Participants: Bill Santos (Host), Pr. Omar Palmer, Dr. Errol Lawrence
Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC201122
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00:01 >>BILL: MAMIE ADAMS ALWAYS WENT TO A BRANCH POST
00:02 OFFICE IN HER TOWN BECAUSE THE POSTAL EMPLOYEES THERE 00:05 WERE FRIENDLY. SHE WENT THERE TO BUY STAMPS JUST 00:09 BEFORE CHRISTMAS ONE YEAR AND THE LINES WERE 00:11 PARTICULARLY LONG. SOMEONE POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS 00:15 NO NEED TO WAIT IN LINE BECAUSE THERE WAS A STAMP 00:20 MACHINE IN THE LOBBY. "I KNOW," SAID MAMIE, 'BUT 00:21 THE MACHINE WON'T ASK ME ABOUT MY ARTHRITIS." 00:29 (MUSIC) 00:39 >>ANNOUNCER: IT HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME . . . 00:41 GOD'S BOOK, THE BIBLE. 00:45 STILL RELEVANT IN TODAY'S COMPLEX WORLD. 00:49 IT IS WRITTEN . . 00:49 . SHARING MESSAGES OF HOPE AROUND THE WORLD. 01:04 (MUSIC) 01:15 BRITISH STATESMAN AND FINANCIER CECIL RHODES, 01:16 WHOSE FORTUNE WAS USED TO ENDOW THE WORLD-FAMOUS 01:19 RHODES SCHOLARSHIPS, WAS A STICKLER FOR CORRECT 01:23 DRESS--BUT APPARENTLY NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF SOMEONE 01:24 ELSE'S FEELINGS. A YOUNG MAN INVITED TO DINE WITH 01:29 RHODES ARRIVED BY TRAIN AND HAD TO GO DIRECTLY TO 01:35 RHODES'S HOME IN HIS TRAVEL-STAINED CLOTHES. 01:36 ONCE THERE HE WAS APPALLED TO FIND THE OTHER GUESTS 01:40 ALREADY ASSEMBLED, WEARING FULL EVENING DRESS. AFTER 01:46 WHAT SEEMED A LONG TIME RHODES APPEARED, IN 01:47 A SHABBY OLD BLUE SUIT. 01:52 LATER THE YOUNG MAN LEARNED THAT HIS HOST HAD 01:53 BEEN DRESSED IN EVENING CLOTHES, BUT PUT ON THE 01:58 OLD SUIT WHEN HE HEARD OF HIS YOUNG GUEST'S DILEMMA. 02:04 YOU JUST DON'T GET UP IN THE MORNING AND SAY, 02:05 "BEGINNING TODAY, I'M GOING TO BE KIND." EVEN 02:08 THE BEST INTENTIONS FAIL IF WE RELY ON OUR OWN 02:15 STRENGTH. PAUL CALLED KINDNESS A FRUIT OF THE 02:16 SPIRIT BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE GROWN EFFECTIVELY 02:21 WITHOUT THE SPIRIT'S CONTINUING WORK IN OUR 02:27 LIVES. 02:32 LET ME WELCOME ALL OF OUR VIEWERS TO THE "IT IS 02:33 WRITTEN" PROGRAM. ON THIS WEEK'S PROGRAM WE ARE 02:36 CONTINUING OUR STUDY ON THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT 02:39 FOUND IN GALATIANS CHAPTER 5 AND TO HELP ME TODAY 02:40 I'VE INVITED TWO SPECIAL GUESTS, PASTOR OMAR PALMER 02:44 AND DR. ERROL LAWRENCE THANK YOU DOCTOR AND 02:49 PASTOR FOR BEING WITH US. 02:50 PASTOR PALMER YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. >>PASTOR 02:54 PALMER: YES. >>BILL: AND WE ARE CONSIDERING YOU 02:55 A REGULAR HERE ON OUR PROGRAM. >>PASTOR PALMER: 02:58 CERTAINLY, IT SEEMS THAT WAY. >>BILL: THAT'S 03:01 WONDERFUL. NOW, REMIND US OF WHERE YOU SERVE 03:02 >>PASTOR PALMER: OKAY, I SERVE AT THE MEADOWVALE 03:06 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH WHICH IS IN 03:08 MISSISSAUGA. >>BILL: OKAY. 03:08 >>PASTOR PALMER: OUR MAYOR IS HAZEL MCCALLION. YOU 03:12 KNOW, IT'S A VERY FAMOUS CITY. >>BILL: ABSOLUTELY. 03:13 AND YOUR WEBSITE OF THAT CHURCH. >>PASTOR 03:14 PALMER: OUR WEBSITE WWW.MEADOWVALE.ORG. 03:20 >>BILL: .ORG. OKAY. 03:21 AND DR. LAWRENCE, THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING OUR 03:23 INVITATION TO BE HERE. 03:23 >>DR. LAWRENCE: I AM GLAD TO BE HERE, BILL. THANK 03:25 YOU. >>BILL: WELL, THANK YOU. DR. LAWRENCE 03:26 RIGHT NOW IS SERVING IN ADMINISTRATION AT 03:29 THE ONTARIO CONFERENCE OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST 03:32 CHURCH. HE IS THE MINISTERIAL DIRECTOR OR 03:33 THE PASTOR'S PASTOR. >>DR. 03:38 LAWRENCE: THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL ME. >>BILL: I GUESS 03:39 THAT WOULD YOU MAKE YOU HIS BOSS, RIGHT? >>DR. 03:41 LAWRENCE: HIS BOSS, THAT'S CORRECT. >>BILL: IS THAT 03:44 RIGHT? >>DR. LAWRENCE: HE'S GOT TO BE ON HIS BEST 03:45 BEHAVIOUR. >>BILL: HE'S GOING TO BE ON HIS BEST 03:47 BEHAVIOUR. