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>>John Bradshaw: This is It
Is Written. I'm John Bradshaw.
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Thanks for joining me today.
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You don't have to
go too terribly far,
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read too many web pages
or open too many newspapers
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to discover that
healthcare is a major issue
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in these United States
and all around the world.
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Major healthcare
challenges are affecting
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millions and
millions of people today.
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And, remarkably,
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there are often some very
simple things that you can do
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to minimize your
risk or to get out from
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under that health burden.
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The Bible is a
book that encourages
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us to take our health seriously.
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The Bible tells
us that our bodies
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are the temple
of the Holy Spirit.
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Jesus came into this world
to give us life more abundantly.
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Back in the Old
Testament, God said,
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“I am the Lord
who healeth thee.”
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Well, we're going to
talk about a health subject
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that relates to
just about all of us,
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and my guest
today is a good friend,
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Dr. David DeRose from
CompassHealth Consulting.
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Dr. DeRose,
thanks for joining me.
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>>Dr. DeRose: Great
to be with you, John.
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>>John: This is not our
first discussion together,
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but this is the first
time we've discussed here
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the subject of obesity.
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>>Dr. DeRose:
Extremely important subject.
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Some
three-quarters of Americans,
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and many people
throughout the world,
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impacted by this disorder.
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And what's
interesting to me, though, John,
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we throw out this
figure, three-quarters.
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I mean, that's not just
obesity, medically speaking.
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It's also overweight.
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But the problem is
something that is getting
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so much attention because
it's affecting our youth.
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Something like,
uh, one in five youth
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now meeting the definitions for
being significantly overweight.
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>>John: So there's
overweight and there's obesity.
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When does
overweight become obesity?
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What's the threshold?
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>>Dr. DeRose: Well,
you know, we use numbers
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based on body mass
index, which is, you know,
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based on
kilograms per meter squared,
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and a lot of people, you know,
their eyes kind of glaze over.
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But the simple point I like to
make to people, John, is this:
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you know, we're speaking
from a biblical perspective.
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The first thing I like people
to know is, you know what?
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We can come to
Jesus just as we are.
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>>John: That's right.
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Jesus is not saying, you know,
once you lose enough weight,
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then you're good
enough to come to me.
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He says, “Whosoever will take
of the water of life freely.”
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And so that encourages me
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as we're coming from
a biblical perspective.
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>>John: Now, we're
going to have to talk about
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some pretty obvious things.
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Uh, if someone is obese,
what they can do about it.
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But let's talk about some
of the causes for obesity.
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Perhaps they're obvious.
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But let's walk
through some of them anyway.
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>>Dr. DeRose: Well, let's
talk about the ones that often
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don't come onto
the radar screen.
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>>John: Okay.
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>>Dr. DeRose: First of all,
there are early life history
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factors that affect our weight.
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Some people in the womb
were exposed to stresses
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that predisposed them
to high blood pressure,
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or to diabetes, or to obesity.
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Maybe in early life, 1, 2 years
of age, your feeding practices,
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not of your own choosing,
were such that it primed you
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with more fat cells, so
it's easier for you to be obese.
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Hormonal factors can affect you.
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There are actually
metabolic hormonal causes.
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One of the classic
ones is Cushing's disorder,
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or Cushing's disease,
or Cushing's syndrome,
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that actually can cause
you to put on excess weight
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even if you're
doing everything right.
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And so here at
the very beginning,
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I want to tell people, you can't
just look at someone and say,
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oh, you, you know, you
didn't listen to It Is Written,
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you didn't listen to Dr.
DeRose and John Bradshaw.
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Otherwise, you
wouldn't have this problem.
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>>John: We're going to do
our best to talk about this
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respectfully and in
a nonjudgmental way.
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And I think, I hope, we're going
to talk about this redemptively.
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>>Dr. DeRose: Most definitely.
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>>John: What can someone do?
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We don't need to point
the finger and be critical,
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but we do want to help
people who want to be helped,
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or will help
themselves, or receive
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the help that comes from God.
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So where do we begin with this?
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>>Dr. DeRose: The
premise I take, John,
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is that in the very
beginning, when God created us,
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he knew what
kind of environment,
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what kind of setting we needed
to be in to live for eternity.
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That was God's
original intention.
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So although we're not
going to live eternally
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on our own devices, God
still, in the very beginning,
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gives us clues
about what the ideal diet,
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what the ideal activity level,
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other elements in lifestyle
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that can actually
help us to avoid obesity,
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at least to a large extent.
