>>Announcer: It has stood the test of time.... 00:00:11.66\00:00:14.80 God's book, The Bible 00:00:15.76\00:00:18.16 Still relevant in today's complex world 00:00:19.20\00:00:22.73 It Is Written 00:00:23.73\00:00:26.26 Sharing messages of hope around the world 00:00:27.10\00:00:31.06 BILL: I want to welcome you to the It Is Written Canada television program. 00:00:39.63\00:00:42.23 My name is Bill Santos. 00:00:42.23\00:00:44.23 Thank you so much for joining us. 00:00:44.23\00:00:46.66 Well, if you were with us last week, you already know who our 00:00:46.66\00:00:50.86 guest is this week. 00:00:50.86\00:00:52.30 But if you weren't with us, let me introduce Jaime Jorge. 00:00:52.30\00:00:56.00 Jaime, welcome JAIME: Thank you. 00:00:56.00\00:00:57.73 It's great to be back. 00:00:57.73\00:00:59.33 BILL: It's good to have you back. 00:00:59.33\00:01:01.30 For the benefit of those that don't know Jaime, who is not an 00:01:01.30\00:01:05.10 unknown commodity in Canada, 'cause you have been on Canadian 00:01:05.10\00:01:08.56 television quite a bit, Jaime is a world-renowned concert 00:01:08.56\00:01:12.36 violinist. That's quite the introduction, isn't it? 00:01:12.36\00:01:14.10 JAIME: Phew, man. 00:01:14.10\00:01:15.43 I should pay you for this. 00:01:15.43\00:01:16.96 BILL: But more importantly than his, I think, talent at playing 00:01:16.96\00:01:22.56 the violin is his heart for mission and to see people. winning people to Jesus Christ. 00:01:22.56\00:01:29.53 JAIME: Yeah. 00:01:29.53\00:01:30.93 BILL: Last week, we got a sense, a little background of your 00:01:30.93\00:01:35.50 life. And I thought it'd be important this week to sort of, 00:01:35.50\00:01:41.30 with your permission, you know, to delve into one aspect of your 00:01:41.30\00:01:45.33 life that you identified as one of the most trying moments in your life, which was the 00:01:45.33\00:01:49.73 breakdown of your marriage. 00:01:49.73\00:01:51.53 JAIME: Mmhmm. 00:01:51.53\00:01:52.93 BILL: Because I believe, Jaime, you know what? 00:01:52.93\00:01:55.26 It's not to air, you know, dirty laundry or anything, but I 00:01:55.26\00:01:58.50 believe that, you know, your testimony and your experience can benefit someone that's 00:01:58.50\00:02:02.33 watching us here today. 00:02:02.33\00:02:05.30 JAIME: Amen. 00:02:05.30\00:02:06.80 BILL: Maybe just a very quick, for the benefit of those that 00:02:06.80\00:02:09.13 maybe are tuning in for the first time, very quick bio on who you are and where 00:02:09.13\00:02:12.46 you're from. 00:02:12.46\00:02:13.46 JAIME: Okay. 00:02:13.46\00:02:14.16 Well, I'm born in Cuba. 00:02:14.16\00:02:15.66 I started playing the violin at the age of five. 00:02:15.66\00:02:17.53 When I was ten years old, my family was fortunate to be able 00:02:17.53\00:02:22.96 to leave Cuba and go to the United States where I received a Christian education and 00:02:22.96\00:02:26.96 continued taking violin lessons. 00:02:26.96\00:02:29.76 And over the last 25 years, I've had the privilege to travel 00:02:29.76\00:02:34.66 around the world, because music is the international language. 00:02:34.66\00:02:36.96 BILL: Yes. 00:02:36.96\00:02:38.30 JAIME: The violin doesn't need translation. 00:02:38.30\00:02:39.80 BILL: Yes, you're absolutely right. 00:02:39.80\00:02:40.93 JAIME: Everybody understands it. 00:02:40.93\00:02:42.36 The only continent I haven't been to is Antarctica. 00:02:42.36\00:02:44.30 And I don't think I'm going to be doing a concert for the 00:02:44.30\00:02:47.40 penguins anytime soon. 00:02:47.40\00:02:48.70 BILL: You never know, right? 00:02:48.70\00:02:50.53 JAIME: Maybe. 00:02:50.53\00:02:51.96 So I get to travel around and share the Gospel through music 00:02:51.96\00:02:54.23 and testimony. 