>>Bill: JOINING ME TODAY ON THE IT IS WRITTEN 00:00:01.53\00:00:02.60 TELECAST IS DR. GEORGE KNIGHT. HE GREW UP AN 00:00:02.60\00:00:04.36 AGNOSTIC BUT TODAY HE IS ONE THE MOST RESPECTED 00:00:04.36\00:00:08.96 THINKERS WITHIN THE ADVENTIST CHURCH 00:00:08.96\00:00:09.80 COMMUNITY. HE IS MY GUEST. 00:00:09.80\00:00:12.43 I KNOW THAT YOU WILL NOT WANT TO MISS THIS SPECIAL 00:00:12.43\00:00:13.43 INTERVIEW. IT IS WRITTEN BEGINS RIGHT NOW. 00:00:13.43\00:00:19.40 >>Announcer: IT HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME . . . 00:00:29.80\00:00:32.30 GOD'S BOOK, THE BIBLE. 00:00:32.56\00:00:35.76 STILL RELEVANT IN TODAY'S COMPLEX WORLD 00:00:36.03\00:00:40.06 IT IS WRITTEN, SPREADING MESSAGES OF 00:00:40.43\00:00:41.26 HOPE AROUND THE WORLD. 00:00:41.26\00:00:47.36 (MUSIC) 00:00:47.63\00:01:01.10 DR. KNIGHT, WELCOME TO THE IT IS WRITTEN PROGRAM. 00:01:01.76\00:01:02.90 >>Dr, Knight: THANKS BILL. 00:01:02.90\00:01:04.73 >>Bill: IT IS A THRILL TO HAVE YOU. YOU AND I SPOKE 00:01:04.73\00:01:05.76 ON THE PHONE THE OTHER DAY AND, I KNOW TECHNICALLY 00:01:05.76\00:01:08.90 YOU ARE RETIRED BUT YOU SEEM BUSIER NOW THAN WHEN 00:01:08.90\00:01:10.63 YOU WERE IN FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT.>>DR. KNIGHT 00:01:10.63\00:01:11.63 WELL, I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT WHAT RETIREMENT IS. 00:01:11.63\00:01:14.63 IT'S GOT 2 THINGS FOR ME. 00:01:14.63\00:01:15.13 I GET UP AT 4 O'CLOCK TO START WORK THE MORNING 00:01:15.13\00:01:17.93 INSTEAD OF SIX AND I GET PAID HALF AS MUCH. HOW'S 00:01:17.93\00:01:20.50 THAT. >>Bill: WELL WE APPRECIATE YOU FITTING US 00:01:20.50\00:01:21.50 INTO YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE AND >>Dr. Knight: IT'S 00:01:21.50\00:01:26.53 GOOD TO BE HERE. >>Bill: AS I SAID IN THE SHORT 00:01:26.53\00:01:29.50 INTRO, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, YOU GREW UP AS AN 00:01:29.50\00:01:30.46 AGNOSTIC, TODAY I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST 00:01:30.46\00:01:34.26 RESPECTED THINKERS WE HAVE IN THE ADVENTIST CHURCH, 00:01:34.26\00:01:40.73 YOU'RE AN AUTHOR, I'VE READ A NUMBER OF YOUR 00:01:40.73\00:01:41.70 BOOKS. WE ARE GONNA GET A CHANCE TO TALK, 00:01:41.70\00:01:47.80 PARTICULARLY ABOUT YOUR COMMENTARY ON THE BOOK OF 00:01:47.80\00:01:49.50 HEBREWS, BUT, MAYBE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR VIEWERS 00:01:49.50\00:01:50.56 WE COULD START WITH A LITTLE HISTORY, OF WHO 00:01:50.56\00:01:53.60 GEORGE KNIGHT IS, MAYBE YOU COULD START WITH WHERE 00:01:53.60\00:01:57.30 YOU WERE BORN, WHERE YOU GREW UP. >>DR. KNIGHT: 00:01:57.30\00:01:58.40 OK. I WAS BORN IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND, RAISED 00:01:58.40\00:02:01.13 THERE MY ENTIRE LIFE UNTIL I WENT TO SEMENARY BACK IN 00:02:01.13\00:02:07.53 MICHIGAN. BACK IN THE MID 1960'S. >>Bill: NOW 00:02:07.53\00:02:08.66 YOU SAID YOU GREW UP AN AGNOSTIC. >>Dr. Knight: 00:02:08.66\00:02:12.60 YES. I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FAITH TO BE AN ATHEIST. AN 00:02:12.60\00:02:17.73 AGNOSTIC SAYS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA; WE JUST 00:02:17.73\00:02:18.73 CAN'T MAKE A DECISION. AND MY DAD HAD TOLD ME, WELL, 00:02:18.73\00:02:24.96 YOU CAN'T BE A CHRISTIAN BECAUSE ALL CHRISTIANS ARE 00:02:24.96\00:02:28.50 HYPOCRITS. AND SO I THOUGHT, WELL, I CAN'T 00:02:28.50\00:02:29.53 GO THAT WAY. I COULDN'T BELIEVE SOME OF THE 00:02:29.53\00:02:34.46 STUFF THEY WERE TRYING TO TEACH ME IN SCHOOL ABOUT 00:02:34.46\00:02:37.10 EVOLUTION. I SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T WORK 00:02:37.10\00:02:38.10 NOTHING COMES OUT OF NOTHING. AND SO I 00:02:38.10\00:02:40.43 JUST, YOU MIGHT SAY PUT IN LIMBO. NO WAY TO TELL WHAT 00:02:40.43\00:02:44.86 THE MEANING OF LIFE IS, THEREFORE, EAT, DRINK, AND 00:02:44.86\00:02:45.93 BE MERRY. LIVE IT UP FOR TODAY BECAUSE WE DON'T 00:02:45.93\00:02:51.20 KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE FUTURE. >>Bill: AND HOW 00:02:51.20\00:02:54.53 LONG WAS THAT, DID THAT THINKING CONTINUE 00:02:54.53\00:02:55.43 >>Dr.Knight: UNTIL I WAS ABOUT EIGHTEEN, , AND AT 00:02:55.43\00:02:58.13 THAT TIME I WAS IN THE ARMY AND I HAPPENED TO 00:02:58.13\00:03:04.20 COME HOME ONE WEEKEND AND I MET A YOUNG LADY WHO 00:03:04.20\00:03:05.20 WENT TO CHURCH. AND SHE WENT TO CHURCH ON SATURDAY 00:03:05.20\00:03:10.20 AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF STRANGE. BUT, I 00:03:10.20\00:03:15.00 WANTED TO BE WITH HER SO I STARTED GOING TO CHURCH 00:03:15.00\00:03:16.00 AND WHENEVER I WAS ON LEAVE I STARTED GOING TO 