¤[music ends]¤¤ 00:00:15.84\00:00:17.85 >>John Bradshaw: This is It Is Written. 00:00:19.58\00:00:21.22 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me. 00:00:21.25\00:00:23.35 The Bible, the Word of God, the Good Book, Scripture, 00:00:24.15\00:00:28.62 Holy Writ, it's the bestselling book of all time. 00:00:28.66\00:00:32.29 It's said that about 100 million Bibles are sold 00:00:32.33\00:00:35.33 or given away every year. 00:00:35.36\00:00:37.77 It would be easy to take the Bible for granted. 00:00:37.80\00:00:40.47 You can buy one for next to nothing. 00:00:40.50\00:00:42.24 You can download it to your device. 00:00:42.27\00:00:44.24 You can listen to the Bible. 00:00:44.27\00:00:45.47 In most countries the Bible is ubiquitous; it's everywhere. 00:00:45.51\00:00:50.41 But not very long ago, really, the Bible wasn't accessible. 00:00:50.45\00:00:54.92 In fact, you could be, maybe would be, 00:00:54.95\00:00:57.99 put to death for possessing even a fragment of Scripture. 00:00:58.02\00:01:02.59 So how did we get from there to here? 00:01:02.62\00:01:06.70 We go back about half a millennium to the year 1517, 00:01:06.73\00:01:10.73 a time when a young priest, approaching his mid-30s, 00:01:10.77\00:01:13.13 felt that he had to do something to moderate 00:01:13.17\00:01:16.34 the teachings of the established church. 00:01:16.37\00:01:19.51 The issue Martin Luther found especially galling 00:01:19.54\00:01:21.91 was indulgences, where the church claimed that 00:01:21.94\00:01:25.01 for a sum of money or by doing some noteworthy act, 00:01:25.05\00:01:28.92 a person could obtain forgiveness of sin. 00:01:28.95\00:01:32.55 Of course, there's nothing correct about that, 00:01:32.59\00:01:35.06 and Luther was witnessing the great amount of damage that 00:01:35.09\00:01:37.99 this false teaching and others connected to it were doing. 00:01:38.03\00:01:42.13 I met recently with Dr. Michael Hasel. 00:01:43.13\00:01:45.80 He's an archaeologist, a university professor, 00:01:45.83\00:01:48.54 a Bible historian, and the curator of the Lynn H. Wood 00:01:48.57\00:01:51.94 Archaeological Museum just outside Chattanooga, Tennessee. 00:01:51.97\00:01:56.28 Together we looked at a collection of rare Bibles 00:01:56.31\00:01:58.75 and other Christian books, which combine to tell the story 00:01:58.78\00:02:03.08 of the Reformation and help us understand how the Bible 00:02:03.12\00:02:06.72 came to be widely available today. 00:02:06.76\00:02:09.82 >>Dr. Michael Hasel: In October 31, 1517, Martin Luther 00:02:09.86\00:02:13.93 walked up to the doors of the Wittenberg Castle Church 00:02:13.96\00:02:17.30 and nailed the 95 Theses on the doors of that church. 00:02:17.33\00:02:21.77 The 95 Theses were 95 statements that Luther made, 00:02:21.80\00:02:25.41 arguments that he made concerning purgatory, 00:02:25.44\00:02:28.81 the sale of indulgences, 00:02:28.84\00:02:30.51 something that the Catholic Church was promoting 00:02:30.55\00:02:32.91 at that time in their history, particularly for the building 00:02:32.95\00:02:36.55 of St. Peter's Cathedral in Rome 00:02:36.58\00:02:38.32 and for the advancement, eventually, also of the Crusades 00:02:38.35\00:02:41.66 and the financing of the Crusades. 00:02:41.69\00:02:43.29 >>John: Now, this one act of Martin Luther is widely credited 00:02:43.32\00:02:46.29 with starting, initiating the Protestant Reformation. 00:02:46.33\00:02:49.43 What was it about those two subjects in particular 00:02:49.46\00:02:52.73 you mention that generated so much heat, ultimately light? 00:02:52.77\00:02:57.61 >>Dr. Hasel: Well, I think, first of all, maybe Luther 00:02:57.64\00:02:59.77 wasn't intending to start something that big. 00:02:59.81\00:03:02.28 He placed these on the doors because this was the place 00:03:02.31\00:03:05.58 where discussions got started on university campuses. 00:03:05.61\00:03:08.22 But we also know that that same day he sent a copy of that 00:03:08.25\00:03:12.39 to the archbishop of Mainz in Germany, 00:03:12.42\00:03:14.79 who had sponsored a gentleman by the name of Johann Tetzel, 00:03:14.82\00:03:17.53 sending him out to all the various, uh, 00:03:17.56\00:03:19.93 countryside villages selling these indulgences. 00:03:19.96\00:03:22.50 >>John: So Tetzel was commissioned by the archbishop 00:03:22.53\00:03:25.20 of Mainz, who was raising money for the building 00:03:25.23\00:03:28.37 of what's now St. Peter's. 00:03:28.40\00:03:30.47 Tetzel came to town and was capitalizing on the naivety 00:03:30.51\00:03:34.44 and the ignorance of the poor people, who would give money, 00:03:34.48\00:03:37.91 receive a piece of paper saying that they had absolution 00:03:37.95\00:03:41.05 or something very similar to that. 00:03:41.08\00:03:43.22 They'd go home with their piece of paper thinking, 00:03:43.25\00:03:44.99 "We're good to go." They weren't. 00:03:45.02\00:03:47.19 >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. Tetzel had a very famous saying. 