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>>John: You mentioned a
moment ago the challenge
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that we're seeing with
kids who are overweight.
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That is on the rise, is it?
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>>Dr. DeRose: Most definitely.
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>>John: What do
we put that down to?
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>>Dr. DeRose:
Well, there's a lot.
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I mean, there's studies
showing that the more time
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we spend in front of a
television, I hate to say it,
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but even It Is Written.
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If someone is just
watching It Is Written nonstop,
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they, the research actually
suggests it's not just sitting
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in front of the TV and not
doing activity that's a problem,
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but it's also the commercials
and the other messages.
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So It Is Written gets,
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you know, the green
light on that basis.
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>>John: Oh, I'm glad to
know. All right. All right.
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>>Dr. DeRose: But we're spending
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far too much time
doing inactive activities.
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Our kids are being pulled
away from physical activity.
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And that's a huge determinant
of how much we weigh.
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>>John: Surely it's true,
I have not read the study,
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I didn't write the study.
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But my, I have a hunch that um,
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everybody's
connected to the Internet,
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everybody has a device,
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there's so much
you can do online.
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You can explore the
world, connect with people,
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play games, veg out.
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Before to get
your entertainment,
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you had to run outside
and play with your friends.
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Now you can sit
in front of a screen.
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That's just true, isn't it?
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>>Dr. DeRose: It just is true,
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and it is something
that is contributing
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to the obesity epidemic.
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>>John: What can
we do about that?
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>>Dr. DeRose: Basically,
it's turning back the clock.
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It's, uh, not
having so much screen time.
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It's parents telling their kids,
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you know, here are some
limits on the television,
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on the electronic devices.
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And helping to do
activity with them.
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There's nothing as
powerful as what a parent models
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in his or her life.
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>>John: Okay, so
now that we're adults,
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what can we do to
begin to turn this back?
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Let's just start
scratching the surface
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and come back to
this in a moment.
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What can we do?
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>>Dr. DeRose: Let's
start with a simple one.
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And I say it's simple because
I've seen my own patients do it.
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I've got a patient in
my practice right now;
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he lost 60 pounds over the
course of probably six months.
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I said to him,
“What did you do?”
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One simple change.
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>>John: What was that?
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He got rid of the
sugar-sweetened beverages,
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and he's
drinking primarily water.
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Now, he's a big guy.
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>>John: I have a
friend, I can tell you this,
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who lost 130 pounds.
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He was a big guy, too.
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Big, tall guy.
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And, uh, I asked him,
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same question, what did you do?
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He said, I used to carry
soda with me everywhere I went.
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I got rid of it.
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Never realized quite
how much he was drinking.
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And that was the
thing that really,
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the, the primary component
of him losing 130 pounds.
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>>Dr. DeRose:
Isn't that amazing?
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>>John: That's amazing.
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>>Dr. DeRose: But many,
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many of my colleagues
have told me the same thing.
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Just that simple change:
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go with the water instead
of the caloric beverages.
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>>John: And that
is a simple change.
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>>Dr. DeRose: It is.
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>>John: Okay. There
are other simple changes,
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many of them.
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We want to get at
this thing, obesity.
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And then we're going to
turn it around and make some
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spiritual parallels that
will bless you in big ways.
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Don't go away, we'll
be right back with more.
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>>John: Thanks for joining
me today on It Is Written.
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I'm John Bradshaw.
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My guest today
is Dr. David DeRose
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of CompassHealth Consulting.
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Dr. DeRose, as we
talk about obesity today,
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I've got a question, because,
I have a challenge with my belt.
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>>Dr. DeRose: Hmm.
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>>John: My belt.
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And with a couple
of pairs of pants.
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They used to give
me no trouble at all,
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and now I find they
protest more than they used to
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when I put them on.
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I don't think I'm doing
much that's very different
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to what I used to
do, except, of course,
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when I was a kid
I was super active,
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and now I'm a
little less active.
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How much does gaining weight
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have to do with the
natural aging process?
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>>Dr. DeRose: In medical
circles, the million-dollar word
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that is sometimes
discussed is called sarcopenia.
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And in simple language, it
means that as we get older,
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we tend to lose muscle mass.
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So even if a person weighs
the same at 60 as they did
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when they were 30, the odds are,
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unless they've
been very deliberate
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with a fitness program,
they've got less muscle mass.