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR.TELL US A 03:50 LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU. 03:50 WHERE WERE YOU BORN? >>DR. 03:51 LAWRENCE: ME. I AM BORN IN THE BEAUTIFUL ISLAND 03:53 OF JAMAICA. >>BILL: OH, WONDERFUL. >>DR. LAWRENCE: 03:55 WE LIVED IN ENGLAND, WEST AFRICA, U.S., NOW IN 03:57 CANADA. GLAD TO BE HERE. 04:02 >>BILL: THAT'S RIGHT. AND AS WE TAPE THIS I KNOW YOU 04:03 JUST GOT BACK FROM THE FAR EAST, RIGHT? >>DR. 04:05 LAWRENCE: WE WERE IN THE PHILIPPINES FOR THREE 04:08 WEEKS. >>BILL: THAT'S RIGHT. SO, WE APPRECIATE 04:09 YOU COMING AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE STILL ADJUSTING 04:14 TO THE TIME DIFFERENCE BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE. 04:18 WE ARE DOING KINDNESS. 04:18 RIGHT? BUT THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT IS LOVE, JOY, 04:24 PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS. THE ATTRIBUTES, 04:25 THE CHARACTERISTICS, IF WE WANT, PAUL SAYS THAT 04:29 OTHERS WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE TO KNOW THAT THE 04:33 SPIRIT IS PRODUCING SOMETHING IN YOU. YOU 04:34 KNOW, I THINK KINDNESS IS ONE OF THE ATTRIBUTES YOU 04:42 WOULD EXPECT FROM SOMEONE WHO IS A FOLLOWER OF JESUS 04:46 CHRIST. ALTHOUGH, BOY, I'LL TELL YOU, SOMETIMES 04:47 THE LEAST KIND PEOPLE YOU ENCOUNTER, IF WE'RE GOING 04:56 TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT THIS, SOMETIMES CAN BE 05:01 CHRISTIANS. WHY IS THAT? 05:01 WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR US TO BE KIND? AND WHAT DOES 05:08 KINDNESS EVEN MEAN? >>DR. 05:09 LAWRENCE: WELL, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE TRY TO EQUATE 05:13 KINDNESS WITH BEING NICE BUT KINDNESS AND NICENESS 05:14 ARE NOT REALLY THE SAME THING. >>BILL: OH, OKAY. 05:19 >>DR. LAWRENCE: NICE AS A FRIEND IS BEING AGREEABLE. 05:24 >>BILL: RIGHT. >>DR. 05:24 LAWRENCE: AND YOU CAN DO NICE THINGS AND NOT BE 05:27 KIND. >>BILL: INTERESTING. 05:28 >>DR. LAWRENCE: BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT KINDNESS, IT'S 05:32 LIKE GOODNESS IN ACTION. 05:33 >>BILL: GOODNESS IN ACTION. >>DR. LAWRENCE: 05:37 YES. >>BILL: I LIKE THAT. 05:38 >>DR. LAWRENCE: AND WE ARE KIND EVEN THOUGH WE MAY 05:41 NOT LIKE A PERSON, WE CAN STILL BE KIND TO THAT 05:42 PERSON. EVEN THOUGH THE PERSON MAY DO US TERRIBLE 05:46 THINGS WE CAN STILL BE KIND TO THAT PERSON. WE 05:50 MAY NOT FEEL LIKE BEING NICE BUT WE CAN 05:51 ACT KINDLY. >>BILL: INTERESTING. >>PASTOR 05:55 PALMER: I AGREE WITH DR. LAWRENCE BUT I HAVE 05:58 TO.>>BILL: THAT'S RIGHT. 05:59 >>PASTOR PALMER:.BUT IN ANY CASE I HAVE TO AGREE 06:03 WITH HIM. AND SOMEONE ONCE SAID, IT TAKES ONLY A 06:04 MOMENT TO BE KIND BUT THE RESULTS CAN LAST A 06:06 LIFETIME. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW WE ARE TODAY, IN 06:11 TODAY'S PORLISTIC? SOCIETY I THINK WHY SOME PEOPLE, 06:12 TO YOUR QUESTION, WHY SOME PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE BIT 06:15 TENTATIVE IN BEING KIND IS FOR THE FACT THAT THEIR 06:19 KINDNESS CAN BE MISCONSTRUED. FOR ME, 06:20 IN MY CULTURE, IN MY DISPOSITION BEING KIND MAY 06:25 NOT NECESSARILY BE BEING KIND TO YOU. ME COMING UP 06:30 TO YOU AND OFFER TO.I REMEMBER ONCE I WAS 06:30 OFFERING AN OLDER PERSON IN THE SUPERMARKET AND 06:36 I NEVER UNDERSTOOD UNTIL LATER WHY SHE REACTED THE 06:40 WAY SHE DID. I OFFERED TO TAKE HER BAGS BUT I LATER 06:41 REALIZED THAT WHEN SHE SOMEHOW BRUSHED ME OFF, 06:46 SO TO SPEAK, WHEN SHE DID THAT I FOUND OUT THAT THE 06:51 REASON SHE DID IT WAS NOT SO MUCH THAT SHE DIDN'T 06:52 APPRECIATE MY GESTURE OF KINDNESS, IT'S JUST THAT 06:55 SHE WAS ALWAYS PLACED IN A POSITION WHERE SHE WAS 06:58 NEVER ABLE TO DO ANYTHING FOR HERSELF. SO, SHE 06:59 WANTED TO EXERCISE HER OWN FREE WILL. AND SO WE HAVE 07:04 TO UNDERSTAND AT TIMES THAT KINDNESS, EVEN THOUGH 07:08 IT MAY NOT BE RECIPROCATED OR ACCEPTED OR SOMEONE MAY 07:09 NOT APPRECIATE IT, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT 07:15 YOU'RE NOT BEING KIND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT 07:17 YOU SHOULD ALWAYS EXPECT SOME RESULT FROM. IN FACT, 07:18 I'M, I'M PRONE TO