>>John Bradshaw: This is It Is Written. 00:00:18.75\00:00:20.42 I'm John Bradshaw. 00:00:20.45\00:00:21.42 Thanks for joining me. 00:00:21.45\00:00:22.88 Father's Day rolls around once every year. 00:00:22.92\00:00:25.39 It's a time when we celebrate our dads-- 00:00:25.42\00:00:27.46 or our grandfathers, too, for that matter. 00:00:27.49\00:00:29.89 And it's an opportunity to reflect on the blessing 00:00:29.92\00:00:32.39 that fathers can be and are in our lives. 00:00:32.43\00:00:34.96 It's also an opportunity for fathers to reflect upon 00:00:35.00\00:00:37.70 their role as fathers and what sort of father they are being 00:00:37.73\00:00:41.60 as God's man here on this earth. 00:00:41.64\00:00:44.57 I have several guests with me today, 00:00:44.61\00:00:46.51 including my associate speaker at It Is Written, 00:00:46.54\00:00:48.64 Pastor Eric Flickinger; 00:00:48.68\00:00:50.25 Pastor Yves Monnier from It Is Written; 00:00:50.28\00:00:52.51 and Dr. Ron Smith, who has a doctor of ministry in counseling 00:00:52.55\00:00:55.32 and a PhD in psychology. 00:00:55.35\00:00:56.89 Gentlemen, thanks very much for joining me today. 00:00:56.92\00:00:59.39 Dr. Smith, we're going to start with you. 00:00:59.42\00:01:01.66 Take a moment to talk about the special role 00:01:01.69\00:01:03.99 that is the role of a father. 00:01:04.03\00:01:06.56 What is it that fathers bring to a family 00:01:06.59\00:01:08.80 or to a relationship to the life of a child that's unique? 00:01:08.83\00:01:11.87 >>Ron Smith: I think it's important to note 00:01:11.90\00:01:13.20 from the outset that there is a female as well as a male 00:01:13.23\00:01:16.84 dimension of who God is compositely. 00:01:16.87\00:01:19.57 But fathers have the opportunity to showcase before our children 00:01:19.61\00:01:22.91 in a very real way the image of God from the masculine side. 00:01:22.94\00:01:27.55 And that side is pregnant with so many implications 00:01:27.58\00:01:31.42 of positive thinking, assuming responsibility. 00:01:31.45\00:01:35.22 >>John: Now, when you stop and when you put it in those terms, 00:01:35.26\00:01:37.86 that a father demonstrates to the child 00:01:37.89\00:01:40.86 the characteristics of God, 00:01:40.90\00:01:43.37 that places pretty heavy responsibility on dads, 00:01:43.40\00:01:47.10 doesn't it? 00:01:47.14\00:01:48.27 >>Dr. Smith: Absolutely. And on parents. 00:01:48.30\00:01:49.87 But in this particular case, on fathers, absolutely. 00:01:49.90\00:01:52.67 >>John: Now, when we speak about fatherhood, 00:01:52.71\00:01:53.84 I think it's key to realize that as we speak 00:01:53.88\00:01:56.01 about the role of a father, 00:01:56.04\00:01:57.31 the role of a father and the role of a mother 00:01:57.35\00:01:58.85 overlaps an awful lot. 00:01:58.88\00:02:00.22 It's not always easy to draw a clean line between the two. 00:02:00.25\00:02:03.75 But let's begin, we've got to do our best to speak to fathers 00:02:03.79\00:02:06.32 and fatherhood today. 00:02:06.35\00:02:08.09 Let me ask this question: 00:02:08.12\00:02:10.49 What does it take to be a good father? 00:02:10.53\00:02:12.66 Who wants to have a run at that first? 00:02:12.69\00:02:13.90 I should point out that I'm the father of two children. 00:02:13.93\00:02:17.17 Eric, you're the father of two children. 00:02:17.20\00:02:19.50 Yves, you're the father of two children. 00:02:19.53\00:02:21.60 Dr. Smith, you don't break the mold at all. 00:02:21.64\00:02:23.74 >>Dr. Smith: I'm the father of two children. 00:02:23.77\00:02:24.94 >>John: Two children. All right. So eight kids between us. 00:02:24.97\00:02:27.58 I'm sure we have our share of successes, and, 00:02:27.61\00:02:30.25 I'm positive, 00:02:30.28\00:02:31.81 more than our fair share of failures. 00:02:31.85\00:02:34.02 What does it take to be a good dad? 00:02:34.05\00:02:35.18 Who wants to take a run at that? 00:02:35.22\00:02:36.52 >>Eric: One of the things that you absolutely have to have is, 00:02:36.55\00:02:38.59 if you want to be a good father, 00:02:38.62\00:02:39.72 is time to spend with your children. 00:02:39.75\00:02:41.39 You know, good relationships are built on time, 00:02:41.42\00:02:43.73 whether it's between us and our children or us and our God. 00:02:43.76\00:02:46.83 Just like Dr. Smith mentioned a moment ago, 00:02:46.86\00:02:48.70 they get a pretty good idea who God is from us. 00:02:48.73\00:02:51.20 And if we don't spend time with them, 00:02:51.23\00:02:53.37 they're going to get an idea that maybe 00:02:53.40\00:02:55.20 God doesn't want to spend time with them either. 00:02:55.24\00:02:56.54 >>John: All right. You're a pastor and an evangelist. 00:02:56.57\00:03:00.14 You're a pastor and a departmental director. 00:03:00.18\00:03:03.41 I'm a pastor and an evangelist and I lead a ministry. 00:03:03.45\00:03:06.28 Dr. Smith, you're a church administrator 00:03:06.31\00:03:08.55 with enormous responsibilities, 00:03:08.58\00:03:10.35 but you're a pastor and an evangelist and a writer 00:03:10.39\00:03:14.36 and, and, and, and, and... 00:03:14.39\00:03:16.79 So you're talking about spending time with children. 00:03:16.83\00:03:20.16 It is every parent's battle, or many parents' battle. 00:03:20.20\00:03:23.20 How in the world do you find enough time for your kids, 00:03:23.23\00:03:27.37 especially when you're a very busy person? 