JB: This is It Is Written. I'm John Bradshaw, 00:00:19.51\00:00:22.35 thanks for joining me. When it comes to matters 00:00:22.35\00:00:25.32 of faith, matters of the Bible, faith in God is, 00:00:25.32\00:00:28.76 by very definition, a rather intellectual exercise, 00:00:28.76\00:00:32.59 that is to say, what does the Bible say? 00:00:32.59\00:00:36.50 And beyond that, what does the Bible mean? 00:00:36.50\00:00:39.67 However, faith in God is faith in God. 00:00:39.67\00:00:43.77 It's not just about a belief system. 00:00:43.77\00:00:46.51 A person who has faith in God enters into a relationship 00:00:46.51\00:00:50.01 with an individual. So far from simply the intellect 00:00:50.01\00:00:54.02 being involved, the emotions are and must be involved when 00:00:54.02\00:00:59.52 it comes to matters of faith. How can a person be emotionally 00:00:59.52\00:01:04.83 healthy, and how does that, or even does that, affect 00:01:04.83\00:01:08.66 our relationship with God? We're going to find that out 00:01:08.66\00:01:11.00 today, because my guest, my special guest, 00:01:11.00\00:01:13.34 is Dr. Neil Nedley, the president of 00:01:13.34\00:01:16.34 Nedley Health Solutions. Dr. Nedley, thanks for being 00:01:16.34\00:01:19.57 here, welcome to It Is Written. NN: Thank you. 00:01:19.57\00:01:21.84 Great to be here, John. JB: Intelligence. 00:01:21.84\00:01:24.48 NN: Yes. JB: It's not just about the 00:01:24.48\00:01:26.51 mind, it's about the emotions, because I'm hearing more 00:01:26.51\00:01:29.52 and more, and I'm hearing quite a bit of it from you, 00:01:29.52\00:01:32.35 about emotional intelligence. NN: Yes. 00:01:32.35\00:01:36.16 JB: Now, what's that? NN: Emotional intelligence 00:01:36.16\00:01:38.33 is really five things. Knowing our emotions, 00:01:38.33\00:01:42.20 in other words, being aware of what we are feeling 00:01:42.20\00:01:46.10 and why, precisely, why we're feeling that way. 00:01:46.10\00:01:49.44 Secondly, managing our emotions. People with low emotional 00:01:49.44\00:01:54.71 intelligence are managed by their emotions. 00:01:54.71\00:01:57.91 People with high emotional intelligence still 00:01:57.91\00:02:00.42 have emotions, but they are managing those emotions. 00:02:00.42\00:02:03.69 JB: That's a really key point, that, isn't it? 00:02:03.69\00:02:06.02 NN: It is. JB: Not being controlled by, 00:02:06.02\00:02:07.92 but controlling your emotion. NN: Exactly. And controlling 00:02:07.92\00:02:10.26 your emotions is also vital for part of the psychological 00:02:10.26\00:02:14.76 good life that's been emerging in a lot of studies, 00:02:14.76\00:02:17.37 called self-control. Those who have self-control 00:02:17.37\00:02:22.17 actually psychologically are far better off than those who don't. 00:02:22.17\00:02:26.68 The key element of that is managing our emotions. 00:02:26.68\00:02:29.74 That's part of self-control. JB: And what are the 00:02:29.74\00:02:32.01 other three? NN: The third one is recognizing 00:02:32.01\00:02:34.18 emotions in others and really having some empathy 00:02:34.18\00:02:37.85 towards others, which is part of recognizing emotions in others. 00:02:37.85\00:02:41.42 Fourth is managing relationships with others. 00:02:41.42\00:02:44.69 And then five, in the word "emotion" is the word "motion." 00:02:44.69\00:02:49.56 And so the fifth part of emotional intelligence 00:02:49.56\00:02:52.17 is motivating yourself to achieve your goals. 00:02:52.17\00:02:54.90 JB: What do we talk about when we talk about our emotions? 00:02:54.90\00:02:57.07 They are joy, sadness, you tell me. 00:02:57.07\00:03:00.64 NN: Sure. Actually, calm is an emotion too. 00:03:00.64\00:03:02.98 Sometimes we think calm is not feeling. But no, 00:03:02.98\00:03:05.65 the emotion of feeling calm is actually normally a good thing. 00:03:05.65\00:03:09.45 Bitterness, sadness, disappointment. 00:03:09.45\00:03:13.32 JB: Okay. So why is emotional intelligence 00:03:13.32\00:03:18.89 important? NN: Well, IQ is our capacity 00:03:18.89\00:03:21.66 to learn, retain, and apply knowledge. 00:03:21.66\00:03:24.63 And emotional intelligence is being able to manage our 00:03:24.63\00:03:29.87 emotions, to know them, manage our relationships with others, 00:03:29.87\00:03:33.84 and proper motivation. JB: Do we need to make 00:03:33.84\00:03:36.04 a big deal out of this, or can't people just be people? 00:03:36.04\00:03:38.91 NN: Oh, people can be people. I'm not saying that we shouldn't 00:03:38.91\00:03:42.48 be ourselves and be people. But we should, actually, 00:03:42.48\00:03:45.95 be balanced people and in control of ourself. 