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00:11 ♪ >> Dear friend, thank you so 00:18 much for watching "It Is Written Canada." 00:21 I am joined in studio today by Dr. Neil Nedley. 00:25 Thank you, Dr. Nedley, for being here again today. >> Thank you. 00:28 It's great to be here. >> Now, Dr. Nedley, we've talked a number of times about the 00:33 different things that you have happening in your life. Very excited about your books. 00:38 I've actually been able to read a number of your books -- "Proof Positive," 00:41 "The Lost Art of Thinking," "Depression: The Way Out," and "Optimizing Your Brain." 00:47 Dr. Nedley, you're also an internal-medicine doctor with specialization in G.I. but also 00:54 in the brain, and we talked a little bit the last time. Maybe expand a little bit about 01:00 how those two things are so closely related. 01:04 >> It's interesting that we have people that come to our -- 01:08 You know, we have a Depression and Anxiety Recovery Program, 01:11 and we have so many that come with G.I. issues. 01:13 And, you know, anxiety can cause you to, you know, have nausea. It can cause you to have 01:22 abdominal pain after eating. And, you know, one of the issues that I tend to see is a lot of 01:29 anxiety-related abdominal pain. And the patient will often say to me, "Dr. Nedley, the reason 01:37 why I'm having anxiety is because of my pain. If you would take care of my 01:42 pain, the anxiety would go away." And then I'll ask them a 01:45 question. "Well, what things help your pain?" 01:48 "Well, Xanax helps my pain. Lorazepam helps my pain. Valium helps my pain. 01:55 Clonazepam helps my pain." And, of course, those are benzos. 01:58 Those are not doing anything to the G.I. tract. They're actually alleviating 02:02 anxiety, and so that's kind of proof positive that this is not just a G.I. issue. 02:10 It's a brain issue. And so, often, they're coming to us for anxiety-related abdominal 02:16 pain through our Anxiety Recovery Program, and, as a result of getting on much 02:21 better choices than benzos, they're able to have their pain completely go away, their 02:28 anxiety is relived, and they're also benzo-free, as well. So, it's very much an honor and 02:33 a privilege to be able to help these patients that have had pain for so many years and so 02:38 many problems and solve them. >> And we've been in the midst of a series, "Optimizing Your 02:45 Brain," optimizing brain chemistry, and the benefits of that are far-reaching. 02:50 We're gonna come back to that, but I want to talk about -- You said you offer some 02:55 programs. Talk to me. Where are these programs, and 02:57 how might somebody learn about them and what are some of the programs you're offering? 03:01 >> Okay. Well, we have a program called Depression and Anxiety Recovery Program. 03:07 It's a residential program where they do the first 10 or 11 days with us. 03:11 Mostly we do it at Weimar Institute, although we are starting to expand on the 03:16 East Coast, and our plan is, within a year or so, we might actually have programs right 03:22 here in Canada that are being run. You know, interestingly, we've 03:26 never had a program at Weimar where we haven't had Canadians there. 03:31 Every single program, we have Canadians that are there, and that's why we know there would 03:36 be a great interest if we could actually start a program here in Canada. 03:40 The program is 20 weeks, but you do the first 10 to 11 days with us, and then we supervise it 03:45 throughout the rest of the 20 weeks in their home setting, and it's a program to not just 03:52 control depression and anxiety but to completely but to completely eradicate it. 03:56 And we have found out that mental illness can indeed be eradicated. 04:01 The world thinks that we just have to kind of alter its course because it can't be cured. 04:07 Nature magazine said the way we're treating depression and anxiety today, there's more 04:12 likely a chance you'll be cured from cancer than from depression and anxiety, because these 04:17 medications have their limitations and they're not really cure type of drugs. 04:24 But once we got to the underlying cause and can treat the brain chemistry in a natural 04:29 way, which is what you're trying to emphasize by these programs, what a difference it makes, and 04:36 so it's actually -- The most enjoyable thing I do is to help people that are 04:41 treatment-resistant depression and anxiety have it eradicated in less than 20 weeks. 04:47 >> And we've talked about this before in some of our previous programs, and to our viewer, 04:52 Dr. Nedley and I did an entire series called "Depression: The Way Out." 04:56 If you'd like to get that program, you can go to YouTube -- 04:59 youtube.com/iiwcanada -- or you can call our office -- 905-404-6510 -- 05:08 and you can get that series of programs, but, Dr. Nedley, let's talk about the effectiveness of 05:16 your in-residence program. First let's talk about the effectiveness of medications, 05:23 and you've given me the statistic before. How effective are medications in 05:26 treating depression and anxiety? >> In real-world clinical settings, they're effective 05:31 about 27% of the time. Now, they can improve symptoms maybe 55%, 60%, 05:38 some drug-company studies show maybe 70%, but by improving, that means you go from severe 05:46 depression down to still severe depression but not as severe as it was before -- maybe going 05:52 from a 27 to a 22. But that's not really a response rate. 05:57 We're looking for response rates where the depression scores go to at least less than half, and 06:05 medications just don't have that ability except in a smaller percentage of cases. 