00:03:47.22\00:03:49.69 It says, "When the coin in the coffer rings, 00:03:49.72\00:03:52.03 the soul from purgatory springs." 00:03:52.06\00:03:54.20 It's a great translation of the German. 00:03:54.23\00:03:56.10 He talked about the fires of hell and the burning of hell, 00:03:56.13\00:03:59.30 and he used that kind of intimidation to really get 00:03:59.33\00:04:01.80 people to think about buying an indulgence. 00:04:01.84\00:04:04.57 And Luther was incensed that the church was teaching that 00:04:04.61\00:04:08.48 by the sale of an indulgence you could buy your way 00:04:08.51\00:04:12.01 into heaven somehow. 00:04:12.05\00:04:13.48 >>John: The church really pushed back. 00:04:13.52\00:04:15.25 How'd they push back and, and why? 00:04:15.28\00:04:17.49 >>Dr. Hasel: One of the reasons they had to push back 00:04:17.52\00:04:19.29 was the 95 Theses that were nailed here were taken down 00:04:19.32\00:04:22.49 by some of the students, 00:04:22.52\00:04:24.03 and they were taken to a printing press, 00:04:24.06\00:04:25.46 and they were printed. 00:04:25.49\00:04:26.59 What you see here is the first edition of that printing 00:04:26.63\00:04:31.07 in Latin in 1517. 00:04:31.10\00:04:33.60 So this was sent like a pamphlet, it's a small, 00:04:33.64\00:04:36.07 little booklet, and they were sent all over Germany. 00:04:36.10\00:04:38.47 And this began the wave, if you will, of concern 00:04:38.51\00:04:43.78 over the sale of indulgences that caused that response 00:04:43.81\00:04:46.35 by the Catholic Church. 00:04:46.38\00:04:47.32 >>John: What were some of these statements? 00:04:47.35\00:04:49.22 And I don't mean verbatim necessarily, but what were 00:04:49.25\00:04:51.15 some of the types of things Luther was saying in here? 00:04:51.19\00:04:54.32 >>Dr. Hasel: One of the things he was, uh, criticizing, 00:04:54.36\00:04:57.49 I think, somewhat carefully but also very straightforward, 00:04:57.53\00:05:01.16 was that the pope's own reputation would be 00:05:01.20\00:05:03.26 at stake here, that the pope needed to take 00:05:03.30\00:05:06.17 maybe a different position than selling indulgences 00:05:06.20\00:05:09.57 and taking advantage of the poor, who were giving money 00:05:09.60\00:05:12.44 for something that biblically wasn't, uh, really feasible, 00:05:12.47\00:05:16.58 and that he could, out of his own coffers, 00:05:16.61\00:05:19.51 pay for a big church himself rather than on the backs 00:05:19.55\00:05:22.75 of the poor peasants that Luther was ministering to 00:05:22.78\00:05:25.12 on a daily basis. 00:05:25.15\00:05:26.05 So that was one of the issues there were. 00:05:26.09\00:05:28.06 But at the core of this was also the issue of salvation. 00:05:28.09\00:05:31.99 How does one go about getting salvation? 00:05:32.03\00:05:34.13 Is it through a piece of paper that you buy? 00:05:34.20\00:05:36.56 Or is it through faith? 00:05:36.60\00:05:38.37 And he spoke on going through tribulation 00:05:38.40\00:05:41.47 and that tribulation actually was a better way to get, 00:05:41.50\00:05:46.61 through grace, to heaven than buying a piece of paper 00:05:46.64\00:05:50.21 from the pope. 00:05:50.25\00:05:51.28 >>John: Okay. In response, let's take a look here, 00:05:51.31\00:05:53.72 because the church was livid. 00:05:53.75\00:05:56.35 >>Dr. Hasel: They were livid. 00:05:56.38\00:05:57.35 Eventually what happened was that Luther received 00:05:57.39\00:06:00.06 a document, probably a scroll, with a huge stamp impressed 00:06:00.09\00:06:04.93 in red, uh, wax, and this was in Latin, called a bulla, 00:06:04.96\00:06:10.60 and here you can see bulla Leonis. 00:06:10.63\00:06:13.37 Leo X was the reigning pope at that time, 00:06:13.40\00:06:16.84 and he issued this in Rome, 00:06:16.87\00:06:18.91 excommunicating Luther from the church. 00:06:18.94\00:06:21.31 >>John: Okay. He criticized the church. 00:06:21.34\00:06:22.78 He took a position against some of the teachings and practices 00:06:22.81\00:06:24.88 of the church. He got the boot. 00:06:24.91\00:06:27.12 This is obviously not the original thing, 00:06:27.15\00:06:28.72 but this is a, a, a printed copy of what Leo wrote 00:06:28.75\00:06:31.99 telling Luther he was gone. 00:06:32.02\00:06:33.82 >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. We're told--at least, Luther's account 00:06:33.86\00:06:36.69 is that he threw that manuscript in the fire. 00:06:36.73\00:06:39.73 That's what he thought of it. 00:06:39.76\00:06:40.86 But the pope then printed these, 00:06:40.90\00:06:43.13 just as Luther's friends had printed the 95 Theses, 00:06:43.16\00:06:46.87 and a war started going back and forth in the printed press, 00:06:46.90\00:06:50.47 in the printed documents and in the artwork as well. 00:06:50.51\00:06:53.98 >>John: Today, Luther might have tweeted and some-- 00:06:54.01\00:06:57.71 or posted something on Instagram, 00:06:57.75\00:06:59.18 and then this back-and-forth war would have begun. 