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got back in the van, I sobbed
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for what seemed like a long,
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long, long time, I was just --
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and I said, "Lord, I am going to
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leave this business now." So I
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made my way slowly back to a
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motel and I got down on my knees
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and I told the Lord, "I'm
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leaving, and I'm leaving this up
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to you, Lord, you show me the
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way that I need to go, but I",
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you know, "I'm leaving and I'm
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not going to come back." So when
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I got to New Brunswick the next
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day, I told the band leader that
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I was, you know, going to be
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quitting the band from then on.
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But now what was going on was I
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was having severe health issues
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and for a period of time through
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my life, I was very sick, I was
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a sickly child, I had a lot of
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respiratory disorders and
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allergies and things like that.
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And so I was OK for a little
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while, but then getting in the
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band and being on the road and
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the kind of diet that we were on
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and the lifestyle and, you know,
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the hard living that we did, it
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took its toll. And I was pretty
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much in every emergency room in
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most of the cities and towns
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across Ontario and Canada just
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to get help. I can say this: I
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never missed one night of
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performance, but some nights
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were pretty shaky. And so one
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night we were playing in
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Toronto, as a matter of fact we
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had a bunch of friends out and
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one of my doctor friends
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introduced a chiropractor to me
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who was studying to be a
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naturopath and I said to this
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particular doctor, I said, "You
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know, I know I'm not well. I've
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been to my family doctor, he's
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given me a clean bill of health,
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I've had the blood work and
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checked me over, but I know I'm
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not well." And he said, "Well",
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you know, "come into my office
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and I'll give you a checkup."
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And so I did that and after he
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had spent a couple of hours of
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thoroughly going over
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everything, we sat down at his
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desk and he said, "Well,
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basically, I figure you have
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about two years to live." And as
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I was thinking in my mind as he
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said this, you know, I've just
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been married to my dear wife for
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about a year, how am I going to
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explain this to her? Here I've
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just married this man and now I
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have to prepare for his funeral.
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And so I said, you know, "I knew
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I wasn't well, but I didn't
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think I was that bad." He says,
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"Well, your whole system is
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basically shutting down. All
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your major systems: your immune
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system, your gastrointestinal,
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digestive, respiratory,
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elimination, all of these
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different areas, cardiovascular,
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as well, are being so gravely
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affected by", you know, "what
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you've been going through in the
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last two or three years, you
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really don't have much left."
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And I said, "Well, certainly
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there's got to be some hope." He
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says, "Yes, there is hope. But
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this is what you have to do." He
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says, "You need to change your
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diet, you need to change your
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lifestyle and I'm going to give
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you some natural medicine." So I
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said, "So exactly what things do
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I need to change then?" He says,
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"Well, your diet you need to
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change to be a total vegetarian
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or a vegan." And you've got to
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understand that, you know, I was
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-- junk food, high-sugar,
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high-fat, meat, potatoes,
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things, you know, type of diet.
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But really, when you're faced
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with that kind of a thing, what
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choice do you have? And I
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remember Erika asking me when I
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went through the list of things
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I couldn't eat, she says, "Well,
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is there anything left that you
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can eat?" (chuckles) And, you
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know, it was pretty basic in
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those early days. So that was
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the diet part of things, the
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lifestyle thing was, you know,
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you've got to get into a
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healthier environment. You know
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the bars, smoke and, you know,
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in those days there was no
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filters, it was completely --
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and people smoked inside as well
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as outside. And the herbs that
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he recommended were two herbs:
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myrrh and slippery elm which
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are, you know, known very well
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today to have very wonderful
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properties in helping to heal
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inflammation and antioxidant
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properties to help heal cells.
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So I had started in on that
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pretty much right away. I mean,
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with a death sentence like that,
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I just felt that I have to give
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it all I've got and I did. And
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my wife can testify to that fact
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that I went from what I was in
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one day to being a total
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vegetarian the next. And here we
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were grappling with this kind of
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a change.
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>> So, Erika, this is where your
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journey starts because obviously
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you knew that your husband
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wasn't healthy and he wasn't
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doing well and then he comes
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with this prescription: we need
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to change our diet. So how did
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your journey start with that?
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>> Well, it was quite a shock
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for sure. And of course we knew
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no one else who was a vegetarian
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at the time. There wasn't
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internet to go on and get
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recipes. There wasn't even like
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soy milk or other dairy-free
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choices like there are today, it
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was totally different back then
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in the 70s. So it was a
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challenge. It was a real
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learning experience for both of
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us.
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>> The good news is is that I'm
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still here today and that's
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40-odd years later. And God has
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blessed us with amazing -- this
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journey has just been absolutely
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amazing.
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>> So in changing, what really
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helped you to find some recipes
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to find a new direction in terms
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of -- I mean, once you change
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your health, could you see that
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God was working through this?
