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Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC201018
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00:01 >>BILL: ACCORDING TO A NEWSPAPER COLUMN, J. UPTON
00:02 DICKSON WAS A FUN-LOVING FELLOW WHO SAID HE WAS 00:05 WRITING A BOOK ENTITLED 'COWAR POWER'. HE ALSO 00:10 FOUNDED A GROUP OF SUBMISSIVE PEOPLE IT WAS 00:11 CALLED 'DOOR MATS', STANDS FOR DEPENDENT ORGANIZATION 00:15 OF REALLY MEEK AND TIMID SOULS, IF THERE ARE NO 00:21 OBJECTIONS. THEIR MOTTO WAS THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT 00:22 THE EARTH, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. 00:27 THEIR SYMBOL WAS THE YELLOW TRAFFIC LIGHT. 00:41 (MUSIC) >>ANNOUNCER: IT HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME 00:44 GOD'S BOOK, THE BIBLE 00:48 STILL RELEVANT IN TODAY'S COMPLEX WORLD. 00:51 IT IS WRITTEN . . . 00:55 SHARING MESSAGES OF HOPE AROUND THE WORLD. 00:59 (MUSIC) 01:10 >>BILL: IN MATTHEW 5 AND VERSE 5 JESUS SAYS, 01:20 NOW, THAT WAS A SHOCKING SURPRISE TO HIS JEWISH 01:21 AUDIENCE JUST AS THE FIRST TWO BEATITUDES WERE. JESUS 01:23 CALLED FOR A STANDARD OF LIVING THAT WAS FOREIGN TO 01:27 THOSE WHO HEARD HIM. THEY KNEW HOW TO BE SPIRITUALLY 01:28 PROUD AND SELF-SUFFICIENT AND WERE GOOD AT 01:32 FOLLOWING AN EXTERNAL FORM OF RELIGION. THEY THOUGHT 01:37 THAT THEY COULD SURVIVE SPIRITUALLY THROUGH THEIR 01:38 OWN STRENGTH, WISDOM, AND RESOURCES. THEY EXPECTED 01:42 THAT WHEN THE MESSIAH ARRIVED HE WOULD SAY I'M 01:46 HERE TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR WONDERFUL 01:47 SPIRITUALITY. GOD IS VERY PLEASED WITH YOU. I'M 01:54 HERE TO USHER YOU INTO THE KINGDOM. BUT THE LORD'S 01:56 FIRST RECORDED SERMON DID NOT CONFIRM SUCH 01:57 EXPECTATIONS. NOW, MEEKNESS IS DIFFERENT FROM 02:01 BEING BROKEN OR POOR IN SPIRIT, THOUGH THE GREEK 02:07 ROOT WORD IS THE SAME. 02:08 BROKENNESS OF SPIRIT IS NEGATIVE IN THAT IT FOCUS' 02:11 ON MAN'S SINFULNESS AND RESULTS IN MOURNING 02:12 MEEKNESS IS POSITIVE IN THAT IT FOCUS' ON 02:18 GOD'S HOLINESS AND MAN'S RESPONSE TO THAT HOLINESS. 02:21 THEY ARE TWO SIDES TO THE SAME IDEA. WE ARE TO BE 02:22 POOR IN SPIRIT BECAUSE WE ARE SINNERS; AND MEEK 02:26 BECAUSE GOD IS SO HOLY IN COMPARISON TO US. OUR 02:31 WORLD IS STILL HAVING TROUBLE WITH MATTHEW 5:5 02:32 YOU SEE, PEOPLE ASSOCIATE HAPPINESS WITH SUCCESS, 02:36 POWER, CONFIDENCE, AND CONQUEST BUT ACCORDING TO 02:43 JESUS, HIS KINGDOM IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE MEEK. WELL, 02:44 TODAY WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THAT BEATITUDE AND 02:50 JOINING US ONCE AGAIN IS PASTOR TONY BUENO. PASTOR 02:59 TONY, WELCOME BACK AGAIN. 03:00 >>PASTOR TONY: THANK YOU, BILL. >>BILL: AND WE HAVE 03:02 OUR SPECIAL GUEST, PASTOR RON TOURANSKI. PASTOR RON, 03:03 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 03:07 >>PASTOR RON: IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE. >>BILL: WELL, 03:08 THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU ACCEPTING OUR 03:10 INVITATION. PASTOR RON, FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR 03:12 VIEWERS - THEY'VE MET PASTOR BUENO A COUPLE OF 03:13 TIMES ALREADY - TELL US A BIT ABOUT YOU AND WHERE 03:17 YOU PASTOR RIGHT NOW >>PASTOR RON: WELL, I'M 03:20 ACTUALLY PART GERMAN AND PART UKRANIAN SO THAT 03:21 MAKES ME A GERANIAN. 