¤¤[music ends]¤¤ 00:00:15.34\00:00:17.35 >>John Bradshaw: This is It Is Written. 00:00:19.01\00:00:20.78 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me. 00:00:20.82\00:00:23.45 Up until the 16th century the Bible was not a book 00:00:23.49\00:00:27.62 that you could have owned. 00:00:27.66\00:00:29.36 It wasn't available in local languages. 00:00:29.39\00:00:31.86 It was written in Latin. And owing to printing 00:00:31.89\00:00:34.93 being a labor-intensive and time-consuming business, 00:00:34.96\00:00:39.17 Bibles weren't printed in any real number. 00:00:39.20\00:00:42.10 Even when the moveable type printing press came to be, 00:00:42.14\00:00:44.67 thanks to a German goldsmith named Johannes Gutenberg, 00:00:44.71\00:00:48.34 printing was still a slow and extremely expensive enterprise. 00:00:48.38\00:00:53.05 But the Reformation began, and it grew. 00:00:53.08\00:00:56.32 And while we tend to think of the Reformation 00:00:56.35\00:00:58.02 in terms of Germany and Luther and his partner in ministry, 00:00:58.05\00:01:01.36 Melanchthon, and the city of Wittenberg, 00:01:01.39\00:01:04.03 the Reformation grew and spread: 00:01:04.06\00:01:06.90 Switzerland, under Ulrich Zwingli in the north 00:01:06.93\00:01:09.90 and John Calvin in the south, 00:01:09.93\00:01:11.90 France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Scandinavia-- 00:01:11.93\00:01:15.77 all impacted strongly by the Reformation. 00:01:15.80\00:01:19.81 The Reformation gained momentum early in Great Britain. 00:01:19.84\00:01:23.71 Years before Luther, John Wycliffe translated the Bible 00:01:23.75\00:01:27.15 into English in the 1300s. 00:01:27.18\00:01:28.75 He was known as "the Morning Star of the Reformation." 00:01:28.78\00:01:33.02 Wycliffe was really the sign that the Word of God 00:01:33.05\00:01:36.26 simply couldn't be stopped. 00:01:36.29\00:01:38.56 Later, the Reformation was kicked into high gear 00:01:38.59\00:01:40.66 in Britain when the Bible was translated into English again. 00:01:40.70\00:01:44.03 ¤[soft piano music]¤ 00:01:44.07\00:01:45.20 Dr. Michael Hasel is a university professor, 00:01:45.23\00:01:48.44 a noted archaeologist, 00:01:48.47\00:01:50.67 and the director of the Lynn H. Wood Archaeological Museum 00:01:50.71\00:01:54.38 on the campus of Southern Adventist University, 00:01:54.41\00:01:57.65 just outside Chattanooga, Tennessee. 00:01:57.68\00:02:00.32 Dr. Hasel and I discussed an exhibit of rare books 00:02:00.35\00:02:02.85 that told the story of the rise of the Reformation 00:02:02.88\00:02:06.02 and the advancement of the Reformation, 00:02:06.05\00:02:07.89 which brought the light of the Bible, 00:02:07.92\00:02:10.33 the teachings of Scripture to the world, broadly, 00:02:10.36\00:02:14.63 for the first time in hundreds of years. 00:02:14.66\00:02:18.13 Dr. Hasel and I discussed the English Reformation, 00:02:18.17\00:02:20.94 which was as influential as what was taking place 00:02:20.97\00:02:23.91 in Wittenberg, Germany, 550 miles to the east. 00:02:23.94\00:02:28.21 ¤[music fades]¤ 00:02:28.24\00:02:29.44 >>Dr. Michael Hasel: You know, the English Reformation 00:02:29.48\00:02:31.21 was happening almost at the same time 00:02:31.25\00:02:33.52 as Luther was working in Germany. 00:02:33.55\00:02:36.15 In fact, many of these people communicated with each other 00:02:36.18\00:02:38.99 and knew each other. 00:02:39.02\00:02:40.52 Tyndale, for one, went to Wittenberg 00:02:40.56\00:02:42.76 to talk to Luther at one point 00:02:42.79\00:02:44.76 about his translation of the Bible and so forth, 00:02:44.79\00:02:47.86 and he was one that began the work of translating in England. 00:02:47.93\00:02:52.70 >>John: How was society affected by the Bible 00:02:52.73\00:02:54.64 becoming so much more readily accessible? 00:02:54.67\00:02:57.64 >>Dr. Hasel: Well, like in Germany, 00:02:57.67\00:02:59.24 the Bible had a tremendous impact in England as well. 00:02:59.27\00:03:02.71 When Tyndale was finally caught in Belgium and executed 00:03:02.74\00:03:07.92 by Henry VIII, the last prayer that he prayed was, 00:03:07.95\00:03:12.82 "Lord, please open the eyes of the monarch." 00:03:12.85\00:03:15.52 And for the first time the king's eyes in England 00:03:15.56\00:03:18.33 were opened, and he considered the Protestant Reformation 00:03:18.36\00:03:21.80 as a viable, uh, reaction to things that were going on 00:03:21.83\00:03:25.23 in his household, and, you know, there were a lot 00:03:25.27\00:03:27.10 of other aspects that were going on, 00:03:27.14\00:03:28.87 but he sent this response that we have here 00:03:28.90\00:03:32.04 to the pope in 1536. 00:03:32.07\00:03:34.21 That was only two years after Luther finished translating 00:03:34.24\00:03:37.38 the entire Bible in Germany. 00:03:37.41\00:03:39.35 Now, before Tyndale was killed, 00:03:39.38\00:03:42.15 he had completed the entire New Testament translation. 