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CHRIS: Friends, welcome to It Is
Written. You know, It Is Written
is a program all about the Bible
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and how God is leading people
all around the world, how he's
led people in the past, leading
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people today, and will lead
people in the future. Today, I
have with me a special guest who
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has a story that is truly
amazing. I want to welcome to
the show Pastor Manuel Donoso.
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Pastor Donoso, so glad to have
you here today. PASTOR DONOSO:
It's a pleasure to be
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here. CHRIS: Very good. Now,
Pastor, you are the pastor of
the Nepean Church in Ottawa.
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You've been there for fourteen
years. You've pastored for
twenty-five years. PASTOR
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DONOSO: Yes. CHRIS: Now, Pastor
Donoso has written a book called
A Risk Taker's Journey. It is an
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autobiography where he shares
his life story. In the next few
shows, we're going to get a
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little snippet of that story,
but make sure you stay tuned in,
because at the end of the show,
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we will tell you how you can get
a copy of this book. So Pastor
Donoso, you are a pastor of a
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Seventh-day Adventist Church, of
a Christian church. Have you
been a Christian all your life?
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PASTOR DONOSO: Yes, I believe I
was, right from the very early
age. CHRIS: Very good. Now, talk
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to me a little bit about,
Pastor, where did you grow up?
Where are you from? Give me a
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little bit of your history as a
youth. PASTOR DONOSO: I was born
in Chile in the countryside in
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the central valley of Chile. My
father was an administrator of a
large farm in Chile, so that's
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where I was born. And basically,
my early childhood was in the
farm. CHRIS: Okay. Now, Pastor
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Donoso, did you have any
brothers and sisters growing up?
PASTOR DONOSO: We were three. I
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have a sister that is the older
one, and my brother that was
three years older than I, died
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at the age of 26. So it's only
the two of us right now, my
sister and I. CHRIS: All right.
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Now, your book A Risk Taker's
Journey is really a fascinating
journey on your life story, and
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so we're going to just talk a
little bit about that. But
Pastor Donoso - and I'm asking
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you a broad question, because
there are a number of pivotal
moments in your story - but
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let's go right to your youth,
right to your childhood. Talk to
me about those first steps of
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your journey. And one of the
things I think that's very
important is that God was
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leading you on a journey. You
may not have known it at the
time, and that's how it is for
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many of us. I know it was for my
own story. We didn't sense that
God was the One leading us; but
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now, being able to look back on
our history, we know that it was
God leading us. But talk to me
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about some of those pivotal
moments. Tell me. talk to me
about kind of the first pivotal
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moment in your life story, this
journey that you took. PASTOR
DONOSO: I think one of the first
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traumatic experiences in my life
was when, at the age of five - I
didn't understand exactly at the
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moment - but my father, as I
said earlier, was the
administrator of a large farm.
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And he had an affair with a lady
in the farm. And the owners of
the farm became aware of it, my
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mother as well. And my father
was demoted for a short period
of time. That was the idea; they
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communicated this to my mother,
that they would be demoting him
for a short time, and then will
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be reinstated to his former
position. But he couldn't take
that. And he actually resigned.
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And the experience that I wanted
to share was the fact that
suddenly, we had a beautiful
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home, and suddenly, we are
moving. CHRIS: Okay. PASTOR
DONOSO: We are moving into
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another area. And it was very
traumatic for the whole family
because we were uprooted, and
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the place where I was going to
now, they had no school. And the
irony of it all was that we move
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into this school, the former
school, that was the teacher's
home plus the classroom. But I
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have to go away to school
because there was no school any
longer in that particular area.
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CHRIS: So you're five years old,
you're uprooted from your
situation. You go to this new
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farm. Now, did your father begin
as an administrator again at
this farm? PASTOR DONOSO: As a
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foreman. Eventually, he rose to
- again, once again - to a high
position. And the most
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difficult aspect of going away
from home is that I have to
travel to take the bus in the
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weekends that was 12 kilometres
away from our home. And dirt
roads, countryside. And to me,
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as a six-year-old, I was kind of
afraid making that trip every
week. You know, Friday coming
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back, and on Sunday going back
to the city, where my family was
paying for room and board with a
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wonderful family that looked
after me. CHRIS: So now, I want
to make sure that people don't
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miss this. So at the age of six,
you're actually sent from your
home to a boarding school.
