[Music] JB: Thanks
for joining me today.
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I'm John Bradshaw and
this is It Is Written.
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You know, it is said that
you are what you eat; but if you
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survey the population as a
whole, you find out that a whole
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lot of people are ...
sick, and could it be that many
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people are sick today
because they are what they eat.
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Now, why does this even matter
on a Bible discussion program
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such as It Is Written?
Well, I'll tell you why.
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Jesus said He came into this
world so that we might have life
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and that we might
live it more abundantly.
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But in the midst of
an obesity epidemic,
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an increasing--
radically increasing--
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incidence of things
such as diabetes and other
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lifestyle
illnesses, it doesn't look like
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a lot of people are
enjoying a more abundant life,
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but instead a
less abundant life.
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Let's see if we can get to the
bottom of this today and find
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out how we can enjoy
the more abundant life
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that Jesus offers to us.
I'm being joined today by my
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guest, Dr. David DeRose,
a specialist in the areas of
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internal medicine
and preventive medicine.
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We'll talk about
that today, big-time.
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Dr. DeRose comes to us
from Compass Health Consulting
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in Northern California.
Thanks for joining me today,
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David. I'm glad you're here.
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DD: It's great to
be with you, John.
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JB: So it's true,
you are what you eat.
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Yeah, you've got to be careful
but what we eat impacts us
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in a massive way. DD: Literally,
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we are what we eat.
The elements that make up
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our bodies are those
very things that we ingested--
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or that our mother ingested.
JB: Somebody mentioned this to
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me recently, and I think a lot
of people are really surprised
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by this. Your blood is made from
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what you eat; what
you put into your body.
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What you put in actually,
literally, physically becomes
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part of who you
are. Correct or not?
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DD: That's right.
It's not just your blood,
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it's every single
cell of your body.
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I mean, those are the raw
materials that make up the body.
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They have to
come from somewhere.
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They don't just
come out of the air,
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although
oxygen, of course, does.
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But we actually need to
eat in order to make every cell
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in our body. JB:
So, as cells are being
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regenerated, rejuvenated,
repaired, it all comes back to
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the fact they are being
made from-- what we are is being
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made from-- what we
put in. DD: That's right.
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And some of those cells
are turning over very rapidly.
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You mentioned
the red blood cells.
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They turn over about every three
months, about a hundred-day
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lifespan for the red blood cell.
And although some things are
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recycled-- like the
iron in the red blood cell,
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that's largely
recycled-- but other things we
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need to ingest in order to make
those new cellular components.
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JB: You know, it seems to me,
if we are being regenerated at
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a cellular level by the things
that we put into our bodies,
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wouldn't just knowing that make
you stop and say, well, I need
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to be putting in good stuff
to make good cells or red blood
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cells or whatever. DD:
One of my favorite texts
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when we speak
about this topic actually
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is in the book of
Genesis. JB: All right.
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DD: Because there God is
creating a perfect world.
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And in Genesis 1-- JB:
Right at the beginning.
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DD: That's right,
right at the beginning.
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First chapter of the Bible, you
go down to verse 29 and you see
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that God has a specific
plan, as far as our nutritional
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program. God said,
"See, I have given you
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every herb that yields seed
which is on the face of all the
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earth and every tree
whose fruit yields seed,
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to you it shall be for
food." God is giving mankind,
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humankind, a vegetarian
diet in the very beginning.
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And what we find today, John,
is the optimal diet to avoid
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most of these chronic diseases
that we're talking about
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is a diet that focuses
on those whole plant foods.
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JB: Okay, but
also, later on, God said,
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"Take the Passover
lamb"-- DD: No question.
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JB: And then made out
of kale and all of that--
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DD: You've got it.
JB: Well, they eat grass.
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DD: That's right. JB:
Take the Passover lamb
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and eat that. That's not a--
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it may have been
a vegetarian lamb,
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but people who eat
lambs aren't vegetarians.
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So, what was
God doing back here.
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Eat these things that don't have
mothers or faces; and over here,
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go ahead and eat
meat. DD: And you could even
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take that a step further.
When Jesus fed the multitude,
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He didn't just give them bread,
which is a vegetarian product.
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He gave them--
JB: Bread and fish.
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DD: That's right.
