>>John Bradshaw:
This is It Is Written.
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I'm John Bradshaw.
Thanks for joining me.
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When you open the Bible,
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you find some remarkable
things said about Jesus.
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I'm gonna turn
to John chapter 10
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and read to you
what it says in verse 10.
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John 10, verse 10.
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Honestly, it's one of
the most hopeful verses
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that you'll find
in all of the Bible.
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These are the
words of Jesus Christ.
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He said, "The thief does
not come except to steal,
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and to kill, and to destroy.
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I have come that
they may have life,
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and that they may
have it more abundantly."
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How would you feel about
having more abundant life?
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What would that
look like to you?
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Longer life? Happier life?
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Healthier life?
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Well, there are
certain things that you can do
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about all of those things.
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And today I'm talking to a
couple of very special guests,
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doctors David
DeRose and Greg Steinke,
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coauthors of the book
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"30 Days to Natural
Blood Pressure Control."
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Blood pressure--high
blood pressure is a killer.
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Doctors, thanks very
much for joining me today.
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>>Dr. Greg Steinke:
Thank you for having us.
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>>John: Dr. DeRose, how big a
problem is high blood pressure?
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>>Dr. David DeRose:
It is a huge problem.
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One billion people
throughout the world
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have high blood pressure.
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The numbers are staggering
in our country as well.
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If you look at our
lifetime, our life span,
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about an 80 percent likelihood
that any individual in the US
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will develop
high blood pressure.
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>>John: Looking
through the book,
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I found a
staggering number in here:
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80,000 people succumb or
die from natural disasters
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around the world-- that's a lot.
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>>Dr. DeRose:
That's a lot of people.
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>>John: It's a tragedy--
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9.4 million, more
than a hundred times more,
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die from high blood pressure.
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It is a massive
problem, isn't it?
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>>Dr. DeRose:
It's a huge problem,
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and we've gotta do
something about it, as a world.
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>>John: Dr. Steinke, you're
a family practice physician.
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How many of the patients you see
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are dealing with high
blood pressure issues?
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>>Dr. Greg Steinke: Every
day we see multiple patients
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who become so used to
the problem that it, it, it--
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we think about it as part of
our, uh, everyday, uh, aspect.
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>>John: I mean, you
think about this, right?
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You meet someone with
diabetes. "Yep, sure."
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Heart issues? "Sure."
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High blood pressure--
this is normal for people,
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and we just accept it
as part of everyday life.
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Need we accept high
blood pressure as the norm?
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>>Dr. Steinke: People think, uh,
that it, they feel fine with it,
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and so they act
like nothing's wrong.
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And yet, uh, it comes
and kills them eventually
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through, uh, a
process, uh, that's very sneaky.
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>>John: Yeah, okay, so
this is the silent killer;
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we've referred to that before,
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the silent killer,
which is high blood pressure.
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Now, uh, we've spoken
before about this, Dr. DeRose,
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you and I, uh, about some of
the ways that people can treat
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high blood pressure.
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Medication is a viable way
to treat high blood pressure,
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except that...?
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>>Dr. DeRose: Well,
except for two things.
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One, although it may
be the first course--
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it may be the thing you
need to do out of the box--
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you cannot lower your blood
pressure enough with medications
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to get the maximal benefit.
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Once you get to around
130/80, somewhere in that range,
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further lowering of blood
pressure, for many people,
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actually increases
the risk of complications.
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But you wanna get that blood
pressure as low as possible
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with natural therapies.
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So natural
therapies have the most power
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to help us avoid
the silent killer.
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>>John: Dr. Steinke, what
are some things that elevate
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blood pressure, that some
people might be surprised.
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Well, really? That
elevates my blood pressure?
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Can you think of
some of those things?
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>>Dr. Steinke: Well, one really
surprising thing in the research
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is what actually
happens in the womb.
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Amazingly, as a mother is
going through her pregnancy,
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if she has a lot of stress--she
goes through mental stress,
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physical stress, emotional
stress that's very strong,
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a loss of a loved
one, a death in the family,
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if in the 28-week
to 36-week continuum--
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that's where the
kidneys are developing--
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that stress occurs,
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that can affect the
development of the kidney,
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and the kidney has less
nephrons that develop properly.
