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>> Welcome and thank you
for joining us on "It Is Written
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Canada." We are on the road
today, and we are visiting the
Church in the Valley in
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Langley, British Columbia. You
know, every now and then you
hear the story of someone
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who does something
extraordinary. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> And today we're going to be
talking to a man right here in
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British Columbia who decided to
take a risk and put his life on
the line to save the life of his
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friend. >> His name is Michael
Dauncey, and his friend's name
is Florencio Ancheta,
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also known to his friends as
"June." But before we interview
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them, we are going to show
you their story. Take a look at
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this. い >> We had found
out about your condition,
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that your kidney was failing and
that you were on dialysis, that
you lost your father
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at age 35 in the Philippines
to kidney failure. >> Yeah.
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>> And then your brother, also
living in the Philippines, died
at age 42 of kidney failure.
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>> Yeah. >> And you
also have this same issue.
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And you are going to have to
find a kidney donor. >> Yeah.
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>> Several times you thought
that you had found someone to
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donate. >> I just pray to God
that one day someone give me a
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kidney. >> And then something
happened. It was Thanksgiving
2016. We get a call from May
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that you were in the
hospital. You were in and out of
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consciousness. You were having a
very difficult time. And I
looked at you there,
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and I just realized that someone
had to do something. At our
church we sometimes
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rent out our facility to the
blood bank. I signed up and I
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gave my blood. And then a couple
weeks later I received a card in
the mail, and it told my blood
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type, O-positive. >> Oh. >>
And then it wasn't long after
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we were at your house. You were
preparing some food in the
kitchen, and I heard
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you and May and Marci talking,
and Marci, my wife, she said,
"Oh, I'll give my kidney to
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June." And so she asked
what your blood type was.
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And then May said O-positive.
And when I heard that, I just
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froze. For about three months,
I guess you could say I was a
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little bit scared, but then the
Holy Spirit kept on working on
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me. I didn't want to get your
hopes up again. So, I didn't
even tell you that I was getting
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tested, and it had been about a
year. I remember I was driving
back from Alberta, and I
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remember them phoning me and
saying, "It's official. You can
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do it if you would like." >>
After my dialysis that day, I
went out to my garden.
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And then do some weeding and
planting some garlic, and then
all of a sudden, the
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phone ring. St. Paul told
me that "One more test and then
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you're good to go," they said to
me. They didn't even say who was
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the donor. I said to God, "If
this go through, you're really
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there for me," I said to God.
And then Marci told me, "Can we
have a Sabbath lunch in
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the house, just the Dauncey
family and the Ancheta family?"
So, when we came here
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that lunchtime, I'm waiting
for you to stop talking. >> [
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Chuckles ] >> And then when you
stop talking, "I am your donor."
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And then I got a shock. I
said, "What?" So, I'm very, very
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grateful until I live. >>
Mm-hmm. I have never been good
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at being a bystander, you know?
If there's something I can do to
help, I want to help, you know?
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And that's what Jesus would do.
I just want to be more like Him,
and I know that He would give.
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Jesus, He wouldn't even have to
think twice about it. He would
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just give it, and That's the
kind of person I want to be. I
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would do it again. If I had to
do it over again, I would do it
again because it's so worth it.
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>> That's why, in my life, I
never question God. Everything I
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pray to Him, He give it to me,
especially the kidney that you
gave me a second life.
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I'm very grateful on that. >>
You know, it's a blessing to see
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you, Florencio, functioning once
again. You know, I love seeing
you and your family at church.
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And it just gives me a good
feeling to know that I've made a
difference in someone's life.
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You know, June, I think maybe
God gave us two kidneys so that
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we could share one with someone
who needs one. >> I think so. >>
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Maybe. >> Maybe. >> There's
many ways that we can give.
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And I believe that giving is
just a part of us, our Christian
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lifestyles. You know, the Bible
talks about giving in many, many
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places. And sometimes it doesn't
come naturally to give, but when
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we help people, when we give and
we know that it's going to make
a difference somewhere, it does
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feel good. And so I just
encourage you today to listen to
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the Holy Spirit
when He asks you to give.
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>> You know, Jesus once said
that greater love has no man
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than this, that he lay down his
life for the life of his friend.