JB: So, are we seeing
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a contradiction here? DD:
What I find so interesting,
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John. It's an
excellent question.
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God meets people
where they're at.
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God's first concern-- as I read
the Bible as both a physician
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and as a Bible student--
His first concern has always
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been our spiritual health
and our relationship with Him.
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But you see this theme
running throughout the Bible.
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When God wants to give people
an optimal diet, whether it's in
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Genesis or in their wilderness
wanderings, God does not give
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them animal products.
There was no raining of quail
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until the people
demanded it, if you will.
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JB: And then when
they ate the quail,
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they became sick from
eating it. DD: Yeah, at least
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the second time around.
JB: So in the wilderness,
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God gave them a type of
food that matched up with what
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we find in Genesis
chapter 1. DD: Exactly.
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So, here's the
interesting thing, though.
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Let's talk about some of the
things we want to avoid today,
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and it really
brings out this dialogue.
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The lamb of Jesus'
day; the fish of Jesus' day.
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They didn't have one of the big
problems that we're dealing with
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today, and that is an
accumulation of toxins
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in their tissues.
Today, a huge issue is our
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contaminated environment.
And some of the things that are
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contaminating our
environment are heavy metals.
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Things like mercury or
cadmium. Things like toxins.
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Toxins like DDT,
and it's metabolized.
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You say, "Well, we
don't use that anymore."
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But it's still
in the environment.
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Lead-- still in the environment.
What happens is, if you look at
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living creatures, the higher
up you move on the food chain,
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the greater the
concentration of those toxins.
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Roughly speaking,
about a tenfold increase,
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every level you go up.
You take the phytoplankton,
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living in the water.
Those waters are contaminated.
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They have a concentration
of a toxin in their tissue.
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Then you look at the small
fish that eat the phytoplankton.
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Roughly about 10 times as much
of that toxin will be in their
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tissue, gram for gram.
You go to the bigger fish
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that eats the smaller fish.
Now you've got a hundred times
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what was in that phytoplankton.
When you get up to things
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very high on the food chain,
like the birds of prey, you can
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understand why the California
condor was dying out, before we
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started to get serious about
controlling the environment.
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It doesn't mean all the toxins
are gone, but the point is,
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those foods that in Jesus'
day, we would say would be
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good sources.
People living on the shores
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of the Sea of Galilee.
Jesus wouldn't reasonably
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say you can't have fish;
that was a staple in their diet.
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But a much healthier choice
back then than it is today.
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JB: It's true that you are what
you eat, and you want to live a
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long, happy,
abundant, healthy life.
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The longer and healthier you can
live, the better quality of life
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you can have, on
balance, and the more
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you can glorify God.
So, if you are what you eat,
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what are you eating?
We'll find out more with
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Dr. David DeRose
in just a moment.
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JB: I was eating the other day,
as you do, when it occurred to
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me again that I'd have to eat
again in just five hours or so.
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We eat, and then we
have to eat some more.
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We're dependent on
that food, that fuel.
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God didn't have to design us
that way, but it seems He might
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have done so to try to
get us to remember something.
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Just as you are dependent on
constant, regular nourishment to
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get through life, you're
dependent on the grace of God
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to get you through each day.
We ought to be leaning on God
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and feeding on His
Word for spiritual strength,
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just as we feed on
food for physical strength.
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Some of us are guilty of eating
a little too much and guilty
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of feeding on the
Bible a little too little.
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In John 6, verse 48, Jesus
said, "I am the bread of life."
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I want to encourage
you today to eat well.
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JB: This is It Is
Written. I'm John Bradshaw.
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Thank you for joining me today.
And we are being joined by
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Dr. David DeRose from
Compass Health Consultants
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in Northern California.
Dr. DeRose, today we're talking
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about what people
eat. That old saying,
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you are what you
eat. And a moment ago,
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we were starting to talk
about foods that are a little
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higher up the food
chain. The higher up you go, the
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greater the concentration of
toxins, and perhaps poisons and
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heavy metals in those
foods. The bigger foods,
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more than the smaller. In
the beginning God gave the
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human family, without
a doubt, a vegetarian,
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a plant-based diet. Then
later He said, well, okay,
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you certainly may eat
some of this or some of that.
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He never did say
you'll be better for it.