06:13 Even in those cases where they do improve it, there's other things besides medicines that 06:17 are having a role to play, and one of the issues with medicine -- it gets into brain 06:21 chemistry. One of the issues is, although they can improve mood and crying 06:27 spells -- you know, women particularly like the SSRIs, particularly if they're 06:32 undermethylators that we talked about earlier -- a genetic issue -- because their crying 06:37 spells go away, but they feel more numb to life. In other words, things that they 06:44 should be getting emotional about and intervening in, they just feel blah and more flat, 06:51 and, as a result, their husband might be gambling away their retirement, but it's like, 06:57 "Who cares?" And then, after it's all gone, it's like, "Wow! Why didn't I do 07:01 something about that?" or "Why didn't I try to get him help or whatever?" 07:07 And so that "I don't care" attitude produces its consequences, and then it also 07:13 worsens impulsivity, and so it improves mood while worsening impulsivity and causing an 07:19 "I don't care" attitude. If we're really correcting the brain chemistry in the 07:23 natural, healthiest ways, we're gonna improve everything. We're not gonna have some bad 07:29 effects and some good effects, and that's why, of course, these things have to be prescribed by 07:33 doctors, because we're always having to weigh benefits and risks, and is it too risky to 07:38 utilize these drugs? In addition, because they worsen impulsivity, they actually have 07:44 black-box warnings that increase the risk of suicide, and so, you know, as a doctor, sometimes 07:49 I've utilized these medicines. I'm not talking against them carte blanche, but I am saying 07:54 there are far better approaches for treating the common mental illnesses that we have today, 08:00 and they can produce beautiful side effects and only positive effects. 08:05 >> And the effectiveness -- and we're gonna touch on a few last things about your program -- 08:12 but the program there that you offer at Weimar, the in-residence program, and that 08:15 is also gonna be looking to be offered on the East Coast and then up here in Canada -- what 08:20 kind of improvements are you seeing there? What kind of percentages of 08:23 individuals are being helped? >> About 99% experience improvement and a response rate 08:30 of about 95%, and that means less than 50% from what their score was coming in, and that's 08:38 just the 10-day results. Now, if we talk about the 20-week results, they're even 08:43 better than that, so within two weeks of going home, the results are even better. 08:49 And so, in fact, that's why it's getting a lot of press and there's been a lot of 08:55 publication of it, because we finally have a way of treating depression and anxiety that can 09:01 eradicate it and eliminate it. >> That is so exciting, and, Dr. Nedley, if somebody wanted 09:06 to learn about that program -- when the next program is offered, how to get to that 09:10 program -- where would they find that information? >> Depressionrecovery.com or 09:15 depressionthewayout.com would be a great way to do this. I also can give the number for 09:21 our nurse case manager. In fact, they can hook up if we have the Canadian program by the 09:26 time you're watching this. They would know about that and they'd be able to hook you up 09:31 for whatever program. But our nurse case manager's number is 580-226-8007, and she 09:38 can deal with the East Coast program, West Coast, Canadian, and we're also starting a 09:43 program in New Zealand and Australia. I don't know if your program is 09:46 watched in New Zealand and Australia. >> It is. It is. 09:48 >> And so, hopefully, we'll have many sites, eventually, in the next 10 years so that there'll 09:56 be more access to people who need the program. >> Well, Dr. Nedley, we could 10:02 talk a long time about that. You and I have shared -- There have been a number of our 10:07 own viewers who had made the decision to come to the in-residence program and have 10:12 seen phenomenal results. The programs that we did together, 10:15 "Depression: The Way Out," are the most watched programs that "It Is Written Canada" has 10:19 experienced, and it is a phenomenal thing to hear people say things like, "There was no 10:25 light at the end of the tunnel, but today I see that there's hope," and you read about 10:30 individuals who just happened -- and I don't believe in just happening. 10:35 I believe there is providence that God led someone to flip the channel and they talk about how 10:42 that day they had made a decision that they were going to commit suicide, but this 10:49 transformed their thinking. So, thank you for sharing about the program. 10:52 So, Dr. Nedley, we've talked about genetics and that genetics -- just because you've 10:58 been dealt a bad deck doesn't mean -- or a bad hand, rather -- doesn't mean that you are 11:03 stricken with that for the rest of your life. You can really experience 11:07 change. But let's talk about beyond genes. 