¤¤ ¤¤ 00:00:00.80\00:00:20.68 >> Welcome and thank you for joining us again on 00:00:20.68\00:00:23.05 "It Is Written Canada." It is another beautiful day 00:00:23.05\00:00:25.89 here in Pugwash, Nova Scotia, and we've been 00:00:25.89\00:00:28.89 discussing the three absolutely essential ingredients 00:00:28.89\00:00:33.86 for a Christian life, the building blocks. 00:00:33.86\00:00:36.93 Number one, we looked at God's word. We need God's word. 00:00:36.97\00:00:41.97 And reading God's word so that He can speak to us so we can 00:00:41.97\00:00:46.44 hear His voice. Secondly, we are looking at and we're going to focus on this one today and that 00:00:46.44\00:00:51.91 is prayer as a two-way communication. So we hear God's 00:00:51.91\00:00:55.92 voice and we're speaking to Him. And thirdly, sharing what we 00:00:55.92\00:01:00.59 have received from God early in the morning. So we thank you for being with us again this 00:01:00.59\00:01:06.33 morning. So when we talk about prayer, is there -- I'm 00:01:06.33\00:01:12.03 thinking. You know, you can you can talk to God and I love to 00:01:12.03\00:01:15.97 share what God is. Does He ever get kind of tired of hearing me talk over and over and over 00:01:15.97\00:01:21.01 because I just talk with Him throughout the day? >> You mean like repeating things and so on. 00:01:21.01\00:01:23.68 >> Yes. >> Yeah, I wonder that too sometimes. 00:01:23.68\00:01:26.08 And it makes me think. Being here in Nova Scotia 00:01:26.11\00:01:28.35 just across the way, in fact -- I think we're just a hop, skip, 00:01:28.35\00:01:31.35 and a jump from Prince Edward Island. 00:01:31.35\00:01:33.42 >> Yes, we are. >> I can't help but think about "Anne of Green 00:01:33.46\00:01:36.99 Gables." I think that's probably my wife's and my favorite film, 00:01:36.99\00:01:40.66 and in that film there's that scene where Anne is being picked up by Matthew, who's always so 00:01:40.66\00:01:47.44 quiet and timid, and he comes around the corner and sees her there and he says, "Well, we 00:01:47.44\00:01:52.01 asked for a boy," and she says, "Don't send me back to the orphanage," and he says, "Well, 00:01:52.01\00:01:55.64 I can't really do that right now because there's no train. You might as well get in my 00:01:55.64\00:01:59.01 carriage and let's drive back and figure out what we're going 00:01:59.01\00:02:02.35 to do later." And then, Anne -- One of her spiritual gifts is 00:02:02.35\00:02:06.55 the gift of gab. And she just runs at the mouth like a motor mouth, and she's just going and 00:02:06.55\00:02:10.96 going, and all of a sudden, in that scene -- I love the scene -- she stops, and she looks at 00:02:10.96\00:02:17.30 him and she says, "Am I talking too much? People say I talk too 00:02:17.30\00:02:21.20 much. I don't have to talk as much as I do. I really can talk 00:02:21.20\00:02:24.07 less. I can be quiet. I can. Really, I can." 00:02:24.07\00:02:27.01 And Matthew looks at her and he says, "You can talk all you 00:02:27.01\00:02:30.48 like. I don't mind." And she puts her arm through the crook of his elbow and she 00:02:30.48\00:02:34.22 scoots a little closer and she says, "I'm going to like you." 00:02:34.22\00:02:38.65 But I often think to myself, "I wonder if God is getting tired of me talking to Him about 00:02:38.65\00:02:43.99 the same sort of things that are always sort of concerning me." 00:02:43.99\00:02:47.23 And I bring them before Him over and over again, and I can almost 00:02:47.23\00:02:50.93 picture God like Matthew looking my way and saying, "You can talk 00:02:50.93\00:02:55.90 all you like. I don't mind. In fact, I love hearing from my 00:02:55.90\00:02:59.84 kids." >> Mm-hmm, yeah. >> I take courage in that. >> That is 00:02:59.84\00:03:04.75 very encouraging. I like that story. And so, for me, I'm 00:03:04.75\00:03:09.62 thinking that sounds like one-way communication. You know, 00:03:09.62\00:03:14.09 you lay out your list before God, and He's just listening and listening. Yes, he loves 00:03:14.09\00:03:17.56 listening to His children. How do we get two-way communication? 