00:03:16.00\00:03:20.50 CHURCH AND THIS WENT ON, AND THEN AFTER WE WERE 00:03:20.50\00:03:22.33 MARRIED, THEN I WAS BAPTIZED AND I WENT TO 00:03:22.33\00:03:23.26 AN EVANGELISTIC SERIES IN EUREKA, CALIFORNIA AND AT 00:03:23.26\00:03:29.63 THE AGE OF 19 WAS BAPTIZED INTO THE SEVENTH DAY 00:03:29.63\00:03:33.30 ADVENTIST CHURCH. >>Bill: AND THEN ALL YOUR PROBLEMS 00:03:33.30\00:03:34.46 WERE OVER. LIFE WAS A PIECE OF CAKE FROM THAT 00:03:34.46\00:03:39.20 POINT ON. >>Dr.Knight: NO, NO. >>Bill: NO 00:03:39.20\00:03:40.70 >>Dr.Knight: NEVER HAD ANOTHER PROBLEM. BUT YOU 00:03:40.70\00:03:41.66 KNOW BILL, I WAS LIKE, I SUPPOSE LIKE NEW CONVERTS 00:03:41.66\00:03:43.76 THE FIRST THING I BEGAN TO DO WAS LOOK AROUND AT YOU 00:03:43.76\00:03:50.40 PASTORS, LOOKED AROUND THE CHURCH MEMBERS AND I CAME 00:03:50.40\00:03:51.46 TO ONE CONCLUSION. WHAT A MESS! YOU PEOPLE REALLY 00:03:51.46\00:03:57.13 WEREN'T PERFECT. YOU HADN'T TRIED HARD ENOUGH. 00:03:57.13\00:04:04.96 AND BY THIS TIME I WAS WORKING HIGH CONSTRUCTION 00:04:04.96\00:04:05.96 STRUCTURAL STEEL OVER SAN FRANSICO BAY AND I STILL 00:04:05.96\00:04:11.20 REMEMBER ONE DAY, SWINGING THERE AROUND UP IN THAT 00:04:11.20\00:04:17.73 STEEL, I PROMISED GOD THAT I WOULD BE THE FIRST 00:04:17.73\00:04:18.83 PERFECT CHRISTIAN SINCE JESUS. >>Bill: WOW. >>Dr. 00:04:18.83\00:04:24.43 Knight: NO PROBLEM ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS JUST TRY A 00:04:24.43\00:04:28.53 LITTLE HARDER.>>Bill: TRY HARDER. A LITTLE BIT MORE 00:04:28.53\00:04:29.56 EFFORT.>>Dr. Knight: I'D HAD 19 YEARS OF BEING BAD 00:04:29.56\00:04:31.86 AND THAT WASN'T HARD AND I FIGURED BEING GOOD IS JUST 00:04:31.86\00:04:36.86 HEADING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. >>Bill: HOW DID 00:04:36.86\00:04:37.83 THAT, HOW DID THAT GO FOR YOU?>>Dr. Knight: WELL, 00:04:37.83\00:04:41.70 LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. I WAS PRETTY DIFFICULT TO 00:04:41.70\00:04:46.03 LIVE WITH FOR AWHILE. 00:04:46.03\00:04:46.53 BECAUSE IF YOU ARE PERFECT BY DEFINITION EVERYBODY 00:04:46.53\00:04:49.36 ELSE IS.>>Bill: IMPERFECT.>>Dr. Knight 00:04:49.36\00:04:50.33 YEAH, IMPERFECT. AND IT CAME TO A BAD ENDING. 00:04:50.33\00:04:54.03 WELL, 8 YEARS LATER I WAS PASTORING DOWN IN 00:04:54.03\00:05:03.96 GALVESTON, TEXAS AND I WOKE UP ONE MORNING AND 00:05:03.96\00:05:04.96 I SAID THIS JUST DIDN'T WORK. I'M NOT PERFECT, 00:05:04.96\00:05:13.30 MY CHURCH IS MESSED UP, I'M OUT OF HERE. AND SO I 00:05:13.30\00:05:20.46 WROTE MY CONFERENCE PRESIDENT A LETTER AND 00:05:20.46\00:05:21.40 PUT IN MY MINISTERIAL CREDENTIALS AND RESIGNED 00:05:21.40\00:05:24.90 FROM THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST MINISTRY. 00:05:24.90\00:05:26.93 >>Bill: WOW. >>Dr. Knight: I NO LONGER WANTED TO BE 00:05:26.93\00:05:28.06 AN ADVENTIST MINISTER, I DIDN'T WANT TO BE AN 00:05:28.06\00:05:31.43 ADVENTIST OF ANY SORT, DIDN'T WANT TO BE A 00:05:31.43\00:05:33.13 CHRISTIAN. I WAS GOING TO GO BACK TO THE HAPPY 00:05:33.13\00:05:34.13 HEDONISM THAT I WAS BORN IN. AND SO, MY CONFERENCE 00:05:34.13\00:05:36.83 PRESIDENT, HE THOUGHT I WAS A NICE GUY HE THOUGHT 00:05:36.83\00:05:42.50 I WAS HAVING A BAD DAY. 00:05:42.50\00:05:43.03 NO, NO. I WASN'T HAVING A BAD DAY I WAS HAVING A BAD 00:05:43.03\00:05:46.86 LIFE SO I SENT THE CREDENTIALS BACK AGAIN. 00:05:46.86\00:05:47.80 >>Bill: HOW MANY TIMES DID IT TAKE BEFORE HE ACTUALLY 00:05:47.80\00:05:53.30 REALIZED THAT THIS WAS THE DECISION THAT YOU MADE? 00:05:53.30\00:05:57.43 >>Dr. Knight: THREE.>>Bill: THREE 00:05:57.43\00:05:58.23 TIMES.>>Dr. Knight: BUT THE THIRD TIME I WROTE HIM 00:05:58.23\00:05:59.83 A PRETTY FIREBALL LETTER AND, I TOLD HIM EXACTLY 00:05:59.83\00:06:02.00 HOW THE COW EATS THE CABBAGE. MY FIRST LITERARY 00:06:02.00\00:06:03.00 SUCCESS. I NEVER SAW MY CREDENTIALS AGAIN.>>Bill: 00:06:03.00\00:06:09.80 WOW. SO WHERE DID YOU GO?>>Dr. Knight: WELL, 00:06:09.80\00:06:13.63 THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM. 00:06:13.63\00:06:14.16 WHAT SHOULD I DO WITH MY LIFE? I HAD 3 DEGREES IN 00:06:14.16\00:06:19.90 THEOLOGY, I NEEDED TO RE-TOOL, WELL I THOUGHT I 00:06:19.90\00:06:21.00 SHOULD GO BACK TO SCHOOL. 00:06:21.00\00:06:24.06 SHOULD I BECOME THIS, SHOULD I BECOME A 00:06:24.06\00:06:24.96 HISTORIAN, WHAT SHOULD I DO? ONE THING I KNEW 00:06:24.96\00:06:26.90 I WOULDN'T BE WAS A THEOLOGIAN. AND SO 00:06:26.90\00:06:30.76 ACTUALLY I STUDIED PHILOSOPHY. I WAS 00:06:30.76\00:06:31.56 STILL LOOKING FOR THE ANSWER.>>Bill: WELL, 00:06:31.56\00:06:35.66 IF YOU COULDN'T FIND IT HERE THEN IT HAD TO BE 00:06:35.66\00:06:39.86 SOMEPLACE ELSE. 00:06:39.86\00:06:40.26 THE EAST WAS PROBABLY THE PLACE.