BELIEVE THAT THE GREATEST ACT 07:24 OF KINDNESS IS ONE DONE WITHOUT EVER HAVING AN 07:29 OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IT RECIPROCATED TO YOU. >>DR. 07:30 LAWRENCE: I THINK, HERE TOO, WHEN WE LOOK AT 07:34 KINDNESS IT'S THE ABILITY OF BEING ABLE, AS YOU 07:38 SAID, TO DO THINGS WITHOUT EXPECTING ANYTHING BACK 07:39 YES. AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE VERY IMPATIENT. AND 07:44 SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE VERY UNGRATEFUL AND UNTHANKFUL 07:50 BUT OUR KIND DEEDS MUST STILL BE DONE IN SPITE OF 07:51 HOW THEY RESPOND TO US. 07:54 THIS IS WHERE THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT COMES IN. WE'RE 07:55 TRYING TO BE LIKE CHRIST. 07:58 AND KINDNESS GOES BEYOND WHATEVER, OUR GENDER, 07:59 OUR RACE, WHATEVER IT IS, WHATEVER WE'VE DONE, HOW 08:05 BAD WE ARE, WE CAN STILL ACT KINDLY TOWARDS THAT 08:09 PERSON. SO, WITHIN THIS, WE FIND THIS INTERPERSONAL 08:10 RELATIONSHIP WHICH SAYS THAT WE ADAPT TO OTHER 08:14 SO, WE'RE APTABLE AND WE DON'T ALLOW WHAT THEY DO 08:22 OR WHAT THEY DON'T DO TO PREVENT US FROM DOING WHAT 08:23 IS RIGHT. >>BILL: SO WE DO WHAT IS RIGHT REGARDLESS 08:26 OF HOW OR WHAT WE RECEIVE IN RETURN FOR THAT. AS YOU 08:32 WERE SAYING, PASTOR PALMER, WE SHOULD EVEN, 08:33 TRUE KINDNESS IS DONE WHEN THERE IS NO RESPONSE EVEN 08:36 EXPECTED. >>PASTOR PALMER: RIGHT. OR NOT EVEN AN 08:44 OPPORTUNITY. >>BILL: AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO 08:45 HAPPEN. >>PASTOR PALMER: YOU DO SOMETHING TO 08:47 SOMEONE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY AND THIS WE HAVE TO 08:50 LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING KIND 08:51 AND MAKING A PERSONAL INVESTMENT BECAUSE AT 08:55 TIMES WE DO SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE BECAUSE WE KNOW 08:59 THAT THAT PERSON WILL IN RETURN DO SOMETHING EVEN 09:00 GREATER FOR US. >>BILL: THE OLD QUID PRO QUO, 09:05 RIGHT? >>PASTOR PALMER: THERE YOU GO. SO, IT'S 09:07 ALWAYS BETTER WHEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE 09:08 AND WE KNOW THAT I WILL NEVER SEE THIS PERSON 09:12 AGAIN. I REMEMBER AS A CHILD GROWING UP IN 09:16 JAMAICA AND WE USED TO HAVE VISITING DENTISTS AND 09:17 NURSES AND DOCTORS WHO'D COME TO OUR COMMUNITY. A 09:22 VERY POOR NEIGHBOURHOOD I GREW UP IN. AND WHEN THEY 09:26 WOULD COME I WOULD LOOK BACK AT IT NOW, AND 09:27 I WOULD ASK MYSELF THE QUESTION, THEY NEVER 09:30 EXPECTED TO SEE ONE OF THOSE PERSONS THAT THEY 09:35 WORKED ON THEY JUST WANTED TO SEE THAT PERSON WITH 09:36 A BEAUTIFUL SMILE. BEING ABLE TO SMILE PROPERLY 09:42 AND HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE. 09:42 THEY WOULD NEVER MEET THEM AGAIN BUT YET THEY TOOK 09:45 THEIR TIME, LEFT THEIR COUNTRY AND CAME TO OUR 09:48 POOR, IMPOVERISHED NEIGHBOURHOOD AND 09:49 ASSISTED US. THAT TO ME IS NDNESS. >>BILL: YES. G 09:53 AHEAD DR. LAWRENCE. >>DR. 09:54 LAWRENCE: I THINK HERE TOO, SOMETIMES EVEN AS 09:57 WE THINK OF THE WORD KINDNESS, SOME PEOPLE 09:59 THINK OF THE WORD 'PITY'. 09:59 AND PITY IS NOT KINDNESS. 10:00 >>PASTOR PALMER: THAT'S IT. >>DR. LAWRENCE: 10:04 BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO WORDS WE NEED TO CONSIDER 10:05 TO KINDNESS, PITY AND COMPASSION. KINDNESS IS 10:06 MORE ON THE COMPASSION SIDE. PITY CAN JUST WEEP 10:09 AND WALK AWAY. >>BILL: RIGHT. >>DR. LAWRENCE: BUT 10:14 COMPASSION COMES AND IT STAYS. AND I THINK ONE OF 10:15 THE GREATEST ILLUSTRATIONS IN THE BIBLE IS THE ONE 10:19 OF THE GOOD SAMARITAN >>PASTOR PALMER: YES. 10:21 >>DR. LAWRENCE: HE CAME TO A MAN WHO WAS HELPLESS, HE 10:22 DIDN'T KNOW THE MAN, THERE WAS NOTHING THE MAN COULD 10:26 DO FOR HIM AND HE HELPED HIM AND HE WAS WILLING TO 10:29 COME BACK AND DO MORE FOR THAT SAME MAN. SO, 10:30 THAT COMPASSION AND THAT KINDNESS GO TOGETHER. 