00:03:17.56\00:03:20.73 >> Yeah, that's probably equally important, really, because for far too many of us, 00:03:20.73\00:03:26.20 we've grown up "saying" our prayers That's even a phrase we 00:03:26.20\00:03:29.97 use. I can hear my mom saying, "Don't forget to say your 00:03:29.97\00:03:34.04 prayers." Let's say our prayers and then we'll get ready for 00:03:34.04\00:03:36.78 bed. And that just carries with it the idea that you do a 00:03:36.78\00:03:40.42 monologue. You say your little prayer and you got whatever you got to lay out there before the 00:03:40.42\00:03:43.42 Lord and you say, amen, and now you're done. >> And God's kind 00:03:43.42\00:03:46.62 of just sitting there, "I would like to say something." >> "Could I get a word in?" 00:03:46.62\00:03:53.29 And the truth is the Bible premise is that God actually 00:03:53.29\00:03:57.10 wants to communicate with us. He really does. >> So he talks to 00:03:57.10\00:04:04.21 people all the time through the scriptures. >> Oh, yeah. >> And speaks to prophets. 00:04:04.21\00:04:08.18 He speaks to people, just average people. So can you give 00:04:08.18\00:04:14.15 us a kind of a list of ways in which God does talk to us that we can know that He's talking? 00:04:14.15\00:04:19.02 >> Well, I could and I'd like to do that, but before I give that list, maybe I can put in a 00:04:19.02\00:04:23.43 little plug for something called keeping a prayer journal. Some people think that that's 00:04:23.43\00:04:29.23 sort of like, "Where are you going to find the time for 00:04:29.23\00:04:31.50 that?" You don't have to take a lot of time with a prayer 00:04:31.50\00:04:34.80 journal. Some people do prayer journals where they write 00:04:34.80\00:04:38.57 lengthy entries. Others do short abbreviations. I don't think it really matters that much, 00:04:38.57\00:04:42.04 but there's some real value in keeping a prayer journal. And 00:04:42.04\00:04:46.41 one of the values that I think is most useful is as you record in a prayer journal thoughts 00:04:46.41\00:04:53.36 that you've expressed to God and answers that seemed to have come 00:04:53.36\00:04:58.79 to you in one way or another over time that you make note of, 00:04:58.79\00:05:02.43 well, you begin to recognize His voice. You know, you begin to say, "Huh, I was thinking maybe 00:05:02.43\00:05:07.30 God tried to give me this idea the other day when I was reading and I wrote it down 00:05:07.30\00:05:10.17 like maybe this is from God." It turns out day or two later, it had to have been from God 00:05:10.17\00:05:14.54 because it fit perfectly with what my needs were as the day 00:05:14.54\00:05:18.38 unfolded. And as you keep those kinds of things in your journal, they begin to accrue. 00:05:18.38\00:05:21.72 >> Yes. >> And you begin to say, "Oh, this has got to be 00:05:21.72\00:05:23.72 God because I know before." You know what I'm saying? And then 00:05:23.72\00:05:28.16 the other thing is it keeps you slowing down. >> Yeah. >> It 00:05:28.16\00:05:30.96 does, yeah. And I know for myself what was so key for a prayer journal, and also just 00:05:30.96\00:05:36.70 recording answered prayers. >> Yes. >> When you write your 00:05:36.70\00:05:40.50 prayers down in really good notes that God looked back and God answered the prayers, and 00:05:40.50\00:05:46.31 just the way He answered them, and that's all -- then you know that God really loves you and He 00:05:46.31\00:05:52.21 cares for you. >> I'm so glad you mentioned that. Yeah, 00:05:52.21\00:05:56.18 because I think that if we -- well, George Mueller -- Have you ever read about George Mueller 00:05:56.18\00:06:01.19 of Bristol that took care of those thousands of orphans and was a man of prayer? 00:06:01.19\00:06:06.53 I think so much of him that I think if the Bible were written 00:06:06.53\00:06:09.10 currently, we'd have a Book of Mueller maybe a first and second Mueller in the Bible too. 00:06:09.10\00:06:13.30 Such a man of prayer. But when he died, he kept prayer 00:06:13.30\00:06:17.81 journals. When he died, they went through his prayer journals, and they discovered 00:06:17.81\00:06:20.78 more than 50,000 specific answers to prayer that he had recorded over a period of 60 00:06:20.78\00:06:25.88 years. And I was kind of blown away by that. And then I took a 00:06:25.88\00:06:28.85 calculator and I figured out that if you and I would just make note of one to one and a 00:06:28.85\00:06:34.59 half if you can of examples or evidences that we've had per day that God was active 00:06:34.59\00:06:39.89 or interactive in our life, if we just made record of one or one and a half of those 00:06:39.89\00:06:43.50 per day, over 60 years, we would have more than 50,000 entries as 00:06:43.50\00:06:47.54 well. