Participants: Bill Santos
Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC201025
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00:01 >>BILL: ON TODAY'S 'IT IS WRITTEN' SHOW, "EVOLUTION:
00:02 FACT OR FICTION?" WITH OUR SPECIAL GUEST, RANDY 00:05 RUGGLES. I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN US. 'IT IS WRITTEN' 00:09 BEGINS RIGHT NOW. 00:12 (MUSIC) 00:21 >>ANNOUNCER: IT HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME. 00:24 GOD'S BOOK, THE BIBLE 00:27 STILL RELEVANT IN TODAY'S COMPLEX WORLD 00:32 IT IS WRITTEN 00:34 SHARING MESSAGES OF HOPE AROUND THE WORLD. 00:39 (MUSIC) 00:51 >>BILL: WELL, LET ME WELCOME OUR VIEWERS TO 00:52 THIS EPISODE OF 'IT IS WRITTEN' CANADA. LET ME 00:55 WELCOME MY SPECIAL GUEST, RANDY. WELCOME TO 'IT IS 00:59 WRITTEN', RANDY. >>RANDY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BILL. 01:01 THANKS FOR HAVING ME. 01:02 >>BILL: RANDY AND I MET IN NORTH BAY, I GUESS 01:03 OVER A YEAR AGO, I GUESS. 01:06 >>RANDY: ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF AGO. >>BILL: 01:07 AND IN THE COURSE OF OUR DISCUSSION I FOUND OUT 01:10 THAT YOU HAVE A PASSION FOR THIS DEBATE OF 01:14 EVOLUTION AGAINST CREATION. >>RANDY: 01:15 EXACTLY. >>BILL: YOU HAVE, IN FACT, WRITTEN A BOOK, 01:19 WE'RE GOING TO SHOW THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. AND I 01:22 KNOW YOU DO DIFFERENT TALKS IN THE COMMUNITY IN 01:23 DIFFERENT CHURCHES ON THIS TOPIC AND WE DECIDED TO 01:25 INVITE YOU. AND SO, THANK YOU. TELL OUR VIEWERS A 01:31 LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF. 01:32 >>RANDY. OKAY. MY NAME IS RANDY RUGGLES. I'M A 01:36 MARKETING CONSULTANT AND A JOURNALIST AND I'M NOT 01:37 A SCIENTIST. THE REASON I WROTE THIS BOOK WAS 01:40 BASICALLY JUST BECAUSE I FELT.I WAS COMING ACROSS 01:44 QUOTES FROM SCIENTISTS FROM SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE 01:45 THAT IN A LOT OF CASES WAS VERY SCATHING AGAINST 01:49 EVOLUTION AND I WAS JUST SHOCKED. I FOUND IT VERY 01:53 USEFUL FOR CHRISTIANS TO HELP DEFEND THE FAITH 01:54 AGAINST EVOLUTION. SO I JUST DECIDED TO COMPILE 01:58 THEM INTO A BOOK. >>BILL: WELL, THAT'S GREAT. WELL, 02:00 WE'RE VERY CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER 02:01 I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR MATERIAL 02:05 AND I FIND IT QUITE INTERESTING. >>RANDY: 02:07 OKAY. I'LL TELL YOU WHY I THINK THE SUBJECT IS 02:08 IMPORTANT. >>BILL: SURE. 02:11 >>RANDY: FIRST OF ALL, IN 2009, THAT WAS A BANNER 02:12 YEAR FOR CHARLES DARWIN AND EVOLUTION BECAUSE, 02:15 FIRST OF ALL, IT WAS 200 YEARS SINCE CHARLES 02:19 DARWIN'S BIRTH AND IT WAS 150 YEARS SINCE HE 02:20 PUBLISHED "ORIGINS OF THE SPECIES". SO THERE WERE A 02:23 LOT OF THINGS IN THE MEDIA ABOUT EVOLUTION AND WHAT I 02:26 FOUND IS THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE CONVINCED THAT 02:27 EVOLUTION IS TRUE BECAUSE THE MEDIA SUPPORTS IT. 02:31 AND SO IT JUST SEEMS TO BE .THEY JUST BELIEVE IT TO 02:35 BE TRUE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TOLD 02:36 >>BILL: THEN YOU'VE GOT GUYS RUNNING AROUND LIKE 02:38 RICHARD DAWKINS AND THOSE GUYS SAYING, YOU KNOW THAT 02:40 WHOEVER DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THIS IS A MORON, IS AN 02:41 IDIOT AND SO ON. >>RANDY: EXACTLY. WE'RE GOING 02:44 TO GET TO THAT. I HAVE A QUOTE FROM HIM, LATER, TO 02:46 SHARE WITH YOU. >>BILL: YEAH. >>RANDY: I DO LIKE 02:47 TO SAY, THOUGH, THAT CHARLES DARWIN IS NOT 02:49 THE ENEMY. I DO HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT HE DID WORK 02:53 FOR HIM BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT 02:54 WHEN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS I'M GOING TO 02:59 SHOW SOME OF THE EVIDENCES AGAINST EVOLUTION THAT 03:02 HAVE BEEN DISCREDITED AND YOU'LL SEE THAT 03:03 EVOLUTIONISTS DON'T HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON ALTHOUGH 03:06 THEY HOPE TO EVOLVE ONE >>BILL: (LAUGHTER) 03:10 >>RANDY: OKAY. SO, SO LET'S, FIRST OF ALL, 03:11 LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY THIS SUBJECT IS IMPORTANT TO 03:13 CHRISTIANS. >>BILL: SURE. 03:14 >>RANDY: 1PETER 3:15, SAYS THAT, "AS CHRISTIANS WE 03:16 SHOULD ALWAYS BE PREPARED TO GIVE AN ANSWER TO 03:20 EVERYONE WHO ASKS US TO GIVE THE REASON FOR THE 03:21 HOPE THAT WE HAVE". SO, WE'RE ACTUALLY CALLED TO 03:24 BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. SO WHEN 03:27 PEOPLE ASK US THINGS LIKE, WELL, 'YOU DON'T REALLY 03:28 BELIEVE IN THE ADAM AND EVE STORY, DO YOU? HASN'T 03:30 THAT BEEN PROVEN TO BE A MYTH?' OR, YOU KNOW, 'HOW 03:33 DID NOAH GET ALL THE ANIMALS ON THE ARK?' AND 03:34 'WHERE DID CAIN GET HIS