10:33 >>BILL: SO, WOULD IT BE THEN FAIR TO SAY THAT 10:37 KINDNESS, THERE'S COST ASSOCIATED TO KINDNESS 10:38 >>DR. LAWRENCE: YES THERE IS. THERE IS. AND IT COSTS 10:43 YOU TO BE KIND BUT YOU DON'T CONSIDER THOSE COSTS 10:46 EITHER. >>BILL: YOU KNOW, AS YOU TALK ABOUT THESE 10:47 YOU REALLY BEGIN TO, YOU KNOW, I GET THE SENSE THAT 10:52 THEY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE CHARACTERISTICS ALL 10:56 BLEND, ALL BLEND TOGETHER. 10:57 I THINK PART OF THE REASON, THAT'S WHY PAUL 11:00 CALLS IT FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT, RIGHT? >>DR. 11:01 LAWRENCE: SINGULAR. 11:03 >>BILL: SINGULAR. THEY ALL COME TOGETHER AND I'LL 11:04 TELL YOU PASTOR PALMER, ONE THING THAT REALLY 11:07 RESONATED WITH ME WAS THIS IDEA, WITH WHAT YOU SAID 11:10 WAS THIS IDEA THAT FOLKS DOING KINDNESS OR BEING 11:11 KIND WHERE THEY DO NOT EXPECT, THEY DON'T EVEN 11:17 THINK THAT PERSON WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO REPAY 11:21 THEM. I THINK OF RECENT STORIES I'VE BEEN READING 11:22 ABOUT HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE 11:26 IN POLAND AND THERE'S THE FAMOUS SCHINDLER'S LIST 11:33 MOVIE THAT MOST OF US HAVE SEEN OR HEARD OF WHERE 11:34 THESE ACTS OF KINDNESS OR COMPASSION - I MEAN, 11:39 WE CAN GET INTO IT IS IT LOVE, IS IT KINDNESS, IS 11:43 IT BUT THESE ACTS WHERE THERE WAS NO EXPECTATION 11:44 THAT THESE, THAT THESE JEWISH PEOPLE WHO WERE 11:51 RECEIVING THIS KINDNESS WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO 11:55 REPAY. I MEAN CHANCES ARE THAT MOST OF THEM WERE NOT 11:56 EVEN GOING TO SURVIVE. BUT THOSE PEOPLE SHOWED THAT 12:01 KINDNESS AND, IN FACT, THERE'S - I SAW THE MOVIE, 12:06 SCHINDLER'S LIST AND THERE'S THAT SCENE WHERE, 12:07 YOU KNOW, I GET, TOWARDS THE END WHERE HE'S, HE'S 12:11 ALMOST BEATING HIMSELF UP BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE DONE 12:14 MORE. THERE'S MORE I COULD HAVE DONE, I SHOULD HAVE 12:15 DONE MORE. SO, KINDNESS AND INVESTMENT. KINDNESS 12:19 AND COST. RIGHT? WE CAN'T HAVE KINDNESS WITHOUT SOME 12:25 LEVEL OF SACRIFICE ON OUR PART. >>PASTOR PALMER: 12:26 EXACTLY. AND I'D LIKE TO THROW SOMETHING ELSE IN 12:32 AS WELL. ANOTHER LEVEL OF KINDNESS, TO TAKE IT UP 12:35 JUST ANOTHER NOTCH, A LITTLE BIT MORE, IS WHEN 12:37 SOMEONE IS MEAN TO YOU AND YOU'RE ABLE TO BE KIND 12:41 TO THAT PERSON. YOU KNOW, I'M REMINDED OF THAT SOUTH 12:45 AFRICAN LADY AND THE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION IN 12:46 MEETING THIS GENTLEMAN WHO HAD KILLED HER HUSBAND AND 12:51 WHEN SHE WENT UP AND WAS ABOUT TO GIVE HER VICTIM 12:57 IMPACT SPEECH SHE SAID THIS IS WHAT I WANT, I 12:58 WANT HIM TO COME HOME WITH ME. BECAUSE WHAT I WANT 13:03 TO DO IS GIVE TO HIM WHAT I WANTED TO GIVE TO MY 13:07 HUSBAND. ALL THE LOVE THAT I HAVE INSIDE OF ME, I 13:08 WANT TO POUR IT OUT ON HIM BECAUSE I'VE LOST MY SON, 13:12 I'VE LOST MY HUSBAND, I HAVE NO ONE ELSE TO POUR 13:15 IT OUT ON, I WANT TO DO IT TO HIM. TO ME THAT'S 13:16 KINDNESS. YOU SAY IT IS GRACE OR MERCY, IT IS 13:21 KINDNESS, IT IS LOVE. IT GIVES JOY AND IT BRINGS 13:25 PEACE. >>BILL: HOW DOES SOMEONE GET TO THAT 13:26 POINT, DR. LAWRENCE? >>DR. 13:28 LAWRENCE: AND THAT'S WHY IT'S THE FRUIT OF THE 13:29 SPIRIT. YOU SEE, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM 13:32 US. GOD HIMSELF HAS TO GIVE THAT, HELP US GROW 13:35 THAT. BECAUSE IN THIS WHOLE IDEA OF HOW SOMEBODY 13:37 TAXES YOUR PATIENCE, SOMEBODY IS REALLY RUBBING 13:41 AGAINST THE GRAIN AND YET, YOU MOVE ON TO BE KIND TO 13:46 THAT PERSON. IT DOESN'T COME NATURAL. WE WOULD 13:47 RESPOND IN A VIOLENT WAY TO SOMEONE WHO'S VIOLENT 13:51 TO US. WE TEND TO WANT TO TREAT OTHERS THE WAY THEY 13:56 WANT TO TREAT US, SO TO SPEAK. SOMEONE ONCE SAID 13:57 THAT WHAT WE NEED TO REMEMBER IS THAT 14:01 WE SHOULDN'T JUST BE OURSELVES; WE SHOULD BE 14:03 OUR NICEST SELF. >>BILL: RIGHT. >>DR. LAWRENCE: 14:04 THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY OUGHT TO BE IN BEING KIND. 14:07 >>BILL: ABSOLUTELY. >>DR. 14:08 LAWRENCE: SO, THAT COMES FROM GOD. >>BILL: SO, 14:10 YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A NEIGHBOUR THAT IRRITATES 14:14 US, A CO-WORKER, A SPOUSE, RIGHT? IT ALMOST COMES; 14:15 IT COMES TO MIND FOR ME, PETER'S