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And so it isn't so 00:06:47.54\00:06:49.17 overwhelming. >> It's not so overwhelming. >> It wasn't like 00:06:49.17\00:06:52.04 George Mueller really got more than everybody else. It's that 00:06:52.04\00:06:56.24 he kept a record. And like you just said, Rene, that record has a way of reaffirming you that 00:06:56.24\00:07:01.12 God's been active in your life, if you can look back at it. Because we all have down 00:07:01.12\00:07:05.02 periods. It's really good to be re-encouraged by seeing, "Hey, 00:07:05.02\00:07:08.32 Jesus hasn't left -- Look at all this." >> Absolutely. 00:07:08.32\00:07:12.13 We were packing the other day and I saw Rene packing all these 00:07:12.13\00:07:16.06 books. "What is that?" It was all her prayer journals. 00:07:16.06\00:07:18.53 So she's been keeping them over the years, and it has really 00:07:18.53\00:07:23.44 accumulated. Are there ways in which we can kind of go through and say, "This is the ways that 00:07:23.44\00:07:28.94 we know God is talking to us"? Are there different ways in 00:07:28.94\00:07:32.35 which he uses? >> Yeah, you know, in the in the Gospel of John, Jesus says that "my sheep 00:07:32.35\00:07:37.35 know my voice. They hear my voice. They follow me. 00:07:37.35\00:07:40.56 They know the shepherd's voice." And I have discovered from the Bible actually at least 00:07:40.56\00:07:46.06 seven different ways that maybe we can highlight that God uses 00:07:46.06\00:07:49.50 to communicate with us if we're learning to hear his voice. >> 00:07:49.50\00:07:52.67 Sure. >> There's way more than seven and I wouldn't want to limit people to thinking, "Oh, 00:07:52.67\00:07:55.74 there's just those seven ways." But seven may seem like more than many would think there 00:07:55.74\00:08:00.78 were, but there's way more than seven. But the first one that 00:08:00.78\00:08:04.48 comes to my mind is nature. In fact, you know, we sometimes 00:08:04.48\00:08:10.09 refer to nature, and here we are in beautiful Nova Scotia. We sometimes refer to nature 00:08:10.09\00:08:14.42 as God's second book. >> We do. >> And God's second book 00:08:14.42\00:08:19.43 was written first. This book is the second book. Nature was 00:08:19.43\00:08:25.13 written first, and in Psalms 8:3-4, the psalm says, "When I consider the heavens, the work 00:08:25.13\00:08:34.18 of your fingers, the moon and the stars that you have set in place, what is man that you are 00:08:34.18\00:08:38.28 mindful of him?" And nature is just one of the ways He speaks. 00:08:38.28\00:08:43.28 >> That's right. >> My wife, Margie -- she was going back to 00:08:43.28\00:08:48.06 school later in life. And she was stressing out, and she was 00:08:48.06\00:08:51.56 on her way to take a test, a final examination, in a very difficult class, and she was 00:08:51.56\00:08:57.03 weeping because she struggles with test anxiety. So she's under pressure. She's driving to 00:08:57.03\00:09:02.97 take this test, and she's weeping with anxiety in advance. She's already kind of, like, 00:09:02.97\00:09:06.54 starting to freeze up. She starts to pray while she's driving and crying. 00:09:06.54\00:09:10.31 So I guess you call that multitasking. [ Laughter ] 00:09:10.31\00:09:13.78 She says, "Lord, I would sure love a sign that You're gonna be with me in this test. 00:09:13.78\00:09:18.05 I just feel so anxious and troubled," and no sooner did she 00:09:18.05\00:09:22.59 say those words and she crested the top of a hill, and there's 00:09:22.59\00:09:25.56 the college right below where she's going to go take the test, and arching over the building 00:09:25.56\00:09:29.20 she's going to take the test in is a gorgeous rainbow. >> Wow. 00:09:29.20\00:09:32.53 >> And she said it just felt like God said, "Did you want a sign that I'm gonna be with you? 00:09:32.53\00:09:36.37 How about a rainbow?" She felt peace flood into her heart, and 00:09:36.37\00:09:41.14 just like that, she went into the test and did great. >> All the anxiety went away. 00:09:41.14\00:09:44.31 >> Yeah, yeah. And I don't call that one-way conversation with 00:09:44.31\00:09:47.68 God. I call it a two-way conversation, and God used nature to speak to her heart. 