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And you notice too, that when
animals entered the menu was
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at the same time that people
started living dramatically
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shorter lives.
DD: Very interesting.
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Very interesting. JB: Yeah.
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Clean and unclean food.
It's certainly biblical,
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but is it valid today
and is it just for the Jews?
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DD: Well, first of all,
the distinction of clean
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and unclean animals and
today's ever being a Jew.
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If you read the account of
the flood, that great deluge,
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Noah was instructed about the
animals, and there were clean
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and unclean that were
identified in that account.
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So it's not something that
God added just for the benefit
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of the Jews. JB: In
Genesis 7, in verse 2,
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"Of every clean beast thou
shalt take to thee by sevens,
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the male and the female,
and of the beasts that are
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not clean by two,
the male and his female."
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God identifying clean and
unclean animals before there was
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even a Jew on the
planet. DD: And many have said,
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"Well, why?" Well,
we see there's sacrifice
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after the flood, but there was
also going to be apparently a
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necessity to eat some of those
animals after all the vegetation
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was essentially
wiped off the earth.
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JB: And if you ate
one of the unclean,
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you'd go from two to one.
The species would be gone.
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DD: And so the very point
about how many were taken on was
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making a powerful, powerful
statement about what were
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sacrificial and potentially
permissible animals to eat--
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only those that were clean.
JB: Is there health benefits to
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abstaining from these
animals that are called unclean?
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DD: No question. Now,
you've identified some
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animals, like the
horse and the rabbit,
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that are largely vegetarian.
So they'd be lower on the food
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chain, if you will. But
many of the animals that
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are excluded-- you read
a description, for example,
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in Leviticus 11 of what
those unclean animals are--
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and you'll find the
scavengers, like you mentioned.
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The pigs, the
crustacea of the ocean.
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You'll also find things that
are very high on the food chain,
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like the birds of
prey. All of those things
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were off limits. We know today,
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the technical term is
called "biomagnification."
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What that means is, like we were
expressing earlier in the show,
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if you eat things that are low
on the food chain-- those small,
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little fish-- they're going
to have low levels of toxins
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and contaminants. As
you move up the level,
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you will get higher and
higher levels of toxins.
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JB: When you think about
something like a shellfish,
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you can say, well, if God
didn't intend for us to eat it,
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why did He make
it? And the shellfish
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is a classic example.
They've shown this in places
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such as the Chesapeake Bay.
When you introduce shellfish,
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they filter the water.
They take out the toxins and
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return the good water
back into the ecosystem.
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So, thank God that we have them,
but imagine when you're eating
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that, you're
eating all those toxins.
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DD: And this brings up a whole
other point: many transmittable
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diseases are traced
to these unclean foods.
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You mentioned pork earlier;
you mentioned shellfish.
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Pork is a classic example.
Our Centers for Disease Control
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in the United States
speak about neglected parasitic
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diseases that are
not on the radar screen.
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One of them is
cysticercosis. It actually comes
00:14:35.10\00:14:38.91
from the pork
tapeworm. And this can cause
00:14:38.91\00:14:42.31
serious illness.
It's actually-- John,
00:14:42.31\00:14:45.01
this may be surprising to
you-- one of the leading causes,
00:14:45.01\00:14:48.25
if not the leading
cause, of epilepsy worldwide,
00:14:48.25\00:14:52.35
is from the pork
tapeworm. Something called
00:14:52.35\00:14:54.39
neurocysticercosis.
Cysts that actually invade the
00:14:54.39\00:14:59.03
brain and are a leading
cause of seizure worldwide.
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As I read through the Bible,
I find it fascinating that when
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Jesus was
resurrected, in Luke 24,
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we read those stories of Jesus'
encounter with the disciples.
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Or on the Emmaus Road.
Jesus points them back to the
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Old Testament. Many
of my Christian friends
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think the Old Testament
is a book that's just to be
00:15:16.75\00:15:19.48
set aside. Jesus
wanted their faith
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anchored in the Old Testament.
Now, he was especially
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referring to the
prophecies that spoke of Him.
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But what's interesting to me as
a physician is-- I don't know of
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any example where God gave a
ceremonial law that didn't have
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some significant health
connections that persist today.