00:03:27.40\00:03:29.57 And then let's talk about this, 00:03:29.60\00:03:32.11 this thing about quality time and quantity time. 00:03:32.14\00:03:35.24 First, how do you find the time? 00:03:35.28\00:03:38.01 >>Yves: Well, John, what I've discovered 00:03:38.05\00:03:39.35 is that uh, quality time comes with quantity. 00:03:39.38\00:03:44.05 There's no way on earth that you can get to the point of quality 00:03:44.09\00:03:48.79 with your children if you have not invested that quantity time. 00:03:48.82\00:03:54.10 You asked the question, how do you take that time? 00:03:54.10\00:03:57.90 Well, you make a choice. 00:03:57.93\00:04:00.14 I had a wise elder who came to me. 00:04:00.17\00:04:04.04 My children were young. 00:04:04.07\00:04:05.24 He put his arm around me, and he said, 00:04:05.27\00:04:07.54 “Listen to me very carefully. One day when you're old, 00:04:07.58\00:04:11.25 if the Lord doesn't return before then, 00:04:11.28\00:04:13.65 one day when you're old, you're not going to wish, 00:04:13.68\00:04:17.05 oh, if only I had gone to one more board meeting. 00:04:17.09\00:04:20.32 If only I had gone to one more school board meeting. 00:04:20.36\00:04:22.79 If only I had done one more visit.” 00:04:22.82\00:04:24.76 He said, 00:04:24.79\00:04:25.83 “Those will not be the if-onlys in your life.” 00:04:25.86\00:04:28.86 That opened my eyes, and I determined, 00:04:28.90\00:04:31.37 this is my priority, my family. 00:04:31.40\00:04:34.50 >>John: So you've, you've just got to make that time. 00:04:34.54\00:04:38.67 What happens when you don't make that time? 00:04:38.71\00:04:42.14 Have you seen anything? 00:04:42.18\00:04:43.28 Dr. Smith, you've, you've, as a mentor to many, 00:04:43.31\00:04:46.61 as a church leader, you've seen undoubtedly what happens 00:04:46.65\00:04:51.05 when fathers don't take enough time for their kids. 00:04:51.09\00:04:54.36 So there's a dad now, he's listening to us talk, 00:04:54.39\00:04:57.66 he's watching us, and he's thinking, mmm, time. 00:04:57.69\00:05:00.36 But he's saying to himself, 00:05:00.40\00:05:01.70 man I'm busy, and I've got this great career, 00:05:01.73\00:05:03.87 and that sucks up a lot of my time. 00:05:03.90\00:05:06.17 What will he learn one day 00:05:06.20\00:05:08.87 because he didn't take enough time for his kids? 00:05:08.90\00:05:11.11 >>Dr. Smith: I think when we understand the importance 00:05:11.14\00:05:13.38 of building our children into our routine, 00:05:13.41\00:05:16.91 whatever that is, whether it's a heavy responsibility 00:05:16.95\00:05:19.48 or a lighter responsibility, 00:05:19.51\00:05:21.55 it could be very lonely to have a parental obligation 00:05:21.58\00:05:25.79 and responsibility, and our children aren't engaged with us, 00:05:25.82\00:05:28.96 and we aren't engaged with them. 00:05:28.99\00:05:30.26 By joining each other, 00:05:30.29\00:05:32.03 the journey can be a fun one and a sweet one. 00:05:32.06\00:05:34.23 >>John: As a father, what have you learned from your father? 00:05:34.30\00:05:40.57 Might be all good, might be all bad, might be a little of each. 00:05:40.60\00:05:44.74 What lessons did you learn from your dad? Yves? 00:05:44.77\00:05:51.11 >>Yves: Well, two things I learned from my dad. 00:05:51.15\00:05:52.85 Number one, my dad never had any worries. 00:05:52.88\00:05:56.45 At least that's what I believed. 00:05:56.48\00:05:58.45 Because the moment he would walk inside the threshold of the home 00:05:58.49\00:06:03.36 he was with us and he focused on us, 00:06:03.39\00:06:06.16 and never thought that he had any concerns, 00:06:06.19\00:06:08.96 any burdens in his life. 00:06:09.00\00:06:10.90 Now, later on, of course, 00:06:10.93\00:06:12.10 as I became older and became a pastor, 00:06:12.13\00:06:15.60 I realized, oh, my dad had a lot of worries. 00:06:15.64\00:06:18.47 But he never let on. 00:06:18.51\00:06:19.87 And that was, that was very gracious on his part. 00:06:19.91\00:06:22.84 Number two, my dad traveled a lot, and I missed him. 00:06:22.88\00:06:27.42 And so I determined, you know, 00:06:27.45\00:06:28.68 I'm not going to do this with my children. 00:06:28.72\00:06:31.55 He, uh, he had a calling, 00:06:31.59\00:06:33.25 and I respected that calling and respect that calling. 00:06:33.29\00:06:36.32 But uh, I determined that I'm not going to be 00:06:36.36\00:06:39.83 so often an absentee father. 00:06:39.86\00:06:42.36 So that's why I made a, a, a conscious decision 00:06:42.40\00:06:46.17 for the time that my children are at home, 00:06:46.20\00:06:49.40 living under the same roof, 00:06:49.44\00:06:51.34 this will be the time that I will give to them. 00:06:51.37\00:06:54.58 >>John: I look at my dad's life. 00:06:54.61\00:06:55.54 My dad was an uncomplicated sort of a man, 00:06:55.58\00:06:58.41 uh, from an uncomplicated background. 00:06:58.45\00:07:01.42 And I, I doubt that I could say my father was the perfect father 00:07:01.45\00:07:04.75 or the perfect person. 00:07:04.79\00:07:06.49 But I learned a lot of what I learned about parenting 00:07:06.52\00:07:09.69 from my dad, 00:07:09.72\00:07:10.86 reflecting on my dad's role as a father in our family. 00:07:10.89\00:07:15.23 And you know what I found? 