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CHRIS: Dear friends, thank you
so much for joining. I will tell
you, we have been on such a
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journey. We've been to Chile, to
Peru, to Brazil, to Chile, to
Costa Rica, and ending in
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Canada. Now, if you're sitting
there confused saying, "I have
no idea what you're talking
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about," I want to encourage you
to go to itiswrittencanada.ca,
and there you can watch the last
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two programs where I have
interviewed Pastor Manuel
Donoso. Pastor Donoso has an
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incredible story, and today we
finish that journey. Pastor
Donoso has also written a book,
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his autobiography, A Risk
Taker's Journey. At the end of
the show, I'll tell you how you
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can get your own copy of that
book. Pastor Donoso, thank you
so much for joining us once
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again. PASTOR DONOSO: You're
welcome, Chris. CHRIS: You know,
Pastor Donoso, this has been a
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phenomenal journey. A little
confusing, because you're here,
there, and everywhere. But the
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overarching theme, the
overarching importance of your
journey is this: While you may
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not have recognized it, God was
doing specific things in your
life to guide you along the way.
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And where we left the last show
is right here in Canada. You end
up in Canada. Where do you end
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up in Canada and what are you
doing once you end up in Canada?
PASTOR DONOSO: Well, as I said,
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I met the Canadian consul in
Costa Rica while I was planning
to go to New Jersey. But they in
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turn, they convinced me to come
to Canada instead. And so I came
to Ottawa planning to study
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poultry. They told me there was
a college here in Ottawa, but it
turned out it was in the
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outskirts and it wasn't really a
college. So I ended up not
studying what I wanted to, and
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the reason I came to Canada. So
I was here and got a job and
eventually met my wife, a
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Canadian, beautiful girl that I
said in the book that looked
like an angel. CHRIS: Okay. Now,
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we need to hit a pause button,
because the last we left your
story, there was a woman
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pursuing you who met you in the
Amazon jungle. And it sounds
even too good to be true, but a
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woman who met you in the Amazon
jungle who followed you down to
Chile, but you weren't in Chile,
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you were in Brazil, and then you
end up in Canada. Now, is this
the same. this is not the same
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woman because you said your wife
is Canadian. So this woman is,
fade to the background. PASTOR
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DONOSO: Yes. CHRIS: Now you meet
a new lady. And this new lady
eventually becomes your wife
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here in Canada. PASTOR DONOSO:
That's correct. CHRIS: And it
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was happily ever after, marital
bliss in your life. PASTOR
DONOSO: I wish I could say that,
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but that was not the case. We
came from two different
backgrounds and the marriage was
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soon in trouble. And one of the
reasons - and this is perhaps a
good counsel - my dream was now
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go back to Chile to start my
poultry farm. We had the land,
we had. I could have got the
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money as well. And so we, after
being married for four years, we
went back to Chile with my wife,
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and she loved it there. My
parents got a nanny for the
children. We had two children at
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the time. And so at the end of
the visit, I said, "So, you love
Chile?" "Yeah, I love Chile." So
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we are coming to live here." And
she said, "No." I said, "No? Why
not?" And she said, "It's not my
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country." But that was the last
straw in the marriage, because I
was very resentful of the fact
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that she was not even
considering going back to Chile.
CHRIS: I want to hit just a
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little pause button now. Pastor
Donoso, you came from a home
that had been rocked by marital
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issues. Did your parents stay
married during their whole life?
PASTOR DONOSO: Yeah, yeah, they
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did. CHRIS: So your parents
never divorced, but you've come
from a home that has been quite
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challenged in its marriage and
parenting and all of this kind
of stuff. Now, fast forward a
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number of years. You're married,
you're ready to live your dream
to run a poultry farm in your
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home country of Chile, and your
wife says, not going to happen.
PASTOR DONOSO: Not a way.
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CHRIS: And you use the phrase
"it was the straw that broke the
camel's back." PASTOR
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DONOSO: Yes. CHRIS: What do you
mean by that? What happens?
