Participants: Bill Santos (Host), Pr. Omar Palmer, Pr. Mark Johnson
Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC201117
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00:02 >>BILL: LONG AGO A MAN SOUGHT THE PERFECT PICTURE
00:03 OF PEACE. NOT FINDING ONE THAT SATISFIED, 00:06 HE ANNOUNCED A CONTEST TO PRODUCE THIS MASTERPIECE. 00:11 THE CHALLENGE STIRRED THE IMAGINATION OF ARTISTS 00:12 EVERYWHERE, AND PAINTINGS ARRIVED FROM FAR AND WIDE. 00:16 FINALLY THE GREAT DAY OF REVELATION ARRIVED. THE 00:21 JUDGES UNCOVERED ONE PEACEFUL SCENE AFTER 00:22 ANOTHER, WHILE THE VIEWERS CLAPPED AND CHEERED. THE 00:26 TENSIONS GREW. ONLY TWO PICTURES REMAINED VEILED. 00:32 AS A JUDGE PULLED THE COVER FROM ONE, A HUSH 00:33 FELL OVER THE CROWD. A MIRROR-SMOOTH LAKE 00:37 REFLECTED LACY, GREEN BIRCHES UNDER THE SOFT 00:42 BLUSH OF THE EVENING SKY. 00:42 ALONG THE GRASSY SHORE, A FLOCK OF SHEEP GRAZED 00:47 UNDISTURBED. SURELY THIS WAS THE WINNER. THE MAN 00:48 WITH THE VISION UNCOVERED THE SECOND PAINTING 00:53 HIMSELF, AND THE CROWD GASPED IN SURPRISE. COULD 00:59 THIS BE PEACE? 01:05 (MUSIC) 01:15 >>ANNOUNCER: IT HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME. 01:18 GOD'S BOOK, THE BIBLE. 01:21 STILL RELEVANT IN TODAY'S COMPLEX WORLD. 01:26 IT IS WRITTEN. 01:27 SHARING MESSAGES OF HOPE AROUND THE WORLD. 01:33 (MUSIC) 01:48 THE PAINTING WAS OF A TUMULTUOUS WATERFALL THAT 01:49 CASCADED DOWN A ROCKY PRECIPICE; THE CROWD 01:52 COULD ALMOST FEEL ITS COLD, PENETRATING SPRAY. 01:57 STORMY-GRAY CLOUDS THREATENED TO EXPLODE WITH 01:58 LIGHTNING, WIND AND RAIN. 02:03 IN THE MIDST OF THE THUNDERING NOISES AND 02:04 BITTER CHILL, A SPINDLY TREE CLUNG TO THE ROCKS AT 02:08 THE EDGE OF THE FALLS. ONE OF ITS BRANCHES REACHED 02:13 OUT TORRENTIAL WATERS AS 02:14 IF FOOLISHLY SEEKING TO EXPERIENCE ITS FULL POWER. 02:17 A LITTLE BIRD HAD BUILT A NEST IN THE ELBOW OF THAT 02:23 BRANCH. CONTENT AND UNDISTURBED IN HER STORMY 02:24 SURROUNDINGS, SHE RESTED ON HER EGGS. WITH HER EYES 02:28 CLOSED AND HER WINGS READY TO COVER HER LITTLE ONES, 02:31 SHE MANIFESTED PEACE THAT TRANSCENDS ALL EARTHLY 02:32 TURMOIL. JESUS SAID, 02:46 YOU SEE, THE PEACE JESUS GIVES DOES NOT WORK IN A 02:47 VACUUM. NEITHER IS IT THE CALM AFTER A STORM. THE 02:53 PEACE JESUS GIVES IS A CALM AND QUIETNESS OF 02:56 HEART IN THE MIDST OF A STORM! IT IS A PEACE 02:56 THE WORLD CANNOT GIVE. 03:11 WELL, WE ARE CONTINUING ON OUR STUDY OF THE FRUIT 03:12 OF THE SPIRIT WITH OUR TWO GUESTS AND TODAY'S PROGRAM 03:15 LEADS US INTO THE STUDY OF PEACE. GENTLEMEN, WELCOME 03:21 TO THE "IT IS WRITTEN" PROGRAM. JOINING ME IS 03:22 PASTOR OMAR PALMER AND PASTOR MARK JOHNSON. LET 03:26 ME WELCOME BOTH OF YOU LET ME ALSO WELCOME OUR 03:30 FAITHFUL VIEWERS THAT TUNE IN EACH AND EVERY WEEK 03:31 PASTOR PALMER.>>PASTOR PALMER: YES. >>BILL: THIS 03:35 IS NOT YOUR FIRST TIME HERE WITH US. YOU'VE BEEN 03:36 WITH US BEFORE HERE. 03:37 WELCOME BACK. >>PASTOR PALMER: THANK YOU SO MUCH. 03:39 IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK. 03:39 >>BILL: IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU. NOW, TELL US A LITTLE 03:41 BIT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR CHURCH. WHERE YOU PASTOR, 03:42 IF THERE'S A WEBSITE FOLKS CAN CHECK YOU GUYS OUT. 03:45 >>PASTOR PALMER: BE HAPPY TO SAY THAT IT'S GOOD TO 03:48 BE BACK HERE AT "IT IS WRITTEN". THE CHURCH THAT 03:49 I SERVE IS MEADOWVALE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST 03:53 CHURCH WHICH IS IN MISSISSAUGA. I LIKE TO 03:55 JOKE THAT IT'S A CHURCH ABOUT MISSISSAUGA SINCE 03:56 MISSISSAUGA CHURCH IS THE BIGGER CHURCH. WE'RE A 04:00 VERY COMMUNITY ORIENTED, WARM FELLOWSHIP. WE 04:05 WELCOME, JUST ABOUT, EVERYBODY EVERYTIME WE 04:06 HAVE WORSHIP SERVICES. OUR WEBSITE 04:09 IS WWW.MEADOWVALE.ORG. WE TAKE OVER THE WHOLE CITY. 04:14 >>BILL: THAT'S WONDERFUL. PASTOR MARK 04:15 JOHNSON, PRESIDENT OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST 04:19 CHURCH IN CANADA, I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR FIRST 04:23 TIME WITH US. >>PASTOR JOHNSON: IT IS. IT IS. 04:24 >>BILL: SHARE WITH OUR VIEWERS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 04:25 YOU AND THE FINE WORK YOU DO LEADING OUT THE 04:30 ADVENTIST CHURCH HERE IN CANADA. >>PASTOR MARK: 04:31 WELL, IT'S JOY TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE 04:33 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH IN CANADA. A VERY 04:38 LARGE TERRITORY THAT WE COVER AND, YOU KNOW, FROM 04:39 EAST TO WEST AND I GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT 04:43 WITH MANY, MANY WONDERFUL PEOPLE HERE AND THERE AND 04:47 TO BE A PART OF MANY EXCITING THINGS THAT 04:48 THE ADVENTIST CHURCH IS INVOLVED IN. ADVENTIST 04:52 EDUCATION, CHRISTIAN EDUCATION FOR PEOPLE ALL 04:55 THE WAY FROM KINDERGARTEN THROUGH UNIVERSITY AND TO 04:56 THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE HEALTH SERVICES AND 05:01 VARIOUS THINGS ALONG WITH OUR REGULAR CHURCH 05:07 PROGRAMS AND SO ON THAT WE HAVE. IT'S A BIG, IT'S 05:09 A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH PEOPLE HOW CHRIST 05:14 WOULD HAVE INTERSECTED WITH THEIR LIVES IF HE 05:18 WERE PRESENT WITH US TODAY. >>BILL: WELL, IT'S 05:19 A HUGE UNDERTAKING. I KNOW THE LORD HAS BEEN USING 05:23 YOU AND WILL CONTINUE TO USE YOU AS YOU LEAD THE 05:29 CHURCH, THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH HERE IN 05:30 CANADA. WELL, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PEACE. 05:33 PAUL SAYS THAT'S ONE OF THE OUTWORKINGS, RIGHT; OF 05:40 THE EXTERNAL MANIFESTATIONS OF THE 05:41 SPIRITS WORK INSIDE THE LIFE THAT - PEACE. WHEN 05:44 I THINK OF PEACE A COUPLE OF THINGS COME TO MIND. I 05:48 THINK, PROBABLY FIRST AND FOREMOST, OF THE PEACE 05:49 SIGN, RIGHT? >>PASTOR JOHNSON & PASTOR PALMER: 05:53 YES. >>BILL: HAVING GROWN UP - NOW, PASTOR PALMER IS 05:56 PROBABLY TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER THOSE.>>PASTOR 05:57 PALMER: PROBABLY, YEAH. 05:59 >>BILL:.THOSE PEACE MOVEMENTS AND I WAS YOUNG 05:59 BUT I REMEMBER THOSE. I THINK OF PEACE, I THINK OF 06:02 HENRY KISSINGER FOR SOME REASON, I THINK OF - WAS 06:08 IT ANWAR SADAT? MANAKAN BAY AND SHAKING HANDS BUT 06:09 - I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON LIMB HERE PASTOR, I DON'T 06:12 THINK THAT THAT'S A PEACE THAT PAUL'S REFERRING TO 06:17 HERE BECAUSE THAT PEACE IS NOT ENDURING. >>PASTOR 06:18 JOHNSON: NO. >>PASTOR PALMER: CERTAINLY. >>BILL: 06:24 IT HAS NOT, YOU KNOW, THE PEACE MOVEMENT, OF THE 06:29 HIPPIES MOVEMENT.>>PASTOR JOHNSON: RIGHT. >>BILL: 06:30 MEAN IN THE MIDST OF THE TURMOIL OF THE VIETNAM 06:32 WAR, THE ARAB-ISRAELI CONFLICT, THOSE ARE ALL 06:35 ON-GOING. AND SO, WHEN JESUS SAID, LISTEN, THE 06:36 PEACE THAT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU IS NOT THE 06:41 PEACE THE WORLD CAN DO. 06:41 THE WORLD'S PEACE IS NOT ENDURING. WHAT IS 06:44 PAUL SPEAKING ABOUT HERE >>PASTOR PALMER: WELL, YOU 06:48 SEE, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR PASSAGE AND 06:49 PEACE THERE OF ITSELF, OF THE 18 VICES AND THE 06:53 9 VIRTUES, FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT. PEACE JUMPS OUT AT 07:00 ME BECAUSE, ESPECIALLY NOW IN A WORLD THAT WE 07:01 LIVE IN, IT SEEMS THAT EVERYBODY IS SEEKING AN 07:04 ANSWER TO PEACE. >>BILL: TRUE. >>PASTOR PALMER: IT 07:08 SEEMS THAT EVERYWHERE YOU TURN THERE'S WAR. THERE'S 07:09 WAR IN HOMES, THERE'S WAR IN THE WORLD REALLY, 07:12 EVERY NATION, NATIONS AGAINST NATIONS. AND I WAS 07:15 REMINDED IN SCRIPTURE THAT WAR, ACTUALLY, BEGAN 07:16 NOT HERE ON EARTH BUT IT STARTED IN HEAVEN. AND 07:23 THE DEVIL BROUGHT WAR HERE ON EARTH. AND FROM THAT 