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And here's where the
rubber meets the road
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in the discussion of obesity.
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It's muscle
mass, lean body mass,
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that drives metabolism.
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So as I lose that muscle mass,
my metabolism is slowing down.
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So it's not just
purely a function of age,
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but age does tend to go along
with a slowing of metabolism
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and a decrease
in lean body mass.
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>>John: Unfortunately,
I'm, uh, I'm seeing that.
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And so what that means is,
and most people are seeing that,
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because most
people weigh too much.
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What that means is,
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we have to be intentional
about this, don't we?
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>>Dr. DeRose: It's so
fascinating, to me, John,
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that many times we
take things for granted
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until they get out of hand.
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It's sometimes the diagnosis
of high blood pressure,
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a diabetes diagnosis,
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with so many of
these chronic diseases
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linked to gaining weight,
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and it doesn't have
to be a huge amount.
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>>John: How much?
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>>Dr. DeRose: I mean,
even, even losing five percent
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of one's weight can
make a measurable difference
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in these metabolic diseases.
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>>John: Five percent.
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So for a lot of
people who are overweight,
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that'd just be 10 pounds.
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>>Dr. DeRose: That's right.
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So someone who
weighs in the 200,
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dropping 10 pounds can
make a significant difference.
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>>John: Oh, no
kidding. That's all?
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>>Dr. DeRose: That's right.
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>>John: Okay, so
let's talk about that.
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Someone wants to drop 10 pounds.
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What should they do?
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>>Dr. DeRose: In the
beginning, in Genesis chapter 1,
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God gave Adam and Eve a diet
that was wholly plant based.
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Those plant foods are
loaded with fiber and water.
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So eating more of
those whole plant foods
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is going to fill me up,
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going to satisfy me
with much less calories.
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>>John: Okay.
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So that's a
simple place to start,
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although for some people,
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they can't imagine
making those kinds of changes.
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Do you have to
change all at once,
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or can you ease
into this gradually?
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How do you go about
changing what you eat?
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>>Dr. DeRose: The idea is just
start doing something, okay?
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So have one meatless day a week.
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Have one meatless meal a
week, if that's novel for you.
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And start experimenting
more with beans and whole grain.
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>>John: How quickly, you
mentioned someone earlier,
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60 pounds in six months.
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If someone gives themselves
to some type of lifestyle change
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and there's got to
be a variance here,
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how quickly is it
reasonable to assume a person
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can see
themselves losing weight?
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>>Dr. DeRose: Well,
I've worked with intensive
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lifestyle change programs.
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We have people come
in for two to three weeks
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at a live-in facility,
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and we would typically see
weight loss in the range of
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4-5 percent over that
three-week time period.
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So a 200-lb. person
would drop 10 pounds over that,
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over the course of
just two or three weeks.
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So, again, it's
attainable with a,
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and that's a very
deliberate program.
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And, you know, we're
helping them exercise,
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we're helping them eat right,
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they're more active,
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they're removed
from their stressors.
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Because stress, and
those stress hormones,
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actually, by the way,
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they're the same hormones
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that are involved
in Cushing's syndrome.
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That syndrome
that causes obesity?
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You ramp up your
stress hormone levels,
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and you're
moving yourself closer,
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I mean, I'm using a little
bit of poetic license here,
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but closer to a
more Cushinoyd state.
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>>John: So do
something about what you drink.
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Watch what you eat.
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Certainly, you've got to
get moving and start burning
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some calories and being mobile.
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But let me ask
you this question:
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is there an unhealthy way
to go about losing weight?
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What are some things
that people should not do?
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>>Dr. DeRose: I recommend that
people make lifestyle changes
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that they're going
to stick with for life.
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Don't go on these crash diets,
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because they're
really not sustainable.
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And don't set
yourself up for failure by,
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by setting some kind of a
goal that's totally unrealistic.
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When I was
running a hospital-based
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weight-loss program,
I would do a history.
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I'd ask a person,
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“Well, what did you weigh
when you were, you know, 15?”
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If a person told me they
weighed 400 when they were 15,
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and they're setting a
weight loss goal of 120,
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I'm thinking, you know what?
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At 600 pounds, this is not
really likely to be obtainable.
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Set the goals too high, and even
if you make a lot of progress,
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you're going to throw in
the towel because you think,
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hey, I could never weigh
120 like my next-door neighbor.