00:03:45.95\00:03:49.02 JB: It's not being managed by your emotions 00:03:49.02\00:03:51.53 but managing your emotions. NN: Exactly. We all go through 00:03:51.53\00:03:55.16 nuisances of life. Studies show that successful 00:03:55.16\00:03:58.83 and enjoyable living is much more connected 00:03:58.83\00:04:01.64 to emotional intelligence than general intelligence. 00:04:01.64\00:04:04.51 JB: Okay, that's key. You can be someone who's 00:04:04.51\00:04:06.51 emotionally intelligent, but you can lose your grip. 00:04:06.51\00:04:09.68 NN: You can lose your grip. JB: With bad consequences. 00:04:09.68\00:04:11.85 NN: And what is ideal, I mean, not only is it ideal, but it 00:04:11.85\00:04:14.48 really ramps it up, is when we have comprehensive emotional 00:04:14.48\00:04:18.65 intelligence all the time. And it's possible. 00:04:18.65\00:04:22.32 Not only is it possible; it is something that every human being 00:04:22.32\00:04:26.49 can actually achieve. JB: How do you take this thing 00:04:26.49\00:04:29.96 under, get your emotions under control and function 00:04:29.96\00:04:33.77 really positively? NN: There's two main ways. 00:04:33.77\00:04:36.84 One of the ways that often, you know, studies focus in onto 00:04:36.84\00:04:41.41 is what we're putting into our body and what 00:04:41.41\00:04:44.65 we're doing with our body. So, for instance, if you're on 00:04:44.65\00:04:47.25 a regular exercise program, it helps your emotional 00:04:47.25\00:04:50.32 intelligence. If you're getting adequate sleep, it helps 00:04:50.32\00:04:53.12 your emotional intelligence. If you're eating 00:04:53.12\00:04:55.39 the right foods, it helps the emotional intelligence. 00:04:55.39\00:04:58.26 So those are important, but, it turns out, 00:04:58.26\00:05:00.96 not the most important. As important as those are, 00:05:00.96\00:05:04.57 the most important thing affecting our emotional 00:05:04.57\00:05:07.87 intelligence is our beliefs, our evaluation of events, 00:05:07.87\00:05:13.24 the way we think about problems, and our silent self-talk. 00:05:13.24\00:05:19.45 This is the moment-by-moment messages we give ourself. 00:05:19.45\00:05:24.55 That is the most crucial aspect to emotional intelligence. 00:05:24.55\00:05:28.19 JB: But you can eat your way to healthier emotions? 00:05:28.19\00:05:31.43 NN: A few years ago there was a businessman who won the contract 00:05:31.43\00:05:35.83 for the California prisons. The first thing he did was 00:05:35.83\00:05:40.50 he had a nutritionist interview the prisoners coming in 00:05:40.50\00:05:44.14 to the California state prison. And the nutritionist told them 00:05:44.14\00:05:49.08 what they were eating could actually have an effect 00:05:49.08\00:05:51.65 on their emotions and emotional intelligence. 00:05:51.65\00:05:54.42 And it turns out that the diet that she was recommending-- 00:05:54.42\00:05:57.82 and, of course, there's scientific backing for this-- 00:05:57.82\00:05:59.75 was a plant-based diet. And some prisoners thought 00:05:59.75\00:06:03.53 it was punishment enough to be in prison, but to be on a 00:06:03.53\00:06:06.43 plant-based diet would be cruel and unusual punishment, so they 00:06:06.43\00:06:09.60 chose the typical American diet. But it turns out 00:06:09.60\00:06:13.50 over 90% of the prisoners chose the plant-based diet, 00:06:13.50\00:06:18.44 meaning that she was a good educator, and they were 00:06:18.44\00:06:21.44 motivated to try this diet. Within a few weeks, they 00:06:21.44\00:06:27.02 mentioned how, you know, for anyone who's been in a prison, 00:06:27.02\00:06:29.98 there are stressful things that happen in that prison, 00:06:29.98\00:06:32.09 from the other prisoners and from the guards and herding 00:06:32.09\00:06:34.69 the prisoners around, and... lot of stressful things. 00:06:34.69\00:06:37.43 But they noticed that they were able to manage their emotions, 00:06:37.43\00:06:40.96 and they were able to talk to the security guard, even if they 00:06:40.96\00:06:43.13 were upset, they were able to talk to him in measured tones, 00:06:43.13\00:06:45.93 and the security guard actually listened to them. 00:06:45.93\00:06:48.50 And they said, "You know what, I think if I were eating 00:06:48.50\00:06:50.81 like this on the outside, I probably never would have 00:06:50.81\00:06:53.68 ended up in there." The people that got out-- 00:06:53.68\00:06:56.08 it was actually a correctional facility. 00:06:56.08\00:06:59.68 And so they were corrected, to a large part, 00:06:59.68\00:07:02.65 in regards to what they were putting into their bodies. 