07:27 MOMENT, HENCEFORTH, SEEMS FOREVER UNTIL JESUS COMES, 07:28 IT SEEMS WE'RE AT WAR. AND THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO 07:32 ARE TRYING TO FIND PEACE AND THEIR WAY OF FINDING 07:35 PEACE IS JUST NOT TO HAVE WAR BUT I'VE REALIZED THAT 07:36 PEACE IS MERELY NOT JUST THE ABSENCE OF WAR. 07:40 SOMEONE SAID IT'S THE ABILITY TO COPE WITH WAR. 07:45 AND TO HAVE THAT INNER PEACE THAT PASSES ALL 07:46 UNDERSTANDING. >>BILL: YEAH, IN THE OPENER I 07:48 TALKED ABOUT THE PAINTING, THE WATERFALL THERE AND 07:53 THE LITTLE BIRD, AND SO BEING ABLE TO BE PEACEFUL, 07:54 AT PEACE WHILE ALL AROUND YOU THERE'S TURMOIL AND 08:00 ANGUISH AND SUFFERING >>PASTOR JOHNSON: IT'S 08:05 TRUE. IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT WHEN WE THINK 08:06 IN TERMS OF PEACE AND, AS PASTOR PALMER HAS 08:09 MENTIONED, IN THE LARGER SENSE OF THE PASSAGE YOU 08:15 HAVE WAR ON THE ONE HAND AND PEACE AND OPPOSITION 08:16 TO THAT IN A SENSE. THAT REALLY, THAT'S, KIND 08:21 OF, HOW WE DEFINE PEACE, ISNT' IT? AN ABSENSE OF 08:27 CONFLICT, AN ABSENSE OF THINGS THAT UPSET US. IT'S 08:28 INTERESTING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT SOME OF 08:32 MY EXPERIENCES WHEN I SERVED AS A PASTOR OF 08:36 CONGREGATIONS. THERE WAS A PERSON I KNEW, IN 08:37 PARTICULAR, WHO FREQUENTLY WOULD CALL ME UP IN A 08:41 TIME OF CRISIS AND WANT TO TALK THROUGH THAT KIND OF 08:46 CRISIS. AND I REMEMBER THINKING AT THE TIME THAT 08:47 ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT FACE US IS THAT WE CAN BE 08:53 IN A STATE OF PEACE WITHIN OURSELVES AND WITHIN THE 09:00 FRAMEWORK OF GOD'S CARE FOR US, REGARDLESS OF 09:01 WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US. 09:03 IT MAY NOT SEEM SO PEACEFUL ON THE OUTSIDE 09:04 BUT IF WE HAVE THAT INNER SENSE OF PEACE, WHICH IS 09:08 WHERE IT REALLY HAS TO SPRING FROM WE'VE GOT, 09:12 WE'VE GOT IT. >>BILL: YES, JESUS SLEEPING ON THE BOAT 09:13 WHILE THE STORM IS ALL AROUND, RIGHT? THE PEACE, 09:17 RIGHT? THAT CONFIDENCE, A ASSURANCE, RIGHT? >>PASTOR 09:21 PALMER: A LEVEL OF TRANQUILITY. >>BILL: 09:22 TRANQUILITY. >>PASTOR PALMER: YOU HAVE 09:26 TO HAVE THAT - IT'S A CONSCIENCENESS THAT DOES 09:28 NOT COME FROM EARTHLY ACTIVITIES BUT IT'S 09:29 SOMETHING HEAVENLY. IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN JUST 09:33 GET UP AND SAY, I AM AT PEACE. IT'S SOMETHING YOU 09:37 HAVE TO HAVE WITH GOD. IN EFFECT, THE WORD PEACE IN 09:38 ITS ORIGINAL SENSE, IN THE GREEK CONTEXT, DOES MEAN, 09:43 MEANS BIND TOGETHER, IN OUR WORDS. SO UNTIL WE ALL 09:50 COME TOGETHER AND UNDERSTAND WHERE EACH 09:51 OTHER IS COMING FROM, RESPECTING OUR OWN 09:54 PERSONAL PLACE AND SPACE, NOTING WHERE WE'RE COMING 10:00 FROM, OUR STRENGTHS AND OUR STRUGGLES, OUR 10:01 UPBRINGING AND WHERE WE'RE ALL GOING. UNTIL WE'RE 10:03 ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT WE WILL ALWAYS BE AT WAR. 10:07 EVEN WITH OUR OWN SELVES. 10:07 >>BILL: SO, PEACE IN THE ORIGINAL MEANING MEANS 10:10 BINDING TOGETHER.>>PASTOR PALMER: BINDING TOGETHER. 10:11 >>BILL:.IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE PAUL THROUGHOUT, 10:13 YOU KNOW, THESE SIX CHAPTERS HERE IN GALATIONS 10:17 HAS BEEN, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT HE'S BEEN 10:17 TRYING TO RE-ENFORCE IS THAT WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME 10:20 BOAT WHETHER WE ARE JEWS OR GENTILES, RIGHT? WE'RE 10:25 ALL TOGETHER. WE ALL GOT TO, WE ALL NEED TO COME 10:26 TOGETHER. THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE ON 10:31 THAT, ON PEACE. >>PASTOR PALMER: YEAH. >>BILL: ALL 10:35 OF US COMING TOGETHER. 