00:07:15.26\00:07:16.83 Some of the most helpful things I've learned from my father 00:07:16.87\00:07:18.90 I've learned from the mistakes he made. 00:07:18.93\00:07:21.30 I don't mean cataclysmic mistakes. 00:07:21.34\00:07:22.90 I mean maybe some of those smaller mistakes. 00:07:22.94\00:07:26.57 Rather than be embittered by the things my dad didn't get right, 00:07:26.61\00:07:30.35 I've simply taken those on board and said, 00:07:30.38\00:07:32.01 okay, I see what didn't work. 00:07:32.05\00:07:33.98 And I'm determining to, 00:07:34.02\00:07:36.38 you know, not to perpetuate that, 00:07:36.42\00:07:38.65 whatever that might have been. 00:07:38.69\00:07:39.95 I don't mean there's anything really dark. 00:07:39.99\00:07:42.26 But I believe that you can learn, 00:07:42.29\00:07:43.73 if your eyes are open, you can learn a lot from the mistakes 00:07:43.76\00:07:45.89 of the people that you've, that you've seen 00:07:45.93\00:07:48.13 and that you've observed up close. 00:07:48.16\00:07:51.33 Um, what I did learn from my father was religious commitment, 00:07:51.37\00:07:56.30 commitment to God. 00:07:56.34\00:07:58.01 Now, my dad was of a faith that I am now not. 00:07:58.04\00:08:02.18 Uh, nevertheless, his life was a picture of devotion to God, 00:08:02.21\00:08:06.78 and he modeled for me how important it is to be faithful 00:08:06.82\00:08:11.09 to God and have God at the very center of your life. 00:08:11.12\00:08:13.29 Dr. Smith, what'd you learn from your father? 00:08:13.32\00:08:15.19 >>Dr. Smith: First and foremost, 00:08:15.22\00:08:16.32 he advised me to factor God in. 00:08:16.36\00:08:18.53 He says, “If you really want to be cool-- 00:08:18.56\00:08:20.23 I sense you want to be cool, son-- 00:08:20.26\00:08:22.16 factor God into your life.” 00:08:22.20\00:08:23.37 Then he cited, “In all thy ways acknowledge Him, 00:08:23.40\00:08:26.47 and He [will] direct [your] path.” 00:08:26.50\00:08:27.87 Secondly, he said, you know, “Practice being accountable. 00:08:27.90\00:08:32.67 Work hard. Work hard.” 00:08:32.71\00:08:36.01 And, “Go to the ant, thou sluggard,” 00:08:36.04\00:08:38.11 the proverbial statement-- >>John: Sure. 00:08:38.15\00:08:39.21 >>Dr. Smith: ...“consider her ways and be wise.” 00:08:39.25\00:08:41.58 And the third one that sticks with me, he says, 00:08:41.62\00:08:44.82 “Dream big. There's nothing you can, that you can't do.” 00:08:44.85\00:08:47.59 Um, without a vision, “the people perish,” 00:08:47.62\00:08:50.26 that third proverbial statement. 00:08:50.29\00:08:51.63 So, in that three-prong approach to life, he sustained me. 00:08:51.66\00:08:55.60 And some of our moments in Coney Island in Brooklyn, New York, 00:08:55.63\00:08:58.37 eating ice cream, he would share that, that, 00:08:58.40\00:09:00.90 those principles with me. 00:09:00.94\00:09:02.87 >>John: One of the things I've, 00:09:02.90\00:09:03.87 I've been careful to instill in my children, 00:09:03.91\00:09:05.27 and they have yet to make their mark in the world, 00:09:05.31\00:09:07.41 so we're going to see how well this sticks: 00:09:07.44\00:09:10.71 Think big. You can be whatever you want to be. 00:09:10.75\00:09:14.48 I've made it very clear to my kids, 00:09:14.52\00:09:15.95 if you choose to fail, 00:09:15.98\00:09:17.32 then you'll probably be pretty good at that. 00:09:17.35\00:09:19.45 But if you reach for the stars, 00:09:19.49\00:09:21.22 if you, if you throw yourself into life 00:09:21.26\00:09:23.43 and you purpose to get, to do the very best that you can be-- 00:09:23.46\00:09:26.73 and I don't mean because I aspire for my children 00:09:26.76\00:09:29.53 to live in a mansion and drive a Rolls Royce. 00:09:29.56\00:09:31.67 The better my kids do, 00:09:31.70\00:09:33.17 the better they excel in their chosen field, 00:09:33.20\00:09:35.07 the more use they're going to be to God, 00:09:35.10\00:09:36.37 because they've got more talent and gifts to, uh, 00:09:36.40\00:09:39.07 to put into serving God in whatever field that is. 00:09:39.11\00:09:42.04 But I've found--and it's so far been a help-- 00:09:42.08\00:09:45.71 believe in your kids. Tell them you believe they can. 00:09:45.75\00:09:49.48 There is no limit to what you can do. 00:09:49.52\00:09:52.59 Think big. Work hard. Strive. 00:09:52.62\00:09:55.09 Uh, if they take hold of just a little bit of how, 00:09:55.12\00:09:58.19 how well I've told them they can do in this life, 00:09:58.23\00:10:00.36 they'll end up doing pretty well. 00:10:00.40\00:10:02.10 Eric, we'll get to you in just a moment. 00:10:02.13\00:10:03.37 Fatherhood, from a biblical perspective. 00:10:03.40\00:10:05.67 We'll open up the Bible in a moment and look 00:10:05.70\00:10:07.07 at a couple of Bible passages, and fathers from the Bible. 00:10:07.10\00:10:11.51 We'll be right back. 00:10:11.54\00:10:13.04 ¤[Music]¤ 00:10:13.07\00:10:18.38 >>John: Some of the most famous words ever written tell us that 00:10:20.62\00:10:24.12 “God so loved the world.” 