WIFE?' QUESTIONS LIKE 03:36 THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN. BUT 03:39 THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF EVOLUTION THAT ARE TRUE 03:40 AND THAT'S WHAT I HOPE TO CLARIFY. CERTAIN PARTS ARE 03:44 TRUE, CERTAIN PARTS ARE NOT TRUE. >>BILL: OKAY. 03:48 >>RANDY: FIRST OF ALL LET'S DEFINE WHAT 03:49 EVOLUTION IS. >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: IN ITS 03:51 BASIC SENSE, EVOLUTION IS JUST CHANGE OVER TIME. SO, 03:55 YOU HEAR THAT WORD BAND..ALL THE TIME. THAT 03:56 EVOLUTION JUST MEANS CHANGE OVER TIME. BUT WHEN 04:00 A SCIENTIST TALKS ABOUT EVOLUTION IT'S NOT REALLY 04:02 WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT THEY'RE REALLY 04:03 REFERRING TO IS THE THEORY OF, BASICALLY, MOLECULES 04:05 TO MAN AND THAT EVERYTHING HAS A COMMON ANCESTOR AND 04:10 ONE WAY THAT I LIKE TO PUT IT IS 'FROM GOO TO YOU BY 04:11 WAY OF THE ZOO'. >>BILL: (LAUGHTER) >>RANDY: 04:16 KIND OF A FUNNY WAY TO PUT THAT. NOW, HERE'S AN 04:18 ACTUALLY DEFINITION FROM A SCIENCE TEXT BOOK THAT 04:19 SAYS, "THE CENTRAL IDEA OF BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION 04:23 IS THAT ALL LIFE ON EARTH SHARES A COMMON ANCESTOR, 04:27 JUST AS YOU AND YOUR COUSINS SHARE A COMMON 04:28 GRANDMOTHER. EVOLUTION MEANS THAT WE'RE 04:30 ALL DISTANT COUSINS. 04:31 HUMANS AND OAK TREES, HUMMINGBIRDS AND WHALES. 04:33 SO WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT APES AND HUMANS 04:36 HERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERY LIFE FORM ON EARTH 04:37 INCLUDING OAK TREES, WHALES, HUMANS, EVERYTHING 04:40 IS INTER-RELATED. THAT'S WHAT EVOLUTION PROPOSES. 04:43 >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: N IT'S REALLY EASY FOR YOU 04:44 TO REMEMBER - IF YOU CAN REMEMBER THE ACRONYM 04:46 "FARM", THIS IS THE ORDER THAT THEY BELIEVE 04:51 EVOLUTUION HAPPENED IN, IS FISH, AMPHIBIANS, 04:52 REPTILES, MAMMALS. SO, JUST THE ACRONYM 'FARM' 04:54 IS AN EASY WAY TO REMEMBER HOW EVOLUTIONISTS CLAIM 04:55 THAT IT HAPPENED. NOW, THE BIBLE, IF YOU LOOK AT 04:56 GENESIS 1:24 SAYS, "THEN GOD SAID LET THE EARTH 05:01 BRING FORTH THE LIVING CREATURE ACCORDING TO ITS 05:05 KIND, CATTLE AND CREEPING THING AND BEASTS OF THE 05:06 EARTH EACH ACCORDING TO ITS KIND AND IT WAS 05:09 SO." I BELIEVE TEN TIMES THROUGHOUT GENESIS GOD 05:12 SAYS THAT ANIMALS AND ORGANISMS WILL BRING FORTH 05:14 AFTER THEIR KIND. SO, THAT IS DIRECTLY CONTRADICTORY 05:19 TO WHAT EVOLUTION TEACHES SO, WE'RE GOING TO GO 05:25 THROUGH A COUPLE OF QUICK QUOTES AND ONE THAT YOU 05:26 JUST REFERRED TO HERE BY RICHARD DAWKINS - DOESN'T 05:28 HE LOOK LIKE A HAPPY GUY TO BE AN ATHEIST. >>BILL: 05:33 (LAUGHTER) >>RANDY: NOW, HE SAYS, 'IT'S ABSOLUTELY 05:34 SAFE TO SAY THAT IF YOU MEET SOMEBODY WHO 05:35 CLAIMS TO NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION THAT PERSON IS 05:37 IGNORANT, STUPID, OR INSANE OR WICKED BUT I'D 05:38 RATHER NOT CONSIDER THAT.' THEN ANOTHER VERY FAMOUS 05:42 QUOTE BY ANOTHER FAMOUS EVOLUTIONIST BY THE NAME 05:47 OF THEODOSIUS DOBZHANSKY SAYS, 'NOTHING IN BIOLOGY 05:48 MAKES SENSE EXCEPT IN THE LIGHT OF EVOLUTION.' 05:51 SO THEY ARE CLAIMING EVOLUTION IS A FACT AND IF 05:54 ANYBODY QUESTIONS IT.>>BILL: THEY'RE 05:55 JUST INSANE AND MORONS. 05:56 >>RANDY: YEAH. NOW, HERE'S KIND OF A CONTRADICTORY 05:58 QUOTE, 'EVOLUTION IS A FAIRY TALE FOR GROWN-UPS. 06:02 THIS THEORY HAS HELPED NOTHING IN THE PROGRESS OF 06:06 SCIENCE, IT IS USELESS.' YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, 06:07 BILL, I POINT OUT THAT WHEN I WAS IN GRADE SCHOOL 06:10 THEY USED TO TELL US THE STORY THAT IF YOU TOOK A 06:14 FROG AND ADDED THE MAGIC INGREDIENT OF A KISS YOU 06:15 COULD TURN A FROG INTO A PRINCE AND THEY CALLED IT 06:18 A 'FAIRY TALE'. NOW WHEN I GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL THEY 06:22 SAID IF YOU TOOK THE SAME FROG AND ADDED THE MAGIC 06:23 INGREDIENT OF TIME YOU COULD STILL TURN THE FROG 06:25 INTO A PRINCE AND THEY CALLED IT 'EVOLUTION'. 06:29 NOW, HERE'S A QUOTE FROM CHARLES DARWIN HIMSELF, 06:30 WHO SAID, 'OFTEN A COLD SHUDDER HAS RUN THROUGH 06:34 ME AND I'VE ASKED MYSELF WHETHER I HAVE NOT DEVOTED 06:36 MYSELF TO A FANTASY'. SO, HE CERTAINLY HAD A LOT OF 06:37 DOUBTS ABOUT WHAT HE WAS PROPOSING AT TIMES. NOW, 06:41 WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS QUICKLY COVER WHAT DARWIN 06:45 ACTUALLY UNCOVERED WHEN - DARWIN DID NOT DISCOVER 06:46 EVOLUTION. IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE ANCIENT 06:51 GREEKS, IN FACT, BEFORE CHRIST. BUT WHAT HE 06:53 DISCOVERED WAS A MECHANISM FOR EVOLUTION CALLED 06:55 NATURAL SELECTION. AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG 06:58 WITH NATURAL SELECTION, CREATIONISTS DO NOT OBJECT 07:00 TO NATURAL SELECTION, THAT'S 100% FACT. AND 07:01 I JUST WANT TO TAKE YOU QUICKLY THROUGH.