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Nephrons--these
are the filtering units
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that push blood
through to make urine.
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And if there's less nephrons,
as you go through life,
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um, your blood
pressure is eventually affected.
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>>John: Now, does
that mean, then, that a,
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that a pregnant woman
who has a loss in the family,
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a parent who dies-- does this,
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does this doom the unborn
child to these complications?
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>>Dr. DeRose: We
wouldn't say "dooms,"
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but we definitely have things
that are out of our control
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that affect us, and to me, John,
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it's so fascinating
when we read the Bible,
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that God often had special
concern for pregnant women,
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especially when
God had a special plan.
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I think of, uh,
people like John the Baptist.
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I think of, uh, Samson.
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Special instruction,
because that time of pregnancy,
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the baby is being affected by
what's happening to the mother.
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>>John: There seems to be a
science, or a branch of science,
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that we're starting to learn
more about what takes place
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in the womb-- the
prenatal influence.
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That's, that's the
real thing, isn't it?
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>>Dr. Steinke: Absolutely.
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We need to have special
attention to pregnant moms.
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We need to give pregnant moms,
um, more room in jobs, etc.
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so that they're
not overstressed.
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Whatever we can do as
family members to support
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a pregnant mother will do
wonderful things for that baby.
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>>John: Yeah, that's important.
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Now, that's something
that people might be surprised
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raises blood pressure.
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Well, let me turn that
around before I ask you
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about a specific
chapter in the book.
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What's something, Dr. DeRose,
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that people might be surprised
to learn lowers blood pressure?
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>>Dr. DeRose: Well, it's
your day-to-day eating habits.
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A lot of people think, uh,
some of this is just immaterial.
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Most people have heard
about the salt connection,
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so they make that.
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But they don't realize that
there are a lot of other things
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that we eat that raise
blood pressure and, by contrast,
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other things lower it.
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Make it simple: Eat more
plant foods, whole plant foods,
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and you are going to
have lower blood pressure.
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Study after
study has shown that.
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>>John: Now, the chapter here--
I had it open a moment ago--
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"Eating Your Way to
Lower Blood Pressure"
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I think is the
name of the chapter,
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or something very similar--
it's very, very helpful.
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Um, so, eat better;
lower blood pressure.
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But, how bad is it for
me that I grab that hotdog
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on the street corner,
or the burger at lunch, uh,
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several times during the week?
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What does that really
do to my blood pressure?
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>>Dr. Steinke: You
know, it was interesting--
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I had a patient; he
was a marathon runner.
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He was in great shape.
He was only in his thirties.
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But he'd come in, and
his blood pressure was always
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very, very high: 150s,
160s, uh, over 70s or 80s.
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He was worried
about his blood pressure.
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He couldn't get it down.
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He was trying to
do everything right.
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But he was eating too much meat.
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He thought, oh, I'll just eat
some red meat here and there,
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no big deal; it's
just part of my lifestyle.
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But he was very sensitive.
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As little as, uh, red
meat as little as once a week
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was raising his blood pressure.
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Finally, he realized
that this was the issue.
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He cut it out completely.
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His blood pressure
went completely to normal.
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>>John: Is it fair to say
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most everyone would
realize the same benefit,
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or are some people predisposed
to certain, uh, stimuli?
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>>Dr. DeRose: We don't
want to say "the same benefit,"
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because we're all unique,
but definitely dietary change.
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A review, in fact, of
some 80 studies showed
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that whether your
blood pressure was normal
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or whether it was elevated,
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eating more plant foods--
substituting animal products
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for plant foods,
lowered the blood pressure.
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>>John: Why are
plant foods so powerful?
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>>Dr. DeRose:
There's a number of reasons.
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My favorite one to talk
about are natural compounds--
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we call them phytochemicals--
that are in plants.
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We now know that
among those phytochemicals
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are ACE inhibitory peptides.
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Now, the average person
might say, "Well, who cares?"