00:02:54.23\00:02:56.10 BILL: So last week, I asked you, you know, any regrets? 00:02:56.10\00:03:01.93 We talked about some of the highlights. 00:03:01.93\00:03:03.40 You mentioned playing in a hut church in Mexico. 00:03:03.40\00:03:06.96 JAIME: Yes. 00:03:06.96\00:03:08.30 BILL: And watching some folks as you played ve their life to 00:03:08.30\00:03:10.50 Jesus Christ. 00:03:10.50\00:03:12.26 And you said that was one of the highlights of your ministry. 00:03:12.26\00:03:14.93 JAIME: Yes, indeed. 00:03:14.93\00:03:16.23 BILL: And I sort of follow that up, and sort of unintentionally. 00:03:16.23\00:03:18.33 I hope I didn't put you on the spot, you know. 00:03:18.33\00:03:20.76 Well, were there any regrets? 00:03:20.76\00:03:23.40 And you made reference to the breakdown of your marriage. 00:03:23.40\00:03:26.73 JAIME: Yes. 00:03:26.73\00:03:28.06 BILL: And that's sort of what prompted this discussion today. 00:03:28.06\00:03:30.70 What happened, man? 00:03:30.70\00:03:33.10 JAIME: Well, I can tell you, it wasn't anything bombastic. 00:03:33.10\00:03:36.20 It wasn't any one thing. 00:03:36.20\00:03:38.56 It was a gradual breakdown of the relationship. 00:03:38.56\00:03:42.16 And for those that have been married or that are married, 00:03:42.16\00:03:48.73 marriage is work. BILL: Yes. 00:03:48.73\00:03:49.50 JAIME: Now, it is a good work. 00:03:49.50\00:03:51.10 But it's not something you can sit back and kick your feet up, 00:03:51.10\00:03:54.80 and just because things were good last week or the year before, you can rest on those 00:03:54.80\00:03:59.20 laurels. You have to continue to feed the relationship. 00:03:59.20\00:04:02.33 You have to continue to devote time to nurture that 00:04:02.33\00:04:06.60 relationship. And what began to happen is, as the Lord blessed, and I was travelling more 00:04:06.60\00:04:12.36 and doing more concerts, and at first, my wife travelled with 00:04:12.36\00:04:16.36 me. She was also a musician. 00:04:16.36\00:04:18.23 And so she sang. 00:04:18.23\00:04:20.03 BILL: Okay. 00:04:20.03\00:04:21.33 JAIME: We had a great team as we went from place to place. 00:04:21.33\00:04:23.96 But this travelling, gruelling schedule can break people down 00:04:23.96\00:04:31.40 physically. 00:04:31.40\00:04:32.53 And I've spent 25 years doing it. 00:04:32.53\00:04:35.13 And sometimes I get sick. 00:04:35.13\00:04:36.63 Sometimes I get worn out. 00:04:36.63\00:04:38.26 And she certainly sort of got tired. 00:04:38.26\00:04:41.03 She got worn out as well, and so she started cutting back. 00:04:41.03\00:04:44.06 And then she had other opportunities to sing locally. 00:04:44.06\00:04:48.10 We live in the Chattanooga area. 00:04:48.10\00:04:50.46 Well, the country and gospel meccas are in Nashville, just a 00:04:50.46\00:04:54.93 couple hours away. 00:04:54.93\00:04:56.13 And she had great opportunities in singing in Nashville. 00:04:56.13\00:05:00.40 And so she went there. 00:05:00.40\00:05:02.30 And so I began to travel more and be home less. 00:05:02.30\00:05:05.80 And she was spending more and more time in Nashville. 00:05:05.80\00:05:08.56 And over the course of time, what happened was, we didn't 00:05:08.56\00:05:14.76 spend enough time together. 00:05:14.76\00:05:16.60 We didn't work out, you know, the little things that became 00:05:16.60\00:05:19.53 big things. And we just gave up, is probably the best, you know, 00:05:19.53\00:05:26.36 answer I can give. We gave up. 00:05:26.36\00:05:28.43 And you know, the reason why the Bible says that God hates 00:05:28.43\00:05:32.20 divorce is because of the pain that it causes. 