Participants: Bill Santos
Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC201026
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00:01 >>BILL: ON TODAY'S 'IT IS WRITTEN' PROGRAM, WE ARE
00:02 DISCUSSING EVOLUTION AND CREATION UNDER THE 00:03 TITLE, EVOLUTION: FACT OR FICTION? WE HAVE A SPECIAL 00:09 GUEST WITH US, RANDY RUGGLES. I HOPE YOU WILL 00:10 JOIN US. 'IT IS WRITTEN' BEGINS RIGHT NOW. 00:16 (MUSIC) 00:25 >>ANNOUNCER: IT HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME. 00:28 GOD'S BOOK, THE BIBLE 00:31 STILL RELEVANT IN TODAY'S COMPLEX WORLD 00:35 IT IS WRITTEN 00:38 SHARING MESSAGES OF HOPE AROUND THE WORLD. 00:42 (MUSIC) 00:55 >>BILL: WELL, LET ME WELCOME OUR VIEWERS TO 00:56 THIS 'IT IS WRITTEN' PROGRAM AND LET ME 00:57 WELCOME MY SPECIAL GUEST, RANDY RANDY, WELCOME BACK. 00:59 >>RANDY: THANKS, BILL. 01:01 >>BILL: RANDY WAS HERE WITH US BEFORE AND RANDY 01:02 AND I MET IN NORTH BAY A LITTLE WHILE AGO AND WE 01:03 GOT TO TALKING AND RANDY HAS A REAL PASSION FOR 01:11 THIS DEBATE OF EVOLUTION VERSUS CREATION. AND HAS 01:17 COMPILED A BOOK - I SAY COMPILED - WRITTEN A BOOK, 01:18 I GUESS, WRITTEN A BOOK, 'EVOLUTION: FACT OR 01:23 FICTION?' WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE END THE 01:26 PROGRAM TODAY. >>RANDY: SURE. >>BILL: AND WE'VE 01:27 INVITED YOU BACK BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO TALK A 01:30 LITTLE BIT ABOUT ARGUMENTS THAT CHRISTIANS SHOULD NOT 01:37 USE, RIGHT? WHEN DEFENDING CREATIONISM 01:38 VERSUS.>>RANDY: EXACTLY. 01:41 >>BILL:.VERSUS EVOLUTION, RIGHT? >>RANDY: EXACTLY. 01:43 THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS SHOW IS BECAUSE WE 01:44 WANT TO TEACH CHRISTIANS HOW TO DEFEND THE FAITH 01:48 AGAINST EVOLUTION. AND SO, THERE ARE CERTAIN MISTAKES 01:49 THAT ARE SOMETIMES MADE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN BAD 01:53 ARGUMENTS SO WE JUST WANT TO OUTLINE A FEW OF THOSE 01:56 TODAY. >>BILL: SURE. 01:57 >>RANDY: WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SEVEN OF THEM. 01:58 BEFORE I DO THAT THOUGH, LAST TIME WE TALKED BEFORE 01:59 I GAVE YOU A COUPLE OF QUOTES ABOUT EVOLUTION AND 02:04 I WANTED TO START BY DOING THAT. SIR ARTHUR KEITH 02:08 SAID, 'EVOLUTION IS UNPROVED AND UNPROVEABLE 02:09 WE BELIEVE IT ONLY BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE IS SPECIAL 02:14 CREATION AND THAT IS UNTHINKABLE'. ONCE AGAIN, 02:16 WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME THAT THEY DO NOT WANT 02:18 TO BELIEVE IN A GOD SO THEY'RE CHOOSING TO 02:20 BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION ANOTHER QUOTE IS 02:24 'SCIENTISTS WHO GO ABOUT TEACHING THAT EVOLUTION IS 02:25 THE FACT OF LIFE ARE GREAT CON MEN AND THE STORY THAT 02:29 THEY ARE TELLING MAY BE THE GREATEST HOAX EVER. IN 02:32 EXPLAINING EVOLUTION WE DO NOT HAVE ONE IOTA 02:33 OF FACT'. >>BILL: WOW. 02:37 >>RANDY: SOME OF THESE QUOTES ARE VERY POWERFUL 02:38 >>BILL: YES. >>RANDY: AND THIS ONE SAID BY MICHAEL 02:40 RUSE, IN NATIONAL POST, IN THE YEAR 2000, HE SAID, 02:44 'EVOLUTION IS PROMOTED BY ITS PRACTIONERS AS 02:45 MORE THAN MERE SCIENCE. 02:47 EVOLUTION IS PROMOLGATED AS AN IDEOLOGY, A SECULAR 02:48 RELIGION, A FULL-FLEDGED ALTERNATIVE TO 02:51 CHRISTIANITY WITH MEANING AND MORALITY. I AM AN 02:55 ARDENT EVOLUTIONIST AND AN EX-CHRISTIAN BUT I 02:56 MUST ADMIT IN THIS ONE COMPLAINT THAT 02:59 THE LITERALISTS,' IE: THE CREATIONISTS, MEANING THE 03:03 PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE BIBLE LITERALLY, 'ARE ABSOLUTELY 03:04 RIGHT. EVOLUTION IS A RELIGION. THAT IS TRUE OF 03:06 EVOLUTION IN THE BEGINNING AND THAT IS TRUE OF 03:10 EVOLUTION STILL TODAY'. 03:11 >>BILL: WOW. >>RANDY: MICHAEL RUSE IS ACTUALLY 03:13 AN ARDENT EVOLUTIONIST, AS HE SAID, AND YET HE 03:14 IS STILL ADMITTING THAT EVOLUTION IS A RELIGION. 03:16 NOW, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS, AS I MENTIONED, IS 03:19 TALK ABOUT SEVEN ARGUMENTS AGAINST EVOLUTION THAT 03:20 CHRISTIANS SHOULD NOT USE. 03:23 >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: YO MAY HAVE HEARD SOME OF 03:24 THESE BEFORE. I DEFINITELY HEAR A LOT OF THEM IN 03:26 MY TRAVELS AND IN MY TALKS ONE OF THEM, I DON'T THINK 03:30 THIS ONE'S AS COMMON ANYMORE BUT PEOPLE WILL 03:31 OFTEN SAY, 'WELL, GOD PUT THOSE DINOSAUR FOSSILS 03:34 IN THE GROUND TO TEST OUR FAITH', OR 'SATAN PUT 03:36 DINOSAUR FOSSILS IN THE GROUND TO DESTROY OUR 03:38 FAITH'. NOW, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT, FIRST OF ALL, 03:41 GOD IS NOT A DECEIVER AND SO, HE WOULDN'T DO 03:45 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 03:46 >>BILL: SURE. >>RANDY: AND SECOND OF ALL, FOSSILS ARE 03:48 REAL AND THEY CAN EASILY BE EXPLAINED BY A GLOBAL 03:49 FLOOD. AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUOTE HERE FROM 03:52 2PETER 3.