00:07:02.65\00:07:04.72 So it can have a crucial impact. JB: Controlling your emotions, 00:07:04.72\00:07:07.99 you can control your emotions and be emotionally intelligent. 00:07:07.99\00:07:13.53 And that's gonna have a powerful impact 00:07:13.53\00:07:15.63 on your relationship with God. Don't go away. We'll have more 00:07:15.63\00:07:18.57 in just a moment. ¤[chime]¤ 00:07:18.57\00:07:22.34 JB: Christianity builds its hope of forgiveness and eternal life 00:07:23.74\00:07:26.81 on a relationship. It's kind of sad, then, 00:07:26.81\00:07:29.84 that we find ourselves rushing through life, checking the news 00:07:29.84\00:07:32.58 or social media while we're inhaling our breakfast. 00:07:32.58\00:07:34.92 We often don't have time for God. 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I'm being joined by 00:08:16.52\00:08:18.86 Dr. Neil Nedley, the president of Nedley Health Solutions, 00:08:18.86\00:08:21.86 and today we're discussing emotional intelligence. 00:08:21.86\00:08:26.27 We hear about IQ, but what about EQ? 00:08:26.27\00:08:31.17 We're learning that a person can be in control of their emotions 00:08:31.17\00:08:36.08 rather than be controlled by their emotions. And, Dr. Nedley, 00:08:36.08\00:08:40.32 there are so many people who loathe themselves 00:08:40.32\00:08:42.82 because they lose their temper, or there are people 00:08:42.82\00:08:45.52 who wish that they could be up because they continually 00:08:45.52\00:08:47.82 seem to be in a funk. And I know that right now lights 00:08:47.82\00:08:51.09 are going on, and people are saying, "You mean I don't have 00:08:51.09\00:08:53.43 to be a slave to my emotions?" NN: No, absolutely not. 00:08:53.43\00:08:56.33 In fact, we have the evidence. In just 10 days--now, 00:08:56.33\00:09:00.47 it's a comprehensive program, but, you know, for instance, 00:09:00.47\00:09:03.61 right now even as we're speaking here, I'm running 00:09:03.61\00:09:06.21 a 10-day program for those with severe depression 00:09:06.21\00:09:09.28 and anxiety. One of the tests they take is 00:09:09.28\00:09:11.98 an emotional intelligence test when they come in. 00:09:11.98\00:09:14.95 And when they leave, they'll take it again, 10 days later. 00:09:14.95\00:09:18.19 Our program enhances the frontal lobe, analyzes the way they 00:09:18.19\00:09:23.49 think, those sorts of things. It's not specifically for EQ, 00:09:23.49\00:09:27.93 but what happens in the average mentally ill individual 00:09:27.93\00:09:32.83 is their emotional intelligence goes up by well over 00:09:32.83\00:09:36.27 two standard deviations. They start out below average 00:09:36.27\00:09:40.51 in general, and they end up in the top 20 percentile 00:09:40.51\00:09:43.75 of the country in most instances. 00:09:43.75\00:09:46.18 So not only do they leave depression- and anxiety-free; 00:09:46.18\00:09:49.82 they also are poised for success on a level that's far higher 00:09:49.82\00:09:55.26 than people who've never suffered from depression 00:09:55.26\00:09:57.56 and anxiety. So the point is, in 10 days, 00:09:57.56\00:10:01.70 if you focus in on it in the right way, it can dramatically 00:10:01.70\00:10:04.97 change for the better. So emotional intelligence 00:10:04.97\00:10:07.57 can be learned. It's not just inherited. 00:10:07.57\00:10:09.67 JB: If I believe a certain race of people have no right to live, 00:10:09.67\00:10:15.74 this is going to dramatically affect the way I express 00:10:15.74\00:10:19.45 my emotions--hate, persecutional--that may be 00:10:19.45\00:10:22.42 not an emotion--and that's going to affect how I act out 00:10:22.42\00:10:25.85 towards people. NN: Yes. 00:10:25.85\00:10:27.36 JB: If I believe in "love your neighbor as yourself," 00:10:27.36\00:10:30.73 surely then that's going to impact my emotions. 00:10:30.73\00:10:32.89 NN: Exactly. JB: What was number 2? 00:10:32.89\00:10:35.83 NN: Our evaluation of events. JB: Meaning something happened, 00:10:35.83\00:10:38.50 and how do I perceive that and weigh that up. 00:10:38.50\00:10:40.67 NN: Exactly. JB: Explain that. 00:10:40.67\00:10:41.70 NN: What we want to do is to be very objective 00:10:41.70\00:10:45.04 in our evaluation of events. JB: For instance, that lady 00:10:45.04\00:10:49.14 who served me at the checkout, she was rude; 00:10:49.14\00:10:52.88 she had an attitude towards me. I'm so ticked off. 00:10:52.88\00:10:56.92 However, somebody else says, "You know, I saw that she had 00:10:56.92\00:11:01.19 just dropped a box on her toe and she was under some stress, 00:11:01.19\00:11:03.86 and therefore..." Is this what we're talking 00:11:03.86\00:11:06.19 about, evaluating events? NN: Our bad emotions 00:11:06.19\00:11:09.00 are not caused by things outside of ourself entirely. 