00:05:32.20\00:05:36.16 BILL: Right.. JAIME: And divorce is also a symbol of the breaking 00:05:36.16\00:05:40.66 down of our relationship with God, because our union with Him is like a marriage as 00:05:40.66\00:05:46.60 well. 00:05:46.60\00:05:48.00 And so the pain, you know, the devastation that we both 00:05:48.00\00:05:52.23 suffered. Only, I think, if people have gone through it can you relate, because it is 00:05:52.23\00:05:58.96 so deep. 00:05:58.96\00:06:00.60 It is so despondent. 00:06:00.60\00:06:02.53 I remember one period of time I went eight days without eating. 00:06:02.53\00:06:08.73 BILL: My goodness. 00:06:08.73\00:06:10.30 JAIME: .not realizing it, you know. 00:06:10.30\00:06:12.03 It was such a difficult time. 00:06:12.03\00:06:13.30 I didn't even get out my front door, I was hurting so bad. 00:06:13.30\00:06:16.36 I cried out to God. 00:06:16.36\00:06:18.70 But you know, if I had had my relationship with the Lord in 00:06:18.70\00:06:23.86 the right place, I would've listened to Him saying, "Take time to devote to your marriage. 00:06:23.86\00:06:29.30 " Because doing God's work never takes the place of taking care 00:06:29.30\00:06:34.63 of your family. 00:06:34.63\00:06:36.43 Sometimes we can be so busy doing God's work that we can 00:06:36.43\00:06:39.46 forget to do the things that he has called us to do first and 00:06:39.46\00:06:43.03 foremost. And that's what happened. 00:06:43.03\00:06:44.60 And the years went by. 00:06:44.60\00:06:47.46 And the pain didn't go away. 00:06:47.46\00:06:49.43 The nights alone, you know, crying and crying out to God and 00:06:49.43\00:06:55.06 blaming God. 00:06:55.06\00:06:56.70 'Cause what happens is you say, "Well, why did you let this 00:06:56.70\00:06:58.90 happen to me, God? 00:06:58.90\00:07:00.06 " BILL: Right. 00:07:00.06\00:07:00.76 Here I'm doing a good work. 00:07:00.76\00:07:02.36 JAIME: I'm doing your work. 00:07:02.36\00:07:03.80 BILL: Yeah. 00:07:03.80\00:07:05.06 JAIME: And all of a sudden, my life falls apart, you know. 00:07:05.06\00:07:06.53 And it took a long time for my heart to heal. 00:07:06.53\00:07:08.70 And yet, God is in the business of healing. 00:07:08.70\00:07:11.73 And God is in the business of miracles. 00:07:11.73\00:07:15.26 And God worked a miracle in my heart and in my life the same 00:07:15.26\00:07:19.66 way he can work a miracle in anybody's life that comes to Him and says, "Lord, take over my 00:07:19.66\00:07:24.16 life. 00:07:24.16\00:07:25.10 " BILL: Yes. 00:07:25.10\00:07:26.60 JAIME: There's a song that I want to share coming up and it's 00:07:26.60\00:07:28.56 called "I Surrender All. 00:07:28.56\00:07:30.06 " And I have learned that the best place we can be is surrendered to Jesus 00:07:30.06\00:07:33.96 Christ. 00:07:33.96\00:07:35.50 I used to love the saying that goes like this: If you want 00:07:35.50\00:07:38.73 something done right, do it yourself. 00:07:38.73\00:07:40.96 'Cause I used to think that if I could just get my hands on the 00:07:40.96\00:07:44.96 situation or the problem. BILL: You could fix it. 00:07:44.96\00:07:46.66 JAIME: .I could fix it. 00:07:46.66\00:07:48.16 But you know, when I look in the rear-view mirrors of my life, 00:07:48.16\00:07:50.83 when I'm in control is when things have been disastrous. 00:07:50.83\00:07:54.00 But when God has been in control, it's a totally 00:07:54.00\00:07:58.13 different thing. It's amazing how wonderful. 00:07:58.13\00:07:59.46 Doesn't mean that there aren't going to be challenges. 00:07:59.46\00:08:02.20 But we have this peace knowing that God is really the one 00:08:02.20\00:08:06.40 carrying us. And that's how I want to live my life every day, 00:08:06.40\00:08:10.06 you know. BILL: Jaime, you're a well-known musician. 