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¤¤ >> Welcome,
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and thank you for joining
us on "It Is Written: Canada."
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One of my favorite
verses when I was younger is in
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Proverbs 3:5, where it says,
"Trust" -- "Trust in the Lord
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with all your heart and lean
not on your own understanding.
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Verse 8 says, "This will
bring health to your body
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and nourishment to your bones."
So we're going to be talking
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about health today,
and we are really honored
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to have with us Dr. George Cho,
who's a naturopathic doctor,
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and he practices
lifestyle medicine.
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>> And we are also honored to
have his brother, Daniel, who is
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the president of a nonprofit
organization called Lifestyle Is
Medicine. So, George and Daniel,
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welcome here on "It Is Written"
this morning, and as you can
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see, George and Daniel are
identical twins. >> Thank you
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for having us. >> Yeah. So,
thank you for coming in, and
people are always interested
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in their health, and I'm
very interested in my health,
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but I want to talk about you,
first of all, being identical
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twins. Very interesting. Do you
ever get mistaken for being one
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another? Have you had that
growing up? Did you ever have
chances where you could
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actually, say, get away with
going to each other's classes
for each other or maybe driving
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on each other's driver's
licenses or things like that?
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>> None of that. I
think that's what people
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like to think, but
we never went to each
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other's classes or anything
like that, but people do get us
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mixed up. That's for sure, yeah.
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>> Mm-hmm. >> Our
teachers would get us
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mixed up all
the time. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> We were often
in separate classes,
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and, as twins, it's fun,
but you have to be mindful
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that people can think
that you're the other.
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>> Yes. >> And that
can cause some problems.
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Like, if a teacher who -- like,
George's teacher walks by me and
I don't acknowledge
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that teacher, he might get upset
at George, thinking that George
is being rude, when,
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in fact, it's just me not
knowing who they are. So just
things like that...
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>> Right. >> ...makes
life interesting as twins.
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>> Right. And so a patient goes
to Dr. George Cho, and he sees
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you, and you don't even know
this patient. That must be kind
of odd. >> That's right.
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When we have health events,
sometimes when they attend,
there can be mix-ups.
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>> In fact, I had a patient
recently at one of the churches,
and Daniel had walked by,
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and he didn't see my patient.
She was greeting. >> Uh-huh.
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>> And then when I walked by,
obviously, I recognized her, and
she said, you know,
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"So a doc doesn't say hi to his
patients?" And I was like, "Oh.
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I'm sorry. I think you met my
brother." So then she laughed,
as well, as she realized what
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was going on. >> Yeah, that can
be confusing. >> Yeah. >> So you
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grew up together. You were so
close together, and you're both
pursuing a course of lifestyle
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medicine. >> Yes. >> So
tell us a little bit about that.
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>> Well, right now, we run two
lifestyle clinics in Toronto,
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where we focus on lifestyle
medicine and naturopathic
medicine, so we're educating
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patients on how right eating,
right nutrition, exercise, sleep
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-- these health behaviors -- can
really help them with conditions
like type 2 diabetes, weight,
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hypertension, and so forth, so
that's what we do right now in
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the clinic. >> Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
>> And Lifestyle is Medicine is
not-for-profit, where,
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outside the clinic setting, we
provide our community-based
programs that teach people
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about the principles of
lifestyle medicine so they can
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apply in their own lives and to
prevent and reverse different
disease. So, we have different
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community-based programs that
involve plant-based eating and
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education, so that's what we do
at Lifestyle Is Medicine. >> Mm.
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>> So, not too many health
professionals focus on lifestyle
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medicine, so what made you two
interested in this whole concept
of lifestyle medicine?
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>> Yeah, so, I think it really
began with our mother. When we
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were very young, she had some
G.I. issues. >> Okay. >> We're
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not exactly sure what it was. >>
G.I.? We're talking about your
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stomach, gastrointestinal tract,
your gut, right? >> Right. Yeah,
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there were some digestive
issues. >> Digestive issue,
okay. >> But what happened was
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a man came to our door. He was
selling Christian books, and he
shared with her some
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very simple health principles
on how she can get better, so
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things like plant-based eating.