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>>John: You
mentioned the fad diets.
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They're not helpful, are they?
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>>Dr. DeRose: They're
generally not helpful at all.
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Now, some people
say, well, but, you know,
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it motivated me to do this.
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But the problem is,
when you get on a diet
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that causes rapid weight loss,
you lose muscle mass as well,
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and we already talked about
how that drives metabolism.
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So it makes it so
easy when you go back
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to eating your
old way of eating.
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Now your metabolism's slower,
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and you actually put on more
weight than you originally lost.
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>>John: You mentioned, I think,
a key thing: a lifestyle change.
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>>Dr. DeRose: Huge.
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>>John: Yeah, you can
go on a six-week diet or a
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six-month diet
and make a change,
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but you've got to go
back to what you were before,
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and what you were before got you
to where you didn't want to be.
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So it's really
important to keep in mind,
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isn't it, the long haul?
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What changes can I
adopt that I can stick with,
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that will continue
to provide benefit.
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>>Dr. DeRose:
It's really important.
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And when I work
closely with people, I say,
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look at those things, if we want
to just use diet as an example.
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Look at the problem foods.
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What things do you have trouble
controlling your consumption of?
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Believe it or not, the best
strategy is the same strategy
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we give the alcoholic
or the nicotine addict.
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We say, leave that
food out completely.
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Leave it out
completely! you know they say.
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It's my favorite food!
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But that is the path
to success if you have
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an addictive relationship
with a certain food.
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>>John: The
wonderful thing about attacking
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a diet-related issue
is, there's so much to eat.
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And if you, if you
don't, if someone tells you,
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lay off the M&Ms, man,
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you could eat
blueberries or carrot sticks.
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I know that didn't
excite you, the carrot sticks.
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But you could, you
could find all kinds of fruit,
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your favorite fruit.
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You can find, anyhow,
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there are lots of good
alternatives aren't there?
00:16:36.22\00:16:37.93
>>Dr. DeRose: There are.
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And the good news,
John, is God has created us
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with the ability to
develop new enjoyments.
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We make a clean break with
those things that are harmful.
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We can develop
new enjoyments for
00:16:48.67\00:16:50.24
the blueberries and the carrots.
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And I think it's so
interesting: when God speaks,
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typically, look at
the Ten Commandments.
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He didn't say, cut
back on your stealing.
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Do a little bit less in the way
of extramarital relations right?
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>>John: Right.
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>>Dr. DeRose:
Clearcut guidelines.
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Those are the most powerful when
it comes to behavior change.
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>>John: The fact of the
matter is that one's diet
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or one's lack of
following good health principles
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ends up with obesity,
00:17:13.90\00:17:15.16
which will often just drag
a person to an early grave.
00:17:15.20\00:17:17.27
>>Dr. DeRose: That's right.
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>>John: So one's motivation
to want to make these changes
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should be really pretty high,
00:17:20.17\00:17:21.14
because the, not
making the changes, disaster.
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Making the
changes, fantastic benefits.
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Fantastic benefits.
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Including a clearer
mind that will more keenly
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hear the voice of God
and discern the will of God.
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We'll discuss that
more in just a moment.
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>>John: The story goes that
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“Go therefore and make
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>>John: Thanks for joining
me today on It Is Written.
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My guest is Dr. David DeRose
from CompassHealth Consulting.
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Dr. DeRose, as
we discuss obesity,
00:19:20.96\00:19:22.69
we're discussing, frankly, we're
discussing a runaway train,
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because the problem
has just got out of hand
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in the Western world.
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That's true, isn't it?
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>>Dr. DeRose: It really is.
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And, you know, John as we
speak about the spiritual impact
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and the ministry impact, one
of the sobering statistics is,
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if a person is
overweight and has diabetes,
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that can increase their
risk of dementia up to fourfold.
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So we're talking
about things that
00:19:46.65\00:19:47.95
not only cut our life short,
00:19:47.98\00:19:49.78
but they definitely
impact our relationship
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with God and with other people.
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>>John: Uh, we
talked about diet,
00:19:54.16\00:19:56.36
making good
choices with what you eat,
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what you drink.
00:19:57.73\00:19:59.29
Uh, are there any other things
00:19:59.33\00:20:00.56
that people ought
to be thinking about?
00:20:00.60\00:20:02.43
>>Dr. DeRose: Well, I would say
have an accountability partner.