00:08:10.06\00:08:13.56 I mean, like you said, you've travelled around the world doing 00:08:13.56\00:08:16.53 a magnificent work for God. 00:08:16.53\00:08:19.26 And you were under attack from the devil. 00:08:19.26\00:08:22.03 The enemy wanted to do whatever he could to destroy. JAIME: 00:08:22.03\00:08:25.56 Certainly. BILL: .your ministry, your wife's ministry, your ex-wife's ministry. 00:08:25.56\00:08:28.23 And you mentioned last week that you actually, as you were going 00:08:28.23\00:08:35.46 through this painful separation process, you actually considered 00:08:35.46\00:08:42.03 abandoning your ministry. 00:08:42.03\00:08:43.50 JAIME: Yes. 00:08:43.50\00:08:44.86 And I think it's sort of natural, you know. 00:08:44.86\00:08:48.10 BILL: Yes. 00:08:48.10\00:08:49.76 JAIME: People sometimes look at those who are up front and think 00:08:49.76\00:08:53.80 and expect and project that everything. BILL: Everything is 00:08:53.80\00:08:56.70 perfect. 00:08:56.70\00:08:58.20 JAIME: .is perfect. 00:08:58.20\00:08:59.30 BILL: Yeah. 00:08:59.30\00:08:59.86 JAIME: Things are not. 00:08:59.86\00:09:01.40 And I didn't want to project something that I was not or 00:09:01.40\00:09:03.30 somebody that I was not. 00:09:03.30\00:09:04.80 But you know, I think it was the devil saying to me, "You're a 00:09:04.80\00:09:07.80 loser. You're a fake. 00:09:07.80\00:09:09.43 You don't have any business getting up there in front of 00:09:09.43\00:09:12.23 people and telling them. 00:09:12.23\00:09:13.36 " But you know what? 00:09:13.36\00:09:14.83 It's those people that have experienced God's grace that can 00:09:14.83\00:09:19.26 share that with others, because there are others that are hurting silently out 00:09:19.26\00:09:23.00 there. 00:09:23.00\00:09:24.13 There are others who don't know where to go, you know. 00:09:24.13\00:09:26.90 I didn't know where to turn to. 00:09:26.90\00:09:28.73 I was afraid. 00:09:28.73\00:09:30.13 What if somebody finds out I'm having problems? 00:09:30.13\00:09:32.26 And so I didn't know who I could talk to or where I could go. 00:09:32.26\00:09:35.80 And eventually, we did go to counselling, but you know, those 00:09:35.80\00:09:39.53 things didn't help, unfortunately. 00:09:39.53\00:09:40.76 You need Christian counsellors that can help. 00:09:40.76\00:09:43.56 BILL: Yes. 00:09:43.56\00:09:45.10 JAIME: We need. you know, there are things that churches have 00:09:45.10\00:09:47.36 set in place to help. 00:09:47.36\00:09:48.86 I sort of recoiled, you know, and hid in a cave, and that only 00:09:48.86\00:09:54.26 made things worse. 00:09:54.26\00:09:55.26 We need to be able to help others and share. 00:09:55.26\00:09:57.76 We need to be able to talk about it openly. 00:09:57.76\00:09:59.53 BILL: I want to pick up on that, but I want to take a quick break 00:09:59.53\00:10:03.70 now, because earlier, you had the chance to tape some songs, and I believe now we're 00:10:03.70\00:10:09.06 going to listen to "I Surrender All. 00:10:09.06\00:10:11.23 " JAIME: Yes. 00:10:11.23\00:10:12.53 [Violin Music] 00:10:15.73\00:13:22.23 BILL: Well, that was beautiful. 00:13:26.73\00:13:28.10 We're going to get a chance to hear another number from you a 00:13:28.10\00:13:29.96 little bit later. 00:13:29.96\00:13:31.16 But a couple things. one thing I want to say to you. 00:13:31.16\00:13:33.86 I commend you on your honesty, man, and your openness. 00:13:33.86\00:13:37.80 And I think you're doing a lot of good. JAIME: I hope so. 00:13:37.80\00:13:44.10 BILL: .as you open up and share some of this that you went 00:13:44.10\00:13:46.80 through. JAIME: That's my desire, is for people to be able to be blessed, to be able 00:13:46.80\00:13:50.96 to be encouraged. 