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And so what Pastor Dauncey did
by giving his kidney, by having
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invasive surgery and giving his
kidney for the life of his
friend, was an incredible act of
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love. And so today with us here
at "It Is Written Canada," we
have Pastor Dauncey and
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his friend Florencio Ancheta,
who received his kidney, and now
they're both with us
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and we want to talk to
them about their story.
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>> Pastor Dauncey,
what initially inspired you
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or what made you
decide to donate your kidney?
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>> Well, it was quite a process.
It wasn't something that was
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a quick decision by
any means. It all started
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with my wife, actually.
She said, "Well, our friend
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June needs a kidney.
I'll give him my kidney."
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So, I got to thinking, "Wow,
that's quite a statement." But
she didn't have the right
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blood type. It wasn't possible.
So, that's kind of what got me
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thinking about it. >> Mm-hmm.
>> And when I initially thought
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maybe I should do something,
at first I was a little bit
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worried. What happened was, I
found out I had the same blood
type, and then what happened
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was I just kind of got a little
bit scared. I was a little bit
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scared. So, I just didn't do
anything with the information
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for quite a while, like, a few
months. And then, you know, the
Holy Spirit kind of
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is working on me and saying,
"You should at least explore
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this idea." And so it took a
long time. It took about a year
worth of testing, and during
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that process I had a lot of time
to think about this. >> Yeah.
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>> And so, it was a long, hard
decision. >> I'm sure they asked
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you or told you, you know, like,
"Are you sure you're going to go
through with this?"
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and told you about the risks.
Can you tell us any risks that
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could have... >> Well, I don't
think they really bring that up
too much, actually.
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[ Laughter ] I don't remember
them kind of, but they were
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very -- St. Paul's in Vancouver.
They were just really amazing to
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work with. >> Mm-hmm. >> They
said at any point, you know,
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this is a voluntary thing. And
they were not forceful in any
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way. >> Right. >> This was
100% my decision. At any point I
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could back out and just walk
away. You know, I definitely
talked to a lot of people.
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I got a lot of people's advice
on whether I should do this or
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not. And several said, "No,
don't do it." >> Yeah, yeah.
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>> But I have to make decisions
for myself. And I have to answer
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to what I feel God
calling me to do. >> Exactly.
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>> And I felt I needed to be
obedient because I felt the Holy
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Spirit was moving me in this
direction. >> Yes, yes. So, here
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you are. You're a pastor of a
church, Church in the Valley
here in British Columbia, in
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Langley. And, you know, what
does that do for you as a
pastor? How did that
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affect your congregation? >>
Yeah, I remember, June, they had
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a special prayer for you during
the process. No one knew what I
was doing. I kept it quiet while
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I was getting checked up. It
took a year, like I said. And we
had a special prayer for
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June in the congregation. And
it's kind of interesting because
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we weren't really saying,
"Someone come forward, please."
We were just sharing
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what he was going through. And
so we were in this together as a
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congregation. We have about 600
attending. And this was a family
moment. This was a church-family
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moment. And so, as a pastor, you
know, we preach, we teach. What
do I do as a pastor?
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I encourage people to give.
>> Yes. >> I encourage people to
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serve. >> Yes. >> It's part of
who I am and want others to do
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this. And then it's like, "Do I
really practice what I preach?"
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You know? Here's
the test. >> Yes.
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>> And I've had people, more
than one, say to me, "What you
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did to June by giving your
kidney was the most powerful
sermon you've ever preached."
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So, the old adage is true.
Actions speak louder than words.
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>> Yes. >> And I decided I
wasn't going to be a bystander.
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I figured out that I could do
something to help, and I wanted
to do that. >> Yeah.
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>> God put that in my heart. >>
So, every time you, I mean, a
person who's sort of a
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bystander, watching someone
else, what goes through your
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mind? You're seeing your friend,
he's going through pain. He's
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suffering. What was it that --
was it the Holy Spirit prompting
you? Did you have this feeling,
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"Hey, I really have to do
something here"? >> Well, when I
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saw him in January of 2016,
he was in rough shape. I got a
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call. We're friends. We're
friends. June and May's children
are the same age as my children.