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Well, we're speaking about these
so-called ceremonial health
00:15:42.17\00:15:44.27
laws. In other words,
00:15:44.27\00:15:45.97
God didn't tell them to
avoid unclean foods just
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to each some spiritual
lesson; there was sound health
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information there.
We could talk about
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circumcision, or how the
Jews were able to be clean after
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contact with death.
All of these things have
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valid health principles.
But you don't have to sacrifice
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a red heifer today.
Do you see my point?
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JB: Absolutely, but bring them
back to this, because someone's
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saying, "Oh, look, this is well
and good, but those guys are off
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base, because that was just a
ceremony, and when Jesus died,
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none of that mattered anymore."
DD: Let me go to this example.
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Maybe we should
turn in our Bibles to it.
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I'm turning to
the book of Numbers.
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It's a fascinating example.
I'm going to Numbers chapter 19,
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and in Numbers 19 we read
these laws of purification.
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This is the "red
heifer sacrifice."
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Any Christian who's studied this
realizes that the red heifer was
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symbolizing Jesus.
He was the sinless one
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who was killed outside the camp.
Today, you and I, as Christians,
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don't need to
sacrifice a red heifer.
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Jesus IS our
all-sufficient sacrifice.
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JB: Right. DD: But
if you read through
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Numbers 19, you find that
embedded in that red heifer
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sacrifice and its aftermath
were restrictions and laws for
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scrupulous cleanliness
after contact with death.
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Because the Christian world
set that aside for decades and
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centuries, we had in the
1800s, in Europe, for example,
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epidemics of childbirth fever.
Ignaz Semmelweis, the famous
00:17:19.80\00:17:24.74
Austrian physician who brought
this to the fore, he realized
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that women were dying.
One in six women or more were
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dying in childbirth, in the
main hospital there in Vienna,
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because doctors would examine
the dead women and then they'd
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go and examine the living women.
They were transmitting disease.
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If they'd followed the
principles of Numbers 19,
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this would never have happened.
JB: Important principles
00:17:47.66\00:17:50.70
because, after all,
you are what you eat.
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And, if we made simple, small
changes in the area of what we
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eat, we would see big results
in our physical health and
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certainly in our
spiritual health as well.
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Now, in just a moment, I'm
going to tell you what this is.
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And you will be
amazed, when you discover
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just what you're eating.
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Back with more, straight ahead.
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JB: Thanks for joining
me today on It Is Written.
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You know that it is said so
often that you are what you eat,
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and if that's the case, then
we are sick because we're eating
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food that makes us
sick. Dr. David DeRose
00:20:04.37\00:20:07.37
is joining me today. I
want to ask you, Dr. DeRose,
00:20:07.37\00:20:10.94
where are the problems?
What are the problem areas
00:20:10.94\00:20:14.04
in what we eat? DD:
Well, if we want to speak
00:20:14.04\00:20:16.58
physiologically, one
of the big ones is fat.
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And the reason I say
physiologically is your cell
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membrane is made up of
fat, among other things.
00:20:23.08\00:20:27.39
The type of fat you
eat will affect how fluid
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that membrane is. You say, well,
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what difference does that make?
It's because the cell membrane
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is where the action
takes place. In your brain,
00:20:35.90\00:20:39.50
the neurotransmitters,
the brain chemicals,
00:20:39.50\00:20:42.20
interact with other
membranes. What happens is,
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if you're eating more
of the saturated fats,
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more of the trans fats,
these two categories of fats,
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they make the cell membranes
more rigid and make nerve
00:20:53.62\00:20:57.05
transmission more difficult.
They make insulin signaling
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worse, and so they lay
the foundation for diabetes.
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So it's not just a
question of amount of fat,
00:21:04.09\00:21:06.59
but what kind of fat.
Those saturated fats primarily
00:21:06.59\00:21:09.66
in animal products;
trans fats in those partially
00:21:09.66\00:21:12.70
hydrogenated vegetable
oils. JB: Good fats, avocado;
00:21:12.70\00:21:15.94
good fats in nuts.
Those are good fats, right?
00:21:15.94\00:21:18.17
DD: Very interesting.
Back in the '90s, people were
00:21:18.17\00:21:21.38
lumping all these
together. They were saying nuts
00:21:21.38\00:21:24.15
were bad for you. At
least many people in the
00:21:24.15\00:21:25.88
preventive medicine community.