00:03:42.18\00:03:45.42 He had also done part of the Old Testament 00:03:45.45\00:03:48.52 but wasn't able to complete that. 00:03:48.56\00:03:50.36 And so it was Coverdale, Myles Coverdale, 00:03:50.39\00:03:52.86 that finished the Old Testament and was able to publish it. 00:03:52.89\00:03:55.06 And that's what we have here is one page 00:03:55.10\00:03:57.53 of the famous Coverdale Bible published in 1535, 00:03:57.57\00:04:00.50 the year after Luther's Bible was published. 00:04:00.54\00:04:02.94 >>John: This page itself dates back to 1535? 00:04:02.97\00:04:06.17 >>Dr. Hasel: It's a first edition page; that's correct. 00:04:06.21\00:04:08.41 And the Coverdale Bible was not the best translation 00:04:08.44\00:04:12.11 into the English language. 00:04:12.15\00:04:13.55 And later on there was the Great Bible; 00:04:13.58\00:04:16.02 there was the Bishops' Bible. 00:04:16.05\00:04:17.35 There were other Bibles that came along. 00:04:17.39\00:04:19.85 Just a couple of years later in 1537, we have this Bible here, 00:04:19.89\00:04:24.33 known as the Thomas Matthew Bible. 00:04:24.36\00:04:26.39 But Matthews knew what had happened to Tyndale, 00:04:26.43\00:04:30.00 and so Matthews is not his real name; 00:04:30.03\00:04:32.00 he used a pseudonym to publish this Bible. 00:04:32.03\00:04:34.20 His real name was John Rogers. 00:04:34.24\00:04:36.71 He says, "I'm not going to take the risk 00:04:36.74\00:04:38.41 of having my life taken." He knew the risk was there. 00:04:38.44\00:04:41.28 He knew that while Henry VIII was leaning 00:04:41.31\00:04:43.91 more towards Protestantism as time went on, 00:04:43.95\00:04:47.05 things could change very rapidly. 00:04:47.08\00:04:48.82 The political dynamics could change. 00:04:48.85\00:04:50.65 He knew that the first daughter of Henry VIII, Princess Mary, 00:04:50.69\00:04:54.32 could be the next queen eventually, 00:04:54.36\00:04:56.32 and she was a staunch Catholic. 00:04:56.36\00:04:58.09 She was the daughter of Catherine of Aragon, 00:04:58.13\00:05:00.36 who was the daughter of the king and the queen of Spain. 00:05:00.40\00:05:02.00 So they were staunch Catholics. 00:05:02.03\00:05:03.80 And this was all a very, very important element 00:05:03.83\00:05:06.90 in the back of his mind. 00:05:06.94\00:05:08.44 But he produced this Bible; it's a beautiful Bible, 1537. 00:05:08.47\00:05:12.77 The sad thing was that as things progressed, 00:05:12.81\00:05:15.64 his fears were actually realized. 00:05:15.68\00:05:18.01 Henry VIII died; his son King Edward VI came to the throne. 00:05:18.05\00:05:22.68 He was a young, young boy. And he was not, uh, very well. 00:05:22.72\00:05:27.06 He was known to be a sickly individual. 00:05:27.09\00:05:29.09 He didn't live a very long time. 00:05:29.12\00:05:30.99 But he lived long enough to publish this very fine work, 00:05:31.03\00:05:34.56 entitled "Arguments Against the Pope's Supremacy." 00:05:34.56\00:05:37.07 You can still look this up online today 00:05:37.10\00:05:39.37 and read through it. It's, has very cogent arguments, um, 00:05:39.40\00:05:43.44 about, um, the authority of Scripture and allowing Scripture 00:05:43.47\00:05:47.48 to really be the basis for faith. 00:05:47.51\00:05:50.41 He published this, and on his death bed, 00:05:50.45\00:05:52.95 he changed his will and pronounced his cousin, 00:05:52.98\00:05:56.79 Lady Jane, as the heir to the throne of England 00:05:56.82\00:06:00.16 as the next queen, knowing that his half-sister Mary would turn 00:06:00.19\00:06:04.09 everything around and make it Catholic again. 00:06:04.13\00:06:06.46 Lady Jane came to the throne, and a few, uh, days later 00:06:06.49\00:06:10.37 Mary comes down from the north with her armies. 00:06:10.40\00:06:13.07 The Privy Council switches sides, 00:06:13.10\00:06:15.64 and it's the shortest reign in history of any queen of England. 00:06:15.67\00:06:18.44 Uh, Lady Jane only lasts for nine days. 00:06:18.47\00:06:21.48 And Mary is inaugurated as queen in Westminster Abbey. 00:06:21.51\00:06:27.65 And the first thing that Mary does, once she is queen, 00:06:27.68\00:06:31.55 is put to death John Rogers-- or Thomas Matthews-- 00:06:31.59\00:06:34.76 who had translated this Bible. 00:06:34.79\00:06:36.42 And that begins a series of persecutions during her reign 00:06:36.46\00:06:40.83 that would continue for the next five years or so. 00:06:40.86\00:06:43.80 She became known, of course, as Bloody Mary. 00:06:43.83\00:06:46.47 >>John: A couple of things come to mind here. 00:06:46.50\00:06:48.07 One, there's a tendency to forget our history. 00:06:48.10\00:06:51.57 Two, it's easy to forget just what a big deal this was. 00:06:51.61\00:06:55.81 >>Dr. Hasel: Mm. 00:06:55.84\00:06:56.71 >>John: This is how we got the Bible. 00:06:56.75\00:06:58.21 Without the Tyndales, uh, and the Rogers of the world 00:06:58.25\00:07:02.68 willing to almost, you know, to stick their neck out, 00:07:02.72\00:07:04.99 put their life on the line, uh, things would look 00:07:05.02\00:07:07.62 very different today. >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. 