00:10:24.15\00:10:27.16 The same book in which those words are written tell us that 00:10:27.19\00:10:29.36 “God is love.” 00:10:29.39\00:10:31.43 Go deep into the love of God with today's free offer, 00:10:31.46\00:10:36.40 “A Father's Love.” 00:10:36.43\00:10:37.80 To receive “A Father's Love,” 00:10:37.83\00:10:39.40 call us on 800-253-3000 00:10:39.43\00:10:42.54 or visit us online at itiswritten.com. 00:10:42.57\00:10:45.71 You can write to the address on your screen and receive free 00:10:45.74\00:10:49.14 “A Father's Love.” 00:10:49.18\00:10:50.51 ¤[Music]¤ 00:10:51.61\00:10:58.02 >>John: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written. 00:10:58.05\00:10:59.82 I'm John Bradshaw. 00:10:59.85\00:11:00.96 With me, Pastor Yves Monnier from It Is Written, 00:11:00.99\00:11:03.39 Dr. Ron Smith, and Pastor Eric Flickinger, 00:11:03.43\00:11:06.70 my associate speaker at It Is Written. 00:11:06.73\00:11:08.56 We're talking about fatherhood. 00:11:08.60\00:11:10.73 It's that Father's Day time of year. 00:11:10.77\00:11:12.33 What does it mean to be a father, 00:11:12.37\00:11:13.60 and how can a dad be a successful dad? 00:11:13.64\00:11:16.67 So Dr. Smith, let me ask you about the importance of, 00:11:16.71\00:11:19.14 of a father bonding with his kids. 00:11:19.17\00:11:21.11 How important is that? 00:11:21.14\00:11:23.04 >>Dr. Smith: It's very important. 00:11:23.08\00:11:24.25 And through our bonding I learned that my dad 00:11:24.28\00:11:27.12 was very much about relationship, relationships. 00:11:27.15\00:11:31.35 I grew up with two siblings, two sisters, 00:11:31.39\00:11:34.36 and he emphasized the importance of caring for my sisters, 00:11:34.39\00:11:37.43 but more importantly, 00:11:37.46\00:11:39.03 uh, doing to others what I want done to me. 00:11:39.06\00:11:42.26 >>John: So I want to ask this question: 00:11:42.30\00:11:43.50 how do you bond with your children? 00:11:43.53\00:11:46.13 How do you form that strong relationship with your kids? 00:11:46.17\00:11:49.67 Yves? 00:11:49.70\00:11:51.01 >>Yves: Well, I have a 26-year-old son 00:11:51.04\00:11:53.38 who's very busy in his career, 00:11:53.41\00:11:55.74 but we find time very often to talk to each other on the phone. 00:11:55.78\00:11:59.71 And on a recent phone call, I said, 00:11:59.75\00:12:02.12 “Daniel, so, why are we pretty close? because I think we are.” 00:12:02.15\00:12:07.36 And he said, “Dad, 00:12:07.39\00:12:09.29 it's because you spent a lot of time with me. 00:12:09.32\00:12:13.13 You went to all of my club activities. 00:12:13.16\00:12:16.53 When we had trips, you were there. 00:12:16.56\00:12:18.87 Uh, when I had a basketball game, 00:12:18.90\00:12:21.67 a football game, you were present. 00:12:21.70\00:12:24.21 You made sure that that time with me was a priority. 00:12:24.24\00:12:28.24 And, Dad, those times with me have made a huge difference.” 00:12:28.28\00:12:32.81 And, uh, and he said, 00:12:32.85\00:12:34.72 “That's why we are as close as we are to this day.” 00:12:34.75\00:12:38.05 >>John: It seems like it keeps coming back to this question 00:12:38.09\00:12:39.95 of time with the kids. 00:12:39.99\00:12:40.92 Here's what I've found as, as a way. 00:12:40.96\00:12:43.36 How do I bond with my kids? 00:12:43.39\00:12:45.09 However I have to, however I can. 00:12:45.13\00:12:47.76 I remember when my son decided he wanted to learn to fish 00:12:47.76\00:12:50.07 or be a fisherman. 00:12:50.10\00:12:51.53 I don't know where he got that. 00:12:51.57\00:12:53.13 Now, look, I don't want to upset the fisherfolk, 00:12:53.17\00:12:55.17 but, man, I hate fishing. 00:12:55.20\00:12:57.04 What a perfectly good way to ruin an otherwise great day, 00:12:57.07\00:13:00.31 sitting around, waiting for a fish to bite. 00:13:00.34\00:13:03.88 Color me odd, but I just, I don't get it. I never have. 00:13:03.91\00:13:07.45 Now, if you fish, I respect you, and that's okay. 00:13:07.48\00:13:09.95 But it's just never been my thing. 00:13:09.98\00:13:11.55 My son says, “Dad, I want to fish. 00:13:11.59\00:13:14.66 I want to go fishing.” 00:13:14.69\00:13:15.69 You know what? Suddenly I was a fisherman. 00:13:15.72\00:13:18.56 We were getting the right kind of fishing poles 00:13:18.59\00:13:20.33 and the right gear, and all the lures. 00:13:20.36\00:13:21.86 And I bought my son a tackle box, 00:13:21.90\00:13:23.70 and we filled it with the right stuff. 00:13:23.73\00:13:25.20 And we went fishing. We even caught some fish. 00:13:25.23\00:13:29.00 But it's in moments like, 00:13:29.04\00:13:29.94 if he, if he wanted to ride a unicycle, 00:13:29.97\00:13:32.71 I would have been right there riding a unicycle with him. 00:13:32.74\00:13:35.04 Uh, for me it was about doing whatever was there to do, 00:13:35.08\00:13:38.61 whatever you needed to do. 00:13:38.65\00:13:40.52 And, going back to what you said, Dr. Smith, 00:13:40.55\00:13:42.35 including my son in my life. 00:13:42.38\00:13:43.85 He would go with me. We'd travel together. 00:13:43.89\00:13:45.99 He'd be present for this and for that. 00:13:46.02\00:13:47.92 I would be present in his moments, 00:13:47.96\00:13:49.56 but I wanted to make sure that he was also present in mine. 00:13:49.59\00:13:52.09 There wasn't a time where it came to the place where I said, 00:13:52.13\00:13:55.13 “Hey, son, I don't need you with me.” 00:13:55.16\00:13:57.20 How about you? 00:13:57.23\00:13:58.27 Bonding with the children, how did you pull it off? 00:13:58.30\00:13:59.60 >>Dr. Smith: My wife shared something with me 00:13:59.63\00:14:01.34 that brought tears to my eyes. 00:14:01.37\00:14:02.87 When my son was a younger boy-- uh, he's a pastor now; 00:14:02.90\00:14:06.98 he considers himself a spiritual giant-- 00:14:07.01\00:14:08.91 but he was a young boy then, 00:14:08.94\00:14:11.08 and she brought tears to my eyes when she shared with me 00:14:11.11\00:14:14.25 what he said to her one day. 00:14:14.28\00:14:16.52 Uh, he said, “Mommy, I don't just love Daddy. I like Daddy.” 