00:13:50.96\00:13:52.36 And again, to point to Jesus Christ as our only answer, as 00:13:52.36\00:13:56.43 our only solution, as our only hope. 00:13:56.43\00:13:58.30 BILL: I have to tell you that sometimes, I'm afraid that our 00:13:58.30\00:14:00.70 churches are not places where we can come and be as honest as we 00:14:00.70\00:14:04.73 would like to be. JAIME: Yeah. 00:14:04.73\00:14:06.16 BILL: .for fear that someone might think that, "I'm having 00:14:06.16\00:14:07.86 problems. " But if we could foster within our churches, 00:14:07.86\00:14:11.76 within our church communities, you know, an environment where I 00:14:11.76\00:14:15.86 could come. You know, we're afraid to sometimes tell that, "I spent the whole night 00:14:15.86\00:14:18.56 crying over an issue in my life," because, "Should I share that with my friends 00:14:18.56\00:14:22.36 and my church, lest they're going to think I'm weak? 00:14:22.36\00:14:24.70 " JAIME: Exactly. 00:14:24.70\00:14:26.06 BILL: And so you're doing a lot of good, man. 00:14:26.06\00:14:28.63 And so God bless you. 00:14:28.63\00:14:30.96 JAIME: Praise the Lord. 00:14:30.96\00:14:32.43 BILL: But you know, it is a challenge. 00:14:32.43\00:14:34.26 I mean, you are up front. 00:14:34.26\00:14:35.96 You are there. 00:14:35.96\00:14:37.10 And you're right: people are looking up to you. 00:14:37.10\00:14:39.00 And the devil is hammering on you, saying, you know, "You're 00:14:39.00\00:14:42.60 not worthy. You're not worthy. 00:14:42.60\00:14:43.63 " JAIME: And he's right. 00:14:43.63\00:14:45.40 BILL: And you know what? 00:14:45.40\00:14:46.53 We're not worthy. 00:14:46.53\00:14:47.66 JAIME: Jesus is. 00:14:47.66\00:14:48.80 BILL: But Jesus is worthy. 00:14:48.80\00:14:50.50 JAIME: Amen. 00:14:50.50\00:14:51.46 BILL: And that's the promise that we claim. 00:14:51.46\00:14:53.93 And I'm happy to say that that aspect of your life has had a 00:14:53.93\00:14:57.90 happy resolution. 00:14:57.90\00:14:59.86 JAIME: Yes. 00:14:59.86\00:15:01.40 BILL: Why don't you share a little bit with our viewers 00:15:01.40\00:15:03.03 about that? JAIME: Okay. 00:15:03.03\00:15:04.13 Well, for nearly nine years, I basically gave up. 00:15:04.13\00:15:09.60 I looked for other things to take up my time. 00:15:09.60\00:15:14.86 I worked hard. 00:15:14.86\00:15:16.00 I travelled. 00:15:16.00\00:15:16.96 I spent time with family and friends. 00:15:16.96\00:15:18.76 I did good things, you know. 00:15:18.76\00:15:20.23 But it wasn't until I believe that I came before the Lord and 00:15:20.23\00:15:24.46 I said, "Lord, the only thing I really need in my life is You," that he opened up a 00:15:24.46\00:15:29.50 door that hadn't opened before. 00:15:29.50\00:15:32.73 You know, I certainly tried. 00:15:32.73\00:15:36.13 I pursued a relationship. 00:15:36.13\00:15:40.46 I gave it a try, but you know, nothing was working. 00:15:40.46\00:15:43.63 And so I said, "You know what? 00:15:43.63\00:15:44.70 I'm going to focus on pursuing God. 00:15:44.70\00:15:46.36 " BILL: Hmm. 00:15:46.36\00:15:47.76 "Seek ye first the kingdom of God. 00:15:47.76\00:15:49.23 " JAIME: Precisely right. 00:15:49.23\00:15:50.36 And when I did, God healed my heart. 00:15:50.36\00:15:53.13 Because I told my mother eighteen months ago, "I am never 00:15:53.13\00:15:59.20 getting married again, Mother. 00:15:59.20\00:16:00.20 " I said, "I'm going to marry my violin. 00:16:00.20\00:16:02.03 " I spend, you know, so many days on the road already with 00:16:02.03\00:16:06.30 the violin. I said, "She makes beautiful music. 