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Did He help you to find recipes
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and help people -- I guess find
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a community of people who would
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support you?
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>> Yeah. And this is again
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unmistakably how God led in our
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lives. And we heard of a
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vegetarian restaurant that was
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in Port Dover, which was not too
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far from where we were living.
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And we jumped at the opportunity
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to go because, you know, eating
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baked potatoes and a few cooked
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vegetables and salad every day
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was starting to get a little bit
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old. And so we went to this
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vegetarian restaurant which was
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only open for a couple months
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and then it closed so we
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happened to just get there
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probably before it was closing.
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And it just happened that while
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we were there, there was a young
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gentleman who was sharing some
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pictures with the two owners of
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this vegetarian restaurant. And
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we were kind of curious, I was
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helping my father-in-law in
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photography at the time and
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Erika and I were doing weddings
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and things like that so we just
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kind of, you know, were looking
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over and before you know it we
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were over there sitting with
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them looking at these pictures.
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And so this fellow, his name is
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Jerry, he was relating to us an
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amazing conversion experience
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that he had. And he said -- I
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said to him, "Well, that is
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absolutely an amazing story."
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And I share a little bit about
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my conversion experience and
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then the fact that we were drawn
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to, you know, for health reasons
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this diet that we were given.
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And he said, "Well, I have a
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book that was written in the
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1800's that talks about this
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very thing that you're doing and
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the research", you know, "that's
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come many, many, many years
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later is proving all that she
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said is true." And at the time,
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I was starting to study in
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natural medicine and nutrition
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and he said, "You should read
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this book." So sure enough, he
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made sure I got that book. He
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dropped it off and I started
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reading it. It was called
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Counsels on Diet and Foods   by
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Ellen G. White. So one thing led
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to another as I read through
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this book, I was becoming more
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and more convicted that God
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really had a health message. Not
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only did He have, you know, the
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blueprint, the map, you know, or
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the guide for the way we could
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live in the Bible, but He also
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had a health message in the
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Bible. And so we had started to
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discover that what we were doing
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was very closely connected to
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what God wanted us to do and all
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tied in with this whole, you
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know, inviting Jesus into my
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life and here all of this was
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unfolding. And so Erika and I
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began to become more and more
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aware of this and I got together
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with Jerry on occasions. He
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actually opened a bake shop in
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Port Dover and I, being out of
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the music business and not
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having a whole lot to do, I
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offered to help him. And so
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while we were there we would
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listen to Christian tapes on,
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you know, different Bible topics
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and I was getting all this, you
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know, coming at me and was
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sharing a little bit with Erika
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and eventually we became -- and
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I should say, before that we
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studied with a number of
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different churches and searching
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and -- my feeling is is that
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when we changed our diet, that
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that's what cleared our minds to
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be able to see more clearly
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spiritually. And spiritually, we
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started to understand. And this
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is something that I share with
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many people is that, when you
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change your diet to a
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vegetarian, a vegan diet, all of
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a sudden you find that you are
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more spiritually aware, that you
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discern things much more
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spiritually and that God can
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actually communicate with you
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better on a spiritual level. So
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long story short, God was
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unerringly leading us to the
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Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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Through many other churches and
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studies and so on, it was an
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amazing journey in itself how we
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were led to this church. And we
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felt that this church spoke the
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truth to us, that this was a
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church that had the truth, that
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if there was anything that
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coincided clearly with what the
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Bible said in all aspects of
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life, was the Seventh-day
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Adventist Church.
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>> So, Dr. Sloan, you
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mentioned that you were studying
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natural medicine. How did you
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get into natural medicine?
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>> Well, you know, I got such
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amazing results in my own health
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that I thought -- and of course
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this is with all-natural
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remedies -- I thought that if
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this can help me so much, how
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many other people can be helped?
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And I really feel that God
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inspired me by that. I went
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thinking, "Well, maybe I should
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open a health food store." And
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we tried on several attempts and
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the Lord shut the door on those.
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And I remember we were visiting
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relatives in Europe, Erika's
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side of the family, and on the
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plane, again I broke down and I
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prayed, "Lord, I cannot get
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anything right. I try this, I
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try that, but I'm going to just
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totally put my life and the
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direction my life is going to
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take in Your hands." And it was
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very clear after I did that that
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the Lord wanted me to go into
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the profession of, you know,
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being a natural doctor and
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helping people with their
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health.
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>> And now today you have a very
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successful clinic that you are
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running and that you're working
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with and that's just amazing.
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And I believe you work there,
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too, Erika.
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>> Yes. Yes, that's right. David
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and I have worked together for
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many, many years. But I really
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believe that God has given David
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the gift of healing. He gives
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him the wisdom to know what to
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do with all these different
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cases. People have been many,
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many places before they've come
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to David. Often he's the last
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resort with their health issue,
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that they just, they haven't
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gotten the results that they
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need. And I just have seen it
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over the years so many times
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that he knows the right thing to
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recommend for people. It's God's
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doing, it is.