00:07:07.66\00:07:08.82 >>John: I mean, one could argue the Bible would eventually 00:07:08.86\00:07:10.46 bubble to the surface, but you know what I mean. 00:07:10.49\00:07:12.43 These people paved the way for people like us 00:07:12.46\00:07:15.53 to have faith in God 00:07:15.56\00:07:16.73 by delivering the Bible to us. >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. 00:07:16.77\00:07:18.63 >>John: It wasn't readily available. 00:07:18.67\00:07:19.87 It speaks to that sacrifice and the importance of the Bible. 00:07:19.90\00:07:23.07 How do you not value the Bible 00:07:24.07\00:07:25.37 when you consider what people have done to preserve it 00:07:25.41\00:07:27.54 and deliver it to us today? >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. 00:07:27.58\00:07:29.71 >>John: It was a... fascinating time. 00:07:29.74\00:07:34.02 People were being put to death for their faith in God. 00:07:34.05\00:07:36.79 The authorities did not want the Bible to be circulated. 00:07:36.82\00:07:40.12 Monarchs were ascending the throne and executing the people 00:07:40.16\00:07:43.22 who didn't agree with them on religious matters. 00:07:43.26\00:07:46.49 As the church began to lose ground, 00:07:46.53\00:07:47.96 it was recognized that something had to be done 00:07:48.00\00:07:50.47 to preserve its power. 00:07:50.50\00:07:52.70 The church began to push back, and it all affected 00:07:52.73\00:07:56.34 how people would relate to the Bible even today. 00:07:56.37\00:08:00.61 I'll be right back. 00:08:00.64\00:08:01.78 ¤[music swells and ends]¤¤ 00:08:01.81\00:08:08.82 >>Announcer: Call now for today's free offer, 00:08:11.05\00:08:13.12 "From Script to Scripture." 00:08:13.15\00:08:14.96 Enjoy the rest of the conversation 00:08:14.99\00:08:16.46 between John Bradshaw and Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:08:16.49\00:08:19.19 including faith-building stories we couldn't fit 00:08:19.23\00:08:21.43 into today's program. 00:08:21.46\00:08:23.13 A rare opportunity to turn the pages of history, 00:08:23.16\00:08:26.00 see books that changed the world 00:08:26.03\00:08:27.80 and learn insights that will grow your faith in God. 00:08:27.84\00:08:31.04 Call 800-253-3000 00:08:31.07\00:08:33.38 for the free DVD, 00:08:33.41\00:08:34.91 800-253-3000 00:08:34.94\00:08:37.41 or visit iiwoffer.com. 00:08:37.45\00:08:39.95 >>John Bradshaw: Thanks for joining me on It Is Written. 00:08:41.92\00:08:44.42 When Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door 00:08:44.45\00:08:47.39 of the Castle Church in Wittenberg, Germany, 00:08:47.42\00:08:50.33 it was a case of an obscure priest 00:08:50.36\00:08:52.09 in a nothing-sort-of-a-town speaking out about what 00:08:52.13\00:08:55.00 he believed was inconsistent with genuine faith in God. 00:08:55.03\00:08:58.97 But people noticed what Luther wrote, 00:08:59.00\00:09:01.57 and his 95 points of protest were distributed far and wide. 00:09:01.60\00:09:06.61 As providence would have it, the printing press 00:09:06.64\00:09:09.44 had been invented just in time for the Reformation 00:09:09.48\00:09:12.48 to really kick off. 00:09:12.51\00:09:14.62 What began in Wittenberg, Germany, in 1517, 00:09:14.65\00:09:19.02 today a city of about 50,000 people, 00:09:19.05\00:09:21.36 50 miles or so from Berlin, quickly spread as others 00:09:21.39\00:09:26.16 took up the cause of sharing the Bible and teaching salvation 00:09:26.19\00:09:29.86 through faith in Jesus Christ. 00:09:29.90\00:09:32.17 The teachings of the reformers were radically different 00:09:32.20\00:09:35.87 to what the ruling Catholic Church had been teaching. 00:09:35.90\00:09:38.74 Understandably, the church was not favorably disposed 00:09:38.77\00:09:42.78 to what Luther and others were proclaiming. 00:09:42.81\00:09:45.78 So the church fought back, 00:09:45.81\00:09:48.95 and the Counter- Reformation was born. 00:09:48.98\00:09:52.15 >>Dr. Michael Hasel: Well, the Counter-Reformation 00:09:52.19\00:09:53.86 was the response by the church to Protestantism 00:09:53.89\00:09:56.96 and to the threat of splitting the church, uh, apart. 00:09:56.99\00:10:01.06 Um, they saw this as real, and they met in Italy 00:10:01.10\00:10:05.40 at the Council of Trent in Trento 00:10:05.43\00:10:07.60 for a series of many years, uh, from 1545 to 1563. 00:10:07.64\00:10:12.21 This was a multi-year event. 00:10:12.24\00:10:14.11 But there they really formulated their response. 00:10:14.14\00:10:16.64 And this was where the church had, uh, 00:10:16.68\00:10:18.21 a possibility actually to respond even positively 00:10:18.25\00:10:22.02 to the Reformation, to maybe, uh, reform themselves 00:10:22.05\00:10:25.45 from within, which really 00:10:25.49\00:10:26.65 originally was Luther's intent. >>John: Right. 00:10:26.69\00:10:28.82 >>Dr. Hasel: He wasn't intending to leave the church. 