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[male narrator] It has stood
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the test of time,
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Still relevant in
today's complex world.
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It Is Written.
Sharing hope around the globe.
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This is It Is Written.
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I'm John Bradshaw.
Thanks for joining me today.
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My guest today
is Dr. Neil Nedley,
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the president of
Nedley Health Solutions.
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Dr. Nedley, thanks
for joining me today.
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Neil Nedley: Thank
you. Great to be here.
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JB: We've spoken a
number of times on this program.
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It's always a
blessing to have you here.
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I'm grateful that you're willing
to take heavy topics head on,
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and tell us not maybe
what we always want to hear,
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but certainly according to
the Bible and good science,
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what we need to hear. NN: Yes.
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JB: And today we're going
to visit the subject of cancer.
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And here's why. Um, our health,
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our physical health,
our emotional health,
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our mental health, is all
very important in and of itself.
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But also very important as it
relates to our spiritual health.
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NN: Um-hum. JB:
There's that old saying,
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healthy body, healthy mind.
Well, truth be told, when it
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comes to our relationship
with God, there's a whole lot of
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truth in that.
What's our immune system?
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How does it work? NN:
Our immune system is there
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to detect foreign
invaders that are harmful to us.
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Or to detect abnormal cells
that, uh, are not really our own
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good cells and to destroy them.
JB: Now, cancer cells are those
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abnormal cells. Why
doesn't our immune system
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just see them and
[snap] take them out?
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NN: Well, uh, often
because they look pretty similar
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to the original. JB:
You mean you're saying that
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the immune system sometimes just
doesn't recognize cancer cells?
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NN: That's right. Exactly.
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And so it will leave it alone
thinking that it's actually a
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normal cell. JB: Okay.
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Now, are all immune systems
created, well, I suppose they're
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created equal, but to you and
I, or me and the guy next door,
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do we have essentially the
same immune system or is one up
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and one down? NN:
No, one can be up and one
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can be down in
accordance with our lifestyle.
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So, what we're putting into our
bodies, what we're doing with
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our bodies, is either enhancing
our immune system or actually
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making it less effective.
JB: Well, we want to have a more
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effective immune
system. NN: Correct.
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JB: How can we have
that? NN: Well, uh, by paying
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attention to what
we're putting into our body.
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JB: Okay. Food, drink.
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NN: Food, drink, yes. And
even important vitamins like
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vitamin D. Uh, and A, C and E.
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And, uh, and
those sorts of things.
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JB: Share with me what science
says makes for a good immune
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system? List,
list off some of the
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foods we want.
NN: The foods high in
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antioxidants. So,
your berries in particular.
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Raspberry,
blackberries, blueberries.
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JB: That's good. NN:
Uh, you know, strawberries
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very good. Even red
grapes are very good.
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Kiwi, uh. JB: Very good.
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NN: Yeah. Cherries are actually
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good antioxidant
fruits. JB: Isn't it interesting
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that God made,
these are the fun foods.
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NN: Yeah. JB: You know.
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Who doesn't want to sit
down with a, with a plate of
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blueberries or
raspberries or strawberries,
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something like that? NN: Right.
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And fruit particularly decreases
the risk of, uh, of lung cancer.
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One of the most common
cancers. JB: Fruit in general?
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NN: Yes. The more fruit.
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JB: I like that. NN:
Even, uh, not only among
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smokers, but also non-smokers,
the study in southern California
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on Seventh-Day Adventists showed
that non-smokers can get lung
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cancer, but they only get it
about 20% as likely if they're
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on a high fruit diet. So,
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it's important. Yeah. JB:
So, these, the antioxidant
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foods, whenever we talk about
foods that are good for your
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health, it seems as though leafy
greens are always up there.
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Leafy green vegetables have
a positive impact on our immune
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system? NN: They do.
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Yup. Spinach, kale,
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great antioxidants,
garlic, onion, beets.
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JB: All right,
not bad. NN: Yeah.
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JB: All right. I think we can,
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we can handle that. NN: Yeah.
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Good foods. JB:
Then here's a good thing.
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I want you to notice
this. When you're talking about
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looking after your immune
system, this isn't onerous or
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hard or awful or
awkward. You know what it sounds
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a lot like? It sounds
a lot like the kind of
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stuff grandma used to eat.