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>> And probably your experience
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of going through all of that,
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you know what they're going
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through and you have an
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intuitive understanding of what
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to share, you know, from
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personal experience. And so you
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can relate to that. And that can
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be very helpful just to make the
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patient understand, hey, Doctor
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understands what I'm going
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through and he really
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understands how to treat me. And
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that gives them a lot of
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confidence in what you treat
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them with.
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>> Yeah, I wouldn't wish what
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I've had to go through on
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anyone, but as it turns out, God
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has used that as a huge blessing
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in order for me to help other
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people. Yes, very true.
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>> Do you find opportunities to
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share your faith?
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>> I'm surprised at how many
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times people will say -- because
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I don't make any bones about the
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fact that I'm a Christian, you
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know, in my office it's very
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clear that I'm a Christian. And
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in the field that I am in, it's
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steeped in a lot of other types
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of philosophies and a lot of it
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Eastern Thought and Mysticism
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and things like that. And so the
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fact that I'm a different kind
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of natural practitioner than
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what they may be used to, makes
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them sit up and pay attention
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and I think that there's a lot
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of times that people will say
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things that I know that I have
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been an influence on them as to
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the Christian life.
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>> Yes, yes.
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>> And that's rewarding and I'm
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sure that in heaven I may find
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that there's many others, too,
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that are there perhaps because
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they had an experience with
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their health and with the help
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that I've been able to help them
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with in order to bring them into
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a relationship with Christ.
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That's my prayer.
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>> Yeah. I'm reminded of a song,
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Stand Up, Stand Up For Jesus .
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And when we do, you know, He
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works through us. And as you
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said you make no bones about it,
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you are unashamedly a Christian
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and we're going actually to
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listen to that song. This song
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was recorded in Wartburg in
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Germany, the famous castle where
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Martin Luther worked out of. And
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so let's listen to that song
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right now.
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¤¤¤
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¤ Stand up, stand up for Jesus,
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¤ Ye soldiers of the cross;
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¤ Lift high His royal banner,
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¤ It must not suffer loss.
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¤ From victory unto victory
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¤ His army shall He lead,
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¤ Till every foe is vanquished,
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¤ And Christ is Lord indeed.
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¤¤¤
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¤ Stand up, stand up for Jesus,
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¤ Stand in His strength alone;
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¤ The arm of
flesh will fail you,
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¤ Ye dare not trust your own.
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¤ Put on the gospel armour,
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¤ And, watching unto prayer;
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¤ Where duty calls or danger,
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¤ Be never wanting there.
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¤¤¤
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¤ Stand up, stand up for Jesus,
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¤ The strife will not be long;
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¤ This day the noise of battle,
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¤ The next the victor's song.
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¤ To him that overcometh
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¤ A crown of life shall be;
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¤ Be with the King of Glory
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¤ Shall reign eternally.
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¤ Stand up, stand up, stand up!
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>> I love that song:  Stand Up,
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?and Up For Jesus . That's a
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courageous song and we are to
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follow the example of Jesus
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found right here in His word.
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The book of Luke, written by a
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doctor, Doctor Luke, and he
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wrote in Luke chapter 2 verse
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52, about the life of Jesus that
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He continued to "increase in
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wisdom and in stature and in
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favour with God and man." So
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that's a complete, holistic
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growth. And so, friends, we have
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an offer for you today it is
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The Promise of Peace.
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?d here is the information:
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>> To request today's offer,
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just log onto
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www.ItIsWrittenCanada.ca. If you
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prefer, you may call toll free
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at 1-888-CALL-IIW. And thank you
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for your prayer requests and
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.
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>> So, Dr. Sloan and Erika,
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thank you so much for joining us
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today. It was an absolute
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blessing to have you here and to
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hear your testimony and what God
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has done in your life so, Dr.
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Sloan, can I ask you to have a
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word of prayer for us please.
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>> Certainly. Dear Father in
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heaven, we are so grateful for
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the many blessings that You pour
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out upon us. And if there is
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anyone who is viewing this
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program that is not sure about
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the Lord in their life and where
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they're going, I pray that You
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will give them the assurance
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that You are always with them
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and that as they give their
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heart to You sincerely, that
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they repent of the sins they
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have committed and seek You and
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Your will in their lives that
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You will unerringly lead them in
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the way that they should go.
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Thank You for the promises,
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Lord, that You have given us and
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be with us now as we close up
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our program for today. In Jesus'
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name, amen.
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>> So, friends, thank you for
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joining us again on It Is
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Written Canada. Remember the
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words of Jesus where He says,
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"It is written, man shall not
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live by bread alone, but by
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every word that proceeds out of
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the mouth of God."
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