00:10:28.86\00:10:30.93 He was a, a very faithful Catholic who wanted to stay 00:10:30.96\00:10:34.46 within the church, but felt it needed to have some reformation 00:10:34.46\00:10:37.77 from within. But they, they didn't. 00:10:37.80\00:10:40.30 They took a very, very hard line on many of the things 00:10:40.34\00:10:43.81 that were criticized by Luther. 00:10:43.84\00:10:45.24 Here we have the canon, uh, of the Council of Trent. 00:10:45.27\00:10:48.61 This is the basic declarations that came out 00:10:48.64\00:10:52.08 after the council stopped meeting in 1563. 00:10:52.11\00:10:55.42 This is a first edition published in 1564. 00:10:55.45\00:10:59.25 And here we have a complete reaffirmation again 00:10:59.29\00:11:03.99 of many of the doctrines 00:11:04.03\00:11:05.39 that the Protestants had brought into question. 00:11:05.43\00:11:08.43 >>John: It would've been really difficult for the church of Rome 00:11:09.10\00:11:14.27 to have reformed, as Luther said, 00:11:14.30\00:11:17.21 because they would have had to have said, 00:11:17.24\00:11:19.91 "We were wrong about this. We were wrong about that. 00:11:19.94\00:11:23.58 We see new light here." 00:11:23.61\00:11:25.85 That would've been very difficult, wouldn't it? 00:11:25.88\00:11:28.45 >>Dr. Hasel: Yes, absolutely. 00:11:28.48\00:11:29.98 And so what happened as a result, really, 00:11:30.02\00:11:31.92 was that they just sunk their heels in even deeper. 00:11:31.95\00:11:35.36 And one of the things that came out of the Council of Trent 00:11:35.39\00:11:38.43 actually had to do with the Bible 00:11:38.46\00:11:40.46 and the authority of Scripture. What is Scripture? 00:11:40.50\00:11:44.47 You see, the Protestants had taken the position that, uh, 00:11:44.50\00:11:50.21 the Bible produces the church. 00:11:50.24\00:11:53.84 The Catholics had always taken the position that the church 00:11:53.88\00:11:56.68 produced the Bible. These are very different understandings. 00:11:56.71\00:12:00.48 >>John: Sure. 00:12:00.52\00:12:01.65 >>Dr. Hasel: And so one sees the Bible as the inspired 00:12:01.68\00:12:03.52 Word of God that then inspires Christians 00:12:03.55\00:12:06.02 to become Christian, to gather together, 00:12:06.05\00:12:09.62 to begin to fellowship together, to work together. 00:12:09.66\00:12:12.53 The other sees the authority primarily as the church. 00:12:12.56\00:12:15.70 And so that was reaffirmed here as well, 00:12:15.73\00:12:17.57 and so what they decided there, too, 00:12:17.60\00:12:19.37 was that the apocryphal books, 00:12:19.40\00:12:21.37 these books between the new and old, the Old and New Testament, 00:12:21.40\00:12:24.41 that had been in the Bibles all through the centuries 00:12:24.44\00:12:27.61 since Jerome had translated into the Latin The Vulgate, 00:12:27.64\00:12:31.88 that was always there, 00:12:31.91\00:12:33.05 but that was always given with a caveat ahead of time, 00:12:33.08\00:12:36.42 a kind of declaration that these books are not at the same level 00:12:36.45\00:12:39.85 doctrinally as the other books of the Bible. 00:12:39.89\00:12:42.96 >>John: And we're talking about books like Wisdom, Tobit, 00:12:42.99\00:12:45.46 Judith, First and Second Maccabees, 00:12:45.49\00:12:47.56 and so forth. Yep. >>Dr. Hasel: Exactly. Exactly. 00:12:47.60\00:12:49.83 They had been in those Protestant Bibles, 00:12:49.86\00:12:51.43 but they were always, you know, in between, 00:12:51.47\00:12:53.74 and they were not regarded the same. 00:12:53.77\00:12:55.60 The Council of Trent changed all that. 00:12:55.64\00:12:57.07 It put them at the same level canonically 00:12:57.11\00:12:59.31 as the rest of Scripture. 00:12:59.34\00:13:01.08 And in a sense they needed to do that 00:13:01.11\00:13:02.61 because it was some of those books that were fairly obscure 00:13:02.64\00:13:06.35 and were not necessarily originally part of canon 00:13:06.38\00:13:08.98 that helped support some of their traditions. 00:13:09.02\00:13:10.72 >>John: Such as purgatory. 00:13:10.75\00:13:11.89 >>Dr. Hasel: Correct. 00:13:11.92\00:13:13.05 >>John: So talk to me about this "Spiritual Exercises" 00:13:13.09\00:13:14.76 and the role of the Society of Jesus, the Jesuits, 00:13:14.79\00:13:18.29 and Ignatius Loyola. 00:13:18.33\00:13:19.53 >>Dr. Hasel: Well, "The Spiritual Exercises" 00:13:19.56\00:13:21.30 were probably his most important book. 00:13:21.33\00:13:23.03 It's a tiny, little book, but, uh, he believed 00:13:23.06\00:13:26.17 that through meditation, through these spiritual exercises 00:13:26.20\00:13:30.91 that really emptied oneself and focused on God, 00:13:30.94\00:13:34.28 one could come closer to God, and one could really develop 00:13:34.31\00:13:38.18 the kind of, uh, discipline to, to really go through 00:13:38.21\00:13:42.18 and become a, a very good Catholic 00:13:42.22\00:13:44.12 and a very good, uh, defender of the faith. 00:13:44.15\00:13:46.22 >>John: Well, where's the harm in spiritual disciplines 00:13:46.25\00:13:48.72 and spiritual exercises? 