03:24 (LAUGHTER) BUT ANYWAY, NATIONALITY ASIDE, I 03:25 PASTOR IN LINCOLN PIONEER CHURCH IN GRIMSBY, 03:29 ONTARIO, NOT FAR FROM HAMILTON AND I'M PART TIME 03:34 CHAPLIN AT THE HERITAGE GREEN NURSING HOME WHICH 03:35 I ENJOY VERY MUCH, WORKING FOR THE ELDERLY. >>BILL: 03:38 WELL, WONDERFUL. IS THERE A WEBSITE FOR YOUR CHURCH 03:41 THAT FOLKS.>>PASTOR RON: THAT WOULD BE ON 03:42 THE ONTARIO WEBSITE, THE ONTARIO CONFERENCE. 03:44 >>BILL: SO IF THEY GO TO THE ONTARIO CONFERENCE 03:47 WEBSITE THEY CAN CLICK ON THEIR AND FIND.>>PASTOR 03:48 TONY: LINCOLN PIONEER. 03:50 >>BILL:.LINCOLN PIONEER? 03:51 >>PASTOR RON: SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. >>BILL: 03:53 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. THANK YOU PASTOR 03:55 RON. WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT HAS CREATED A 03:58 LITTLE BIT OF DISCOMFORT FOR ME. BECAUSE AS I 04:03 STUDIED THIS AND I BEGAN - I USE THE NASB - AND 04:04 IT SAYS, "BLESSED ARE THE GENTLE" AND BOY, I 04:13 THINK THAT GENTLENESS IS SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO 04:20 WORK ON. SO, THIS IS - I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD 04:21 TO THE INSIGHTS THAT YOU FELLOWS BRING BECAUSE THIS 04:28 IS SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO WORK ON IN MY LIFE. 04:33 >>PASTOR TONY: WELL, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WOULD 04:34 LIKE TO READ, BLESSED ARE THE BULLIES, BUT THAT'S 04:35 NOT WHAT JESUS SAID. HE SAID, 'BLESSED ARE THE 04:38 MEEK'. AND THE WORD THAT IS USED IN THE 04:39 GREEK VERSION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT - WE ALL KNOW 04:43 THAT CHRIST DIDN'T SPEAK IN GREEK, HE SPOKE IN 04:48 ARAMAIC - BUT THE FIRST RENDITION OF THE NEW 04:49 TESTAMENT THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE WAS IN 04:52 GREEK. AND IF WE TRUST, AS WE SHOULD, THAT THE 04:57 TRANSLATORS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT FROM THE ARAMAIC 04:58 THAT CHRIST SPOKE TO THE GREEK, IN WHICH THE 05:04 GOSPELS ARE RECORDED, DID AN ACCURATE TRANSLATION, 05:07 THEN THE GREEK TERM BRINGS THE CONOTATION OF BEING 05:09 HUMBLE, OF BEING GENTLE, OF BEING KIND, OF BEING 05:14 LOWLY, UNASSUMING. IT'S REALLY THE ANTITHISUS OF 05:24 ARROGANCE AND SELF-IMPORTANCE. IT'S THAT 05:26 ATTRIBUTE OF THE HEART THAT CONSIDERS ONESELF AS 05:34 SECOND TO OTHERS, NOT LESS THAN OTHERS, BUT SECOND TO 05:41 OTHERS. WHO INSTEAD OF SAYING LET ME TALK SO YOU 05:42 CAN LISTEN SAYS TELL ME I WANT TO LEARN FROM YOU. 05:49 THAT IS THE CONCEPT OF MEEKNESS THAT CHRIST IS 05:55 PRESENTING HERE WHICH, OF COURSE, MAKES OF A PERSON 05:56 WITH THOSE CHARACTERISTICS A WONDERFUL FRIEND BECAUSE 06:01 HE OR SHE WILL BE KIND AND GENTLE AND SUPPORTIVE IN 06:08 THE RELATIONSHIP. >>PASTOR RON: LOYAL. >>PASTOR TONY: 06:09 LOYAL TOO. ABSOLUTELY. 06:11 >>BILL: YEAH. 06:12 IN FACT, I THINK IT'S IN 2CORINTHIANS, CHAPTER 10 06:16 THAT PAUL SPEAKS OF THE - I THINK IT'S - BOY 06:17 WOULDN'T THAT BE WONDERFUL IF I GOT THE - OH YES, 06:24 IT'S PAUL, 2CORINTHIANS 10, VERSE ONE, RIGHT? 06:42 SO HE MAKES REFERENCE TO THE MEEKNESS AND 06:43 GENTLENESS OF JESUS CHRIST. I THINK SOMETIMES 06:45 FOLKS HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING MEEKNESS. 06:49 >>PASTOR RON: I THINK SOMETIMES MEEKNESS IS 06:51 EQUATED WITH WEAKNESS. 