>> Mm-hmm. >> And so she tried
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that, and she actually got
better. >> Mm! >> So you see
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here a very simple lifestyle
change led to, essentially, a
reversal of a health condition,
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which is basically what
lifestyle medicine is all about.
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>> Mm-hmm. >> So that's sort of
our first experience with the
power of lifestyle medicine.
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>> Mm-hmm. So, she got
better. How did she change --
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Like, did that change influence
you? >> Well, of course, like
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any mom, if something works for
you, you're going to want your
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kids to -- >> Exactly. >>
Because we were really young. We
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were, like, 8 -- 8 years old, 9
years old. So, our parents -- at
the time, they owned a
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convenience store, so we had --
We were not eating good at all.
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It was, like, chocolate
bars, chips, junk food almost on
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demand. >> Okay. >> You know, so
our diet was pretty much the
standard -- American standard
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diet. >> Yes. >> But when
she changed to whole foods,
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plant-based, not snacking, she
got better. So then she started
to implement some of that in the
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home, so then that was kind of
our first introduction to a
major lifestyle change,
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and we felt we also got
better, as well. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> We didn't like it at first,
but, growing up, you realize, it
does make a difference.
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>> So let's explore that.
So eating what you call "junk
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food," okay -- how does that
influence your overall health
now that you know a whole lot
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more? I mean, you're practicing
lifestyle medicine. You're
teaching that to others.
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You're helping your patients to
get better, as well. So, how
does that impact us?
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Can you kind of inform us,
give us an education on that? >>
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Well, if you look a the standard
American diet or the standard
Canadian diet, it's high in
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processed food, high in
animal products. >> Okay. >> So,
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processed foods -- they contain
a lot of sugar, a lot of
additives, as well, that can
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promote inflammation in the
body, alright? And they're also
very nutrient-deficient, as
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well. >> Okay. >> Right?
So you're pretty much eating
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empty calories, in many cases,
which leads to weight gain and
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so forth. >> Right. >> When
it comes to animal products,
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people often don't realize
that it's very high in saturated
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fats, which many people know
is not good for you. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> But also, when it comes to
red meat and processed meat,
which we used to eat a lot of,
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these are also
carcinogenic, as well. >> Mm.
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>> So they drive cancer, drive
inflammation, and when you drive
inflammation in the body,
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you can drive chronic disease.
>> Mm. >> So this is the reason
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why we see such an epidemic
today of inflammatory conditions
like type 2 diabetes,
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hypertension, heart disease.
Even Alzheimer's can be linked
to inflammation that's happening
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in the body, so -- >>
Okay. >> And we had to realize
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that it's the food that
we're eating that's driving this
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inflammation, which then leads
to chronic disease in the
future. >> Okay. So, let's
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explore that idea of
inflammation -- inflammation in
your body, Why is that
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unhealthy for your body? So,
you're eating something. Say you
eat a chocolate bar.
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>> Mm-hmm. >> That's creating
inflammation in your body.
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What does that do to you?
>> Right. That's a really good
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question. So, inflammation is
simply your immune system is
acting, right? So say if you get
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a cold, you know, you got an
infection, so your immune system
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is going to act to deal with the
infection. But what happens is
-- What's supposed to happen
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is that it's supposed to turn
off or kind of tone down. >>
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Yes. >> So it's supposed to act,
then kind of tone down, right?
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So, that's called "acute
inflammation," and that's
normal. That's healthy.
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>> Yes. Okay. >> What happens
with chronic diseases is that --
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It's a process
called "subclinical chronic
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inflammation," or "systemic
inflammation." So, basically,
instead of inflammation --
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Instead of your immune system
turning on and then kind of
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toning down, it's constantly
there... >> Mm-hmm. >> ...not a
high level, alright?
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So, for instance, if you get hit
in the face, you could bruise
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up. That's inflammation. >>
That's inflammation. >> Yeah,
that's inflammation,
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so it's very clear. You
can see it. You can feel it.
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>> Right. >> A fever,
as well, right? >> Yes.
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>> But this is subclinical, so
you really can't detect it.
There could be no overt signs,
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right? You don't get symptoms
from subclinical inflammation,
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but it's constantly
there. >> Okay. >> So when your
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immune system is not turning --
switching off, then it leads to
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collateral damage. >> Ah, I see.