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During the week, you're
attending school in the home of
these folks. PASTOR
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DONOSO: Yeah, I was living with
someone, with a family, and from
there, I would go to school.
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CHRIS: Okay. I can understand
that as a six-year-old, I'm sure
that that was kind of a
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frightening ordeal. Now, when
this was happening, talk to me
about how was that beginning to
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form and bring some formulation
to who you would eventually
become. PASTOR DONOSO: I think
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one of the things that
influenced the way it affected
me, I became a very independent
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type of person, and perhaps a
risk-taker, because I was forced
to make those decisions at such
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an early age. So even though the
family that I was staying with
was very, very nice, they looked
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after me, I really missed home.
My mother was dear to me, and
not being able. especially when
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I got sick with a flu or
something like that, it was
very, very hard on me.
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CHRIS: I'm sure it was, I'm sure
it was. Now, so you were six
years old. How long did you have
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this journey where you were in
this boarding situation going to
school? PASTOR DONOSO: Well, one
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other thing that I want to
highlight is the fact that -
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seeing as how I am talking as
well about religion - that when
I was walking to the bus every
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week, and from the bus home, I
used to talk to God. CHRIS:
Okay. PASTOR DONOSO: And I think
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it was kind of out of fear that
I was. I guess I was sensing
that there was a being that was
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aware where I was. And in my own
little mind at the time, I was
able to communicate with this
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God. And so I learned from that
very early age that this God is
an amazing being, even though I
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was not totally connected with
him, to be aware of His
presence. CHRIS: Yes. PASTOR
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DONOSO: And so, the years went
by, but I was extremely
rebellious. Extremely
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rebellious. I went to the same
school, a private school, that
they have from kinder - all the
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way to high school. So that's
the school that I went to. But I
was extremely rebellious and I
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had a very hot temper. I used to
take temper tantrums often while
at home. And one day, one of my
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aunts came from Santiago, the
capital, to visit us in the
summertime. And I took some of
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those temper tantrums. And my
aunt said that the solution for
this was for my mother to pull
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my pants down, sit me in a big
drum of cold water. And I
remember that my mother paid
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heed to the counsel, but it made
me even more rebellious than
before. CHRIS: So you find
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yourself as a youth. You're
becoming more independent
because you're in this boarding
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situation, but you're beginning
a life of - kind of congruently
- a life of prayer, so to speak.
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You're talking to God. Maybe not
understand who He was, but at
least having a conversation with
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Him. But at the same time,
you're going through this
journey where you're rebelling.
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And now, let's talk a little bit
about that. When you are having
this time of rebellion, are you
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rebelling against God, are you
rebelling against your parents,
are you rebelling against
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everything? What's happening
there? PASTOR DONOSO: It was
mainly rebelling against my
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father that. because I began to
understand the consequences of
his actions that had affected
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the whole family. One other
thing as well, at that time,
when I was about six or seven,
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my father used to drink a little
bit too much. And one day, while
having a meeting with the
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workers on the farm, they
started drinking. They got into
an argument, and he was stabbed
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in the stomach. And I remember
him coming home bleeding, and we
all thought he was going to die.
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And it took a couple of hours
before the ambulance would come
in. But my rebellion was, I did
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not have a good relationship
with him at all. And he seemed
to favour my brother, my older
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brother, as well. So this
rebellion led to him asking the
army to take me in, because.
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just a few days before I was to
report for service - because in
Chile, you're supposed to do
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service for at least one year -
but it was very easy to get out.
