>>John Bradshaw: This is It Is Written. 00:00:19.18\00:00:21.05 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me. 00:00:21.08\00:00:24.29 As you read the Bible, you read some of the great 00:00:24.32\00:00:26.82 stories of all of history. 00:00:26.86\00:00:29.42 Accounts that God has placed into the Bible for us to learn 00:00:29.46\00:00:33.09 not only their history, but to understand the heart of God, 00:00:33.13\00:00:35.93 the love of God, and the plan of salvation. 00:00:35.96\00:00:38.60 And as we read the Bible, we read simply some 00:00:38.63\00:00:42.24 mundane information about everyday life. 00:00:42.27\00:00:44.84 But, rightly understood, that mundane information 00:00:44.87\00:00:48.31 shines a bright light onto the lives of Bible characters, 00:00:48.34\00:00:52.48 the culture and the environments from which they sprang, 00:00:52.51\00:00:55.55 and help us understand in greater depth 00:00:55.58\00:00:58.92 the great themes of the Bible. 00:00:58.95\00:01:00.69 Well, today to that end, I have come to the 00:01:00.72\00:01:02.19 Lynn H. Wood Archaeological Museum 00:01:02.22\00:01:04.96 on the campus of Southern Adventist University, 00:01:04.99\00:01:06.93 and my special guest today is Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:01:06.96\00:01:09.36 a professor of Near Eastern studies and archaeology. 00:01:09.40\00:01:12.53 Dr. Hasel, thanks for joining me today. 00:01:12.57\00:01:14.27 >>Michael Hasel: It's great to be with you, John. 00:01:14.30\00:01:15.60 >>John: Now, I don't mean to be disparaging. 00:01:15.64\00:01:16.71 And I talk about mundane details about everyday life. 00:01:16.74\00:01:19.77 But we read about people who were shepherds. 00:01:19.81\00:01:22.91 They herded sheep. 00:01:22.94\00:01:24.28 We read about people who were farmers; 00:01:24.31\00:01:26.75 perhaps they grew crops. 00:01:26.78\00:01:29.35 What about some of these details can 00:01:29.38\00:01:32.22 help us really understand the Bible in a greater way, 00:01:32.25\00:01:35.92 and in a way that grows our faith in the Bible? 00:01:35.96\00:01:38.46 >>Michael: Well, to me this is what makes archaeology 00:01:38.49\00:01:41.23 such a relevant thing for the Bible. 00:01:41.26\00:01:42.93 We have these 66 books of the Bible 00:01:42.96\00:01:45.37 that give us this grand scope of history 00:01:45.40\00:01:47.57 going through from the beginning of earth's history 00:01:47.60\00:01:49.97 all the way to the end. 00:01:50.01\00:01:51.77 And yet, many times the details: 00:01:51.81\00:01:54.11 the details of how people lived, what they ate, 00:01:54.14\00:01:56.78 how they prepared their food, 00:01:56.81\00:01:58.08 what kind of houses they lived in, 00:01:58.11\00:01:59.51 all of those kinds of things, are mentioned in passing 00:01:59.55\00:02:02.32 but they're not really the main focus of what 00:02:02.35\00:02:04.35 the Bible writers are interested in. 00:02:04.39\00:02:06.52 One of the things that we have to remind ourselves is: 00:02:06.55\00:02:08.46 they lived in a very different kind of world 00:02:08.49\00:02:10.66 than many of us do, at least in the western world. 00:02:10.69\00:02:12.59 They were, they were agricultural people. 00:02:12.63\00:02:15.06 Agriculture was a major part of, of their way of life. 00:02:15.10\00:02:17.90 >>John: Let me ask you something about the, the, the signs, 00:02:17.93\00:02:20.30 the discipline of archaeology. You're an archaeologist. 00:02:20.34\00:02:23.47 You, you dig in Israel, you've dug in other places, 00:02:23.51\00:02:26.14 um, I'd like to think that most of your work is, is 00:02:26.17\00:02:32.38 unearthing temples, gates, great streets, cities, 00:02:32.41\00:02:39.65 but I think the reality for archaeologists 00:02:39.69\00:02:42.62 is that a lot of the time you're finding scraps of pottery, 00:02:42.66\00:02:46.39 and what sort of things might you find in the field 00:02:46.43\00:02:51.17 that somebody like me wouldn't realize is actually of great use 00:02:51.20\00:02:54.67 to an archaeologist? >>Michael: Right. 00:02:54.70\00:02:56.00 >>John: What would some of those things be? 00:02:56.04\00:02:57.34 >>Michael: Well, we find, we find, like you said, 00:02:57.37\00:02:58.84 we do find temples. We do find palaces. 00:02:58.87\00:03:00.74 Those are always the highlights. Whenever we find a big building, 00:03:00.78\00:03:03.75 it's, it's, it's a great thing. 00:03:03.78\00:03:05.01 But we're also interested in household archaeology; 00:03:05.05\00:03:07.58 how people lived in their everyday lives. 00:03:07.62\00:03:10.09 And, and we excavate those houses. 00:03:10.12\00:03:11.75 In the last several years I've been working 00:03:11.79\00:03:13.22 at a site called Lachish, or Lachish, 00:03:13.25\00:03:15.46 and we have been digging a row of houses right next 00:03:15.49\00:03:18.23 to the palace, or the major, uh, building of that time. 00:03:18.26\00:03:21.90 And, and, and the materials that we find in there 00:03:21.93\00:03:24.47 give us an insight into how people lived. 