>>BILL: 07:03 SURE. >>RANDY:.WHAT NATURAL SELECTION IS. WE 07:05 OBSERVE IN NATURE THAT MOST SPECIES PRODUCE 07:06 MORE OFFSPRING THAN CAN SURVIVE. WE HAPPEN TO 07:09 HAVE A RABBIT AT HOME, BY THE WAY, SO, WE KNOW THAT 07:12 RABBITS REPRODUCE VERY QUICKLY BUT WE'RE NOT 07:13 OVERRUN WITH RABBITS, ARE WE? >>BILL: NO. >>RANDY: 07:17 AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE NOT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE 07:20 TO COMPETE FOR RESOURCES OUT THERE. THEY HAVE 07:21 TO COMPETE FOR MATING PARTNERS; THEY HAVE TO 07:22 COMPETE FOR FOOD, SHELTER, ALL KINDS OF THINGS LIKE 07:26 THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST 07:27 FITTEST TO SURVIVE, TO PASS ON THEIR GENES, LONG 07:30 ENOUGH TO REPRODUCE ARE THE ONES THAT SURVIVE. SO 07:36 - AND THEN THE OTHER ONES DIE OFF. SO, THE ONES THAT 07:37 ARE FIT ENOUGH TO SURVIVE ARE THE ONES THAT PASS ON 07:43 THEIR GENES. SO, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT 07:46 BEING FIT ENOUGH TO LIVE TO OLD AGE, WE'RE JUST 07:48 TALKING ABOUT BEING FIT ENOUGH TO SURVIVE LONG 07:50 ENOUGH TO PASS ON YOUR GENES. >>BILL: OKAY. 07:53 >>RANDY: NOW, ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS 100% FACT 07:55 CREATIONISTS HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH NATURAL 07:57 SELECTION. NOW, CHARLES DARWIN SAID IN 'ORIGIN OF 08:02 THE SPECIES', "THUS FROM THE WAR OF NATURE, FROM 08:03 FAMINE AND DEATH, THE MOST EXALTED OBJECTS WHICH WE 08:06 ARE CAPABLE OF CONCEIVING, NAMELY THE PRODUCTION OF 08:10 THE HIGHER ANIMALS, DIRECTLY FOLLOWS". SO, IN 08:11 EVOLUTION, DEATH IS HOW YOU GET AHEAD. WHEREAS 08:13 WHAT THE BIBLES TELLS IN 1CORINTHIANS 15:26 IS 08:17 THAT, "THE LAST ENEMY TO BE DESTROYED IS DEATH" 08:18 >>BILL: YES. >>RANDY: SIN BROUGHT DEATH INTO THE 08:23 WORLD. >>BILL: YES. DEATH IS ALWAYS POSITIONED AS AN 08:25 ENEMY IN SCRIPTURE. 08:26 >>RANDY: EXACTLY. AND SO, WHAT WE FIND WITH 08:29 EVOLUTION, ONCE AGAIN, IS THAT IF YOU BELIEVE IN 08:30 EVOLUTION DEATH BROUGHT MAN INTO THE WORLD. 08:34 WHEREAS THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT MAN BROUGHT DEATH 08:37 INTO THE WORLD THROUGH HIS SIN. SO, HERE'S ANOTHER 08:38 THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. THE DIFFERENCES 08:43 BETWEEN MICRO-EVOLUTION AND MACRO-EVOLUTION. 08:47 >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE 08:48 MOST IMPORTANT THING I'LL MENTION TODAY. 08:50 AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT MICRO-EVOLUTION JUST MEANS 08:53 VARIATIONS WITHIN THE KINDS OF ANIMALS THAT WE 08:54 SEE, IN THE MANY DIFFERENT VARIETIES OF DOGS THAT WE 08:59 SEE. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL SAY, HOW CAN YOU 09:03 DISAGREE WITH EVOLUTION? 09:04 WE SEE IT. THERE ARE 250 DIFFERENT KINDS OR BREEDS 09:06 OF DOGS. YOU CAN GET A BIG DOG OR A LITTLE DOG BUT 09:07 THEY'RE STILL A DOG AND THEY CAN STILL 09:11 INTER-BREED. WHAT WE OBJECT TO IS THEN TAKING 09:15 THAT KIND OF PROCESS AND EXTRAPALATING IT OVER 09:16 TIME, WHICH NO ONE HAS OBSERVED, TO THEN SAY 09:19 THAT EVERYTHING ON EARTH IS THEN RELATED. AND SO, 09:23 THOSE BIG CHANGES ABOVE THE SPECIES LEVEL 09:24 ARE WHAT IS KNOWN AS MACRO-EVOLUTION AND THAT 09:28 IS WHAT CREATIONISTS DISAGREE WITH. >>BILL: 09:30 OKAY. >>RANDY: SO THAT'S THE WHOLE CRUX OF THE 09:31 ISSUE RIGHT THERE. IF YOU CAN GET A HANDLE ON 09:33 MICRO-EVOLUTION AND MACRO-EVOLUTION, BIG 09:35 CHANGES VERSUS SMALL CHANGES. >>BILL: OKAY. 09:36 >>RANDY: NOW, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE IS 09:38 GO QUICKLY THROUGH WHAT I CALL 'FIVE FALLEN ICONS OF 09:40 EVOLUTION'. THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN USED 09:41 IN THE PAST AND ARE IN SOME CASES STILL BEING 09:43 USED TO PROP UP THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION AND IN MANY 09:46 CASES THEY'VE BEEN DISCREDITED AND IN ONE 09:47 CASE, AS I WILL SHOW YOU, OVER A 100 YEARS AGO. AND 09:51 YET, IT'S STILL USED TODAY IN TEXTBOOKS. THE FIRST 09:55 ONE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU QUICKLY ABOUT IS 'PEPPERED 09:57 MOTH'. ARE AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF EVOLUTION. IF 10:00 YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING THERE YOU WILL SEE THERE 10:04 ARE TWO TYPES OF MOTHS. 