QUESTION TO JESUS, 14:20 ALTHOUGH IT WAS ABOUT FORGIVENESS, HOW MANY 14:23 TIMES SHOULD I FORGIVE MY BROTHER? SEVEN TIMES AND 14:24 NO NOT SEVEN TIMES, SEVEN TIMES SEVEN THAT 14:28 REGARDLESS OF HOW PEOPLE TREAT US, PAUL, HERE, I 14:33 BELIEVE IS SAYING THAT, THAT WHEN YOU WALK WITH 14:34 THE SPIRIT ALWAYS RESPOND IN KINDNESS AND 14:41 IN COMPASSION REGARDLESS OF HOW PEOPLE TREAT YOU. 14:46 >>DR. LAWRENCE: I WAS PLAYING SOCCER ONCE. 14:47 I LOVE SOCCER AND THIS OPPOSING PLAYER AND I 14:49 GOT INTO A TUSSLE BECAUSE I WAS IN GOAL, I DIVED TO 14:55 GET THE BALL AND I MISSED IT, HE SAID, I TOUCHED 14:56 IT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CORNER AND THEN WE STARTED 14:59 ARGUING AND SO FORTH, AND WE DIDN'T FIGHT BUT WE 15:01 WERE PRETTY HEATED. 15:01 SOMETIME LATER HE WAS REFEREE FOR A GAME AND I 15:05 WAS COACH FOR THIS TEAM AND ONE OF THE SOCCER 15:06 MOM'S WAS REALLY GIVING HIM A HARD TIME AND HE 15:10 WALKED OVER TO HER AND I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO 15:15 SAY SOMETHING REALLY NASTY. AND HE LOOKED AT 15:16 HER AND HE SAID, LADY, I'M HAVING A NICE DAY, 15:18 HOW ABOUT YOU? (LAUGHTER) AND I THOUGHT, TALK ABOUT 15:22 KINDNESS AND THOSE WORDS AND LET THE SPIRIT OF GOD 15:23 USED YOU TO SAY SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT HURT THE 15:28 PERSON BUT TO MAKE THE PERSON THINK. THAT LADY 15:32 SAID NOT ANOTHER WORD DURING THE REST OF 15:33 THE GAME BECAUSE OF HOW.>>BILL: YEAH. SO, 15:34 HE WAS ABLE TO CONVEY THE MESSAGE.>>DR. LAWRENCE: OF 15:37 COURSE. >>BILL:. BUT THE MANOR BY WHICH HE CONVEYED 15:38 IT. ABSOLUTELY. >>PASTOR PALMER: AND KINDNESS 15:40 SOMETIMES IMMOBILIZES ANGER NATURALLY. IT DOES 15:47 THAT TO YOU. KINDNESS - MARK TWAIN IS THE ONE 15:48 THAT SAYS KINDNESS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT THE DEAF 15:51 CAN HEAR AND THE BLIND CAN SEE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT 15:55 DOESN'T MATTER WHO THE PERSON IS, I'VE SEEN IT 15:56 IN COMMERCIALS MANY TIMES, THESE HUGE TOWERING 16:00 FIGURE OF A PERSON AND THIS LITTLE CHILD, LIKE A 16:04 MOSQUITO, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CHILD DOES 16:05 SOMETHING KIND AND IT MELTS THE HEART OF THAT 16:08 TOWERING GIANT. KINDNESS DOES THAT TO YOU. >>BILL: 16:12 YES. >>PASTOR PALMER: SOMETIMES IT'S BETTER 16:13 TO BE KIND TO SOMEONE IN TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH 16:15 CERTAIN THINGS THAN TRYING TO BE ABRASIVE BECAUSE 16:19 THAT COULD MAKE IT EVEN WORSE. >>BILL: YEAH. 16:20 THINK THE SAD REALITY OF OUR SOCIETY IS THAT WE 16:23 ARE ACTUALLY SHOCKED WHEN SOMEONE IS KIND... >>DR. 16:28 LAWRENCE: IS KIND. 16:29 >>BILL:.TO US. I THINK WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED THAT 16:32 THAT'S NOT THE TYPICAL RESPONSE ANYMORE. I THINK 16:33 THAT'S A SAD COMMENTARY ON OUR SOCIETY. SO WHEN 16:38 SOMEONE ACTUALLY IS KIND WE ARE SOMEWHAT 16:42 SHOCKED.>>PASTOR PALMER: SURPRISED. >>BILL:.AND 16:43 SOMETIMES WE ASK WELL, WHAT DO THEY WANT? 16:46 >>PASTOR PALMER: YEAH. 16:46 >>BILL: WHAT DO THEY.WHAT ARE THEY DOING? WHAT ARE 16:50 THEY.YOU KNOW SOMEONE JUST, I MAY BE AT CHURCH 16:57 AND SOMEONE SAYS, I'D LIKE TO YOU TO COME AND HAVE 16:58 DINNER WITH US. >>PASTOR PALMER: RIGHT. RIGHT. 17:00 >>BILL: YOU KNOW THE HUMAN SIDE OF ME BEGINS TO, IN 17:02 MY HEAD, THINKING, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY WANT? 17:03 >>DR. LAWRENCE: IT'S INTERESTING, YESTERDAY I 17:07 WAS DRIVING AND AS I WAS COMING DOWN THE ROAD A 17:09 GENTLEMAN WAS COMING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND 17:10 HE TURNED RIGHT INTO THE DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF 17:12 ME BUT THEN I NOTICED HE WASN'T GOING IN BECAUSE HE 17:15 COULDN'T GO OFF THE ROAD SO I JUST STOPPED, YOU 17:16 KNOW, AND THEN HE STOPPED. 