00:03:24.50\00:03:26.13 Let me give you a couple of examples. 00:03:26.17\00:03:27.50 >>John: Sure. 00:03:27.54\00:03:28.90 >>Michael: Um, 00:03:28.94\00:03:31.74 this is a very heavy, I'll let you hold it in a minute, 00:03:31.77\00:03:35.21 a very heavy piece of basalt. This is a volcanic rock. 00:03:35.24\00:03:38.01 It comes, actually, from the northern part of Israel, 00:03:38.05\00:03:40.08 um, up near the Sea of Galilee, which was a very volcanic area. 00:03:40.12\00:03:44.99 And this was what the ancients used, this heavy rock 00:03:45.02\00:03:48.59 with this coarse area, to, um, to grind their grain with. 00:03:48.62\00:03:53.66 And so, you know, you, you have a, you have, uh, 00:03:53.70\00:03:57.03 an under part here, and you're moving back and forth, 00:03:57.07\00:04:00.60 and this is what you use to make your flour 00:04:00.64\00:04:02.60 so that you can make your bread every day. 00:04:02.64\00:04:05.07 Um, just feel the weight of that. This is, 00:04:05.11\00:04:07.21 this is not something that's... >>John: Oh yeah. 00:04:07.24\00:04:08.68 Yeah, that's real heavy. >>Michael: ...that's light. 00:04:08.71\00:04:09.84 But because of the porous nature, 00:04:09.88\00:04:12.05 it really allows the grinding of those grains down 00:04:12.08\00:04:16.58 to something that, that can be edible 00:04:16.62\00:04:18.52 and can be put into bread. 00:04:18.55\00:04:20.12 >>John: So let me ask you a question. 00:04:20.16\00:04:21.36 This seems to answer the question-- 00:04:21.39\00:04:22.79 well, really, this, this is an 00:04:22.82\00:04:24.33 everyday stuff-of-life item... >>Michael: Right. 00:04:24.36\00:04:27.40 >>John: ...that you might find. 00:04:27.40\00:04:28.60 How do you know that that's what this was used for? 00:04:28.63\00:04:30.43 >>Michael: Well, you, you know this because of the shape of it. 00:04:30.47\00:04:33.03 It's been shaped, it's been, it's been carved 00:04:33.07\00:04:35.37 so that it nicely fits into a human hand like this. 00:04:35.40\00:04:38.31 And then you can see the bottom of it 00:04:38.34\00:04:40.44 is, is often very smooth from, 00:04:40.48\00:04:42.58 from that grinding that has taken place over time. 00:04:42.61\00:04:45.25 You see a rock like this and you know this is, this is manmade. 00:04:45.28\00:04:47.98 This is something that they've taken and shaped. 00:04:48.02\00:04:50.29 And that's when a rock, for an archaeologist, 00:04:50.32\00:04:52.35 becomes an artifact. >>John: Right. 00:04:52.39\00:04:53.69 >>Michael: Before that time, 00:04:53.72\00:04:54.79 it's simply a rock, and geologists study those. 00:04:54.82\00:04:57.83 But, but as soon as you have something 00:04:57.86\00:04:59.53 that's been formed by human hands and used as a tool, 00:04:59.56\00:05:02.43 which this was, 00:05:02.46\00:05:03.73 then it's something much more significant. 00:05:03.77\00:05:05.43 >>John: In endeavoring to understand the culture, 00:05:05.47\00:05:06.94 the life and the times of the people who lived way back then, 00:05:06.97\00:05:09.54 it seems to me that, 00:05:09.57\00:05:10.84 almost anything you find is valuable. 00:05:10.87\00:05:12.71 I know that we've had discussions before 00:05:12.74\00:05:14.11 and you've talked about how, how, how bones 00:05:14.14\00:05:16.85 that have been found, just bones, discarded bones, 00:05:16.88\00:05:19.98 told a lot and gave a lot of information... 00:05:20.02\00:05:22.68 >>Michael: Absolutely. 00:05:22.72\00:05:23.52 >>John: ...that became very useful. 00:05:23.55\00:05:24.65 >>Michael: Every bit of information that we can gather, 00:05:24.69\00:05:26.52 much of it is left behind, much of it is garbage 00:05:26.55\00:05:29.12 or things that people didn't want anymore. 00:05:29.16\00:05:31.36 But they all give us a glimpse into what people did, 00:05:31.39\00:05:33.96 how they lived back then. 00:05:34.00\00:05:35.46 The bones can give us information about the diet 00:05:35.50\00:05:38.40 of the ancients, uh, what kind of things they ate. Um... 00:05:38.43\00:05:42.47 >>John: And therefore who they were. 00:05:42.50\00:05:43.54 >>Michael: And who they were, 00:05:43.57\00:05:44.51 exactly, because... >>John: Jews would leave 00:05:44.54\00:05:45.34 different bones behind 00:05:45.37\00:05:46.44 than non-Jews, for instance. >>Michael: That's right. 00:05:46.47\00:05:47.71 We've, we've dug at a number of Judean sites where we have found 00:05:47.74\00:05:50.38 not a single pig bone after digging for seven seasons, 00:05:50.41\00:05:53.45 and, and digging 30 percent of the site. 00:05:53.48\00:05:55.58 Whereas the Philistines had 15 to 30 percent 00:05:55.62\00:05:58.25 of the remains that are found at Philistine sites are pig bones. 