00:06:59.21\00:07:01.58 >>Dr. Hasel: Mm-hmm. 00:07:01.62\00:07:02.38 >>John: Speaking of back and forth, 00:07:02.42\00:07:03.28 this is a fascinating document to me-- 00:07:03.32\00:07:05.09 written by Johann von Eck. 00:07:05.12\00:07:07.36 Von Eck was a very learned church man who-- 00:07:07.39\00:07:10.86 I don't want to call him an attack dog for the church, 00:07:10.89\00:07:13.40 but he kind of was. 00:07:13.43\00:07:14.73 It indicates this wasn't small; it was really big. 00:07:14.76\00:07:16.80 People on both sides were printing, publishing books 00:07:16.83\00:07:19.00 and getting them out there. 00:07:19.03\00:07:20.20 Speak about what Eck was all about. 00:07:20.24\00:07:22.00 >>Dr. Hasel: Eck was one of the main antagonists and one 00:07:22.04\00:07:24.24 of the major, uh, scholars that the Catholic Church 00:07:24.27\00:07:27.91 used to debate with Luther. 00:07:27.94\00:07:30.81 And he was sent in 1519; there was a famous debate 00:07:30.85\00:07:34.48 that took place between Eck and Luther at Leipzig, 00:07:34.52\00:07:38.09 where they, uh, hashed out some of these issues. 00:07:38.12\00:07:41.32 And subsequently Eck published this book, the "Enchiridion." 00:07:41.36\00:07:45.73 And this went through 91 printings. 00:07:45.76\00:07:48.80 It was probably the most widely printed book 00:07:48.83\00:07:50.80 in the 16th century during the time of Luther, 00:07:50.83\00:07:54.00 attacking his positions on the Protestant Reformation 00:07:54.04\00:07:57.67 and his hopeful reforms that the church would take. 00:07:57.71\00:08:00.98 >>John: We're not at the printing of the Bible yet. 00:08:01.01\00:08:03.35 The Bible as a book, as a document, 00:08:03.38\00:08:05.35 hasn't stepped onto center stage, 00:08:05.38\00:08:07.45 but we're getting close, aren't we? 00:08:07.48\00:08:08.78 >>Dr. Hasel: We're getting close. 00:08:08.82\00:08:09.72 And this would lead towards that event. 00:08:09.75\00:08:12.55 >>John: Soon, the Bible would take center stage. 00:08:12.59\00:08:16.39 People would be able to access Scripture for the first time 00:08:16.42\00:08:19.79 in hundreds of years. 00:08:19.83\00:08:21.66 And the world would never be the same. 00:08:21.70\00:08:24.83 Back in a moment. 00:08:24.87\00:08:25.83 ¤[music swells and ends]¤¤ 00:08:25.87\00:08:32.87 >>Announcer: Call now for today's free offer, 00:08:35.01\00:08:36.91 "From Script to Scripture." 00:08:36.95\00:08:38.78 Enjoy the rest of the conversation 00:08:38.81\00:08:40.35 between John Bradshaw and Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:08:40.38\00:08:43.18 including faith-building stories we couldn't fit 00:08:43.22\00:08:45.35 into today's program. 00:08:45.39\00:08:47.06 A rare opportunity to turn the pages of history, 00:08:47.09\00:08:50.03 see books that changed the world, 00:08:50.06\00:08:51.99 and learn insights that will grow your faith in God. 00:08:52.03\00:08:54.93 Call 800-253-3000 for the free DVD, 00:08:54.96\00:08:59.07 800-253-3000 00:08:59.10\00:09:01.64 or visit iiwoffer.com. 00:09:01.67\00:09:04.17 >>John Bradshaw: Thanks for joining me on It Is Written. 00:09:05.94\00:09:08.54 At a time when the Bible wasn't available 00:09:08.58\00:09:11.21 in any meaningful way, when people couldn't read John 3:16, 00:09:11.25\00:09:16.58 when the stories of David and Goliath, 00:09:16.62\00:09:18.62 and Daniel in the lions' den, and the feeding of the 5,000 00:09:18.65\00:09:21.89 simply couldn't be known and read, 00:09:21.92\00:09:25.13 a German priest named Martin Luther, 00:09:25.16\00:09:27.56 frustrated by the inaccurate teachings of the church 00:09:27.60\00:09:30.40 of which he was a part, wrote out 95 points expressing 00:09:30.43\00:09:34.70 where he felt the established church was wrong. 00:09:34.74\00:09:38.21 They became known as Luther's 95 Theses. 00:09:38.24\00:09:41.88 The writing of these statements sparked 00:09:41.91\00:09:43.91 the Protestant Reformation and led directly to the printing 00:09:43.95\00:09:47.42 and the wide distribution of the Bible. 00:09:47.45\00:09:51.02 Dr. Michael Hasel and I looked together at a collection 00:09:51.05\00:09:53.56 of rare books that tell the story of the genesis 00:09:53.59\00:09:57.39 of the distribution of the Bible. 00:09:57.43\00:10:00.50 So just a few years after Luther nails the 95 Theses 00:10:00.53\00:10:04.30 to the door of the Castle Church, he's standing in front 00:10:04.33\00:10:07.70 of an, an august body, maybe the most august body of people 00:10:07.74\00:10:11.74 ever assembled, and he's defending his faith, 00:10:11.77\00:10:14.48 and this document tells us about this, so explain this one. 00:10:14.51\00:10:18.48 >>Dr. Hasel: Well, this is his account of what happened 00:10:18.51\00:10:20.42 at the Diet of Worms. Worms is a city in southern Germany. 