17:19 HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND THEN HE LOOKED AT ME 17:20 THEN HE REVERSED AND THEN HE THANKED ME. I SAID, 17:23 FINE AND BECAUSE HE WAS PROBABLY THINKING HE 17:25 TURNED SO ABRUPTLY THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING 17:27 TO HIM. AND I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WAS A GOOD 17:28 ACT OF KINDNESS. I DIDN'T TREAT HIM THE WAY HE 17:32 THOUGHT I WOULD TREAT HIM. >>BILL: NOW, WAIT A 17:33 SECOND. YOU JUST VENTURED INTO SOMETHING VERY 17:35 DANGEROUS. ARE YOU SAYING WE HAVE TO BE KIND EVEN ON 17:37 THE ROAD? >>DR. LAWRENCE: EVEN ON THE ROAD. BECAUSE 17:38 THAT'S IT, WE HAVE TO LIVE OUT THE FRUITS OF THE 17:41 SPIRIT. >>PASTOR PALMER: EVEN MORE SO. >>DR. 17:43 LAWRENCE: YEAH, YEAH. 17:44 >>BILL: YOU KNOW, WE FIND A LOT OF KIND, A LOT OF 17:46 KIND PEOPLE IN CHURCH. 17:46 >>PASTOR PALMER: YES, WE DO. >>DR. LAWRENCE: ONLY. 17:49 >>BILL: RIGHT? THAT'S THE ISSUE, ISN'T IT? SO HOW DO 17:50 WE, YOU KNOW - ELDER MARC JOHNSON, HE LIKES TO 17:55 SAY, YOU KNOW, LIVING THE CHRISTIAN LIFE BETWEEN THE 17:59 WEEKENDS. >>PASTOR PALMER: THAT'S RIGHT. >>BILL: 18:00 DURING IT, RIGHT? THAT KINDNESS THAT IS 18:02 DEMONSTRATED IN OUR WORK SETTING, OUR HOMES, WITH 18:07 OUR SPOUSE, OUR CHILDREN, WITH AN IRRITATING 18:08 NEIGHBOUR, ON THE ROAD. 18:11 >>DR. LAWRENCE: THAT'S RIGHT. >>BILL: 18:12 DEMONSTRATING KINDNESS. WE SAID, IT'S UNNATURAL. 18:14 >>PASTOR PALMER: RIGHT. 18:15 >>BILL: HOW DO I, HOW DOES THAT BEGIN TO HAPPEN IN 18:19 MY LIFE? >>PASTOR PALMER: WELL, YOU SEE, AND I'M 18:22 GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S UNNATURAL BECAUSE 18:23 KINDNESS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T REALLY THINK 18:27 IS DUE TO EVERYBODY, NATURALLY. WE DON'T 18:32 BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY DESERVES.>>BILL: NOT 18:33 EVERYBODY IS WORTHY OF MY KINDNESS. >>PASTOR 18:35 PALMER:.NOT WORTHY OF MY KINDNESS. WHAT DID YOU DO? 18:36 YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR ME OR TO ME TO 18:37 GET MY KINDNESS. BUT ONE SCRIPTURE PASSAGE THAT 18:40 I USE AND NOT MANY PEOPLE WOULD USE THIS AND RELATE 18:46 IT TO KINDNESS, BUT IN PROVERBS, CHAPTER 3, 18:47 VERSE 27, WHERE IT SAYS, "WITHHOLD NOT GOOD FROM 18:50 THEM TO WHOM IT IS DUE WHEN IT IS IN THE POWER OF 18:56 THINE HAND TO DO IT". AND WE MUST ALWAYS REMEMBER WE 18:57 CAN'T ALWAYS HURT SOMEBODY THAT EASILY BUT WE CAN 19:04 ALWAYS BE KIND. IT TAKES A LOT MORE TO HURT SOMEBODY 19:09 THAN TO BE KIND. BUT WE DO IT MORE BECAUSE IT 19:10 IS ACCEPTED AS A NORMAL SOCIETY. YOU KNOW, 19:15 KINDNESS IS SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM WITHIN. YOU 19:19 KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT INSIDE OF 19:20 YOU REALLY CAN'T BE KIND, YOU'RE JUST ACTING OUT 19:24 KINDNESS BUT YOU'RE NOT REALLY KIND. IT COMES FROM 19:28 WITHIN AND IT'S MANIFESTED ON THE OUTSIDE BETWEEN THE 19:30 WEEKENDS. >>DR. LAWRENCE: YEAH. BECAUSE THIS WHOLE 19:33 ORIGINAL WORD 'KINDNESS' REFERRED TO, LIKE, WHEN 19:37 LEADERS WERE IN POWER AND THEY HAD THEIR SUBJECTS 19:38 UNDER THEM. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DEMONSTRATE 19:41 THAT KINDNESS TO THE WEAKER PEOPLE. BUT WE 19:44 REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN POWER THE TENDENCY IS 19:45 THAT YOU WANT TO USE THAT POWER. WE HAVE A STRENGTH 19:50 THAT WE CAN ABUSE. SO, TO BE KIND, AND I GUESS 19:55 ANOTHER TERM THAT WE USE IS TO BE 'WEAK' IS THAT 19:56 IT'S NOT WEAKNESS BUT IT'S STRENGTH WHEN YOU REALLY 20:00 HAVE THE POWER TO PUT SOMEBODY DOWN AND YOU SAY, 20:06 NO, THAT'S NOT HOW JESUS WOULD DO IT. BECAUSE WE 20:07 ARE, AFTER ALL, FOLLOWERS OF JESUS. AND HE WAS. THE 20:11 VERY FACT THAT JOHN 3:16 SAYS, GOD SO LOVED THE 20:16 WORLD, CONSIDER WHAT THIS WORLD IS LIKE AND YET, 20:17 HE LOVES US. WE IN TURN FOLLOW HIM AND BE KIND 20:22 LIKE HE WAS. >>PASTOR PALMER: AND I REMEMBER, I 20:27 REMEMBERED, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE DR. LAWRENCE IS 20:28 HERE, BUT I REMEMBERED WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED 20:31 IN CANADA AND I WENT TO CANADIAN UNIVERSITY 20:35 COLLEGE. WHEN I WENT OUT FOR COLLEGE AND I KNEW 20:36 NOBODY, NO ONE AT ALL, I WAS COMING STRAIGHT 20:41 INTO THIS COUNTRY AS A TEENAGER, I KNEW NO ONE. 20:46 AND WHEN I GOT THERE IT WAS GOOD THAT DR. LAWRENCE 20:47 WAS THERE. HE AND HIS WIFE WOULD INVITE US OVER 20:50 AS STUDENTS. NOW, AS YOU MENTIONED BEING IN POWER, 20:54 HE WAS THE CHAIR OF THE DEPARTMENT. HE NEVER HAD 20:55 TO SIT WITH US OR DEAL WITH US BUT HE INVITED US 21:00 INTO HIS HOME AND WE SPENT SABBATH AFTERNOONS THERE 21:03 AND WEEKENDS SOMETIMES. 