>>BILL: OKAY. 03:53 >>RANDY:.THAT SAYS, 'FIRST OF ALL, YOU MUST 03:55 UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE LAST DAYS SCOFFERS WILL 03:58 COME. SCOFFING AND FOLLOWING THEIR OWN EVIL 03:59 DESIRES. THEY DELIBERATELY FORGET THAT LONG AGO, BY 04:02 GOD'S WORD, THE HEAVENS EXISTED AND THE EARTH WAS 04:05 FORMED OUT OF WATER AND BY WATER. BY THESE WATERS, 04:06 ALSO, THE WORLD AT THAT TIME WAS DELUGED AND 04:09 DESTROYED'. NOW, WHAT THAT'S SAYING IS THAT AT 04:13 THE END TIMES, IN THE LAST DAYS, PEOPLE WILL COME 04:14 THAT WILL DELIBERATELY NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE CREATION 04:19 AND THE FLOOD. AND THE FLOOD OF NOAH'S DAY CAN 04:24 ACTUALLY EXPLAIN A LOT OF THE FOSSIL RECORD THAT 04:25 EVOLUTIONISTS BELIEVE TOOK MILLIONS OR BILLIONS 04:29 OF YEARS. SO - AND WHY DO THEY DO THAT? IT SAYS THAT 04:33 THEY'RE FOLLOWING THEIR OWN EVIL DESIRES. THEY ARE 04:34 WALKING AFTER THEIR OWN LUSTS, THE BIBLE SAYS. 04:37 AND AS THE QUOTE THAT WE LOOKED AT LAST TIME FROM 04:40 MR. GEORGE WALD, SAID, HE DID NOT WANT TO BELIEVE 04:41 IN GOD. >>BILL: SO HE WAS PREPARED TO BELIEVE 04:44 IN SOMETHING THAT WAS SCIENTIFICALLY 04:47 UNPROVEABLE, RIGHT? 04:48 SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, RIGHT? >>RANDY: EXACTLY. 04:50 >>BILL: I GUESS THE QUOTE WAS. >>RANDY: EXACTLY. AND 04:52 SO, THAT IS THE REASON WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE IN 04:56 EVOLUTION AND PEOPLE LIKE RICHARD DAWKINS, HE HAS A 04:59 QUOTE THAT GOES SOMETHING LIKE, EVOLUTION MADE - OR 05:00 DARWIN MADE ATHEISM, MADE IT SCIENTIFICALLY TENABLE 05:05 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I FORGET EXACTLY THE QUOTE 05:12 BUT - INTELLECTUALLY FULFILLING, OR SOMETHING 05:13 LIKE THAT. THEN AGAIN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT 05:15 QUOTE BUT YEAH, DARWIN MADE IT POSSIBLE TO BE AN 05:19 INTELLECTUALLY FULFILLED ATHEIST. I THINK THAT'S 05:20 THE WAY IT GOES. AND SO, THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN 05:23 TO. IF YOU TALK TO SOMEONE WHO IS AN ATHEIST THEY 05:27 HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION 05:28 BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER GAME IN TOWN. >>BILL: 05:31 RIGHT. >>RANDY: THEY DON'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE A 05:33 CREATOR. >>BILL: RIGHT. 05:34 RIGHT. >>RANDY: SO, WE WANT THEM TO STAY AWAY 05:37 FROM THAT ARGUMENT THAT GOD PUT DINOSAUR FOSSILS 05:38 IN THE GROUND. WE BELIEVE THAT DINOSAURS DID REALLY 05:41 EXIST. THEY DID WALK THE EARTH. I BELIEVE THAT, 05:44 PROBABLY, A LOT OF THEM WERE DESTROYED IN THE 05:45 FLOOD OF NOAH. HERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT I 05:52 HEAR OFTEN THOUGH IS THAT PEOPLE WILL OFTEN SAY THAT 05:55 EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY. AND THERE'S NO 05:56 PROBLEM WITH THE WORD THEORY, EVOLUTION IS A 05:59 THEORY, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH WORDING IT THAT WAY 06:03 IS THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DISCREDIT IT IN SOME 06:04 WAY OR SAYING IT'S NOT PROVEN BY SAYING THAT IT'S 06:07 JUST A THEORY. >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: AND HERE'S 06:10 THE PROBLEM, IS THAT SCIENTISTS DON'T USE THE 06:11 TERM THEORY THE SAME WAY WE DO. >>BILL: I SEE, 06:13 OKAY. >>RANDY: WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE WORD 06:15 'THEORY' WE SAY, IT'S A HUNCH; IT'S A GUESS; IT'S 06:16 CONJECTURE. BUT LET ME GIVE YOU QUOTE HERE 06:18 THAT SAYS, 'IN SCIENTIFIC TERMINOLOGY, A THEORY IS A 06:23 HYPOTHESIS THAT HAS BEEN SUPPORTED BY SO MANY 06:24 CASES THAT FEW SCIENTISTS SERIOUSLY DOUBT 06:26 ITS VALIDITY. THUS A SCIENTIFIC THEORY IS 06:30 SIMILAR TO WHAT WE CALL A LAW OR A FACT IN COMMON 06:31 ENGLISH USAGE. PEOPLE WHO REFER TO EVOLUTION AS 06:36 'JUST A THEORY' PROFOUNDLY MISUNDERSTAND WHAT 06:39 SCIENTISTS MEAN BY THAT TERM'. SO, ONCE AGAIN, 06:40 THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH CALLING EVOLUTION A THEORY 06:43 BECAUSE IT IS BUT WHEN SCIENTISTS USE THAT TERM 06:46 THEY ARE CLAIMING THAT THEY THINK IT'S A PROVEN 06:47 AS THE EARTH ROTATING ABOUT THE SUN AND THAT 06:51 GRAVITY EXISTS AND THAT TYPE OF THING. AND I'VE 06:54 GOT MANY QUOTES TO THAT EFFECT. >>BILL: 06:55 INTERESTING. >>RANDY: SO, REALLY, WHAT IS A 06:57 BETTER WAY TO HANDLE THAT OBJECTION WOULD BE TO SAY 07:01 SOMETHING LIKE; EVOLUTION IS NOT A PROVEN FACT SO 07:02 IT SHOULD NOT BE PROMOTED DOGMATICALLY. THAT'S 07:05 REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY WHEN WE'RE SAYING 07:08 EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY. >>BILL: RIGHT. 