00:10:20.45\00:10:23.32 Luther was summoned there by the emperor, Charles V, 00:10:23.35\00:10:26.99 and by the Roman prelates that were there, and, uh, 00:10:27.02\00:10:31.06 he basically was called to give account of his writings 00:10:31.09\00:10:36.60 and to denounce them, to recant from what he had written. 00:10:36.63\00:10:41.17 And so all of Europe was focused on this event. 00:10:41.20\00:10:44.71 People came from the surrounding villages 00:10:44.74\00:10:46.84 as Luther was making his way from Wittenberg 00:10:46.88\00:10:49.08 down to southern Germany. 00:10:49.11\00:10:50.15 They were greeting him along the way. 00:10:50.18\00:10:52.11 He had become a sensation already by that point in time. 00:10:52.15\00:10:54.48 This was four years later. 00:10:54.52\00:10:56.08 And he has been offered free passage by the emperor. 00:10:56.12\00:11:00.82 In other words, no one was going to try any foul play. 00:11:00.86\00:11:03.89 At least, that was the emperor's promise. 00:11:03.93\00:11:06.56 And Luther arrives there, and on the first day he stands 00:11:06.59\00:11:10.60 in front of this august assembly, 00:11:10.63\00:11:13.13 and when he is asked to recant, 00:11:13.17\00:11:17.64 he loses his determination in that moment. 00:11:17.67\00:11:21.58 And he asks for time. And he is given a day. 00:11:21.61\00:11:26.31 And he goes back into his room, and he pleads with the Lord, 00:11:26.35\00:11:30.22 and he is upset with himself, and he is chastising the devil 00:11:30.25\00:11:33.92 for making him weak at that moment and not allowing him 00:11:33.96\00:11:36.89 to say what he wants to say and what he needs to say. 00:11:36.93\00:11:39.29 And the next day he comes out, 00:11:39.33\00:11:40.66 and he makes his declaration before all of those individuals. 00:11:40.70\00:11:45.40 >>John: Ending, apparently, with those famous words, 00:11:45.43\00:11:47.67 "Here I stand. I can do no other." 00:11:47.70\00:11:49.64 >>Dr. Hasel: "So help me God." >>John: "So help me God." 00:11:49.67\00:11:51.24 >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. >>John: And that's, that's this. 00:11:51.27\00:11:54.64 You know, we shouldn't rush past the fact that 00:11:54.68\00:11:58.95 a theological dispute between the Roman Catholic Church, 00:11:58.98\00:12:03.99 the dominant ruling church of Europe at that time, 00:12:04.02\00:12:08.66 and an upstart made the news. 00:12:08.69\00:12:11.53 It was the biggest thing anybody was talking about. 00:12:11.56\00:12:13.40 What does that tell us about the role of Rome back then? 00:12:13.43\00:12:16.23 Just how big and influential was the church? 00:12:16.26\00:12:19.77 >>Dr. Hasel: The church was very influential. 00:12:19.80\00:12:21.57 The church actually inaugurated kings and, uh, crowned kings, 00:12:21.60\00:12:27.54 and so Charles V wanted to remain in good stead 00:12:27.58\00:12:30.85 with the church. 00:12:30.88\00:12:32.25 Charles V was only 21 years of age as he sat on the throne 00:12:32.28\00:12:35.92 there at the church in Worms, Germany. 00:12:35.95\00:12:38.45 And Charles was very anxious to resolve this, this problem. 00:12:38.49\00:12:42.96 Um, what is interesting, though, 00:12:42.99\00:12:45.33 is that when Luther took that stand, and he says, 00:12:45.36\00:12:47.96 "Unless I am convicted by reason and by Scripture, 00:12:48.00\00:12:54.14 I must stay true to my conscience." 00:12:54.17\00:12:55.87 When, when Luther said those words, 00:12:55.90\00:12:57.94 it, it shook all of Christianity. 00:12:57.97\00:12:59.77 And it, it put a line in the sand. 00:12:59.81\00:13:03.01 Luther, in that moment, became the figurehead, if you will, 00:13:03.04\00:13:06.68 of the Protestant Reformation. 00:13:06.72\00:13:08.35 >>John: So, for someone to stand up 00:13:08.38\00:13:09.62 in a picky denomination today and say, 00:13:09.65\00:13:13.76 "Unless you can convince me by reason and the Scriptures," 00:13:13.79\00:13:17.13 well, we'd expect nothing less than that 00:13:17.16\00:13:20.40 from 90 percent of, of people who preach. 00:13:20.43\00:13:23.43 That was revolutionary then. 00:13:23.47\00:13:24.97 >>Dr. Hasel: It was revolutionary. 00:13:25.00\00:13:25.93 >>John: Why? >>Dr. Hasel: Because he was 00:13:25.97\00:13:26.87 going against the tradition of the church. 00:13:26.90\00:13:29.00 He was going against dogmas 00:13:29.04\00:13:31.27 that had come in for centuries already 00:13:31.31\00:13:33.54 and had become entrenched in the church. 00:13:33.58\00:13:35.94 The whole concept of purgatory and the sale of indulgences 00:13:35.98\00:13:39.55 was not only a doctrinal issue; it was a financial issue. 00:13:39.58\00:13:43.22 It was a huge, huge issue for the church. 00:13:43.25\00:13:45.75 What's interesting in this document as well is that 00:13:45.79\00:13:48.39 if you look at the inside cover, Luther is depicted 00:13:48.42\00:13:51.73 opposite of the emperor Charles V. 00:13:51.76\00:13:54.10 They're both standing. 00:13:54.13\00:13:55.10 Luther in his simple monkish robes 00:13:55.13\00:13:58.40 with a dove on his shoulder, opposite of him is the emperor. 