>>Dr. Knight: WELL, 00:06:40.26\00:06:44.63 I TRIED THE EASTERN RELIGIONS. I TRIED JUST 00:06:44.63\00:06:45.60 ABOUT EVERYTHING. FOR 6 YEARS I DIDN'T READ 00:06:45.60\00:06:47.36 MY BIBLE. FOR 6 YEARS I DIDN'T PRAY. AND AT THE 00:06:47.36\00:06:54.26 END OF 6 YEARS SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAPPENED. I CAME 00:06:54.26\00:06:55.26 TO THE CONCLUSION THAT PHILOSOPHY DID NOT HOLD 00:06:55.26\00:06:59.26 ANY ULTIMATE ANSWERS TO THE MEANING OF LIFE. I 00:06:59.26\00:07:06.60 WENT THROUGH A CRISIS SECOND TO NONE. WHAT 00:07:06.60\00:07:07.53 DO YOU DO NOW? IS THERE MEANING ANYWHERE. AND 00:07:07.53\00:07:12.06 ABOUT THAT TIME I HAD A VISIT FROM A MAN I NEVER 00:07:12.06\00:07:21.66 WANTED TO SEE AGAIN. HE HAD BEEN MY FIRST BIBLE 00:07:21.66\00:07:22.83 TEACHER. HE KNEW MY PROBLEM. HE SPENT THE DAY 00:07:22.83\00:07:33.60 WITH MY WIFE AND MYSELF HE NEVER ONCE TALKED ABOUT 00:07:33.60\00:07:38.53 MY PROBLEM, HE JUST EXUDED THE LOVE OF JESUS. HE JUST 00:07:38.53\00:07:39.63 EXUDED A CONFIDENCE AND WHEN HE LEFT I LOOKED OVER 00:07:39.63\00:07:43.56 TO MY WIFE AND SAID, HE HAS WHAT I NEED. THAT DAY 00:07:43.56\00:07:55.86 I MET JESUS IN ANOTHER PERSON. AND THAT LEAD TO A 00:07:55.86\00:07:56.90 SERIES OF EVENTS IN WHICH I FOUND CHRIST AS MY 00:07:56.90\00:08:03.73 PERSONAL SAVIOUR IN A WAY THAT I DIDN'T KNOW HIM 00:08:03.73\00:08:08.36 BEFORE. MY FIRST CONVERSION WHICH I THINK 00:08:08.36\00:08:09.33 FOR MYSELF WAS A NECESSARY STEP. AND THAT IS THAT 00:08:09.33\00:08:12.96 CHRISTIANITY IS RIGHT, THAT GOD HAS A SYSTEM OF 00:08:12.96\00:08:17.93 DOCTORINE. THAT WAS ALL GREAT. THAT WAS DOCTORINAL 00:08:17.93\00:08:19.13 CONVERSION.>>Bill: YES, THAT'S RIGHT. >>Dr. 00:08:19.13\00:08:25.16 Knight: BUT WAS 14 YEARS LATER I MET CHRIST AS MY 00:08:25.16\00:08:27.76 SAVIOUR AND MY ADVENTISM GOT BAPTIZED.>>Bill: NOW, 00:08:27.76\00:08:28.90 HAD YOUR WIFE ALSO GONE THROUGH THE SIMILAR 00:08:28.90\00:08:35.06 EXPERIENCE?>>Dr. Knight SHE WAS IN A SIMILAR 00:08:35.06\00:08:37.40 EXPERIENCE, YES.>>Bill: WOW. >>Dr. Knight: IT WAS 00:08:37.40\00:08:38.43 A DIFFICULT TIME TO LIVE THROUGH. BUT YOU KNOW, 00:08:38.43\00:08:43.40 BILL,SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH DIFFICULT 00:08:43.40\00:08:47.83 THINGS BECAUSE WHEN WE GET LOW ENOUGH OUR EARS GET 00:08:47.83\00:08:48.90 BETTER AND WE CAN HEAR GOD SPEAK MORE PLAINLY. 00:08:48.90\00:08:54.06 >>Bill: SO THEN YOU BEGIN TO TRANSITION BACK. WHAT 00:08:54.06\00:08:57.86 WAS THAT LIKE TO STEP BACK INTO AN ADVENTIST CHURCH 00:08:57.86\00:08:58.90 AFTER 6 YEARS? >>Dr. 00:08:58.90\00:09:06.56 Knight: WELL, ACTUALLY, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I 00:09:06.56\00:09:07.56 WAS STILL A CHURCH MEMBER. 00:09:07.56\00:09:11.63 IT'S AN INTERESTING THING, THE WAY PEOPLE APPROACH, 00:09:11.63\00:09:12.66 APOSTITIZED. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPIRITUAL LIFE, YOU 00:09:12.66\00:09:18.20 KNOW, I WAS MOVING DOWN THE TRACK TOWARD, YOU 00:09:18.20\00:09:26.63 KNOW, HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH POST-ADVENTIST AS 00:09:26.63\00:09:27.66 A CULTURE. SO I STILL HAD ONE, YOU SAY, ONE FOOT IN. 00:09:27.66\00:09:32.43 AND THE LORD LED, ONE STEP AFTER ANOTHER. I NEVER 00:09:32.43\00:09:39.66 WENT BACK INTO PASTORAL MINISTRY AGAIN. I DID GO 00:09:39.66\00:09:40.66 BACK INTO TEACHING IN AN ADVENTIST ELEMENTARY 00:09:40.66\00:09:44.80 SCHOOL. AND BY THIS TIME I HAD A DOCTORITE IN THE 00:09:44.80\00:09:49.60 PHILOSOPHY OF EDUCATION. 00:09:49.60\00:09:50.10 AND AT THAT POINT I GOT A CALL FROM ANDREWS 00:09:50.10\00:09:55.40 UNIVERSITY TO TEACH A CHRISTIAN APPROACH TO 00:09:55.40\00:09:56.36 EDUCATION. AND I SPENT 9 YEARS DOING THAT AND IT 00:09:56.36\00:10:01.83 WAS IN A GRADUATE PROGRAM AND AS A RESULT MANY OF MY 00:10:01.83\00:10:08.70 STUDENTS WHO DID THEIR PHD'S DID THEIR 00:10:08.70\00:10:09.53 DISERTATION IN ADVENTIST EDUCATIONAL HISTORY.>> 00:10:09.53\00:10:13.23 Bill: INTERESTING. >>Dr. 00:10:13.23\00:10:13.70 Knight: SO WHEN THE ADVENTIST THEOLOGICAL 00:10:13.70\00:10:17.30 SEMENARY OPENED UP AN PHD PROGRAM IN ADVENTIST 00:10:17.30\00:10:20.43 STUDIES IN 1985, I DIRECTED THAT PROAM FOR 00:10:20.43\00:10:21.40 THE NEXT 30 YEARS, NEXT 27 YEARS.>> Bill: WELL, 00:10:21.40\00:10:28.90 WHAT AN INTERESTING EXPERIENCE.>>Dr. Knight: 00:10:28.90\00:10:34.40 WELL, BILL, IT'S NOT A LIFE THAT I WOULD EVER 00:10:34.40\00:10:35.36 WANT TO LIVE THROUGH AGAIN. BUT I'M GONNA TELL 00:10:35.36\00:10:37.13 YOU SOMETHING. I'D NEVER CHOOSE TO LIFE ANOTHER 00:10:37.13\00:10:38.60 ONE. GOD GROWS US EACH A LITTLE DIFFERENT.