07:09 >>RANDY: SO IT'S USING THE WORD THEORY THE WAY IT'S 07:12 INTENDED TO BE USED BY A SCIENTIST. >>BILL: OKAY. 07:16 >>RANDY: YOU KNOW, IF YOU SAY TO A SCIENTIST 07:17 EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY, THEY SAY THIS 07:18 PERSON HAS NO CLUE OF HOW WE USE THAT WORD SO WE CAN 07:23 WRITE HIM OFF. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION 07:24 WITH HIM BECAUSE HE'S LOST CREDIBILITY IMMEDIATELY. 07:27 >>BILL: RIGHT, RIGHT. 07:28 OKAY. >>RANDY: THE NEXT ONE IS 'IF MAN EVOLVED 07:30 FROM APES, WHY ARE THERE STILL APES?' NOW, I DON'T 07:33 KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD THAT BEFORE BUT, FIRST OF 07:34 ALL, LET ME EXPLAIN THEY DON'T BELIEVE 07:38 - EVOLUTIONISTS DON'T BELIEVE THAT MAN EVOLVED 07:40 FROM APES. THEY CLAIM THAT MAN AND APES SHARE A 07:41 COMMON ANCESTOR. SO, THEY DON'T BELIEVE, PERSAY, 07:47 THAT MAN EVOLVED FROM APES. BUT HERE'S WHAT THEY 07:51 ALSO SAY, 'THE QUESTION IS A BIT LIKE ASKING IF 07:52 CANADIANS AND AMERICANS ARE DESCENDED FROM 07:57 EUROPEANS, WHY ARE THERE STILL EUROPEANS?' BECAUSE 08:00 TO THEM THE WAY EVOLUTION WORKS IS A SUBSET OF THE 08:01 POPULATION BREAKS OFF AND MAYBE THEY GET STRANDED 08:06 ON AN ISLAND OR MAYBE THEY GET SEPARATED BY A FOREST 08:10 OR A RIVER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN THROUGH 08:11 INTERBREEDING OF THAT SUBSET GROUP.>>BILL: 08:15 RIGHT. >>RANDY:.THEY END UP COMING TO THE POINT OF 08:18 WHERE THEY CAN NO LONGER INTERBREED WITH THE 08:19 ORIGINAL GROUP. AND THAT ACTUALLY DOES HAPPEN 08:21 BUT TO US THAT'S NOT EVOLUTION. THAT, AGAIN, IS 08:24 JUST, ONCE AGAIN, VARIATIONS WITHIN THE 08:25 KINDS AND THAT'S ALL WE'VE EVER SEEN. >>BILL: RIGHT. 08:28 >>RANDY: SO, ANOTHER THING WOULD BE - IT'S KIND OF 08:32 LIKE SAYING, IF YOU AND YOUR COUSIN ARE DESCENDED 08:33 FROM YOUR GRANDMOTHER, WHY IS YOUR GRANDMOTHER STILL 08:35 AROUND? EVOLUTION DOESN'T CLAIM THAT APES HAD TO GO 08:40 EXTINCT SO THAT HUMANS COULD GET HERE, IF YOU 08:41 FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING. 08:43 >BILL: RIGHT. >>RANDY: S IT'S NOT A LOGICAL.>>BILL: 08:44 SO THAT EVERY APE WAS GOING TO EVOLVE INTO A 08:47 MAN. >>RANDY: EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD SAY THAT 08:49 SOME APES SPLIT OFF AT SOME POINT AND THAT GROUP, 08:50 THESE APES REMAINED AND THOSE APES EVENTUALLY 08:54 LEAD TO HUMANS OR SHARED A COMMON ANCESTOR. SOME 08:58 UNKNOWN COMMON ANCESTOR THAT HAS YET TO BE FOUND 08:59 >>BILL: RIGHT. >>RANDY: ARGUMENT NUMBER 09:02 FOUR IS THAT THERE ARE NO TRANSITIONAL FORMS IN THE 09:06 FOSSIL RECORD. NOW, I SHOULD JUST EXPLAIN WHAT 09:07 I MEAN BY .>>BILL: YEAH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN 09:09 BY TRANSITIONAL FORMS >>RANDY: ANOTHER WORD FOR 09:11 IT WOULD BE MISSING LINKS, THAT TYPE OF THING. IF YOU 09:13 WANTED TO GO FROM, SAY, THEY DO BELIEVE THAT 09:16 DINOSAURS TURN INTO BIRDS, FOR EXAMPLE OR THEY DO 09:19 BELIEVE THAT COWS OR SOMETHING LIKE A 09:20 LAND-DWELLING ANIMALS TURNED INTO WHALES, WENT 09:23 INTO THE OCEAN AND TURNED INTO WHALES. HOW MANY 09:25 DIFFERENT CHANGES WOULD YOU HAVE TO MAKE IN A 09:26 DINOSAUR TO TURN IT INTO A BIRD. THERE WOULD NEED 09:30 TO BE - I MEAN NOBODY HAS EVER PUT A NUMBER ON IT 09:34 BUT DARWIN, HIMSELF, ACKNOWLEDGED THAT BETWEEN 09:35 EACH SPECIES THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE THOUSANDS AND 09:38 THOUSANDS OF TRANSITIONS IN THE FOSSIL RECORD. AND 09:42 WHAT THEY DO IS, THEY DO FIND POTENTIAL CANDIDATES 09:43 BUT WHAT I LOOK AT IS IS WE SHOULD BE FINDING, WE 09:48 SHOULD BE UNCOVERING, WE SHOULD JUST BE TRIPPING 09:52 OVER TRANSITIONAL FORMS. 09:53 WE PULL OUT SOMETHING IS A MILLION YEARS OLD IT 09:55 SHOULD BE RADICALLY DISTINCT FROM SOMETHING 09:56 THAT WE HAVE TODAY AND YET, THEY'LL PULL OUT 10:01 BATS A MILLION YEARS AGO, BY THEIR, BY THEIR TIME 10:05 SCALE.