PASTOR DONOSO: I mean that
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something. that our marriage was
already in trouble, so that this
was kind of the thing that
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brought it to the precipice, I
guess, because there was no
dialogue. She was not willing to
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discuss it. And so I withdrew
and I became kind of living my
dream in my own mind. It kind of
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became an obsession that
affected the marriage. And
eventually, after. you know, I
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was quite successful. I was in
management by this time. I had a
couple of businesses as well.
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And so what happened is I began
to live my life in my head, the
dream, rather, in my head. And
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eventually, my wife got tired of
that and she. one day, she left.
Even though we did not have many
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fights or arguments, it was just
distance. There was hardly any
communication between us. So one
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day, I came home from work and
she had left me a note that she
had left and taken the children.
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CHRIS: I can only imagine that
you were devastated by this,
Pastor Donoso. PASTOR
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DONOSO: Totally. CHRIS: And I'm
sure we have viewers that are
watching right now who have
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experienced it, either as the
children of divorced parents, or
who are suffering from marital
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challenges right now. Your wife
left. You have a couple of
options on what to do. So what
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happens next in your life?
PASTOR DONOSO: Well, one of the
ironies of this is that, just
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prior to my wife leaving, I had
become a born-again believer
through a co-worker that had led
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me to accept Jesus as Lord and
Saviour. And so when my wife
left, I thought she was coming
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back. I never expected that she
would stay away. But then it
dawned on me that she wasn't
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coming back. So at that time, I
was really puzzled with the idea
of the breakup because I had
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just become a born-again
believer, and suddenly, now my
marriage is broken. And so I
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made a covenant with God,
because I said, "I have no
testimony." Now I was a divorced
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man, or separated. "I have no
testimony, because this happened
after I have accepted Jesus into
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my life." CHRIS: Right. PASTOR
DONOSO: So I said, "I don't
understand it, but I am going to
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wait on You to put this marriage
back together no matter what it
takes, no matter what anybody
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says, including my wife, no
matter what happens, I will wait
and I will believe that You will
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put this marriage back
together." CHRIS: So we talked
in the first show that at a very
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early age, you began talking
with God. And now, as you have
become a born-again believer,
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you become a believer in Jesus
Christ, you take Jesus at His
word where Jesus says, "Without
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Me, you can do nothing, but with
Me, all things are possible." So
you take Jesus at His literal
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word, what the Bible says, what
is written in God's Word, and
you begin talking to God just as
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you did as a youth, but now
having a better understanding,
and you say, "God, I believe
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that I am not to give up on this
marriage." You're separated at
this point. What happens next?
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PASTOR DONOSO: Well, the
separation entered into the
second year, and then one day I
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remember - and I was believing
that God was going to put this
marriage back together - when I
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was at work and one day,
somebody appeared and asked for
me, asked for the manager, and
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they brought him to me, and he
handed me an envelope, and the
envelope contained the divorce
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papers. And to me, that was. it
really shook my faith for a
little time, because I had been
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never expecting that. But very
shortly after that, my strength
was strengthened, and I kept on
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believing that. And, well, six
years later. of the total
separation. Since the time my
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wife had left, six years passed
by. And then we remarried.
CHRIS: Okay. Now, there's a lot
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of time in that six years, and
we need to revisit that. I want
to go back, though. Your divorce
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papers come, and you actually
get divorced? PASTOR DONOSO:
Yes. CHRIS: And you talk
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about the devastation it was,
even in your faith journey.
Something that I think is very
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important, oftentimes, we see
preachers on TV that talk about
Christianity in the context of,
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you accept Jesus, and then you
seemingly will walk inches above
the ground, and life will be
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glorious, life will be
prosperous, and you won't have
any worries, and everything will
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work out. But in your
experience, though, you accept
Jesus to the best of your
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ability, you're following His
ways being obedient to Him,
having covenanted with Him that
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you are not going to turn away;
you are going to wait on Him to
work out this marriage. And
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instead, the divorce papers
come. The divorce becomes final.