00:13:48.76\00:13:49.76 That--I think Protestants agree with that 00:13:49.79\00:13:51.49 sort of thing as well. 00:13:51.53\00:13:52.49 >>Dr. Hasel: We do, absolutely. >>John: Yeah. 00:13:52.53\00:13:53.56 >>Dr. Hasel: But we don't want to empty our mind; 00:13:53.60\00:13:54.73 we want to dwell on Scripture and allow Scripture to be 00:13:54.76\00:13:57.70 the impetus for, for those inspirational thoughts. 00:13:57.73\00:14:01.04 >>John: Very significant difference. 00:14:01.07\00:14:02.44 >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. >>John: Very significant. 00:14:02.47\00:14:04.31 So where did the Counter-Reformation go? 00:14:04.34\00:14:05.91 Did, did it, did it peter out? 00:14:05.94\00:14:08.08 Did it, did it triumph? Is it active today? 00:14:08.11\00:14:10.71 What, what does this indicate to us? 00:14:10.75\00:14:12.81 >>Dr. Hasel: Well, it, it was, 00:14:12.85\00:14:13.78 it continues to be a movement today. 00:14:13.82\00:14:15.68 It has shifted today in the sense that, uh, 00:14:15.72\00:14:19.09 with the Vatican II, another council 00:14:19.12\00:14:21.49 like that, in the 1960s-- >>John: Sure. 00:14:21.52\00:14:23.49 >>Dr. Hasel: ...the decision was made not to attack Protestantism 00:14:23.53\00:14:26.43 directly, not to attack Protestantism doctrinally, 00:14:26.46\00:14:30.30 but to engage in worship like the Protestants 00:14:30.33\00:14:34.67 and to kind of join in with that movement 00:14:34.70\00:14:37.84 in a more ecumenical way. 00:14:37.87\00:14:39.61 And so there's been a shift in that sense. 00:14:39.64\00:14:42.21 But I think the determination is still the same. 00:14:42.24\00:14:46.18 And the word "heresy" is still used in Catholic publications 00:14:46.21\00:14:49.22 today to, to describe anything outside of the Catholic faith. 00:14:49.25\00:14:53.62 So what we have here, the Douay-Rheims version 00:14:53.66\00:14:57.06 of the Bible, was a Catholic translation of The Vulgate 00:14:57.09\00:15:01.46 into English to counteract the Protestant Bibles of that time-- 00:15:01.50\00:15:06.23 before the King James Bible, of course, but--the Great Bible, 00:15:06.27\00:15:09.24 the Bishops' Bible, the Coverdale Bible, 00:15:09.27\00:15:11.11 those Bibles that we've already talked about before. 00:15:11.14\00:15:13.58 And this was a counteraction on their part to influence 00:15:13.61\00:15:18.91 and to change, uh, that. 00:15:18.95\00:15:20.38 This was, uh, printed in 1582, so it came sometime later, 00:15:20.42\00:15:25.35 but it was very important, and it was published and translated 00:15:25.39\00:15:29.06 just across from the English Channel in France. 00:15:29.09\00:15:32.06 >>John: Christianity was presented 00:15:32.09\00:15:33.36 with a golden opportunity. 00:15:33.40\00:15:35.30 Here were scholars, teachers, theologians rising up to say, 00:15:35.33\00:15:40.74 "We can do this better." But human nature being what it is, 00:15:40.77\00:15:45.41 it was determined that such an approach would not be adopted. 00:15:45.44\00:15:49.04 But as Paul wrote to the church in Corinth, 00:15:49.08\00:15:51.75 "We can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth." 00:15:51.78\00:15:55.52 The Bible would be translated into English 00:15:55.55\00:15:57.72 and go to the world. 00:15:57.75\00:15:59.22 And because it did, we hold the Bible in our hands today. 00:15:59.25\00:16:03.99 We'll look at that in just a moment. 00:16:04.03\00:16:06.80 ¤[music swells and ends]¤¤ 00:16:06.83\00:16:13.80 >>Announcer: Call now for today's free offer, 00:16:16.07\00:16:18.04 "From Script to Scripture." 00:16:18.07\00:16:19.71 Enjoy the rest of the conversation 00:16:19.74\00:16:21.48 between John Bradshaw and Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:16:21.51\00:16:24.28 including faith-building stories we couldn't fit 00:16:24.31\00:16:26.48 into today's program. 00:16:26.51\00:16:27.98 A rare opportunity to turn the pages of history, 00:16:28.02\00:16:31.02 see books that changed the world 00:16:31.05\00:16:32.89 and learn insights that will grow your faith in God. 00:16:32.92\00:16:36.02 Call 800-253-3000 00:16:36.06\00:16:38.43 for the free DVD, 00:16:38.46\00:16:40.00 800-253-3000 00:16:40.03\00:16:42.43 or visit iiwoffer.com. 00:16:42.46\00:16:45.30 >>John Bradshaw: He had it all: extravagant wealth, 00:16:47.14\00:16:50.51 immense power, and wisdom far greater than any person 00:16:50.54\00:16:54.34 before him. He'd seen the glory of God, 00:16:54.38\00:16:57.41 had spoken personally with God, 00:16:57.45\00:16:59.45 and was told by God he could have anything he wanted. 00:16:59.48\00:17:02.85 But as his focus shifted over time, his life collapsed. 00:17:02.88\00:17:07.59 As he contemplated his existence, 00:17:07.62\00:17:09.32 he concluded that all was vanity. 00:17:09.36\00:17:12.93 Don't miss "Great Characters of the Bible: Solomon," 00:17:12.96\00:17:16.80 as we look at the story of the wisest man who ever lived, 00:17:16.83\00:17:20.30 a man who wrote three books of the Bible, 00:17:20.34\00:17:22.50 a man who was revered by monarchs 00:17:22.54\00:17:24.34 and feared by his enemies, 00:17:24.37\00:17:26.31 the man who constructed what may have been 00:17:26.34\00:17:28.14 the most beautiful temple ever built, 00:17:28.18\00:17:30.35 and yet turned away from faithfulness to God. 00:17:30.38\00:17:33.55 But God didn't turn from him. 00:17:33.58\00:17:35.62 The story of Solomon is a tragedy and a victory. 