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But these compounds in plants
are the same type of compounds
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that are in prescription drugs.
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So it's as if
the Creator has said,
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"Look, John, I don't want
you to have high blood pressure.
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Eat these foods that I gave
to Adam and Eve in the garden,
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and it will keep your
blood pressure more normal."
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>>John: Now, we
go way back, and so--
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in fact, we three go way back,
uh, so I know you're not cranky.
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Uh, and you're not
saying, uh, you got to become a,
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uh, some kind of diet radical.
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Although, not that
we'd necessarily be against
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somebody really fully embracing
the very best health principles.
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Tell me about the
sort of incremental changes
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a person can start to
make in their diet to be--
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you spoke about one:
eat--not eating red meat.
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What are some other
things that people can just do,
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say, try this
and see what happens?
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>>Dr. Steinke:
We really recommend
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a progressive approach.
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We realize that people can
only do so much at one time.
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Uh, fruits and vegetables,
magnesium, potassium, calcium--
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these all have strong
benefits for blood pressure.
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So how can I as a person
get more fruits and vegetables
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into my diet, you know?
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Can I bring them home
more? Can I make smoothies?
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What can I do to get
my blood pressure down
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with fruits and vegetables?
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Can I replace
certain foods that I'm eating
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with more simple foods,
like fruits and vegetables?
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>>John: I think it's true--
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you know, we talk about
the standard American diet--
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S-A-D, SAD, the SAD diet.
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Well, let's be honest.
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The average person's
eating a pretty sad diet.
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>>Dr. DeRose:
You're right, John.
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And what's interesting
about your whole question
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is we've got a
graph in this book,
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probably one of the
most powerful graphs,
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and I know it because--
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Greg has heard me
tell this story before--
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but someone who had
heard me present on this topic
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came up to me once,
some months after my lecture,
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said, "Dr. DeRose, your
lecture changed my whole life."
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And I guess, you know,
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it's possible I was tempted
to become proud at that moment,
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but the Lord immediately
removed any opportunity
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for me to be proud
because he next said,
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"But it was nothing you said."
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>>John: [laughs]
Oh, thank God for that.
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All right. All right.
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>>Dr. DeRose: And
so I'm thinking, well,
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how did my lecture change his
life, if it's nothing I said?
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He said, "It was that
graph that you showed."
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It's actually
figure 5.3 in the book.
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And what it shows is just where
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your line of
questioning is going.
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If you get some
of those red meats,
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some of those animal
products, out of the diet,
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the research shows you'll
lower your risk both of diabetes
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and high blood pressure.
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But the more you get rid
of those animal products,
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the lower and the lower
and the lower the risk gets.
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So, fascinating
data that's out there.
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Eat more of those plant foods;
you'll get more magnesium,
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more potassium, more
ACE inhibitory peptides,
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and your blood
pressure will tend to be lower.
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>>John: And you'll
have life more abundantly,
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which is what Jesus came
into this world to give us.
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There's more to cover.
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We'll be right back
with more in just a moment.
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>>John: So what do you do if
you or somebody you care about
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has high blood pressure?
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Well, you don't do nothing.
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There is something you can do.
It's important that you do it.
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And it's easy,
and it's effective.
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I'd like to offer you a free DVD
presented by Dr. David DeRose:
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>>John Bradshaw:
Thanks for joining me today
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I'm John Bradshaw.
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My guests today are
doctors David DeRose
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from CompassHealth Consulting
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and, uh, Greg Steinke, who's
a family practice physician
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in Lincoln City, Oregon.
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Gentlemen, we're
talking about a silent killer,
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uh, high blood pressure, which
is just, uh, a huge problem.
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We all know people who
are dealing with hypertension,
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and it's out of control.
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They don't know what to
do. They're taking medication.
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The medication doesn't work;
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it does work; it has
negative side effects, and--
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the key is our body is
the temple of the Holy Spirit.
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Jesus came so that we could
have the more abundant life.
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High blood pressure.
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Now, here's a
practical question.
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How do people even know
what their blood pressure is
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without, without going to
the doctor and making a copay?
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How can you advise someone how
to check their blood pressure?
