>> Welcome and thank
you for joining us on
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"It Is Written Canada."
Today, we are in front of the
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home of a man here
in Pickering, Ontario.
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His name is Vas Pejcinovski.
It was one spring day in March
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2018. It was a very cold and
cloudy day. And he was struck
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with a triple tragedy. His wife,
Krissy, his youngest daughter,
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by the name of Vanna, and his
son, Roy, were murdered. What a
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horrible, horrible tragedy. And
how is he supposed to deal with
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all of that? Right after all of
this tragedy, he had to deal
with his own grief.
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He also had to console his
eldest daughter, who is the only
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surviving family member, by the
name of Victoria. But he was not
alone. He had friends and family
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who were around him -- a
community of people who stood by
his side to support him.
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>> Besides his family and
friends, Vas received incredible
support from people that he
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didn't even know at the
time of the murder of his family
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members. God started speaking to
Vas Pejcinovski and led him to a
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loving church where he was
treated with incredible love,
support, and kindness.
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Not only did Vas become a
born-again baptized Christian,
but he somehow managed
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to forgive the accused killer
and murderer of his wife and two
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children. >> I have no idea how
he did that. How was Vas able to
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find it in his heart to forgive
someone who murdered his family
and took them away?
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Well, today we're going to let
Vas tell his own story. And so
come with me inside as
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we talk to Vas Pejcinovski.
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い い >> It
opens your mouth like
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this. >> You
just open this. >> Oh.
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い い [ Indistinct cheering ]
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>> Oi! Go Roy!
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>> So, Vas, thank you for
inviting us into your home.
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What we're going to talk
about is very heart-wrenching.
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And I know from talking to you
that this is -- you know, this
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is something that's very
personal, and I do respect you,
so I don't want to talk,
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you know, about things that
might be too sensitive. I want
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to kind of go back in time,
like, before you met your wife,
before you even had a family,
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and talk about your childhood,
talk about what happened in the
past. What kind of a person
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were you before this? >> Yeah.
Different person from who I am
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today, that's for sure. Great
childhood growing up in the city
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of Toronto, Greektown. Happy
family. They provided great.
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But living in a city, especially
near the downtown core, you do
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surround yourself with, you
know, people that are into --
get into some trouble and
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mischief. And as I grew up, I
found myself following that
path, chasing girls around,
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started to experiment with drugs
and drinking, thinking about
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myself, thinking about the next
party. So it was -- it was a
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tough ride. Experienced a lot of
low points in my life, a lot of
times that I really did not like
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myself the next day. >> Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. >> And tell us, Vas,
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did your life change after
you married Krissy and had your
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three beautiful children? >> I
would say five years... four to
five years into our
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marriages where I slowly started
leaving my past behind me and
becoming a better father
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and husband, the best of my
ability at that time. So, yeah,
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it did change. It did take some
time, though. There was pretty
big hooks sunk into me with the
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drugs, and it was sort of hard
to -- to let go of right away.
It wasn't immediate.
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It was a slow release, I
guess you could say. >> Uh-huh.
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And now you're married
and you're moving in a good
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direction. Was there a pivotal
time when things really changed
for you? >> Yeah. I guess I'll
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give you a little bit more
backdrop in our -- in our
marriage and who I was at the
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time. So, throughout our
marriage, Krissy was a really
good woman. But me as a person
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at that point, there was
something wrong with me. And it
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might have been, after all the
years of what I'd gone through
in the sinful living
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and not really fixing anything,
not realizing I had to fix
anything with my past,
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you know, I began to be a
distant husband. She reached out
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to me with a lot of love. There
was times where I would -- over
the smallest thing,
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I would blow up and I would yell
and I would -- words would come
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out of my mouth that were just
so hurtful, now that I look back
at it. And it didn't even bother
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me at the time. And it was
just sort of the person I was.
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But, again, very prideful. In
2014... I became aware that she
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was having an affair. That
devastated me. >> I'm sure.
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>> It absolutely devastated
me. >> Yeah. >> And I think more
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because my pride and realizing,
"How could she even consider
another man or look at it?
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Look, I provided a beautiful
home. I provide a roof, food on
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the table." And, you know,
these silly, prideful, earthly
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thoughts of -- of thinking I was
being a good husband or thinking
I was being a good father.
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And, really, it was probably the
worst four months of my life.
The pain, the tears, the hurt,
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the feelings of revenge and,
"How am I gonna get back at her?