00:05:58.29\00:06:00.89 We also know today that the pigs that are in Israel, 00:06:00.92\00:06:03.53 there have been studies done of these ancient pigs 00:06:03.56\00:06:06.73 and their, their species, that they were coming 00:06:06.76\00:06:08.96 from Europe, and that fits very well with the Philistines, 00:06:09.00\00:06:12.80 who are also coming from Greece and from that area. 00:06:12.83\00:06:14.84 So they were introduced, not by the Israelites, not by locals, 00:06:14.87\00:06:18.61 but they were brought from the outside in. 00:06:18.64\00:06:20.34 >>John: Now, is there a story in the Bible 00:06:20.38\00:06:22.78 you think'd be great to look at? 00:06:22.81\00:06:24.51 Maybe it continues something relatively everyday, 00:06:24.55\00:06:28.85 sort of mundane, but, but, 00:06:28.88\00:06:31.45 in archaeology we've been able to learn more about these 00:06:31.49\00:06:35.29 cultural practices that shine a light on, 00:06:35.32\00:06:37.66 our understanding of the Word of God. 00:06:37.69\00:06:38.99 Where would we begin? 00:06:39.03\00:06:40.23 >>Michael: Well, there's many, many places we could go to, 00:06:40.26\00:06:42.20 but as I think about rural lifestyle 00:06:42.23\00:06:44.23 and especially agricultural lifestyle, 00:06:44.27\00:06:45.90 I can't help about, think about the story of Ruth and Boaz. 00:06:45.93\00:06:49.87 >>John: Okay. 00:06:49.90\00:06:51.07 >>Michael: And, uh, that, that great little book of Ruth 00:06:51.11\00:06:52.74 that's found, um, in the Old Testament 00:06:52.77\00:06:55.91 is a, is a, is a glimpse into the ancient world 00:06:55.94\00:06:59.21 and the period of the Judges, 00:06:59.25\00:07:01.02 and it gives us an understanding of what life was like. 00:07:01.05\00:07:03.59 Now, the setting is the city of Bethlehem, 00:07:03.62\00:07:06.62 the town of Bethlehem. 00:07:06.65\00:07:08.12 It's the same place, uh, that, that David would later be born. 00:07:08.16\00:07:11.76 In fact, Ruth is David's great-grandmother. 00:07:11.79\00:07:15.00 And then later on, of course, this is where Jesus 00:07:15.03\00:07:17.73 would be born as well. So this, that's the setting, 00:07:17.77\00:07:20.10 and it's still a rural community today. 00:07:20.14\00:07:21.80 You can still see the shepherds 00:07:21.84\00:07:23.51 out in the fields with their flocks, and 00:07:23.54\00:07:25.44 you can still see agriculture taking place there today. 00:07:25.47\00:07:27.91 >>John: Ruth, chapter 2, I'm going to read a little passage. 00:07:27.94\00:07:33.08 See if you can comment on this. 00:07:33.11\00:07:34.72 >>Michael: Sure. 00:07:34.75\00:07:35.68 >>John: Part of the book of Ruth, you know, 00:07:35.72\00:07:36.85 for those of us who have been raised in a modern world 00:07:36.89\00:07:39.25 and we've been raised in cities and so on, 00:07:39.29\00:07:41.22 it, it, it's hard to even make it compute. 00:07:41.26\00:07:43.93 You really must try to understand 00:07:43.96\00:07:46.03 the cultural milieu. >>Michael: Sure. 00:07:46.06\00:07:47.76 >>John: So let me read this. 00:07:47.83\00:07:48.66 Ruth, chapter 2, starting in verse 2. 00:07:48.70\00:07:50.17 "Ruth the Moabitess said unto Naomi, 00:07:50.20\00:07:53.40 Let me go now to the field, and glean ears of corn 00:07:53.44\00:07:56.47 after him in whose sight I shall find grace. 00:07:56.50\00:08:00.31 And she said unto her; Go, my daughter. 00:08:00.34\00:08:02.28 And she went, and came, 00:08:02.31\00:08:03.28 and gleaned in the field after the reapers." 00:08:03.31\00:08:06.11 Now, that's just an everyday sort of occurrence. 00:08:06.15\00:08:08.85 What does archaeology help us understand about that? 00:08:08.88\00:08:13.22 >>Michael: Well, I think to understand the, 00:08:13.25\00:08:17.23 the setting of all of this, 00:08:17.26\00:08:18.56 and to go back to that setting again, um, we have, 00:08:18.59\00:08:22.43 we have some, some grain here. 00:08:22.46\00:08:26.53 >>John: Now, that's not corn. 00:08:26.57\00:08:27.44 >>Michael: This is not corn, no. 00:08:27.47\00:08:28.60 >>John: And that's because? 00:08:28.64\00:08:29.80 >>Michael: Because the, the King James Version, of course, 00:08:29.84\00:08:32.44 was translated in 1611 in Britain, and Britain, 00:08:32.47\00:08:35.78 the term "corn" was the generic term that was used for "grain." 00:08:35.81\00:08:39.61 That's, that's, uh, it, it means "grain." 00:08:39.65\00:08:41.62 And if you know the Hebrew, it simply means "grain." 00:08:41.65\00:08:44.22 So they used "corn." 00:08:44.25\00:08:45.49 It's not maize, because maize is a New World product that, uh, 00:08:45.52\00:08:48.72 that comes from the Aztecs and the Mayans and so forth. 00:08:48.76\00:08:51.79 >>John: So this was wheat. 00:08:51.83\00:08:52.76 >>Michael: So this was wheat. 00:08:52.79\00:08:54.10 Barley and wheat, 00:08:54.13\00:08:55.23 they would, they would take in the fields. 00:08:55.26\00:08:56.77 And this is how it grew, as it grows today. 00:08:56.80\00:08:59.50 And, uh, they would, they would harvest it, they would cut it. 00:08:59.53\00:09:02.30 We find the sickles still in the field, uh, 00:09:02.34\00:09:04.71 not in the field, sometimes in the homes. 00:09:04.74\00:09:07.21 The sickles that were used for this, sometimes they're made, 00:09:07.24\00:09:10.28 uh, from actual iron blades in later periods. 