06:52 >>BILL: YES. >>PASTOR RON: IT'S NOT THAT AT ALL. LET 06:53 ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. >>BILL: LIKE THE 06:58 DOOR MAT SOCIETY. >>PASTOR RON: YES, EXACTLY. LET ME 06:59 GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES IN THE BIBLE ON 07:01 THAT. A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. 07:04 MOSES, HE WAS A GREAT LEADER, RIGHT? AND HE 07:05 STOOD UP TO BE THE MOST POWERFUL LEADER IN THE 07:09 WORLD BUT YET, THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT HE WAS MEEK 07:12 AND HE LED GOD'S PEOPLE THROUGH THE WILDERNESS 07:13 NOW, NUMBERS 12:3 IS A TEXT THAT TELLS 07:18 US THAT MOSES WAS VERY MEEK. IT SAYS, 07:29 SO IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT HE WAS THE MEEKEST OF 07:30 ALL MEN BUT THEN WE HAVE AN EVEN GREATER EXAMPLE IN 07:34 JESUS. IN MATTHEW 11:29, HE SEES JESUS COULD STAND 07:40 UP IN THE SHIP. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN HE SAID 07:41 "PEACE BE STILL" TO THE WINDS AND THE WAVES AND 07:46 THEN ANOTHER EXAMPLE WAS WHEN HE CHASED THE MONEY 07:50 CHANGERS OUT OF THE TEMPLE, YOU KNOW, WITH A 07:51 WHIP. BUT YOU SEE, MATTHEW 11:29 PUTS IT INTO 07:57 PERSPECTIVE HERE, 08:05 SO THERE ARE TWO EXAMPLES RIGHT THERE. MOSES, NUMBER 08:06 ONE AND JESUS, THE FACT THAT THEY WERE THE 08:09 POWERFUL EXAMPLES, THAT THEY HAD THE POWER IN THEM 08:11 AS WELL. SO MEEKNESS IS NOT WEAKNESS. >>BILL: 08:12 YEAH. AND WE TEND NOT TO ASSOCIATE MEEKNESS WITH 08:15 LEADERS, WITH POWERFUL LEADERS LIKE JESUS OR 08:20 MOSES, RIGHT? THAT TENDS NOT TO BE ON THE LIST OF 08:21 QUALIFICATIONS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A CORPORATE 08:26 C.E.O. YOU KNOW, MEEK.GENTLE.DOESN'T 08:31 APPEAR. >>PASTOR TONY: IT WOULD BE C O 08:32 UNTER-CULTURAL.>>BILL: YES. ONCE AGAIN. >>PASTOR 08:35 TONY:.IN OUR DAYS. BUT IT'S INTERESTING ABOUT 08:40 MEEKNESS BECAUSE IT'S A CHARACTERISTIC THAT CAN 08:41 NEVER BE SELF-PREDICATED. 08:45 THE MOMENT ANYONE WAS TO SAY, OTHER THAN JESUS 08:46 CHRIST,.>>BILL: I'M MEEK. 08:51 >>PASTOR TONY:.I AM MEEK. (LAUGHTER) IT 08:52 BECOMES OBVIOUS THAT THAT IS.>>PASTOR RON: 08:55 SELF-SERVING. >>PASTOR TONY:.NOT MEEKNESS, YOU 08:58 KNOW. SO, IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE RECOGNIZED 08:59 IT'S SOMETHING THAT OTHERS OBSERVE AND THEY TESTIFY 09:04 TO. THEY SAY.>>PASTOR RON: AFFIRM. >>PASTOR 09:10 TONY:.AFFIRM, WHAT A MEEK PERSON, WHAT A HUMBLE 09:12 PERSON. NOW, JESUS CHRIST IS, RIGHTLY, THE ONE WHO 09:16 COULD SAY SO ABOUT HIMSELF BECAUSE IN ALL THINGS HE 09:23 DID, HE EXHIBITED THAT MEEKNESS, THAT WAS SO 09:25 COMPLETE AND TOTAL THAT IT WAS HIS ALONE. >>BILL: 09:31 YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE PRIVILEDGE OF HAVING HERE 09:35 ON SET A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, DR. BEN CARSON, 09:36 A FAMOUS PEDIATRIC NEUROSURGEON, VERY 09:40 ACCOMPLISHED MAN BY THE WAY OF THE WORLD, HE'S GOT 09:48 EVERYTHING THE WORLD.AND I THINK ALL OF US WHO WERE 09:49 HERE INCLUDING THE CREW THAT WERE PRESENT WOULD 09:56 SAY THAT THAT WAS A MEEK MAN. WITH ALL OF THOSE - 09:59 ALL OF THE ACCOLADES THAT HE'S RECEIVED AND, YOU 10:00 KNOW, THE CIRCLES THAT HE MOVES IN AND THE PEOPLE 10:06 HE RUBS SHOULDERS WITH, I MEAN, HE COULD WALK IN 10:13 HERE AND BE SOMEONE VERY ARROGANT BUT I SAW IN HIM 10:14 A SPIRIT.>>PASTOR RON: A GENTLENESS. >>BILL:.A 10:18 GENTLENESS.