And I had all planned to get
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out, so it was a real surprise
to me when I arrived at the day
which we were supposed to
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report, and say, "No, you are
going in." CHRIS: So you're
going through this process. And
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I want to dwell here just for a
moment, Pastor, because I know
we have a number of viewers. you
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know, we live in a society where
so many homes are broken and so
many challenges that people are
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facing in their own homes. You
have this relationship with your
father that is a very
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challenging, a very difficult
relationship, because as you
grow older, you become aware of
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what your dad did and those
actions, and you begin to rebel
against him because of who he
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had become. And that rebellion
doesn't actually mend the
relationship; it actually
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further divided the
relationship, so much so that
your father actually enrolled
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you in the military. But Pastor
Donoso, just dwelling there for
a moment, as you were learning
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these things about your father
and rebelling against your
father, talk to me a little bit
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about how you felt. Talk to me a
little bit about. you know,
because a lot of times when we
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rebel, we're not. you know, we
don't conscientiously say, "I'm
going to rebel." PASTOR DONOSO:
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Yeah, exactly. CHRIS: Talk to me
a little bit about the feelings,
emotions that were going on in
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you as you were moving into that
time and having this rebellion.
PASTOR DONOSO: I think the main
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reason for my rebellion was, I
was becoming aware of how it had
affected my father's affairs.
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That was only one - not only
one, rather, but many. CHRIS:
Okay. PASTOR DONOSO: And
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people used to come and tell me
that I had a new mother and so
on and so forth. So I used to,
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when I was young, I used to come
and tell my mother that. And my
mother always, without fail, she
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used to say, "He is your father.
Don't listen to gossip and you
must respect your father." But
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it didn't settle with me, this
idea that I needed to respect
him because he was my father,
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when in fact, I saw what was
happening. So during those
years, I guess I demonstrated
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this anger in many ways, you
know, by fighting with my
brother. That was a real
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difficult time for my mother as
well because we. I guess I
resented the fact that he was my
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father's favourite. And whenever
I came to my father, let's say,
ask for money, for instance, to
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go to. when I was a teenager, he
will very often say, "No, I
don't have any money." But if my
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brother would come. CHRIS:
Mmhmm. PASTOR DONOSO: So one of
the things, I guess, the
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counsel for any of you that
perhaps the children are going
through this situation, is not
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to show favouritism because it's
deadly for the person that is
not being favoured. CHRIS: And I
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appreciate that so much, for
parents to understand the
importance of treating each
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child, so to speak, equally. And
you can treat each child
differently, as long as there is
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some equality. So you have this
building rebellion. You are
slotted for your one year of
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service in the army, as every
youth is slotted for, but very
easy to get out of, so you had
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yourself a plan, well put
together. You show up and what
happens? PASTOR DONOSO: Well,
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due to the fact that my father
had asked the army to take me
in, they were very well into to
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shape me into whatever they
wanted me to be. And so it was
an extremely hard time for me in
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the army because of the fact
that I had been asked to be
taken in. And it got to the
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point where I didn't know
exactly what to do. The
discipline was a little hard for
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me in particular. And so there
was. after six months in the
army, one day they announced
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that if anyone wanted to leave
early, to come forward and speak
to the officer. And I remember
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kind of jumping into the. and
the lieutenant pushed me back
and he said, "Not you. You will
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rot here." And so at eight
months, some of the companions
left, and my good friends were
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included in that. So I was
desperate. And President Eduardo
Frei Montalva had just been
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elected president, so I decided
to write to him to do something
for me. CHRIS: Okay. Now - and
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again, I want to dwell there for
a moment, because there are
young people that watch this
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show. So you show up at the
army. You're expecting fully to
get out and go home. And they
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say, "We've got different news."
Now, how old were you when this
happened? PASTOR DONOSO: I was
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eighteen, seventeen, going on
eighteen. CHRIS: Okay. So you're
seventeen, eighteen years old.
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You show up, you believe you've
got a plan, you're going to go
home, you're done with this army
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business, and to the shock of
yourself, you now have to go
into the army. And it is almost
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unbearable for you. PASTOR
DONOSO: It was. CHRIS: You try
to get out, you can't get out.