>> Right? So then you start
damaging your organs.
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You damage your liver. You
damage your pancreas, things
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like that. You damage your
-- the blood vessels. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> Right? So this then
leads to chronic diseases.
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>> Right. >> So this is why
-- And the foods that we eat
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kind of adds fire to the flame,
so it's constantly there, but if
you switch your nutrition
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to more whole foods and
plant-based, then that actually
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fights inflammation. >> Okay.
>> So, our Western lifestyle
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right now that's very high in
processed food and animal foods
is constantly feeding
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that inflammation. But the
dangerous thing is that most
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people don't realize it because,
again, you don't see symptoms.
Only until later on,
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when you hit your 50s, 60s, and
so forth, when you start seeing
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the diseases. >> So, you've been
dealing with that all along.
It's been in your body.
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>> Oh, that's right. People
don't realize that the
foundation for type 2 diabetes,
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heart disease, and so forth
is actually laid quite early in
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life. Yeah. Yeah. So this is
why nutrition is very important,
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yeah -- eating healthy. >>
So, early in life, we're talking
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about our children and when they
are children. So when you were
children, your mother made
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that change for you. >> Oh,
that's right. Yeah. If we hadn't
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seen that change, we would be in
a very different state right
now. That's for sure, yeah.
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>> Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. >> And you
mentioned that, at first, you
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didn't like it. Like, you didn't
like the change of food because
when you eat junk food,
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it tastes good. >> Yeah.
And they flavor it and season
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all those processed foods in
such a way that it's appealing,
and it makes you feel good
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while you're eating it, but,
obviously, afterwards, you don't
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feel the greatest. Now your mom
introduces this, and it's a big
transition, and so you
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mentioned you didn't like it.
How long did it take you to
become fully plant-based
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or to just -- to have that
switch to that lifestyle and to
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stay with it? >> Mm-hmm.
>> Yeah. Obviously, it was a
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process, so we became fully
plant-based when we were around
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16 years old. >> Mm-hmm. >> So
it was sort of a process, so we
first gave up meat,
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like beef, pork, and then, later
on, fish. The last to go, I
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would say, was dairy and
eggs and cheese. We really liked
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cheese. >> Mm-hmm. >> Mm-hmm. >>
And cheese also has some
addictive properties, so --
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So those came later. So, yeah,
it was a very long process, but
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we're happy we made the switch.
>> Mm-hmm. So it is a difficult
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transition? >> It's a
transition. >> Yeah. I remember
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when Rene and I started going
vegetarian, we all had meat --
you know, we'd all have a piece
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of chicken on our plate,
and then we heard that it was
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healthier for us. We went to Dr.
Diehl -- his programs. Do you
use Dr. Diehl's programs
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in what you do -- Dr. Hans
Diehl? He did the CHIP Program.
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>> His book was very
instrumental. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> We got it when we were young
through our mom, and... >> Oh, I
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see. >> ...we actually read
it as young teens. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> And that really kind of put
the science to the -- >> Yeah.
And we started seeing
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this was the optimum way to
go, but it was, like, "This is
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really hard." And so instead of
all of us having a piece of
chicken, we would chop up one
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piece of chicken and put it in
as kind of a stir-fry, and,
eventually, the meat kind
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of fell off our plate. >>
Mm-hmm. >> And we just focused
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on the good stuff. >>
Yeah. >> And I think most people
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are aware of that, that healthy
eating goes in the direction
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of eating plant-based. >>
Plant-based, yeah. >> It's much
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more healthy for you. >> But,
you know, I think it's important
to, I think, recognize
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that I think it's better to
start early. So I think, for us,
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initially, it was very annoying,
kind of, for us to not be eating
this kind of stuff.
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But then I wouldn't say it
was very difficult. Like, it was
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quite a smooth transition.
>> Mm-hmm. >> So I think for
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parents that are listening, it
might be -- I think it's wise to
start early with the kids
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because they are going to just
eat whatever mom and dad puts on
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the table, right? You're more
moldable when you're young, so I
think we really credit our mom
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for doing what she did, because
if we started later -- like,
we're in the early 30s -- I
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think it would be much harder.