00:13:58.43\00:14:02.27 And the emperor is outfitted in medieval armor 00:14:02.30\00:14:05.14 from head to foot, holding a sword in one hand 00:14:05.17\00:14:08.41 and the globe with the cross on the other. 00:14:08.44\00:14:10.78 He is the one in charge, and he's a warrior king. 00:14:10.81\00:14:13.45 So, even in Luther's account, this standoff was not only 00:14:13.48\00:14:19.15 a religious standoff, it was a civil standoff, 00:14:19.19\00:14:22.19 and it was a standoff proclaiming 00:14:22.22\00:14:25.09 the conscientious right of individuals to believe, 00:14:25.13\00:14:28.40 based on the Bible, what they were convicted of 00:14:28.43\00:14:31.53 in their hearts. 00:14:31.57\00:14:32.50 >>John: We can't forget this. 00:14:32.53\00:14:34.50 Basically we accept that today as a given. 00:14:34.54\00:14:38.07 But several hundred years ago, it was not a given. 00:14:38.11\00:14:40.81 Luther was boldly going where few had ever gone before 00:14:40.84\00:14:44.05 in defending his right to believe 00:14:44.08\00:14:46.61 what he wanted to believe based on how he read the Scriptures. 00:14:46.65\00:14:49.28 It was revolutionary for that time. 00:14:49.32\00:14:51.05 >>Dr. Hasel: That's right. 00:14:51.09\00:14:52.22 Of course, Luther had been whisked off on the way back 00:14:52.25\00:14:54.29 from that, that Diet of Worms. He was whisked off 00:14:54.32\00:14:57.26 and thought at first probably he was, he was kidnapped. 00:14:57.29\00:15:00.96 He was kidnapped by Frederick the Elector, 00:15:01.00\00:15:03.70 his very good friend and his benefactor, 00:15:03.73\00:15:06.27 who sponsored him to be a professor at the University 00:15:06.30\00:15:09.04 of Wittenberg, and he placed him in safety 00:15:09.07\00:15:11.54 in the Wartburg Castle. 00:15:11.57\00:15:12.77 So Luther arrives in the Wartburg Castle, 00:15:12.81\00:15:15.08 kind of on house arrest for his own protection. 00:15:15.11\00:15:17.81 Nobody knows where he is. Many people think he's dead. 00:15:17.85\00:15:21.28 And Luther, for a time there, is wrestling. 00:15:21.32\00:15:23.79 He has a respite from all the crises around him. 00:15:23.82\00:15:27.29 And then he says, "I must begin to write. 00:15:27.32\00:15:30.26 "I must begin to write. I must do something. 00:15:30.29\00:15:33.19 Who will stand on the wall to defend Christianity now?" 00:15:33.23\00:15:37.60 And God puts in his heart that the most powerful thing 00:15:37.63\00:15:40.74 that he can do after writing his, his, uh, account here 00:15:40.77\00:15:44.44 is to translate the Scriptures into the German vernacular. 00:15:44.47\00:15:48.18 He based his work off of Erasmus of Rotterdam, 00:15:48.21\00:15:51.51 who had just brought together, some years earlier, 00:15:51.55\00:15:53.92 the Greek texts. 00:15:53.95\00:15:55.42 This is a very rare, uh, book here because it's also 00:15:55.45\00:15:58.79 a third edition. Luther used the second edition 00:15:58.82\00:16:01.39 for his translation of the New Testament. 00:16:01.42\00:16:03.69 The third edition was used by Tyndale, 00:16:03.73\00:16:06.56 by the translators of the King James Version, 00:16:06.59\00:16:09.46 by the translators of all the other Protestant versions, 00:16:09.50\00:16:11.93 including the French version. 00:16:11.97\00:16:13.17 But, uh, the earlier version was used by Luther to translate 00:16:13.20\00:16:16.67 the September Testament, which came out in September of 1522 00:16:16.71\00:16:21.61 and for the first time really, um, put the best language skills 00:16:21.64\00:16:26.55 together in translating from the original Greek 00:16:26.58\00:16:30.19 the German Bible. 00:16:30.22\00:16:31.55 And this is for Germans today still the standard text. 00:16:31.59\00:16:35.62 The Luther Bible is what the King James Bible 00:16:35.66\00:16:38.53 is often for the English-speaking world. 00:16:38.56\00:16:41.53 >>John: So what did Luther translating the Bible 00:16:41.56\00:16:44.63 do in the day? What was the reaction? 00:16:44.67\00:16:47.64 How did that shift or alter or challenge or change society? 00:16:47.67\00:16:51.21 What did it do for Christians? 00:16:51.24\00:16:52.51 >>Dr. Hasel: Well, in 1229, 00:16:52.54\00:16:54.38 there was the Council of Toulouse that met. 00:16:54.41\00:16:56.95 Um, it wasn't a ecumenical, full council of the church, 00:16:56.98\00:17:00.42 it was more of a local council, but it had outlawed 00:17:00.45\00:17:02.85 the translation of the Bible into the vernacular languages 00:17:02.88\00:17:06.45 of Europe. >>John: It was illegal. 00:17:06.49\00:17:07.89 >>Dr. Hasel: It was illegal-- French, German, English. 00:17:07.92\00:17:10.89 The Bible was supposed to stay in Latin as a vulgate, um, 00:17:10.93\00:17:15.30 and as Jerome had translated it in 383. 00:17:15.33\00:17:19.03 And so, for Luther to do what he did was illegal. 