How am I gonna, you know, go
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through that?" I found myself
getting in my car at 11:00 at
night and driving on
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the highways up until 6:00 in
the morning, and just crying,
and just trying to -- to get rid
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of the pain that was inside
of me. There was a moment...
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I don't remember the exact day,
but there was a moment where I'm
still struggling with this,
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and -- and I just -- I call it
"I heard a voice," but I think
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it was more, now that I look
back, it was God speaking to my
heart. And the message basically
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said, "Look at yourself.
Look into the mirror." >> Yeah.
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>> Mm-hmm. >> You know?
"Really look at yourself."
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I started looking back at our
marriage, and I started looking
back at how I treated her
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and how I treated my kids and
how I treated people in general.
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And, you know, she was really
trying to make the family unit
work, and I pushed her away, and
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I understood that her... her
having the affair was a large
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part of my doing. And I remember
going to her and sitting her
down and telling her how sorry I
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was, how horrible of a husband I
was to her, how much she really
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loved me and how much she tried
to make the family unit work and
that I just pushed her
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away, and I asked her for her
forgiveness. I told her I was
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sorry. I had forgiven her by
that by that moment in my heart,
All the hurt and all the bad
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feelings and evil feelings,
revengeful feelings that I had
inside of me, the second I
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forgave her, that feeling just
lifted, and -- and the feeling
of peace and joy came upon me
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that was so powerful, I remember
seeing out loud to myself that
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day, "I am never gonna change
this feeling. No matter what
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happens to me in my life, I
never want to lose this feeling
of peace." >> That's incredible.
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>> Yeah. >> Where did you move
forward in your relationship
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with Krassimira? >> We had
already started the... the
process of separation.
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And at that point, even though
I'd forgiven, the trust was lost
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in the relationship. But saying
that, we started becoming very,
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very good friends. Like, our
friendship grew so much stronger
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after we both forgave each other
and -- and embraced and hugged
at the end. Knowing that we were
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both being open and totally
honest to one another, our
friendship grew to -- to a place
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that we've never seen before. In
that, we realized we had three
beautiful children.
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What we both realized was that,
"No matter what we do moving
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forward, we have to be on the
same page in raising these kids
together," even though we lived
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in separate homes, and that, you
know, when she needed to
discipline the kids and they
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were over here, I followed
through with those disciplines,
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and vice versa. Because,
in the end, it's all about the
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children, right? And we want to
try to guide them in the right
path. And that was a big step
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that we both agreed on, and it
allowed us to grow in our
relationship even further.
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>> So you could still remain
friends, even though you were
separated from her...
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>> Absolutely. >> ...and you
were able to raise those kids,
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as well, together. >> We became
on the same page, and we began
to laugh together again.
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And that was one of our big
strongholds on when we met, was
our friendship and our laughter.
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We would laugh about so much,
and that came back into our
lives after that point.
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So, it did change everything,
and it changed me as a person
from that day moving forward,
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as well. >> Vas, I think it's
such a beautiful gift that you
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and Krissy gave your children --
to be friends. And so, I think
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it's just wonderful that God
gave you this gift of
forgiveness, not just for you,
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but for Krissy, too, to forgive
you. And in doing that, so much
healing came about that you were
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able to provide that beautiful
gift for your children -- just,
you know, to let them
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know, "Mommy and Daddy are
okay," and I think it's just
wonderful, and so...
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>> The Lord is amazing.
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>> I've known Vas for
approximately 30 years now.
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I think he was
around 16 years old.
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He was best friends, actually,
with my brother-in-law, and
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they'd hang around at my
brother-in-law's house... >>
Which is my brother. >> ...quite
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often. That was the place where
everybody was hanging out. I'd
say, when I was about 40,
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40 years old, he was probably
30, 33, I think it was. And he
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came to me with a proposition
for business. And at the time, I
was working for Bell Canada, and
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I thought about it hard because
I had a pretty young family,
too, at the time, so it would be
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a big change to kind of
transition into your own
business, right? I took the
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chance. I took a leave of
absence from work, and here we
are now, 13, 14 years later
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of being business partners. >>
First met Vas when I lived with
my brother in our family
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home, and the core group that my
brother had still remains to
this day the core group.