10:35 >>PASTOR PALMER: AND AS YOU MENTIONED THAT, 10:37 RECENTLY I WAS AT A PEACE SYMPOSIUM AT A SECONDARY 10:38 SCHOOL THERE, CLOSE TO MY CHURCH IN MEADOWVALE. AND 10:42 WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM DIFFERENT FAITHS. WE 10:46 HAD A MUSLUM, WE HAD A SIEK, HINDU, A BUDDIST, 10:47 AND I WAS REPRESENTING CHRISTIANITY. AND AT THE 10:51 END OF IT, WHAT WE ALL GOT FROM IT IS THAT UNTIL WE 10:55 ALL UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER, RESPECT EACH OTHER AND 10:56 EVEN COME TOGETHER AND SEE THAT WE'RE ALL ONE IN THE 11:01 SIGHT OF GOD WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THIS 11:05 ELUSIVE PEACE THAT THE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT 11:06 >>PASTOR PALMER: WE KNOW, AS WELL, AS CHRISTIANS, 11:10 AND I'VE HAD THAT FEELING THAT AS CHRISTIANS WE CAN 11:14 HAVE THAT PEACE NOW, THROUGH JESUS CHRIST 11:15 >>BILL: SO THIS IS NOT ONLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN 11:19 LOOK FORWARD TO HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE? >>PASTOR 11:21 PALMER: OH NO. WE CAN EXPERIENCE THAT PEACE 11:22 RIGHT NOW. >>BILL: WE CAN EXPERIENCE THAT PEACE 11:24 RIGHT NOW. OKAY, HOW? 11:25 >>PASTOR JOHNSON: YEAH. BY VIRTUE OF THAT 11:30 RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU HAVE WITH JESUS CHRIST, 11:31 INVITING HIM INTO YOUR LIFE AND ALLOW HIM TO LEAD 11:32 YOU BECAUSE NATURALLY OUR OWN HUMAN TENDENCIES TEND 11:35 TO LEAD US TO WAR. WHEN A CHILD IS BORN THAT CHILD 11:39 IS BORN FIGHTING. 11:39 YOU'RE BORN NATURALLY BENT TOWARDS THAT. YOUR 11:45 PREPENSITORY IS TOWARD THAT. SO IT HAS TO BE AN 11:46 ADJUST MENT MADE NOT IN HUMAN TERMS BUT BY GOD 11:51 HIMSELF. WHEN YOU GIVE HIM YOUR ALL AND TURN YOUR ALL 11:55 OVER TO HIM HE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO GUIDE YOU IN A 11:56 PEACEFUL MANNER. >>PASTOR JOHNSON: IT'S INTERESTING 11:59 TO ME THAT PEACE CAN BE IN ONE OF TWO CONTEXTS. 12:02 PERSONAL PEACE, WHICH I THINK COMES FROM A 12:03 SENSE, AN INNER SENSE OF WELL-BEING AND THEN 12:10 THERE IS A PEACE WHICH IS A COLLECTIVE PEACE AND 12:15 THAT'S WHAT WE THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT 12:16 THE STATE OF PEACE IN THE WORLD.>>BILL: RIGHT. 12:19 >>PASTOR JOHNSON:.OR IN THE COMMUNITY. >>BILL: 12:22 RIGHT. >>PASTOR JOHNSON: AND I THINK IT'S VERY 12:23 INTERESTING TO ME THAT IN MY PASTORAL WORK OVER THE 12:26 YEARS, HAVING PASTORED IN A LOT OF LARGE CITY 12:33 ENVIRONMENTS AS PASTOR PALMER IS NOW, THAT THERE 12:34 IS THIS SENSE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 12:39 PEACE IN A COMMUNITY THERE HAS TO BE PEACE WITHIN THE 12:44 INDIVIDUALS WHO MAKE UP THAT COMMUNITY OTHERWISE 12:45 THERE'S GOING TO BE A HUGE STRUGGLE ALL THE TIME AND 12:49 YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IT. SO THE QUESTION THAT I 12:54 THINK BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT TO EACH ONE OF 12:55 US IS THE ONE THAT YOU POSED, BILL, WHICH IS HOW 12:59 DO WE THEN ACQUIRE THAT PEACE? AND IT IS THAT 13:03 CONTEXT OF BEING CLOSE WITH CHRIST, UNDERSTANDING 13:04 HOW CHRIST DESIGNED ME TO BE. BECAUSE IF I'M NOT IN 13:09 HARMONY WITH HOW CHRIST WANTED ME TO BE, I CAN'T 13:13 BE AT PEACE BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO BE SOMETHING 13:14 THAT I AM NOT. >>BILL: YEAH. AND IN THAT, IN 13:17 THAT COMING TOGETHER WITH CHRIST, THAT BINDING WITH 13:23 CHRIST, THAT RELATIONSHIP DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN 13:24 THAT THE PROBLEMS DON'T COME. I MEAN, THE KNOCK 13:28 AGAINST CHRISTIANS SOMETIMES.>>PASTOR 13:31 JOHNSON: SURE. >>BILL:.YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, YOU 13:32 LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD. 13:34 LISTEN, I HAVE A MORTGAGE TO PAY, LIKE OTHER PEOPLE 13:35 HAVE A MORTGAGE. I LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS 13:40 AND, YOU KNOW, I SEE WHAT EVERYBODY SEES AND I KNOW, 13:48 I SEE THE GAS PRICES GOING UP AND I KNOW IT COSTS 13:49 ME MORE TO FILL UP MY TANK LIKE IT DOES.