00:09:47.68\00:09:52.19 >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> So, the first one is nature. 00:09:52.19\00:09:55.16 Second one? >> Second one that I would like to maybe make mention 00:09:55.16\00:09:58.46 of has to do with providential circumstances. The way God leads 00:09:58.46\00:10:02.73 in your life up till now can kind of give you a trajectory of where He's taking you next if 00:10:02.73\00:10:06.77 you look back. There's -- Proverbs 3:6 says, "In all your 00:10:06.77\00:10:12.14 ways acknowledge Him." So look at the way He's been leading. 00:10:12.14\00:10:14.61 And He will direct your path. You can get that trajectory by 00:10:14.61\00:10:18.45 seeing how He's been moving you so far. >> Right, right. >> And, 00:10:18.45\00:10:22.15 you know, there's all kinds of stories I think that we can probably tell about evidences 00:10:22.15\00:10:26.15 that we've had that God was leading in our life, you know. 00:10:26.15\00:10:29.99 This thing that we're doing -- Margie and I, for the last 11 00:10:29.99\00:10:33.70 years full time, working as sort of as you might call it like a freelance revivalists 00:10:33.70\00:10:37.63 or something like that. I can still remember when we first 00:10:37.63\00:10:42.44 started, saying, "Lord I don't want to be involved in trying to 00:10:42.44\00:10:48.94 book appointments. It's just trying to generate business so 00:10:48.94\00:10:52.78 to speak." I can remember precisely it was October 22nd of 2008, I was on my knees praying. 00:10:52.78\00:10:59.65 And I was saying, "Lord --" this was very early in this ministry 00:10:59.65\00:11:02.76 that we've been doing now for 11 years -- and I was saying, "Lord, if this is a ministry you 00:11:02.76\00:11:08.40 called us to, if the providential meetings and circumstances that we thought 00:11:08.40\00:11:12.20 funnel us into doing this really were you, could I ask You to be 00:11:12.20\00:11:17.27 the booking agent? Because I just really don't have it in me 00:11:17.27\00:11:21.91 appointments." to try and line up And I said that in prayer. I got off my knees and went over 00:11:21.91\00:11:27.25 and sat at my dining room table, and my cellphone rang. And a guy said, "I'm calling to book an 00:11:27.25\00:11:31.65 appointment with you for that revival ministry seminar stuff you do. Do you have any 00:11:31.65\00:11:36.66 openings?" Got off my chair. And I said, "Do I? Actually I have a 00:11:36.66\00:11:41.60 whole slew of them." And he said, "Well, tell me about your 00:11:41.60\00:11:44.23 calendar." So I'm telling him about my calendar. And while I'm 00:11:44.23\00:11:49.44 talking to him, I get, beep-beep, call waiting on my cellphone. So I say, "Can I put 00:11:49.44\00:11:53.21 you on hold for just a minute? I'll get right back." I said, "This is Lee Venden." 00:11:53.21\00:11:55.31 And the guy says, "I'm calling to book a seminar revivalist 00:11:55.31\00:11:58.75 seminar. Do you have any openings?" Now I have chills going down my neck. 00:11:58.75\00:12:02.42 I said, "I'll call you back. I'm on the phone." Anyway, to make 00:12:02.42\00:12:06.42 that story short, this is not an exaggeration. That very same 00:12:06.42\00:12:09.26 experience happened to me five times in a row at the dining 00:12:09.26\00:12:12.89 room table without putting the phone down. >> Wow. >> Wow. 00:12:12.89\00:12:15.46 >> Every one of them came while I was on a call with the 00:12:15.46\00:12:18.53 previous guy. There's another one calling, call waiting five times in a row and every one of 00:12:18.53\00:12:22.24 them wanted to book and it all happened after I got off my knees saying, "Could You be 00:12:22.24\00:12:25.71 the booking agent?" And I call that providential circumstances. 