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When he met with Krissy, that
was a beautiful thing. And I'm
older, so I was raising
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my family while he was just
starting his family. Then, when
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he propositioned Phil, it -- it
took him a long time to convince
Phil to start their business
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venture. And I'm glad that he
did come into our lives, because
he did change our lives.
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>> Vas wasn't very religious
at all. You know, he -- we never
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really talked about Jesus or
God. We never talked about
scripture. I would always read
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my Bible, right, from a young
age. I think it was -- I was 12
years old when I first came
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to know Christ, right? And three
years back, he started asking me
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-- Vas started asking me
questions about the Bible. And I
got a little curious
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as to why he was asking. And I'd
say, "Well, is anything going
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on?" The time with Krissy -- as
you know, he probably would've
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told you -- was that they
separated. And the reason why,
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the infidelity. And it kind of
hit him hard, and he was looking
for answers. After weeks of
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talking about scripture,
finally, he said, you know, "Do
you have a Bible?" And I did.
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I had my personal study Bible
that I have, and I gave him that
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Bible. And from there on end, it
was... I was amazed at how much
he grew in -- in the Lord.
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And how much it eased his heart.
>> They amazed me, because Vas
had invited us over
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for a barbecue with a bunch
of friends, and he said to me,
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"Oh, by the way, Krissy's
coming." And I'm like, "Really?"
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And he goes, "Yeah, G, we're
co-parenting, and it's
beautiful, and we're friends,
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and, you know, we respect
each other, and we agree to
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co-parent." And I thought it was
-- I was in shock, and I thought
it was a beautiful thing, and in
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walks Krissy, her usual smiling
self. And I'm like, "You guys
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are weird." Like, "What's going"
-- She goes, you know, "We love
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our children." And she goes,
"We're gonna co-parent." And I
thought that -- To me,
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that was a beautiful thing, and
I respected them both, and their
children were happy,
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and they saw both their parents
together and co-existing, and I
thought was beautiful.
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>> And to contrast that, we do
have other friends that are
going through the same
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situation of them... >>
It's horrible. >> ...involving
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children also, and it's
horrible. >> Horrible. >> You
got to let go of that
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anger. You have to let go of it.
You have to be able to forgive.
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Otherwise, it will eat
you. い It was early Wednesday,
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March 14th of 2018. I get a call
from Vasil, and I heard a little
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-- like he was frantic in a
sense, that, "Phil," he goes, "I
can't get in touch with --
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with anyone at the house. I
can't get in touch with Krissy.
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I can't get in touch with Roy or
Venallia." I actually asked him,
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"Is she maybe supposed to be at
work?" And he goes, "Well, I
called her boss, and she didn't
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show up." So that's what I told
him -- I go, "Listen," I go, "I
think it's best you call 911.
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Head on up to Krissy's house,
and I'll meet you up there
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also." I just...knew, as soon as
he was talking like that, what I
heard in his voice,
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I just felt that something
horrible had happened. >> Vas, I
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just want to go to that -- that
fateful Tuesday evening and,
really, the Wednesday morning
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when everything unfolded. Do you
want to take us through that?
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>> Yeah. Roy was in the middle
of the finals, the GTHL finals.
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>> So he was a -- he was a
hockey player? >> Yes, he was a
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hockey player, a goalie. Hockey
was very strong in his life --
and in all our lives.
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We've all made sacrifices. He
did play at a high level. We've
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played in world championships in
Italy, we've played in a big
tournament when he was 10 years
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old in Edmonton. So, you're
all throughout the States and
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Canada, and even Europe through
his hockey. So, it was a normal
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night. The game was a late game.
I think it finished around 11:00
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P.M. And we were driving back.
You know, he spoke up, and he
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said, "Dad, tomorrow's
Wednesday. It's my practice
day." His mom was in charge of
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practice day. And he said, you
know, "The equipment's in the
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car." He goes, "Why don't you
just drop me off at Mom's." And
he goes, you know, "This
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way, it will just be easier
for her." So we stayed on the
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highway, continued on to Ajax,
dropped him off that night, and
-- and went home...after.
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And, yeah. Didn't think
anything of it at the time.
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>> So you dropped him off
at his mom's place? >> Mm-hmm.
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>> And then, the next morning,
you went off to work. >> Yes.
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Yes. So, I think another point
to add in there was, during the
game, while we're at the rink,
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Victoria wanted to sleep over at
her friend's. I sent her off in
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an Uber to pick her up from her
mom's, and she spent the night
at Charlotte's house.