00:17:19.07\00:17:22.24 Uh, it was, uh, daring. It was incredibly, uh, bold. 00:17:22.27\00:17:27.78 But he believed that it was the Bible that would transform 00:17:27.81\00:17:31.71 the hearts of people, 00:17:31.75\00:17:33.18 and that without it, uh, Europe would stay in darkness, 00:17:33.21\00:17:36.48 just as he as a monk had been in darkness before he began 00:17:36.52\00:17:40.42 to read and understand Scripture. 00:17:40.46\00:17:41.99 >>John: On his way to the diet or before he got to the diet, 00:17:42.02\00:17:44.19 he was promised safe passage by the church. 00:17:44.23\00:17:48.63 Let's, let's be really frank about what that means. 00:17:48.66\00:17:50.87 The church said, "We won't kill you." 00:17:50.90\00:17:53.20 >>Dr. Hasel: Correct. 00:17:53.23\00:17:54.17 >>John: Which tells us something about the day 00:17:54.20\00:17:55.64 in which Luther lived. 00:17:55.67\00:17:56.64 This was a time when the church was very powerful 00:17:56.67\00:17:58.17 and where the church routinely did kill people 00:17:58.21\00:18:01.24 to defend itself and to defend its belief system and so forth. 00:18:01.28\00:18:04.58 >>Dr. Hasel: They would go to war, you know, 00:18:04.61\00:18:06.25 against various, uh, entities. 00:18:06.28\00:18:07.88 So Luther was in a very, very serious situation. 00:18:07.92\00:18:11.35 This simple monk in Germany began to turn things 00:18:11.39\00:18:14.79 upside down. 00:18:14.82\00:18:15.72 >>John: Turn things upside down he did. 00:18:15.76\00:18:19.79 What he started then reaches down to our day today. 00:18:19.83\00:18:24.10 It's why you can freely hold a Bible in your hand. 00:18:24.13\00:18:27.57 But Luther wasn't done. In fact, he was going to get 00:18:27.60\00:18:30.57 even more pointed in what he was saying. 00:18:30.61\00:18:33.11 I'll be back with that in just a moment. 00:18:33.14\00:18:35.21 ¤[music swells and ends]¤¤ 00:18:35.24\00:18:42.25 >>Announcer: Call now for today's free offer, 00:18:44.32\00:18:46.39 "From Script to Scripture." 00:18:46.42\00:18:48.06 Enjoy the rest of the conversation 00:18:48.09\00:18:49.82 between John Bradshaw and Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:18:49.86\00:18:52.56 including faith-building stories we couldn't fit 00:18:52.59\00:18:54.83 into today's program. 00:18:54.83\00:18:56.50 A rare opportunity to turn the pages of history, 00:18:56.53\00:18:59.17 see books that changed the world, 00:18:59.20\00:19:01.07 and learn insights that will grow your faith in God. 00:19:01.10\00:19:04.51 Call 800-253-3000 for the free DVD, 00:19:04.54\00:19:08.21 800-253-3000 00:19:08.24\00:19:10.95 or visit iiwoffer.com. 00:19:10.98\00:19:13.45 >>John Bradshaw: The prophet Daniel writes authoritatively 00:19:15.12\00:19:17.85 about the rise and fall of kingdoms, the fate of nations, 00:19:17.89\00:19:21.79 and the soon return of Jesus. 00:19:21.82\00:19:24.56 Join me for "Kingdom Come." 00:19:24.59\00:19:27.30 We'll witness the rise and fall of global powers. 00:19:27.36\00:19:30.73 We'll understand symbols found in the writings of the prophets. 00:19:30.77\00:19:34.90 And we'll learn how Bible prophecy applies 00:19:34.94\00:19:37.51 to our current reality. 00:19:37.54\00:19:40.04 Waiting for the world to get better seems futile. 00:19:40.08\00:19:43.38 We exist in the midst of global confusion, 00:19:43.41\00:19:46.58 in a world wrestling with the devastating effects 00:19:46.61\00:19:49.22 of sickness, war, and death. 00:19:49.25\00:19:52.39 Yet God encourages us: The dream is certain. 00:19:52.42\00:19:57.16 The interpretation can be trusted. 00:19:57.19\00:20:00.20 Jesus is coming back soon. 00:20:00.23\00:20:02.60 The best is yet to come. 00:20:02.63\00:20:05.87 Don't miss "Kingdom Come" as we explore the book of Daniel. 00:20:05.90\00:20:10.01 "Kingdom Come" 00:20:10.04\00:20:10.97 on It Is Written TV. 00:20:11.01\00:20:13.01 >>John Bradshaw: It's easy to forget today 00:20:15.91\00:20:17.78 that several hundred years ago 00:20:17.81\00:20:19.35 people were not able to access the Bible. 00:20:19.38\00:20:23.02 But that changed, thanks to the work of Martin Luther 00:20:23.05\00:20:25.59 and others like him who risked their lives, 00:20:25.62\00:20:28.12 and often gave their lives, to put the Word of God 00:20:28.16\00:20:31.16 into the hands of people. 00:20:31.19\00:20:32.76 I joined Dr. Michael Hasel recently at the Lynn H. Wood 00:20:32.79\00:20:36.06 Archaeological Museum just outside Chattanooga, Tennessee, 00:20:36.10\00:20:40.24 where an exhibit of some very rare books told the story 00:20:40.27\00:20:43.57 of the Reformation, of Luther's fierce battle with his church, 00:20:43.61\00:20:47.91 and how that led to the advancement of the Word of God. 00:20:47.94\00:20:51.71 So tell me about this document here, 00:20:51.75\00:20:53.31 Luther's attack on purgatory. 00:20:53.35\00:20:55.22 >>Dr. Hasel: Yes. So this is published in 1530. 00:20:55.25\00:20:58.05 This is now quite some time after his 95 Theses in 1517. 00:20:58.09\00:21:02.82 And Luther in this small, uh, booklet, pamphlet again, 00:21:02.86\00:21:06.96 does not mince any words. 