When you were praying, Pastor
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Donoso, at those times, were
your prayers very sugar-coated,
pretty prayers? Or were you
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asking questions of God? Were
you talking to God about how you
were confused? Talk to me
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briefly about that. Because I
want our viewer to really kind
of understand where you were in
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your faith. PASTOR DONOSO: See,
one of the things that I knew is
that God hated divorce. I knew
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from His Word. And so one of. I
knew that it was pleasing to God
to put this marriage back
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together. But it was mainly
because of the years of struggle
in the marriage, I cannot say
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that we were totally in love. We
were not. So it wasn't that the
motivation for me to hold on.
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But it was truly - and God is my
witness to that - that I said,
"Because this happened after I
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became a born-again believer, I
don't accept that. I don't
accept that this doesn't have a
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happy ending, because God
permitted this to happen." And
so that's what I hold onto, I
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held to, during that time, in
believing. And God, one of the
things that God told me over and
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over and over again was to trust
Him. He never actually said to
me, that I could understand,
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that, "I'm putting this marriage
back together." But He just
said, "Trust Me. Trust Me." And
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sometimes, I got quite tired of
that word "trusting" because I
used to put dates on when I
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thought that we would get back
together. And it was. for those
that will read the book,
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purchase the book, they will see
that there was tremendous
experiences and struggles and
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victories during that period of
six years of waiting. CHRIS: So
you make a decision to trust the
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Lord, to trust Him with all your
heart, and wait upon Him, which
I'm sure was a difficult thing,
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probably at times a frustrating
thing, but you make this
decision to trust. "I'm going to
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trust You, Lord, no matter what
happens." Your divorce is final.
Now, we already know the end to
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the story. But how do you
eventually get remarried? What
is the connection that begins to
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draw the two of you back
together? PASTOR DONOSO: One of
the things that people have read
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the book in many countries have
sent me word of what ministered
to them. Many of them have
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mentioned the counsel that I
give them on prayer. And it's
basically for five years, I
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began to pray that God will
change my wife, will change her
heart, because I believe that
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she was the one who left me, so
God needed to make a change in
her. But the more I prayed this
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way, the farther away we got,
until one day I went to. I got
serious with God and I said,
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"God, you need to do something
and change my wife, change her
heart, take away this," and so
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on and so forth. And God spoke
to me very, very forcefully to
basically say, "Shut up. I have
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not listened to you all these
years, you complaining about
your wife, and I will never
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listen to that. Why don't you
begin to pray blessings upon
your wife instead of asking Me
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to change her and this and
that?" And I finally got this
revelation that it is Satan the
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one that accuses us before God.
And so as Christians, very
often, what we call prayer is
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nothing more than an accusation
against the person that we are
praying for. And I have many
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testimonies of people that have
embraced this form of prayer.
And so I began to pray that way.
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CHRIS: So you have this dialogue
with God. You're praying saying,
"Lord, change my wife, change my
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wife, change my wife." The Lord
intervenes and says, "Manuel,
I'm going to talk to you in a
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very serious way. You need to
stop praying for your wife to
change and you need to pray
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about me changing you." PASTOR
DONOSO: Exactly. CHRIS: You
know, I was looking up the text
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while you were
talking, Proverbs 3:5.
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CHRIS: So God speaks to you in a
mighty way. You begin now
praying in a very different way.
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You begin to pray about God
changing your life. The promise
of the Scripture is that He will
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then guide and direct you in His
path. So what begins to happen
as you begin praying for God to
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change you and not to change
your wife? PASTOR DONOSO: The
first thing that I noticed, very
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shortly after I started praying
this way, is to see my wife for
the first time as an individual,
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not necessarily my property, my
wife. But I began to see that
she had dreams and aspirations
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of her own. And I began to long
to help her to accomplish her
dreams and be happy. And God did
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such a work in my heart to the
point that I actually told God,
"I know that You can put this
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marriage back together. But if I
am not the person that is going
to make my wife - my ex-wife, at
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this time - happy, I pray that
You put somebody else in her
path to make her happy." And.
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but God said, "No, you are the
man." And immediately, almost
immediately - so the people that
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will read the book will see the
testimony - how quickly this
form of prayer works, because
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almost immediately, we began to
warm up toward each other. And
my wife had managed the children
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for six years - for five years
at that time - perfectly. Now
something. the energy went out
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of her and she couldn't handle
it anymore and she began to
pray, "Lord, I cannot do it
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alone. I cannot do it alone."