>>BILL: YES. 10:06 >>RANDY:.LOOK VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS BATS TODAY. 10:08 SO, WHY AREN'T BATS EVOLVING? SO, IT'S THINGS 10:09 LIKE THAT. IT'S PROBABLY CORRECT TO SAY THAT THERE 10:14 ARE NO TRANSITIONAL FORMS WHAT WE REALLY MEAN TO SAY 10:18 IS SOMETHING LIKE, WHILE DARWIN PREDICTED THAT THE 10:20 FOSSIL RECORD WOULD SHOW NUMEROUS TRANSITIONAL 10:24 FOSSILS, EVEN 150 YEARS LATER ALL WE HAVE ARE A 10:27 HANDFUL OF DISPUTABLE EXAMPLES. SO, THE WAY I 10:28 LOOK AT IT IS TRANSITIONAL FORMS SHOULD BE THE RULE, 10:32 NOT THE EXCEPTION. LIKE I SAY, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE 10:36 PULLING OUT OF THE GROUND SHOULD BE A TRANSITIONAL 10:37 FORM AND WE SHOULDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT IS 10:39 RADICALLY, OR VIRTUALLY THE SAME.>>BILL: RIGHT. 10:43 >>RANDY:.WHEN YOU LOOK BACK IN THE FOSSIL RECORD 10:44 THEY SAY THAT MISSING LINKS ARE MISSING BUT 10:47 ACTUALLY IT'S THE WHOLE CHAIN IS MISSING. SO, 10:50 THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM. NOW, ARGUMENT 10:51 NUMBER FIVE IS THAT DARWIN RECANTED ON HIS DEATHBED. 10:55 HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THAT ONE? >>BILL: I'VE HEARD 10:57 THAT. YES. >>RANDY: NOW, LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE 10:58 BIT ABOUT WHY PEOPLE SAY THAT. >>BILL: OKAY. 11:00 >>RANDY: THERE WAS A WOMAN NAMED LADY HOPE - I DON'T 11:02 KNOW THE WHOLE STORY BUT SUPPOSEDLY SHE VISITED 11:03 DARWIN ON HIS DEATHBED AND, IT'S KIND OF AN URBAN 11:07 LEGEND NOW THAT THEY READ TOGETHER FROM HEBREWS AND 11:11 HE SAID THAT THAT WAS HIS FAVOURITE PASSAGE IN THE 11:12 BIBLE. AND HE SAID THAT I WAS A YOUNG MAN WITH 11:17 UNFORMED IDEAS AND AFTER HIS DEATH SHE TRAVELLED 11:21 AROUND AND HER STORY GOT PUBLISHED, IN EVEN SOME 11:23 MAJOR CHRISTIAN MAGAZINES, SO THE IDEA WAS THAT HE 11:27 HAD REJECTED EVOLUTION ON HIS DEATHBED. NOW, HERE, 11:33 FROM ALL THE RESEARCH I'VE DONE, FIRST OF ALL, THE 11:35 LADY HOPE STORY PROBABLY IS NOT TRUE. IT PROBABLY - 11:38 I DON'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS; WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR 11:43 NOT SHE ACTUALLY VISITED DARWIN ON HIS DEATHBED BUT 11:44 QUOTES THAT WE HAVE FROM SOME OF HIS FAMILY 11:47 MEMBERS, FRANCIS DARWIN, WHO WAS HIS SON, SAID, 'HE 11:50 COULD NOT HAVE BECOME OPENLY AND 11:51 ENTHUSIASTICALLY CHRISTIAN WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE 11:53 OF HIS FAMILY AND NO SUCH CHANGE OCCURRED'. HE ALSO 11:57 SAID, 'LADY HOPE'S ACCOUNT OF MY FATHER'S VIEWS ON 11:59 RELIGION IS QUITE UNTRUE. 12:01 I PUBLICLY ACCUSED HER OF FALSEHOOD BUT HAVE 12:02 NOT SEEN A REPLY'. AND HENRIETTA DARWIN, HIS 12:05 DAUGHTER, SAID, 'I WAS PRESENT AT HIS DEATHBED, 12:07 LADY HOPE WAS NOT PRESENT DURING HIS LAST ILLNESS 12:08 OR ANY ILLNESS. HE NEVER RECANTED ANY OF HIS 12:12 SCIENTIFIC VIEWS, EITHER THEN OR EARLIER.' NOW, ONE 12:16 MORE POINT I WILL MAKE ABOUT THAT IS THAT 12:17 DARWIN'S WIFE WAS A VERY DEVOUT CHRISTIAN 12:20 AND ANYBODY WHO WOULD HAVE LOVED FOR DARWIN TO RECANT 12:23 HIS VIEWS WOULD HAVE BEEN HIS WIFE. AND SHE WOULD 12:24 HAVE COME OUT AND OPENLY SUPPORTED THAT BUT SHE 12:28 NEVER DID. ANOTHER MAJOR POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE 12:33 ABOUT THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT IS THAT ULTIMATELY, SO 12:34 WHAT? LET'S SAY IF WE HAD - IT'S KNOWN IN LOGICAL 12:36 WHAT'S CALLED AN ARGUMENT FROM AUTHORITY CLAIMING 12:40 THAT SOMEBODY IMPORTANT BELIEVES THEN IT MUST 12:41 BE TRUE. >>BILL: RIGHT. 12:44 >>RANDY: SUPPOSE - THINK OF SOMEONE THAT YOU KNOW 12:45 THAT IS WELL KNOWN THAT IS A VERY DEVOUT CHRISTIAN. 12:51 I THINK OF, SAY, BILLY GRAHAM. >>BILL: OKAY. 12:53 >>RANDY: NOW, IMAGINE THAT BILLY GRAHAM, IF HE CAME 12:54 OUT ON HIS DEATHBED AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT 12:57 WHOLE CHRISTIANITY THING, I WAS WRONG; IT WAS ALL A 13:00 MISTAKE; JESUS NEVER EXISTED OR WHAT HAVE YOU 13:01 WOULD WE ALL SAY, OH, WELL, BILLY GRAHAM SAYS 13:06 IT'S NOT SO, SO I GUESS IT'S NOT SO. I GUESS WE 13:09 MIGHT AS WELL PACK UP AND GO HOME. >>BILL: PROBABLY 13:10 NOT. >>RANDY: RIGHT. SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT 13:12 ANY ONE PERSON BELIEVES IT MATTERS WHAT THE FACTS 13:15 ARE. >>BILL: SURE, OF COURSE. >>RANDY:.AND WHAT 13:17 THE BIBLE SAYS. AND SO, THAT'S WHY THAT ARGUMENT 13:20 IS NOT A VERY GOOD ARGUMENT BECAUSE EVEN IF 13:22 DARWIN - EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE.>>BILL: EVEN IF HE 13:23 DID OR DIDN'T, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. >>RANDY:.IT 13:25 DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IT'S NOT A GOOD ARGUMENT 13:28 EITHER WAY. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. >>BILL: 13:29 OKAY. >>RANDY: ARGUMENT NUMBER SIX, DARWIN'S 13:33 QUOTE ABOUT THE ABSURDITY OF 'EYE' EVOLUTION PROVES 13:34 EVEN HE KNEW EVOLUTION WAS IMPOSSIBLE. NOW, I'M JUST 13:35 GOING TO READ YOU WHAT HIS QUOTE IS. >>BILL: OKAY. 13:37 >>RANDY: HE SAID IN ORIGIN OF THE SPECIES ON PAGE 13:39 186, HE SAID, 'JUST SUPPOSE THAT THE EYE 13:40 COULD HAVE BEEN FORMED BY NATURAL SELECTION I TRULY 13:44 CONFESS THAT ABSURD IN THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE DEGREE'. 13:49 AND OFTEN PEOPLE WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, EVEN DARWIN 13:50 KNEW IT WAS ABSURD THAT EVOLUTION COULD HAPPEN. A 13:53 COMPLEX STRUCTURE LIKE THE HUMAN EYE COULD NOT HAVE 13:56 EVOLVED. NOW, TO QUOTE IT LIKE THAT IS TAKING 13:57 IT SUBTLY OUT OF CONTEXT. 14:02 >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: BECAUSE IF YOU READ WHAT 14:03 DARWIN WROTE, HE SAID, 'I CONFESS THAT IT MAY 14:05 SEEM ABSURD', BUT THEN HE WENT ON TO EXPLAIN HOW HE 14:09 THINKS THAT IT HAPPENED ANYWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS 14:10 OF NATURAL SELECTION OVER SEVERAL YEARS, OVER 14:13 THOUSANDS OF YEARS >>BILL: HE'S LIKE THE 14:16 OTHER GUY WHO SAID IT'S SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE; 14:17 I STILL CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT. >>RANDY: EXACTLY. 14:19 SO, ONCE AGAIN BY QUOTING DARWIN IN THAT WAY IT'S 14:24 TAKING HIM OUT OF CONTEXT AND ONCE AGAIN IT'S NOT 14:25 REALLY A VALID ARGUMENT TO USE. ARGUMENT SEVEN WHICH 14:29 IS THE LAST ONE WE'LL LOOK AT. AND I'M SURPRISED THAT 14:33 SO MANY PEOPLE STILL USE THIS. I HEARD THIS WHEN I 14:34 WAS A KID. YOU MAY HAVE, TOO. AND EVEN SOMEONE 14:36 RECENTLY TOLD ME, SOMEONE WHO BELIEVED IN EVOLUTION 14:40 TOLD ME, WELL, I DO BELIEVE SOMEWHAT IN THE 14:41 ADAM AND EVE STORY BECAUSE WOMEN REALLY DO HAVE ONE 14:44 MORE RIB THAN MEN. AND I SAID, PLEASE DON'T SAY 14:47 THAT. PLEASE DON'T TELL PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE IT'S 14:48 NOT TRUE. AND HE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME. BUT I SAID, 14:53 ASK YOUR DOCTOR. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT TRUE. 14:57 BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE ADAM AND EVE STORY WHERE IT 14:58 SAYS THAT GOD TOOK A RIB OR SOMETHING FROM THE SIDE 15:02 OF ADAM AND FORMED IT INTO EVE, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT 15:07 MAN HAS ONE LESS RIB THAN WOMEN. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S 15:08 NOT TRUE. HUMANS ALL HAVE TWELVE PAIRS OF RIBS. THE 15:13 OTHER POINT IS THAT EVEN IF ADAM'S RIB WAS REMOVED 15:18 IT WOULD NOT AFFECT FUTURE OFFSPRING. THEY'VE 15:20 BEEN DOING EXPERIMENTS FOR HUNDREDS OF GENERATIONS 15:23 WHERE THEY'VE CUT THE TAILS OFF OF MICE AND THEY 15:25 DO NOT EVER BREED A TAILLESS MICE, RIGHT. EVEN 15:26 IF ADAM LIVED THE REST OF HIS LIFE WITHOUT A RIB 15:30 IT'S NOT GOING TO EFFECT FUTURE OFFSPRING. THE 15:33 OTHER THING IS THAT THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING 15:34 FACT, IS THAT THE RIB IS THE ONLY BONE IN THE HUMAN 15:37 BODY THAT CAN REGENERATE IF YOU TAKE IT OUT AND IF 15:41 YOU LEAVE THE SURROUNDING MEMBRANE LEFT 15:42 INTACT >>BILL: THAT'S INTERESTING. >>RANDY: IT 15:47 ALMOST MAKES YOU THINK GOD KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. 15:48 >>BILL: THAT'S RIGHT. 