00:16:06.30\00:16:09.16 She only talks back when I tell her to. 00:16:09.16\00:16:11.90 You know, I'm going to focus on that and I'm going to focus on 00:16:11.90\00:16:15.56 family and friends and you know, my life is full. 00:16:15.56\00:16:20.23 " And she said, "That's great. 00:16:20.23\00:16:22.03 Just don't close the door to what God may have for you. 00:16:22.03\00:16:25.36 " And I put it away in the back of my mind. 00:16:25.36\00:16:28.26 "That's just my mother talking, you know. 00:16:28.26\00:16:30.06 She means well. 00:16:30.06\00:16:31.50 " But indeed, as the Lord worked in the right ways in my heart, 00:16:31.50\00:16:36.90 because everything He does is right, He brought me to the 00:16:36.90\00:16:40.13 place where I was ready. 00:16:40.13\00:16:41.93 And I met a young lady three years ago at a concert, just 00:16:41.93\00:16:46.56 like many people that I meet. 00:16:46.56\00:16:48.60 Nothing happened for months. 00:16:48.60\00:16:51.36 And then we exchanged some communication on Facebook. 00:16:51.36\00:16:54.50 I saw her, I visited her, because she was nearby where I 00:16:54.50\00:16:58.43 lived. We spent a little time together. 00:16:58.43\00:17:00.43 But I didn't think of anything else. 00:17:00.43\00:17:02.76 She was a professional women's football player. 00:17:02.76\00:17:06.30 And I'm talking about American football, not soccer football. 00:17:06.30\00:17:09.26 BILL: Wow. 00:17:09.26\00:17:10.76 JAIME: So when I saw her face to face and we talked, she's a 00:17:10.76\00:17:12.53 wonderful, sweet, young lady. 00:17:12.53\00:17:14.26 But the prospect of having somebody put on her uniform and 00:17:14.26\00:17:19.53 run me over and tackle me if I did something wrong, it's like, 00:17:19.53\00:17:23.06 you know, maybe I don't want to mess with this. 00:17:23.06\00:17:24.50 And so a little time went by, a year and a half, as a matter of 00:17:24.50\00:17:28.33 fact. And it was in September of 2012 that, out of the blue, I 00:17:28.33\00:17:36.26 was doing some concerts in Hawaii. 00:17:36.26\00:17:37.53 And I went to her Facebook page. 00:17:37.53\00:17:38.93 And she had a picture of the beach in Puerto Rico where she 00:17:38.93\00:17:44.10 was. And I thought, "Oh, hey, I'm at the beach, she's at the 00:17:44.10\00:17:47.20 beach. " I sent her a little text message saying, "I hope you're having a wonderful 00:17:47.20\00:17:50.43 time," you know. 00:17:50.43\00:17:51.76 And she texted back and we began to talk. 00:17:51.76\00:17:53.70 And in the next couple of months, as we communicated more, 00:17:53.70\00:18:00.20 we both realized that the Lord was doing something in our hearts and in our lives to bring 00:18:00.20\00:18:04.13 us together. 00:18:04.13\00:18:05.13 She had also gone through a very sad divorce. 00:18:05.13\00:18:07.90 She had given her heart to the Lord years before. 00:18:07.90\00:18:11.43 BILL: Wow. 00:18:11.43\00:18:12.43 JAIME: So this was a new phase for her as well. 00:18:12.43\00:18:15.13 But we were both scared. 00:18:15.13\00:18:16.56 When you've had your heart broken, when you've suffered so 00:18:16.56\00:18:19.20 much, you don't want to jump into something. 00:18:19.20\00:18:20.93 But we prayed and we said, "Lord, if this is your will, 00:18:20.93\00:18:24.76 open the doors. " And you know, He did in an amazing way. 00:18:24.76\00:18:28.26 Now at my age, I certainly don't have to be, you know, calling or 00:18:28.26\00:18:35.30 writing and waiting and seeing. 00:18:35.30\00:18:36.80 When I knew that this is what the Lord had for me, man, I went 00:18:36.80\00:18:41.80 after her and I told her, "I'm going to pursue you until you tell me to go away. 00:18:41.80\00:18:44.36 " And she said, "All right. 00:18:44.36\00:18:46.50 " And I did. 00:18:46.50\00:18:47.73 And the Lord brought us together. 