00:12:25.71\00:12:30.01 So I don't think that God -- I thought that was two-way 00:12:30.01\00:12:33.45 communication. >> Yes, absolutely. So God is providing for your needs, and He provides 00:12:33.45\00:12:38.05 for our needs. We're going to take a quick break, and we're 00:12:38.05\00:12:42.02 going to listen to a song, and we'll be right back after that. 00:12:42.02\00:12:51.80 ¤¤ >> ¤ I want Jesus to walk with me ¤ ¤ I want Jesus 00:12:51.80\00:13:08.88 ¤ To walk with me ¤ All along this pilgrim journey ¤ 00:13:08.88\00:13:27.77 ¤ I want Jesus to walk with me ¤¤ ¤¤ 00:13:27.77\00:13:56.10 ¤¤ ¤¤ ¤¤ 00:13:56.10\00:14:23.83 ¤¤ ¤¤ ¤¤ 00:14:23.83\00:14:51.45 ¤¤ ¤¤ ¤¤ 00:14:51.45\00:15:19.15 ¤ In my sorrows, Lord, walk with me ¤ ¤ In my sorrows, Lord, walk 00:15:19.15\00:15:40.20 with me ¤ ¤ When my heart ¤ Is aching 00:15:40.20\00:15:57.29 ¤ I want Jesus ¤ To walk with me ¤ I know Jesus 00:15:57.29\00:16:15.94 ¤ Will walk with me >> ¤ Walk with me >> ¤ Walk with me 00:16:15.94\00:16:33.99 >> All: ¤ Walk with me 00:16:34.02\00:16:41.40 >> And we're back with Lee Venden. We've been talking 00:16:43.97\00:16:46.63 about prayer and how prayer can be a two-way communication. And so far, Lee, we have been 00:16:46.63\00:16:52.24 looking at how God speaks to us through nature, how he speaks to 00:16:52.24\00:16:56.64 us through providential circumstances. What's the third one? >> The third one 00:16:56.64\00:17:00.55 that I wanted to highlight has to do with music. In Psalms 00:17:00.55\00:17:04.05 40:3, it says, "He has put a new song in my mouth, a hymn of 00:17:04.05\00:17:08.52 praise to our God. Many will see and fear, and put their trust in the Lord." I think that God uses 00:17:08.52\00:17:13.06 music many times to speak a word in due season to us. >> Yes, he 00:17:13.06\00:17:17.50 does. >> You know what I mean? >> Somebody puts that tune into 00:17:17.50\00:17:22.37 my mind first. The other day I was a bit stressed as I started the day, and the Lord put this 00:17:22.37\00:17:27.71 tune in my mind, and I didn't really think about the words. And then afterwards it hit me. 00:17:27.71\00:17:31.85 The words of that song were "this is the day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice 00:17:31.85\00:17:36.58 and be glad in it." So it was like a prayer. But God was 00:17:36.58\00:17:41.82 talking to me and saying to me, "This is what you need for today." So nature, providential 00:17:41.82\00:17:46.56 circumstances, music. What's the fourth one? >> Fourth one -- 00:17:46.56\00:17:50.67 people. >> People. >> People. 1 Peter 4:10 -- "Each one 00:17:50.67\00:17:53.47 should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's 00:17:53.47\00:17:58.17 grace in its various forms." Kind of like music. God uses 00:17:58.17\00:18:01.74 people. I like to call it Jesus with skin on. You get an e-mail 00:18:01.74\00:18:06.92 from somebody, a phone call from somebody, you bump into somebody 00:18:06.92\00:18:09.85 at the store and they say, "I've been thinking about you," and they say something to you 00:18:09.85\00:18:13.59 that you realize God knew you needed to hear and He used somebody to get the 00:18:13.59\00:18:17.33 message through to you. >> Absolutely, yeah. Have you got 00:18:17.33\00:18:21.16 an experience where that has happened to you? >> Well, the first one that kind of comes to 00:18:21.16\00:18:23.83 my mind that's sort of extra exciting to me is that we were preparing to go to a very large 00:18:23.83\00:18:30.27 church near one of our revival seminars. And just before going, we got a phone call 00:18:30.27\00:18:34.34 from one of the pastors there who said, "We tape our services 00:18:34.34\00:18:39.21 with a six-camera shoot for television," and if you had a donor that would pay the cost of 00:18:39.21\00:18:44.05 taping, we can give you raw footage that you can turn into DVDs later so that you can 00:18:44.05\00:18:49.96 spread these revival messages further than you can physically. I said, "How much would 00:18:49.96\00:18:53.63 that raw footage cost?" He said it's a pretty good deal. He says, "We can give it to you 00:18:53.63\00:18:57.50 for $5,000." And I said to Margie, "I think this is something -- I want 00:18:57.50\00:19:01.90 to make some phone calls and see if we can get some people 00:19:01.90\00:19:04.57 who are interested in this ministry that we're doing to help pay for that." 00:19:04.57\00:19:08.24 And she said, "Lee, George Mueller -- remember how he only told God about needs. 