00:09:10.31\00:09:12.91 In earlier periods they were actually made from stone blades 00:09:12.95\00:09:16.15 that were found in that context. So they would cut them down, 00:09:16.18\00:09:19.35 and then they would gather them up like this. 00:09:19.39\00:09:21.52 And then the process at that point would be to separate, 00:09:21.56\00:09:25.46 of course, the kernels from everything else, 00:09:25.49\00:09:28.40 and they would then throw, throw these up in the air 00:09:28.43\00:09:31.33 and allow the chaff, after, after they, they, uh, 00:09:31.37\00:09:34.47 would go over it with, with, with a heavy, 00:09:34.50\00:09:37.07 uh, piece of, of, uh, wood that had stone in it, 00:09:37.11\00:09:41.61 to kind of separate all this stuff out. 00:09:41.64\00:09:44.05 They would then throw it up in the air, 00:09:44.08\00:09:45.38 and the chaff would fly away, 00:09:45.41\00:09:47.45 and the kernels of grain would drop down, 00:09:47.48\00:09:49.48 and they would have a nice pile of, of whole kernels, 00:09:49.52\00:09:53.25 that then they would have to grind into flour. 00:09:53.29\00:09:55.52 >>John: Um, using one of those. 00:09:55.56\00:09:57.33 >>Michael: Using one of these grinders. 00:09:57.36\00:09:58.86 And I've, I have another one here I want to show you 00:09:58.89\00:10:00.96 that was found. >>John: How old is this? 00:10:01.00\00:10:02.30 >>Michael: This is probably dating to the eighth century. 00:10:02.33\00:10:05.27 Uh, this is the time period of Isaiah and, um, and Amos, 00:10:05.30\00:10:10.14 who were also, Amos came from very close by, 00:10:10.17\00:10:12.97 from Tekoa, very close by to Bethlehem. 00:10:13.01\00:10:16.28 So in this case, this is a much smaller 00:10:16.31\00:10:18.35 stone that was used to grind. 00:10:18.38\00:10:19.95 Sometimes these smaller, uh, items were used for, 00:10:19.98\00:10:23.35 not so much for grain, but for fruits and that kind of thing, 00:10:23.39\00:10:26.65 to, to, uh, to use that. 00:10:26.69\00:10:28.92 And you can see the beautiful decorations here. 00:10:28.96\00:10:30.79 This is the same material. It's made out of basalt. 00:10:30.83\00:10:32.66 It's not as coarse basalt as we had before. 00:10:32.69\00:10:35.53 But it's still the same material and weighs a lot. 00:10:35.56\00:10:38.27 >>John: And once again, 00:10:38.30\00:10:39.43 archaeology bringing into clearer focus 00:10:39.47\00:10:41.64 the ordinary lives, the daily details of those people 00:10:41.67\00:10:44.17 who lived so long ago, the people of whom we read, 00:10:44.21\00:10:47.11 about whom we study in the Word of God, 00:10:47.14\00:10:49.98 real people who lived real lives. 00:10:50.01\00:10:52.81 Back with more in just a moment. 00:10:52.85\00:10:54.42 ¤[Middle Eastern instrumental music]¤ 00:10:54.45\00:10:59.45 >>John: It's a subject that is talked about much, 00:11:01.16\00:11:02.92 studied often, and you want to know what the Bible says 00:11:02.96\00:11:06.39 about the temple in scripture. 00:11:06.43\00:11:08.40 To find out, receive today's free offer: 00:11:08.43\00:11:10.87 "Rebuilding the Temple." 00:11:10.90\00:11:12.70 Call 800-253-3000. 00:11:12.73\00:11:15.14 Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com. 00:11:15.17\00:11:19.47 What does the Bible say about the temple and its services? 00:11:19.51\00:11:22.94 Get today's free offer: "Rebuilding the Temple." 00:11:22.98\00:11:24.98 800-253-3000, 00:11:25.01\00:11:27.05 visit us at iiwoffer.com. 00:11:27.08\00:11:30.69 >>Announcer 1: Have you ever struggled 00:11:31.05\00:11:31.95 to say no to temptation? 00:11:31.99\00:11:33.59 You're not alone. 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Wood Archaeological Museum 00:12:08.59\00:12:11.76 in Collegedale, Tennessee. 00:12:11.79\00:12:14.13 Dr. Hasel, there's something I want to ask you about. 00:12:14.20\00:12:16.03 Here in 1 Samuel, chapter 2, I'm going to read in verse, uh, 19: 00:12:16.06\00:12:20.84 "Moreover, his mother made him a little coat, 00:12:20.87\00:12:24.01 and brought it to him from year to year, 00:12:24.04\00:12:26.01 when she came up with her husband 00:12:26.04\00:12:27.41 to offer the yearly sacrifice." 00:12:27.44\00:12:29.81 So Hannah was making Samuel a coat every year. 00:12:29.84\00:12:34.25 As he grew, he'd need a new one. What was involved in that? 00:12:34.28\00:12:38.29 >>Michael: Well, it was, it was a very involved process, 00:12:38.32\00:12:40.42 very different from us going to a store today 00:12:40.46\00:12:43.06 and simply buying something, buying a piece of clothing. 00:12:43.09\00:12:45.46 Uh, we have some interesting artifacts here. 00:12:45.49\00:12:48.83 The first thing, of course, that they had to do 00:12:48.86\00:12:51.60 was to get the wool from a sheep. 00:12:51.63\00:12:54.27 And, um, of course, 00:12:54.30\00:12:56.71 they didn't have to kill the sheep necessarily to do this. 00:12:56.74\00:12:58.91 They could shear the sheep and, and, and get the wool, 00:12:58.94\00:13:01.14 uh, in, in, in different times of the year. 00:13:01.18\00:13:04.01 And they would take that wool, of course, 00:13:04.05\00:13:06.38 and then once they had the wool, 00:13:06.41\00:13:08.42 they would take an artifact like this. 00:13:08.45\00:13:11.39 This is a, they could get any stick, 00:13:11.42\00:13:14.02 and they would put what is called a spindle whirl 00:13:14.06\00:13:16.46 on the bottom of it. 00:13:16.49\00:13:18.59 Spindle whirl, this doesn't really fit very well, 00:13:18.63\00:13:21.66 but normally it would fit very nicely. 