And when I say grandma, I mean,
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my wife's
southern American grandma.
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Black-eyed peas and crowder
peas and beans and you know.
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NN: Yeah, yeah. JB:
Food I never even heard of
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growing up on the other
side of the world, right?
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It's the sort of stuff
that grandma and her family,
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her, her brothers, they
all lived to be pretty old.
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NN: Right. JB: And
yet on the other hand,
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there were some aspects of
their diet that was a disaster.
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NN: Yeah. JB: I
wonder if the fact that
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they ate some things that
any doctor would say slow down
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about, I wonder if that was
offset by the very high amounts
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of very healthy foods. Is
there anything to that idea?
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NN: Well, yes, you
can offset it some.
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You know, for instance,
studies have shown that smokers,
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if they're on a high carotenoid
diet will only have one-third
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the risk of developing
lung cancer compared to smokers
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who are not on a good diet.
But, if you take a non-smoker
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who's not on a good diet,
his chance of lung cancer is
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only 1 out of 10 compared to
the smoker who's on a good diet.
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So, in other words,
the cigarette smoking,
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the diet does help. JB: Okay.
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NN: And all of that, the immune
system does help, but if we
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overload the system with
carcinogens, we're going to
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likely pay for
that. JB: Sure, sure.
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So, you can't say, you know,
I'm eating enough carotenoids.
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The carotenoid foods are the
yellows and the oranges, right?
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NN: Correct. JB:
Whatever is yellow and
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orange, that's good
for you. NN: That's right.
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JB: Yeah, that's good to know.
So, we can optimize our immune
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system by eating well, I'm going
to guess by, by sleeping well?
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NN: Getting enough
sleep, that's right.,
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JB: Exercise. NN: Exercise.
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Particularly aerobic exercise,
becoming fit is going to enhance
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your immune system. JB:
And you said vitamins A, C,
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E, and D. NN: Yes.
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Vitamin D it turns out is
the most crucial, if we were to
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weigh them against each other,
vitamin D actually prevents more
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cancers than A,
C, and E combined.
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JB: Combined. NN: Yeah.
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JB: Okay, we need the D.
What's, where do I find the
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vitamin D? NN: The sun.
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JB: Okay. Now
somebody like me with very
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fair skin, I need to make sure
I'm getting just enough and not
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too much. NN: That's right.
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You need to make sure
you're not getting too much.
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But here is what a lot
of people are not aware of.
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The sun prevents far
more cancer than it causes.
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JB: Is that so? NN:
And so, if you are low in
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vitamin D and you avoid
the sunburn and thus avoid skin
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cancers, you're actually going
to have a much higher rate of
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other cancers than if you would
have gotten a little bit of
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sunburn and gotten the
benefits of the vitamin D.
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JB: I'm thinking though it's
not necessary to get sunburned
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to get enough sun. NN: It's not.
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JB: How, how much
sun is enough sun?
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Generally. And it may vary
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from person to person.
NN: Well, it depends on
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where you're at. I
know if it's a summer day in
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the South, it doesn't
take much, you know, 15 minutes
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and you're done. You've
got enough vitamin D and
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you're not going to
burn yourself in 15 minutes
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in most cases. JB: Okay.
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NN: Um, so you don't need
all that much sun exposure.
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Now, you know, if you're
above Sacramento, California
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and all the way over to Boston,
Massachusetts in the winter time
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you're not
getting any vitamin D.
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So you need to get a lot in
the summer to store it over.
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JB: And you can store it
up? NN: You can store it.
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Yeah, vitamin D is fat soluble,
so it's storable in the system.
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Uh, but, or you might need
to take vitamin D supplements.
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JB: What about folks who live
way north, up in Alaska, you
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know, where the sun barely even
pokes its head above the horizon
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for much of the year? NN: Yeah.
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They'll have very low vitamin D
levels and thus they have higher
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cancer rates. JB: They do, huh?
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NN: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Now, hopefully, they're outdoors
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in the summertime, because even
up in Alaska you can get some
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vitamin D, you know, in
midday in the summertime.
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JB: Yeah, yeah.
Back to antioxidants.
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I understand there's a school of
thought where people are saying
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antioxidants may even be
bad for you if you have cancer.
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And so, I'm going
to ask you about that.