15:49 WOW, THE CREATOR ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT.ISN'T THAT 15:52 INCREDIBLE? >>RANDY: NOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE 15:53 SEVEN ARGUMENTS THAT WE SHOULDN'T USE I WANT TO 15:58 LOOK AT SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SERIOUS HERE IS, ONCE 16:02 AGAIN, WHY THIS ISSUE IS SO IMPORTANT TO 16:03 CHRISTIANS. THERE MAY BE A LOT OF YOUR VIEWERS 16:08 SAYING, WHY DOES THIS MATTER? WHY IS IT 16:11 IMPORTANT? AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A FEW QUOTES 16:12 FROM SCIENTISTS THEMSELVES THAT ARE SAYING - THESE 16:16 ARE VERY POWERFUL QUOTES ONE OF THEM BEING FROM 16:19 WILLIAM B. PROVINE, A HISTORIAN OF SCIENCE AT 16:20 CORNELL UNIVERSITY AND A COMMITTED ATHEIST, 16:23 SAYS, 'LET ME SUMMARIZE MY VIEWS ON WHAT MODERN 16:26 EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY TELLS US LOUD AND CLEAR. THERE 16:27 ARE NO GODS; NO PURPOSES; NO GOAL-DIRECTED FORCES OF 16:31 ANY KIND; THERE IS NO LIFE AFTER DEATH; THERE IS NO 16:35 ULTIMATE FOUNDATION FOR ETHICS; NO ULTIMATE 16:36 MEANING TO LIFE; AND NO FREE WILL FOR HUMANS 16:39 EITHER'. SO, YOU'VE GOT A SCIENTIST WHO'S SAYING, IF 16:43 EVOLUTION IS TRUE, WITHOUT A CREATOR, THEN THERE'S 16:44 NO PURPOSE TO LIFE; THEY ADMIT THERE'S 16:48 NO FOUNDATION FOR ETHICS; THERE'S NO FREE WILL; ALL 16:52 THOSE THINGS. IN FACT, I TALKED TO A GENTLEMAN THAT 16:53 I MET RECENTLY AT A COFFEE SHOP AND HE CLAIMED TO BE 16:57 AN ATHEIST. AND I PROPOSED THE IDEA TO HIM THAT, HOW 17:02 DO YOU DECIDE THAT IF THERE IS NO GOD, HOW DO 17:03 YOU DECIDE WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG? I SAID, 17:07 YOU CAN'T SAY THAT WHAT HITLER DID BY KILLING SIX 17:11 MILLION JEWS, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT BY WHAT HE DID 17:12 WAS WRONG. HE THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE AND 17:14 HE SAID, YOU'RE RIGHT. 17:15 HE SAID, WITH THE MORAL RELATIVISM THAT WE 17:16 HAVE TODAY.>>BILL: YES, ABSOLUTELY. >>RANDY:.HE 17:20 SAID IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD DO BUT I CAN'T 17:21 OBJECTIVELY SAY THAT WHAT HITLER DID WAS WRONG. AND 17:23 THAT'S WHAT EVOLUTIONARY THINKING LEADS TO. >>BILL: 17:27 YES. >>RANDY: ANOTHER QUOTE SAYS, 'EVOLUTION 17:28 THUS BECOMES THE MOST POTENT WEAPON FOR 17:32 DESTROYING THE CHRISTIAN FAITH'. AND IN A LOT OF 17:35 CASES, PEOPLE LIKE RICHARD DAWKINS, THAT IS WHAT THEY 17:36 ARE OUT TO DO. IS DESTROY THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. AND 17:39 CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS - I'LL JUST SAY QUICKLY - 17:41 CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS WHO WROTE 'GOD IS NOT GREAT', 17:42 HE DOESN'T CALL HIMSELF AN ATHEIST, HE CALLS 17:46 HIMSELF AN ANTI-THEIST. 17:47 HE IS 'ANTI' SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN GOD. SO 17:51 HE IS A MILITANT ATHEIST AND THAT HE IS GOING OUT, 17:54 LITERALLY TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR FAITH 17:55 >>BILL: ISN'T THAT INTERESTING? YEAH, BECAUSE 17:59 THEY POSITION IT AS A, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST 18:02 SCIENCE, SCIENTIFIC.>>RANDY 18:03 SCIENCE VERSUS RELIGION. 18:05 >>BILL:.YEAH. >>RANDY: SCIENCE VERSUS REASON. 18:06 >>BILL: SCIENCE VERSUS REASON. THAT'S RIGHT. 18:10 BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY AN 18:11 ULTERIOR MOTIVE THAT'S DRIVING THIS. THEIR 18:12 INTENT IS TO TEAR DOWN THE RELIGIOUS, THE CHRISTIAN 18:14 FAITH. >>RANDY: AND, OF COURSE, I DON'T WANT TO 18:18 MALIGN SCIENTISTS, I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT ALL 18:19 SCIENTISTS.>>BILL: NO. OF COURSE NOT EVERYBODY. 18:22 >>RANDY:.MOST OF THE PEOPLE LIKE WE'RE TALKING 18:23 ABOUT ARE - JUST BELIEVE IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT 18:24 THEY'VE BEEN TAUGHT, THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THAT 18:27 IT IS TRUE. BUT THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, 18:30 HUMANISTS, THAT ARE, THAT WANT TO DESTROY ANY TYPE 18:31 OF RELIGION BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT FAITH IS 18:36 DANGEROUS. >>BILL: WELL, YOU KNOW, ON ONE SIDE, I 18:39 MEAN I'VE LISTENED TO HITCHENS AND DAWKINS 18:40 SOMETIMES, PARTICULARLY, I GUESS IT'S HITCHENS THAT 18:44 SAYS - HE LIKES TO SITE A LOT OF THE BAD THAT HAS 18:49 HAPPENED AND HAS BEEN DONE IN THE NAME OF RELIGION 18:50 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ADMIT THAT SOMETIMES ORGANIZED 18:54 RELIGION SOMETIMES HAS NOT LIVED OUT, HASN'T LIVED 19:01 THAT CHRISTIANS NEED TO BE LIVING. AND ALL THAT DOES 19:02 IS JUST FEED THE ARGUMENTS THAT THESE GUYS - 19:07 YOU KNOW, THEIR ARGUMENTS >>RANDY: WHAT I WOULD SAY 19:10 TO THAT WHENEVER THAT COMES UP IN AN ARGUMENT 19:11 OR A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE, I WOULD SAY, 19:15 OF COURSE YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME TERRIBLE THINGS 19:18 HAVE BEEN IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY AND IN THE 19:19 NAME OF CHRIST BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT CHRIST 19:21 ACTUALLY TAUGHT, THE PEOPLE WHO DID THOSE 19:25 TERRIBLE THINGS IN HIS NAME WERE NOT BEING 19:26 CONSISTENT. THEY WERE NOT FOLLOWING HIS TEACHINGS. 