00:11:09.00\00:11:13.67 JB: Okay. NN: For instance, if the person 00:11:13.67\00:11:16.50 was very rude to you at the counter, what you need 00:11:16.50\00:11:19.37 to recognize is for you to get upset at that, you have 00:11:19.37\00:11:24.71 to actually not only be treated rudely, but you have 00:11:24.71\00:11:28.35 to allow that individual to get you upset. 00:11:28.35\00:11:31.29 JB: That's true. You have to make a decision-- 00:11:31.29\00:11:33.12 NN: There's a decision and there's a thought-making 00:11:33.12\00:11:35.26 process there. JB: That's really interesting. 00:11:35.26\00:11:36.99 NN: And part of emotional intelligence is recognizing 00:11:36.99\00:11:39.96 that we are actually responsible for our own emotions. 00:11:39.96\00:11:44.20 JB: Point three and point four. Evaluating events, 00:11:44.20\00:11:46.03 that's learning to look objectively at things 00:11:46.03\00:11:47.90 that have taken place, and not loading an event with 00:11:47.90\00:11:50.97 the kind of baggage that's going to weigh you down emotionally. 00:11:50.97\00:11:53.81 What was three and four? NN: The way we think 00:11:53.81\00:11:55.64 about problems. When you have a practical 00:11:55.64\00:11:57.98 problem, for instance, your car breaks down, and you're in the, 00:11:57.98\00:12:01.28 you know, you're in the middle of having to get to work 00:12:01.28\00:12:04.99 on time, and it's very crucial for you to get to work on time. 00:12:04.99\00:12:08.26 That's a practical problem. But if you have an emotional 00:12:08.26\00:12:11.33 reaction to that problem, of such where you're so angry 00:12:11.33\00:12:15.03 and upset that you can't even wisely help direct people 00:12:15.03\00:12:19.67 to get your car off of the road and to the side, and you're 00:12:19.67\00:12:24.41 so emotionally upset that you can't think properly to how 00:12:24.41\00:12:28.78 it's going to get fixed, that's going to be a major issue. 00:12:28.78\00:12:32.45 And so, often people, when they have a problem, 00:12:32.45\00:12:35.18 they actually introduce another problem that is 00:12:35.18\00:12:37.65 often worse, and that is their emotional reaction to it. 00:12:37.65\00:12:41.32 And when they realize, hey, that practical problem is going to be 00:12:41.32\00:12:43.89 there whether I'm miserable about it or not, so why not just 00:12:43.89\00:12:49.16 give up my misery over it? And then they can actually think 00:12:49.16\00:12:52.97 far better, actually be far more better relationship partners, 00:12:52.97\00:12:57.94 and they can actually get to the root of the problem often 00:12:57.94\00:13:01.31 and correct it far better. JB: Point four? 00:13:01.31\00:13:03.95 NN: Point four is our silent self-talk. 00:13:03.95\00:13:06.48 Those are the moment-by-moment messages we give ourself. 00:13:06.48\00:13:08.92 JB: Okay. NN: And here's the issue 00:13:08.92\00:13:10.25 in regards to that. Our feelings, actually, 00:13:10.25\00:13:15.02 what we think has more to do with our emotions than what is 00:13:15.02\00:13:18.86 happening in our life. And what a lot of people 00:13:18.86\00:13:23.83 don't realize is research has documented that 00:13:23.83\00:13:27.30 negative thoughts, which cause emotional turmoil, nearly always 00:13:27.30\00:13:31.84 contain gross distortions. On the surface it appears valid, 00:13:31.84\00:13:36.34 but often when we have these very negative emotions, 00:13:36.34\00:13:39.45 we have some irrational beliefs, our thinking often is twisted 00:13:39.45\00:13:44.69 or just plain wrong, and, actually, twisted thinking 00:13:44.69\00:13:48.16 is a major cause of suffering. JB: Boy, there's so much 00:13:48.16\00:13:51.03 we could talk about here, but I want to get to how we think, 00:13:51.03\00:13:55.63 how a person can learn to think positively and productively. 00:13:55.63\00:14:02.27 And we're going to see how this powerfully impacts 00:14:02.27\00:14:05.17 one's relationship with God. Learning to think straight 00:14:05.17\00:14:09.11 and be emotionally intelligent. More in just a moment. 