00:14:16.55\00:14:21.89 >>John: Oh, amen. 00:14:21.92\00:14:22.79 >>Dr. Smith: And basically, 00:14:22.82\00:14:24.23 I just placed a premium on being friends. 00:14:24.26\00:14:27.20 Let's just be pals; let's be friends. 00:14:27.23\00:14:28.90 But not, not friends to the, to the point where we blur 00:14:28.93\00:14:33.27 uh, the guidelines of order and accountability. 00:14:33.30\00:14:37.17 But let's enjoy one another. 00:14:37.21\00:14:38.64 And that happens through spending time 00:14:38.67\00:14:40.61 and doing things together. 00:14:40.64\00:14:41.98 >>John: You know, you have this thing where there are parents 00:14:42.01\00:14:43.65 who want to be their children's buddy, 00:14:43.68\00:14:45.38 but they don't want to be Dad or Mom. 00:14:45.41\00:14:47.18 And that, when those lines blur, that's, that's destructive. 00:14:47.22\00:14:51.42 But when you can be a friend as well as a parent, 00:14:51.45\00:14:54.26 now you've got a warm relationship there, haven't you? 00:14:54.29\00:14:57.03 I want to ask you about fathers in the Bible. 00:14:57.06\00:14:59.19 Point to a father in the Bible who impresses you, 00:14:59.23\00:15:01.46 either for good or for bad, and something we can learn 00:15:01.50\00:15:04.23 from that biblical father. 00:15:04.27\00:15:06.70 Dr. Smith, you first. 00:15:06.74\00:15:07.70 >>Dr. Smith: I think of, uh, Jairus in the Bible. 00:15:07.74\00:15:11.47 Um, in Mark, in the book of Mark, 00:15:11.51\00:15:13.74 we have a clear showcasing of a man who was accustomed 00:15:13.78\00:15:17.18 to being in charge. 00:15:17.21\00:15:18.45 Not just at the church, but he was in charge 00:15:18.48\00:15:20.25 of some very important things in culture. 00:15:20.28\00:15:22.85 And he was accustomed to fixing things. 00:15:22.88\00:15:25.85 People came to him for solutions when they needed solutions. 00:15:25.89\00:15:29.52 And he was the guy that pretty much resolved people's problems. 00:15:29.56\00:15:34.00 Uh, he encountered a problem of his own 00:15:34.00\00:15:36.70 one day that he couldn't fix. 00:15:36.73\00:15:39.00 In his encounter with Jesus, he wanted to tell Jesus what to do. 00:15:39.03\00:15:42.90 “Come to my house. Put your hands on her like this. 00:15:42.94\00:15:45.94 And if you follow my instructions, 00:15:45.97\00:15:47.21 if you take your hands out of your pocket 00:15:47.24\00:15:48.91 and do what I ask you to do, she'll be healed.” 00:15:48.94\00:15:51.31 And she, and, and, you know, Jesus is a gentleman. 00:15:51.35\00:15:53.82 Eventually He did that. 00:15:53.85\00:15:55.42 But He frustrated Jairus along the way by making him wait. 00:15:55.45\00:16:00.06 It was a long, it was a very short distance to the house 00:16:00.09\00:16:02.82 where the daughter was sick, but Jesus took His time, 00:16:02.86\00:16:04.83 and He moved slowly. 00:16:04.86\00:16:06.49 And He got there, and basically we learn from, 00:16:06.53\00:16:09.16 from the story of Jairus that there are a lot of things 00:16:09.20\00:16:11.60 in culture that we can fix, fix, 00:16:11.63\00:16:13.84 but there are some things we cannot fix. 00:16:13.87\00:16:16.67 What a wonderful lesson 00:16:16.71\00:16:17.54 to convey to our boys and our girls. 00:16:17.57\00:16:19.31 >>John: Amen. 00:16:19.34\00:16:20.31 >>Dr. Smith: Only God can fix all problems. 00:16:20.34\00:16:21.88 We can't fix everything. 00:16:21.91\00:16:23.14 >>John: Amen. That's so true. 00:16:23.18\00:16:24.51 Eric, a father from the Bible. 00:16:24.55\00:16:26.08 >>Eric: I think of Jacob. You know, Jacob had, 00:16:26.11\00:16:28.72 he came from a household where there was favoritism. 00:16:28.75\00:16:32.32 He was the less-favored son. 00:16:32.35\00:16:34.82 But when it came to his own household, 00:16:34.86\00:16:36.62 he showed favoritism as well. 00:16:36.66\00:16:38.79 You know, he showed favoritism to his son Joseph, 00:16:38.83\00:16:40.96 and that caused a great deal of problems within that family. 00:16:40.96\00:16:43.70 So we have a tendency, if we're not careful, 00:16:43.73\00:16:45.80 to, to bring things down from our own fathers, 00:16:45.83\00:16:48.40 whether good or bad. 00:16:48.44\00:16:50.21 So we have to look at each of those things and say, 00:16:50.24\00:16:52.84 “Is this a characteristic 00:16:52.87\00:16:54.01 that I want to bring down from my father, 00:16:54.04\00:16:56.21 or is this a characteristic that I hope my child takes from me?” 00:16:56.24\00:17:00.48 Because they do tend to pass from generation to generation, 00:17:00.52\00:17:02.65 if we're not careful. 00:17:02.68\00:17:03.72 >>John: You know, I think of David in the Bible. 00:17:03.75\00:17:05.22 David who had massive problems among his kids. 00:17:05.25\00:17:07.99 He had problems in his household. 