21:04 AND WE HAD GOOD FOOD. YOU KNOW, CAFETERIA FOOD IS 21:08 NOT ALWAYS THE BEST. 21:08 >>BILL: OH, THAT CAN TAKE ITS TOLL ON YOU. >>PASTOR 21:09 PALMER: ALRIGHT, SO THEY WERE KIND ENOUGH TO INVITE 21:10 US AND IT'S SOMETHING I'LL NEVER FORGET. BECAUSE WHEN 21:14 SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING KIND TO YOU, YOU JUST 21:19 DON'T FORGET IT. NOT EASILY. >>DR. LAWRENCE: 21:20 KINDNESS HAS A WAY OF PAYING BACK. SO, 21:22 MAYBE THE DAY WILL COME WHEN.>>PASTOR PALMER: ONE 21:24 DAY I WILL PAY YOU BACK. 21:25 (LAUGHTER) >>BILL: YEAH. 21:25 IT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. 21:26 I MEAN, WHEN YOU THINK AROUND THE TABLE WHEN 21:27 YOU CALCULATED HOW MANY SERMONS HAVE YOU ACTUALLY 21:30 PREACHED, THE THREE OF US HAVE BEEN IN MINISTRY FOR 21:34 A WHILE, AND I BET YOU IF WE POLLED PEOPLE THEY'D 21:35 FORGOTTEN THAT BUT NOT THESE ACTS OF KINDNESS. 21:39 YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO I GOT A FLAT TIRE. I HAD AN OLD 21:44 PICK-UP TRUCK AND I GOT A FLAT TIRE OUT CLOSE 21:45 TO NIAGARA FALLS AND I REALIZED I DIDN'T HAVE 21:48 A SPARE. AND I THOUGHT, WELL, NO PROBLEM, I'LL 21:53 JUST GET A TOW TRUCK AND PUT MY HAND TO MY BACK 21:54 POCKET AND I REALIZED I HADN'T BROUGHT MY WALLET. 21:57 I HAD NO SPARE, NO WALLET, NO MONEY. I DIDN'T KNOW 21:59 WHAT TO DO. I WALKED DOWN THE STREET AND THERE 22:00 HAPPENED TO BE A BAR, A NIGHTCLUB. IT WAS AROUND 22:07 LUNCHTIME. THEY WERE SERVING LUNCH AND DRINKS 22:13 AND I WALKED IN TO SEE IF I COULD USE THE TELEPHONE 22:14 TO CALL SOMEBODY TO HELP ME. AND I WALKED IN AND 22:16 IT WAS VERY DARK AND THERE WAS A BARTENDER AND I 22:19 SAID, EXCUSE ME, MAY I USE YOUR PHONE? AND HE SAID, 22:20 WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? I SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A 22:22 TRUCK, NO SPARE TIRE, NO WALLET AND I HEARD THIS 22:25 VOICE COMING OUT THE CORNER IN THE DARKNESS 22:26 WHAT KIND OF TRUCK? I COULDN'T MAKE OUT 22:31 EXACTLY WHO IT WAS. I SEE THIS BIG, BURLY, 22:36 MOTORCYCLE-RIDING GUY. 22:36 TYPICAL. >>PASTOR PALMER: SCARY. >>BILL: SCARY. I 22:40 SAID, YOU KNOW, SHEEPISHLY, I SAID IT'S 22:41 AN F-150, AN OLD F-150. HE CAME OUT OF THE DARKNESS 22:46 AND HE HAD CAR KEYS IN HIS HANDS. HE TOOK ME OUT TO 22:50 THE FRONT AND HE SAID, THAT'S MY CAR, HERE'S MY 22:51 KEYS. TAKE THIS CAR DOWN THE STREET, TAKE A LEFT; 22:54 YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A BODY SHOP. IN THE BODY 22:58 SHOP ASK FOR THIS FELLOW, TELL HIM TO GET THE TIRE 22:59 OUT OF THE BACK OF THE THUNDERBIRD, THAT TIRE 23:02 WILL FIT THE TRUCK. AND I SAID TO HIM, BUT YOU DON'T 23:06 EVEN KNOW ME. >>PASTOR PALMER: RIGHT. >>BILL: 23:07 AND HE SAID, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? YOU GOING TO STEAL 23:13 MY TRUCK, YOU GOING TO STEAL MY CAR? I SAID, NO. 23:16 AND HE SAID WHAT HAVE I GOT TO WORRY ABOUT 23:16 >>PASTOR PALMER: THERE YOU GO. >>BILL: AND IT'S, YOU 23:18 KNOW, YOU FIND SOMETIMES KINDNESS. I'LL NEVER 23:20 FORGET.I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT GENTLEMAN IS 23:21 >>PASTOR PALMER: MAY NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN. >>BILL: 23:25 MAY NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN AND I FOUND THAT IN SUCH A 23:30 STRANGE PLACE THAT I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE. I 23:31 DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT I WOULD FIND KINDNESS. I 23:36 MEAN, IF OUR SOCIETIES, IF OUR CHURCHES WERE KNOWN AS 23:40 PLACES OF COMPASSION, PLACES OF KINDNESS WE 23:41 COULD TRANSFORM OUR WORLD MORE POWERFULLY THAN ANY 23:45 SERMON. AS ELOQUENT AS YOU GENTLEMAN ARE AS PREACHERS 23:51 AND AS WELL AS I COULD PREACH, WE COULD CHANGE 23:52 OUR WORLD WITH KINDNESS. 