00:18:47.73\00:18:49.23 And in July of 2013, this year, we got married. 00:18:49.23\00:18:55.46 BILL: Oh, to God's glory, man. 00:18:55.46\00:18:56.80 Congratulations. 00:18:56.80\00:18:57.90 JAIME: And he is calling us. thank you. 00:18:57.90\00:18:59.50 He has brought us together and equipped us perfectly so that we 00:18:59.50\00:19:02.30 can do ministry together with her background as a professional 00:19:02.30\00:19:05.80 athlete. She has a passion for inviting people to live their lives to the fullest 00:19:05.80\00:19:10.90 to serve God to the fullest. 00:19:10.90\00:19:13.73 And so we want to encourage couples to stay together, to do 00:19:13.73\00:19:18.33 the things we're doing, to keep the marriage alive and happy and burning for the Lord 00:19:18.33\00:19:25.23 and with the right love that he's placed in our hearts, and 00:19:25.23\00:19:29.43 to also encourage people, eat right, exercise right so that 00:19:29.43\00:19:33.13 you can have more energy and more capacity to serve the Lord in everything that you do. 00:19:33.13\00:19:38.43 BILL: I mean, isn't it incredible how God. we have a 00:19:38.43\00:19:41.56 saying in Portuguese. 00:19:41.56\00:19:42.56 And I don't know if you have it in Spanish. 00:19:42.56\00:19:44.00 That says: God can write straight even though the lines 00:19:44.00\00:19:47.96 may be crooked, right? 00:19:47.96\00:19:49.60 JAIME: Yes. 00:19:49.60\00:19:51.50 BILL: And so you know, the devil. and I believe with all my 00:19:51.50\00:19:54.30 heart it was the devil that brought this into your life, that destroyed your marriage. 00:19:54.30\00:19:56.53 Anything that involves separation can't be from God. 00:19:56.53\00:19:58.73 But how God healed and has brought the two of you together. 00:19:58.73\00:20:04.90 And now the two of you can speak to this reality that is a plague 00:20:04.90\00:20:10.83 in our society today, marriages breaking down. 00:20:10.83\00:20:12.90 It's a tragedy. 00:20:12.90\00:20:14.43 And you can speak to that at a level that I can't because, I 00:20:14.43\00:20:18.10 mean, thankfully, and I hope I never have to go through that. 00:20:18.10\00:20:21.43 JAIME: Praise the Lord, that's right. 00:20:21.43\00:20:24.66 BILL: You know, through what you've gone through, Jaime. 00:20:24.66\00:20:26.46 You know, and I have my issue and we each have our own issues. 00:20:26.46\00:20:28.63 JAIME: Certainly. 00:20:28.63\00:20:30.10 BILL: But it's incredible to me, listening to you, how you just 00:20:30.10\00:20:31.60 see God's hand saying, you know, "When you put your life in my hands, I'm going to 00:20:31.60\00:20:35.30 take you," and he's going to do a wonderful work through you and 00:20:35.30\00:20:40.26 your wife to impact many, many marriages. 00:20:40.26\00:20:44.93 I believe that with all my heart, man. 00:20:44.93\00:20:47.30 For someone that's listening that's going through that right 00:20:47.30\00:20:50.33 now, saying, "Yeah, man, that's for you, but that'll never happen to me," what advice 00:20:50.33\00:20:54.73 would you give to someone that's sitting there in that pit of 00:20:54.73\00:20:58.80 despair that you were, you know, just a few short years ago? 00:20:58.80\00:21:01.80 What would you say to them? 00:21:01.80\00:21:03.23 JAIME: Get down on your knees and ask God to be in control. 00:21:03.23\00:21:08.60 You know, marriage is not everybody giving 50/50; it's everybody giving 100 00:21:08.60\00:21:15.06 and 100. 00:21:15.06\00:21:17.23 And it's the same thing in our relationship with God. 00:21:17.23\00:21:19.53 God gave it all. 00:21:19.53\00:21:21.06 He gave Jesus and he's still giving all. 00:21:21.06\00:21:23.03 We have to give all. 00:21:23.03\00:21:24.33 We can't just keep a little something for ourselves. 