>> Yes. Yeah. >> And, of course,
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kids might complain, but,
ultimately, they kind of get
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used to it. >> They get used to
it. Yeah. The earlier you can
get them used to it, the better.
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>> She never forced us, either.
She never pressured us. >>
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Uh-huh. >> We kind of made
the switch ourselves, so... >>
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Mm-hmm. >> That's great. I think
the hardest thing for me --
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We're talking about food now and
about, you know, eating healthy
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food, plant-based. I think the
hardest transition for me --
and, also, I see with our
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children -- is drinking enough
water. >> Mm-hmm. >> I don't
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think people drink enough water,
right? >> Yeah. >> Mm-hmm,
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mm-hmm. >> And so what are your
thoughts on that? >> Well, the
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simple test that we tell our
patients in the clinic is to
look at the color of the urine.
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>> Mm-hmm. >> So it
should be kind of a pale color.
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If it's, like, bright yellow,
you're dehydrated. >> Oh, okay.
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>> I don't think,
scientifically, you can say,
like, everyone has to drink
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eight glasses or six glasses.
It's all individual, and, also,
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there's water in the foods that
we eat. So a lot of people
actually get hydrated from the
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foods that you consume,
right? >> Mm-hmm. >> So I think
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just a a good litmus test
is look at your urine color. >>
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Mm-hmm. >> And if it's bright
yellow, then, definitely, you
probably are dehydrated.
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>> Yeah. >> But if it's pale,
then you're probably doing okay.
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>> Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. >> Oh, that's
good to know. >> But you're
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right. We definitely need
to drink more water. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> Yeah. >> So, all of these
things, as I'm seeing it -- they
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work in terms of your
circulation. Inflammation will
reduce your circulation, right?
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And you were saying inflammation
in the system is going to lead
to chronic problems
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in the long-term. And so
improving our circulation --
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What else would you recommend
for improving a person's
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circulation? >> Well, one of the
most important things is
exercise... >> Mm-hmm.
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>> ...particularly aerobic
exercise, which means exercise
that's going to really
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get your heart beating. >>
Mm-hmm. >> So that's going to
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really help with circulation,
and, right now, the Canadian
guidelines recommends
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a minimum of 150 minutes per
week of moderate intensity, so
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that's about 21 minutes per
day. >> Per day. >> And moderate
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intensity would be enough to
make you breathe harder and to
sweat a little bit.
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>> Mm-hmm. >> And vigorous
is, obviously, you're breathing
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hard, and you're sweating a lot,
right? So, for instance, a brisk
walk would be considered
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moderate. >> Okay. >> So, for
our listeners, just getting out
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there for a brisk walk for 21
minutes every day would pretty
much help people meet the
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Canadian physical activity
guidelines, which is strongly
linked with improved health
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outcomes. >> Right. >> So
something basic like that is
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going to be good for overall
health and improve circulation,
like you mentioned. >> Right,
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right. Getting out for a walk.
We used to do that with our kids
when they were little --
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just get out and go for a walk.
>> That's right. >> And now that
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they are, you know, in their
teens, they're used to it, you
know? >> That's right, yeah.
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>> They'll -- "Oh, I feel like
going for a walk" -- you know,
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go for a walk. >> It's important
to point out, though, that this
would -- This is not, like, a
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stroll. >> Yes. >> So to meet
the guidelines, it would have to
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be kind of a brisk walk...
>> Brisk walk, yes. >> ...to at
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least get your heartbeat up a
little bit, would be what we're
looking at. Of course, any type
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of walking is good, but walking
the dog, for us, wouldn't really
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count, at least when it comes to
the guidelines. >> Yes, yes. >>
But definitely moving more
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and so forth is really
important. Plant-based nutrition
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and exercise are the two things
that we definitely get almost
all of our patients to try
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to do in the clinic, yeah. >>
This sounds like we're talking
about a NEW person --
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nutrition, exercise, water. [
Both chuckle ] So, Dr. Cho, what
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else can you do to -- three
things -- improve your
circulation, reduce
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inflammation, and improve your
immune system? >> Mm-hmm. Well,
circulation is really
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exercise, but when it comes to
inflammation and your immune
system, there's other important
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things -- for instance, getting
adequate rest. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> So, when we're resting, your
body is repairing itself, where
there's good evidence
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to suggest that those who are
not getting enough sleep -- they
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have high levels of inflammation
in the body. In fact, they'd
done studies on night-shift
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workers where they've shown that
that's actually carcinogenic. >>
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Wow. >> That's actually listed
as a carcinogen. Can you believe
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that? >> Wow. Not getting enough
sleep? >> Night-shift work.