00:14:09.11\00:14:13.08 "Every Word" is a one-minute Bible-based daily devotional 00:14:13.98\00:14:17.62 presented by Pastor John Bradshaw and designed 00:14:17.62\00:14:19.99 especially for busy people like you. Look for "Every Word" 00:14:19.99\00:14:24.03 on selected networks or watch it online every day 00:14:24.03\00:14:26.73 on our website, ItIsWritten.com. 00:14:26.73\00:14:29.70 ¤[upbeat melody]¤ 00:14:30.37\00:14:33.34 JB: A Mayo Clinic study has found that pessimists 00:14:37.44\00:14:40.68 have higher death rates over a 30-year period 00:14:40.68\00:14:43.38 than do optimistic people. The Mayo Clinic says optimism is 00:14:43.38\00:14:47.48 the belief that good things will happen to you and that negative 00:14:47.48\00:14:50.42 events are temporary setbacks to be overcome. 00:14:50.42\00:14:53.69 That's a lot like Romans 8:28, isn't it, which says that 00:14:53.69\00:14:56.36 "all things work together for good to them that love God, 00:14:56.36\00:14:59.23 to them who are called according to His purpose." 00:14:59.23\00:15:01.66 That's not to say everything that happens is going to 00:15:01.66\00:15:04.47 make you happy. But faith in God enables you 00:15:04.47\00:15:07.14 to believe that things are going to work out okay in the end. 00:15:07.14\00:15:09.47 Why? Because God's in charge. You can afford to look 00:15:09.47\00:15:12.71 on the bright side, because God is ultimately going to work 00:15:12.71\00:15:15.11 things out okay. And that kind of optimism 00:15:15.11\00:15:18.81 can lead to a very long life. I'm John Bradshaw 00:15:18.81\00:15:23.82 for It Is Written. Let's live today by every word. 00:15:23.82\00:15:27.76 JB: This is It Is Written. I'm John Bradshaw, 00:15:30.56\00:15:33.36 joined today by Dr. Neil Nedley. Dr. Nedley, we're talking about 00:15:33.36\00:15:37.33 emotional intelligence, how to manage your emotions rather than 00:15:37.33\00:15:41.10 being governed by your emotions. NN: Yes. 00:15:41.10\00:15:45.01 JB: We've talked about some fascinating things. 00:15:45.01\00:15:47.44 In just a second I want you to tell me how to think straight. 00:15:47.44\00:15:49.84 NN: (laughs) Okay. JB: But give me an example of 00:15:49.84\00:15:51.85 somebody who was confronted with a negative situation, rather 00:15:51.85\00:15:55.62 than caving into the situation and just bottoming out, 00:15:55.62\00:16:00.36 they approached it in a positive light with good consequences. 00:16:00.36\00:16:06.06 NN: Well, a good ancient example is actually Paul and Silas. 00:16:06.06\00:16:08.80 You know, they were taken against their will; they were, 00:16:08.80\00:16:12.07 they had done nothing wrong deserving of this. 00:16:12.07\00:16:14.40 They were beaten 39 times with a cat-o'-nine-tails, and then they 00:16:14.40\00:16:18.24 were put on an irregular dirt floor, not a nice even floor, 00:16:18.24\00:16:23.55 their feet were put up in stocks. 00:16:23.55\00:16:25.48 JB: Yeah, that's a bad scene. NN: And you would think 00:16:25.48\00:16:28.45 that they would be crying uncontrollably in prison 00:16:28.45\00:16:31.92 and saying, "Why us, Lord?" JB: And in fact, they had gone-- 00:16:31.92\00:16:35.09 this was in Philippi, and they had gone there-- 00:16:35.09\00:16:37.29 I think it's Acts, chapter 16-- they'd gone there 00:16:37.29\00:16:39.96 to do God's work. NN: Yes. 00:16:39.96\00:16:41.40 JB: They followed God's leading to this city to do 00:16:41.40\00:16:43.57 this great work for God, and all they get for it is this. 00:16:43.57\00:16:46.53 NN: Exactly. JB: And how would-- 00:16:46.53\00:16:48.14 how would you react? NN: Yeah. 00:16:48.14\00:16:50.34 JB: You know? NN: Instead, they had happy 00:16:50.34\00:16:52.14 looks on their faces, and they were singing praises to God. 00:16:52.14\00:16:56.21 And what that demonstrates is that our thoughts have much more 00:16:56.21\00:17:01.78 to do about how we're feeling than what is actually happening 00:17:01.78\00:17:06.92 in our life. So what was happening in their life, 00:17:06.92\00:17:09.49 they should be feeling terrible. But their thoughts were not 00:17:09.49\00:17:13.36 pop psychology thoughts. Pop psychology might say, 00:17:13.36\00:17:15.96 imagine you're on a beach in Hawaii. That would have 00:17:15.96\00:17:18.30 worked for no more than 1.2 seconds. 00:17:18.30\00:17:20.17 JB: That's right. NN: But they were thinking true 00:17:20.17\00:17:21.87 and accurate thoughts. And those true and accurate 00:17:21.87\00:17:24.11 thoughts were so powerful that, even under the most torture-some 00:17:24.11\00:17:27.64 conditions, they could have a happy look on their face, and 00:17:27.64\00:17:31.55 they could sing praises to God. That's how powerful 00:17:31.55\00:17:34.28 the thoughts are. JB: Isn't it true--I've done 00:17:34.28\00:17:36.69 this in group sittings-- isn't it true that you can 00:17:36.69\00:17:39.42 choose to feel miserable, and very quickly 00:17:39.42\00:17:42.76 you're miserable? NN: That's right. 