But then in the '90s is when
00:21:25.88\00:21:30.39
researchers at Loma Linda
University came out with some of
00:21:30.39\00:21:32.92
the early studies
showing that nuts had powerful,
00:21:32.92\00:21:36.59
heart-preventive properties,
and that started to swing the
00:21:36.59\00:21:40.13
pendulum in the other
direction. JB: But the bad fats
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are no good. I want
to show you something
00:21:41.93\00:21:43.43
when it comes to fat.
Each time you eat that
00:21:43.43\00:21:46.70
well-known burger from
that well-known burger chain,
00:21:46.70\00:21:50.07
you're getting that much
fat. Dr. DeRose, what does
00:21:50.07\00:21:52.91
the body do with this much
fat? DD: That's saturated fat,
00:21:52.91\00:21:56.58
largely
saturated. That animal fat.
00:21:56.58\00:21:58.85
JB: Right. DD: What happens is,
00:21:58.85\00:22:00.25
first of all the blood
becomes what we call lipemic.
00:22:00.25\00:22:02.42
When you eat that fat, it
goes into the blood stream
00:22:02.42\00:22:05.42
and that actually affects
the fluidity of the blood.
00:22:05.42\00:22:08.56
But then it has that
impact, that long-term impact,
00:22:08.56\00:22:11.56
on the cell membranes,
and actually it's setting
00:22:11.56\00:22:14.36
the stage for many
of the diseases that we
00:22:14.36\00:22:16.70
experience today.
JB: But this is how much
00:22:16.70\00:22:18.60
fat there is in a candy
bar. Take a look at this,
00:22:18.60\00:22:20.70
typical candy bar. A small one.
00:22:20.70\00:22:22.94
And this is how much
fat there is in a reasonably
00:22:22.94\00:22:26.27
small bag of potato
chips. DD: We've cultivated,
00:22:26.27\00:22:29.54
as a society, a desire
for higher saturated fat.
00:22:29.54\00:22:34.28
Higher sugar. Higher salt.
00:22:34.28\00:22:36.52
With the
research shows us though--
00:22:36.52\00:22:38.39
let's talk about
fat-- as you get away from
00:22:38.39\00:22:40.76
that high fat
consumption, your tastes change.
00:22:40.76\00:22:44.93
Big study, interventional
study in women with cancer.
00:22:44.93\00:22:48.06
Breast cancer.
Decreasing their fat
00:22:48.06\00:22:50.43
consumption-- when they did the
pilot study, over the course of
00:22:50.43\00:22:52.53
the year, they found the women
that cut their fat dramatically,
00:22:52.53\00:22:56.14
they tended to develop a
distaste for the high fat foods
00:22:56.14\00:23:00.94
that they used to enjoy.
JB: And this is how much sugar
00:23:00.94\00:23:03.48
there is, in a can of soda. Ah!
00:23:03.48\00:23:06.88
Stop and think. I
mean, I wouldn't take
00:23:06.88\00:23:09.75
the top off this and chug
this much raw sugar, ever.
00:23:09.75\00:23:13.29
You just
wouldn't do it. But you do
00:23:13.29\00:23:15.26
when you buy a can of soda
and pour that down your throat.
00:23:15.26\00:23:17.76
DD: And the data really suggests
this is one of the things,
00:23:17.76\00:23:20.56
the sugar-sweetened beverages,
that are fueling the epidemic
00:23:20.56\00:23:24.37
of obesity our country, John.
JB: This is how much there is in
00:23:24.37\00:23:27.14
a cup of ice cream.
That's a lot of sugar.
00:23:27.14\00:23:28.94
DD: And you add the fat to
that equation, in those foods.
00:23:28.94\00:23:31.71
And many of those same foods
that are high in fat and high in
00:23:31.71\00:23:34.04
sugar often are high in
salt. Did you know, for example,
00:23:34.04\00:23:37.31
that you can put a lot
more salt in a food if it's got
00:23:37.31\00:23:40.12
a lot of sugar in it,
and not even taste salty?
00:23:40.12\00:23:42.75
JB: Okay, you'd better go
off the ice cream and onto the
00:23:42.75\00:23:45.65
brownies, because, whereas this
was as much sugar in a cup of
00:23:45.65\00:23:50.59
ice cream, the one on
this end here is as much sugar
00:23:50.59\00:23:53.80
as there is in a brownie.