>>Bill: I 00:10:38.60\00:10:39.63 SAID THAT, I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTED 00:10:39.63\00:10:47.60 THEOLOGIANS WE HAVE IN THE CHURCH. YOU'RE PROBABLY, 00:10:47.60\00:10:50.20 MAYBE, ALMOST PROVOCATIVE ONES BECAUSE I THINK 00:10:50.20\00:10:51.26 YOU HAVE AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE ON CHURCH LIFE 00:10:51.26\00:10:56.56 AND THE WHOLE CHRISTIAN, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH 00:10:56.56\00:11:05.40 JESUS CHRIST. >>Dr. 00:11:05.40\00:11:05.86 Knight: WELL YOU KNOW BILL, MOST PEOPLE HAVE A 00:11:05.86\00:11:11.83 HARD TIME TELLING WHAT KIND OF A THEOLOGICAL 00:11:11.83\00:11:12.80 ANIMAL I AM. SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT GUY 00:11:12.80\00:11:18.20 IS ULTRACONSERVATIVE, NO, THAT GUYS AT THE OTHER END 00:11:18.20\00:11:21.13 OF THE SPECTRUM. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I AM NOT 00:11:21.13\00:11:22.13 CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK. I'M 00:11:22.13\00:11:25.50 CONCERNED BY THAT WHAT GOD THINKS. AND, REALLY, WHEN 00:11:25.50\00:11:32.06 I BECAME A SEVENTH- DAY ADVENTIST CHRISTIAN I LOST 00:11:32.06\00:11:33.23 MY FRIENDS, I LOST MY JOB, I LOST EVERYTHING. I EVEN 00:11:33.23\00:11:39.40 LOST MY FAMILY. IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TIME. BUT 00:11:39.40\00:11:45.70 FOR ME BECOMING A CHRISTIAN IS A RADICAL 00:11:45.70\00:11:46.56 THING YOU LEAVE OFF THE PAST AND MOVE INTO THE 00:11:46.56\00:11:51.96 FUTURE. BY THE WAY, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF 00:11:51.96\00:11:54.73 HEALING SINCE THAT TIME. 00:11:54.73\00:11:55.23 BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE RAISED IN A PARTICULAR 00:11:55.23\00:11:58.66 CONTEXT AND YOU GO AGAINST THE WISHES OF YOUR 00:11:58.66\00:11:59.63 PARENTS, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS AN EASY, AN EASY ROAD. 00:11:59.63\00:12:03.06 >>Bill: ABSOLUTELY.>>Dr. 00:12:03.06\00:12:03.53 Knight: AND SO BASICALLY THIS BOOK HAS BEEN 00:12:03.53\00:12:08.83 MY GUIDE. AND WHEREVER THE BOOK LEADS TO THAT'S WHERE 00:12:08.83\00:12:14.30 I, WITH GOD'S BLESSING AND GOD'S ENABLING, SEEK TO 00:12:14.30\00:12:15.36 GO. SO, YEAH, I HAVE SOME PRETTY RADICAL IDEAS AT 00:12:15.36\00:12:22.33 TIMES. SOMETIMES I SCARE PEOPLE. BUT I THINK THAT 00:12:22.33\00:12:25.86 JESUS DID TOO.>>Bill: I WOULD AGREE. >>Dr. Knight 00:12:25.86\00:12:26.90 YOU KNOW, WHAT I CALL JESUS IS A RADICAL 00:12:26.90\00:12:30.46 CONSERVATIVE. WELL, WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? WELL, 00:12:30.46\00:12:34.20 HE WAS TRYING ON CONSERVE THE OLD VALUES BUT HE 00:12:34.20\00:12:35.20 DIDN'T MIND BREAKING UP SOME OLD WINE SKINS IN THE 00:12:35.20\00:12:40.43 PROCESS.>>Bill: YES. >>Dr. 00:12:40.43\00:12:40.96 Knight: HE WAS A WINE SKIN SMASHING CONSERVATIVE. 00:12:40.96\00:12:45.93 BUT HE WASN'T A TRADITIONALIST. HE SAID, 00:12:45.93\00:12:52.10 YOU'VE HEARD IT SAID, BUT I SAY UNTO YOU, THEN 00:12:52.10\00:12:53.06 HE BROUGHT US BACK TO THE CORE OF THE MEANING OF 00:12:53.06\00:12:58.33 SCRIPTURE. AND, I'VE REALLY TRIED TO MAKE 00:12:58.33\00:13:02.76 CHRIST THE MODEL FOR MY LIFE. AND I THINK THAT 00:13:02.76\00:13:03.83 MOST PEOPLE AS CHRISTIANS DO HAVE THAT GOAL. BUT, 00:13:03.83\00:13:08.56 SOME OF US GET INVOLVED WITH THIS PARTY, OR THIS 00:13:08.56\00:13:13.73 CLUB, OR THIS ORIENTATION, I REALLY THINK THAT WHAT 00:13:13.73\00:13:14.90 WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS GET INVOLVED WITH THIS 00:13:14.90\00:13:19.40 ORIENTATION.>>Bill: YES. 00:13:19.40\00:13:19.86 ABSOLUTELY. ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THAT I 00:13:19.86\00:13:24.86 READ THAT YOU WROTE WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO I 00:13:24.86\00:13:32.60 GUESS AT THE WORLD GATHERING OF THE 00:13:32.60\00:13:33.36 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH IN 2000. YOU GAVE 00:13:33.36\00:13:37.56 A LECTURE, I DIDN'T ATTEND THAT, I READ IT LATER, 00:13:37.56\00:13:42.23 ENTITLED "IF I WERE THE DEVIL." AND, I HAVE TO 00:13:42.23\00:13:43.23 TELL YOU THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING 00:13:43.23\00:13:48.00 PIECES OF LITERARY WORK I HAVE EVER READ. IN FACT, I 00:13:48.00\00:13:53.40 QUOTE YOU IN THAT ALL TIME. I WAS WONDERING IF 00:13:53.40\00:13:54.36 YOU COULD, SORT OF, TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 00:13:54.36\00:13:58.30 WHAT WAS THE THINKING BEHIND THAT AND SHARE A 00:13:58.30\00:14:00.93 LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR 00:14:00.93\00:14:02.00 VIEWERS THAT HAVEN'T HAD THE BENEFIT OF READING 00:14:02.00\00:14:03.96 THAT OR HEARING THAT.