>>PASTOR 13:54 JOHNSON: SURE. 13:54 >>BILL:.EVERYBODY ELSE. 13:56 IT'S NOT THAT THE PROBLEMS DON'T EXIST OR WE DON'T 13:57 RECOGNIZE ISSUES, IT'S REALLY, TO ME IT'S HOW AS 14:03 A CHRISTIAN DO I DEAL WITH THAT, THAT REALLY BRINGS 14:09 ME, YOU KNOW, BRINGS ME THE PEACE. THAT ABSENCE OF 14:10 STRESS OR THAT ABSENCE OF ANXIETY, KNOWING THAT 14:17 I'M A CHILD OF GOD AND EVENTHOUGH EVERYTHING 14:21 AROUND ME MAY APPEAR THAT IT IS OUT OF CONTROL, THAT 14:22 I BELIEVE THAT MY HEAVENLY FATHER, STILL, IS IN 14:28 CONTROL. >>PASTOR JOHNSON: AND THAT IS THE KEY. 14:31 >>BILL: WHAT IS HAPPENING, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN 14:33 MY LIFE AND ALL AROUND US? 14:34 >>PASTOR JOHNSON: ISN'T THAT THE KEY THOUGH 14:35 >>BILL: IT IS TO ME. I THINK, YEAH. >>PASTOR 14:36 JOHNSON: NOW YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE AN AWARENESS THERE'S 14:38 SOMEBODY THERE WHO'S INTERESTED IN YOU, WHO 14:39 REALLY CARES FOR YOU MORE THAN YOU CARE FOR 14:44 YOURSELF, WHICH FOR MOST OF US IS QUITE A BIT AND 14:47 THE REALITY IS THAT GOD IS INTERESTED. HE'S AN ACTIVE 14:48 PARTNER IN LIFE. AND SO, EVEN WHEN THINGS ARE 14:53 FALLING APART, I MEAN, I MIGHT LOSE MY JOB, I MIGHT 14:58 HAVE A RELATIONAL ISSUE, WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES 14:59 MAY BE THE REALITY IS THAT A LOT OF THESE LITTLE 15:03 THINGS THAT UPSET OUR PEACE, IN THE BIG PICTURE 15:08 ARE NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT. 15:08 >>PASTOR PALMER: THAT'S TRUE. >>PASTOR JOHNSON: 15:12 BECAUSE HE QUESTION FOR ME AS A HUMAN BEING IS 15:13 WHERE'S THE TRAJECTORY THAT I'M HEADED? AM I 15:17 HEADED TOWARD THE KINGDOM OF GOD AS GOD HAS PROMISED 15:20 AND INVITED ME TO OR IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THAT 15:21 AND TO ME THAT'S THE BIG, THE BIG ISSUE. >>PASTOR 15:26 PALMER: YOU SEE AND TO YOUR POINT MARK, YOU SEE 15:31 PEACE IS SOMETHING THAT TRANSCENDS WHAT WE CALL, 15:32 HUMAN SELFISHNESS. IF YOU HAVE THAT INNER PEACE THAT 15:39 COMES FROM A UNION WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, YOU HAVE 15:43 TO BE FIRST JOINED WITH HIM. AND JOINING WITH HIM 15:44 YOU'RE ABLE THEN TO JOIN WITH OTHERS. AND THEN YOU 15:49 HAVE THAT BINDING WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT FOR PEACE TO 15:51 OCCUR. >>BILL: RIGHT. 15:52 >>PASTOR PALMER: THE ONLY REASON TO GET TO THAT 15:54 LEVEL IS TO REMOVE THAT LEVEL OR ELEMENT OF 15:56 SELFISHNESS. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE NOT, WHEN YOU'RE 15:58 SELFLESS YOU RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, I 16:02 HAVE TO LOOK AT MY BROTHER. I HAVE TO TAKE 16:03 CARE OF MY SISTER. I HAVE TO BE THERE FOR SOMEBODY 16:06 ELSE. YOU HAVE THAT SENSE OF FUFILLMENT WITHIN FROM 16:10 HAVING BEEN THERE AND JOINED TOGETHER WITH 16:11 SOMEONE ELSE AT A LEVEL OF ?. >>BILL: YEAH, THAT'S 16:15 - I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I THINK 16:19 SOMETIMES FOR CHRISTIANS THAT WE WRESTLE 16:20 WITH >>PASTOR PALMER: CERTAINLY. >>BILL: 16:23 THAT WE, AGAIN, GAIN AN INTELLECTUAL UNDERSTANDING 16:26 OF THEOLOGY BUT IN THE PRACTICE, RIGHT? AND, 16:27 BILLY GRAHAM, I THINK, ONCE SAID CHRISTIANS 16:35 HAVE A PREJUDICE AGAINST THE PRACTICAL. >>PASTOR 16:39 PALMER: OF COURSE, AND THAT'S TRUE. >>BILL: 16:40 ALRIGHT. >>PASTOR JOHNSON: AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S KIND 16:42 OF INTERESTING IS THAT I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHERE 16:45 WE ARE IN TERMS OF RELIGION AND SO ON, 16:45 EVERYBODY WANTS PEACE. 