00:19:08.24\00:19:12.98 He didn't tell people and God provided. That's what we've said 00:19:12.98\00:19:16.62 we wanted to do. Now, why would you change that right now?" 00:19:16.62\00:19:19.55 And I said, "Margie, it's not a sin to call somebody who said 00:19:19.55\00:19:24.26 I'd like to help." She said, "But it's not the way we've been doing it." Well, I said, "I'm 00:19:24.26\00:19:28.80 going to do it tomorrow anyway." And the kind of woman I married 00:19:28.80\00:19:34.07 -- Margie said, not to me -- she prayed about this behind my back. And she said to the Lord, 00:19:34.07\00:19:39.34 "If you want this thing to get taped, would You provide the money before Lee messes 00:19:39.34\00:19:43.11 up the deal by asking for it instead of trusting You?" She 00:19:43.11\00:19:48.22 prayed that, and the next morning we get a phone call. A woman who's attending a 00:19:48.22\00:19:51.42 seminar where we're currently going there to Lodi, California. 00:19:51.42\00:19:55.66 And she says, "Could I come by and visit you for just a few minutes?" So she comes by. 00:19:55.66\00:20:00.06 She says, "Last night I was awakened four times with the impression that I need to write 00:20:00.06\00:20:04.40 you a check for a specific amount for a project that needs 00:20:04.40\00:20:08.10 funding. The first three times, I just went back to sleep. But the fourth time, I thought, 00:20:08.10\00:20:12.11 'If I don't do this, I'm not going to get any more sleep.' So 00:20:12.11\00:20:15.78 I wrote the check, put it in an envelope. I want to give it to you right now because I want 00:20:15.78\00:20:19.15 to sleep tonight." And she said, "If you want, you can open it." 00:20:19.15\00:20:22.42 And Margie opened it up and it was $5,000. >> Wow. 00:20:22.42\00:20:25.62 >> Wow. >> So God used that lady. Also used Marjorie. 00:20:25.62\00:20:29.82 >> Yeah. >> Margie, yeah. >> Margie, sorry. 00:20:29.82\00:20:34.00 So God uses people. >> That's right. Just another way, and I'm 00:20:34.00\00:20:37.73 sure everybody can tell stories. >> How people -- >> People, 00:20:37.73\00:20:42.20 absolutely. >> What's the next one? >> Okay, the next one -- I was inspired reading 00:20:42.20\00:20:47.41 Proverbs 25:11. "A word fitly spoken or written is like apples 00:20:47.41\00:20:52.51 of gold in pictures of silver." Have you ever had the experience where you're reading a good 00:20:52.51\00:20:56.22 book, and you just kind of opened to the last place you were to bookmark and start again 00:20:56.22\00:21:01.96 and that page of that chapter spoke to your heart almost as 00:21:01.96\00:21:06.26 though you could hear God saying, "Hey, this one's for you today." Have you ever had that? 00:21:06.26\00:21:09.73 >> Oh, I've had that experience. So, a little while ago, my 00:21:09.73\00:21:13.90 mother gave me a devotional book that her great-grandmother used. 00:21:13.90\00:21:18.37 And it's called "Streams in the Desert." It's an old book. It was written in the 1930s or 00:21:18.37\00:21:22.74 something. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah, so it's really old. 00:21:22.74\00:21:25.95 The paper and everything is old and the writing is very much 00:21:25.95\00:21:30.05 still -- >> Faded. >> Not faded. >> Oh, it's that old script. 00:21:30.05\00:21:33.82 >> It's the old English. Right? Yeah. 00:21:33.82\00:21:36.73 And so, anyway, one day I was just feeling so discouraged and 00:21:36.73\00:21:42.16 down, and I opened up to the day of that devotional -- >> The day you were on for that 00:21:42.16\00:21:46.70 day? >> Yeah. So I opened it up, 00:21:46.70\00:21:48.77 and it was just like "Are you feeling discouraged? Are you feeling down and you 00:21:48.77\00:21:55.88 feel like you're being sucked into this dark, deep pit?" And I was just like, "This is 00:21:55.88\00:22:02.32 me." Right? And then just -- God -- I knew 00:22:02.32\00:22:05.49 God was speaking to me and saying, "You know what? I'm with you and I'm gonna lift 00:22:05.49\00:22:10.96 you out of this." And so it was just so -- it just made me cry 00:22:10.96\00:22:15.83 because it was just -- I knew He was speaking to me. That was just what I needed for 00:22:15.83\00:22:20.20 that day. >> That's what I'm talking about. 00:22:20.20\00:22:22.94 >> Exactly. >> So what's the next one on your list? 00:22:22.94\00:22:26.91 >> The next one is scripture. >> Scripture. >> Yeah. 00:22:26.91\00:22:30.28 If these were in order of importance, this would be first. 