CHRIS: So you have this renewed
relationship that comes
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together. You begin talking to
one another again. You begin
reconciling. All the while,
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though, God begins working on
your heart in your relationship
with Him. Tell me what happens.
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You and your wife begin to
attend church together. Talk to
me about that. What happens
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there? PASTOR DONOSO: Well, I
had many experiences that God
led me to a particular
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denomination. I was born in the
Catholic Church and I attended
the Catholic Church for many
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years together with my wife.
Then God led me into another
denomination and I actually was
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baptized by immersion there. And
an experience happened there
that it was very obvious. The
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pastor was claiming that God was
asking to do something, and my
spirit was telling me that it
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wasn't so. And so that. I began
to pray. I actually went to the
altar at that particular church
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and asked the elders to pray for
me. And when they asked me what
I wanted to pray for, I said, "I
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want to know the truth." And he
prayed for the truth, and that
was the last time I attended
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that church, because on the
Monday, I received a book that
the title of the book was Which
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One is the Christian Sabbath:
Saturday or Sunday? And I read
that book and I was immediately
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convicted, began to attend the
Seventh-day Adventist Church. I
passed on this knowledge to my
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wife - my ex-wife, at that time
- and actually, after much
struggle, she began to attend
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the Adventist Church with me.
And we were baptized while we
were still divorced in 1989, and
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then God called me to the
ministry after that. CHRIS:
1989, you're baptized
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together. PASTOR DONOSO:
Together. CHRIS: The following
year is when you're
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married, remarried? PASTOR
DONOSO: Yeah, we remarried
shortly after the baptism.
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CHRIS: And then God calls you
into the ministry to share this
amazing and powerful story, and
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you've been in the ministry for
25 years, sharing this story. In
our last few minutes here
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together, Pastor Donoso, just
briefly outline - a person who's
struggling at home today - how
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can they start praying to see
God answer their prayers? PASTOR
DONOSO: I think God doesn't
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require complicated and
sophisticated prayers. It's
simply taking God at His Word
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and listen to what He has to say
in return, because we are not
very good at listening to what
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God has to say. And God, during
those six years, He transformed
my life totally. So if you asked
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my wife today, "Why did you
marry the same man twice?" she
will tell you, "No, I only
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married a different person the
second time." CHRIS: Pastor
Donoso, what a powerful,
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powerful testimony. You know,
friend, we see God move in
miraculous ways. Pastor Donoso
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outlined a very simple process
by which you can access God, and
that is to take Him at His Word,
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to talk to Him, and He will
listen and He will answer.
Pastor Donoso, let's close our
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time together with prayer, and I
would ask that you please pray
for us and pray for our viewers
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today. PASTOR DONOSO: Yes.
Father in Heaven, first of all,
I want to thank you for the
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opportunity that You have given
me to share what You have done
in my life. To You be the honour
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and the glory and the praise.
And now, Father, I pray for
anyone that is viewing this
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telecast today that is just
struggling perhaps in a
relationship, in a marriage
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relationship. It may be even
divorce right now. Don't give up
because God is still on the
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throne. Just listen to His voice
and do what He asks you to do.
Sometimes it's not easy. But He
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will give us the strength, the
wisdom, the power, to carry out
His will in our lives. He wants
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to do amazing things for us. And
Lord, today, we thank you
because You are doing marvelous
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things through this ministry of
It Is Written. Continue to bless
them so that they reach out to
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many souls that are hungering
for the Word of God and for the
love of God, is my prayer, in
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Jesus' name, amen.