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You're. in fact, the lieutenant
tells you that you're going to
stay here, you're going to stay,
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and you're going to rot here.
PASTOR DONOSO: Yeah. CHRIS: Talk
to me about how you're feeling
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during all of this. You've got
the rebellion situation going
on. You're already in a
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fractured relationship with your
father. And now you're in the
army because of your father and
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his call to the army. What's
going on in your mind? How are
you feeling? And what's this
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doing for you? PASTOR DONOSO: I
felt totally impotent because
there was absolutely nothing
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that I could do, and you just
need to obey. You know, looking
back, though, at that experience
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of the army with discipline, you
know, has served me very well
over the years, but not at that
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time, because the discipline was
very harsh. CHRIS: So you. so
it's kind of interesting. We're
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talking about these pivotal
moments. And I don't want our
viewers to miss these pivotal
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moments. Early on, you're
learning about prayer, talking
to God. Now, you didn't maybe
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understand all about it, but
you're learning about the idea
of talking to God. You're
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learning independence, how to
take care of yourself, which can
be both beneficial and
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detrimental, depending on how
that frames in the Christian
life. And then in the army, even
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though at the time, you didn't
enjoy it, you didn't like it,
you're learning about
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discipline. PASTOR DONOSO: Yes.
CHRIS: How long are you in the
army? What happens during your
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army experience beyond just the
nonnjoyment of being there?
PASTOR DONOSO: I think one of
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the things that really
influenced me in a negative way
toward the army was one day when
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we were practicing salute. And
there was this fellow in my
company that had really looked
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forward all his life to become a
soldier, because his uncle was a
lieutenant in the army. And I
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remember the day we went in
a large field with over 1,000
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there doing the same, and this
young man was ready to salute,
so we did, you know, with the
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right hand and so on and so
forth. And then we stopped, and
now he started again, because
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the sergeant that was at his
right hand before, now he moved
to his left. And he asked, "Now
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that you are to my left, do I
salute you with my right arm or
with the left?" And the sergeant
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said, "With the left, of
course." And this young man did
the very best to go and salute
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him, and everybody was laughing.
And before long, he used the
bullhorn to call all the
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regiment to come and watch this
young man do a fantastic salute.
During that, I believe many of
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us cried, because he was not
aware, he was trying to do his
very best. And I think that that
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was a pivotal moment in my life
in the army where I lost all
respect that I had through that
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experience because it crushed
this young man's spirits, and we
never saw him smile again, and
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he could hardly wait to leave
the army after his service.
CHRIS: And so you have this
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additional principle that comes
up. And I'm sure that's affected
you throughout your life. And I
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know I've had different
experiences in my life where you
kind of love the underdog, the
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person that is downtrodden. And
I know you personally; you and I
have gotten to know each other,
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and I know you're doing a lot to
help those that are downtrodden
in life. So you're continuing on
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in the army. What else is
happening during your stay in
the army? PASTOR DONOSO: Well, I
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think one of the things that I
was. because most of the fellows
that I got along with. well with
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have left, and now, it was just
marking the time, not knowing
when I was going to leave. And
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this was so frustrating to me,
not knowing when I was going to
leave. There was no set time
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when I said, "Okay, I will leave
at this particular time." CHRIS:
Now, Pastor Donoso,
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there's more to your story,
because you didn't stay in the
army forever. PASTOR
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DONOSO: Yes. CHRIS: But we are
all out of time. And so what I'm
going to encourage our viewer
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is, we're going to continue this
journey with Pastor Donoso.
You're not going to want to miss
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what happens in his life and how
God continues to move. But
Pastor Donoso, we're seeing God
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making movements in your life,
pivotal things happening to form
you for the rest of your life.
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Let's pray together and pray for
that viewer right now who's
struggling with some issue in
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their journey. Would you be
willing to pray for us? PASTOR
DONOSO: Sure. Father in heaven,
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perhaps there is someone out
there viewing this program today
that is going through something
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similar that I went through. I
want to encourage you to put
your trust in a loving God, in a
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loving Saviour, that even though
you might not be aware, He is
leading. And I want you to ask
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Him to reveal Himself to you,
because it is worth everything
that you can hope for, because
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He is an amazing God and He has
a wonderful plan for your life.