00:17:35.65\00:17:39.09 Don't miss "Great Characters of the Bible: Solomon," 00:17:39.12\00:17:42.82 brought to you by It Is Written TV. 00:17:42.86\00:17:45.36 >>John Bradshaw: I met recently with Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:17:47.76\00:17:50.07 the director of the Lynn H. Wood Archaeological Museum 00:17:50.10\00:17:53.60 in Collegedale, Tennessee. 00:17:53.64\00:17:56.10 We looked together at a collection of rare books 00:17:56.14\00:17:58.61 from the time of the Reformation, 00:17:58.64\00:18:01.14 among them a very early copy of the Bible that guided 00:18:01.18\00:18:05.88 Protestant Christianity for hundreds of years. 00:18:05.91\00:18:09.85 >>Dr. Michael Hasel: So here we're coming 00:18:11.35\00:18:12.49 to the largest object that we have on display, 00:18:12.52\00:18:15.26 the largest Bible and perhaps the most important Bible, 00:18:15.29\00:18:18.73 at least as far as the English language 00:18:18.76\00:18:20.96 and history of Scripture is concerned. 00:18:21.00\00:18:22.70 >>John: The King James Version of the Bible from 1611, 00:18:22.73\00:18:26.13 and so what edition is this? 00:18:26.17\00:18:28.20 How close to original is this particular book itself? 00:18:28.24\00:18:30.67 >>Dr. Hasel: This is a first edition. 00:18:30.71\00:18:33.01 Up to this point in time we had the Coverdale Bible, 00:18:33.04\00:18:35.61 which was Tyndale and Coverdale working together. 00:18:35.64\00:18:38.51 It was an inferior version of the Bible 00:18:38.55\00:18:40.68 in terms of the English language. 00:18:40.72\00:18:42.52 It wasn't really worked out that well. 00:18:42.55\00:18:44.05 Then we have the Great Bible, the Bishops' Bible, 00:18:44.09\00:18:46.82 other Bibles, but finally at the time of King James, 00:18:46.86\00:18:49.89 it was decided that we really needed to have, 00:18:49.92\00:18:52.73 the English-, uh, speaking people needed to have 00:18:52.76\00:18:55.66 a very, very fine translation. 00:18:55.70\00:18:58.27 So they brought, uh, 47 different scholars together-- 00:18:58.30\00:19:01.20 >>John: Mm-hmm. >>Dr. Hasel: ...split them up 00:19:01.24\00:19:02.54 in six different groups 00:19:02.57\00:19:03.64 so that they could work independently of each other, 00:19:03.67\00:19:06.14 so that they wouldn't bias one another, and they worked 00:19:06.17\00:19:09.24 for, uh, quite some time to produce this translation. 00:19:09.28\00:19:12.91 >>John: What is it about the King James that made it 00:19:12.95\00:19:14.58 the standard and makes it really a reliable 00:19:14.62\00:19:17.09 and solid translation? 00:19:17.12\00:19:18.62 >>Dr. Hasel: Well, it had the most support, I think, 00:19:18.65\00:19:21.09 at the time in the English, um, realm of any Bible 00:19:21.12\00:19:25.33 that had come before it. 00:19:25.36\00:19:26.26 The king put his full support behind it. 00:19:26.29\00:19:29.20 It, uh, it, it had the financial backing of the kingdom as well. 00:19:29.23\00:19:34.10 And the product is just absolutely stunning 00:19:34.14\00:19:36.77 and, and beautiful. 00:19:36.81\00:19:38.24 Uh, what we have here is really a Bible that, 00:19:38.27\00:19:42.91 like Luther and like the French Bible of Olivétan before, 00:19:42.94\00:19:48.02 really galvanizes and brings together the English language. 00:19:48.05\00:19:50.85 There's three writings that do that for English: 00:19:50.89\00:19:54.29 the King James Version Bible, the Common Book of Prayer, 00:19:54.32\00:19:58.23 and the writings of Shakespeare. 00:19:58.26\00:20:00.20 So, that cannot be overestimated. 00:20:00.23\00:20:02.36 This, this is really an amazing work. 00:20:02.40\00:20:04.00 Now, this was done on a moveable type printing press, 00:20:04.03\00:20:07.64 as we've already discussed with Gutenberg's press in 1455, 00:20:07.67\00:20:12.07 and even though this is almost 200 years later, 00:20:12.11\00:20:13.94 the same process is involved, 00:20:13.98\00:20:15.94 which means that every single letter needs to be placed 00:20:15.98\00:20:20.15 into the, uh, flat part of the press individually 00:20:20.18\00:20:24.72 to make each page, or two pages, whatever the case may be. 00:20:24.75\00:20:28.79 This is a very, very rare Bible, but there's 160, about 160 00:20:28.82\00:20:33.46 of these left in the world in complete condition like this. 00:20:33.50\00:20:37.10 Um, but let me show you something that is even 00:20:37.13\00:20:39.60 much older than 1611 and that really goes back 00:20:39.63\00:20:43.34 to the very beginning of this moveable type technology. 00:20:43.37\00:20:46.98 >>John: Yeah, so important because without it, 00:20:47.01\00:20:48.81 the Bible wouldn't have been distributed as widely as it was. 00:20:48.84\00:20:51.51 >>Dr. Hasel: Exactly. 