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>> So she wasn't home... >>
She was not. >> ...at her mom's
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house. Okay. >> No. Mnh-mnh.
>> That's your oldest daughter,
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Victoria? >> That's
correct. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay.
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So, now you're -- Krissy was at
home with Roy and your youngest
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daughter, Vanna. >> That's
right. >> Okay. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> So, you went to work
Wednesday morning. >> Yeah.
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So, Victoria started reaching
out to me and saying she
couldn't get ahold of her mom.
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Her mom was supposed to drive
her and Charlotte -- Krissy was
supposed her and Charlotte to
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the driving school. And
something hit me there. It
didn't feel right because
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the one thing with Krissy, she
was very responsible and her
kids came first in her life.
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Always, always, always. There
was never -- Nothing could stand
between her and the kids.
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>> So she would answer her
phone? >> Absolutely. All the
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time. Like, there was never a
question for that when it came
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to her kids. Or if there was a
scheduled drive somewhere, or if
there was a scheduled pickup
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somewhere, she never missed a
beat with things like that. I
started reaching out to her,
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and she never answered her
phone. And I started reaching
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out to Roy. He didn't answer his
phone. Started to reach out to
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Vanna. She did not pick up,
either. I felt something was not
right, in my gut, and I jumped
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on the highway, and I started
driving towards her place. I had
called 911 'cause I
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just -- something didn't feel
right, and I constantly was
calling them, and they're not
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picking it up. Just during
that call, something didn't sit
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right, and I just felt something
was wrong. And I rushed over to
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Krissy's house... >>
Mm-hmm. >> ...at that point.
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>> So, the call -- You mean the
call when you called 911? You've
had this uncomfortable
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feeling as you were
talking to them? >> Yeah.
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I mean, I've called 911 in the
past. I've dealt with certain
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times where I've had to speak to
a 911 operator, and based off my
previous experiences
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talking to the operators, there
are certain questions and
certain ways they -- they
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speak to you. This call, this
operator was not speaking that
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way. It almost felt more
compassionate or hard, and it
almost seemed like,
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everything I was asking for, it
was being done right away. So --
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>> So she knew. >> She knew.
She wasn't letting it out to me
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at that moment, but I think she
knew at the time, and that's
where I really started getting
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a feeling of dread inside of
me. >> So you showed up at the
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house? >> Yeah. Yeah. I showed
up at the house, and they were
putting tape around
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the house, police were. And I
tried to get in. They wouldn't
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allow me to. And I started
asking questions, and they would
not... they would not give me
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the answers I was looking for.
At one point, the ambulance...
the ambulance drivers,
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they showed up, and they pulled
a woman out of the house on a
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gurney, and they were working
on her, and they put her in the
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ambulance. And -- And I couldn't
see from where I was. I could
not see if it was Vanna
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or Krissy at that time.
Constantly talking to the one
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police officer, and I'm begging
that police officer, "Just let
me know. Is my boy okay?
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Is, you know, my
girl okay?" [ Sniffles ]
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And I found out at that moment
that there was a deceased male
inside, and at that time,
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I knew I was right. >> Mm.
>> I still wasn't sure about
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Krissy, and I still wasn't sure
about Vanna at that time. But I
knew that I lost my boy
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at that moment. I
remember...just falling. Just
falling and crying.
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Hurt, destroyed. I'd lost
my best friend. [ Sniffles ]
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There will never be another day
like that, that bad, in my life.
There's -- There can't be.
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I lost half -- more than half my
family that day. >> When we
arrived on -- on site
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at the house there, we saw the
yellow tape, all the police. And
I just kind of lost it
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'cause I-I knew that...something
bad -- It was bad. The police
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tried to keep me back. And I was
asking, "Where's Vas?" He was
sitting in the back of
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the -- one of the police
cruisers with his head down, and
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he's just... he was just in
shambles. And I go, "What's
going on? Do you know -- Do you
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know what's going on?" "They're
gone. They're gone. They're
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gone." It's all he kept telling
me. We were both crying, both
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yelling. Trying to make sense of
what just happened. Yeah, that
was a difficult day.