10:06 A LIGHT COLOURED MOTH AND A DARK COLOURED MOTH. AND 10:07 BACK IN THE 1850'S A SCIENTIST NAMED, BERNARD 10:08 KETTLEWELL STUDIED THESE MOTHS AND HE NOTICED THAT 10:12 THE LIGHT COLOURED MOTHS, WHEN - THEY WERE BURNING 10:16 COAL IN THE FACTORIES AND THEY WERE TURNING THE 10:17 TREES DARK COLOURED AND THEY WOULD FIND THAT THE 10:22 LIGHT COLOURED MOTHS WOULD GET PICKED OFF BY THE 10:24 BIRDS. AND SO, THERE WAS A SHIFT IN THE POPULATION 10:26 OF MOTHS FROM 98% LIGHT TO 98% DARK BECAUSE THE 10:30 DARK MOTHS WERE CONCEALED, CAMOFLAUGED. >>BILL: SURE. 10:35 >>RANDY: NOW, HERE'S THE INTERESTING PART OF ALL 10:36 OF THIS. THEY TOUT THIS AS BEING NATURAL SELECTION IN 10:38 ACTION. THIS IS EVOLUTION IN ACTION. IT'S IN ALL THE 10:41 TEXTBOOKS. THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT THE WHOLE 10:42 STORY NEVER HAPPENED. 10:44 KETTLEWELL GLUED DEAD MOTHS TO THE TREES TO TAKE 10:45 THE PICTURES THAT APPEAR IN YOUR SCHOOLS SCIENCE 10:48 TEXTBOOKS; IT DEMONSTRATES NATURAL SELECTION BUT NOT 10:51 EVOLUTION; AND HERE'S A QUOTE THAT SAYS, 'I'M 10:52 CAREFUL NOT TO CALL KETTLEWELL A FRAUD, SAYS 10:56 BRUCE GRANT. HE WAS JUST A VERY CARELESS SCIENTIST'. 11:01 NOW, WE'LL GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE. WE'RE JUST 11:02 GOING THROUGH THESE VERY QUICKLY. >>BILL: SURE. 11:05 >>RANDY: 'SIMILAR BONE STRUCTURES IN MAMMALS 11:09 PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR COMMON ANCESTRY.' WHAT 11:10 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS IF YOU LOOK AT 11:12 DIFFERENT MAMMALS, YOU HAVE A HUMAN, A CAT, A 11:14 WHALE, AND A BAT, THEY ALL HAVE ONE BONE UP HERE, 11:15 TWO BONES HERE, AND IT SEPARATES INTO FIVE 11:19 FLANGES, IT'S KNOWN AS, AND THEY SAY, WELL, IF ALL 11:23 MAMMALS ARE BASED ON THE SAME BODY PLAN AS THAT 11:24 DOESN'T THAT PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR COMMON 11:26 ANCESTRY. AND I SAY, WELL, IT COULD BUT WE USE - IF 11:29 YOU STUDIED ALL THE BRIDGES IN THE WORLD YOU 11:30 WOULD PROBABLY FIND THAT THERE WERE MANY DIFFERENT 11:32 OR MANY SIMILARITIES TO THE BRIDGES.>>BILL: SURE. 11:37 >>RANDY:.AND THAT'S BECAUSE BRIDGES ARE 11:38 DESIGNED - IT'S EVIDENCE FOR DESIGN, IT'S NOT 11:42 NECESSARILY EVIDENCE FOR A RANDOM PROCESS LIKE 11:44 EVOLUTION. >>BILL: RIGHT. IF THAT'S THE BEST 11:45 STRUCTURE THEN THAT'S WHAT WILL BE THERE. YES. 11:46 >>RANDY: YES. SO YOU WOULD FIND A MYRIAD OF 11:48 SIMILARITIES IN BRIDGE STRUCTURES ACROSS THE 11:49 WORLD. ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS WHEELS. WE USE 11:53 WHEELS ON EVERYTHING FROM CARS, BICYCLES, AIRPLANES, 11:56 UNICYCLES, WHEELBARROWS, SKATEBOARDS, THINGS LIKE 11:57 THAT AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHEELS ARE A GOOD DESIGN. 12:04 YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE EVIDENCES THAT THEY USE 12:07 FOR DESIGN ARE ACTUALLY OR THEY DON'T SEE THEM AS 12:08 EVIDENCE FOR DESIGN. THEY SEE THEM AS EVIDENCE 12:11 OF EVOLUTION OF COMMON ANCESTRY BUT THEY COULD 12:14 JUST AS EASILY BE SEEN AS EVIDENCE FOR DESIGN 12:15 >>BILL: DESIGN. SURE. 12:17 >>RANDY: CLAIM NUMBER THREE: 'VESTIGIAL ORGANS'. 12:18 AND I JUST NEED TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS. VESTIGIAL 12:21 MEANS THAT YOU DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE. THEY BELIEVE 12:24 THAT IT'S SOMETHING IN YOUR BODY THAT SERVES NO 12:25 PURPOSE ANY LONGER. IT'S LEFT OVER FROM 12:28 YOUR EVOLUTIONARY HERITAGE >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: AND 12:31 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD MY ENTIRE LIFE, 12:33 ACTUALLY, WAS THAT YOU DON'T NEED YOUR APPENDIX. 12:35 >>BILL: OKAY. >>RANDY: AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THAT 12:37 TOO. >>BILL: YES. >>RANDY: WE ALWAYS HEAR THAT THE 12:38 APPENDIX IS A LEFT OVER ORGAN FROM WHEN WE USED TO 12:41 BE SOMETHING ELSE, MAYBE AN APE OR SOMETHING AND 12:45 THAT WE DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE. BUT ACTUALLY, IF 12:46 YOU LOOK AT SOME QUOTES HERE - ONE OF THEM THAT 12:48 I HAVE HERE FROM 1947, THERE IS NO LONGER ANY 12:52 JUSTIFICATION FOR REGARDING THE VERMIFORM 12:53 APPENDIX AS A VESTIGIAL ORGAN'. THEY'VE KNOWN 12:56 THAT SINCE, AT LEAST, 1947 "LONG REGARDED AS A 13:00 VESTIGIAL ORGAN WITH NO FUNCTION IN THE HUMAN 13:01 BODY, THE APPENDIX IS NOW THOUGHT TO BE ONE 13:04 OF THE SITES WHERE IMMUNE RESPONSES ARE INITIATED". 13:07 I TALKED TO A DOCTOR FRIEND OF MINE WHO SAID 13:08 THAT IF YOU REMOVE YOUR APPENDIX, YOU ACTUALLY 13:09 SHORTEN YOUR LIFE SPAN BY ABOUT FIVE YEARS. AND SO, 13:13 YOU HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF GETTING MANY 13:14 MORE DISEASES.