>>Dr Knight: WELL, I WAS 00:14:03.96\00:14:05.80 INVITED ABOUT 2 WEEKS BEFORE THE GENERAL 00:14:05.80\00:14:06.66 CONFERENCE SESSION. THEY SAID WE HAVE FOUR OPEN 00:14:06.66\00:14:12.60 SLOTS. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME WITH PROVOCATIVE 00:14:12.60\00:14:18.86 IDEAS THAT WILL WAKE UP THE SAINTS. THEY SAID, 00:14:18.86\00:14:19.83 WE ARE PUTTING YOU IN THE FIRST ONE AND WE DON'T 00:14:19.83\00:14:23.03 WANT ANYBODY TO FALL ASLEEP. WELL, THAT SCARED 00:14:23.03\00:14:27.93 THE WITS OUT OF ME. 00:14:27.93\00:14:28.50 THE GENERAL CONFERENCE SESSION, A LITERARY 00:14:28.50\00:14:32.40 APPOINTMENT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU TAKE LIGHTLY 00:14:32.40\00:14:33.50 AND SO I THOUGHT WHAT IN THE WORLD AM I GONNA DO. 00:14:33.50\00:14:41.80 AND, I TAKE LONG WALKS EVERY DAY AND OFTEN THE 00:14:41.80\00:14:48.83 MOST FRUITFUL THOUGHTS COME OUT OF MY WALKING, AS 00:14:48.83\00:14:49.86 I'M MEDITATING, AS I LET MY HEAD SPIN. AND I PLAYED 00:14:49.86\00:14:54.90 A GAME FOR YEARS WITH MY STUDENTS, IT WAS JUST AN 00:14:54.90\00:15:01.06 OFF-HANDED SORT OF THING, IF I WERE THE DEVIL 00:15:01.06\00:15:02.03 HOW WOULD I CREATE THE GOVERNMENT? HOW WOULD 00:15:02.03\00:15:06.70 I CREATE, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD I MESS THINGS UP? 00:15:06.70\00:15:12.23 SO, THAT'S THE BASIC IDEA. IF I WERE THE DEVIL 00:15:12.23\00:15:13.20 WHAT WOULD I DO, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, TO THE 00:15:13.20\00:15:19.96 CHURCH? WELL, I'D GET THEM TO BE DEAF TO THEIR YOUNG 00:15:19.96\00:15:25.10 PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, LET'S FACE IT, YOU SEE THE 00:15:25.10\00:15:26.03 COLOR OF MY HAIR, IN FACT, THERE'S NOT MUCH THERE. 00:15:26.03\00:15:31.56 IT'S THE KIND OF GUYS WITH MY STYLE OF HAIR-DO THAT 00:15:31.56\00:15:35.03 GENERALLY RUN MOST RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS. 00:15:35.03\00:15:35.93 I WOULD SHUT THE YOUNG PEOPLE OUT. I WOULDN'T 00:15:35.93\00:15:39.73 LISTEN TO THEM, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO 00:15:39.73\00:15:44.66 KILL A CHURCH THAT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO DO IT. IF 00:15:44.66\00:15:45.83 YOU WANT TO KILL A CHURCH YOU JUST HAVE IT FORGET 00:15:45.83\00:15:48.16 WHAT IT STANDS FOR. WHAT IT'S DISTINCTIVE TEACHINGS 00:15:48.16\00:15:54.10 ARE, YOU DOWN PLAY THOSE THINGS. AND I WENT 00:15:54.10\00:15:55.10 THROUGH 10 OR 15, 10 OR 12 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I 00:15:55.10\00:16:02.00 WOULD DO IF I WERE THE DEVIL. AND THEN IN THE 00:16:02.00\00:16:06.96 CONCLUSION, A SHORT PART, IF I WERE GOD. THE 00:16:06.96\00:16:07.90 SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS OF THE CHURCH. GOD HAS A 00:16:07.90\00:16:18.66 WAY. HE WANTS TO REACH OUT HE WANTS TO TOUCH US. BUT 00:16:18.66\00:16:24.50 SOMETIMES WE NEED TO BE AWAKENED. WE NEED TO KNOW 00:16:24.50\00:16:25.53 WHERE WE'RE HURTING. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT OUR SORE 00:16:25.53\00:16:35.43 SPOTS ARE AND WHAT THE PATHWAY IS TO THE FUTURE. 00:16:35.43\00:16:39.03 SO ACTUALLY, WHAT I DID IS I USED THAT FRAMEWORK, 00:16:39.03\00:16:40.06 IF I WERE THE DEVIL, TO REALLY DO AN ANALYSIS 00:16:40.06\00:16:47.30 OF THE CHURCH. BUT I MUST ADMIT, A NEGATIVE ANALYSIS 00:16:47.30\00:16:52.70 IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A 00:16:52.70\00:16:53.66 NEGATIVE, YOU MUST ALWAYS COME UP WITH THE POSITIVE. 00:16:53.66\00:17:00.66 WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS? 00:17:00.66\00:17:01.16 AND SO, THAT SPEECH TURNED OUT, PROBABLY, TO BE ONE 00:17:01.16\00:17:06.90 OF THE MORE CONTROVERSIAL THINGS I'VE DONE. 00:17:06.90\00:17:11.93 ACTUALLY, I WAS SCARED.>>Bill: WHY?>> Dr. 00:17:11.93\00:17:13.00 Knight: I WAS SCARED TO PRESENT IT BECAUSE OF THE 00:17:13.00\00:17:21.76 SOME OF THE THINGS I FELT I HAD TO SAY. AND SO I 00:17:21.76\00:17:25.86 WENT TO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GENERAL CONFERENCE, 00:17:25.86\00:17:26.96 WHO INVITED ME TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION, THE NIGHT 00:17:26.96\00:17:35.13 BEFORE AND I SAID YOU MAY WANT TO READ THIS BEFORE 00:17:35.13\00:17:41.06 TOMORROW. HE SAID, NO GEORGE, HE SAYS I'M NOT 00:17:41.06\00:17:42.13 GOING TO READ IT. HE SAYS, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW 00:17:42.13\00:17:44.06 ONE THING. HE SAYS, THOSE OF US IN THE PRESIDENTAL 00:17:44.06\00:17:48.83 CIRCLE DON'T ALWAYS APPRECIATE WHAT YOU 00:17:48.83\00:17:49.73 SAY BUT WE KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT.>>Bill: WOW.>>Dr. 00:17:49.73\00:17:53.56 Knight: AND WITH THAT AFFIRMATION.>>Bill: 00:17:53.56\00:17:56.86 ABSOLUTELY. >>Dr. Knight: THEN I WENT BEFORE THAT 00:17:56.86\00:17:57.90 LARGE AUDIENCE THE NEXT DAY. AND WAS SOMEWHAT 00:17:57.90\00:18:00.36 ASTOUNDED AT THE RESPONSE IT WAS IMMEDIATE.>>Bill: 00:18:00.36\00:18:11.13 WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME AND I WANT TO 00:18:11.13\00:18:12.13 TRANSITION INTO THE.>>Dr. 00:18:12.13\00:18:15.73 Knight: I RECENTLY PUBLISHED A BOOK CALLED IF 00:18:15.73\00:18:16.80 I WERE THE DEVIL.>>Bill: YES.>>Dr. Knight: AND 00:18:16.80\00:18:19.36 THAT FIRST CHAPTER OF THAT BOOK IS AN EXCERP OF THAT 00:18:19.36\00:18:22.40 SPEECH.>>Bill: AND WE'LL HAVE, A LINK ON OUR 00:18:22.40\00:18:23.33 WEBSITE FOR ANY OF OUR VIEWERS WHO ARE INTERESTED 00:18:23.33\00:18:28.33 IN AQUIRING ANY OF DR. 00:18:28.33\00:18:28.80 KNIGHT'S BOOKS. YOU CAN VISIT OUR WEBSITE IIW.CA, 00:18:28.80\00:18:31.06 IT IS WRITTEN.CA AND THERE WILL A LINK THERE TO GET 00:18:31.06\00:18:34.93 THOSE. I WANT TO TRANSITION IN A MINUTE 00:18:34.93\00:18:35.76 OR SO INTO THE BOOK OF HEBREWS BECAUSE I'VE 00:18:35.76\00:18:40.83 READ THIS COMMENTARY ON HEBREWS. I THINK IT'S, YOU 00:18:40.83\00:18:47.30 MAKE REFERENCE THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE MOST 00:18:47.30\00:18:48.40 POPULAR BOOK IN THE NEW TESTIMENT BUT MAYBE ONE OF 00:18:48.40\00:18:50.13 THE MOST RELEVANT, IF NOT THE MOST RELEVANT FOR OUR 00:18:50.13\00:18:53.36 SOCIETY TODAY. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S 00:18:53.36\00:18:54.43 WHAT OUR SERIES IS GOING TO BE ABOUT HERE. BUT 00:18:54.43\00:18:57.26 IN A NUTSHELL, IN YOUR ASSESSMENT, WHAT WOULD BE 00:18:57.26\00:19:00.70 THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT'S PLAGUING THE CHURCH 00:19:00.70\00:19:01.70 TODAY? >>Dr. Knight: NOW THAT IS A HARD QUESTION. 00:19:01.70\00:19:04.03 BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE CHURCH IS STILL ON EARTH 00:19:04.03\00:19:10.26 THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE FACE. ALL OTHER 00:19:10.26\00:19:11.33 PROBLEMS FOLLOW THAT ONE. 00:19:11.33\00:19:16.53 NOW, IF YOU WANT ME TO GET A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC, 00:19:16.53\00:19:17.60 AND THAT IS THAT PEOPLE TOO OFTEN DON'T REALLY 00:19:17.60\00:19:20.40 UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CENTER OF THE FAITH IS. 00:19:20.40\00:19:26.80 THEY MIGHT BELIEVE THE SABBATH, OR WHAT HAPPENS 00:19:26.80\00:19:27.76 TO A PERSON WHEN THEY DIE, BUT, I'M TELLING YOU 00:19:27.76\00:19:31.00 RIGHT NOW BILL, IT'S A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS 00:19:31.00\00:19:35.30 CHRIST, AS LORD AND SAVIOUR. ONCE YOU HAVE 00:19:35.30\00:19:36.33 THAT RELATIONSHIP, EVERYTHING ELSE FALLS INTO 00:19:36.33\00:19:38.96 PLACE. IN FACT, SOME THE DIFFICULTIES WE SEE IN OUR 00:19:38.96\00:19:44.96 LOCAL CHURCH COMMUNITY, WHERE PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS 00:19:44.96\00:19:46.00 GET ALONG SO WELL. THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS ARE 00:19:46.00\00:19:50.13 SOLVED ONCE JESUS IS AT THE CENTER WE SEE HOW HE 00:19:50.13\00:19:53.00 RELATED TO PEOPLE. JESUS AS SAVIOUR, JESUS AS LORD, 00:19:53.00\00:19:54.13 THAT IS THE MODEL FOR MY LIFE.>>Bill: THAT'S 00:19:54.13\00:20:03.16 WONDERFUL. WELL, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A BIT OF 00:20:03.16\00:20:07.23 THAT CONTEXT INTO YOUR LIFE AND SOME OF YOUR 00:20:07.23\00:20:08.20 THINKING. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN TO TRANSITION INTO 00:20:08.20\00:20:10.66 THE DISCUSSION THAT WILL, SORT OF, FORM THE THEME OF 00:20:10.66\00:20:15.16 A COUPLE, YOU'VE AGREED TO BE HERE WITH US FOR A FEW 00:20:15.16\00:20:16.23 WEEKS LOOKING A THE BOOK OF HEBREWS AND SOME THE 00:20:16.23\00:20:19.76 INTERESTING, MAYBE WE COULD TRANSITION TO THAT 00:20:19.76\00:20:23.53 AT THIS POINT. WHAT IS IT ABOUT, I'LL TELL YA, I'VE 00:20:23.53\00:20:24.56 READ THE BOOK OF HEBREWS, I'VE READ YOUR COMMENTARY, 00:20:24.56\00:20:31.33 IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE MOST EXCITING READS IN THE 00:20:31.33\00:20:34.66 NEW TESTAMENT.>>Dr. 00:20:34.66\00:20:35.13 Knight: WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE. FOR MOST 00:20:35.13\00:20:38.26 OF US IT'S NOT BUT DON'T YOU EVER ASK WHAT'S JESUS 00:20:38.26\00:20:39.26 BEEN DOING FOR THESE 2000 YEARS? HEBREWS IS THE BOOK 00:20:39.26\00:20:44.80 THAT ANSWERS THAT.