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Not everybody has a
blood pressure cuff.
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>>Dr. Greg Steinke:
We actually recommend
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that you don't
initially go to the doctor
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to check your blood pressure.
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When you go to the
doctor, what happens?
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You're nervous.
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Um, your blood pressure
tends to be a lot higher.
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>>John: I've heard that.
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If, when you get
your blood pressure taken
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at the physician's office,
it gives you a higher reading
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because of the pressure
surrounding the situation.
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>>Dr. Steinke: Yeah, the "white
coat syndrome," they call it.
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>>John: Yeah. Okay.
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>>Dr. Steinke: So, check
your blood pressure at home
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in a natural setting, in
a setting you're used to.
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Um, if you don't own a
blood pressure cuff, go get one.
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Or perhaps you have a
friend or a family member
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who has a blood pressure cuff.
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Um, you can go
to various stores;
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there's
supermarkets and pharmacies
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that have blood pressure,
um, machines available.
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>>John: Are they accurate?
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>>Dr. Steinke: Um,
they're pretty accurate,
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for the most part.
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>>John: Accurate
enough? All right.
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>>Dr. Steinke: You wanna make
sure the cuff is the right size.
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Um, if the cuff is too
large, the pressure will be off;
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or too small, the
pressure will be off.
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But very important that,
uh, that you do it accurately.
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But checking your blood
pressure at home is important,
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especially if you're
making lifestyle changes
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and you're on medication.
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If you're beginning to
make some of these changes
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we're talking about, um,
your blood pressure will start
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to go down in many cases
over a period of a few weeks,
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perhaps a month.
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And if you're not
checking your blood pressure,
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you could start to
get side effects from, uh,
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the medications becoming too
powerful and making you dizzy,
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um, lightheaded, etc.
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>>John: Hmm. Okay, now,
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you really said
something that's key to this.
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In order to get your
blood pressure under control,
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you need to make changes, right?
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You gotta do some
things differently
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to what you're doing now.
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We become creatures of habit,
and without thinking it through,
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because we think
we're bulletproof
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and we're gonna live forever,
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we think that this
burger, my third one today,
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probably will hurt
that guy, but not me.
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Somebody
considering, thinking right now,
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"Yeah, I got to do something"--
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how do you move
that person to action?
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How do you encourage
that person to actually act
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on what they're hearing
now, rather than just say,
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"Oh, you'll get
around to that one day"?
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Dr. DeRose?
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>>Dr. David DeRose: There's
nothing more powerful, John,
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that I can recommend
than actually praying
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about your health concerns.
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The Holy Spirit is there to
convict, to guide, to comfort.
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So the Holy Spirit
is able to point out
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what you need to change today,
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and I often tell
my audiences that--
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"I can't tell
you what to change.
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I can't tell you how big to
make those dietary changes."
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But I say, "Go in
the quiet of your room
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and ask God what
He's calling you to do.
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If God's calling you to do it,
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He's not gonna
ask you to do anything
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that He's not fully committed
to change in your life."
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And that's what
the Holy Spirit does.
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It gives you the
vision to change,
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and then the power
to make those changes.
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>>John: All right, so you take
this to God, lay it at His feet,
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and then expect God to
work this out in your life?
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>>Dr. DeRose: Well, you
know, I'll be honest with you.
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God sometimes
works miraculously,
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but other times He says, "This
is the way; walk ye in it."
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>>John: Oh, pardon me; I don't
mean to suggest inactivity,
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but you're gonna do this--
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the best way to do this
is in cooperation with God.
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>>Dr. DeRose:
Definitely, definitely.
00:16:05.96\00:16:07.30
>>John: Now,
somebody who is on medication,
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and they, they,
they're making changes,
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and they wanna
cut back their meds,
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what's the responsible
way of going about that?
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>>Dr. DeRose: The responsible
way is tell your physician.
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Whoever's prescribing those
medications should be involved
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in that process.
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And I'm typically, when
I'm seeing those numbers
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getting down, 120 or
below, in most people,
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we're starting to
back off those medications.
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be back with more--
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more that can change
your life in this world
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and in the world to
come-- in just a moment.