19:28 BUT WHEN HITLER TRIES TO BREED THE MASTER RACE, HE 19:30 IS FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS OF EV.HE IS FOLLOWING.IT'S 19:31 THE NATURAL OUTPLAYING OF WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT 19:36 TO HAPPEN. SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. SO, WE GET MAD AT 19:39 PEOPLE WHO ARE INCONSISTENT IN THEIR 19:40 BELIEFS. SO, THAT'S WHY THEY CAN BE ANGRY AT 19:44 CHRISTIANS WHO ARE NOT FOLLOWING WHAT JESUS 19:48 TAUGHT. AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO SO BUT THEY 19:49 CAN'T GET MAD AT HITLER BECAUSE HE WAS BEING 19:52 CONSISTENT WITH HIS EVOLUTIONARY TEACHINGS. 19:55 >>BILL: RIGHT. >>RANDY: ONE MORE QUOTE THAT I WANT 19:56 TO READ - IT'S KIND OF A LONG ONE HERE BUT IT'S 19:58 FROM A GENTLEMAN NAMED - I USE THE TERM LOOSELY - A 20:00 GENTLEMAN G. RICHARD BOSARTH, IN AMERICAN 20:02 ATHEIST MAGAZINE, SAID, "ATHEISM WILL BE 20:05 READY TO FILL THE VOID OF CHRISTIANITY'S DEMISE WHEN 20:09 SCIENCE AND EVOLUTION TRIUMPH. CHRISTIANITY HAS 20:10 FOUGHT, STILL FIGHTS, AND WILL FIGHT SCIENCE TO 20:13 THE DESPERATE END OVER EVOLUTION. BECAUSE 20:18 EVOLUTION DESTROYS UTTERLY AND FINALLY THE VERY 20:19 REASON JESUS' EARTHY LIFE WAS SUPPOSEDLY MADE 20:23 NECESSARY. DESTROY ADAM AND EVE AND THE ORIGINAL 20:26 SIN AND IN THE RUBBLE YOU WILL FIND THE SORRY 20:27 REMAINS OF THE SON OF GOD, TAKE AWAY THE MEANING OF 20:30 HIS DEATH. IF JESUS WAS NOT THE REDEEMER WHO DIED 20:32 FOR OUR SINS AND THIS IS WHAT EVOLUTION MEANS THEN 20:33 CHRISTIANITY IS NOTHING'. 20:39 I FIND THAT EXTREMELY TELLING AND EXTREMELY 20:40 POWERFUL. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO DESTROY A BUILDING 20:43 YOU GET AT THE FOUNDATIONS AND YOU DESTROY THE 20:46 BUILDING FROM UNDERNEATH. WELL, ONE 20:47 OF THE FOUNDATIONS OF CHRISTIANITY IS MOST OF 20:50 THE MAJOR DOCTRINES OF THE FALL, OF ORIGINAL SIN, AND 20:54 HOW DEATH CAME INTO THE WORLD ARE ALL FOUND IN THE 20:55 FIRST CHAPTERS OF GENESIS. 20:59 >>BILL: YES. YES. >>RANDY: DESTROY THE FOUNDATION, 21:00 DESTROY THE CREATION STORY, NO FLOOD, NO ADAM 21:01 AND EVE, NO CREATOR, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY 21:06 YOU DO IT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE 21:07 IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR A CHRISTIAN TO RECONCILE - 21:12 THERE'S WHAT'S KNOWN AS THEISTIC EVOLUTION WHERE 21:15 YOU TRY TO BELIEVE THAT GOD USED THE PROCESS OF 21:16 EVOLUTION BRING US ABOUT. 21:19 BUT ONE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT THE 21:20 BIBLE TEACHES US THAT MAN BROUGHT, THROUGH HIS SIN, 21:24 BROUGHT DEATH INTO THE WORLD. AND YET, THE BIBLE 21:28 TEACHES THAT GOD CREATED ADAM AND EVE ON 21:29 DAY SIX AND HE PRONOUCED EVERYTHING TO BE 21:35 VERY GOOD. NOW, WERE THEY STANDING THERE ON A FOSSIL 21:37 RECORD OF BILLIONS OF DEAD THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN 21:38 TEARING EACH OTHER APART FOR MILLENIA AND 21:43 GOD PRONOUCED THAT TO BE VERY GOOD. >>BILL: NOT A 21:47 CHANCE. >>RANDY: IT'S NOT RECONCILABLE WITH THE 21:48 BIBLE IN MANY, MANY WAYS. 21:51 SO, THAT IS WHY I THINK THIS ISSUE IS SO IMPORTANT 21:52 IS BECAUSE IT REALLY UNDERMINES THE WHOLE 21:59 CHRISTIAN FAITH IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE FOUNDATIONS, 22:04 THE WHOLE THING COLLAPSES. WHY DO YOU NEED 22:05 A REDEEMER? >>BILL: SURE. 22:09 >>RANDY: WHY DO YOU NEED TO COME AND DIE FOR OUR 22:10 SINS, IF THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS SIN? WHICH IS 22:14 WHAT THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT TRIES TO SAY, THAT THERE 22:17 IS NO SUCH THING AS SIN, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 22:18 EVIL, AND THEY JUST TRY TO DENY IT ALL. AND.>>BILL: 22:22 PAUL SAYS THAT IF JESUS DIDN'T COME AND DIE AND 22:26 RESURRECT, THEN EVERYTHING WE BELIEVE IS IN VAIN, 22:27 RIGHT? >>RANDY: EXACTLY. 22:30 >>BILL: IF THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, THAT'S NOT THERE, 22:31 THEN WE BELIEVE NOTHING. 22:35 >>RANDY: NOW, I'LL JUST LEAVE YOU WITH ONE MORE 22:36 IDEA. >>BILL: ABSOLUTELY. 