00:13:21.70\00:13:23.33 And then they would spin that spindle whirl. 00:13:23.37\00:13:25.73 That the weight of this would allow them to spin it 00:13:25.77\00:13:27.77 very nicely around, and they could take strands of that wool 00:13:27.80\00:13:31.47 and make it into yarn, or make it into, uh, 00:13:31.51\00:13:36.71 material that they could use for weaving. 00:13:36.75\00:13:38.48 The next part of that process, after they were done 00:13:38.51\00:13:42.52 making the strands, was they would use a loom 00:13:42.55\00:13:45.52 that has, also, loom weights at the bottom. 00:13:45.55\00:13:48.72 These, uh, would, would, these weights at the bottom 00:13:48.76\00:13:52.83 would hold down the strands of cloth in the vertical position, 00:13:52.86\00:13:57.47 and then they would bring the other cloth across and slowly, 00:13:57.50\00:14:02.50 they would slowly begin to weave that back and forth. 00:14:02.54\00:14:06.14 And in time this all would create either a nice new carpet, 00:14:06.17\00:14:12.55 a part of a tent, or, uh, in the case of Samuel, his mother, 00:14:12.58\00:14:17.59 uh, she could construct a very nice, 00:14:17.62\00:14:19.55 or weave a very nice piece of clothing for him every year. 00:14:19.59\00:14:22.92 >>John: Now, from an archaeological perspective, 00:14:22.96\00:14:24.66 I doubt very much that too many full looms have ever been, 00:14:24.69\00:14:27.13 uh, excavated. 00:14:27.13\00:14:28.43 So what do archaeologists find that talks of this? 00:14:28.46\00:14:31.63 >>Michael: In this, uh, particular case what we find 00:14:31.67\00:14:34.80 in the heartland of Israel in not-so-dry regions is, 00:14:34.84\00:14:39.21 uh, we find the actual loom weights. 00:14:39.24\00:14:41.84 Uh, this last summer we were excavating a series of houses, 00:14:41.88\00:14:44.58 and we found in one area, in one house, 00:14:44.61\00:14:47.52 we found 58 of these loom weights. 00:14:47.55\00:14:50.45 So we knew there was a loom there at some time. 00:14:50.49\00:14:52.49 We didn't find any cloth. 00:14:52.52\00:14:54.09 The, uh, the wood of the loom had already 00:14:54.12\00:14:56.96 disintegrated over the last, uh, it was about 00:14:56.99\00:14:59.76 the, the, the room dated to 2700 B.C. 00:14:59.79\00:15:03.00 uh, about 2,700 years ago, about 700 B.C. 00:15:03.03\00:15:05.77 And so you have, though, the remnants of what could survive. 00:15:05.80\00:15:09.90 And these loom weights, uh, they're made out of, uh, clay, 00:15:09.94\00:15:13.88 they would be baked, uh, in the destruction debris 00:15:13.91\00:15:16.98 and would be preserved as a result of that. 00:15:17.01\00:15:18.75 >>John: So who would have made this? 00:15:18.78\00:15:20.08 Would it have been Hannah herself? 00:15:20.12\00:15:22.48 Would it have been a servant? 00:15:22.52\00:15:23.59 Who would use a loom like that? 00:15:23.62\00:15:25.19 >>Michael: Well, it probably would have been Hannah herself 00:15:25.22\00:15:28.52 from the context we have in the biblical passage. 00:15:28.56\00:15:30.53 But we really don't know for certain. 00:15:30.56\00:15:32.49 Um, the womenfolk were normally the ones that would do 00:15:32.53\00:15:35.00 kind of the household activities of this type. 00:15:35.03\00:15:37.70 And, uh, Hannah very well may have been the person to do that. 00:15:37.73\00:15:41.60 >>John: Which is interesting you say the women, 00:15:41.64\00:15:43.74 because then we have the story of Joseph's coat, 00:15:43.77\00:15:47.98 who it appears, uh, that was made by his father. 00:15:48.01\00:15:51.45 And he would have used something much like this. 00:15:51.48\00:15:53.58 >>Michael: Oh, yes, 00:15:53.62\00:15:54.68 he would have used something very similar to this. 00:15:54.72\00:15:56.32 Of course, Joseph lived about 00:15:56.35\00:15:57.42 700 years before the time of Samuel, maybe 750 years. 00:15:57.45\00:16:01.62 So again, this is a, a kind of lifestyle, 00:16:01.66\00:16:05.83 a kind of way of life that would have gone 00:16:05.86\00:16:08.63 for hundreds of years through the ancient Near East. 00:16:08.66\00:16:10.70 And it's interesting, with Joseph, we have, uh, we have a, 00:16:10.73\00:16:13.87 uh, tomb painting called the Beni Hasan tomb painting, 00:16:13.90\00:16:16.84 which shows Asiatics coming to trade in Egypt. 00:16:16.87\00:16:20.41 And they're dressed in, in, in very colorful clothing, 00:16:20.44\00:16:24.11 which seems to mirror the kind of clothing that Joseph was 00:16:24.15\00:16:27.55 given by his father. So it's another one of those 00:16:27.58\00:16:29.65 corroborating facts that we have from, from history. 