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>> Okay. >> And so, we had a
relationship, and May called my
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wife, Marci, and said, "June's
in the hospital. He's not doing
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well." And so it was
Thanksgiving, right? It was
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Thanksgiving Day. We rushed over
to the hospital. And you were
looking really bad shape.
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And it scared me. His eyes are
rolling back in his head, and he
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was going through things. And as
I sat there, watched and prayed
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and was there, the thought came
over to me, "Someone has to do
something." This is not good to
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see him in this condition. I was
scared. I thought maybe he could
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die. It was scary. >> Yes.
>> And so at that point I didn't
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know it was going to be me.
I just said, "Someone has to do
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something." >> You're looking
around. "Who's going to do
something about this?"
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>> But in the back of my head,
I had a feeling that it might be
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me. >> Right. >> But at that
time, I had no idea, no idea.
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>> Pastor Dauncey, you say that
your decision to donate your
kidney was 100% yours,
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but then you also mentioned
earlier on that your wife was
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the one that said, "I'll donate
my kidney to June." I was just
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wondering, how did your children
feel about this? Did you speak
to them about it? >> I did.
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I take that back. It isn't 100%
my decision, because I do want
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to include my family, and we did
have a family meeting. And, you
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know, I asked my children -- I
have three kids -- and asked
them how they felt about it
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because there could be problems.
There could be complications,
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like whatever. Who knows, right?
Whenever you do surgery, you
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never know what's going to
happen. And they were okay with
it. They didn't really
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fight me on it too much. And
my parents, as well, and sister,
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also good friends of the Ancheta
family, and they also were were
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onboard with it. And so, yeah.
So I had the support of everyone
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closest to me. >> Yes. >>
And that's important, you know.
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So, yeah, it was all of our
decision together as a family.
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>> Right. Yeah. >> But, June,
can you tell us what your life
was like before you got the
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kidney from Pastor Dauncey?
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>> Before, when I had that
transplant, I'm going to the
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hospital three times a week.
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And it's kind of a little bit
scary every day. I'm praying to
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God that I'll get through to
this. >> Mm-hmm. >> And then now
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I get Pastor Dauncey's kidney, I
feel much better now. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> So, what kind of medication
were you taking at that time? >>
That time, I got tons of
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medicine I take. >> Yeah.
How much was it? >> It's like 13
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different kind of medicine --
blood pressure, potassium, you
name it. So, but now I only take
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1.5 milligram... >> Okay.
>> ...since I got this kidney
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transplant. >> Just one little
tablet. >> Yeah, one little
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tablet. >> Wow. >> And then they
cut up again because last week
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St. Paul called me again
that they said, "You're feeling
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better. So, you have to cut down
to 1.5 milligram." That's what
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they said. >> Nice. >> So, June,
at the time that Pastor Dauncey
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mentioned that you were really
sick at that Thanksgiving and
they came to visit you
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in the hospital and you were
very concerned about June, at
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that time, were you on dialysis?
>> Yeah. >> At that time, okay.
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>> At that time, I'm in
peritoneal dialysis at that
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time. That was my blood pressure
going high, going down. I never
-- I don't know what's
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happened that time, right? So,
I just fell down on the floor.
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And then my wife is kind of
worrying me because I cannot
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recall that time because I don't
know what happened 'cause I'm in
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the blur. So, I didn't know that
May, my wife, called the
ambulance but is kind
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of panicking. At the same time,
she called my friend Marci,
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Pastor Dauncey's wife. >> Wife,
okay. >> And then, by the time
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we get in the hospital with this
paramedic, these two couples,
they're already there, waiting
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for us. So, I don't
know what happened that time.
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It's really kind of scary
because my wife is crying. "He
doesn't know what he's
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doing." It's like, you
know. And then my son is there.
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He was talking on the
phone with 911. >> Wow.
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>> Yeah. >> So, Pastor
Dauncey, you and Marci got there
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before the ambulance and were
waiting for them. >> We got
there as soon as we
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could. I mean, you hear your
friend's in trouble, and you
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just want to go and reach out,
right, and be there for them. >>
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Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah. >> So,
June, once you found out that
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Pastor Dauncey was gonna give
you his kidney, how did you feel
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at that moment? >> Well, what
happened that time is this
story. His mother told my wife
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that can we have a potluck
Sabbath lunch in their house? I
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said, "Okay." I said to them.