00:18:04.11\00:18:06.82
>> Night-shift work, yes, yes.
>> Like nurses and so forth. >>
00:18:06.82\00:18:10.59
It can cause you to get cancer?
>> Yeah, that's actually listed
as a carcinogen, so rest
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is very, very important. And
there's no exact amount that
everyone needs to get.
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>> Right. >> Everyone says eight
hours. That's actually not true.
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But we what we tell our patients
is when you wake up in the
morning, you should feel rested.
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>> Right. >> And throughout
the day, you should not be
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all drained and stuff, right?
So, it's going to vary for
00:18:31.54\00:18:34.84
different people, but getting
enough rest is really good, and,
also, napping, as well, is
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actually very helpful, as well.
A short nap is okay, so getting
adequate rest is very important,
00:18:38.65\00:18:44.95
and, also, getting sunlight, as
well, is very important. Here in
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Canada, it's a little bit
harder, but getting out there
and getting sunshine is very
00:18:48.62\00:18:53.09
good for your mood and also very
good for vitamin D levels and so
00:18:53.09\00:18:57.03
forth. So, we'd encourage that.
Another important thing is
something called "temperance"
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or "self-control"... >>
Mm-hmm. >> ...or "moderation."
00:19:01.94\00:19:07.14
So, a lot of people, they say,
you know, "We eat everything in
moderation," which is false.
00:19:07.14\00:19:11.81
Nobody believes in that, because
everyone draws a line somewhere.
00:19:11.81\00:19:15.08
>> Yes. >> Alright? So, for
instance, in Korea, people eat,
00:19:15.08\00:19:18.29
like, dog meat. >> Oh. >> I
don't think there's any Canadian
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that would ever want to eat
that. >> Won't eat that dog meat
00:19:20.79\00:19:23.53
in moderation. >> No, right? So,
basically, when people say that,
00:19:23.53\00:19:27.73
no one actually believes that.
Everyone draws a line somewhere.
>> That's right, yeah.
00:19:27.73\00:19:31.07
>> So what we tell our patients
is our definition of moderation
is "get rid of all foods that
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are detrimental to
health and eat healthy foods in
00:19:35.07\00:19:38.67
moderation." >> Okay. >> Right?
So that's what we tell people to
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do, and so even with healthy
food, you have to eat that in
moderation. >> Right.
00:19:41.78\00:19:44.55
>> So even plant-based foods,
you can eat too much of it. >>
00:19:44.55\00:19:48.58
Right. >> It can be indulgent,
so that could drive inflammation
and so forth, right?
00:19:48.58\00:19:54.29
>> Mm-hmm. >> So we tell
people to eat healthy foods in
00:19:54.29\00:19:58.29
moderation. Get rid of all the
foods that are very detrimental
00:19:58.29\00:20:01.50
to your health, so practicing
that is also very, very
important, as well. >> Mm-hmm,
00:20:01.50\00:20:05.17
mm-hmm. This is an education
process, you know? We're talking
00:20:05.17\00:20:08.97
about it now, but people have
access to more information today
through online, through,
00:20:08.97\00:20:15.58
you know, various sources
where they can learn and educate
00:20:15.58\00:20:19.35
themselves. So there's no one
magic bullet that's going to
eliminate all of these health
00:20:19.35\00:20:25.92
problems. It is really
multifactorial, right? >> Yeah,
00:20:25.92\00:20:29.09
it's a combination of all these
factors that come together,
yeah. >> Right, right.
00:20:29.09\00:20:32.33
>> So, these are principles and
habits that can have a profound
00:20:32.33\00:20:37.53
impact on our lives and change
us, and they're very simple,
like drinking water,
00:20:37.53\00:20:42.24
getting enough rest, you know,
getting -- eating plant-based
00:20:42.24\00:20:47.81
foods, and so it's very simple.