>>PASTOR RON: I NOTICED THAT TOO. 10:21 >>BILL:.WHICH WAS SOMETHING SO, SO 10:22 IMPRESSIVE. AND IT WAS INTERESTING, I THINK 10:25 ABOUT IT NOW, IT DIDN'T TRANSLATE INTO WEAKNESS. 10:27 BECAUSE I WOULD NOT SAY HE'S A WEAK MAN. IN FACT, 10:28 HE'S A VERY POWERFUL MAN. 10:31 >>PASTOR RON: COULD WE SAY THAT MEEKNESS IS STRENGTH 10:32 UNDER CONTROL. STRENGTH UNDER CONTROL. >>BILL: 10:36 THAT'S NICELY PUT. NOW WHAT IF GOD'S CHILDREN, IF 10:39 ALL THOSE THAT CLAIM TO BE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST 10:40 WERE, IN FACT, MEEK, WHAT WOULD THE RESULTS OF THAT 10:46 BE? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? 10:47 WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING DIFFERENT IN THE WORLD 10:54 OR IN THE CHURCH IF WE, IN FACT, WERE MEEK AND GENTLE 10:58 LIKE JESUS WANTS US TO BE? 10:59 >>PASTOR TONY: WOULD THEY BE PRIME VICTIMS OF ABUSE? 11:03 >>BILL: RIGHT. WOULD THEY BE TRAMPLED ON? >>PASTOR 11:04 TONY: UH HUH, OR WOULD THEY PORTRAY SUCH AN 11:07 EXAMPLE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD STOP AND LOOK AND 11:09 LISTEN. THE REAL GREATNESS OF A PERSON IS NEVER 11:10 SELF-PROCLAIMED AND WHEN YOU RECOGNIZE GREATNESS IN 11:16 SOMEONE IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE BEYOND THE 11:23 EXTERIOR. THE MEEK ARE PEOPLE WHO PRESENT TO YOU 11:24 THE INSIDE OF WHO THEY ARE AND IN THE TRUE HUMILITY 11:32 OF THEIR HEART, THEY LIVE A LIFE THAT IS UNASSUMING 11:37 AND THAT GIVES CREDIT TO GOD AS THE GIVER OF ALL 11:38 GIFTS AND THE PROVIDER OF THE STRENGTH TO REACH 11:43 ANY ACHIEVEMENT THAT THEY ACCOMPLISH AND THAT 11:50 SUPPORT OTHERS FOR THE CONTRIBUTION THAT THEY 11:51 HAVE MADE TO THEIR OWN SUCCESS. >>PASTOR RON: 11:59 JUST TO ADD TO THAT. I THINK THAT, BROTHER BILL, 12:01 TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WE WOULD PROBABLY BE 12:02 IN THE KINGDOM BY NOW IF EVERYONE, IF YOU TAKE 12:11 LITERALLY EVERYONE THAT PRACTICES THAT. BECAUSE IT 12:14 DOES SAY THE REWARD WILL BE, 'THEY SHALL INHERIT 12:15 THE EARTH'. BEST OF THE MEEK. SO, I BELIEVE WE 12:21 WOULD BE IN THE KINGDOM WITH OUR LORD. >>BILL: 12:24 THAT'S A GOOD - WHAT WOULD I LOOK AT IN MY LIFE THAT 12:25 WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY I AM NOT MEEK? 12:28 I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT I'M - I THINK, LIKE I SAID 12:31 EARLIER, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING I NEED TO WORK 12:32 ON. I MEAN, HOW DOES SOMEONE KNOW? LIKE HOW 12:39 DOES SOMEBODY WATCHING HERE KNOW, IN FACT - YOU 12:46 SAID OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SEE IT IN THEM. >>PASTOR 12:47 RON: I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THE MEMBERS 12:49 YOU WORK FOR, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK WITH, THEY 12:52 WOULD HAVE TO AFFIRM THAT. 12:53 THEY'D HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS A MEEK PERSON BECAUSE 12:55 YOU'RE WILLING TO GIVE, THAT'S ANOTHER ASPECT OF 12:56 BEING MEEK. WHEN I WAS PASTORING ANOTHER CHURCH, 13:01 I'LL SAY OVER A THOUSAND MILES AWAY, FOR THE SAKE 13:06 OF CONVERSING ABOUT IT, THE POINT WAS THAT THERE 13:07 WERE MEMBERS THAT THEY IDENTIFIED THAT WAS MY 13:11 FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT, MEEKNESS. NOW I DIDN'T 13:16 KNOW IF THAT WAS A COMPLIMENT OR NOT BUT I 13:17 THINK IT IS BECAUSE IT'S STRENGTH UNDER CONTROL. 