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>>John Bradshaw:
Thanks for joining me today
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on It Is Written, where
we're discussing your health
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in this world and
in the world to come.
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Look after yourself here,
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more meaningful
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and therefore that
impacts you eternally.
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Dr. David DeRose, when it
comes to high blood pressure,
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which we've learned today
kills over 9 million people
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in the world every year--
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that's kills them,
not just cripples them--
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that's more than a hundred
times the amount of people
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that die in natural disasters.
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Uh, I'm really
interested that, that toxins--
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you talk about
this in your book--
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toxins can
elevate blood pressure.
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What toxins and how?
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>>Dr. David DeRose: One group
of toxins that we talk about
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that is especially devastating
are the heavy metals.
00:19:07.38\00:19:10.35
So whether it's
lead, whether it's mercury,
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whether it's cadmium,
00:19:12.45\00:19:13.82
many of these heavy
metals raise blood pressure.
00:19:13.85\00:19:16.75
And the scary thing is
many people are being exposed
00:19:16.79\00:19:19.59
to these in their
typical dietary choices.
00:19:19.62\00:19:23.73
So we're being
bombarded with toxins,
00:19:23.76\00:19:26.39
contributing to
higher blood pressure,
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and this is adding to the
burden of suffering worldwide.
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>>John: Now, we know to
get lead out of our paint,
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but how do we get lead
or mercury out of our diet?
00:19:33.07\00:19:35.97
>>Dr. DeRose: The
problem is most animal products
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concentrate these toxins.
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And unfortunately, one food that
has some good constituents--
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that's fish--some of those
fish have those omega-3 fats
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that lower blood pressure
and decrease inflammation.
00:19:47.45\00:19:50.59
Unfortunately, those same
fish often concentrate toxins.
00:19:50.62\00:19:54.72
So the solution in the
book and in our lectures,
00:19:54.76\00:19:57.56
we say don't go to the
fish for the omega-3 fats;
00:19:57.59\00:20:00.90
go to the place
where the fish got it,
00:20:00.93\00:20:02.93
and that is from
plant sources of nutrition.
00:20:02.96\00:20:05.57
>>John: Now, um, another
thing that I find fascinating
00:20:05.60\00:20:08.44
is that there are some
supplements that you can take
00:20:08.47\00:20:10.81
that help lower,
uh, blood pressure.
00:20:10.84\00:20:13.54
And it's--and we're not in
the supplement business here,
00:20:13.58\00:20:15.64
but you are in the, in the
business of giving good advice.
00:20:15.68\00:20:18.35
So what are some
things that people can take,
00:20:18.38\00:20:20.32
uh, that would help
with high blood pressure?
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>>Dr. Greg Steinke: Um,
the list, uh, that we looked at
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was magnesium, coenzyme Q10,
uh, omega-3, which we mentioned.
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And one of my
favorites is hibiscus tea.
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Hibiscus is one of the
most popular, uh, components
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of herbal teas.
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And hibiscus tea
has a number of studies,
00:20:37.47\00:20:40.00
randomized trials, which
are careful, controlled studies,
00:20:40.04\00:20:42.97
showing that hibiscus
lowers blood pressure,
00:20:43.00\00:20:46.01
as strongly as medication.
00:20:46.04\00:20:48.01
>>John: As
strongly as medication?
00:20:48.04\00:20:49.61
>>Dr. Steinke: That's correct.
00:20:49.64\00:20:50.45
>>John: Well,
that's fascinating.
00:20:50.48\00:20:51.81
>>Dr. Steinke: So, three
cups a day of hibiscus tea, um,
00:20:51.85\00:20:55.38
will lower your blood pressure
as strongly as medication.
00:20:55.42\00:20:58.39
But one caution with that:
00:20:58.42\00:21:00.09
Make sure you
rinse out your mouth
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after you're finished
drinking hibiscus tea.
00:21:01.72\00:21:03.79
You know why?
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>>John: No, why?
00:21:04.49\00:21:05.69
>>Dr. Steinke: Because, um,
it can be hard on the enamel.