11:12 Are there -- There are hormonal issues that sometimes happen when we talk about the brain not 11:19 functioning properly. Let's talk about that a little bit. 11:23 What's happening there? How are genetics related to the hormones? 11:27 What's happening there? >> Okay. Well, premenstrual dysphoria, or sometimes it's 11:33 called PMS or premenstrual syndrome -- this is a hormonally related depression. 11:39 The woman's feeling good, and the ovulation comes, and when the progesterone kicks in, 11:45 they're sensitive to the progesterone, and their mood sours. 11:49 We've had individuals that have come to our program where their families can tell the moment 11:54 that they ovulate because there's such a difference in their mood and personality when 12:01 that happens, and their irritability factor goes up. So, this also -- people who are 12:06 prone to PMS also tend to be prone to postpartum depression, and so whenever there's hormonal 12:14 changes, they have a tendency to have this significant, overwhelming depression set in. 12:21 And it turns out they are being triggered by a bad gene that they have. 12:27 It's actually their ability to handle metals that sets this off, and that could be a genetic 12:35 issue. Some of us can handle metals more so than others, and we need 12:39 to have certain trace minerals that are metals, like zinc and those sorts of things. 12:46 But if we're not able to handle particularly copper and some of these other metals too well and 12:51 carry them, the free copper levels go up, and when that happens, our tyrosine, which is 12:58 supposed to be balanced and turning into norepinephrine and dopamine -- 13:02 Just a little bit of background -- norepinephrine is what provides our memory and 13:07 focus and energy, and dopamine is what produces our interests and enjoyment in life. 13:13 But when there's too much copper, it'll drive it into too high a norepinephrine level and 13:20 too low a dopamine level, and if our norepinephrine level gets too high, it's very stressful, 13:27 and we become very irritable. And these are people that have a lot of sensitivities that can be 13:36 sensitive to sights and to sounds and to also be sensitive to metals. 13:41 They won't be able to wear cheap jewelry, for instance, because of the metal sensitivities, and 13:47 they'll tend to be more prone to PMS. Fortunately, that can be treated 13:53 through natural means. A lot of people think, "Well, wait a minute. 13:58 I have to just take these SSRIs," 'cause that's often how it's -- 14:01 You know, they'll go to the psychiatrist, and they're putting them on antidepressants 14:06 that plug those serotonin channels. And, yeah, it can help it a 14:09 little bit, but it's not gonna really eradicate the PMS. It just kind of takes the edge 14:13 off of it. But we can actually eradicate the PMS by bringing that copper 14:19 level down through bringing zinc levels up and B6 levels up. And when zinc and B6 go up, 14:27 copper levels can be handled much better, and the person can actually have the whole 14:33 hormonal-depression issue eradicated. >> Well, that would be, I think, 14:38 very exciting news to a number of our viewers. Over 60% of our viewers are 14:44 women, and so let's talk a little bit about this. How would, then, someone help 14:49 bring that copper level down and those zinc levels up and bring balance? 14:55 What would an individual need to do? >> Well, there are some dietary 14:59 things. Fortunately, zinc is not something that you can get toxic 15:04 in very much. Copper is. Now, we need small amounts of 15:08 copper, but we don't need the amounts of copper that these hormonally related-depression 15:13 women have. And so we can actually bring it down by high-zinc foods. 15:20 Peanuts are a high-zinc food. Sesame seeds are actually at the top of the list as far as zinc 15:27 is concerned. And some of the seeds like pumpkin seeds, those type of 15:32 things, can make a difference Now, some individuals,we might actually recommend, because 15:38 their copper levels are so high, their free copper levels, that they get out of zinc supplement. 15:43 But a little cautionary note -- just going out and buying zinc supplements, if we bring the 15:49 copper level down too quick, the person will actually get even more anxious because it's 15:54 like drug withdrawal. And when your body's used to copper levels being this high 15:59 and they come down too quick, you can actually think you're getting worse by taking the 16:04 zinc. And so that's why we like to know where their copper levels 16:09 are at and give them small amounts of zinc over time and then build up on that zinc, and 16:14 it's something that might take weeks to correct that way, but that way the person doesn't get 16:20 into the problems of the rapid copper changes in their bloodstream. 