22:38 >>RANDY: THIS IS SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC BECAUSE IT'S 22:39 NOT REALLY TO DO WITH EVOLUTION BUT IT IS 22:42 STILL TO DO WITH CREATION >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: AND 22:44 I THINK THIS IS JUST A WONDERFUL WAY TO END THIS 22:45 SEGMENT IS, THE BIBLE TELLS US, GENESIS 1:1, "IN 22:48 THE BEGINNING, GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH". 22:52 NOW, SINCE THE TIME OF EINSTEIN, WE HAVE KNOWN 22:53 THAT TIME, SPACE, AND MATTER ARE ALL 22:58 INTERCONNECTED. IF YOU HAD MATTER BUT NO SPACE, WHERE 23:04 WOULD YOU PUT IT? IF YOU HAD MATTER AND SPACE BUT 23:05 NO TIME, WHEN WOULD YOU PUT IT? SO, TIME, 23:08 SPACE, AND MATTER ARE A CONTINUEM, THEY HAVE TO 23:11 HAVE COME INTO EXISTENCE ALL AT ONCE. NOW, HERE'S 23:12 WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING. 23:15 IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FIRST VERSE IN GENESIS, 'IN THE 23:16 BEGINNING', THAT'S TIME; 'GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN', 23:20 THAT'S SPACE; 'AND THE EARTH', THAT'S MATTER. BUT 23:22 IT GETS EVEN BETTER. IF YOU LOOK AT TIME, THERE'S 23:23 PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE. 23:28 >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: IF YOU LOOK AT SPACE, 23:30 THERE'S LENGTH, WIDTH, AND HEIGHTH. IF YOU LOOK 23:31 AT MATTER, THERE'S SOLID, LIQUID, GAS. SO, I SUBMIT 23:35 TO YOU THAT IN THE FIRST TEN WORDS OF THE BIBLE, 23:36 IN GENESIS 1:1, YOU HAVE A TRINITY OF TRINITIES IN 23:40 THE FIRST TEN WORDS OF THE BIBLE AND I SAY ONLY GOD 23:45 COULD WRITE A BOOK LIKE THAT. >>BILL: YOU'RE 23:46 ABSOLUTELYIGHT, RANDY. 23:48 WOW, EXCELLENT WORK. >>RANDY: THANK YOU. 23:49 >>BILL: NOW, THIS MATERIAL IS IN YOUR BOOK, RIGHT? 23:54 >>RANDY: MOST OF IT BUT NOT ALL OF IT. YES. 23:57 >>BILL: OKAY. JUST LET FOLKS KNOW AS TO WHERE 23:58 THEY CAN GET THIS. 24:03 >>RANDY: SURE. IT IS - THE WEBSITE IS W W W . 24:04 EVOLUTIONFACTORFICTION .COM, WHICH THAT IS THE 24:07 TITLE OF THE BOOK. SO IF YOU KNOW THE NAME, YOU 24:11 KNOW THE WEBSITE. >>BILL: GO AHEAD. >>RANDY: WELL, 24:12 THEY CAN DOWNLOAD THE FIRST THREE CHAPTERS 24:15 OF THE BOOK FOR FREE. THEY GET A LOT OF THE QUOTES IN 24:19 THERE. THERE'S A VIDEO ON THERE THAT THEY CAN WATCH 24:21 THERE'S OTHER MATERIAL THERE THAT I'VE POSTED 24:22 WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD FOR FREE. AND A 24:25 LOT OF THIS MATERIAL PRESENTED BY OTHER 24:26 AUTHORS. AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE ABOUT THE ICONS OF 24:30 EVOLUTION AND DISMANTLING THEM IS ON THE WEBSITE 24:35 TOO, ALSO. >>BILL: NOW, DO YOU DO THESE PRESENTATIONS 24:36 IN DIFFERENT PLACES, SOMETIMES? >>RANDY: I DO. 24:38 I AM AVAILABLE TO COME TO YOUR CHURCH AND COME AND 24:42 SPEAK. >>BILL: THEY CAN CONTACT YOU THROUGH 24:43 THE WEBSITE. >>RANDY: DEFINITELY. >>BILL: GREAT. 24:46 IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING AND WOULD LIKE RANDY TO COME 24:48 OUT, THEY CAN CONTACT YOU THROUGH THE WEBSITE 24:49 >>RANDY: SURE. >>BILL: LET'S HAVE A WORD 24:54 OF PRAYER AS WE COME TO AN END OF THIS SEGMENT. 24:55 FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORD AND YOUR 24:56 LOVE TOWARDS US. WE THANK YOU FOR RANDY AND THE 25:01 RESEARCH HE HAS DONE AND THE WISDOM YOU HAVE GIVEN 25:04 HIM, FATHER. CONTINUE TO USE HIM TO PROCLAIM YOUR 25:05 TRUTH IN THIS WORLD THAT IS SOMETIMES SO CONFUSING. 25:09 FATHER, I THINK OF OUR VIEWERS RIGHT NOW. MAY 25:12 THOSE THAT KNOW YOU BE DRAWN CLOSER TO YOU AND 25:13 THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW YOU, MAY THEY SURRENDER THEIR 25:18 LIVES TO YOU AT THIS TIME I PRAY IN JESUS' NAME. 25:23 AMEN. 25:26 (MUSIC) 25:41 >>BILL: IF YOU ENJOYED RANDY'S PRESENTATION TODAY 25:42 ON OUR PROGRAM AND WOULD LIKE TO GET A COPY OF IT 25:44 ON DVD, WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU. IT IS A 25:49 GIFT FROM 'IT IS WRITTEN', FREE OF CHARGE. HERE'S THE 25:50 INFORMATION YOU NEED IN ORDER TO GET YOUR DVD. 26:56 >>BILL: WELL, RANDY, WE'VE COME TO THE END OF ANOTHER 26:57 PROGRAM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO 26:58 BE HERE AND TO SHARE THIS >>RANDY: YOU'RE WELCOME. 27:02 >>BILL: AND, YOU KNOW WHAT, AS YOU GATHER MORE 27:03 INFORMATION LET US KNOW AND WE'LL HAVE YOU BACK 27:05 ON. >>RANDY: SURE. >>BILL: THANK YOU. AND LET ME 27:07 THANK OUR VIEWERS THAT FAITHFULLY TUNE IN EVERY 27:08 WEEK. 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