00:20:51.55\00:20:53.15 So here we come to the father, if you will, 00:20:53.18\00:20:56.38 of all printed Bibles, or the mother of all printed Bibles: 00:20:56.42\00:21:00.16 This is the famous Gutenberg Bible, 00:21:00.19\00:21:02.59 printed in Mainz, Germany, in 1455. 00:21:02.62\00:21:06.76 We only have one leaf, front and back, of this Bible, 00:21:06.80\00:21:09.76 but this is an original leaf. 00:21:09.80\00:21:11.70 This is, of course, The Vulgate, 00:21:11.73\00:21:13.23 the Latin translation of the Bible. 00:21:13.27\00:21:16.07 And of the original 160 to 200 Bibles that were published 00:21:16.10\00:21:22.31 by Gutenberg, of those, 00:21:22.34\00:21:24.85 only 21 complete Gutenberg Bibles still survive today. 00:21:24.88\00:21:29.58 >>John: That's not many. And where are they? 00:21:29.62\00:21:31.65 >>Dr. Hasel: They're all in institutions. 00:21:31.69\00:21:33.25 Nobody privately owns one. They're very expensive. 00:21:33.29\00:21:36.52 They're at the Library of Congress; 00:21:36.56\00:21:38.29 they're at the J. P. Morgan Library in New York, 00:21:38.33\00:21:41.03 uh, various libraries around Europe. 00:21:41.06\00:21:43.63 This is just a breakthrough in technology 00:21:43.67\00:21:47.24 because for the first time, 00:21:47.27\00:21:48.30 rather than handwriting out Bibles, 00:21:48.34\00:21:51.87 which would take a year to a year and a half, 00:21:51.91\00:21:54.14 suddenly you could print one on a moveable type printing press, 00:21:54.18\00:21:56.81 like this one. 00:21:56.85\00:21:58.31 >>John: You know, it's so interesting that this came 00:21:58.35\00:22:00.75 on the scene, you know, just at about the same time as Luther-- 00:22:00.78\00:22:03.89 I mean, a little before--but in preparation for Luther 00:22:03.92\00:22:06.76 to come on and really use this to, to spread the Word of God. 00:22:06.79\00:22:10.33 >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. >>John: Amazing timing. 00:22:10.36\00:22:11.79 >>Dr. Hasel: It's amazing timing. 00:22:11.83\00:22:13.03 And these Bibles, by the way, even when they were printed 00:22:13.06\00:22:15.80 en masse like that at 200 of them, they still cost-- 00:22:15.83\00:22:20.07 in today's dollars, each Bible would have cost $93,000 00:22:20.10\00:22:23.84 in today's currency. So, think about that. 00:22:23.87\00:22:27.78 Who could afford a Bible like that? 00:22:27.81\00:22:29.11 >>John: Right. Very few. >>Dr. Hasel: Very few-- 00:22:29.14\00:22:30.78 institutions again, universities, monasteries, 00:22:30.81\00:22:34.02 churches. And so, just amazing to see something like this here. 00:22:34.05\00:22:39.52 Gutenberg was called, of course-- 00:22:39.55\00:22:41.66 Time magazine called him "the Man of the Millennium." 00:22:41.69\00:22:44.83 We have "the Man of the Century," 00:22:44.86\00:22:46.19 we have "the Man of the Year," 00:22:46.23\00:22:47.50 or "the Person of the Year" today, 00:22:47.56\00:22:49.43 but Gutenberg was called "the Man of the Millennium" 00:22:49.46\00:22:51.67 because this was such a groundbreaking, uh, event 00:22:51.70\00:22:54.74 in history, in the history of communication. 00:22:54.77\00:22:56.81 >>John: Mmm. Yeah, amazing. Changed the world. 00:22:56.84\00:22:59.24 >>Dr. Hasel: Changed the world. 00:22:59.27\00:23:00.64 >>John: It changed the world. 00:23:00.68\00:23:03.31 But the question for us today is, will it change your world? 00:23:03.35\00:23:08.92 In a time of great spiritual darkness 00:23:08.95\00:23:10.89 when the governing church dictated to kings and kingdoms, 00:23:10.92\00:23:14.82 a truly biblical faith simply wasn't known. 00:23:14.86\00:23:17.93 People were taught that they were saved through the church. 00:23:17.96\00:23:21.13 Luther's teaching of salvation by grace alone, 00:23:21.16\00:23:24.73 through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone was revolutionary. 00:23:24.77\00:23:30.71 Luther survived the attempts made on his life, 00:23:30.74\00:23:33.84 but many others were not able to escape 00:23:33.88\00:23:35.64 the wrath of the church. 00:23:35.68\00:23:37.55 Tyndale, the English Bible translator, 00:23:37.58\00:23:39.61 was burnt at the stake. 00:23:39.65\00:23:41.45 John Hus and his ministry partner Jerome 00:23:41.48\00:23:43.89 met the same fate a century earlier. 00:23:43.92\00:23:46.89 Wishart, Latimer, Ridley, Cranmer, considered heretics 00:23:46.92\00:23:51.53 for their stand on the teachings of the Bible, 00:23:51.56\00:23:54.03 lost their lives, as did countless others. 00:23:54.10\00:23:57.30 But nothing could stop the advance of the Bible. 00:23:57.33\00:23:59.83 Millions of copies are now printed every single year. 00:23:59.87\00:24:03.30 So let me ask you: What are you doing about the Bible? 00:24:04.31\00:24:10.08 This great book, this remarkable document, 00:24:10.11\00:24:13.35 which details the love of God, 00:24:13.38\00:24:15.42 it, it tells the plan of salvation. 