>>BILL: COMPROMISES YOUR IMMUNE 13:16 SYSTEM. >>RANDY: YEAH. 13:17 EXACTLY. AND OVER 100 YEARS AGO THERE WAS A LIST 13:20 COMPILED OF 180 VESTIGIAL STRUCTURES IN THE HUMAN 13:24 BODY. TODAY WE'VE DISCOVERED BIOLOGICAL 13:25 FUNCTIONS FOR NEARLY EVERY ONE OF THEM. SO, THE 13:28 TREND IS THAT, BASICALLY, THE WAY I SEE IT, IS JUST 13:31 BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT DOES DOESN'T 13:32 MEAN IT DOESN'T SERVE A PURPOSE. AND THEN ANOTHER 13:34 ARGUMENT THAT I HEAR IS THAT, WELL, YOU CAN LIVE 13:38 WITHOUT IT. WELL, YOU CAN LIVE WITHOUT BOTH YOUR 13:39 ARMS AND BOTH YOUR EYES AND BOTH YOUR LEGS TOO BUT 13:41 IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T SERVE A PURPOSE. >>BILL: 13:43 OF COURSE. >>RANDY: THESE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN 13:44 DEFEND THE FAITH, BY USING SOME OF THESE ARGUMENTS. 13:48 THEY HAVE ARGUMENTS FOR THEIR BELIEFS, WE HAVE 13:51 ARGUMENTS FOR OURS. CLAIM NUMBER FOUR: WHAT ABOUT 13:52 ALL THOSE FOSSILS OF CAVEMEN? DON'T THEY PROVE 13:55 WE EVOLVE FROM APES? WE'VE ALL SEEN DRAWINGS LIKE THE 13:59 NEXT ONE THAT SHOWS THE PROGRESSION.>>BILL: YES. 14:00 >>RANDY:.SUPPOSEDLY FROM APE TO MAN AND IT'S A 14:04 DRAWING. KEEP IN MIND THAT IT IS A DRAWING AND IT IS 14:07 NOT EVIDENCE. NOW, THEY DO FIND FOSSILS IN THE DIRT 14:08 AND WHAT DO THEY FIND? 14:12 HERE'S - WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH TWO QUICK 14:13 EXAMPLES. NEBRASKA MAN WAS FOUND AND WAS 14:17 RECONSTRUCTED FROM THE TOOTH OF AN EXTINCT PIG. 14:21 IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DRAWING THEY WERE ABLE TO 14:22 DRAW THE MAN - YOU'VE GOT TO BE REALLY GOOD TO KNOW 14:25 WHAT HIS WIFE LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE AND 14:28 WHAT THE BACKGROUND LOOKS LIKE AND EVERYTHING, BY 14:29 A TOOTH. THAT'S ALL THEY FOUND. WHICH TURNED OUT 14:33 TO BE NOT EVEN HUMAN AT ALL IT TURNED OUT TO BE A 14:35 TOOTH FROM AN EXTINCT PIG. SO, IF YOU LOOK, THIS 14:36 IS THE REAL NEBRASKA MAN. 14:38 >>BILL: THERE YOU GO. 14:39 >>RANDY: OKAY. SO, AND ONE OTHER EXAMPLE WAS 14:42 PILT-DOWN MAN. THIS WAS ACTUALLY A FORGERY THAT 14:43 WAS IN THE TEXTBOOKS FOR OVER FORTY YEARS. SOMEONE 14:46 TOOK AN APES JAW AND A HUMAN SKULL AND THEY TOOK 14:50 THE APES JAW AND THEY FILED THE TEETH DOWN, THEY 14:51 BOILED THE SKULL TO MAKE IT LOOK OLD. SOAKED IT IN 14:54 BLEACH OR SOMETHING, THREW IT IN A GRAVEL PIT AND DUG 14:57 IT UP AND SAID HERE, WE FOUND A MISSING LINK. 14:58 IT TURNED OUT, IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 10,000 15:02 PAPERS WERE WRITTEN ON IT AND IT TURNED OUT FORTY 15:05 YEARS LATER IT WAS A FORGERY. BUT, THAT SHOWS 15:06 TO ME THAT THEY REALLY HAVE A DESIRE TO FIND 15:09 EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION EVEN IF.>>BILL: EVEN IF 15:13 YOU HAVE TO FABRICATE IT. 15:15 >>RANDY: YEAH. EVEN IF IT MEANS FABRICATING IT. AND 15:18 WHY WASN'T IT DISCOVERED FOR FORTY YEARS. OBVIOUSLY 15:19 THEY WEREN'T CHECKING INTO THIS EVIDENCE BECAUSE THEY 15:21 WANTED TO BELIEVE IN IT SO MUCH. I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE 15:25 THAT EVOLUTION IS STRONGLY BASED ON FAITH AND THAT 15:26 CHRISTIANITY AND THE BIBLE HAS A LOT OF EVIDENCE 15:30 FOR IT. I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE EVIDENCE FOR 15:33 OUR FAITH. >>BILL: SURE. 15:34 >>RANDY: HERE'S A QUICK QUOTE FROM DR. GARETH 15:37 NELSON FROM THE AMERICAN MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY 15:38 AND HE SAYS, 'WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME ANCESTORS. WE'LL 15:41 PICK THOSE. WHY? BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE 15:44 THERE AND THESE ARE THE BEST CANDIDATES. THAT'S BY 15:45 AND LARGE THE WAY IT HAS WORKED. I AM NOT 15:47 EXAGGERATING'. SO, HE'S JUST SAYING, THEY HAVE 15:49 THESE BONES, THEY'LL SAY THESE MUST BE A MISSING 15:50 LINK. AND SO, IT'S NOT REALLY A SOLID SCIENCE 15:54 THE WAY WE SEEM TO BE TOLD THAT IT IS. THE LAST CLAIM 15:58 THAT I'M GOING TO LOOK AT IS 'SIMILARITIES IN THE 15:59 EARLY STAGES OF MAMMALIAN EMBRYOS SUPPORTS COMMON 16:03 ANCESTRY'. THIS IS ONE THAT HAPPENS TO UPSET ME 16:07 QUITE A BIT AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. IF YOU LOOK AT 16:08 ERNEST HEKEL, WHO WAS A GERMAN BIOLOGIST, HE DREW 16:12 SOME DRAWINGS, HE WAS AN EMBRYOLOGIST, AND HE DREW 16:16 SOME DRAWINGS OF SOME EMBRYOS, MAMMALIAN EMBRYOS 16:17 IN THEIR EARLY STAGES. AND HE WAS NOTING HOW THEY 16:22 LOOKED SIMILAR. AND HE TRAVELLED ALL ACROSS 16:25 GERMANY WITH HIS CHARTS AND ALMOST SINGLE-HANDEDLY 16:26 CONVERTED GERMANY OVER INTO BELIEVING IN 16:28 EVOLUTION. WHAT IT TURNED OUT WAS THAT EVEN IN HIS 16:32 OWN LIFE TIME , IN 1874, IT WAS FOUND OUT THAT HE 16:33 FAKED HIS DRAWINGS. IT WAS FRAUDULENT. HE MADE THEM 16:38 LOOK MORE SIMILAR THAN THEY REALLY WERE SO IT 16:41 REALLY WASN'T EVIDENCE FOR HIM AT ALL. WE CAN