00:16:29.68\00:16:32.22 >>John: Magnificent. Thanks for that. 00:16:32.25\00:16:34.09 The Bible, a living book, a dynamic book. 00:16:34.12\00:16:37.06 Archaeology bringing to life the times, the daily lives, 00:16:37.09\00:16:41.86 the personalities of the Word of God. 00:16:41.90\00:16:44.80 Don't go away. 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Now, that's faith. 00:18:04.75\00:18:07.45 Have that sort of real faith today. 00:18:07.48\00:18:09.38 Believe that when Jesus speaks, and He speaks in the Bible, 00:18:09.42\00:18:13.92 you can expect what He says to happen. 00:18:13.96\00:18:17.56 I'm John Bradshaw for It Is Written. 00:18:17.59\00:18:19.69 Let's live today by every word. 00:18:19.73\00:18:22.36 ¤[Middle Eastern instrumental music]¤ 00:18:25.67\00:18:30.67 >>John: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written, 00:18:34.68\00:18:36.95 where my guest is archaeologist Dr. Michael Hasel. 00:18:36.98\00:18:41.28 Dr. Hasel, today we're talking about archaeology 00:18:41.32\00:18:43.95 and everyday life in the times of the Bible. 00:18:43.99\00:18:46.82 And if you'll allow me, there's a question I want to put to you, 00:18:46.86\00:18:49.09 because this has intrigued me. 00:18:49.12\00:18:51.26 I'll read the passage; you'll know why. 00:18:51.29\00:18:53.09 2 Kings, chapter 4, starting in verse 8: 00:18:53.13\00:18:56.67 "And it fell on a day, that Elisha passed to Shunem, 00:18:56.70\00:19:00.37 where was a great woman; 00:19:00.40\00:19:02.10 and she constrained him to eat bread. 00:19:02.14\00:19:03.97 And so it was, that as oft as he passed by, 00:19:04.01\00:19:06.61 he turned in there to eat bread. And she said to her husband, 00:19:06.64\00:19:10.68 Behold now, I perceive that this is an holy man of God, 00:19:10.71\00:19:13.11 which passes us by continually. 00:19:13.15\00:19:15.25 Let us make a little chamber, I pray thee, on the wall; 00:19:15.28\00:19:18.99 and let us set him there a bed, and a table, and a stool, 00:19:19.02\00:19:21.36 and a candlestick: and it shall be, when he comes to us, 00:19:21.39\00:19:24.33 that he shall turn in there." 00:19:24.36\00:19:25.69 What were houses like back then 00:19:25.73\00:19:28.06 that this family could just decide to make him 00:19:28.10\00:19:30.77 a chamber? Whether that's a room or a lean-to, 00:19:30.80\00:19:34.07 I don't quite know. 00:19:34.10\00:19:35.70 Tell me about what houses were like 00:19:35.74\00:19:37.51 back in the time of the prophets. 00:19:37.54\00:19:40.18 >>Michael: It's very interesting. 00:19:40.21\00:19:41.74 The way houses were built is a very typical style 00:19:41.78\00:19:45.65 for Israelites. 00:19:45.68\00:19:46.98 It's, uh, it's a different style than you have 00:19:47.02\00:19:49.25 in other surrounding cultures. 00:19:49.28\00:19:50.69 It's not a Canaanite house; it's not an Egyptian house; 00:19:50.72\00:19:53.19 it's not a, the Israelite house was a very, very 00:19:53.22\00:19:56.42 singular type of architecture. 00:19:56.46\00:19:58.93 And there's been a lot of discussion 00:19:58.96\00:20:00.96 in the scholarly community about why they had these kind of, 00:20:01.00\00:20:04.57 what we call four-room houses or pillared houses. 00:20:04.60\00:20:07.90 Uh, normally it would have four different rooms, 00:20:07.94\00:20:10.44 often in the basement, or not the basement, 00:20:10.47\00:20:13.11 but the first floor you would have cattle or sheep and goats. 00:20:13.14\00:20:17.41 It would be kind of like a barn. 00:20:17.45\00:20:19.91 Um, in the back areas you would have storage areas, 00:20:19.95\00:20:22.85 uh, and so forth. 00:20:22.88\00:20:24.25 And then you'd have an upper floor as well. 00:20:24.29\00:20:25.99 So whether this was something that was added 00:20:26.02\00:20:28.19 as an upper floor, um, 00:20:28.22\00:20:29.96 or whether this was added onto, I, I think maybe 00:20:29.99\00:20:32.83 what the Bible's talking about, 00:20:32.86\00:20:34.40 knowing the architecture of that time, 00:20:34.46\00:20:35.93 is that maybe they added a room above, perhaps, for him. 00:20:35.96\00:20:40.07 Uh, these houses were occupied by, 00:20:40.10\00:20:43.10 a nuclear family but also by extended family. 00:20:43.14\00:20:45.97 >>John: So how many people would you have typically in a home? 00:20:46.01\00:20:47.91 >>Michael: It depended, but you could have as many as 00:20:47.94\00:20:50.15 10 to 15 people in a home of 900 to 1,000, 00:20:50.18\00:20:54.62 maybe 1,200 square feet. 00:20:54.65\00:20:55.98 >>John: That's not real big to have 10 or 15 people. 00:20:56.02\00:20:59.12 >>Michael: No, it's not. 00:20:59.15\00:21:00.06 >>John: Now, let me ask you this, then: 00:21:00.09\00:21:01.76 Did, was there a, 00:21:01.79\00:21:03.96 did these homes differ based on the standing of the individual? 00:21:03.99\00:21:09.13 Was it common to find humble dwelling for the humble folks, 00:21:09.16\00:21:12.87 much larger place, did it work like that? 00:21:12.90\00:21:15.70 >>Michael: There was some of that as well, yes. 00:21:15.74\00:21:17.97 And depending on also where in the city it was located, 00:21:18.01\00:21:20.51 if it was a city house or if it was out in the country. 