16:24 >> Before an individual that is not at an extremely high copper level -- that individual can eat 16:32 some more peanuts and some more sesame seeds and, over time, actually see that copper come 16:38 down and find more balance in their hormonal activity? >> That's right, and then more 16:46 B6. B6 works together to be able to increase what we call 16:50 ceruloplasma, which is something that the copper can bind onto. And these people genetically 16:57 have low ceruloplasma levels in relationship to the copper, and so these would be foods like 17:04 sweet red bell peppers are good sources of B6. And that can also help them, 17:11 as well. >> You know, and I've said this before, Dr. Nedley, and I don't 17:16 mean to make a joke out of it, but I always like talking to you about the problems. 17:20 The problems seem to involve eating good, tasty food. And so someone who is listening 17:28 and hearing this and saying, "You know, I think I do have hormonal-related depression," 17:33 they can begin adding these foods into their diet that will help in that area. 17:39 Are there any other nutritional factors or lifestyle factors that can help in this 17:45 hormonal-related depression that then once an individual's depressed, their mind isn't 17:50 working properly, and the mind's not working properly has multiple effects on their life. 17:55 Are there other nutritional or lifestyle factors that they can address? 18:00 >> There are. Soy, for instance, helps this condition, as well. 18:04 That's another nutritional factor. For several reasons, it's also 18:08 higher in tryptophan. And getting enough tryptophan can also help. 18:13 Light therapy has been shown to be very beneficial in hormonally related depression. 18:18 Now, with the light therapy, normally we recommend it in the morning, which we still do 18:22 in hormonally related depression to help reset the circadian rhythm, but this would be a 18:27 medical-grade light box that the women also use for just a small exposure, maybe 15 minutes, at 18:33 about 7:00 p.m. every night, and that can also really help this hormonally related depression. 18:40 And, of course, physical exercise helps virtually all of these different forms, and 18:45 physical exercise can be helpful, as well. >> Now, we've talked a lot about 18:51 women and hormonally related depression. Can men have depression that's 18:57 related to hormones? >> They can from low testosterone, and, of course, 19:02 this is one of the big things that some people are capitalizing on. 19:07 They're recommending all men measure their testosterone levels, and if you have low T, 19:11 they're wanting to give you testosterone shots or testosterone creams or these 19:17 type of things. But testosterone shots have their side effects. 19:21 They actually make more estrogen, can become more irritable. 19:25 It's far better for our bodies to produce more testosterone because what the body produces 19:31 by the brain telling it to produce it. And, by the way, our 19:35 hormone-control center in the brain for both female hormones and male hormones is right here 19:40 in the brain, so if we fix the brain, we actually get better testosterone output. 19:46 And so the interesting thing is light therapy helps men double their testosterone levels. 19:54 Just an hour of medical-grade light therapy in the morning will more than double their 20:00 testosterone, will help their libido, will help their energy, their focus, and make them have 20:09 more positive masculine traits. And that's pretty good, actually, instead of having to 20:16 take these hormone shots. The other thing that men are not aware of and they're not being 20:21 told is if they are having too frequent orgasmic activity, that drives down the testosterone 20:28 levels, or if it's supersensory orgasmic activity, and so men need to slow down on that area. 20:36 It takes seven days after that event for your testosterone to spike, and so if you wait longer 20:42 for intimacy and those type of things, you will actually be able to increase your 20:48 testosterone. If you go two weeks, it increases it even more, and so 20:54 slowing down on what some men think they need every day actually will help their brain 21:00 in a lot of different ways. >> That's very fascinating. And so, Dr. Nedley, these are 21:05 all related to optimal brain function, and let's come back around. 21:10 What about those that are having some learning disabilities, poor readers? 21:15 Any help there? >> Absolutely, yes. The learning disabilities tend 21:20 to be related to a pyrrole disorder. These are people that really 21:24 don't like to read. They've been advanced in school even though they've been near 21:29 the bottom of the class. They have poor stress control. And they're also sensitive to a 21:36 lot of things. These also tend to be where your autistic people are at, as well, 21:42 and those people actually get better with antioxidants, and they also improve with zinc and 21:49 B6, so what we said earlier about hormonally related depression also helps this type 21:56 of depression or anxiety, which is the pyrrole disorder style. >> Yes. 22:02 >> And the amazing thing is once we give them the antioxidants they need and the amount of zinc 22:07 and B6, they will start to get better within a week. You know, the hormonally related 22:13 ones -- that takes maybe four to eight weeks if we're gonna balance it out. 22:17 But with the learning disability, they'll notice that their brain starts to improve 22:22 within a week, and it'll have a very nice effect in about four weeks' time, and these are the 22:30 antioxidant. Minerals can also help, like selenium that is present in 22:34 whole grains. In fact, one of the problems with the gluten-free diet is 22:39 we're getting less selenium in the diet. And so we're seeing sometimes 22:44 more learning disabilities as a result of not enough selenium or these antioxidants. 