13:21 IT'S BEING ABLE TO DO THE JOB AND HAVE THE POWER OF 13:26 THE LORD WITH YOU AND STILL BE HUMBLE ABOUT IT. 13:27 WHATEVER CALLING GOD CALLS YOU TO DO, WHATEVER, 13:31 WHETHER IT BE GREAT OR SOMETHING LITTLE AND I 13:35 THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT NO 13:36 MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. IT'S ALSO BEING ABLE TO WORK 13:40 AND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CRITICISM. ONE OF MY 13:46 DEARLY BELOVED ELDERS IN A CHURCH MANY YEARS AGO CAME 13:47 TO ME WITH ABOUT 3 OR 4 PAGES OF CRITICISM ON 13:52 MY SERMON, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO - YOU 13:56 KNOW, ONE SABBATH AFTERNOON, AFTER I HAD 13:57 PREACHED IN THE MORNING, WENT ON, THIS IS WHAT YOU 14:00 NEED TO CHANGE AND THIS IS HOW YOU NEED TO IMPROVE. 14:05 WELL, I JUST TOOK THAT GRACIOUSLY AND TRIED TO 14:06 LEARN FROM IT INSTEAD OF ARGUING WITH HIM AND 14:09 GETTING MAD. IT DOESN'T BENEFIT ANYBODY BY DOING 14:12 THAT. SO I JUST GRACIOUSLY TOOK IT, IT'S GRACE UNDER 14:13 FIRE, YOU SEE, WHEN YOU'RE PATIENTLY, YOU LEARN FROM 14:17 WHAT EXPERIENCES IN LIFE AND YOU MOVE ON AND YOU DO 14:22 YOUR VERY BEST. YOU DO BETTER NEXT TIME. THAT'S 14:23 MEEKNESS IN MY MIND. 14:27 >>BILL: OKAY. >>PASTOR TONY: YOU ASKED THE 14:28 QUESTION, HOW DO WE KNOW? 14:30 IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE A TEST FOR MEEKNESS? NO. CAN 14:31 THEY GIVE ME A QUIZ? AND IF I CHECK THE RIGHT 14:35 ANSWERS THEN I SCORE 100% OR 75% OR WHATEVER ON THE 14:42 MEEKNESS TEST. NO. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY THING LIKE 14:44 THAT. CHRIST SAYS, LEARN FROM ME. IN OTHER WORDS, 14:49 THE WAY TO KNOW WHETHER I AM MEEK OR NOT IS TO LOOK 14:59 AT JESUS. AND BECAUSE HE IS MEEK IF I OBSERVE HIM 15:00 LONG ENOUGH BY BEHOLDING, I WILL BECOME TRANSFORMED. 15:09 IT MAY BE THAT I WILL START TO RECOGNIZE A 15:14 MODEST OPERANDIA WAY OF LIFE IN JESUS THAT I CAN 15:15 EMULATE. HE SAYS, LEARN FROM ME. SO, AS DISIPLES, 15:21 AS STUDENTS WE SHOULD LEARN FROM THE MASTER. AND 15:26 THAT PROCESS WILL NECESSARILY PRODUCE A 15:27 CHANGE IN HEART, A CHANGE IN ATTITUDE THAT OTHERS 15:32 WILL BEGIN TO RECOGNIZE >>BILL: THAT'S RIGHT. 15:35 >>PASTOR TONY: AND THEIR TESTIMONY WILL BE AN 15:36 AFFIRMATION THAT, INDEED, CHRIST IS AT WORK IN US. 15:39 THE IMAGE OF CHRIST IS BEING REPRODUCED IN OUR 15:44 CHARACTER AND WE ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE 15:45 LIKE HIM BY HIS GRACE. 15:49 >>BILL: NOW, CHRIST DID KICK OVER THE MONEY 15:50 CHANGERS TABLES IN THE TEMPLE, RIGHT? >>PASTOR 15:55 TONY: HE DID. HE DID. WAS THAT NOT MEEK? >>BILL: 15:59 THAT'S MY QUESTION. 16:00 >>PASTOR TONY: (LAUGHTER) THAT'S YOUR QUESTION. 16:03 >>BILL: THAT'S RIGHT. 16:04 >>PASTOR TONY: THAT WAS A MOMENT DESCRIBED AS DIVINE 16:06 WRATH IN WHICH GOD'S INDIGNATION WAS 16:07 RIGHTEOUSLY DISPLAYED. 16:17 BECAUSE TO EXTREME TO WHICH THE MONEY CHANGERS 16:18 HAD COME IN THEIR BUSINESS WAS ACCIDENTALLY OFFENSIVE 16:25 TO GOD. SO, AT SOME POINTS GOD HAS ACTUALLY FLASHED 16:31 THROUGH THE SKY AND HAS ADDRESSED THE SITUATION 16:32 IN A MANNER THAT WAS MORE HANDS ON. BUT IT WAS NOT 16:40 A SIGN OF LACK OF MEEKNESS ON THE PART OF JESUS. IT 16:46 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT HE 16:48 WAS. IT HAD TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT 16:54 THE MONEY CHANGERS WERE >>PASTOR RON: AND THEY HAD 16:57 CROSSED THE LINE. 16:58 AND HE WAS PROTECTING HIS FATHER'S HOUSE. SO, A VERY 17:01 GOOD POINT PASTOR BUENO IS MAKING HERE. >>BILL: 17:02 OKAY, SO, YOU CAN BE MEEK.