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>>Bev: Hi everyone The NEWSTART
acronym coined by Weimar
Institute, a wellness centre
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located in California. In
today's segment, we're focusing
on N for Nutrition. A healthy
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lifestyle starts with good
nutrition and, when we talk
about how to eat well, we like
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to break it all down into the
three main components of
carbohydrates, fats, and
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proteins. We need all three for
a balanced and healthy diet Now,
when you hear me talking
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about diet, I'm not referring to
dieting (I don't believe in
dieting!) but, rather, your
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overall every-day eating
pattern. Well, let's start with
carbohydrates, or "carbs" for
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short. Over the past several
years, we've been hearing a lot
about high-protein,
00:25:12.71\00:25:17.51
low-carbohydrate diets. Well,
I'm glad that that particular
craze is over, because your body
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absolutely, positively needs
carbohydrates to function. In
fact, carbs are your body's
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preferred fuel for optimal
performance, so it's really
important that you eat enough
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carbs each and every day. Now,
I'm talking about the good
carbs! Things like delicious
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whole-grain breads and
whole-grain pastas; tasty brown
or wild rice, and other whole
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grain cereals like oats, millet,
rye - have you heard of quinoa
and amaranth?; then there are
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succulent, juicy fruits - my
favourites are mangos, golden
kiwis, and cherries; and then
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scrumptious vegetables - I love
zucchini, eggplant, and sweet
yams. And if you haven't
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tried whole wheat pasta as yet,
you really must! It's so
delicious! The best thing for
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us is to stay away from the more
processed foods - you know,
those convenience foods in the
00:26:08.96\00:26:15.17
crinkly bags and the
enticing-looking boxes. Sure,
they might save us time when
00:26:15.27\00:26:20.14
we're cooking or snacking, but
those foods are full of salt,
sugars, fats and chemical
00:26:20.24\00:26:25.15
preservatives. Things that our
bodies really don't need. What
are bodies do need, though, are
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the vitamins, minerals, fibre,
antioxidants and phytochemicals
that are found readily in plant
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foods. Now, when it comes to
fats, a little goes a long way,
and there are some fats that are
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healthier than others. When the
fat comes from natural plant
sources such as avocadoes, nuts,
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seeds, and olives, those are
healthy choices. When it comes
to protein, if you're looking
00:26:48.57\00:26:54.54
for optimal health, you'll want
to include more plant-based
protein sources rather than
00:26:54.64\00:26:59.71
animal-based sources. Studies
show that the healthiest diet is
one that is high in
00:26:59.81\00:27:04.69
carbohydrates, low in fat and
moderate in protein. And, I find
it interesting - and wonderful -
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that most of the major health
organizations are now
encouraging people to include
00:27:11.89\00:27:18.53
more plant-based foods in their
every-day eating. Here are some
easy, delicious ways of
00:27:18.63\00:27:22.84
incorporating plant-based
proteins into your diet:
Purchase a good vegetarian
00:27:22.94\00:27:28.14
cookbook - there are lots of
them in your local book store.
Toss some beans into your
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salads, rice and pasta dishes -
delicious ones to try are chick
peas or garbanzo beans, kidney
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beans, black beans. Beans are a
powerhouse of good protein.
Adapt your favourite meat-based
00:27:41.19\00:27:48.50
recipe by using soy products,
gluten. Shake it up - blend some
soft tofu with fruits and one of
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the delicious soy, rice or
almond milks - delicious! If you
want additional information on
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healthy eating, visit the
Physicians Committee for
responsible medicine at
00:28:02.68\00:28:06.75
www.pcrm.org, and you'll find
links to lots of great
resources. See you next time!
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CHRIS: Dear friends, we only
heard a few key moments in the
story of Pastor Donoso. If you
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want to hear more, I want to
encourage you to get his book.
We're offering that book today
00:28:25.53\00:28:30.37
to you for any size donation. In
addition to that, for free,
we'll offer you a DVD of the
00:28:30.47\00:28:36.54
three programs that we did
together. Here's the information
you need to receive today's
00:28:36.64\00:28:41.68
offer.
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CHRIS: Pastor Donoso, thank you
so much for being with us today.
PASTOR DONOSO: It was a
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privilege, Chris. CHRIS: Dear
friend, what an amazing journey.
If you'd like a link to Pastor
00:29:35.34\00:29:41.24
Donoso's website, you can go to
the itiswrittencanada.ca web
page and find it there. Please
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join us again next week. Until
then, remember it is written:
"Man shall not live by bread
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alone, but by every word that
proceeds from the mouth of God."
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