00:17:42.76\00:17:44.19 JB: If you focus in on something and you think of something 00:17:44.19\00:17:46.19 negative, very quickly-- at the same time, you can choose 00:17:46.19\00:17:50.20 to think positive thoughts, and I mean productive, 00:17:50.20\00:17:52.87 not airy-fairy stuff. NN: No, that's right. 00:17:52.87\00:17:55.10 They have to be accurate thoughts, but they can be 00:17:55.10\00:17:58.61 on the positive side. And what we have a tendency 00:17:58.61\00:18:02.24 to do is think of only one side of the equation 00:18:02.24\00:18:06.41 and not balance it out with the whole better worldview 00:18:06.41\00:18:10.35 that would help our emotions. JB: There's a lot of "Poor me, 00:18:10.35\00:18:12.95 "I didn't deserve this; Life is so unfair." And that 00:18:12.95\00:18:15.99 doesn't tend to make positive, productive, healthy people. 00:18:15.99\00:18:19.56 NN: No. And what we need to realize is, if we live 00:18:19.56\00:18:22.43 in this world, we are going to be treated unfairly. 00:18:22.43\00:18:24.17 JB: That's true. NN: Sometimes very 00:18:24.17\00:18:25.73 significantly. I mean, this is a world of sin. 00:18:25.73\00:18:28.27 To me, I get excited when I actually am treated fairly, 00:18:28.27\00:18:33.01 because I expect that in this world of sin we're just going 00:18:33.01\00:18:36.31 to be treated unfairly at times. But how we deal with the fact 00:18:36.31\00:18:39.35 that we are being treated unfairly has a lot to do with 00:18:39.35\00:18:42.25 our emotional intelligence. JB: So how do we learn to 00:18:42.25\00:18:44.32 think straight, to think right, to think healthily? 00:18:44.32\00:18:47.82 Because this here is going to-- 00:18:47.82\00:18:50.03 this is life-changing stuff! NN: Yes. 00:18:50.03\00:18:52.66 JB: Walk us through some of these ways that we can 00:18:52.66\00:18:56.00 think straight. That's my terminology. 00:18:56.00\00:18:58.10 NN: The first thing we need to do is to analyze our thoughts. 00:18:58.10\00:19:01.64 So we're not going to be able to think straight unless 00:19:01.64\00:19:04.27 we are able to actually analyze the thoughts that we have. 00:19:04.27\00:19:08.21 JB: That sounds like something only someone with a PhD 00:19:08.21\00:19:10.68 could do. NN: (laughs) Sometimes 00:19:10.68\00:19:12.81 the people that have the most difficulty, 00:19:12.81\00:19:14.68 I've noticed, are really into the National Football League. 00:19:14.68\00:19:18.19 So I'll give them an example that they can understand. 00:19:18.19\00:19:20.19 JB: All right. NN: I'll say, listen to the 00:19:20.19\00:19:22.12 John Madden in your thoughts. You know how there's a big, 00:19:22.12\00:19:25.93 you know, event that occurs, you know, the big play. 00:19:25.93\00:19:28.80 And John Madden goes, and then he explains and slows it down 00:19:28.80\00:19:31.63 and says, "Okay, now this happened because of this, 00:19:31.63\00:19:34.27 and this happened because of that," 00:19:34.27\00:19:35.67 and so it's all laid out. JB: All right. 00:19:35.67\00:19:37.97 NN: So when things happen, listen to the John Madden 00:19:37.97\00:19:40.51 in your thoughts and analyze what happened. 00:19:40.51\00:19:43.41 JB: What really happened. NN: Secondly, you have 00:19:43.41\00:19:46.08 to look for distortions in your thoughts. 00:19:46.08\00:19:48.92 JB: What is a distortion in your thoughts? 00:19:48.92\00:19:50.72 NN: Turns out there's ten different ways 00:19:50.72\00:19:52.42 of distorted thinking. And so all-or-nothing thinking, 00:19:52.42\00:19:56.39 for instance-- JB: What's that? 00:19:56.39\00:19:58.19 NN: ...most of the time it's distorted. An example 00:19:58.19\00:20:00.03 of that would be a patient that I had that came to me 00:20:00.03\00:20:03.16 who was a successful businessperson, but he ran for 00:20:03.16\00:20:06.40 Congress, and he lost the race. And he comes to me and he says, 00:20:06.40\00:20:10.54 "Dr. Nedley, I lost the race for Congress. I am a big zero." 00:20:10.54\00:20:15.28 That's all-or-nothing thinking. Just because you lose a race 00:20:15.28\00:20:18.05 doesn't mean you're a big zero. Just because you get a divorce 00:20:18.05\00:20:20.98 doesn't mean you're a big zero. Just because you flunked a test 00:20:20.98\00:20:23.75 doesn't mean you're a big zero. But that's where all-or-nothing 00:20:23.75\00:20:26.59 thinking leads to. JB: Mmm, okay. 00:20:26.59\00:20:29.02 NN: And it can happen the other way around as well, where just 00:20:29.02\00:20:31.49 because I hit a home run, that my team won the World Series, 00:20:31.49\00:20:35.20 I'm the most valuable player and there's nobody better than me. 00:20:35.20\00:20:39.30 That's actually a setup for an emotional disaster as well. 00:20:39.30\00:20:42.64 And so both of them are actually distorted thoughts 00:20:42.64\00:20:46.51 that are gonna lead to problems. JB: Okay. 00:20:46.51\00:20:48.18 NN: And then there's other things, like a mental filter. 