00:21:24.33\00:21:26.76 So in a relationship and a marriage, you can't have that 00:21:26.76\00:21:30.46 pride saying, "I'm going to do it my way because I need to show 00:21:30.46\00:21:33.93 her I'm boss. " No. 00:21:33.93\00:21:34.70 It's all about giving. 00:21:34.70\00:21:36.23 Because when we give, we receive. 00:21:36.23\00:21:38.70 You know, the more time I spend with my wife, the more I romance 00:21:38.70\00:21:43.13 her, the more she gives me her love. 00:21:43.13\00:21:46.83 And so the more we give, the more we're going to get back. 00:21:46.83\00:21:50.16 And so I invite people to invest the time to spend in prayer and 00:21:50.16\00:21:55.90 in laughter and singing and holding hands and doing special things to continue to make 00:21:55.90\00:22:01.23 it special so that the relationship will thrive and not 00:22:01.23\00:22:06.66 shrink and die. BILL: We're short on time. 00:22:06.66\00:22:09.56 We have another song we want to get to before we leave. 00:22:09.56\00:22:11.66 What is this one we're going to hear now? 00:22:11.66\00:22:14.20 JAIME: "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty. 00:22:14.20\00:22:16.66 " BILL: Let's listen to that, Jaime. 00:22:16.66\00:22:19.00 [Violin Music] 00:22:28.40\00:25:39.16 BILL: We'd like to offer you a DVD of this program. 00:26:02.00\00:26:04.23 I think Jaime touched on such important principles for those 00:26:04.23\00:26:08.66 that are married, those that are thinking about marriage, those that maybe are going 00:26:08.66\00:26:11.93 through some struggles in their marriage. 00:26:11.93\00:26:13.46 And we'd like you to have this on DVD in your homes. 00:26:13.46\00:26:17.06 You can share it with your friends and family. 00:26:17.06\00:26:18.66 It is our gift to you. 00:26:18.66\00:26:20.63 Here's the information you need to get your copy. 00:26:20.63\00:26:24.46 BILL: Well, Jaime, thank you again for being here. JAIME: 00:27:25.36\00:27:28.60 Thank you. BILL: .this week also with us. 00:27:28.60\00:27:29.60 JAIME: It was a pleasure. 00:27:29.60\00:27:30.63 BILL: Please remind our viewers of your website. 00:27:30.63\00:27:32.46 JAIME: JaimeJorge.com. 00:27:32.46\00:27:34.93 BILL: We'll make sure to put a link on our website, itiswrittencanada.ca. 00:27:34.93\00:27:38.36 JAIME: Thank you. 00:27:38.36\00:27:39.86 BILL: On the website, Jaime has a beautiful 25th anniversary 00:27:39.86\00:27:44.03 concert DVD. He has it on Blu-ray. 00:27:44.03\00:27:45.23 You're going to want to get that. 00:27:45.23\00:27:46.70 You can get that at JaimeJorge.com. 00:27:46.70\00:27:48.73 Tonight, I will be at the Windsor Seventh-Day Adventist 00:27:48.73\00:27:53.20 Church for our Countdown to Life Bible seminar. 00:27:53.20\00:27:56.53 Why don't you come out and join us? 00:27:56.53\00:27:58.06 If you're not in the Windsor area, you can still join us. 00:27:58.06\00:28:00.80 How? 00:28:00.80\00:28:01.53 On the internet. 00:28:01.53\00:28:02.96 Go to our website, itiswrittencanada.ca. 00:28:02.96\00:28:05.50 Click on the "watch live" tab and you will be able to watch 00:28:05.50\00:28:10.30 our Bible seminar from Windsor on any mobile device, iPhone, 00:28:10.30\00:28:16.36 Android, iPad. You name it, you can watch it. 00:28:16.36\00:28:19.00 I hope you will join us. 00:28:19.00\00:28:20.26 We hope to be back next week. 00:28:20.26\00:28:22.86 In fact, we'll be praying that you will be here with us. 00:28:22.86\00:28:26.33 Until then, remember, it is written: Man shall not live by 00:28:26.33\00:28:32.96 bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of 00:28:32.96\00:28:38.13