>>PASTOR TONY: AND 17:04 BE STRONG. >>BILL:.AND BE STRONG. AND WHEN YOU SEE 17:12 GOD AND WHEN YOU SEE GOD BEING DISHONOURED THAT CAN 17:13 STIR UP SOME PRETTY STRONG FEELINGS IN YOU.>>PASTOR 17:19 TONY: YES. >>BILL:.AND STILL BE CONSIDERED MEEK 17:22 AND GENTLE. >>PASTOR TONY: YEAH. THE MEEK WILL SPEAK 17:23 UP WHEN THEY HAVE TO. THEY WILL SPEAK UP IN A HUMBLE 17:27 WAY BUT YET IN A VERY COURAGEOUS WAY. AND GOD 17:31 NEVER CALLED COWARDS. 17:32 MEEKNESS IS A NOT COWARDICE. >>BILL: OKAY, 17:39 THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT THERE. SO HE CALLED PEOPLE 17:40 WHO WOULD HAVE THE COURAGE TO STAND FOR 17:45 TRUTH REGARDLESS OF THE CONSEQUENCES BUT WHO WOULD 17:49 DO IT WITHOUT ARROGANCE. 17:50 >>BILL: RIGHT. I THINK OF THE - WHEN I THINK OF THE 17:53 - WHEN I THINK OF THIS, I THINK OF THE REFORMERS, 17:54 YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN CALLED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, A 17:58 TRIBUNAL TO BE QUESTIONED ON THEIR FAITH WOULD STAND 18:03 THERE, YOU KNOW, STEADFAST IN THEIR BELIEF, YOU KNOW, 18:04 OF JESUS AND GOD'S WORD, YOU KNOW, PREPARED TO GO 18:10 TO A STAKE AND BE BURNED ALIVE WITH DIGNITY. 18:18 THAT'S, SORT OF, WHAT I HAVE IN MY HEAD OF WHAT, 18:19 YOU KNOW, WHAT MEEKNESS IS. THEY DIDN'T SEEK 18:23 OUT, I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T.>>PASTOR TONY: 18:28 PROVOKE. >>BILL:.PROVOKE ANYTHING BUT WHEN CALLED 18:29 TO TASK AND SAID, YOU KNOW, LUTHER BEING ASKED, 18:31 DO YOU DENY, DID YOU WRITE THESE THINGS, WELL, YES, 18:35 WELL, RECANT THIS. HOW CAN I RECANT? I'M NOT GOING TO 18:36 RECANT. IT'S ALL THE TRUTH OR ELSE I WOULDN'T HAVE 18:38 PUT IT DOWN. HE DIDN'T PROVOKE IT BUT WHEN ASKED 18:43 TO MAKE A - TO STAND FOR SOMETHING, HE STOOD. I'LL 18:44 TELL YOU, I THINK THAT HAS A TREMENDOUS POWER IN 18:47 THE WORLD. >>PASTOR RON: IN EPHESIANS, PAUL TALKS 18:49 ABOUT THAT. "SPEAKING THE TRUTH IN LOVE." YOU'RE 18:50 WILLING TO STAND FOR THE TRUTH, THOUGH THE HEAVENS 18:53 FALL BUT YOU DO IT IN LOVE. YOU CAUTION THE 18:56 LANGUAGE OF LOVE. 18:57 >>BILL: I THINK PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WANT TO SEE 18:59 CHRISTIANS STANDING FOR SOMETHING AND PEOPLE THAT 19:01 BELIEF IN SOMETHING AND WILL DO THAT WITH DIGNITY 19:09 AND GENTLENESS AND NOT WITH ARROGANCE. >>PASTOR 19:16 TONY: THE APOSTLE PETER, HE ENCOURAGES THE 19:17 BELIEVERS TO EXHIBIT A GENTLE AND QUIET 19:23 SPIRIT. AND RATHER THAN AN AUSTENTAOUS DISPLAY OF WHO 19:26 I AM, RATHER LET JESUS SHINE THROUGH ME. I SHOULD 19:27 NOT BE SEEN BUT HIM. SO, MEEKNESS IS EXPRESSED IN 19:35 THE BEAUTIFUL SONG, NOT I BUT CHRIST. AND WHEN WE 19:43 GIVE PRECEDENCE TO JESUS, WHEN EVERYTHING WE DO WE 19:44 DO TO THE GLORY OF GOD, THEN HE SHINES AND WE FADE 19:51 AWAY IN THE SHADOW OF HIS GREATNESS. THAT'S THE BEST 19:59 PLACE FOR A CHRISTIAN TO BE. >>PASTOR RON: I THINK 20:00 THAT MEEKNESS COMES OUT OF A SPIRIT OF CONTENTMENT. 20:04 YOU KNOW, I MAY JUST THROW ANOTHER THOUGHT IN THERE. 