00:21:05.73\00:21:08.20
>>John: Okay,
well, that's good advice.
00:21:08.23\00:21:10.20
Now, you're both Christians.
00:21:10.23\00:21:11.47
Dr. DeRose, you're a
minister of the gospel.
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Uh, as you look into the Bible,
00:21:14.07\00:21:16.54
you find sort of a prescription
in the Word of God--
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you, you've referred to
this-- in the Beatitudes.
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Walk us through some of these
principles in the Beatitudes,
00:21:23.48\00:21:26.88
which talk about a
relationship with God
00:21:26.92\00:21:29.52
and some of the
lifestyle impacts that has
00:21:29.55\00:21:32.95
that deals with
high blood pressure.
00:21:32.99\00:21:34.62
>>Dr. DeRose: It's,
it's a fascinating chapter,
00:21:34.66\00:21:36.36
because, as Greg and I
and Trudy, our other coauthor,
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were praying about how
do we present to people
00:21:39.16\00:21:41.76
across the spiritual spectrum
what are spiritual principles
00:21:41.80\00:21:45.93
that can impact
our blood pressure,
00:21:45.97\00:21:47.50
we were drawn to the Beatitudes.
00:21:47.54\00:21:49.10
And I'll give you an example.
00:21:49.14\00:21:50.47
As Jesus began that
statement of blessings,
00:21:50.51\00:21:53.71
the introduction to
His Sermon on the Mount,
00:21:53.74\00:21:55.64
He said, "Blessed
are those who mourn."
00:21:55.68\00:21:59.58
That was very
early-- the second beatitude.
00:21:59.61\00:22:01.48
>>John: Yeah.
00:22:01.52\00:22:02.42
>>Dr. DeRose:
"Blessed," the first one,
00:22:02.45\00:22:03.49
"Blessed are the poor
in spirit"--the first one.
00:22:03.52\00:22:06.15
You may say, poor
in spirit, mourning?
00:22:06.19\00:22:08.16
This doesn't--how would
this help blood pressure?
00:22:08.19\00:22:10.13
>>John: And those were
very countercultural principles
00:22:10.16\00:22:12.36
in the context in
which Jesus shared them.
00:22:12.39\00:22:14.20
>>Dr. DeRose: Most definitely.
00:22:14.23\00:22:15.43
But as we look at those, and
we look at the next beatitude,
00:22:15.46\00:22:18.40
about "Blessed are the meek,"
00:22:18.43\00:22:20.24
these--again, countercultural--
but all of them, they're,
00:22:20.27\00:22:23.51
they're basically helping
us recognize our dependence,
00:22:23.54\00:22:27.34
recognize our need for
God, humbling ourselves.
00:22:27.38\00:22:31.01
And we find that
this is so important
00:22:31.05\00:22:33.05
in one of the elements
that we spend a whole chapter
00:22:33.08\00:22:35.22
dealing with, and
that is social support.
00:22:35.25\00:22:37.79
Because what we know about blood
pressure is just like we found
00:22:37.82\00:22:40.92
with diabetes and heart
disease and other conditions:
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If you connect
with other people,
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and you make
changes with other people,
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you, in your church,
have a group of people saying,
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"We're gonna lower our
blood pressure together,"
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that magnifies the impact.
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But the only way that
happens, John, optimally,
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is if I'm humble enough
to learn from other people.
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If I'm coming down to someone
else's level, if I'm meek,
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if I'm submissive, if
I'm repenting of my own sins,
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if I'm mourning for
my own shortcomings,
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that's when this
social support is maximized.
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>>John: So in Matthew
chapter 5, Dr. Steinke,
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let me, let me run a couple
of these blessings past you.
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"Blessed are the
merciful," verse 7,
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"for they shall obtain mercy.
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Blessed are the pure in
heart, for they shall see God.
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Blessed"--maybe
this is an easy one--
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"Blessed are the peacemakers,
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for they shall be
called the sons of God."
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Talk about heart health or, or,
or high blood pressure health
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in relation to that.
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>>Dr. Steinke: One of
the most important aspects,
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I believe, is forgiveness.