00:21:07.00\00:21:08.16 He becomes even more direct than he was in the 95 Theses. 00:21:08.20\00:21:11.83 This is now published in German. 00:21:11.87\00:21:13.30 By this time Luther is publishing in German. 00:21:13.34\00:21:15.27 He's no longer publishing in Latin 00:21:15.30\00:21:17.44 and addressing his concerns to the church. 00:21:17.47\00:21:19.87 He's moved beyond that; he's now addressing the people. 00:21:19.91\00:21:22.58 And in this particular book he is going through, 00:21:22.61\00:21:24.95 point by point, exposing the false claims 00:21:24.98\00:21:29.05 of the church as regards to the doctrine of purgatory, 00:21:29.08\00:21:31.45 this in-between state between heaven and hell, 00:21:31.49\00:21:33.96 which is not really supported in Scripture. 00:21:33.99\00:21:36.42 And he is, uh, beginning--this says, 00:21:36.46\00:21:39.49 [speaks in German] "the first chapter," 00:21:39.53\00:21:42.20 and then each section that comes after that is, 00:21:42.23\00:21:45.27 [speaks in German] "the second lie," "the third lie," 00:21:45.30\00:21:49.60 "the fourth lie." I mean, 00:21:49.64\00:21:51.04 he is not using politically correct language. 00:21:51.07\00:21:53.14 He is basically saying, these are lies that have been 00:21:53.17\00:21:55.54 perpetuated for centuries by the church, and the Bible, 00:21:55.58\00:22:00.12 in the book of Galatians, teaches a whole 'nother way 00:22:00.15\00:22:02.58 of salvation, which is through Jesus Christ. 00:22:02.62\00:22:04.92 >>John: What did this do to the average believers? 00:22:04.95\00:22:08.26 I mean, so, so Germany, the German states were Catholic. 00:22:08.29\00:22:11.59 What happened as a result of, of this ministry? 00:22:11.63\00:22:14.23 >>Dr. Hasel: The princes began to take a stand, 00:22:14.30\00:22:16.90 and the princes actually at one point came 00:22:16.93\00:22:20.10 at the Diet of Speyer, they came to the emperor, 00:22:20.14\00:22:23.47 and there they were told to sign a document to basically go back 00:22:23.51\00:22:28.34 to Catholicism, and they stood one by one 00:22:28.38\00:22:32.15 in that particular location, and they said, 00:22:32.18\00:22:34.25 "We want to read to you the document that we have written 00:22:34.28\00:22:37.09 that expresses our beliefs based on Scripture." 00:22:37.12\00:22:40.46 And in the most forthright and daring way, 00:22:40.49\00:22:43.39 they stood up before the emperor and said, 00:22:43.43\00:22:46.29 "We, we will, we will not go back. 00:22:46.33\00:22:49.26 This is what we believe, and this is why we believe it." 00:22:49.30\00:22:51.43 And the emperor had no choice; 00:22:51.47\00:22:53.13 because it was all of them together, the emperor 00:22:53.17\00:22:56.10 had no choice but to accept their declaration, 00:22:56.14\00:22:58.77 um, or lose his, his kingdom because these were the leaders 00:22:58.81\00:23:03.48 of his kingdom. 00:23:03.51\00:23:04.55 >>John: So this was not a battle of personalities, 00:23:04.58\00:23:06.78 even though there were some large personalities involved. 00:23:06.82\00:23:09.22 This was a matter of people saying, 00:23:09.25\00:23:11.89 "We want to believe what the Bible says." 00:23:11.92\00:23:14.49 This wasn't anti-Catholicism or hatred of the pope 00:23:14.52\00:23:17.89 or anything like that. 00:23:17.93\00:23:19.63 This was a matter of people saying this is God's truth, 00:23:19.66\00:23:24.43 and we want to advance with the Bible. 00:23:24.47\00:23:26.10 Is, is that accurate? 00:23:26.13\00:23:27.14 >>Dr. Hasel: That's how it began. It began 00:23:27.17\00:23:28.50 with Luther reading Scripture and realizing, 00:23:28.54\00:23:30.84 hey, there is, there are things here in Scripture 00:23:30.87\00:23:33.81 that don't correspond to what I've been taught as a theologian 00:23:33.84\00:23:38.28 and as a monk and as a learned person in the church. 00:23:38.31\00:23:42.25 This is teaching me something different. 00:23:42.28\00:23:43.92 What do I do with this? 00:23:43.95\00:23:45.29 As a result of that, with time, Luther, however, became 00:23:45.32\00:23:49.59 more and more convicted that the pope was the antichrist, 00:23:49.62\00:23:53.66 and he came out boldly, even more boldly as time went on, 00:23:53.70\00:23:57.77 on that particular element. 00:23:57.80\00:23:59.73 That is one element that really galvanized Protestantism 00:23:59.77\00:24:02.64 as well. Um, we look back at it today and say, 00:24:02.67\00:24:05.44 "Well now, those were daring words to speak." 00:24:05.47\00:24:07.91 And yet, um, this was the conviction that was held 00:24:07.94\00:24:12.28 because of the differences between the teachings, uh, 00:24:12.31\00:24:16.32 regarding salvation that the church was teaching 00:24:16.35\00:24:19.09 and the teachings that Scripture held. 00:24:19.12\00:24:21.16 >>John: Speaking about the teachings of salvation here, 00:24:21.19\00:24:24.79 Luther's "Commentary on Galatians," 00:24:24.83\00:24:28.50 how did this come about, and, and what was the motivation 00:24:28.53\00:24:30.83 for, for Luther writing about Galatians? 