00:21:20.54\00:21:22.84 But the style was very much the same, many times, 00:21:22.88\00:21:26.08 in terms of those four rooms. 00:21:26.11\00:21:27.92 Um, and some of the rooms were simply divided by pillars. 00:21:27.95\00:21:30.59 It wasn't really divided by a wall, let's say. 00:21:30.62\00:21:34.16 The material that was used for them was quite, quite extensive. 00:21:34.19\00:21:37.16 >>John: Yeah, what, what were they, what were they built from? 00:21:37.19\00:21:39.03 >>Michael: They were built from stone primarily, 00:21:39.06\00:21:41.66 that were then plastered on the outside, or even, um, 00:21:41.70\00:21:45.67 either with mud, or with actual plaster lime from, from, 00:21:45.70\00:21:49.47 uh, from limestone, limestone plaster. 00:21:49.50\00:21:52.61 And to construct a house that had 00:21:52.64\00:21:54.94 those four rooms at the bottom, 00:21:54.98\00:21:56.28 plus a roof area with perhaps rooms above, 00:21:56.31\00:21:59.25 you're talking about a construction that would involve 00:21:59.28\00:22:02.38 470 tons of material. 00:22:02.42\00:22:05.05 >>John: That's a heavy house. 00:22:05.09\00:22:06.69 >>Michael: This is a heavy house. 00:22:06.72\00:22:07.92 This is not the kind of houses we build here in North America. 00:22:07.96\00:22:10.69 We're just framing up 2x4s or 2x6s, 00:22:10.73\00:22:13.70 and then putting drywall on it. 00:22:13.73\00:22:15.63 This was solid, solid houses. 00:22:15.66\00:22:17.80 And we find stairs going up to what 00:22:17.83\00:22:21.04 presumably would be a second floor. 00:22:21.07\00:22:22.37 Many times we only find the, 00:22:22.40\00:22:24.64 the, um, the foundations of these homes. 00:22:24.67\00:22:27.44 Uh, but we find the staircases that go up to them. 00:22:27.48\00:22:30.15 We find collapsed ceilings, and we find the materials that were, 00:22:30.18\00:22:32.81 that were there. 00:22:32.85\00:22:33.55 So we have huge storage jars, 00:22:33.58\00:22:35.82 many times they're lined up in these houses, 00:22:35.85\00:22:37.75 that would have had olive oil in them, 00:22:37.79\00:22:39.62 or, or perhaps, uh, uh, grape juice 00:22:39.65\00:22:42.16 or wine or something of that nature. 00:22:42.19\00:22:43.63 So we have, we have, again, uh, done a lot of analysis and, 00:22:43.66\00:22:48.66 and looked at the way people lived, and they had, 00:22:48.70\00:22:51.60 they had comfortable homes. 00:22:51.63\00:22:52.83 >>John: Now, these jars that are discovered in archaeological 00:22:52.87\00:22:55.97 ruins, I understand you found some of those, 00:22:56.00\00:22:58.44 and these are genuine ancient, what were they used for? 00:22:58.47\00:23:03.08 >>Michael: Well, they were used to, uh, 00:23:03.11\00:23:04.81 contain all kinds of things, uh, often water or oil. 00:23:04.85\00:23:11.45 Olive oil, of course, was produced 00:23:11.49\00:23:13.19 very extensively in the Mediterranean world, 00:23:13.22\00:23:15.59 still is today. 00:23:15.62\00:23:16.79 >>John: This one here, how old is this, and what is this? 00:23:16.83\00:23:18.76 >>Michael: This, this is dating to about the eighth century, 00:23:18.79\00:23:20.26 about 750 B.C. or so. 00:23:20.30\00:23:22.63 So this would date to the time of Isaiah and Amos and, 00:23:22.66\00:23:25.83 and Hezekiah the king, 00:23:25.87\00:23:27.34 during Sennacherib's famous campaign that he took, 00:23:27.37\00:23:29.67 the Assyrian king. 00:23:29.70\00:23:31.04 And I love this, this particular artifact, 00:23:31.07\00:23:33.07 because it has a spout over here on this side. 00:23:33.11\00:23:35.98 This is a spout where you can actually pour out material. 00:23:36.01\00:23:39.65 Uh, and it has, it's designed in such a way where you can put 00:23:39.68\00:23:42.58 a little tiny dipper juglet like this inside the spout, 00:23:42.62\00:23:46.09 and just kind of, it hangs out there as kind of a little 00:23:46.12\00:23:49.12 resting place for it. 00:23:49.16\00:23:50.59 This is a little measuring cup. 00:23:50.63\00:23:52.49 So if you have a large jar, 00:23:52.53\00:23:54.20 sometimes there's jars even larger than this, 00:23:54.20\00:23:55.96 rather than picking up the whole thing 00:23:56.00\00:23:57.97 and accidentally spilling olive oil in your fire and creating, 00:23:58.00\00:24:01.40 burning the whole city down, 00:24:01.44\00:24:02.87 or something like that, you can just take your little dipper jar 00:24:02.90\00:24:05.81 dip it in, maybe on a string or something, 00:24:05.84\00:24:08.01 dip it in, bring out a little bit, 00:24:08.04\00:24:10.15 and this just take it, take it, 00:24:10.18\00:24:12.05 a little bit, this little dipper juglet, and do that. 00:24:12.08\00:24:15.22 So this is a very typical Israelite artifact 00:24:15.25\00:24:18.89 that we find from that time period. 00:24:18.92\00:24:20.82 And it, it just is an amazing piece. 00:24:20.86\00:24:24.09 We find the dipper juglet separately. 00:24:24.13\00:24:25.76 Uh, two summers ago we actually found them together, 00:24:25.79\00:24:29.16 very much like this. They were crushed, 00:24:29.20\00:24:31.17 but perfectly restorable, uh, 00:24:31.20\00:24:33.13 on the level that Sennacherib destroyed. 