16:49 >>BILL: YES. >>PASTOR JOHNSON: IF YOU AND I 16:50 WANTED TO BE INCREDIBLY WEALTHY OVERNIGHT ALL WE'D 16:53 HAVE TO DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW TO PACKAGE PEACE AND 16:57 GET IT INTO WALMART OR INTO CANADIAN TIRE OR SOME 16:58 PLACE AND IT WOULD FLY OFF THE SHELVES BECAUSE 17:03 EVERYBODY WANTS IT. BUT IT IS VERY ELUSIVE FOR MANY 17:07 PEOPLE, ISN'T IT? >>BILL: YES. ABSOLUTELY IT IS. 17:08 >>PASTOR PALMER: YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ONCE SAID THAT 17:11 WHEN THE POWER OF LOVE OVERCOMES THE LOVE OF 17:18 POWER WE WILL ACCOMPLISH PEACE. YOU SEE, A LOT OF 17:19 US AND I SPOKE ABOUT THE SELFISHNESS A WHILE AGO, 17:23 THE REASON WE HAVE WARS IN THIS WORLD, IN THE 17:28 PHYSICAL NATURE, IN THE PHYSICAL REALM, THE REASON 17:29 WE FIGHT AGAINST OUR OWN SELVES EVEN, IS FOR THE 17:32 MERE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT LOVE. BECAUSE IF 17:36 YOU HAVE THE LOVE FOR YOUR BROTHER, THE LOVE FOR 17:37 YOUR SISTER, THE LOVE FOR YOURSELF, YOU'LL RESPECT 17:41 YOURSELF AND TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. 17:44 >>BILL: AND I THINK, AGAIN, IT REINFORCES THIS 17:45 POINT THAT PAUL CALLS THIS 'FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT'. 17:47 >>PASTOR PALMER: YES. 17:48 >>BILL: THAT, AS PASTOR PALMER AS YOU POINTED OUT, 17:50 THE LOVE BEING THE FIRST ONE HERE ON THE LIST THAT 17:55 LOVE, I MEAN YOU CAN'T HAVE PEACE WITHOUT 17:56 LOVING.>>PASTOR PALMER: OF COURSE. >>BILL:.YOUR 18:01 FELLOW MAN. I THINK THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF 18:03 CONTENTMENT HERE. >>PASTOR PALMER: CERTAINLY. >>BILL: 18:04 BEING CONTENT. I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, THE LACK 18:06 OF PEACE OR WHAT I WOULD CALL ANXIETY IS CREATED 18:09 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT, WE COVET WHAT, YOU 18:10 KNOW, OUR NEIGHBOUR HAS. 18:16 HEY, MY NEIGHBOUR'S GOT THAT BRAND NEW CAR, WHY 18:17 DON'T I HAVE THE BRAND NEW CAR. OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT 18:19 MAKING ENOUGH MONEY; I'M NOT WORKING HARD ENOUGH; 18:23 I'M DOING SOMETHING WRONG; I'M NOT INVESTING RIGHT 18:24 >>PASTOR PALMER: YEAH. 18:24 >>BILL: YOU KNOW, AND THAT BEGINS TO CREATE 18:27 THAT.>>PASTOR JOHNSON: SURE. >>BILL:.ANXIETY BUT 18:29 IF WE, IF WE'RE CONTENT WITH WHAT, WHERE WE ARE IN 18:34 LIFE AND THAT'S NOT A CALMING, IT'S NOT TO SAY 18:35 WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GOALS AND WE SHOULDN'T 18:37 ASPIRE.>>PASTOR JOHNSON SURE. >>BILL:.YOU KNOW 18:39 WE'RE CONTENT AND I LOVE AND I CAN CELEBRATE 18:40 MY NEIGHBOUR'S SUCCESS, RIGHT? AND APPRECIATE 18:44 THAT AND HAVE JOY AND LOVE THAT, THAT'S PART OF WHAT 18:50 BRINGS THAT TRANQUILITY TO OUR LIVES, RIGHT? >>PASTOR 18:51 JOHNSON: YEAH. AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING, 18:55 BILL, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IT MAKES ME 18:56 THINK ABOUT WHEN I REFLECT ON SOMETHING THAT I WOULD 18:57 CONSIDER PEACE I THINK USUALLY OF SIMPLIER TIMES. 19:05 WHEN I WAS A CHILD I KNEW THAT MY PARENTS WERE GOING 19:11 TO TAKE CARE OF MY NEEDS, I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY 19:12 ABOUT GETTING OUT THERE AND FILLING THE GAS TANK 19:17 LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, OR MAKING SURE THAT THIS OR 19:21 THAT OR WHATEVER. AND I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT 19:22 THAT THE OTHER DAY, I SAW A CHILD.>>BILL: 19:25 YOU'RE RIGHT. >>PASTOR JOHNSON:.WALKING ALONG 19:28 WITH MOM OR DAD AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, 19:29 WOW, WHAT A, IN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, WHAT A LEVEL 19:32 OF PEACE THERE IS THERE NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT 19:37 STUFF. KNOWING IT'S TAKEN CARE OF. >>BILL: YOU'RE 19:38 ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT 19:40 POINT. I SAY TO MY WIFE SOMETIMES I WONDER HOW 19:43 MUCH TIME MY KIDS SPEND WORRYING ABOUT IF WHEN 19:44 THEY FLICK THE SWITCH THE POWER'S GOING TO COME 19:49 ON.>>PASTOR PALMER: RIGHT. 