00:20:48.18\00:20:50.78 You know, an example of this is someone who came to one 00:20:50.78\00:20:52.98 of our programs recently. He says, "You know, my life 00:20:52.98\00:20:56.18 is just, it's just terrible." And I said, "Well, explain." 00:20:56.18\00:20:58.95 He says, "You know, my wife nags, 00:20:58.95\00:21:01.96 I've got bills piling up, my boss yells at me 00:21:01.96\00:21:05.96 almost constantly. And furthermore, I'm going bald, 00:21:05.96\00:21:11.27 and I'm short and fat," and, you know, that was 00:21:11.27\00:21:14.57 his side of the equation. As we continued the 00:21:14.57\00:21:17.14 conversation, I realized he had a wife who was very attractive, 00:21:17.14\00:21:21.04 he actually had kids that he had a good relationship with, 00:21:21.04\00:21:26.31 he actually enjoyed his church, he had good friends, and even 00:21:26.31\00:21:29.98 though he was short and fat, he could still walk 00:21:29.98\00:21:32.19 and feed himself. JB: So how did he get this thing 00:21:32.19\00:21:34.99 so far out of whack, and what could he do to adjust this? 00:21:34.99\00:21:37.63 This just takes looking at this with new eyes, right? 00:21:37.63\00:21:40.93 NN: That's right. When you have a mental filter, 00:21:40.93\00:21:42.90 you have to be intentional and forceful for looking 00:21:42.90\00:21:46.37 for evidence that supports a different way of thinking. 00:21:46.37\00:21:49.70 JB: Glass half full, glass half empty? 00:21:49.70\00:21:52.47 NN: That's right. JB: You can learn to look 00:21:52.47\00:21:53.68 on the positive side. NN: Yes. 00:21:53.68\00:21:55.18 JB: Wow. NN: And sometimes 00:21:55.18\00:21:56.51 it does take time. It has to be intentional 00:21:56.51\00:21:58.18 and forceful. You know, Joseph suffered from PTSD, 00:21:58.18\00:22:01.88 post-traumatic stress disorder. He could smell the smells 00:22:01.88\00:22:05.65 of the pit; he could hear the exact voices; 00:22:05.65\00:22:08.19 he knew what those brothers did. When he was faced with them, 00:22:08.19\00:22:11.23 of having all of that poor emotional reaction, he refused 00:22:11.23\00:22:14.63 to have a mental filter, and he was intentional 00:22:14.63\00:22:18.13 and forceful for searching for a different way of thinking 00:22:18.13\00:22:21.04 about his brothers. And it took him time, 00:22:21.04\00:22:23.47 but he found that different way of thinking about his brothers, 00:22:23.47\00:22:25.64 and that's when he revealed himself, and that great 00:22:25.64\00:22:28.14 family moment occurred. JB: What are some other ways 00:22:28.14\00:22:31.28 to learn to think-- to learn to think? 00:22:31.28\00:22:33.38 NN: Over-generalization would be another one. 00:22:33.38\00:22:35.98 JB: They're all alike. They all treat me bad. 00:22:35.98\00:22:37.89 Is that an over-generalization? NN: That's an 00:22:37.89\00:22:39.35 over-generalization. My roommate in college, 00:22:39.35\00:22:41.59 I remember he had his eye on a girl for about six months 00:22:41.59\00:22:44.23 before he mustered up enough courage to ask her out. 00:22:44.23\00:22:47.30 And when he comes back, and she turned him down, you know, 00:22:47.30\00:22:50.87 he's ready to cry, and he says, "Neil, I'm destined 00:22:50.87\00:22:54.47 to be lonely and miserable the rest of my life." 00:22:54.47\00:22:56.81 JB: All right. NN: And he over-generalized 00:22:56.81\00:22:57.87 two ways. One way is because she turned him down once; 00:22:57.87\00:23:00.51 he knew she was always going to turn him down. 00:23:00.51\00:23:02.84 Did he really know that to be true? No. 00:23:02.84\00:23:04.78 Secondly, 100% of eligible women had identical taste to hers, 00:23:04.78\00:23:08.32 and thus he would be endlessly rejected. 00:23:08.32\00:23:10.22 JB: Uh-huh. NN: And so people with 00:23:10.22\00:23:11.92 that cognitive distortion have a fear of rejection, 00:23:11.92\00:23:14.16 fear of trying new things. And it's actually 00:23:14.16\00:23:17.16 the cognitive distortion that can affect even great people. 