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>>John: Okay.
00:20:05.30\00:20:06.27
>>Dr. DeRose: I
mean, it could be a spouse,
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could be a close
friend, could be a church group.
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Because what we
find about behaviors
00:20:09.17\00:20:11.17
is if you have a
supportive environment,
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it's powerful.
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Fascinating study in
one of the science journals.
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This is a family of journals,
the science family of journals.
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The comment of the
authors was that basically
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who we keep company with is
impacting our risk of obesity.
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>>John: One thing
that I find fascinating
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is that sugar consumption
is linked to obesity.
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There's sugar in everything.
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Do you think people know,
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even when they eat health foods,
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they're often
eating way too much sugar?
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>>Dr. DeRose:
It's a sad commentary.
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I tell people when they look at
those carbohydrate-rich foods,
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shoot for one
fifth of the calories of,
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from carbohydrates as
being from simple sugars.
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So you're picking that granola
because you think it's healthy.
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But that granola
may have 50 percent
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of its carbohydrate
calories as simple sugars,
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simple carbohydrates.
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>>John: Now, an
interesting thing:
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somebody gave me a
snack at Christmas,
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you know, as, as
you'll do around the office.
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And it was a, it
was a sugary snack.
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And I had this sugary
snack food in my hand.
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I looked at the sugar content.
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My wife had a
granola bar in her hand.
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I said, “Do something for me.
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Look at the sugar
content in that granola bar.”
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What I had was
obviously not a health food.
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What she had is
taken to be a health food.
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It had more than double
the sugar in the granola bar
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than I had in the sugary snack
food that somebody had given me.
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>>Dr. DeRose: It is startling.
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And if you don't read
labels, you'll get in trouble.
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And I've seen this happen with
so many of the dessert options.
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You know, there's
a low-fat dessert.
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You look at it; it's got twice
the calories from sugar in it.
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>>John: Umm, and calories
from sugar is a real problem.
00:21:49.80\00:21:51.57
>>Dr. DeRose: It is,
as are the problems from,
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you know, with fat calories.
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>>John: In most cases,
not all, but in most cases
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we are dealing with a
preventable healthcare crisis.
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>>Dr. DeRose: In most
cases, you're exactly right.
00:22:01.92\00:22:03.82
And a person, again, doesn't
have to reach some ideal number,
00:22:03.85\00:22:07.16
but if they can trim
down, adopt healthier behaviors,
00:22:07.19\00:22:10.03
their weight will come down,
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they'll feel better,
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they'll look better,
00:22:12.13\00:22:12.96
and their
ministry will be enhanced.
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You know, one paraphrase of
a famous New Testament text is,
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“Don't let the world
press you into its mold.”
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And “Be not
conformed to this world.”
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>>John: Yeah.
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>>Dr. DeRose: But,
John, it's so interesting.
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You're right.
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It's often, we
slip into these habits.
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But it's being deliberate.
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It's refocusing our lifestyle.
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That's really where it starts.
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>>John: Yeah, for sure.
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Okay, now let's talk about
this: you eat too much, you,
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there ends up
being too much of you.
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What about people
who consume the Bible,
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read spiritual books,
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attend worship services.
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They, they receive, receive,
receive, but don't give.
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I've heard of spiritual
obesity being referred to,
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where you consume
and consume and consume.
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God wants for His children
to be not just consumers
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of spiritual things,
but sharers, producers.
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Discuss that with me as
a minister of the gospel.
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>>Dr. DeRose: No,
it's a great analogy,
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because Jesus, if
you wanted to summarize
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His great
commission in one word,
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the word is “go.”
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And so it's, what we find
in the obesity realm is true:
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it's not just the
diet, but it's the activity.
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It's the going.
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And it's so true in
the spiritual realm,
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John. You and I have seen it.
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You can have
this lethargy, really,
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that comes over a person
who just is so focused on
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“what can I get
out of the Bible?”
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and, in fact, their
spiritual life suffers.
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They can be going
to church meetings.
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They can be watching all
the It Is Written programs.
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But it's not at the spiritual
level where they could be
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because they're not sharing.
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>>John: Paul told
Timothy to learn these things
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and then teach them to others,
so that they can teach others.
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>>Dr. DeRose: That's right.
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>>John: Yeah.
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So what would you say
to that person who maybe,
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and there's a
massive amount of people
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who've never shared their faith.