00:22:30.28\00:22:32.85 >> Yes. >> Because there's no better way to hear the voice of 00:22:32.85\00:22:36.18 God than His word. It's called the word of God. >> Yeah. >> 00:22:36.18\00:22:39.89 Yeah. >> So God speaks to us directly through His word. I can 00:22:39.89\00:22:43.93 think of a time this happened to me recently. I mean, we were, you know, Rene and I 00:22:43.93\00:22:48.00 are going through this move, and so we're going to Ontario, but 00:22:48.00\00:22:51.23 we're leaving British Columbia. We've been living there for 12 00:22:51.23\00:22:54.00 years. And it really hit me one day, and it's a nice kind of a move and transition and 00:22:54.00\00:23:01.34 everything. But here I am -- there's no beautiful mountains in Ontario where we were. 00:23:01.34\00:23:07.08 And it was just discouraging for me. And so I was praying to God. 00:23:07.08\00:23:11.15 And I picked up my Bible in the morning and I was reading in 00:23:11.15\00:23:15.26 Genesis in the sequence I was following. And I was just saying, "Lord, why did you send 00:23:15.26\00:23:20.46 us here?" And the very words I read from the scripture -- >> Right after you said, "Why 00:23:20.46\00:23:23.53 did you send us here?" >> Right after I said "Why did you send 00:23:23.53\00:23:27.64 us here?" The words that I read from the page, and I kind of get 00:23:27.64\00:23:31.04 emotional when I think about it is, "The Lord said, 'I am sending you to the land of your 00:23:31.04\00:23:36.44 father,'" and, you know, my dad was from Ontario. And I was born 00:23:36.44\00:23:45.05 in Ontario, in Sudbury, Ontario. And so I was like, "Wow." You know, this is -- yeah, 00:23:45.05\00:23:49.49 this is -- >> So it's like he was saying, "I know your address 00:23:49.49\00:23:52.49 and I know where I'm sending you, and I have my reasons, and don't forget -- this is where 00:23:52.49\00:23:56.53 you came from." >> And he wrote that thousands of years ago. 00:23:56.53\00:24:00.27 But he had an appointment with me that day and he was speaking 00:24:00.27\00:24:03.77 to me personally. So scripture. What's another one? >> Well, you 00:24:03.77\00:24:08.24 know I'm just given seven here at the moment. And this takes us 00:24:08.24\00:24:11.98 to our final one. >> Oh, our final one. >> Yeah, number seven. It's thoughts and 00:24:11.98\00:24:16.79 impressions. And I kind of go back to the point where he says 00:24:16.79\00:24:20.52 in John chapter 10 that "my sheep know my voice." >> Yes. >> "They hear my voice. 00:24:20.52\00:24:24.49 And they follow me." and sometimes his voice is in a 00:24:24.49\00:24:27.46 whisper. >> Yes. >> And that's what I'm describing as thoughts 00:24:27.46\00:24:30.67 or impressions. >> Okay. So there could be a bit of a 00:24:30.67\00:24:33.64 warning there because you could have thoughts and impressions and, "Am I sure that this 00:24:33.64\00:24:38.34 is really from God?" >> That's true. Yeah, I think it's 00:24:38.34\00:24:42.61 important that you're grounded in a daily walk with Jesus before you start assuming 00:24:42.61\00:24:47.18 thoughts and impressions could have been from Him. >> 00:24:47.18\00:24:49.62 Absolutely. So, when you're in that connection with him, then those thoughts and impressions, 00:24:49.62\00:24:56.66 you still want to test them to make sure that God is speaking 00:24:56.66\00:24:59.89 to you. >> Uh-huh. But I think if you've been learning to hear 00:24:59.89\00:25:02.53 His voice in all these other ways, which are far more common than the one I'm referring to 00:25:02.53\00:25:07.04 now, and you're, like you said, grounded, then it's safe. Then and only then is it safe 00:25:07.04\00:25:11.97 to consider that this was an impression from God. >> Yes. 00:25:11.97\00:25:14.64 So do you have an experience? >> Well, yeah, I can remember one 00:25:14.64\00:25:19.65 time a woman gave me a book to read. It was a book called 00:25:19.65\00:25:23.55 "Him," H-I-M. And it was written by a guy named Kenneth Fields. She said to me, "This is a 00:25:23.55\00:25:27.82 short -- these are short -- Each chapter is a short imaginative 00:25:27.82\00:25:33.03 sort of sanctified imagination on the life of Christ based on passages in the scriptures." 