00:23:17.16\00:23:19.76 JB: Yeah, that is a distortion, isn't it? 00:23:19.76\00:23:22.13 NN: When we have the ability to generalize, which is high IQ, 00:23:22.13\00:23:25.27 we have a tendency to over-generalize. 00:23:25.27\00:23:27.90 And over-generalization is going to cause emotional problems. 00:23:27.90\00:23:31.77 JB: In Philippians chapter 2, verse 5, the Bible says, 00:23:31.77\00:23:35.14 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus." 00:23:35.14\00:23:40.98 Verse 13: "It is God which worketh in you both to will 00:23:40.98\00:23:45.49 and to do of His good pleasure." So is the key here 00:23:45.49\00:23:48.02 being connected to God and remaining connected to God? 00:23:48.02\00:23:50.66 NN: The Bible says, "Be transformed by the renewing 00:23:50.66\00:23:54.00 of your mind." That means correcting 00:23:54.00\00:23:55.96 the distorted thoughts. And David said to God, 00:23:55.96\00:23:59.07 "Search me," "try me," "know my thoughts!" 00:23:59.07\00:24:02.07 What he was saying is, see if there's any distorted way. 00:24:02.07\00:24:04.74 I want to know about it. I may not see the distortions, 00:24:04.74\00:24:07.28 but see if You can point out the distorted ways, so that I can 00:24:07.28\00:24:11.51 be led to life everlasting. And so it's not just 00:24:11.51\00:24:15.35 knowing the truth as far as doctrinal teaching. 00:24:15.35\00:24:19.79 The psalmist also said, well, who's going to dwell in 00:24:19.79\00:24:22.19 Thy tabernacle, Thy holy hill? Those that walk uprightly and 00:24:22.19\00:24:25.99 state the truth to themselves. Not just telling others 00:24:25.99\00:24:29.86 the truth, but telling themselves the truth. 00:24:29.86\00:24:32.23 That is really those that will be ultimately successful. 00:24:32.23\00:24:35.77 JB: The wonderful thing is, we can, we can take responsibility, 00:24:35.77\00:24:41.51 implement some theoretically simple steps and practices. 00:24:41.51\00:24:47.78 We can have new minds. NN: Exactly. 00:24:47.78\00:24:50.52 JB: Think new thoughts, and it can certainly be done as we 00:24:50.52\00:24:53.86 allow Christ into our mind. We can start thinking His way 00:24:53.86\00:24:58.26 and be healthy emotionally. NN: "Bringing every thought" to 00:24:58.26\00:25:01.26 "the captivity...of Christ." JB: Amen. Dr. Nedley, thanks. 00:25:01.26\00:25:05.27 NN: Thank you. JB: What a blessing to know 00:25:05.27\00:25:07.34 that emotional intelligence is something you can possess, 00:25:07.34\00:25:09.84 and when your mind is renewed, your relationship with God 00:25:09.84\00:25:13.21 is going to be like it's never been before. 00:25:13.21\00:25:16.51 ¤[music]¤ JB: It's basic. 00:25:17.21\00:25:22.05 While most world religions are built around the idea of earning 00:25:22.05\00:25:25.99 your way to a better future, Christianity builds its hope of 00:25:25.99\00:25:29.26 forgiveness and eternal life on a relationship. 00:25:29.26\00:25:32.86 It's kind of sad, then, that we find ourselves 00:25:32.86\00:25:34.66 rushing through life, checking the news 00:25:34.66\00:25:36.60 or social media while we're inhaling our breakfast. 00:25:36.60\00:25:39.00 We often don't have time for God. 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JB: I think we'll take 00:26:50.17\00:26:51.61 the opportunity to pray now. Join us, would you, 00:26:51.61\00:26:53.98 as we pray together. ¤[gentle melody]¤ 00:26:53.98\00:26:55.68 Our Father in heaven, we can be transformed 00:26:55.68\00:26:59.11 by the renewing of our mind. By Your grace we can bring 00:26:59.11\00:27:01.72 "into captivity" every thought "to the obedience of Christ." 00:27:01.72\00:27:05.35 And I ask You that You would take possession of us to such 00:27:05.35\00:27:08.92 an extent that our minds would be one, the mind of the believer 00:27:08.92\00:27:12.99 and the mind of the great God of the universe. 00:27:12.99\00:27:15.70 So, Sovereign Lord, I pray, give us a new mind, 00:27:15.70\00:27:19.97 let us think Your way, transform us emotionally, 00:27:19.97\00:27:25.44 and grow us that we can be one with You now 00:27:25.44\00:27:29.28 and for all eternity. In Jesus' name we pray, 00:27:29.28\00:27:33.01 amen. 00:27:33.01\00:27:34.18 ¤[gentle melody fades]¤¤ 00:27:35.22\00:27:41.19 JB: Thank you so much for joining me today. 00:27:44.69\00:27:46.86 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time. 00:27:46.86\00:27:49.36 Until then, please remember: "It is written, 'Man shall 00:27:49.36\00:27:54.20 not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds 00:27:54.20\00:27:59.07 from the mouth of God.'" ¤[swelling orchestral theme]¤ 00:27:59.07\00:28:07.95