00:23:55.70\00:23:58.37
Never.
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Never opened up the pages
of the Bible with somebody.
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Never witnessed.
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Never invited someone to a,
a church or religious service.
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How do we help those people
to become spiritually active
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rather than spiritually obese?
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>>Dr. DeRose: I think
it begins with recognizing
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Jesus' call for each one of us.
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We're all called
to be disciple makers.
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When we recognize that, it
should change our prayer life.
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Lord, how do you want me
to fulfill that calling today?
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Give me an opportunity.
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Show me someone
that I can encourage,
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someone that I can share with.
00:24:28.90\00:24:30.07
>>John: I want to read
that passage that you mentioned,
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because it's just,
it's just so important.
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In Matthew, chapter
28, the great commission.
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At the end of the chapter,
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“Jesus came and
spoke to them, saying,
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‘All authority has been given
to Me in heaven and on earth.'”
00:24:40.58\00:24:43.04
He said, “'Go therefore.'”
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Go. You can't
go and be inactive.
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“'And make
disciples of all nations,
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baptizing them in
the name of the Father
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and of the Son and
of the Holy Spirit,
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teaching them to
observe all things
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that I have commanded you.'”
00:24:55.66\00:24:56.62
And then Jesus promises
us his presence with us.
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God has commissioned every one
of us to be a disciple maker.
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>>Dr. DeRose: That's right.
00:25:03.10\00:25:04.17
>>John: And perhaps we
are gifted in various ways,
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and it seems to come
more naturally to some
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than to others.
00:25:08.47\00:25:09.04
But you can't say, oh,
00:25:09.07\00:25:10.21
sharing my faith is
not my spiritual gift.
00:25:10.24\00:25:12.71
There's nothing
to hide behind here.
00:25:12.74\00:25:14.54
God brings us into
contact with people.
00:25:14.58\00:25:16.24
If we're prayerful
and we're on the lookout,
00:25:16.28\00:25:18.68
we can find people
to share our faith with.
00:25:18.71\00:25:21.62
And that's just good
for us on a spiritual level.
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Not just good for
them, but good for us.
00:25:24.45\00:25:26.02
>>Dr. DeRose: It is.
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And the way this all
comes full circle is,
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pray for someone who
has needs like yours.
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If you're trying to lose weight,
00:25:30.89\00:25:32.33
pray that God will
bring you into contact
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with someone else
who needs to trim down,
00:25:34.30\00:25:37.00
and maybe that's a
person not of your faith.
00:25:37.03\00:25:39.27
Maybe they don't know
what you know spiritually.
00:25:39.30\00:25:41.47
But as you work
together on your health,
00:25:41.50\00:25:43.71
it opens up doors for
you to share your faith.
00:25:43.74\00:25:46.84
>>John: Doing something about
de, destructive lifestyle habits
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is an insurmountable
problem for many people.
00:25:49.78\00:25:51.85
However, here's
what we remember.
00:25:51.88\00:25:54.18
Jesus said, “I
am with you always.”
00:25:54.22\00:25:56.35
Paul wrote,
00:25:56.38\00:25:57.65
“I can do all things through
Christ who strengthens me.”
00:25:57.69\00:26:01.02
And he wrote in
the same chapter,
00:26:01.06\00:26:02.42
Philippians, chapter 4,
00:26:02.46\00:26:04.06
“My God shall
supply all your need
00:26:04.09\00:26:06.63
according to His riches
in glory by Christ Jesus.”
00:26:06.66\00:26:08.90
So we don't want to be talking
about righteousness by works,
00:26:08.93\00:26:12.43
or health by works.
00:26:12.47\00:26:14.77
Everything we do,
00:26:14.80\00:26:15.94
we want to do in association
and cooperation with God,
00:26:15.97\00:26:19.37
who blesses you,
00:26:19.41\00:26:20.98
who dwells in you,
00:26:21.01\00:26:22.98
and will work in you
00:26:23.01\00:26:24.01
both to will and to
do for his good pleasure.
00:26:24.05\00:26:26.51
So we would encourage you today.
00:26:26.55\00:26:28.42
Take hold of the hand of God.
00:26:28.45\00:26:29.72
If you're looking
at losing some pounds,
00:26:29.75\00:26:31.59
if you're looking
at getting active,
00:26:31.62\00:26:32.95
if you're dealing
with a lifestyle condition
00:26:32.99\00:26:35.02
that you know could
be remedied or reversed,
00:26:35.06\00:26:38.76
simply by making
some simple changes.