19:50 >>BILL:.THE LIGHT'S GOING TO COME ON. >>PASTOR 19:52 PALMER: THEY NEVER THINK ABOUT IT. >>BILL: THEY 19:53 NEVER THINK ABOUT IT. WHY? 19:54 BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MOM AND A DAD WHO THINKS ABOUT 19:56 THAT.>>PASTOR JOHNSON: THAT'S RIGHT. >>BILL:.WHO 19:57 LOOKS AFTER THAT? WE HAVE A LOVING, HEAVENLY 19:59 FATHER WHO LOOKS AFTER US PASTOR, WE'RE COMING DOWN 20:03 TO THE END. WE'VE GOT ABOUT A COUPLE MINUTES 20:04 SOME CLOSING THOUGHTS, MAYBE, THAT YOU HAVE, 20:06 SHARE WITH FOLKS, I MEAN, PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING 20:12 FOR THAT PEACE RIGHT NOW. >>PASTOR PALMER: YOU 20:13 SEE, IN ABOUT 2002 THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST 20:17 CHURCH MADE A STATEMENT ON PEACE. THE CHURCH SAID 20:20 THAT THERE ARE FOUR ELEMENTS THAT ARE CRITICAL 20:21 TO PEACE; ONE IS DIALOGUE, NUMBER TWO IS JUSTICE, 20:26 NUMBER THREE FORGIVENESS, AND NUMBER FOUR 20:30 RECONCILIATION. WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND EVEN WITH THE 20:31 FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT IT IS CRITICAL THAT 20:36 WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED. YOU CAN'T 20:39 HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. AND SO IN ORDER FOR 20:40 YOU TO GET PEACE YOU MUST SHOW LOVE AND THAT COMES 20:44 FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT'S PRESENCE IN YOUR LIFE. IF 20:48 YOU INVITE HIM IN AND ACCEPT HIM, HE WILL COME 20:49 IN. AND YOU CAN FIND AND HAVE THAT TRUE PEACE 20:54 THAT THE WORLD CRAVES BUT IT'S ONLY FOUND IN JESUS 20:56 CHRIST. >>BILL: THE PEACE THAT I GIVE YOU JESUS, 20:57 THAT'S THE ONE, THAT'S THE ONE WE NEED. YOU KNOW, 21:01 IN 1555, NICHOLAS RIDLEY WAS BURNED AT THE STAKE 21:09 BECAUSE OF HIS WITNESS FOR CHRIST. ON THE NIGHT 21:10 BEFORE RIDLEY'S EXECUTION HIS BROTHER OFFERED TO 21:16 REMAIN WITH HIM IN THAT PRISON CHAMBER TO BE OF 21:21 ASSISTANCE AND OF COMFORT TO HIM. RIDLEY DECLINED 21:22 THE OFFER AND REPLIED THAT HE MEANT TO GO TO BED 21:26 AND SLEEP AS QUIETLY AS HE EVER DID IN HIS LIFE 21:32 BECAUSE HE KNEW THE PEACE OF GOD. HE KNEW HE COULD 21:33 REST IN THE STRENGTH OF THE EVERLASTING ARMS OF 21:37 HIS LORD AND THAT HIS LORD WOULD MEET ALL HIS NEEDS. 21:44 AND YOU KNOW WHAT, SO CAN WE. PASTOR PALMER, WOULD 21:45 YOU PLEASE PRAY WITH OUR VIEWERS. >>PASTOR PALMER: 21:49 LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE SO 21:52 THANKFUL, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE PROMISES YOU HAVE 21:53 GIVEN US IN YOUR WORD. WE THANK YOU FOR THE FACT 21:58 THAT WE CAN FIND PEACE IN YOU. I PRAY LORD FOR OUR 22:03 VIEWERS. I PRAY FOR THE TELECAST, MAY IT CONTINUE 22:04 TO BLESS. MAY IT CONTINUE TO DIRECT. AND MAY MOST 22:07 OF ALL LORD YOU GRANT US THAT PEACE THAT PASSES ALL 22:12 UNDERSTANDING. IN YOUR SON'S NAME WE PRAY. 22:13 AMEN >>BILL: AMEN. 22:19 (MUSIC) 22:36 (MUSIC) 22:52 >>BEV: HI EVERYONE! ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE 22:53 WHO SPRINKLES ADDITIONAL SALT ON THEIR FOOD BEFORE 22:56 EVEN TASTING IT? FOR VARIOUS HEALTH REASONS, 22:59 IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF SALT - AND 23:00 THUS SODIUM - WE CONSUME EVERY DAY. SODIUM IS A 23:07 PART OF SALT, BUT IT'S ALSO FOUND NATURALLY IN 23:10 VEGETABLES AND FRUITS. 23:10 SODIUM IS A SUBSTANCE OUR BODIES NEED FOR OPTIMAL 23:14 PERFORMANCE. AMONG OTHER THINGS, IT'S NEEDED TO 23:15 MAINTAIN BLOOD PRESSURE AND FLUID LEVELS IN 23:20 OUR BODIES. BUT MOST OF US CONSUME WAY TOO MANY SALTY 23:25 FOODS AND THE INCREASED SODIUM WREAKS HAVOC IN OUR 23:26 BODIES. ON A DAILY BASIS WE NEED LESS THAN HALF 23:32 A GRAM OR ONE-FIFTH OF A TEASPOON OF SALT TO GET 23:37 ALL THE SODIUM OUR BODIES REQUIRE. HOWEVER, MOST 23:38 NORTH AMERICANS CONSUME 10 TO 20 TIMES MORE SALT THAN 23:43 WE ACTUALLY NEED. HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND HEART 23:49 FAILURE ARE JUST TWO OF THE UNFORTUNATE RESULTS OF 23:50 EVERY DAY EATING THAT IS HIGH IN SODIUM. SOME 23:54 OF OUR FAVOURITE FOODS ARE LOADED WITH SODIUM. 