>>Bill WHEN WAS THE BOOK OF 00:20:44.80\00:20:49.56 HEBREWS WRITTEN? >>Dr. 00:20:49.56\00:20:50.06 Knight: WELL, IT DOESN'T TELL US IN THE TEXT, BUT 00:20:50.06\00:20:59.30 THE BEST EVIDENCE IS IT WAS BEFORE THE YEAR AD. 00:20:59.30\00:21:00.40 70. NOW, WHY AD. 70? 00:21:00.40\00:21:08.90 BECAUSE THE JEWISH TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED IN THAT YEAR 00:21:08.90\00:21:09.96 BY THE LEGIONS OF ROME. 00:21:09.96\00:21:15.00 COMPLETELY FLATTENED OUT TO THE GROUND. AND HEBREWS 00:21:15.00\00:21:16.03 ACTS AS IF THE TEMPLE IS STILL THERE. OTHERWISE, 00:21:16.03\00:21:23.80 THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A BOOK OF HEBREWS. BECAUSE 00:21:23.80\00:21:28.73 THESE PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE DISCOURAGED, THERE WAS 00:21:28.73\00:21:29.76 THIS BIG TEMPLE, WHAT HAVE WE GOT? SO THE WHOLE 00:21:29.76\00:21:35.33 BASIS OF HEBREWS ASSUMES A STANDING TEMPLE. THAT 00:21:35.33\00:21:40.76 WOULD MEAN THAT HEBREWS WAS PROBABLY WRITTEN 00:21:40.76\00:21:41.73 IN THE LATE 60'S OF THE CHRISTIAN ERA.>>Bill: 00:21:41.73\00:21:46.66 THERE'S SOME QUESTION AS TO AUTHORSHIP ALSO. >>Dr. 00:21:46.66\00:21:52.30 Knight: WELL THAT IS AN INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE NO 00:21:52.30\00:21:53.50 WHERE IN THE ENTIRE BOOK DOES IT MENTION AN AUTHOR. 00:21:53.50\00:21:59.83 NOR ANY NAMES, NOR ANY PLACE NAMES. YOU KNOW, YOU 00:21:59.83\00:22:09.16 TAKE GALATIONS FIRST SENTENCE COMES FROM THE 00:22:09.16\00:22:10.13 APOSTLE PAUL. MOST, IN FACT, THAT'S THE WAY 00:22:10.13\00:22:16.63 PEOPLE WROTE LETTERS. JOHN IS SPEAKING. NOW JUDE SAYS 00:22:16.63\00:22:24.00 HE'S JUST A BROTHER OF THE LORD THE WAY YOU TRACK 00:22:24.00\00:22:25.03 DOWN THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW. HE'S A BROTHER 00:22:25.03\00:22:29.06 JAMES, WHO'S A BROTHER OF THE LORD. BUT NEARLY 00:22:29.06\00:22:33.90 EVERYBODY GIVES HINTS. 00:22:33.90\00:22:34.40 HEBREWS GIVES NO HINTS AS TO AUTHORSHIP. 00:22:34.40\00:22:39.86 TRADITIONALLY PEOPLE HAVE FELT THE BEST CANDIDATE IS 00:22:39.86\00:22:40.93 THE APOSTLE PAUL, BUT THEN THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO 00:22:40.93\00:22:43.56 HAVE DONE ALL THESE WORD ANALYSIS AND EVERYTHING 00:22:43.56\00:22:47.50 ELSE AND THEY SAID THAT THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE 00:22:47.50\00:22:48.66 PAUL, WELL, IT DOES AND IT DOESN'T BUT HE DOES USE 00:22:48.66\00:22:53.26 SOME DIFFERENT WORDS BUT HE'S SPEAKING ABOUT A 00:22:53.26\00:22:55.90 DIFFERENT TOPIC. IF ONE WANTS TO BE COMPLETELY 00:22:55.90\00:22:56.90 SAFE, AND ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE ITSELF YOU JUST SAY 00:22:56.90\00:23:04.50 THE AUTHOR OF HEBREWS AND THAT LEAVES THE SITUATION 00:23:04.50\00:23:08.86 OPEN. NOW THE GOOD NEWS, BILL, IS THAT 00:23:08.86\00:23:09.70 THEOLOGICALLY SPEAKING IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY 00:23:09.70\00:23:16.20 DIFFERENCE. THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR. THERE ARE NOT 00:23:16.20\00:23:22.03 CONTEXTUAL ISSUES THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC IF IT 00:23:22.03\00:23:23.06 WAS APOLOS AS OPPOSED TO PAUL, FOR EXAMPLE. 00:23:23.06\00:23:30.96 SO, YEAH, IT'S A QUESTION THAT CAN'T BE SETTLED FROM 00:23:30.96\00:23:34.33 SCRIPTURE ITSELF BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THE MESSAGE 00:23:34.33\00:23:35.40 IS NOT CHANGED. >>Bill: WHAT WOULD BE THAT CORE 00:23:35.40\00:23:39.43 MESSAGE, THAT MAJOR THEME OF THE BOOK OF HEBREWS? 00:23:39.43\00:23:42.33 >>Dr. Knight: JESUS. YOU KNOW ONE OF THESE DAYS 00:23:42.33\00:23:43.30 WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WE'LL DO A LITTLE OUTLINE OF, 00:23:43.30\00:23:49.70 WE CAN DO THAT NOW IF YOU WANT.>>Bill: WELL, WE ONLY 00:23:49.70\00:23:52.40 HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES LEFT. >>Dr. Knight: WELL, 00:23:52.40\00:23:53.40 WE CAN DO IT NOW OR AT THE BEGINNING OF ANOTHER 00:23:53.40\00:23:55.86 PROGRAM. >>Bill: WHY DON'T WE DO THAT. SO JESUS IS 00:23:55.86\00:23:58.80 THE THEME, SO THAT'S THE .