22:50 >> And so what are some sources of antioxidants for someone who has a learning disability or has 22:56 a child with a learning disability and they want to increase those antioxidants, the 23:00 B6, the zinc? What are some sources? >> Actually, there's the top 23:07 five antioxidant fruits. Plums are number give. >> Okay. 23:12 >> And the rest are berries -- raspberries, blackberries, actually strawberries, and the 23:21 top of the list is blueberries -- top antioxidant fruit. 23:26 And the top vegetables -- your broccoli is up there in the top. Spinach is there at the top. 23:35 Kale is number two. And number one is garlic -- the number-one antioxidant 23:42 vegetable. So, as we load the patient up with antioxidants and, at the 23:48 same time, we give them enough zinc and B6 to take care of what we call their pyrrole disorder, 23:54 we can see that brain start to normalize. >> And this is so encouraging, 24:01 Dr. Nedley. We've got three real categories here. 24:05 There are those women that have hormonally related depression or stress and anxiety. 24:11 There is hope for them, and that hope is found in some nutritional and lifestyle 24:18 adjustments -- getting some light therapy, getting some exercise, then initially getting 24:25 some B6 and zinc, and where can we get those B6 and the zinc, just as a review? 24:29 >> Well, sweet red bell peppers are a great source, and then your seeds are gonna have a lot 24:34 of the zinc, and so this would be hemp seeds. Peanuts actually are a pretty 24:40 good source. And sesame seeds are up there at the top. 24:44 >> And then for men, they can also have hormonally related depression, stress, and anxiety. 24:50 This is often due to low testosterone. That testosterone can be 24:55 addressed through light therapy. We didn't talk about any nutritional factors there. 25:01 Any nutritional factors on low testosterone? >> Well, walnuts actually can 25:08 help, flax, pecans. Blueberries actually can help with this some, as well. 25:15 >> And then, lastly, those that are suffering with learning disabilities, poor readers, can 25:21 find that help in also the nutritionally addressed issues of upping the antioxidants -- 25:28 your blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, blackberries -- as well as seeing the zinc and the 25:34 B6 increased, as well. >> Correct, and maybe some selenium. 25:38 >> And some selenium, which comes through grains. >> Right. 25:41 >> Dr. Nedley, we are almost out of time. In the last minute, maybe just 25:46 give a word of hope, a word of encouragement, to that individual that really wants to 25:52 see their brain chemistry optimized that they might have a life to its fullest. 25:58 >> Well, you're not stuck with the brain you're born with, nor the bad genes that you might 26:04 have inherited. We can actually turn off these bad genes through good 26:09 nutritional and lifestyle factors, and we can actually normalize brain chemistry 26:14 through natural means and produce what we call positive neuroplasticity, which can be a 26:22 launching pad for emotional health as well as intellectual health. 26:27 >> And, you know, Dr. Nedley, with that, we're going to have a prayer because that is the 26:32 desire of Jesus. The desire of Jesus is that we would be in good health. 26:37 >> That's right. >> Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we thank you so 26:41 much that You have made our bodies in such a way that You know and actually can give us 26:50 the instructions on how to best take care of them. Lord, please, change us and 26:55 transform us that we might be more like your Son Jesus. We pray in Jesus' name. Amen. 27:02 >> Amen. >> Dear friend, we have been on a journey together seeing how 27:09 God has created our brains in such a way that they can be optimized when we take care of 27:16 them the way He has given us to take care of them. Now, I hope that you've enjoyed 27:22 these programs, and for today's offer, I will offer you a DVD of these three programs where you 27:28 can review what Dr. Nedley and I have talked about and you can experience optimized brain 27:35 chemistry. Here's the information you need to receive today's offer. 27:39 >> To request today's offer, just log on to 27:43 www.ItIsWrittenCanada.ca. If you prefer, you may call 27:48 toll-free at 1-888-CALL-IIW. And thank you for your prayer 27:54 requests and your generous financial support. 27:56 >> Dr. Nedley, thank you again for joining us on "It Is Written Canada." 28:01 >> Thanks for having me, Chris. >> Dear friend, Jesus said that He came that we might have life 28:08 and life more abundantly. I hope today that you have found hope in Jesus, the giver of that 28:15 abundant life. I invite you to join us again next week. 28:18 Until then, remember "It is written: 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by 28:24 every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" 28:30 ♪ ♪ 28:42 ♪ ♪ |
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