>> Mm-hmm. >> Yeah. That's
00:20:47.81\00:20:51.55
what's amazing about lifestyle
medicine. Like, lifestyle
medicine is about how these very
00:20:51.55\00:20:54.82
simple lifestyle changes can not
only help prevent disease but
also treat and reverse.
00:20:54.82\00:21:00.16
>> Wow. >> So everyone
knows that these things are good
00:21:00.16\00:21:02.16
for you, like, exercising and
eating more plant-based, but
these things can actually be
00:21:02.16\00:21:06.59
used as a treatment modality
to reverse many of our leading
00:21:06.59\00:21:12.30
chronic diseases, such as
diabetes, heart disease, et
00:21:12.30\00:21:15.44
cetera. >> Wow. >> So it's a
different way of thinking about
it because when people think
00:21:15.44\00:21:17.91
of medicine, they think pills,
tablets, injections, surgeries,
00:21:17.91\00:21:22.31
and lab tests. >> Yes. >> And
that's what medicine is, but
we're saying when you
00:21:22.31\00:21:25.18
eat well, that's medicine. When
you're going for a run, that's
00:21:25.18\00:21:28.72
medicine. When you're sleeping
well, that's medicinal. >> Wow.
00:21:28.72\00:21:31.69
>> So you're adding these
lifestyle behaviors along with
00:21:31.69\00:21:36.49
pills and tablets, injections,
surgeries, and lab tests as
medicine. >> So you're putting
00:21:36.49\00:21:42.06
it more into the hands of
the individual, that they are
00:21:42.06\00:21:45.43
responsible for their own
health. >> That's right. >>
Lifestyle medicine empowers
00:21:45.43\00:21:48.37
the patient and people to really
see that they can take charge of
00:21:48.37\00:21:53.17
their own health. >> Right. >>
And so that's another thing
that's really great
00:21:53.17\00:21:55.78
about lifestyle medicine. >>
How does that connect with your
00:21:55.78\00:22:00.85
spiritual health, your own
personal spiritual journey? >>
00:22:00.85\00:22:03.75
Mm-hmm. I'm glad you brought
that up because I think a very
important aspect of health
00:22:03.75\00:22:07.22
is also the spiritual component
because we are spiritual beings.
00:22:07.22\00:22:12.59
>> Yes. >> So when our mother --
when she discovered health, the
individual that shared these
00:22:12.59\00:22:19.80
health principles with her, they
also -- She shared about God and
00:22:19.80\00:22:25.97
spirituality and introduced
us to the Seventh-Day Adventist
00:22:25.97\00:22:29.11
church. >> Mm-hmm. >> So that
also started us on a personal
spiritual journey of getting to
00:22:29.11\00:22:34.12
know God better, getting to read
the Bible more, and -- Yeah,
00:22:34.12\00:22:38.62
yeah. >> Mm-hmm. So you started
by reading the Bible. You were
00:22:38.62\00:22:43.49
young. Your mother -- how did
she share that with you? I just
00:22:43.49\00:22:47.23
want to explore that a little
bit. >> She introduced us to
00:22:47.23\00:22:53.30
books like -- Of course, since
we were young, it was, like,
children's books. >> Uh-huh.
00:22:53.30\00:22:57.54
>> So we got familiar with the
Bible stories that helped us get
00:22:57.54\00:23:01.88
to know the Bible a little bit
more. Then we moved on to
listening to sermons
00:23:01.88\00:23:08.12
by individuals like Doug
Batchelor and so forth. And so
00:23:08.12\00:23:13.46
we would watch his evangelistic
meetings while eating dinner. So
we'd watch him on rerun.
00:23:13.46\00:23:19.89
We'd watch it over and over
again, and -- >> These are all
00:23:19.89\00:23:23.43
VHS. >> VHS, yes.
>> Video. >> Yeah.
00:23:23.43\00:23:25.70
We'd sit there watching as we're
eating dinner. >> And people can
00:23:25.70\00:23:28.54
watch those online now. >>
That's right, yes. >> "Amazing
00:23:28.54\00:23:31.67
Facts." >> "Amazing Facts."