00:17:08.02\00:17:10.06 And it seems to me that when Absalom went off the rails, 00:17:10.09\00:17:13.06 that may have been headed off 00:17:13.09\00:17:14.36 if, when there was a problem in the family, 00:17:14.40\00:17:16.97 David had A) handled it-- 00:17:17.00\00:17:19.43 we had, we had a terrible thing going on in David's family, 00:17:19.47\00:17:22.90 and it appears he just sort of let it go. 00:17:22.94\00:17:25.77 And then when he realized that Absalom was, 00:17:25.81\00:17:27.81 was in rebellion mode, 00:17:27.84\00:17:29.64 he had a hands-off policy rather than a hands-on policy. 00:17:29.68\00:17:32.41 There was a problem in his family with one of his kids, 00:17:32.45\00:17:34.98 and instead of going to the kid and saying, 00:17:35.02\00:17:36.85 hey, how about we go fishing? 00:17:36.89\00:17:38.85 Or let's just take a long drive together. 00:17:38.89\00:17:40.66 Grab your glove. I've got the ball. 00:17:40.69\00:17:42.36 Let's spend some time, 00:17:42.39\00:17:43.49 and bonding with that child, 00:17:43.53\00:17:46.13 bringing a problem out to the open and discussing it, 00:17:46.16\00:17:48.76 David, it seems, ignored what was going on, 00:17:48.80\00:17:52.43 and it just about cost him his kingdom, 00:17:52.47\00:17:54.24 and it jeopardized the future of Israel. 00:17:54.27\00:17:56.30 Yves, I'll come back to you in a moment, 00:17:56.34\00:17:57.91 and we'll ask you about a dad from the Bible. 00:17:57.94\00:18:00.38 Then we'll discuss a little bit more 00:18:00.41\00:18:01.88 this very important thing called fatherhood. 00:18:01.91\00:18:05.88 Back with more in a moment. 00:18:05.91\00:18:07.42 ¤[Music]¤ 00:18:07.45\00:18:12.29 >>Announcer: In Matthew 4:4, the Word of God says, 00:18:15.29\00:18:17.86 “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, 00:18:17.89\00:18:20.90 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'” 00:18:20.93\00:18:24.53 Every Word 00:18:24.57\00:18:25.77 is a one-minute Bible-based daily devotional presented by 00:18:25.80\00:18:28.60 Pastor John Bradshaw, 00:18:28.64\00:18:30.21 and designed especially for busy people like you. 00:18:30.24\00:18:33.24 Look for Every Word on selected networks 00:18:33.27\00:18:36.01 or watch it online every day on our website, 00:18:36.04\00:18:38.41 ItIsWritten.com. 00:18:38.45\00:18:40.38 Receive a daily spiritual boost. Watch Every Word. 00:18:40.42\00:18:43.85 You'll be glad you did. 00:18:43.89\00:18:48.72 ¤[Every Word theme music]¤ 00:18:48.76\00:18:53.86 >>John: Thanks for joining me. 00:18:53.90\00:18:55.00 In 2007, a 20-year-old film student suffered a seizure 00:18:55.03\00:18:58.27 on the platform of a subway station in New York City 00:18:58.30\00:19:01.07 and fell onto the tracks. 00:19:01.10\00:19:02.47 A construction worker named Wesley Autry 00:19:02.50\00:19:04.71 tried unsuccessfully to get the man off the tracks. 00:19:04.74\00:19:07.28 So with the train approaching, 00:19:07.31\00:19:08.98 he threw himself on top of the man 00:19:09.01\00:19:10.71 in a drainage trench right between the tracks. 00:19:10.75\00:19:13.38 The train passed over them so close 00:19:13.42\00:19:16.38 it left grease on Mr. Autry's cap. 00:19:16.42\00:19:18.95 Galatians 6:2 says, “Bear one another's burdens, 00:19:18.99\00:19:21.76 and so fulfill the law of Christ.” 00:19:21.79\00:19:24.13 Few people ever have the opportunity 00:19:24.16\00:19:25.96 to do something like that. 00:19:25.99\00:19:27.76 But most every day we get the chance to intervene 00:19:27.76\00:19:30.27 in someone's life, to make a difference, 00:19:30.30\00:19:32.87 to bear someone's burden and to show a love 00:19:32.90\00:19:35.00 that helps someone see the love of God. 00:19:35.04\00:19:37.47 Pray that God will give you the opportunity 00:19:37.51\00:19:39.47 to reveal Him and His love to others. 00:19:39.51\00:19:41.91 I'm John Bradshaw for It Is Written. 00:19:41.94\00:19:43.85 Let's live today by every word. 00:19:43.88\00:19:46.88 ¤[Music]¤ 00:19:49.65\00:19:55.62 >>John: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written. 00:19:55.66\00:19:58.16 Fatherhood: It must be one of the most important jobs 00:19:58.19\00:20:01.93 ever committed to any human being. 00:20:01.96\00:20:04.37 Yves Monnier, a father from the Bible who impresses you, 00:20:04.40\00:20:07.44 for good or for bad. 00:20:07.47\00:20:09.30 >>Yves: Well, this one impresses me for good. 00:20:09.34\00:20:10.97 This is the father from the story, 00:20:11.01\00:20:12.94 the parable, of the prodigal son. 00:20:12.97\00:20:15.04 We have the father here, prominent in the story. 00:20:15.08\00:20:18.35 This father, of course, represents God. 00:20:18.38\00:20:21.88 And one must assume that in this home, 00:20:21.92\00:20:24.62 it was a good home, and the father was perfect. 00:20:24.65\00:20:29.16 Well, even in a perfect home, in a good home, 00:20:29.19\00:20:33.19 in a good Christian home, sad things can happen. 00:20:33.23\00:20:37.50 The son, as we know, wandered, 00:20:37.53\00:20:39.67 and it probably broke the father's heart for sure. 00:20:39.70\00:20:43.81 Lesson number one, bad things can happen even in good homes. 00:20:43.84\00:20:48.08 But don't lose heart. 00:20:48.11\00:20:49.91 And that's lesson number two: The father never stopped 00:20:49.94\00:20:53.35 believing that his son would return. 00:20:53.38\00:20:55.65 And the story, of course, has a wonderful ending. 