So, we have Thanksgiving Sabbath
lunch in their house.
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But is keeping going around and
waiting for him to stop talking.
Keeping around the table,
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like this, talking and talking
because we're having a toast. >>
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I'm a pastor. I talk a lot. >>
"Pastor Dauncey family and
Ancheta family, can we have a
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toast?" he said to me. Talking,
talking and talking. He doesn't
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stop talking because I have to
tell him, tell him again that I
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have a donor now. So, when he
stop talking, and then he's in
my back, behind me.
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He is hugging my back like this.
"I am your donor," he said to
me, and then I get shocked.
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>> Yeah. >> I stop. >> Yeah.
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>> And my wife is crying, and
his mom is crying. The same time
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you're laughing. >> Because
you're so happy. >> Show again
the one can of kidney -- "This
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is my kidney. I give it to you."
>> We had a can of kidney beans
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there. >> Kidney beans. He's
joking again. So, that time I'm
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so speechless, and I'm so
blessed because of him. >> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >>
And I said to myself,
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"This is my good friend." I said
to myself. And then it came to
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my mind that the Holy Spirit
is working for me. >> Yeah.
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>> That time. >> Yeah.
>> And every single day,
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talking to Him, He
gave it to me. >> Mm-hmm.
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>> I never, I never complain
every day, even though I had
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dialysis. I never complained. I
just go home, eat a little bit,
and go out in the backyard.
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And then that's my life that
time. Now, because I got the
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kidney, I can do much better
now. >> Mm-hmm. >> So, you were
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saying the Holy Spirit was
working for you, and He was
working on Pastor Dauncey's
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heart and speaking to him. That
must've been quite an intense
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pressure and moment and
conversation that was going on.
How were you thinking
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about this? Like, what if
it didn't work? What if...
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How many kinds of "what ifs"
were there? >> Yeah, you know.
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That was the big question
for me. What if I do this,
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and it doesn't work and his
body rejects it? And how am I
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going to feel, right? But then
if I didn't try it, he would be
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-- there would be no chance.
Now, one thing you didn't
mention was the fact that you
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had thought you had two other
donors. Or is it three, even?
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>> Oh, yeah, yeah, three. >>
Three other donors were lined up
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before I did this, and they all
fell through, whether it was for
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health reasons or they backed
out or whatever it was. And
that's why I didn't tell him
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for the whole time. I didn't
want to get his hopes up again,
but there was three.
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And people even came while I was
being checked out. People came
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along. I thought, "Oh, maybe
this will be taken care of," the
selfish part of me.
00:20:38.83\00:20:43.44
But no. They all
fell through, and I'm glad
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I started the process early
because they all fell through.
And then I was next in line,
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and I was ready to go, because
I've been working on this for so
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long. He had three other fall
through. And what kind of
feeling? Think about the
00:20:57.05\00:21:01.12
emotions there. You're up
here. >> Yes. >> And then falls
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through. Three times! And
so I'm so glad that I was able.
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You know, I remember the day
like it was yesterday, coming
back from Alberta and
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on the phone. I was at Burman
doing a master's degree, and
00:21:13.00\00:21:17.01
they called me and said it's
official. "You can donate if you
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are willing." I was like, "Wow."
So, yeah. >> So, you're thinking
00:21:20.61\00:21:24.61
beyond it. Say you go into the
surgery. It doesn't work, but on
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the other hand, the Holy
Spirit's speaking to you. What
if you don't do it, right?
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So, which is the greater
discouragement? What if you
never did it at all?
00:21:35.82\00:21:42.23
>> Exactly. >> Then what do you
have, right? >> Right, and, you
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know, there would probably be
regrets. And what if I could
have helped? >> So, you're a
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pastor. What Bible verse, or how
was God speaking to you through
00:21:50.74\00:21:55.08
His work? >> You know what? It
was really, I think, the Bible,
00:21:55.08\00:21:59.08
the Word of God, that put this
decision over the edge. You
know, Luke 6:31 says
00:21:59.08\00:22:05.75
"Do unto others what you would
want them to do to you." >> Yes.