Okay. >> So that really
introduced us to the Christian
00:23:31.67\00:23:37.08
faith in greater detail and
also the Seventh-Day Adventist
00:23:37.08\00:23:42.05
message, as well. So then we
became Seventh-Day Adventists at
the age of 15 or 16.
00:23:42.05\00:23:48.09
>> Mm-hmm. So, God
really cares about our health,
00:23:48.09\00:23:53.16
and we're going to listen to a
song called "Does Jesus Care?"
And really important words,
00:23:53.16\00:24:01.24
so let's listen to
that together right now.
00:24:01.24\00:24:04.37
[ "Does Jesus
Really Care?" plays ]
00:24:06.37\00:24:10.31
>> ¤ Does Jesus care ¤ When my
heart is pained ¤ Too deeply for
00:24:30.50\00:24:39.11
mirth or song? ¤ ¤ When the
burdens press ¤ And the cares
00:24:39.11\00:24:48.78
distress ¤ And the way
grows weary and long? ¤
00:24:48.78\00:24:55.32
>> ¤ Does Jesus care ¤ When
my way is dark ¤ With a nameless
00:25:02.13\00:25:12.07
dread or fear? ¤ ¤ As the
daylight fades ¤ Into deep night
00:25:12.07\00:25:21.25
shades ¤ Does He care enough
to be near? ¤ >> ¤ Oh, yes, He
00:25:21.25\00:25:30.23
cares ¤ I know He cares ¤ His
heart is touched with my grief ¤
00:25:30.23\00:25:39.27
¤ When the days are weary ¤ The
long nights dreary ¤ I know my
00:25:39.27\00:25:53.08
Savior cares >> ¤ Does Jesus
care ¤ When I've tried and
failed ¤ To resist some
00:26:03.36\00:26:13.07
temptation strong? ¤ >> ¤ When
in my deep grief ¤ I find no
00:26:13.07\00:26:21.98
relief ¤ Though my tears flow
all the night long? ¤ >> ¤ Does
00:26:21.98\00:26:31.09
Jesus care ¤ When I've
said goodbye ¤ To the dearest on
00:26:31.09\00:26:39.89
Earth to me? ¤ >> ¤ And my sad
heart aches ¤ Till it nearly
breaks ¤ Is it aught to Him?
00:26:39.89\00:26:48.57
¤ Does He see? >> ¤ Oh,
yes, He cares >> ¤ Yes, He cares
00:26:48.57\00:26:55.14
>> ¤ I know He cares ¤ His
heart is touched with my grief ¤
00:26:55.14\00:27:04.25
¤ When the days are weary ¤ The
long night dreary ¤ I know my
00:27:04.25\00:27:20.60
Savior cares [ Song ends ]
00:27:43.06\00:27:45.13
>> Oh, yes, Jesus does
care. He cares about our health,
00:27:45.16\00:27:48.16
as well. One of the big problems
00:27:48.16\00:27:49.80
is diabetes, and we would
like to help you with that.
00:27:49.80\00:27:53.30
>> So our offer for today
is called "Diabetes Undone,"
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and if you would
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please just look at the
information on the screen below.
00:27:59.27\00:28:03.24
>> So, George and Daniel, thank
you very much for joining us.
00:28:03.28\00:28:06.98
Let's close with a word of
prayer, and I ask you, Daniel,
00:28:06.98\00:28:10.52
to pray for us. >> Sure, let's
pray. Eternal Father, we thank
00:28:10.52\00:28:15.19
You so much that You care about
our health and You've shared
with us how we can be healthier.
00:28:15.19\00:28:20.46
I pray that each one of us, and
our listeners, that we can live
00:28:20.46\00:28:24.87
a healthier life, that we can
serve and honor You better. We
pray in Jesus' name. Amen.
00:28:24.87\00:28:30.07
>> Amen. >> So, friends,
the words of Jesus really
00:28:30.07\00:28:33.94
give us encouragement as He
says, "It is written, 'Man shall
00:28:33.94\00:28:37.75
not live by bread alone but by
every word that proceeds out of
the mouth of God.'"
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¤¤ ¤¤
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