I pray in Jesus' name, amen.
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BEV: Hi, everyone. I want to
show you a really delicious and
easy way to use beans. You've
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heard me talk before about how
good beans are for you. They're
chockull of protein, fibre,
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minerals, phytonutrients, and
they're low in fats,
cholesterol, and sodium. I think
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most people probably purchase
the canned beans because it's
more convenient. Just be sure to
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wash them well in a colander
under running water to rinse off
some of that added sodium.
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Let's look at a really easy way
to enjoy chickpeas today. Make
sure you've got a pen and paper
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to write this recipe down. First
- this is a chickpea sandwich
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spread - the ingredients are: a
can of chickpeas, roughly
mashed; a stalk of celery,
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chopped; a medium carrot,
grated; two stalks of green
onion, chopped; some mock
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chicken seasoning to taste; and
some soy mayonnaise. So I'm
going to add all this. I've got
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my chickpeas already just mashed
with a fork, or you can put this
in the food processor just to
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speed things up a little bit.
I'm adding the green onion and
the celery; they're both in here
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together. Adds a nice little hit
of colour, plus great flavour
sensations. The carrot really
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brightens things up beautifully.
And what people tell me is, when
they taste this, they actually
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think it's a salmon sandwich,
salmon salad sandwich. So a
little bit more of the carrot.
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And some of the soy yogurt - not
soy yogurt - soy mayo. Putting
some of that in to bind it all
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together beautifully. And - I've
got some on my finger here -
some of this wonderful
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mock chicken seasoning. And make
sure you get a nice vegetarian
kind for this. Sprinkle some of
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that on there. And then, all
you're going to do is mix it
together. This is so easy, and
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I'm telling you, it's totally,
totally delicious. So just using
the soy mayo to bind it all
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together beautifully. And then
you can just put this on some
crackers or in a pita bread or
00:26:42.83\00:26:50.97
you know, on just regular bread
for a sandwich. Today I'm going
to put it into a wholegrain
00:26:51.07\00:26:57.08
pita. And you can put some
lettuce in there as well,
tomato, whatever you want to do,
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to make this your sandwich. But
I'm telling you, it is totally,
totally delicious. Just fill
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that up. You've got a wonderful,
colourful, beautiful pita right
there. There's so many ways you
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can enjoy chickpeas. Blend them
up as hummus or add them to
salads and rice. And the same
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goes for any bean. Make sure to
enjoy beans at least several
times a week. Consider this.
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One cup of cooked chickpeas
contains 14.5 grams of healthy
protein. A two-ounce serving of
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chicken has about 15 grams of
protein. So you can see that
there's practically no
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difference with the protein
factor. The bonus comes, though,
from the chickpeas, because
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there's no need to worry about
saturated fat or cholesterol,
both of which you'll find in
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that chicken. And the high-fibre
content of beans helps them
lower your cholesterol, maintain
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your blood sugar levels evenly,
and fill you up so you don't
overeat. When it comes to beans,
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however you eat them, enjoy them
in good health. I'll see you
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next time. CHRIS: Dear friends,
God, moves in a mighty way.
Today, I'd like to give you the
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opportunity to have the book A
Risk Taker's Journey, Pastor
Donoso's autobiography. You can
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have that book for any size
donation. In addition to that, I
want to offer the book Christ's
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Object Lessons. Here's the
information you need for today's
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offer. CHRIS: Pastor Donoso, I
want to thank you so much for
being with us today on It Is
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Written. PASTOR DONOSO: The
pleasure would be mine, Chris,
to be here. CHRIS: Dear friend,
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God leads. I want you to join us
again next week where we hear
the rest of Pastor Donoso's
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story. Until then, remember, it
is written: "Man shall not live
by bread alone, but by every
00:29:45.61\00:29:52.82
word that proceeds
from the mouth of God."
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