00:20:55.68\00:20:58.09 >>John: And when the son did return, 00:20:58.12\00:20:59.32 the father did not read him the riot act. 00:20:59.35\00:21:01.56 He welcomed him with love. 00:21:01.59\00:21:03.09 You know, you mention that because, 00:21:03.12\00:21:05.26 undoubtedly, there are fathers who are hanging their heads 00:21:05.29\00:21:07.40 and saying, “I wish I'd done it this way or that way.” 00:21:07.46\00:21:09.46 And while that may be the case, 00:21:09.50\00:21:11.97 uh, we remember that our heavenly Father 00:21:12.00\00:21:14.00 lost a third of His children 00:21:14.04\00:21:16.24 in a perfect place where there's never been any sin. 00:21:16.27\00:21:19.17 And a third of them just said, “We're outta here.” 00:21:19.21\00:21:21.91 Dr. Smith, how can we as fathers invest in our sons and daughters 00:21:21.94\00:21:26.61 so that they grow up to love God? 00:21:26.65\00:21:29.02 >>Dr. Smith: I think those three principles 00:21:29.05\00:21:31.02 really, really matter. 00:21:31.05\00:21:32.72 But Micah 6:8, as I emphasize, you know, 00:21:32.75\00:21:35.59 doing justly, love mercy, and walking humbly with God. 00:21:35.62\00:21:39.09 But also those three principles of 00:21:39.13\00:21:40.96 factoring God into your journey, dreaming big, and working hard. 00:21:40.96\00:21:46.13 >>John: Yves, you've raised a couple of kids to adulthood. 00:21:46.17\00:21:49.04 They both love God. 00:21:49.07\00:21:50.81 They're still faithful in the church. 00:21:50.84\00:21:53.04 This does not happen by accident. 00:21:53.07\00:21:55.38 What did you do to deliberately invest in your children 00:21:55.41\00:21:58.65 so that they, so that they were Christians 00:21:58.68\00:22:02.12 after they'd left your home? 00:22:02.15\00:22:03.82 >>Yves: I think sometimes the problem with, uh, 00:22:03.85\00:22:05.89 certain children, they see their father saying one thing, 00:22:05.92\00:22:10.49 and they see then their father doing something else. 00:22:10.53\00:22:13.90 So in my life I did my very best. And, to be honest, 00:22:13.93\00:22:17.87 I don't think that I was successful all the time, 00:22:17.90\00:22:20.97 but, I believe, a lot of the time, 00:22:21.00\00:22:24.41 and that is to make sure that my words and my actions 00:22:24.44\00:22:28.21 were in harmony. 00:22:28.24\00:22:29.51 And I believe that has had a profound impact upon them. 00:22:29.54\00:22:32.41 My children still, thank God, 00:22:32.45\00:22:35.08 to this day love and walk with Jesus. 00:22:35.12\00:22:37.75 >>John: It's been important to me, 00:22:37.79\00:22:38.65 raising my two kids, to, uh, 00:22:38.69\00:22:41.29 to try to give them a picture of what God is really like. 00:22:41.32\00:22:45.89 I think, I think, I might say I know, 00:22:45.93\00:22:49.06 but I think many kids are put off Christianity 00:22:49.10\00:22:54.24 by the picture of God that is taught them 00:22:54.27\00:22:57.07 or portrayed to them. 00:22:57.11\00:22:59.07 We mustn't teach our children that God is angry with them 00:22:59.11\00:23:02.34 or he's a hard taskmaster. 00:23:02.38\00:23:03.88 The Bible says that God is love. 00:23:03.91\00:23:06.72 Um, and I think it's crucial to transmit values 00:23:06.75\00:23:10.79 to our kids that teach them that God loves them no matter what. 00:23:10.82\00:23:15.36 Okay, let's be quick now. We have little time. 00:23:15.39\00:23:17.39 What not to do as a father. 00:23:17.43\00:23:19.43 >>Eric: Don't belittle your children. 00:23:19.46\00:23:20.96 You know, even if you are frustrated with them, 00:23:21.00\00:23:22.83 if you get angry, but if you belittle, belittle them, 00:23:22.86\00:23:26.23 it takes a lot of wind out of their sails. 00:23:26.27\00:23:28.64 Now, it's important to, to correct, 00:23:28.67\00:23:30.61 but, but not to speak down to. There's a big difference. 00:23:30.64\00:23:33.01 >>John: You know, I wish fathers would think 00:23:33.04\00:23:34.61 about the impact of their actions and their words. 00:23:34.64\00:23:37.08 What is saying this or doing this 00:23:37.11\00:23:38.61 actually going to do to my kid? 00:23:38.65\00:23:40.68 And when you belittle your children, 00:23:40.72\00:23:42.62 you put a wall between you and your child. 00:23:42.65\00:23:44.22 They don't trust you. 00:23:44.25\00:23:45.55 They don't think that you have their best interests in mind. 00:23:45.59\00:23:48.59 Dr. Smith, what are the do-nots? 00:23:48.62\00:23:50.13 >>Dr. Smith: Do not leave discouragement unmanaged. 00:23:50.16\00:23:53.43 >>John: Explain. 00:23:53.46\00:23:54.56 >>Dr. Smith: One of the most detrimental things 00:23:54.60\00:23:55.93 that can happen is to try to be a parent while discouraged 00:23:55.96\00:23:58.83 and not managing it. 00:23:58.87\00:23:59.70 We manage discouragement by praying 00:23:59.73\00:24:01.77 and teaching our children to pray, dealing with our anger. 00:24:01.80\00:24:04.61 Anger can go so many different ways, 00:24:04.64\00:24:06.31 but dealing with it responsibly helps us. 00:24:06.34\00:24:09.24 And there are a battery of principles, um, 00:24:09.28\00:24:11.71 dealing with dependency needs. 