SEE 16:42 WHAT HIS DRAWINGS WERE AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO THE 16:46 NEXT SLIDE - OH, BY THE WAY, I SHOULD MENTION THAT 16:50 CHARLES DARWIN, HIMSELF, THOUGHT THAT EMBRYOLOGY 16:51 WAS ONE OF THE SINGLE STRONGEST CLASS OF FACTS 16:53 THAT HE HAD IN FAVOUR OF HIS THEORY. AND YET WE SEE 16:58 THAT EVEN IN HEKEL'S OWN LIFE TIME WAS DISCREDITED, 16:59 IF WE LOOK AT THE CHART THERE WHERE ON THE TOP 17:04 ROW IT SHOWS THE, HEKEL'S FAKED FRAUDULENT DRAWINGS 17:08 AND THEN PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE ACTUAL EMBRYOS. SO, WE 17:10 KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE TODAY. >>BILL: OKAY. 17:12 >>RANDY: THEY LOOK NOTHING ALIKE. HE'S EITHER A 17:14 REALLY POOR ARTIST OR A LIAR. AND HE WAS FOUND 17:15 OUT TO BE, IN HIS OWN LIFE TIME, TO BE LYING. AND 17:18 WHY THAT MAKES ME MAD, IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, 17:24 EVOLUTION HAS BEEN USED, OR THAT THEORY HAS 17:25 BEEN USED IN SUPPORT OF ABORTION. THEY'LL SAY, 17:29 WELL, IT'S NOT - THEY'LL TELL THE YOUNG GIRLS, YOU 17:32 KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY HUMAN YET, IT'S JUST GOING 17:33 THROUGH THE FISH STAGE. SO IT'S OKAY TO KILL IT 17:36 BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY 17:39 IN THE HUMAN STAGE YET. THEY BELIEVE IT'S 17:40 GOING THROUGH THE FISH, AMPHIBIAN, REPTILE, 17:43 MAMMAL STAGE. AND JUST AS AN ASIDE HERE, THERE IS A 17:45 PROFESSOR OF BIOETHICS AT PRINCETON UNIVERSITY, 17:46 PETER SINGER, WHO WANTS TO LEGALIZE ABORTIONS UP TO 17:49 28 DAYS AFTER THE BIRTH OF A CHILD. YEAH. I SAID 17:54 AFTER THE BIRTH OF A CHILD. HE THINKS IT'S OKAY 17:55 FOR A PARENT TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE A TRIAL 18:00 PERIOD. YOU HAVE A CHILD FOR FOUR WEEKS AND IF 18:03 YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT, YOU JUST KILL IT. AND SO, 18:04 THIS IS WHAT EVOLUTIONARY THINKING LEADS TO. AND, 18:08 OF COURSE, ADOLF HITLER GROWING UP IN GERMANY 18:12 WOULD HAVE LEARNED THIS THEORY AND IT'S CALLED 18:13 RECAPITULATION THEORY. 18:16 THAT THE WHOLE IDEA - WHAT HEKEL ACTUALLY CAME 18:17 UP WITH WAS THAT YOU WERE RETRACING YOUR 18:21 EVOLUTIONARY HERITAGE LIKE WHAT I MENTIONED 18:23 YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A FISH, AMPHIBIAN, REPTILE, 18:24 MAMMAL STAGE. >>BILL: SO, EVERY PERSON, EVERY CHILD 18:26 THAT DEVELOPS IS GOING THROUGH THOSE STAGES. 18:30 >>RANDY: YES. I'VE GOT A QUOTE HERE THAT SAYS, 18:31 "ADOLPH HITLER HAS CONSCIENCELY SOUGHT TO 18:35 MAKE THE PRACTICE OF GERMAN CONFORM TO THE 18:38 THEORY OF EVOLUTION. 18:39 HE WAS TRYING TO BREED THE MASTER RACE BECAUSE HE WAS 18:41 RAISED BELIEVING IN EVOLUTION AND BELIEVING 18:42 IN THIS THEORY OF ERNEST HEKEL WHICH HAS BEEN 18:44 DISCREDITED FOR OVER 100 YEARS. NOW, WHY DO SO MANY 18:48 PEOPLE BELIEVE EVOLUTION IS TRUE? I MENTIONED 18:49 BEFORE THAT I BELIEVE MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE IT BECAUSE 18:54 - MOST INTELLIGENT PEOPLE BELIEVE EVOLUTION IS TRUE 18:57 BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THAT MOST INTELLIGENT 18:58 PEOPLE BELIEVE EVOLUTION IS TRUE. >>BILL: RIGHT. 19:00 >>RANDY: SO, PEOPLE WANT TO BE PART OF THE CROWD. 19:02 THEY WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY THINK THE SMART 19:04 PEOPLE BELIEVE. BUT 200 YEARS AGO - SO THAT IS 19:06 THE REASON IS WHY I THINK MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE IN 19:11 EVOLUTION. JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN 19:12 TOLD. >>BILL: RIGHT. 19:14 >>RANDY: BUT THERE IS ANOTHER REASON AND ONE OF 19:15 THE MAIN REASONS IS PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT THERE TO 19:17 BE A GOD. ATHEISM. TWO HUNDRED YEARS AGO THEY 19:19 WERE DOING EXPERIENTS ON WHAT IS KNOWN AS 19:20 SPONTANEOUS GENERATION. 19:25 AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS IS THAT THEY BELIEVED THAT 19:26 IF YOU THREW SOME RICE AND SOME SMELLY RAGS IN THE 19:30 CORNER AND LEFT IT FOR A FEW DAYS YOU COULD MOVE 19:34 THE RAGS AND THERE WOULD BE SOME MICE THERE. AND 19:35 THEY WOULD THINK, OH WOW, THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE MICE 19:38 FROM SCRATCH. THEY THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS THE RECIPE 19:40 TO MAKE MICE. YOU KNOW, RAGS PLUS RICE.>>BILL 19:41 EQUALS MICE. >>RANDY: EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHAT 19:45 SPONTANEOUS GENERATION IS THE PERSON, WHO DISPROVED 19:48 THAT, AMONG OTHERS, IS LOUIS PASTEUR. 19:49 YOU'VE HEARD OF LOUIS PASTEUR.