00:24:33.17\00:24:36.17 >>John: When you find something like this, for me, 00:24:36.20\00:24:38.94 for the non-archaeologist, 00:24:38.97\00:24:40.48 it just kind of lights me up and brings the Bible to life. 00:24:40.51\00:24:44.18 This is really real, 00:24:44.21\00:24:45.31 and these were real people living real lives. 00:24:45.35\00:24:46.88 What did it do for you after you've been digging in the 00:24:46.92\00:24:50.49 Middle East for years and years? 00:24:50.52\00:24:51.85 >>Michael: I still get excited. I still get excited. 00:24:51.89\00:24:54.59 Somebody made this 2,700 years ago. 00:24:54.62\00:24:57.23 Somebody, uh, cooked with it, prepared for their families. 00:24:57.26\00:25:01.83 Um, there were children running around in the house. 00:25:01.86\00:25:04.13 Uh, you know, it, it, it really to me brings the Bible to life 00:25:04.17\00:25:08.17 in an incredible way, 00:25:08.20\00:25:10.51 in, in a sense that, you know, these were, like you said, 00:25:10.54\00:25:14.68 real people, and, uh, we can touch and taste and feel 00:25:14.71\00:25:20.52 the material that they lived with. 00:25:20.55\00:25:22.75 >>John: Archaeology bringing to life the Bible. 00:25:22.78\00:25:26.25 My encouragement to you is that the Bible comes alive 00:25:26.29\00:25:29.12 in your life. 00:25:29.16\00:25:30.69 Archaeology isn't given to us simply so that we can see 00:25:30.73\00:25:33.13 how people lived 2,800 or more or less years ago, 00:25:33.16\00:25:37.50 but so that the Bible can come to life, be real, be accessible. 00:25:37.53\00:25:42.00 And it's real when it's read and believed and leaned upon. 00:25:42.04\00:25:48.31 There were Bible figures or people living among them, 00:25:48.34\00:25:52.21 handling these very artifacts. 00:25:52.25\00:25:54.18 Today, we can handle the Word of God, 00:25:54.22\00:25:57.09 and it can be alive and real for us. 00:25:57.12\00:25:59.72 ¤[Middle Eastern instrumental music]¤ 00:25:59.75\00:26:05.86 >>John: It's a subject that is talked about much, 00:26:06.56\00:26:08.33 studied often, and you want to know what the Bible says 00:26:08.36\00:26:11.83 about the temple in Scripture. 00:26:11.87\00:26:13.94 To find out, receive today's free offer: 00:26:13.97\00:26:16.47 "Rebuilding the Temple." 00:26:16.50\00:26:18.11 Call 800-253-3000. 00:26:18.14\00:26:20.64 Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com. 00:26:20.68\00:26:24.98 What does the Bible say about the temple and its services? 00:26:25.01\00:26:28.45 Get today's free offer: "Rebuilding the Temple." 00:26:28.48\00:26:30.32 800-253-3000, 00:26:30.35\00:26:32.52 visit us at iiwoffer.com. 00:26:32.55\00:26:36.26 >>John: Thank you for remembering that It Is Written 00:26:36.36\00:26:38.16 exists because of the kindness of people just like you. 00:26:38.19\00:26:41.76 To support this international, life-changing ministry, 00:26:41.80\00:26:44.90 please call us now at 800-253-3000. 00:26:44.93\00:26:49.10 You can send your tax-deductible gift 00:26:49.14\00:26:50.61 to the address on your screen. 00:26:50.64\00:26:52.11 Or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 00:26:52.14\00:26:55.94 Thank you for your prayers and for your financial support. 00:26:55.98\00:26:58.81 Our number again is 800-253-3000, 00:26:58.85\00:27:03.02 or you could visit us online at 00:27:03.05\00:27:04.72 itiswritten.com. 00:27:04.75\00:27:06.29 >>John: Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:27:06.82\00:27:07.99 thank you so much for joining me today on It Is Written. 00:27:08.02\00:27:09.72 >>Michael: It's a privilege. 00:27:09.76\00:27:10.79 >>John: It's a joy to see the Bible come to life. 00:27:10.83\00:27:13.09 It really is. Let's pray together. 00:27:13.13\00:27:15.50 Our Father in heaven, 00:27:15.53\00:27:16.50 we thank You today that Your word is living, 00:27:16.53\00:27:20.04 it's dynamic, it, it is alive. 00:27:20.07\00:27:23.27 And I pray that it would be alive in our lives. 00:27:23.30\00:27:26.17 There is somebody right now participating in this prayer 00:27:26.21\00:27:30.95 who needs the touch of God in her or his life, 00:27:30.98\00:27:34.55 who needs the power of Your Word to flow through that life 00:27:34.58\00:27:38.85 and that experience. 00:27:38.89\00:27:40.96 We thank You for a Savior who lived, who breathed, 00:27:40.99\00:27:44.79 who died, and who is soon to return to this earth 00:27:44.83\00:27:48.13 and take us home. 00:27:48.16\00:27:49.73 Let that day come soon, we pray, in Jesus' name, 00:27:49.76\00:27:53.94 amen. 00:27:53.97\00:27:56.64 Thanks so much for joining us today. 00:27:56.67\00:27:58.14 I look forward to seeing you again next time. 00:27:58.17\00:28:00.21 Until then, remember: 00:28:00.24\00:28:02.24 "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, 00:28:02.28\00:28:06.85 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" 00:28:06.88\00:28:10.92 ¤[Theme music]¤ 00:28:10.95\00:28:15.62