00:24:11.75\00:24:14.48 Stop playing God, which simply means if God forgives you, 00:24:14.52\00:24:17.42 you have to forgive yourself 00:24:17.45\00:24:18.59 so that you can forgive others as well. 00:24:18.62\00:24:20.72 >>John: Yves, what are the do-nots? 00:24:20.76\00:24:22.46 >>Yves: Do not affirm your children only when 00:24:22.49\00:24:25.23 they do something good-- 00:24:25.26\00:24:27.03 “Oh, I'm so proud of you; you got an A!" 00:24:27.03\00:24:29.90 “Oh, I'm so proud of you because you played 00:24:29.93\00:24:32.33 so well your musical instrument!”-- 00:24:32.37\00:24:35.00 because then they will equate that with, “Well, 00:24:35.04\00:24:38.17 he only affirms me, he only loves me, 00:24:38.21\00:24:40.91 because of things that I do.” 00:24:40.94\00:24:42.94 So I made sure that I affirmed them, 00:24:42.98\00:24:45.35 even when they did not do as well: 00:24:45.38\00:24:47.42 “I love you; I'm proud of you; 00:24:47.45\00:24:49.02 keep at it; you will do better next time.” 00:24:49.05\00:24:51.62 >>John: I would say, do not yell at your kids. 00:24:51.65\00:24:54.46 Do not. That doesn't mean you--there are, 00:24:54.49\00:24:56.26 you better yell if they're standing on the railroad track 00:24:56.29\00:24:58.59 and a train is coming. Do yell. 00:24:58.63\00:25:01.13 But the child dropped food on the floor 00:25:01.16\00:25:03.16 or left a sock on the staircase-- 00:25:03.20\00:25:05.63 Come on, man. Don't yell. 00:25:05.67\00:25:08.27 I think it's really, really important that a father, 00:25:08.30\00:25:10.67 who is the clearest picture of God 00:25:10.71\00:25:13.31 many children have growing up-- 00:25:13.34\00:25:14.64 you understand what I mean by that? 00:25:14.68\00:25:15.88 You spoke about it earlier. It's, it's important, uh, 00:25:15.91\00:25:20.32 that we control our emotions, and that we, that we, uh, 00:25:20.35\00:25:25.29 don't just blow up or lose it around our kids. 00:25:25.32\00:25:29.22 Uh, it's just destructive. 00:25:29.26\00:25:31.39 From my point of view, it's destructive. 00:25:31.43\00:25:32.79 Man, there's more we could say, 00:25:32.83\00:25:33.86 but I'm grateful that you've been here. 00:25:33.90\00:25:34.83 Eric, thanks so much. 00:25:34.86\00:25:36.23 Yves Monnier, appreciate it very much. 00:25:36.26\00:25:37.87 Dr. Smith, thank you for taking your time with us today. 00:25:37.90\00:25:41.24 Deeply appreciate it. 00:25:41.27\00:25:43.17 ¤[Music]¤ 00:25:43.20\00:25:47.91 >>John: Some of the most famous words ever written tell us that 00:25:50.28\00:25:53.98 “God so loved the world.” 00:25:54.02\00:25:56.99 The same book in which those words are written 00:25:57.02\00:25:58.65 tell us that “God is love.” 00:25:58.69\00:26:01.32 Go deep into the love of God with today's free offer, 00:26:01.36\00:26:06.26 “A Father's Love.” 00:26:06.29\00:26:07.60 To receive “A Father's Love,” 00:26:07.66\00:26:09.10 call us on 800-253-3000 00:26:09.13\00:26:12.30 or visit us online at itiswritten.com. 00:26:12.33\00:26:15.30 You can write to the address on your screen 00:26:15.34\00:26:17.47 and receive free “A Father's Love.” 00:26:17.51\00:26:20.61 Thanks for remembering that It Is Written 00:26:20.64\00:26:22.61 is a faith-based ministry. 00:26:22.64\00:26:24.61 And your support makes it possible for us 00:26:24.65\00:26:26.51 to share God's good news with the entire world. 00:26:26.55\00:26:29.78 Your tax-deductible gift 00:26:29.82\00:26:30.99 can be sent to the address on your screen 00:26:31.02\00:26:32.95 or through our website at ItIsWritten.com. 00:26:32.99\00:26:36.39 Thank you for your continued prayerful support. 00:26:36.42\00:26:39.09 Again, our toll-free number is 800-253-3000. 00:26:39.13\00:26:42.86 That's 800-253-3000. 00:26:42.90\00:26:45.57 And our web address, that's easy: 00:26:45.60\00:26:47.80 ItIsWritten.com. 00:26:47.84\00:26:49.77 >>John: I'm glad you joined me today. 00:26:50.64\00:26:51.64 Let's take a moment to pray together right now. 00:26:51.67\00:26:54.34 Our Father in heaven, we thank You today for Jesus, 00:26:54.38\00:26:57.88 Your Son, our Savior. 00:26:57.91\00:27:00.68 We thank You for You, our heavenly Father, 00:27:00.72\00:27:04.65 our perfect, unfailing, always patient, always wise Father 00:27:04.69\00:27:10.06 who knows what is best for us in every situation. 00:27:10.09\00:27:14.56 I pray for every father, 00:27:14.56\00:27:16.90 that You would bless the dads and the grandpas 00:27:16.93\00:27:19.30 and the great-grandpas to model faith in God, 00:27:19.33\00:27:23.61 to be patient and kind, 00:27:23.64\00:27:27.14 and to share Jesus and model Jesus as wisely as possible. 00:27:27.18\00:27:32.55 Lord, bless the fathers. 00:27:32.58\00:27:34.38 Even when we fail, we need Your help then. 00:27:34.42\00:27:37.62 And give us grace that we can point our children 00:27:37.65\00:27:40.19 to You and encourage in them faith in You. 00:27:40.22\00:27:43.63 Bless us now, we pray, and we thank You, 00:27:43.66\00:27:45.39 in Jesus' name, 00:27:45.43\00:27:46.76 amen. 00:27:46.80\00:27:48.53 Thank you so much for joining us today. 00:27:48.56\00:27:50.47 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time. 00:27:50.50\00:27:52.10 Until then, remember: 00:27:52.13\00:27:53.67 “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone 00:27:53.70\00:27:57.97 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'” 00:27:58.01\00:28:01.98 ¤[Theme music]¤ 00:28:02.01\00:28:07.02