00:25:33.03\00:25:37.63 And she said, "I wanted to give you this book because I know you 00:25:37.63\00:25:40.37 love stories about Jesus, and these are well-written and 00:25:40.37\00:25:43.47 they'll move you." And she said, "The sad thing is Kenneth Fields had some some tragic things 00:25:43.47\00:25:47.91 happen in his life, and he kind of lost heart." He ended up 00:25:47.91\00:25:51.41 leaving his family, leaving his job, leaving his church, leaving God, and just going, you know, 00:25:51.41\00:25:55.18 who knows where? In fact, she said, "We don't even know -- 00:25:55.18\00:25:57.65 The people who know him and are friends of his" because she 00:25:57.65\00:26:00.69 said, "I went to school with him when I was in college. We've lost track of him, and 00:26:00.69\00:26:03.19 he sort of vanished off the face of the Earth, although someone 00:26:03.19\00:26:06.73 said recently, 'I think he might be out in the Olympic Peninsula of the West Coast of the state 00:26:06.73\00:26:10.37 of Washington.'" Anyway, she said, "Give me the book back 00:26:10.37\00:26:13.60 when you're done because it's out of print and I can't afford to give it to you." 00:26:13.60\00:26:18.97 Well, I left the book sitting on a shelf in my office for 2 1/2 00:26:18.97\00:26:23.68 years. I didn't do it on purpose. I just left it sitting there and forgot about it. 00:26:23.68\00:26:26.75 And then one day, 2 1/2 years later, I see this little book 00:26:26.75\00:26:30.29 sitting there. And I think, "Oh, my word. I haven't read it yet. And she said give it back 00:26:30.29\00:26:33.59 when you're done. She probably thinks I'm a very slow reader." 00:26:33.59\00:26:36.42 So I started to read. And the very first chap-- the second 00:26:36.42\00:26:41.83 chapter I read moved me so much. When I finished, I had tears in 00:26:41.83\00:26:45.67 my eyes like you were talking about, Rene. And just then an impression came into my head. 00:26:45.67\00:26:49.24 It said, "Call Kenneth Fields right now and tell him how much this book means to you." 00:26:49.24\00:26:52.61 And I thought, "What? I don't know Kenneth Fields. I don't know where he lives." 00:26:52.61\00:26:56.75 It was like, "Call Information." So I dialed the area code for the Olympic Peninsula. 00:26:56.75\00:27:03.18 And I said, "I'm looking for a guy named Kenneth Fields." They gave me two phone numbers. 00:27:03.18\00:27:06.62 I thought, "Well, I'll try this one first because it's closer to 00:27:06.62\00:27:10.53 where I am. Guy answers the phone. I said, "Are you Kenneth Fields? He says yes. 00:27:10.53\00:27:13.33 I said, "Don't hang up on me. I'm Lee Venden, and you don't 00:27:13.33\00:27:16.43 know me. And I'm not a telemarketer. But I want to ask you did you ever write a book 00:27:16.43\00:27:20.94 called 'Him?'" He said, "I did." >> Wow. >> And I said, "Well, 00:27:20.94\00:27:23.74 God just told me I should call you and tell you how much it meant to me 'cause I just read 00:27:23.74\00:27:27.94 the first two chapters, and it moved me to tears," and he started crying on the other end. 00:27:27.94\00:27:33.21 He said, "Have you ever heard the story of the prodigal son and how he went into the far 00:27:33.21\00:27:36.48 country?" He said, "I've out-prodigaled the prodigal 00:27:36.48\00:27:40.06 times 10, and it is very lonely in the far country, and I have wanted to go home but 00:27:40.06\00:27:44.23 I don't think you can go back when you're as far gone as me. And I said, 'Just this morning, 00:27:44.23\00:27:48.63 for the first time in probably 10 years, I knelt down and I said, "God, if you hear 00:27:48.63\00:27:53.10 prodigals as far gone as this one, I'd like to come home but I feel like such a zero. 00:27:53.10\00:27:58.04 If You could just give me some sense that I've ever done anything that was a value 00:27:58.04\00:28:01.54 to You, it would give me courage right now." No sooner did I say 00:28:01.54\00:28:05.05 that, I'm on my knees, the phone rings and you say, 'I have a 00:28:05.05\00:28:10.85 message from God. You wrote a book that touched me deeply.'" He said, "Lee Venden, 00:28:10.85\00:28:13.66 whoever you are, I'll be in church this coming week and this 00:28:13.66\00:28:16.02 prodigal is going home." >> Wow. >> Yeah. 00:28:16.02\00:28:19.09 Just an impression. >> So God speaks to us. God speaks to us. 00:28:19.09\00:28:24.27 Friend, if you have been encouraged to speak to God, I just want to encourage you 00:28:24.27\00:28:30.74 that He wants to speak to you. >> Amen. >> So I just want to 00:28:30.74\00:28:35.51 remind you of the words of Jesus when he said to us, "It is written: 'Man shall not live by 00:28:35.51\00:28:40.82 bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of 00:28:40.82\00:28:47.36 God.'" ¤¤ ¤¤ 00:28:47.39\00:28:59.33