00:24:30.87\00:24:33.30 >>Dr. Hasel: Galatians was one of the books 00:24:33.34\00:24:35.00 that really sparked Luther's interest in the whole concept 00:24:35.04\00:24:38.81 of righteousness by faith. 00:24:38.84\00:24:40.84 And he began to lecture on Galatians 00:24:40.88\00:24:43.24 at the University of Wittenberg to his students. 00:24:43.28\00:24:45.45 His students took copious notes of what he had been saying 00:24:45.48\00:24:49.18 and what he was saying in class, and later on they took 00:24:49.22\00:24:52.29 those notes, and they asked Luther permission to print those 00:24:52.32\00:24:55.89 as a commentary, which they did with Luther's supervision. 00:24:55.92\00:25:00.06 And what we see here is the English translation 00:25:00.10\00:25:02.40 of that commentary of Galatians. 00:25:02.43\00:25:04.43 This edition that we have here was printed in 1774, 00:25:04.47\00:25:08.67 two years before the Declaration of Independence 00:25:08.70\00:25:10.84 here in the United States. 00:25:10.87\00:25:12.14 But the original was published in 1575. 00:25:12.17\00:25:15.88 And what is interesting here is that Luther had a very high view 00:25:15.91\00:25:20.82 of this work in particular. 00:25:20.85\00:25:22.42 He says, "If I had my way about it, they would republish 00:25:22.45\00:25:26.86 "only those of my books which have doctrine, 00:25:26.89\00:25:29.82 my Galatians, for instance." 00:25:29.86\00:25:31.49 So he really saw this as one of the important works 00:25:31.53\00:25:35.16 that he had produced in his lifetime. 00:25:35.20\00:25:37.83 >>John: Can you imagine living in a world 00:25:37.87\00:25:39.57 where you could not possess a Bible? 00:25:39.60\00:25:42.67 Where the Word of God wasn't taught and wasn't heard 00:25:42.70\00:25:45.77 by the people? 00:25:45.81\00:25:47.14 Well, that was this world, until Martin Luther came along. 00:25:47.18\00:25:51.11 And it's the world today for a lot of people. 00:25:51.15\00:25:53.88 Even though it's widely available, 00:25:53.92\00:25:55.28 many people don't have the Bible in their possession. 00:25:55.32\00:25:58.42 And, unfortunately, there are people with the Bible 00:25:58.45\00:26:02.12 who are not reading the Bible. 00:26:02.16\00:26:03.93 They're not accessing the promises of God. 00:26:03.96\00:26:06.23 They're not reading the great stories or the accounts 00:26:06.26\00:26:08.96 of the life of Jesus. 00:26:09.00\00:26:11.23 I want to encourage you. Take this book, delivered to us 00:26:11.27\00:26:14.87 at great cost by the shedding of blood, by the loss of life, 00:26:14.90\00:26:19.54 take this book and read what it says. 00:26:19.57\00:26:23.18 Discover the God of its pages. 00:26:23.21\00:26:25.71 Yield your heart to the Savior to whom it points. 00:26:25.75\00:26:30.15 This is the Word of God. 00:26:30.19\00:26:32.79 Make the decision today to bring it into your life 00:26:32.82\00:26:35.42 more and more, and let it guide you from this world 00:26:35.46\00:26:40.60 to the world to come. 00:26:40.63\00:26:42.23 >>John: Thank you for remembering that It Is Written 00:26:43.23\00:26:45.17 exists because of the kindness of people just like you. 00:26:45.20\00:26:48.60 To support this international life-changing ministry, 00:26:48.64\00:26:51.87 please call us now at 800-253-3000. 00:26:51.91\00:26:56.04 You can send your tax-deductible gift 00:26:56.08\00:26:57.58 to the address on your screen, 00:26:57.61\00:26:59.05 or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 00:26:59.08\00:27:02.95 Thank you for your prayers and for your financial support. 00:27:02.98\00:27:05.72 Our number again is 800-253-3000, 00:27:05.75\00:27:09.89 or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 00:27:09.92\00:27:12.93 Let's pray together now. 00:27:14.00\00:27:15.66 Our Father in heaven, today we thank You for the Bible. 00:27:15.70\00:27:18.67 We thank You for the Word of God, 00:27:18.70\00:27:20.14 and we thank You for Jesus, to whom sacred Scripture points. 00:27:20.17\00:27:25.47 Lord, would you give us grace to hide Your Word in our heart, 00:27:25.51\00:27:28.81 to live by its precepts, and to be guided by Your Holy Spirit, 00:27:28.84\00:27:33.48 of whom Scripture speaks? 00:27:33.52\00:27:35.42 We thank You for this Word. 00:27:35.45\00:27:37.55 Let it be the foundation and fabric of our lives, 00:27:37.59\00:27:40.12 I pray and ask You, in Jesus' name. 00:27:40.16\00:27:44.03 Amen. 00:27:44.06\00:27:45.29 Thanks so much for joining me. 00:27:45.33\00:27:46.59 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time. 00:27:46.63\00:27:48.86 Until then, remember: 00:27:48.90\00:27:50.43 "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, 00:27:50.47\00:27:54.40 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" 00:27:54.44\00:27:59.11 ¤[dramatic theme music]¤ 00:27:59.14\00:28:04.15 ¤[music ends]¤¤ 00:28:22.83\00:28:24.83