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>> And I'm just thinking if I
was in June's shoes, I would
want someone to come
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along and give me their kidney.
I mean, it sounds selfish, but
00:22:13.06\00:22:16.53
no, I would. I would want
someone to do something. >> Of
00:22:16.53\00:22:19.60
course. >> And then I got to
thinking, "Why not me?" >> Why
00:22:19.60\00:22:22.00
not me? >> Why not me? Why not?
You know? And so that's really
00:22:22.00\00:22:28.01
-- that Bible verse just, that
was the one that did it for me.
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God, Jesus is saying that to my
soul, is saying, you know, "Do
what you would want done to
00:22:32.01\00:22:39.59
you." >> Yeah.
>> And someone's got
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to do something. Might
as well be me. >> Yes, yeah.
00:22:42.92\00:22:46.09
>> Yeah. >> And so, June,
you mentioned that your life
00:22:46.09\00:22:49.73
has changed so much now. You are
only taking one little tablet,
00:22:49.73\00:22:54.30
and you took 13 tablets
before the time. You were going
00:22:54.30\00:22:57.97
to dialysis three times a week.
And before that it was like four
hours all the time,
00:22:57.97\00:23:04.28
constantly when you were doing
peritoneal dialysis. >> Yeah.
00:23:04.28\00:23:07.82
>> And so this has been just a
whole life-changing -- not just
00:23:07.82\00:23:12.72
life-changing but lifesaving
experience, right? >> Yeah. >>
So, Pastor Dauncey,
00:23:12.72\00:23:16.19
how do you feel? Because
it's been more than a year now.
00:23:16.19\00:23:19.79
How are you feeling today? >>
I feel great. I feel like I have
00:23:19.79\00:23:25.20
two kidneys. I don't know the
difference. You know, I play ice
00:23:25.20\00:23:29.10
hockey regularly. I play
pickleball regular. I run four
or five times a week, 6
00:23:29.10\00:23:33.71
kilometers, on the weekends, 10
kilometers. So, I'm more active
than ever, and I'm just -- our
00:23:33.71\00:23:40.62
bodies are fearfully and
wonderfully made. The fact that
I can do this and not feel any
00:23:40.62\00:23:46.55
different, it's amazing. It's so
rewarding. It's so rewarding to
00:23:46.55\00:23:51.96
be a living donor. >> Yes.
>> Number one, living donors'
00:23:51.96\00:23:55.43
organs last longer than ones
from deceased bodies. >> Oh,
00:23:55.43\00:23:59.77
really? >> Yes. And so that
was also another positive point.
00:23:59.77\00:24:03.64
>> That is. >> But I remember
they kept me in recovery so long
00:24:03.64\00:24:08.44
because I was having issues. I'd
never been admitted to a
hospital before this.
00:24:08.44\00:24:11.85
>> Right. >> So they're having
-- I didn't know much -- I was
00:24:11.85\00:24:14.55
having issues with the meds. I
was having sleep apnea, and they
00:24:14.55\00:24:18.19
didn't like that. So, they kept
me there for, like, six hours in
00:24:18.19\00:24:21.19
the recovery room. So, I was
there when he came in after the
surgery, and I saw this bag
00:24:21.19\00:24:26.66
there next to his bed, and
I knew immediately that it was
00:24:26.66\00:24:31.07
working. It doesn't take any
time. You put a kidney into
someone that doesn't have an
00:24:31.07\00:24:35.74
organ, and bam, it's working.
And there's just this feeling of
reward that comes over.
00:24:35.74\00:24:42.08
This is a rewarding experience.
I'm helping someone out, and I
can see the difference.
00:24:42.08\00:24:46.55
I'm not dead. I'm alive. I can
see the difference I'm making in
00:24:46.55\00:24:49.78
someone's life. >> That is
incredible. >> Yeah. >> I mean,
00:24:49.78\00:24:53.52
you know, usually parts of a
body, giving, donating, the
person is deceased already.
00:24:53.52\00:24:58.86
Now you can see this. You've
given a part of your body and
you continue to live.
00:24:58.86\00:25:03.97
>> We have a relationship.
>> You're thriving. >> Yeah.