00:24:15.45\00:24:18.02 It recites the great histories of the people of God 00:24:18.05\00:24:20.62 in antiquity and the early church. 00:24:20.66\00:24:23.36 It's not just ancient wisdom; it's present power. 00:24:23.39\00:24:27.86 David was able to write that it was 00:24:27.86\00:24:29.30 "a lamp to [his] feet and a light to [his] path." 00:24:29.33\00:24:31.47 Paul wrote that the "Scriptures...are able 00:24:31.50\00:24:32.93 to make you wise for salvation." 00:24:32.97\00:24:35.37 Peter wrote of the "exceedingly great and precious promises," 00:24:35.40\00:24:39.11 through which "you may be partakers of the divine nature." 00:24:39.14\00:24:43.85 I want to encourage you to read the Bible. Listen to the Bible. 00:24:44.85\00:24:48.42 Let God's Word get off the pages and into your heart, 00:24:48.45\00:24:52.75 into your mind, molding you and forming you for eternity. 00:24:52.79\00:24:57.69 This is a book that will change your life. 00:24:57.73\00:25:02.50 If you've not been a Bible reader, let's change that today. 00:25:02.53\00:25:06.47 Pick it up and start reading-- 00:25:06.50\00:25:08.80 a few verses a day, a chapter a day, several chapters a day-- 00:25:08.84\00:25:12.81 ¤[soft music]¤ 00:25:12.84\00:25:14.01 and then pause to consider what it is you've been reading. 00:25:14.04\00:25:16.44 Listen for the voice of God. 00:25:16.48\00:25:18.48 Ask God to help you to hear from Him 00:25:18.51\00:25:20.25 as you read what He inspired. 00:25:20.28\00:25:22.65 Now, if your reading has been shallow, 00:25:22.68\00:25:25.12 if you've been a surface reader, 00:25:25.15\00:25:27.42 let's decide right now that through God's help 00:25:27.46\00:25:30.76 you're going to go deeper. 00:25:30.79\00:25:32.83 It might be time to begin memorizing verses 00:25:32.86\00:25:35.13 or passages of the Bible, 00:25:35.16\00:25:37.17 and to start not only reading or hearing the Bible, 00:25:37.20\00:25:40.87 but to start trusting it, 00:25:40.90\00:25:42.74 believing that God can do what He says He can do, 00:25:42.77\00:25:46.61 and believing that God will work with power in your life. 00:25:46.64\00:25:51.41 There is no other book like it. It's the Word of God. 00:25:51.45\00:25:55.98 Allow God's Word into your life, 00:25:56.02\00:25:58.72 and you'll never be the same again. 00:25:58.75\00:26:01.32 ¤[music ends]¤¤ 00:26:01.36\00:26:02.36 >>John: Thank you for remembering that It Is Written 00:26:02.86\00:26:04.83 exists because of the kindness of people just like you. 00:26:04.86\00:26:08.20 To support this international life-changing ministry, 00:26:08.23\00:26:11.43 please call us now at 800-253-3000. 00:26:11.47\00:26:15.70 You can send your tax-deductible gift 00:26:15.74\00:26:17.17 to the address on your screen, 00:26:17.21\00:26:18.64 or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 00:26:18.67\00:26:22.51 Thank you for your prayers and for your financial support. 00:26:22.54\00:26:25.31 Our number again is 800-253-3000, 00:26:25.35\00:26:29.48 or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 00:26:29.52\00:26:32.52 >>John: Let's pray together now. 00:26:33.46\00:26:35.42 Our Father in heaven, we thank You for the Bible, 00:26:35.46\00:26:37.29 and I'm praying right now 00:26:37.33\00:26:39.33 that You will unleash Your Word in our lives. 00:26:39.36\00:26:41.50 There is somebody right at this moment who is saying, 00:26:41.53\00:26:43.73 "I'm going to pick up that Bible and read it." 00:26:43.77\00:26:45.67 Help her, help him to develop a habit of reading the Bible 00:26:45.70\00:26:49.10 that would never die. 00:26:49.14\00:26:50.87 Somebody right now is experiencing weakness 00:26:50.91\00:26:53.88 and not strength in his experience. 00:26:53.91\00:26:56.21 There's somebody looking for a miracle, 00:26:56.24\00:26:57.85 somebody needing a breakthrough, 00:26:57.88\00:26:59.21 somebody desperately desiring victory, 00:26:59.25\00:27:02.32 and, Lord, it is there in the pages of Scripture. 00:27:02.35\00:27:05.29 Lord, let this not only be ancient wisdom, 00:27:05.32\00:27:07.86 but present power in lives 00:27:07.89\00:27:10.59 across the fruited plain and around the world. 00:27:10.63\00:27:13.53 May we experience the power of Scripture. 00:27:13.56\00:27:16.73 Might we be born again through Your Word, as the Bible says. 00:27:16.77\00:27:20.64 Heavenly Father, through Your Word, 00:27:20.67\00:27:21.97 have Your way in our lives. 00:27:22.00\00:27:24.07 Let it be the bedrock, the foundation of our lives, 00:27:24.11\00:27:26.57 we pray. And we thank You in Jesus' name. 00:27:26.61\00:27:30.21 Say with me now: amen and amen. 00:27:30.25\00:27:33.98 Thank you so much for joining me. 00:27:34.02\00:27:36.12 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time. 00:27:36.15\00:27:38.25 Until then, remember: 00:27:38.29\00:27:40.39 "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, 00:27:40.42\00:27:44.33 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" 00:27:44.36\00:27:49.53 ¤[dramatic theme music]¤ 00:27:49.56\00:27:54.57 ¤[music ends]¤¤ 00:28:25.83\00:28:27.84