20:08 >>BILL: SURE. >>PASTOR RON: PHILLIPIANS 20:09 4:11, IT SAYS, 20:16 IT'S THAT COMFORT LEVEL, BEING COMFORTABLE WITH 20:17 WHO YOU ARE. THE LEVEL OF CONTENTMENT. NO MATTER 20:22 HOW MANY DEGREES YOU HAVE BEHIND YOUR NAME, HOW MANY 20:25 - HOW MUCH MONEY YOU'RE MAKING. GOD HAS BLESSED 20:26 YOU AND YOU KNOW THAT. AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE A SERVANT 20:32 OF GOD AND YOU HAVE A JOB TO DO AND YOU DO IT WELL. 20:35 >>BILL: YEAH, I MEAN, I HEAR YOU SAYING DON'T BE 20:36 AGGRESSIVE, DON'T BE OUT THERE GO, GO, GO, STEPPING 20:40 ON EVERYBODY TO TRY AND GET AHEAD IN THE WORLD AND 20:44 ACCUMMULATE THING. 20:45 BE GENTLE, BE MEEK, BE HUMBLE, BE OBEDIENT TO MY 20:49 WORD AND IF YOU DO THAT IN THE END I HAVE A WONDERFUL 20:50 INHERITANCE FOR YOU. YOU WILL INHERIT THE EARTH. 20:56 >>PASTOR RON: WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK FOR? >>BILL: 20:58 WHAT MORE COULD YOU, EXACTLY RIGHT, WHAT MORE 20:59 COULD WE ASK FOR? >>PASTOR TONY: YOU KNOW THE LIFE OF 21:02 A MEEK PERSON MAY AT TIMES APPEAR TO BE LACKING IN 21:06 EXCITEMENT. THE MEEK SEEM TO HAVE THEIR SHOULDERS 21:07 BENT OVER, THEIR HEAD DOWN, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T 21:13 LOOK AT YOU IN THE EYES WELL, THAT IS A CHARACTER. 21:18 THE MEEK CAN BE CONFIDENT AND CAN BE COURAGEOUS 21:19 BUT CHRIST GIVES THEM A SPECIAL PROMISE HERE. AND 21:25 HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ON THIS EARTH YOU LACKED 21:32 THINGS AND YOU LACKED RECOGNITION WELL, I AM 21:33 GOING TO MAKE YOU THE HEIR OF THE WORLD MADE NEW THAT 21:39 I AM ABOUT TO CREATE. AND I WILL PRESENT YOU BEFORE 21:47 THE UNIVERSE AS THE HEIR. 21:48 >>BILL: YES. >>PASTOR TONY: AND I WILL HONOUR 21:53 YOU. YOU WILL STAND BY MY RIGHT SIDE AND BECAUSE 21:54 YOU ACKNOWLEDGED MY NAME THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFE IN 22:00 THIS WORLD AND BECAUSE YOU EXALTED ME, RATHER THAN 22:04 YOURSELF, I AM GOING TO EXALT YOU AS THE HEIR 22:05 OF THE WORLD MADE NEW. I THINK THAT PROMISE HAS SO 22:10 MUCH BEAUTY AND SO MUCH COMFORT TO ANYONE WHO 22:15 IDENTIFIES WITH THE CHALLENGE OF CHRIST TO 22:16 BE MEEK. >>BILL: WE HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT AND I 22:22 KNOW YOU HAD A QUOTE YOU WANTED TO.>>PASTOR RON: 22:26 YES, CAN I SHARE THAT? >>BILL: ABSOLUTELY. 22:27 >>PASTOR RON: A.W. TOZER, HE WAS A GREAT CHRISTIAN 22:29 AUTHOR. HERE'S WHAT HE SAID, IN SUMMING IT UP, 23:06 THIS IS HIS MOTTO. >>BILL: THAT'S WONDERFUL. >>PASTOR 23:07 TONY: BEAUTIFUL. >>BILL: WELL, THANK YOU PASTORS. 23:10 THANK YOU FOR THOSE INSIGHTS. YOU KNOW, AS 23:11 PASTOR RON SAID, MEEKNESS IS POWER UNDER CONTROL. I 23:12 LIKE THAT. IT SHOWS ITSELF WHEN YOU SEEK TO DEFEND 23:14 GOD'S HONOUR AND NOT YOUR OWN. IT RESULTS IN 23:22 BLESSINGS THAT, IN THE END, CAUSE YOU TO 23:23 INHERIT THE EARTH. IT CHARACTERIZES EVERY 23:26 TRUE BELIEVER BECAUSE IT ACCOMPANIES SALVATION. IT 23:31 IS COMMANDED BY GOD, IS NEEDED FOR RECEIVING AND 23:32 COMMUNICATING HIS WORD, AND GLORIFIES HIM. FRIEND, 23:37 EXAMINE YOURSELF TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE 23:41 TRULY MEEK. WHAT IS THE PRACTICAL COST OF TAKING 23:42 OFFENSE, ONLY WHEN GOD HIMSELF IS ATTACKED? J.C. 23:46 ROW WROTE THAT A CHRISTIAN MUST BE CONTENT TO BE 23:50 THOUGHT ILL OF BY MAN IF HE PLEASES GOD. HE MUST 23:51 COUNT IT NO STRANGE THING TO BE MOCKED, RIDICULED, 23:55 SLANDERED, PERSECUTED, AND EVEN HATED. HE MUST NOT BE 24:01 SURPRISED TO FIND HIS OPINIONS AND HIS PRACTICES 24:02 IN RELIGION DESPISED AND HELD UP TO SCORN. HE MUST 24:06 SUBMIT TO BE THOUGHT BY MANY A FOOL, AN ENTHUSIST, 24:12 A