00:25:03.97\00:25:06.87
>> We see each other at church
every week. >> And he has a part
00:25:06.87\00:25:10.57
of you inside of him. That is
incredible. >> So, if he starts
00:25:10.57\00:25:13.58
acting a little weird, you'll
know why. >> You know where that
00:25:13.58\00:25:16.18
came from. [ Laughter
] Incredible, incredible.
00:25:16.18\00:25:20.32
Do you have any last remarks
that you would like to share? >>
Well, yeah, I think
00:25:20.32\00:25:25.85
what I would like to share is
just if there is someone out
there that is in a position
00:25:25.85\00:25:32.83
where they can help someone,
whether it's physically or
spiritually, mentally,
00:25:32.83\00:25:38.10
otherwise, whatever it is, I
would just encourage you to do
00:25:38.10\00:25:41.97
it. >> Yes. >> There might
be someone out there right now
00:25:41.97\00:25:44.71
wondering if they should donate
an organ to help someone. And I
would just recommend them
00:25:44.71\00:25:50.15
to do it. >> Exactly. >>
It's been a life-changing
00:25:50.15\00:25:53.31
experience for both of us, and
it's been nothing but positive.
00:25:53.31\00:26:00.12
And I just think that God has
designed us to give and there's
something that happens to us
00:26:00.12\00:26:07.40
when we give. It really is... It
really is a wonderful feeling to
00:26:07.40\00:26:12.13
give and to be able to help
someone to really save their
life. It didn't really come out
00:26:12.13\00:26:18.77
here, but during that process of
dialysis, it's not a cakewalk.
00:26:18.77\00:26:24.11
I mean, you'd get sad. You'd
get depressed. Let's be honest.
00:26:24.11\00:26:29.45
So, you are totally helping
someone have a new life. >> Yes.
00:26:29.45\00:26:35.39
>> And if you can do that, then
I recommend you to do that
because it will save a life.
00:26:35.39\00:26:41.43
And it's been wonderful. >>
Yeah. Well, Michael and June,
00:26:41.43\00:26:45.87
thank you very much for coming
and sharing this story with us
-- very inspirational.
00:26:45.87\00:26:52.81
And I'm sure that everyone who
has been listening to your story
00:26:52.81\00:26:58.25
was really touched by it. It
really touched me personally.
So, thank you so much.
00:26:58.25\00:27:02.22
>> Amen. That's what we want.
We want people to be touched
00:27:02.22\00:27:04.72
by the story. >> And
we're alive. >> You are.
00:27:04.72\00:27:08.12
>> Yeah! [
Laughter ] >> You betcha.
00:27:08.12\00:27:12.49
>> You know, friends, Jesus said
that "By this shall all men know
that you are my disciples
00:27:12.49\00:27:18.40
if you love one another." So,
He was giving us the credentials
00:27:18.40\00:27:23.91
for Christianity. And clearly
illustrated in the story of
Pastor Dauncey and his friend
00:27:23.91\00:27:29.21
June, we can see the love of
Jesus. So, as we close off
today, let's just bow our heads
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for a word of prayer. Father in
heaven, I thank you so much for
the inspirational story
00:27:35.82\00:27:42.32
that we could hear and listen
to and see of how Pastor Dauncey
00:27:42.32\00:27:50.10
was prepared to be prompted by
your Holy Spirit and to listen
to your Holy Spirit
00:27:50.10\00:27:55.10
and by doing that saved the life
of his friend June. I thank you
for the inspiration
00:27:55.10\00:28:00.74
that it gives to each one of
us and help us to listen to your
00:28:00.74\00:28:05.38
spirit, as well, and as we read
your word, Lord, to follow that
you will give us the strength
00:28:05.38\00:28:11.82
and the promptings of your Holy
Spirit to do what you ask us to
00:28:11.82\00:28:16.22
do. We pray this in
Jesus' name. >> Amen. >> Amen.
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>> So, thank you for joining
us, friends, on "It Is Written
00:28:19.59\00:28:23.26
Canada." Remember -- "It is
written: 'Man shall not live by
bread alone but by every word
00:28:23.26\00:28:30.51
that proceeds from
the mouth of God.'"
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