00:26:38.79\00:26:40.76
If you've never
been able to make them,
00:26:40.80\00:26:42.10
you can go to God
in prayer and say,
00:26:42.13\00:26:44.13
“This is what I need.
00:26:44.17\00:26:46.80
I am willing.
00:26:46.84\00:26:48.34
Work in my life.”
00:26:48.37\00:26:49.47
And Jesus says, “Ask
and it shall be given.
00:26:49.50\00:26:53.94
Seek and you shall find.”
00:26:53.98\00:26:55.84
So, if you have the
knowledge in your head,
00:26:55.88\00:26:59.65
Christ in your heart,
00:26:59.68\00:27:01.58
it seems to me like
you've got everything you need.
00:27:01.62\00:27:03.75
>>Dr. DeRose: You do.
00:27:03.79\00:27:04.62
And, uh, all His
biddings are enablings.
00:27:04.65\00:27:07.19
God will give you the
power to make the changes
00:27:07.22\00:27:09.32
He impresses you to make.
00:27:09.36\00:27:11.36
>>John: We both know that
God wants the very best for us.
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But at times that
can be a challenge.
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What do you do about obesity?
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How do you get your weight
to where you want it to be,
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God wants it to be,
00:27:22.00\00:27:23.41
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>>John: Dr. David DeRose,
thanks for joining me today.
00:28:12.92\00:28:15.06
This has been fun.
00:28:15.09\00:28:15.72
I appreciate it.
00:28:15.76\00:28:16.76
>>Dr. DeRose: Been
great to be with you, John.
00:28:16.79\00:28:17.86
>>John: I'm thankful
for the practical advice
00:28:17.89\00:28:19.93
that you're giving people.
00:28:19.96\00:28:20.86
And, uh, just
quickly, one or two words,
00:28:20.90\00:28:24.37
what will you say to that person
00:28:24.40\00:28:25.53
wanting to do
something about obesity?
00:28:25.57\00:28:27.24
>>Dr. DeRose: Go for it.
00:28:27.27\00:28:28.10
>>John: Go for it.
00:28:28.14\00:28:29.00
Go for it.
00:28:29.04\00:28:29.97
Well, let's pray
together, can we do that?
00:28:30.01\00:28:31.27
Let's pray now.
00:28:31.31\00:28:32.71
Our Father in Heaven,
00:28:32.74\00:28:33.68
we thank you that in
Jesus we can go for it,
00:28:33.71\00:28:37.21
knowing that you are with us.
00:28:37.25\00:28:38.55
You haven't called us to fail.
00:28:38.58\00:28:39.75
You haven't
called us to stumble.
00:28:39.78\00:28:41.42
You've called us to victory
and success and deliverance.
00:28:41.45\00:28:46.96
Lord, I know that
you want to dwell in us.
00:28:46.99\00:28:50.39
We are, our bodies are the
temple of your Holy Spirit.
00:28:50.43\00:28:54.83
So come, Father, and bring
your Holy Spirit's presence.
00:28:54.86\00:28:58.53
Uh, if we're week,
seems to me that's okay,
00:28:58.57\00:29:01.27
because you told
Paul that your strength
00:29:01.30\00:29:03.20
is made perfect in weakness.
00:29:03.24\00:29:06.31
Unite our frailty to your might,
00:29:06.34\00:29:08.98
our weakness to your strength,
00:29:09.01\00:29:10.98
our failure to your success.
00:29:11.01\00:29:13.55
And in Jesus
allow us to be delivered
00:29:13.58\00:29:16.15
from all the things
that you know are harmful
00:29:16.18\00:29:19.35
to us
physically and spiritually.
00:29:19.39\00:29:22.19
We thank you today,
00:29:22.22\00:29:22.89
and we pray in Jesus' name,
00:29:22.92\00:29:25.66
Amen.
00:29:25.69\00:29:27.23
Thanks so much
for joining me today.
00:29:27.30\00:29:28.73
I'm looking forward to
seeing you again next time.
00:29:28.76\00:29:31.13
Until then, remember:
00:29:31.17\00:29:33.13
It Is Written.
00:29:33.17\00:29:34.64
Man shall not
live by bread alone,
00:29:34.67\00:29:37.17
but by every word that
proceeds from the mouth of God.
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