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"Blessed are the merciful"--
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people who are willing
to extend, uh, an attitude
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of forgiveness to
those who hurt them.
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Um, there's a study
done by Dr. Dick Tibbits
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in Florida Hospital--amazing
research, an eight-week study,
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where he took people who,
many of them, had anger issues,
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blood pressure issues,
and he walked them through
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a forgiveness,
uh, training program.
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And by the end, their
blood pressures were down.
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They had a notable improvement
in their blood pressure.
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Forgiveness, letting yourself,
um, put, put forgiveness
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on another person.
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And also with God, um,
asking God to forgive you
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for your shortcomings
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and letting that peace,
uh, come into your heart;
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that lowers the cortisol and the
stress hormones in your body,
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improving your blood pressure.
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>>John: It's not
always easy to accept:
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the Bible says, "All
things work together for good."
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Ultimately, we, we've
gotta trust God in the midst
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of all things, don't we?
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>>Dr. DeRose: That's right.
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>>John: Trust Him. We
don't always understand it.
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Why did my loved one die?
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Why am I
wrestling with this illness?
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If you see the big picture, it's
still possible to trust God.
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>>Dr. DeRose: That's right.
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>>John: Okay, as we wrap up,
just a couple of quick points,
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something we haven't discussed
about, uh, high blood pressure,
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its connection to faith in God,
its connection to good health,
00:24:56.46\00:24:58.79
spiritual health--
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what would you, what
would you add as final words?
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>>Dr. DeRose: You
know, one thing I would say
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is make sure that you
know your blood pressure
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and that you do something
about it if it's elevated.
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Just a simple
motivational message.
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>>John: Dr. Steinke?
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>>Dr. Steinke: Absolutely.
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You know, think about
why you wanna be healthy.
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Why, ultimately, do
you wanna be healthy?
00:25:17.18\00:25:19.51
Whether it has religious
and spiritual aspects to it--
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maybe it has everything to
do with your grandchildren,
00:25:22.88\00:25:25.65
or your children, or, or
the friends that you have.
00:25:25.69\00:25:30.13
Think about the deeper aspect
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and use that as a motivator
to change lifestyle behaviors.
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>>John: Dr. Greg
Steinke, Dr. David DeRose,
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thanks so much
for joining me today.
00:25:38.27\00:25:39.60
>>Dr. DeRose: Our privilege.
00:25:39.63\00:25:41.00
>>John: So what do you do if
you or somebody you care about
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has high blood pressure?
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Well, you don't do nothing.
There is something you can do.
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It's important that you do it.
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And it's easy,
and it's effective.
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I'd like to offer you a free DVD
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>>John Bradshaw: Gentlemen,
thanks for joining me today.
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Let's pray together.
Can we do that? Let's pray.
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Our Father in heaven,
00:26:47.37\00:26:48.90
we are truly
thankful that You have
00:26:48.94\00:26:51.31
an eternity stretching before us
00:26:51.34\00:26:53.71
that You want us to
inhabit and experience with You.
00:26:53.74\00:26:57.61
We thank You that in Jesus You
have done everything necessary
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to secure our salvation.
00:27:02.08\00:27:04.12
We thank You that in this world,
where so much is going wrong,
00:27:04.15\00:27:07.79
we can experience
so much going right,
00:27:07.82\00:27:10.63
through faith in
Christ, the One who died for us,
00:27:10.66\00:27:14.10
who ascended to heaven for us,
00:27:14.10\00:27:15.66
who intercedes for
us at Your right hand.
00:27:15.70\00:27:18.60
Father, let Your
Spirit draw us to You,
00:27:18.63\00:27:21.90
to find peace and
wholeness and health,
00:27:21.94\00:27:26.27
physically and
spiritually, in You.
00:27:26.31\00:27:29.44
Bless us and keep us,
as we trust You fully.
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In Jesus' name. Amen.
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Thank you for joining me today.
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I'm looking forward to
seeing you again next time.
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Until then, remember:
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"It is written, 'Man
shall not live by bread alone,
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but by every word that proceeds
from the mouth of God.'"
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