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A difficult day. Just trying
to console him after that, you
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know, I tried to pull
myself together. [ Scoffs ]
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From there, they -- one of the
officers told us that, one of
the females -- they didn't know
00:21:13.97\00:21:21.04
whether it was the mother or
daughter -- but one of the
females survived and was taken
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to the hospital. So that's
when we asked, "Can we be taken
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there?" And, sure enough, you
know... they took Vas in the
cruiser, and I followed with my
00:21:30.72\00:21:37.59
son to Ajax Hospital. We waited
there for a while. We still
didn't know whether
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it was Vanna, Venallia, the --
his youngest daughter... >> Or
00:21:43.00\00:21:47.67
Krissy. >> ...or Krissy, his
ex-wife. And finally, they said
they were transferring --
00:21:47.67\00:21:54.11
transferring her to Sunnybrook
Hospital in Toronto, being a
trauma center. So, that's when
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we left from there. We went down
to Sunnybrook, and that's when
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we found out it was -- it was
Venallia, Vanna, his youngest
daughter. They came back out
00:22:07.26\00:22:12.79
again and said, no, there was
just too much brain damage.
There was no activity
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in the brain. So, I guess
they had her on life support,
00:22:16.56\00:22:20.17
and we were able to go in,
and Vas was there with her. And
00:22:20.17\00:22:25.57
Victoria ended up coming down
afterwards, also. Yeah, and a
minister did come in for final
00:22:25.57\00:22:31.25
-- final words and prayer. And
that's when -- when Vas decided
it was time to let her
00:22:31.25\00:22:36.42
go and just -- got the plug.
>> We couldn't process what was
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happening, and we were just in
shock. It was all... Someone was
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guiding us, because if I think
about it now, I just -- I can't.
What we went through, I don't
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understand what's happened. And
I just -- Someone was guiding
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us. >> You know, in my head, I
was -- I was praying, and I was
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asking God, "What -- What's
going on? What happened? Why did
00:23:02.04\00:23:06.48
this happen? Lord, give me some
answers. Give us -- Give us some
00:23:06.48\00:23:11.69
help here." And in time, He did.
For me, I got the feeling that,
"It's going to be okay."
00:23:11.69\00:23:18.66
That came upon me. It came over
me. And -- And looking at Vas
00:23:18.66\00:23:24.57
over the next few weeks, it was
-- you know, I saw his pain, but
I also saw a glitter of light
00:23:24.57\00:23:33.78
also, from certain times, the
way he would speak, and I knew
00:23:33.78\00:23:41.58
that, "Okay, the Lord is here.
He's here with him." >> It was
00:23:41.58\00:23:49.12
probably very hard for you to
see Victoria, too, because now
she was... She'd lost a brother
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and a sister. >> And her
mom. >> And her mother, yeah.
00:23:54.46\00:23:57.47
So... >> [ Sniffles ] Yeah.
It -- It was not easy, and...
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[ Stammers ] I mean, you know,
with Victoria, it was just the
00:24:03.41\00:24:07.71
most... You know what? [ Sighs
] It was the one strength out of
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that day that I could pull, that
I still had Victoria with me. >>
00:24:10.95\00:24:14.45
Mm-hmm. >> That the Lord blessed
me with Victoria, that I -- I
could still hold her in my arms
00:24:14.45\00:24:19.12
and tell her how much I love her
and let her know. Like, it like
00:24:19.12\00:24:22.52
the one blessing, the one silver
lining, bright spot in that day,
that the Lord still blessed me
00:24:22.52\00:24:26.96
with Victoria. It was so hard.
It was so hard to deal with.
00:24:26.96\00:24:32.07
I-I remember just, I-I call
it "zombie-like" for the rest of
00:24:32.07\00:24:36.37
that day. I just... >>
I'm sure. >> I didn't know.
00:24:36.37\00:24:38.01
I mean, there were still some
very difficult moments in that
day, moving forward.
00:24:38.01\00:24:42.34
Meeting up with Victoria at the
police station and having to let
00:24:42.34\00:24:45.08
her know that her brother
was dead, it was not easy. [
00:24:45.08\00:24:50.42
Sniffles ] Having to rush to
Sunnybrook Hospital with the
hope, little hope, that they
00:24:50.42\00:24:53.56
brought Vanna's vitals back, but
then to learn that she was dead
for too long and her brain
00:24:53.56\00:24:59.73
activity was stopped. But having
a chance to spend time with her
00:24:59.73\00:25:04.10
in the hospital room, we were
there for about five, six hours
00:25:04.10\00:25:07.37
with her, just saying our
goodbyes, knowing that, at one
point, I was gonna have to -- to
00:25:07.37\00:25:14.38
pull the plug on -- on her life,
and... A very difficult day.