A two-inch-square brownie.
00:23:53.80\00:23:56.80
DD: And who sticks with
a two-inch-square brownie?
00:23:56.80\00:23:59.10
JB: Oh, no, it's not good
until you've had two or three.
00:23:59.10\00:24:01.54
And when it comes to sugars, you
can find in some food products
00:24:01.54\00:24:04.64
2-3-4-5 different sugars, right?
There'll be sugar, corn syrup,
00:24:04.64\00:24:08.24
high fructose corn syrup,
any number of other sweeteners
00:24:08.24\00:24:11.81
that are in one food item.
DD: And the reason why some
00:24:11.81\00:24:14.55
manufacturers apparently do this
is you have to list ingredients
00:24:14.55\00:24:18.62
in order of their
prevalence in the product.
00:24:18.62\00:24:21.52
So, even though sugar in
its various forms may be the
00:24:21.52\00:24:26.16
top ingredient, if you put five
different sweeteners in there,
00:24:26.16\00:24:29.86
you may be able to put the whole
wheat first, even though it's
00:24:29.86\00:24:32.60
only 10 percent whole
wheat and 40 percent sugar.
00:24:32.60\00:24:35.37
JB: Now, are there any sugars
that are really pretty good
00:24:35.37\00:24:37.34
for you? Because
there's debates about
00:24:37.34\00:24:39.44
high fructose corn syrup, and
you read "cane sugar" or "dried
00:24:39.44\00:24:45.25
cane sugar" or whatever.
Can I look at that and go, oh,
00:24:45.25\00:24:47.95
it's got that
sugar; that's good for me?
00:24:47.95\00:24:49.55
DD: The sweet things we
were designed to enjoy are the
00:24:49.55\00:24:52.25
fruits, the sweet vegetables,
things of this nature.
00:24:52.25\00:24:55.56
If you're getting
those whole foods in nature,
00:24:55.56\00:24:58.46
you can have those
things satisfy the sweet tooth.
00:24:58.46\00:25:01.56
No, it's not going to taste
like the brownie or the ice
00:25:01.56\00:25:03.26
cream-- not at first.
But if you stick with eating
00:25:03.26\00:25:05.80
those healthy sweets that
God provided, in Genesis 1,
00:25:05.80\00:25:10.37
you will find a distaste
tends to develop for those
00:25:10.37\00:25:13.94
artificially sweetened things.
Whether it's "natural sugar"
00:25:13.94\00:25:17.68
that's being used to sweeten
it or some artificial sweetener.
00:25:17.68\00:25:21.25
JB: Man, if you get some of
those good dates, those medjool
00:25:21.25\00:25:24.35
dates they grow in
Indio, California, around there.
00:25:24.35\00:25:28.12
Oh, they're
sweet and they're good.
00:25:28.12\00:25:31.03
DD: In moderation, of
course. JB: In moderation.
00:25:31.03\00:25:33.63
Some Americans are
eating this much salt.
00:25:33.63\00:25:37.53
Two and a half
teaspoons of salt in a day.
00:25:37.53\00:25:39.90
Many. It is
said that the average
00:25:39.90\00:25:43.07
American is consuming
maybe about this much.
00:25:43.07\00:25:46.41
Maybe about this much.
DD: One and a half teaspoons.
00:25:46.41\00:25:49.54
JB: Whereas, what we should be
consuming is merely this much.
00:25:49.54\00:25:55.28
A teaspoon of salt
a day, and no more.
00:25:55.28\00:25:58.29
DD: No. And
actually, although people
00:25:58.29\00:26:00.56
have tried to downplay the
relationship between salt and
00:26:00.56\00:26:03.36
disease, a major study in the
New England Journal of Medicine
00:26:03.36\00:26:06.46
back in 2010 actually looked
at all the data, and how many
00:26:06.46\00:26:10.37
people in America are
dying because of just having a
00:26:10.37\00:26:14.14
half-teaspoon
of salt more a day.