FANATIC. TO HAVE HIS WORDS PERVERTED AND HIS 24:13 ACTIONS MISREPRESENTED. IN FACT, HE MUST NOT MARVEL 24:19 IF SOME EVEN CALL HIM MAD SO FAR, AS WE'VE EXAMINED 24:27 THE BEATITUDES IT MAY MAKE MANY CHRISTIANS AND THE 24:28 PROSPECT OF CHRISTIANITY TO BE KIND OF A DISMAL 24:33 ONE. SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT CHRISTIANS ARE 24:38 POOR IN SPIRT, THEY MOURN OVER SIN AND THEIR 24:39 MEEK. A PERSON MIGHT ASK THEMSELVES, WHAT HOPE IS 24:41 THERE IN THOSE THINGS? BUT EACH OF THESE ATTITUDES 24:45 DEMONSTRATES THE NEW NATURE OF THE BELIEVER. 24:46 TO FOLLOW CHRIST WILL COST MANY DEARLY BUT WILL 24:50 RESULT IN ETERNAL LIFE THE QUESTION IS: ARE WE 24:56 WILLING TO PAY THE COST? 24:57 ARE WE WILLING TO STRIVE TO FOCUS ON THE PERSON OF 25:01 JESUS CHRIST? AND IT WILL BE LESS HARD TO BE MEEK IN 25:02 A PROUD WORLD. PASTOR RON, WOULD YOU PRAY WITH 25:12 OUR VIEWERS. >>PASTOR RON: I'D BE HAPPY TO. 25:14 OUR GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE WANT TO THANK 25:15 YOU THAT YOU ARE SUCH A GREAT GOD. AND EVENTHOUGH 25:19 YOU'RE SO GREAT, YOU SIT UP THEIR ON THE THRONE IN 25:25 HEAVEN, YOU GAVE US THE GREATEST EXAMPLE OF 25:26 MEEKNESS THAT WE COULD EVER HAVE BY COMING DOWN 25:30 AND DYING FOR OUR SINS THERE IN THE GARDEN YOU 25:35 SAID, NOT MY WILL BUT THY WILL BE DONE. THAT IS A 25:36 GREAT EXAMPLE OF MEEKNESS. 25:39 WE THANK YOU THAT YOU GAVE US THAT EXAMPLE AND YOU 25:41 HUMBLED YOURSELF FROM THE THRONE ABOVE TO COME TO 25:46 THIS EARTH SO THAT YOU COULD, INDEED, GIVE EACH 25:50 PERSON, EACH SINNER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ETERNAL 25:51 LIFE. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE PRAY THAT YOU 25:58 WILL HELP US IN THE DAYS AHEAD THAT WE WILL TAKE 26:01 THE EXAMPLE OF JESUS, JUST MOLD OUR CHARACTER SO THAT 26:02 WE WILL BE MEEK LIKE YOU. 26:05 SO THAT, INDEED, AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEAVEN WE 26:06 WILL REALIZE THAT WE WILL INHERIT THE EARTH BECAUSE 26:11 WE HAVE BEEN HAPPY AND CONTENT IN BEING MEEK. 26:16 THANK YOU LORD FOR THE LESSON YOU HAVE TAUGHT 26:17 US TODAY. IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN. 26:24 (MUSIC) 26:38 >>BILL: WE'D LIKE TO OFFER YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY 26:39 TO ENROLL IN THE DISCOVER BIBLE SCHOOL. IT'S A 26:43 GREAT WAY TO DEEPEN YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF GOD'S 26:45 WORD. IF YOU'D LIKE TO BEGIN RIGHT AWAY, HERE'S 26:46 THE INFORMATION YOU NEED SO WE CAN SEND YOU 26:50 YOUR VERY FIRST LESSON. 27:52 >>BILL: WELL, THAT'S THE END OF ANOTHER PROGRAM. 27:53 PASTOR BUENO, THANK YOU. 27:55 PASTOR RON, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US ALSO. AND 27:56 THANK YOU, OUR VIEWERS, OUR FAITHFUL, LOYAL 28:00 VIEWERS THAT TUNE IN EVERY SINGLE WEEK. WE APPRECIATE 28:04 YOU SO MUCH BEING WITH US. DON'T FORGET 28:05 TO VISIT THE WEBSITE, ITISWRITTENCANADA.CA. YOU 28:08 CAN SEND A PRAYER REQEEST, COMMENT ON THESE PROGRAMS. 28:12 YOU CAN ALSO VISIT OUR FACEBOOK PAGE; YOU CAN 28:13 FOLLOW US ON TWITTER. 28:18 UNTIL NEXT WEEK, REMEMBER, IT IWRITTEN; MAN SHALL 28:19 NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE BUT BY EVERY WORD 28:24 THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD. 28:30 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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