23:58 CONSIDER THESE: SEVEN OUNCES OF POTATO CHIPS HAS 23:59 ñ3500MG OF SODIUM. HALF A CUP OF TOMATO SAUCE HAS 24:06 ñ1950MG OF SODIUM. TWO SLICES OF REGULAR CHEESE 24:11 HAVE ñ2,050 MG OF SODIUM. 24:12 HALF A CUP OF CANNED TOMATO SUP HAS ñ2200MG OF 24:17 SODIUM. REMEMBER, YOUR BODY NEEDS LESS THAN 500MG 24:18 PER DAY! SO, HOW CAN YOU DECREASE YOUR INTAKE 24:27 OF SODIUM? FIRST OF ALL, BECOME A LABEL READER AND 24:34 SELECT PRODUCTS THAT ARE LOW IN SODIUM! LOOK 24:35 FOR WORDS LIKE "SALT", "SODIUM" AND "SODA" ON THE 24:38 LABEL. TRY NOT TO PURCHASE TOO MANY PROCESSED FOODS. 24:43 THE MORE PROCESSED THEY ARE, THE MORE SODIUM THEY 24:44 ARE LIKELY TO HAVE. STOCK UP ON FRUITS 24:48 AND VEGETABLES. THESE HAVE NATURALLY OCCURRING SODIUM 24:53 BUT IN SMALL AMOUNTS THAT YOUR BODY CAN HANDLE AND 24:54 MAKE USE OF. DO MORE OF YOUR COOKING FROM SCRATCH. 25:00 THAT WAY YOU CONTROL THE INGREDIENTS, ESPECIALLY 25:05 THE SALT. HAPPY COOKING, EVERYONE! AND, PUT DOWN 25:06 THAT SALT SHAKER. I'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. 25:18 >>DAN LINRUD: HOW CAN I FIND PEACE OF MIND? I 25:19 THERE HOPE FOR A CHAOTIC WORLD? IS THERE LIFE AFTER 25:22 DEATH? HOW CAN I FIND LOVE, HOPE AND SECURITY? 25:28 YOU CAN FIND THE ANSWERS FOR TODAY'S QUESTIONS IN 25:29 THE BIBLE. DISCOVER JUST HOW RELEVANT THE BIBLE 25:34 IS TO LIFE IN THE 21ST CENTURY. ENROLL IN THE 25:38 DISCOVER BIBLE GUIDES AND LET THE WORD OF GOD GIVE 25:39 YOU A NEW INSIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE. HERE'S 25:43 THE INFORMATION ON HOW TO ORDER YOUR LESSONS TODAY. 26:34 >>BILL: GENTLEMEN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING 26:35 ON THE PROGRAM. PASTOR PALMER, DO YOU WANT TO 26:38 REMIND OUR VIEWERS OF THE WEBSITE FOR YOUR CHURCH? 26:41 >>PASTOR PALMER: OUR WARM AND WELCOMING WEBSITE 26:42 IS WWW.MEADOWVALE.ORG. 26:47 >>BILL: AND YOU MEET THERE SATURDAY MORNINGS 26:48 >>PASTOR PALMER: EVERY SATURDAY MORNING FROM 26:51 9:15, TUESDAY'S AND WEDNESDAY'S FOR PRAYER 26:53 MEETING AS WELL. >>BILL: WONDERFUL. PASTOR JOHNSON, 26:54 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 26:56 MAY GOD BLESS YOU AS YOU LEAD THE SEVENTH-DAY 26:57 ADVENTIST CHURCH IN CANADA. >>PASTOR JOHNSON: 27:00 THANK YOU. >>BILL: THANK YOU TO OUR FAITHFUL 27:02 VIEWERS THAT TUNE IN EACH AND EVERY WEEK. WE 27:03 APPRECIATE SO MUCH YOU MAKE TIME TO BE WITH US. 27:06 NOW, IF YOU'RE ENJOYING THIS SERIES ON THE FRUIT 27:09 OF THE SPIRIT, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AT THE 27:10 END OF THE SERIES WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING ALL 27:13 OF THESE PRRAMS ON A DVD AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND 27:16 PRE-ORDER THAT ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOU CAN GET 27:17 THAT FOR A DONATION OF $40 TO THIS 27:22 MINISTRY. THE WEBSITE, ITISWRITTENCANADA.CA. YOU 27:26 CAN SEND PRAYER REQUESTS, YOU CAN COMMENT ON THE 27:27 PROGRAM, YOU CAN FIND OUT WHERE OUR "IT IS WRITTEN" 27:30 TEAM MAY BE APPEARING AND WE HOPE YOU CHECK THAT 27:34 OUT. ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE ON OUR 27:35 YOUTUBE CHANNEL, YOUTUBE.COM/IIWCANADA AND 27:40 YOU CAN EVEN FOLLOW US ON TWITTER. WELL, OUR PLAN, 27:43 OUR PRAYER, AND THE DESIRE OF OUR HEART IS TO BE BACK 27:45 AGAIN NEXT WEEK. IT WON'T BE THE SAME IF YOU'RE NOT 27:50 HERE SO WHY NOT MAKE THE TIME TO JOIN US AGAIN. 27:53 SAME STATION, SAME TIME. 27:54 UNTIL THEN, REMEMBER, IT IS WRITTEN; MAN SHALL NOT 27:59 LIVE BY BREAD ALONE BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS 28:00 FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD. 28:06 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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