00:26:14.14\00:26:17.51
In other words, if we
were to decrease-- all of us,
00:26:17.51\00:26:19.71
across the board--
decrease our sodium
00:26:19.71\00:26:21.84
consumption, salt consumption,
by just half a teaspoon,
00:26:21.84\00:26:25.65
we would save tens of thousands
of lives from things like
00:26:25.65\00:26:28.72
stroke and heart attack.
JB: From a biblical point of
00:26:28.72\00:26:31.39
view, why we're driving at this
is because Jesus wants us to
00:26:31.39\00:26:33.62
have a more abundant
life. And you say to yourself,
00:26:33.62\00:26:36.62
well, yeah, I'm
drinking three sodas a day.
00:26:36.62\00:26:39.89
And I know people who carry
around the Big Gulp things.
00:26:39.89\00:26:44.13
They carry them with
them, everywhere they go.
00:26:44.13\00:26:46.00
I don't know how
much they're getting--
00:26:46.00\00:26:47.50
it's got to be killing them.
Or you say, well, yeah, I'm
00:26:47.50\00:26:50.21
eating lots of ice cream and all
of that sugar that comes with
00:26:50.21\00:26:53.04
it, and I'm getting
the brownies and whatever.
00:26:53.04\00:26:56.01
What you're
advocating, when you say
00:26:56.01\00:26:57.98
decreasing the amount of salt,
you're not saying eat no salt,
00:26:57.98\00:27:02.12
eat no sweet
stuff; eat zero fat.
00:27:02.12\00:27:06.29
Just make a little change
here. Eat moderate amounts.
00:27:06.29\00:27:10.09
Get more of the good and less of
the bad, and perhaps start the
00:27:10.09\00:27:14.00
change incrementally. I
mean, it would be ideal for
00:27:14.00\00:27:16.50
somebody to go cold turkey,
off the bad and onto the good.
00:27:16.50\00:27:19.30
It doesn't always
work that way for people.
00:27:19.30\00:27:21.00
But small changes
can bring big results.
00:27:21.00\00:27:24.01
DD: They can be powerful,
and yet, the most powerful
00:27:24.01\00:27:27.01
things to actually reeducate
your taste are larger changes.
00:27:27.01\00:27:31.71
JB: There is hope
for you. And for me.
00:27:31.71\00:27:34.12
And I'm glad, because Jesus not
only wants to give us the more
00:27:34.12\00:27:38.35
abundant life, but
it is through Jesus--
00:27:38.35\00:27:40.92
through the power
of the Holy Spirit--
00:27:40.92\00:27:42.66
that we can get from
where we are, if perhaps
00:27:42.66\00:27:44.69
we're living an unhealthy life.
And with the power of God we
00:27:44.69\00:27:47.76
can put down some of the stuff
that's simply killing us, and
00:27:47.76\00:27:51.23
take up the sorts of things
that will enhance our lives,
00:27:51.23\00:27:54.67
increase our lifespan,
and give us a more productive,
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quality life while we're
living here on this earth.
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Our time here on this earth is
so short, we ought to be making
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the best of it, not
ruining it. DD: Most definitely.
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JB: Our time on this program
is short, too, Dr. DeRose.
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Thanks for joining me
today. This has been a blessing.
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DD: It's always
good to be with you.
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JB: And thank
you for joining me.
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I want you to be
encouraged today.
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Why did Jesus come?
So that we might live.
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How does He want us to
live? A more abundant life.
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That's what He offers you today.
Why don't we pray together?
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Ask God for that life,
and thank Him for it as well.
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Let's pray. ¤ [Gentle Music]
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Our Father in heaven, we
are grateful that Your thoughts
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toward us are for
good. We are thankful
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that it's through
Jesus, through Your power,
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with Your help, that we
can have a more abundant life.
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I am thankful today that with
your help we can be the sorts of
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people you want us to
be, and live the kind of life
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you want us to live.
Lord, where we need help,
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give us that help;
where we simply cannot do
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in us what You want to see done.
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We thank You today and we praise
You, and we claim the more
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abundant life in Jesus.
And we pray in Jesus' name.
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Amen. DD: Amen.
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¤ [Music rings out]
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JB: I'm so glad
you've joined me today,
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and I look forward to
seeing you again next time.
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Until then,
remember: It is written,
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man shall not
live by bread alone,
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but by every word that proceeds
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from the mouth of God.
¤ [It Is Written Theme]
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