23:54 WE HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE AND A HALF LEFT. ARE THERE 23:55 SOME CLOSING COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? >>DR. 23:58 LAWRENCE: ONE THING THAT I THINK, I THINK THAT WE 24:00 MUST ALWAYS TRY TO BE KINDER THAN IS NECESSARY 24:01 SOMETIMES WE WANT TO LIMIT, WELL, I ONLY 24:06 WANT TO DO THIS MUCH BUT KINDNESS SHOULD KNOW NO 24:08 LIMITS. I OFTEN HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT 24:09 RANDOM ACTS OF KINDNESS; I THINK THEY SHOULD BE 24:13 REGULAR ACTS OF KINDNESS >>BILL: WOW. REGULAR ACTS 24:17 OF KINDNESS. IF WE'RE GOING TO ERR LET'S ERR ON 24:18 THE SIDE OF KINDNESS THEN. 24:20 PASTOR PALMER. >>PASTOR PALMER: I THINK THAT LIKE 24:21 SOMEONE SAID, IT IS BETTER TO LIGHT ONE CANDLE THAN 24:25 TO CURSE THE DARK. AND IF WE CAN DO ONE ACT OF 24:31 KINDNESS IT CAN GO A LONG WAY. THEN WE COULD 24:32 BE UPSET ABOUT WHERE THE WORLD IS GOING AND WHERE 24:36 IT IS HEADING BUT WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT IN US AND THIS 24:39 BREATH BEHIND US WE CAN DO A LOT MORE JUST BY ONE 24:40 SIMPLE ACT OF KINDNESS. 24:47 >>BILL: GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, IT'S 24:48 IMPOSSIBLE TO PRODUCE GENUINE CHRIST-LIKE 24:51 KINDNESS, AS IS DESCRIBED HERE IN GALATIANS 5, BY 24:55 OURSELVES. WHAT IS NEEDED IS A NEW HEART AND THEN 24:56 A GROWTH PROCESS FOLLOWS WHICH CAN ONLY TAKE PLACE 25:04 AS EACH AND EVERY ONE SUBMITS TO AND OBEYS THE 25:08 HOLY SPIRIT. HE WILL NUTURE THESE POSITIVE 25:09 CHARACTER CHANGES AND THEY WILL BE REFLECTED IN OUR 25:13 RELATIONSHIPS. KINDNESS, OR THE LACK OF IT, MAKES A 25:18 DIFFERENCE IN OUR LIVES. 25:19 WE MUST PURPOSE IN OUR HEARTS NOT TO BE PART OF 25:22 THE CRUELTY, WHETHER IT BE IN OUR CHURCHES OR IN OUR 25:23 WORLD. RATHER WE MUST BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF 25:30 PEOPLE, SHOWING KINDNESS TO THOSE WE SERVE AND LIKE 25:34 WE HEARD TODAY, KINDNESS TO BOTH FRIENDS 25:35 AND ENEMIES ALIKE. DR. 25:41 LAWRENCE WOULD YOU PRAY WITH OUR VIEWERS. >>DR. 25:42 LAWRENCE: DEAR GOD, WE THANK YOU THAT YOU ARE THE 25:47 EPITOME OF ALL KINDNESS YOU CAME AND DIED FOR US 25:54 SO THAT WE MAY LIVE. 25:54 MAY WE LIVE THE LIVES OF KINDNESS THAT YOU WANT US 26:00 TO LIVE AND BRING PEACE AND HAPPINESS TO THE LIVES 26:01 OF OTHERS. WE ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS. 26:06 AMEN. >>BILL: AMEN. 26:07 >>PASTOR PALMER: AMEN. 26:14 >>BILL: YOU KNOW, IF KINDNESS IS ONE OF THE 26:14 ATTRIBUTES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE 26:18 HOLY SPIRIT WORKING OUT IN YOUR LIFE, THEN ONE OF THE 26:21 RESOURCES THAT CAN HELP YOU IS A LITTLE BOOKLET 26:22 CALLED, "THE POWER OF KINDNESS". WE'D LIKE TO 26:26 SEND IT TO YOU AS A GIFT HERE IS THE INFORMATION 26:30 YOU NEED TO RECEIVE YOUR FREE COPY. 27:32 >>BILL: GENTLEMEN, WE'VE COME TO THE END OF ANOTHER 27:33 PROGRAM. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE WITH US. 27:35 >>PASTOR PALMER: THANK YOU. >>BILL: AND TO OUR 27:38 FAITHFUL VIEWERS, I APPRECIATE YOUR BEING WITH 27:39 US, ALSO, EACH AND EVERY WEEK. REMEMBER 27:43 TO VISIT THE WEBSITE, ITISWRITTENCANADA.CA. ON 27:47 THE WEBSITE YOU CAN PRE-ORDER A DVD OF THIS 27:48 COMPLETE SERIES. WHEN WE COME TO THE END OF IT 27:53 WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON DVD, WE'D LOVE TO SEND IT 27:55 TO YOU FOR A DONATION OF $40.00. YOUR $40.00 WILL 27:56 HELP KEEP THIS MINISTRY ON THE AIR HERE IN CANADA. 28:00 YOU CAN ALSO SEND A PRAYER REQUEST, YOU CAN FIND OUT 28:05 WHERE OUR IT IS WRITTEN TEAM IS APPEARING, 28:06 ITISIWRITTENCANADA.CA. IF THE GOOD LORD IS WILLING 28:10 WE WILL ALL BE BACK AGAIN NEXT WEEK. I HOPE YOU WILL 28:18 JOIN US. UNTIL THEN, REMEMBER, IT IS WRITTEN; 28:19 MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE BUT BY 28:23 EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD. |
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