>>BILL: YES. 19:52 >>RANDY:.FOR PASTURIZING YOUR MILK. AND THAT LOUIS 19:54 PASTEUR DID A VERY SIMPLE EXPERIMENT, WHICH I WON'T 19:55 GO INTO DETAILS OF, BUT HE SAID, 'NEVER WILL THE 19:58 DOCTRINE OF SPONTANEOUS GENERATION RECOVER FROM 20:00 THE MORTAL BLOW STRUCK BY THIS SIMPLE EXPERIMENT' 20:01 BUT IF YOU'RE AN EVOLUTIONIST AND YOU'RE 20:04 TRYING TO BELIEVE THAT GOD DID NOT START THE PROCESS 20:08 THEN YOU MUST STILL BELIEVE IN SPONTANEOUS 20:09 GENERATION. AND THIS IS WHY I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU 20:13 THIS QUOTE THAT I THINK IS VERY, VERY ENLIGHTNENING. 20:18 THERE IS A MAN NAMED GEORGE WALD WHO HAPPENS 20:19 TO HAVE PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO BUT I'M GOING 20:22 TO READ A QUOTE FROM HIM, THAT'S IN MY BOOK AND I 20:25 SHOW IT QUITE OFTEN AS BEING PROBABLY MY 20:26 FAVOURITE QUOTE FROM THE ENTIRE BOO( HE SAYS, 20:28 "THERE ARE ONLY TWO POSSIBILITIES AS TO HOW 20:31 LIFE AROSE. ONE IS SPONTANEOUS GENERATION 20:32 ARISING TO EVOLUTION. THE OTHER IS A SUPERNATURAL 20:36 CREATIVE ACT OF GOD. THERE IS NO THIRD POSSIBILITY". 20:40 NOW, SO FAR I AGREE WITH HIM BUT THEN HE GOES 20:41 ON TO SAY, "SPONTANEOUS GENERATION, THAT LIFE 20:44 AROSE FROM NON-LIVING MATTER WAS SCIENTIFICALLY 20:46 DISPROVED 120 YEARS AGO BY LOUIS PASTEUR AND OTHERS 20:47 THAT LEAVES US WITH THE ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION 20:51 THAT LIFE AROSE FROM A SUPERNATURAL CREATIVE ACT 20:54 OF GOD". SO FAR I STILL AGREE WITH HIM. >>BILL: 20:55 SURE. >>RANDY: BUT THIS WHERE THINGS GET A LITTLE 20:58 CRAZY. LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID AFTER THAT. HE SAYS, 21:00 - AND THIS WAS IN SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN 21:01 MAGAZINE IN 1954 - HE SAID, "I WILL NOT ACCEPT 21:04 THAT, PHILOSOPHICALLY, BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO 21:06 BELIEVE IN GOD. THEREFORE, I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE 21:07 IN THAT WHICH I KNOW, IS SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. 21:11 SPONTANEOUS GENERATION ARISING TO EVOLUTION". SO 21:17 HERE I TELL YOU, BILL, WE HAVE A NOBEL PRIZE WINNING 21:18 SCIENTIST, NOBEL PRIZE WINNING FOR MEDICINE, 21:21 SAYING I DON'T, I'M CHOOSING TO BELIEVE IN 21:26 SOMETHING.>>BILL: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. >>RANDY:.I 21:27 KNOW IS IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THERE TO 21:29 BE A GOD. I DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IN GOD. AND I SAY, 21:33 YOU CAN'T SAY IT MORE PLAINER, ANY PLAINER THAN 21:34 THAT. THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT, PEOPLE WHO DON'T 21:37 BELIEVE IN GOD ARE WILLINGLY IGNORANT. IT 21:41 SAYS, 'THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD' 21:42 IN PSALMS 14:1 AND 53:1. 21:45 IT'S REPEATED TWICE SO I THINK SOMEBODY, GOD, 21:46 THINKS THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT VERSE. IT'S 21:52 ACTUALLY REPEATED TWICE "THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS 21:55 HEART THERE IS NO GOD." 21:56 >>BILL: WOW, THAT'S - BOY, YOU WHIPPED THROUGH THAT 21:59 QUITE - WITHIN THE TIME FRAME WE HAD. WE HAVE A 22:00 LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME. 22:06 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU BACK ON ANOTHER 22:07 PROGRAM.>>RANDY: SURE. 22:09 >>BILL:.TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. HOW LONG DID 22:10 IT TAKE YOU TO, SORT OF, PULL THIS ALL TOGETHER? 22:14 >>RANDY: IT WAS ABOUT THREE YEARS OF RESEARCH 22:16 AND IT WAS, BASICALLY, FINDING QUOTES THAT.FROM 22:17 THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE AND ELSEWHERE. I WAS JUST 22:21 SHOCKED BECAUSE I HAD NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE 22:24 THIS BEFORE. >>BILL: YES. 22:26 >>RANDY: YOU KNOW, GROWING UP BEFORE, IN HIGH SCHOOL 22:29 YOU HEAR THAT EVOLUTION IS A PROVEN FACT AND THE 22:30 MEDIA SEEMS TO TREAT IT AS SUCH AND .IT WAS WHEN 22:33 I HEARD OTHER SCIENTISTS MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT THIS 22:37 I THOUGHT - MY ORIGINAL GOAL WAS ACTUALLY TO MAKE 22:38 JUST A LITTLE BROCHURE WITH SOME OF THE QUOTES 22:41 AND I WAS JUST GOING TO GIVE THEM AWAY; LEAVE THEM 22:44 IN BATHROOMS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND I THOUGHT, YOU 22:45 KNOW, WHEN - I STARTED COMPILING THESE QUOTES AND 22:49 I ENDED UP HAVING SO MANY OF THEM THAT I ENDED UP 22:53 HAVING A THREE HUNDRED PAGE BOOK BECAUSE THERE 22:54 WERE JUST SO MANY QUOTES AGAINST EVOLUTION. >>BILL: 22:56 YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT BOOK OF 22:58 YOURS. EVOLUTION - FACT OR FICTION? I HAVE IT HERE. 22:59 AND THERE'S A WEBSITE, RIGHT? THAT FOLKS CAN 23:03 GO ON AND GET THIS BOOK, RIGHT? >>RANDY: YEAH. IN 23:07 FACT, THE WEBSITE