00:25:14.38\00:25:22.45
>> Yeah, the most. >> A
very difficult day. >> The most
00:25:22.45\00:25:25.69
difficult, yeah. >> I was
grieving really hard. I was
really grieving. It was just
00:25:25.69\00:25:31.86
before -- You know, getting back
to before that, it was close to
about a year before the tragedy
00:25:31.86\00:25:37.47
that I found the Lord, and I was
growing. I was growing in Him.
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I was learning the Word. >> So
you started to read the Bible?
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>> Yeah, I -- In November of
2017, I had finally realized,
the blessings that I had in my
00:25:45.37\00:25:52.98
heart and the change in my life
and in the person that I am all
goes to the glory of Jesus.
00:25:52.98\00:25:58.39
I mean, He was the reason why I
was, you know, there. >> Uh-huh.
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>> And I realized it. And I
just wanted to find the truth.
00:26:01.89\00:26:04.59
>> Yes. >> I wanted to find the
truth. >> So you were searching.
00:26:04.59\00:26:07.30
>> I was searching, and like I
did after my -- after my
experience of forgiveness with
00:26:07.30\00:26:12.13
Krissy, I went down a road of
thinking, was it karma? Was it,
00:26:12.13\00:26:17.94
you know, a law of attraction
that I got into? And I realized
all -- all those things are so
00:26:17.94\00:26:22.54
empty. There was nothing. There
was no foundation. There was no
00:26:22.54\00:26:26.11
truth there. And then, finally,
I got turned onto the Lord Jesus
Christ, and I started really
00:26:26.11\00:26:33.56
digging and searching for all
parts of Christianity. I-I
looked at every angle of
00:26:33.56\00:26:39.09
Christianity, and that was my
journey. That's where my journey
00:26:39.09\00:26:42.70
really started, and I started
going in the knowledge of the
Lord. >> I'm sorry we have
00:26:42.70\00:26:47.80
to end this episode, but we will
continue again with our next
00:26:47.80\00:26:51.84
one. I would like us to
pray as we close off. Let's pray
00:26:51.84\00:26:56.91
together. Father in Heaven, I...
You have told us in Your Word
that we're in this world
00:26:56.91\00:27:03.62
and we will experience
trials and tribulations, we will
00:27:03.62\00:27:07.89
experience things that -- that
we could never anticipate. And
yet, You will not abandon
00:27:07.89\00:27:13.53
us. You say -- You promise to
us that You will never leave us,
00:27:13.53\00:27:16.70
nor forsake us. And I can see
that You have done that in Vas'
00:27:16.70\00:27:22.47
life. And I pray, Lord, that You
will do that for each one of us,
00:27:22.47\00:27:25.74
Lord. So many of us go through
trials, and we -- we get our
strength from You, and we thank
00:27:25.74\00:27:32.85
You for hearing and answering
our prayers. In Jesus' name.
00:27:32.85\00:27:35.28
>> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen.
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>> So, friends, thank you
for joining us again on "It Is
00:27:37.19\00:27:40.86
Written Canada." And as Vas
said, we do not live apart from
the Word of God. It is written,
00:27:40.86\00:27:47.30
as Jesus said, "Man shall not
live by bread alone, but by
every word that proceeds from
00:27:47.30\00:27:57.17
the mouth of God." >> You saw
the evil around you. >> Oh,
yeah. >> You saw the
00:27:57.17\00:28:00.68
temptations. The devil's not
done with us yet. >> We worked
00:28:00.68\00:28:09.82
so hard on her! I said, "God,
how could you?" >> He said to
me, "Rob, I've forgiven him,
00:28:09.82\00:28:17.46
and I've prayed for him." And
I just was quiet. >> That peace
00:28:17.46\00:28:21.93
comes to you, that human comes
to you, and that's -- that's the
match. That's the power of
00:28:21.93\00:28:28.70
forgiveness. >> I said, "I'm
envious of you." I said,
"Because, where you are, I want
00:28:28.70\00:28:33.61
to be." >> And we just fell
on each other's shoulder, and we
00:28:33.64\00:28:36.75
embraced, and we cried. >>
I don't think God was ready
00:28:36.75\00:28:40.62
to let him go. >> He
became a part of us, yes.
00:28:40.62\00:28:46.39