>>Dr. Knight: LET ME PUT 00:23:58.80\00:23:59.80 IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. I CAN OUTLINE IT WHEN I'VE 00:23:59.80\00:24:03.60 GOT A LITTLE MORE TIME BUT LET ME PUT IT IN A 00:24:03.60\00:24:06.10 DIFFERENT WAY. MANY OF US, ALL OF US AS CHRISTIANS 00:24:06.10\00:24:07.16 UNDERSTAND WHAT PAUL SAID. 00:24:07.16\00:24:13.40 THAT JESUS DIED FOR US, THAT'S THE GOSPEL. BUT 00:24:13.40\00:24:14.40 YOU KNOW WHAT BILL, A DEAD SAVIOUR WON'T DO YOU ANY 00:24:14.40\00:24:21.80 GOOD. THEREFORE, PART OF THE GOSPEL IS THAT HE ROSE 00:24:21.80\00:24:26.76 AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY. 00:24:26.76\00:24:27.43 GOSPEL IS THE CROSS AND THE RESURRECTION, BUT YOU 00:24:27.43\00:24:34.16 KNOW BILL, THAT WAS 2000 YEARS AGO AND BABIES ARE 00:24:34.16\00:24:35.13 STILL DYING FROM CANCER, PEOPLE ARE STILL GETTING 00:24:35.13\00:24:42.33 OLD. THIS IS NOT THE KINGDOM. WHEN JESUS CAME 00:24:42.33\00:24:48.76 IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE KINGDOM. WELL, THE 00:24:48.76\00:24:49.83 LAST PART OF THE GOSPEL IS THAT JESUS IS COMING 00:24:49.83\00:24:54.70 AGAIN. NOW, WE'VE GOT 2000 YEARS BETWEEN THE 00:24:54.70\00:25:00.70 RESURRECTION AND THE SECOND ADVENT.>>Bill 00:25:00.70\00:25:01.53 YEAH, YEAH. >>Dr. Knight: NOW, WHAT IS JESUS DOING? 00:25:01.53\00:25:06.90 AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR MY LIFE? THERE'S ONLY 00:25:06.90\00:25:12.60 ONE BOOK IN THE BIBLE THAT REALLY GOES INTO DETAIL 00:25:12.60\00:25:13.76 ABOUT WHAT CHRIST IS DOING AND THAT IS THE BOOK OF 00:25:13.76\00:25:19.60 HEBREWS. PROBABLY, WELL, OF THE LARGER BOOKS OF THE 00:25:19.60\00:25:25.83 NEW TESTAMENT, ONE OF THOSE THAT IS MOST 00:25:25.83\00:25:26.70 NEGLECTED. >>Bill: I THINK THAT YOU HAVE JUST 00:25:26.70\00:25:29.46 ARTICULATED THE PERFECT CLIFFHANGER. I HOPE OUR 00:25:29.46\00:25:34.43 VIEWERS WILL JOIN US NEXT WEEK AS WE GO INTO THE 00:25:34.43\00:25:35.43 BOOK OF HEBREWS AND FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT JESUS 00:25:35.43\00:25:39.63 HAS BEEN DOING SINCE HE ASCENDED. LET'S PRAY. 00:25:39.63\00:25:45.73 FATHER IN HEAVEN, THANK YOU FOR THIS PRECIOUS TIME 00:25:45.73\00:25:46.80 WE HAD TOGETHER IN YOUR WORD. WE THANK YOU FOR A 00:25:46.80\00:25:50.76 MAN LIKE DR. KNIGHT THAT YOU HAVE CALLED, THAT YOU 00:25:50.76\00:25:54.40 HAVE USED AS AN INSTRUMENT. MAY YOU 00:25:54.40\00:25:55.16 CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN HIM AND ENLIGHTEN HIM THAT HE 00:25:55.16\00:25:58.76 MAY CONTINUE TO PROCLAIM YOUR TRUTH AND LIVES MAY 00:25:58.76\00:26:01.86 BE CHANGED. WE THINK OF OUR VIEWERS LISTENING AND 00:26:01.86\00:26:02.90 WATCHING US TODAY. MAY YOUR HAND BE UPON THEM, 00:26:02.90\00:26:08.40 BLESS THEM MIGHTILY WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. 00:26:08.40\00:26:11.83 >>Dr. Knight: AMEN. 00:26:11.83\00:26:15.03 Bill: WELL, OUR SPECIAL OFFER FOR YOU THIS WEEK IS 00:26:18.23\00:26:19.30 SHAWN BOONSTRA'S BOOK "OH, JERUSALEM, JERUSALEM." A 00:26:19.30\00:26:22.96 VERY INTERESTING BOOK THAT COVERS MANY OF THE TOPICS 00:26:22.96\00:26:28.06 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS 00:26:28.06\00:26:29.00 SERIES. IT IS OUR GIFT TO YOU. HERE'S THE 00:26:29.00\00:26:31.86 INFORMATION YOU NEED TO AQUIRE YOUR COPY. 00:26:31.86\00:26:34.96 WELL, WE'VE COME TO THE END OF ANOTHER IT IS 00:27:02.96\00:27:04.00 WRITTEN EPISODE. I WANT TO THANK OUR VIEWERS FOR 00:27:04.00\00:27:06.10 BEING WITH US. I WANT TO THANK DR. KNIGHT. MAYBE 00:27:06.10\00:27:08.36 BEFORE WE LEAVE DR. 00:27:08.36\00:27:08.83 KNIGHT YOU COULD TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS 00:27:08.83\00:27:11.73 SERIES OF COMMENTARIES THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH THE 00:27:11.73\00:27:12.70 BOOK OF HEBREWS IS ONE OF THEM.>>Dr. Knight: AS 00:27:12.70\00:27:16.00 I THOUGHT ABOUT THINGS, BILL, I SAID TO MYSELF, 00:27:16.00\00:27:18.20 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REALLY NEED A SIMPLE WAY OF 00:27:18.20\00:27:19.16 GETTING INTO SCRIPTURE. 00:27:19.16\00:27:23.03 SOMETIMES IT'S NOT OH, IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND. 00:27:23.03\00:27:24.00 SO, I STARTED A SERIES OF WHICH THE 6TH ONE IS 00:27:24.00\00:27:28.06 NOW IN PRESS, EXPLORING HEBREWS, EXPLORING MARK, 00:27:28.06\00:27:30.46 EXPLORING GALATIANS AND EPHESIANS, EXPLORING 00:27:30.46\00:27:31.40 ECCLESIASTES AND THE SONG OF SOLOMON, EXPLORING THE 00:27:31.40\00:27:35.00 LETTERS OF JOHN AND JUDE, AND JUST NOW, SENT IN 00:27:35.00\00:27:39.33 EXPLORING ROMANS. BITE SIZED PORTIONS, THREE OR 00:27:39.33\00:27:40.30 FOUR PAGES EACH ON EACH SECTION OF SCRIPTURE TO 00:27:40.30\00:27:44.93 HELP PEOPLE GET IN TO EXPLORE THE WORD MORE 00:27:44.93\00:27:48.36 THOROUGHLY.>>Bill: THERE'S A LINK TO THESE ON 00:27:48.36\00:27:49.33 OUR WEBSITE AT IIW.CA AND UNTIL NEXT WEEK REMEMBER, 00:27:49.33\00:27:52.93 IT IS WRITTEN MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE 00:27:52.93\00:27:59.26 BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM 00:27:59.26\00:28:00.13 THE MOUTH OF GOD. 00:28:00.13\00:28:03.86 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 00:28:06.26\00:28:07.76