IS THE TITLE OF THE BOOK, 23:08 EVOLUTIONFACTORFICTION.COM . IT IS - THEY CAN GO ON 23:10 AND DOWNLOAD THE FIRST THREE CHAPTERS FOR FREE; 23:14 THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF THEY CAN DOWNLOAD, THERE'S 23:15 KIND OF A TWO MINUTE MINI TRAILER THAT THEY 23:18 CAN WATCH AND I'LL KEEP UPDATING IT, PUTTING ON 23:22 MORE INFORMATION AS I GET IT. HOPEFULLY, PEOPLE WILL 23:23 ENGAGE AND RESPOND TO - THE WHOLE REASON I'M 23:26 DOING THIS, REALLY, IS FOR CHRISTIANS TO BE ABLE TO 23:31 DEFEND THE FAITH. THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO 23:32 ME. IT IS EDUCATING OTHER CHRISTIANS TO LEARN HOW TO 23:35 DEFEND THE FAITH AGAINST EVOLUTION; HOW TO ANSWER 23:38 SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT 23:39 THERE'S NO GOD BECAUSE THEY THINK SCIENCE HAS 23:42 PROVEN IT. AND, ACTUALLY, I FIND THAT THE MORE WE 23:45 LEARN ABOUT SCIENCE THE CLOSER TO GOD WE COME 23:46 >>BILL: YEAH. AND EVERYDAY MORE AND MORE SCIENTISTS 23:51 ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THE EXISTENCE OF GOD. AND 23:54 THAT'S GREAT. YOU DID A GREAT JOB, MAN. >>RANDY: 23:55 WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 23:58 >>BILL: YOU'RE AN IMPRESSIVE GUY. >>RANDY: 23:59 THANK YOU. >>BILL: AND IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'VE 24:00 CAPTURED ALL OF THESE QUOTES IN ONE RESOURCE. 24:05 IT'S AMAZING TO ME HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS OUT 24:06 THERE. IT'S JUST SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. 24:10 >>RANDY: YEAH. FOR SURE. 24:11 AND I'D SAY THAT THIS IS NOT A BOOK THAT YOU WOULD 24:14 READ COVER TO COVER. 24:15 IT'S NOT - I MEAN IT IS PRIMARILY QUOTES 24:16 THROUGHOUT. IT'S MORE OF A REFERENCE BOOK. YOU'RE 24:20 GOING TO SKIM THROUGH IT AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED SOME 24:21 OF THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST DAMAGING TO 24:24 EVOLUTION. SO I THINK THAT YOU'D USE IT AS A 24:26 REFERENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T REALLY WANT 24:27 TO BECOME AN EXPERT IN EVOLUTION, THEY JUST 24:29 WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FOUNDATION OF THE 24:32 KNOWLEDGE. >>BILL: BE INFORMED. >>RANDY: YEAH. 24:33 AND SO CARRY THAT BOOK AROUND WITH YOU AND WHEN 24:37 YOU GET INTO A DISCUSSION WITH AN ATHEIST OR 24:39 SOMETHING WHO ASKS YOU A HARD QUESTION, YOU KNOW, 24:40 OPEN IT UP AND SAY WELL, HERE'S WHAT SUCH AND SUCH 24:44 A SCIENTIST SAYS ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND QUOTE THEM. 24:46 SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. >>BILL: GREAT. 24:47 THANKS RANDY. WE HAVE A CUSTOM OF ENDING OUR 24:49 PROGRAM WITH PRAYER. SO I'M GOING TO PRAY FOR OUR 24:50 VIEWERS RIGHT NOW. FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE THANK 24:52 YOU FOR THIS ENLIGHTENING PRESENTATION THAT RANDY 24:54 HAS PREPARED. THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR USING A MAN 24:58 LIKE RANDY TO HELP MAKE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE 24:59 TO YOUR CHILDREN SO THAT THEY MAY KNOW WHY THEY 25:06 BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE FATHER, I THINK OF OUR 25:10 VIEWERS RIGHT NOW, I PRAY FOR A SPECIAL BLESSING 25:12 UPON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. IN JESUS' 25:16 NAME, I PRAY. AMEN. 25:18 (MUSIC) 25:33 >>BILL: WELL, AS A SPECIAL GIFT TO OUR VIEWERS WE'D 25:34 LIKE TO OFFER YOU THE LATE PASTOR FREYERBEND'S BOOK, 25:36 'GOD'S WORLD', WHERE HE LOOKS AT THE BIBLE AND 25:40 SCIENCE AND SHOWS HOW THERE IS HARMONY BETWEEN 25:41 WHAT GOD'S WORD SAYS AND WHAT THE LABORATORY HAS 25:47 PROVEN. IT IS AGIFT FROM 'IT IS WRITTEN' TO YOU. 25:51 HERE IS THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO GET YOUR COPY. 26:55 >>BILL: WELL, RANDY, LE ME THANK YOU FOR YOUR 26:56 PRESENTATION TODAY AND LET ME INVITE YOU BACK TO BE 26:58 ON 'IT IS WRITTEN' AGAIN >>RANDY: GREAT. >>BILL: 27:01 BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE MORE. WHAT'S THE WEBSITE 27:02 AGAIN WHERE FOLKS CAN GET YOUR BOOK? >>RANDY: 27:04 WWW.EVOLUTIONFACTORFICTION .COM. WHICH IS THE SAME AS 27:07 THE TITLE OF THE BOOK. >>BILL: 27:08 EVOLUTIONFACTORFICTION.COM , THAT'S THE TITLE OF 27:10 THE BOOK. >>RANDY: YES. 27:11 >>BILL: THANK YOU, RANDY. 27:14 >>RANDY: YOU'RE WELCOME. 27:15 >>BILL: AND THANK YOU TO OUR VIEWERS FOR FAITHFULLY 27:16 WATCHING WEEK AFTER WEEK. REMEMBER OUR WEBSITE 27:17 ITISWRITTENCANADA.CA THERE YOU CAN SEND YOUR COMMENTS 27:19 ON THIS PROGRAM. WE WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING 27:25 SOME COMMENTS ON THIS PROGRAM. 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