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NN: Okay. JB: In just a moment.
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There's more to talk about today
because when it comes to cancer
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there really is hope and
you want to know what that is.
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We'll be back with
more straight ahead.
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[Gentle Music)]
"Every Word" is a one-minute
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Bible-based daily
devotional presented by Pastor
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John Bradshaw and designed
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like you. Receive a
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watch "Every
Word." [upbeat music]
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A headline I read really got my
attention - "Hungover Surgeons
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Make More Mistakes." You think?
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I never thought about a
hung-over surgeon before
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but doctors are human too
and there are enought of them
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that sooner or later one
of them's going to make a
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mistake. And
event the best doctor
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doesn't have all the answers,
but there's someone who does.
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Speaking of Jesus, Matthew 12:15
says, "Great multitudes follow
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Him, and He healed them
all." Jesus truly is the Great
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Physician. Very
often he works through the
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medical
profession to bring healing.
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Sometimes he does the miraculous
and there are times that
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physical healing doesn't come.
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That can be hard to accept,
but in those cases we can accept
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spiritual healing and know that
perfect health will be ours in
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the world to come.
Jesus is a physician that gets
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it right every time.
Let's live today by every word.
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We hear it all the
time- God is all-powerful!
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God is love! If God
is so powerful and so
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loving, why is
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JB: This is It Is Written,
thanks for joining me today.
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I'm John Bradshaw being
joined by Dr. Neil Nedley
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the president of
Nedley Health Solutions.
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Cancer, is there
hope? Why does it matter?
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This is It Is
Written, I'll tell you why.
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We were designed and
made intentionally by a loving
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creator God. He
put us on this earth
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to live long and prosper.
Yet because of sin entering the
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picture, we are beset and
dragged down and weighed down by
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all kinds of diseases and what
they do is they sap our lives in
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so many ways, and
ultimately negatively affect our
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relationship with
God. We don't want that.
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If cancer
strikes, is there hope?
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We're going to get to
that in just a moment.
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Dr. Nedley, I wanted to ask you
about antioxidants because there
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are some, and no doubt many have
heard this line of reasoning,
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antioxidants are bad
for you if you have cancer.
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Is there anything to that?
NN: Yeah, well, the theory was
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that since antioxidants protect
cells from being damaged that
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maybe they're protecting
our cancer cells from the
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chemotherapy
destroying it. JB: Okay.
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NN: And so, many oncologists,
based on theory alone, no
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science behind it other than the
theory, were advising people to
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be on a very
poor diet. JB: Oh, my.
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NN: Poor in antioxidants, while
they're on cancer treatment of
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radiation and chemo to make
sure the cancer gets destroyed.
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Well, in reality the
antioxidants protect our good
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cells and they don't
protect our bad cells.
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And so, what happens is
the longevity of people on
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antioxidants when they're on
cancer treatment is even higher
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because we want to
protect our good cells.
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And the unfortunate thing is
radiation and chemo can destroy
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some of the good cells. JB: Yes.
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NN: And that's why we can have
side effects that can be even
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deadly sometimes
from these things.
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Wherefore on a high antioxidant
program, uh, we're not going to
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protect our cancer cells
at all from these treatments.
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JB: Certainly, one
should always have faith in God.
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But what's the role for a
believer in God and somebody who
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stands on the Bible, what's
the role in their experience for
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things such as
radiation and chemotherapy?
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NN: Yeah, or maybe we could
even start out with surgery.
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I've heard it said that, hey,
you know, stay away from surgery
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because it's going
to spread your cancer.
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JB: Oh, that's wrong. NN:
And it's going to have all
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of those issues. And
sometimes I've had to
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remind these
Christians which came first,
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sin or surgery?
JB: There you go.
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NN: And often they tell me,
well, of course, sin came first.
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Actually, no.
Surgery came first and both
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patients were
satisfied with the results.
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JB: (laughs) Yes, that's
right. Explain, for somebody
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who didn't get that,
what are you referring to?
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NN: Well, actually before
surgery there was anesthesia.
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JB: There you go. God
caused Adam to fall into a
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deep sleep and he performed
a little surgical procedure
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and removed a rib and
by the time he was done
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NN: That's right.
JB: Adam was happy.
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NN: Exactly. And,
well, God can, God can
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guide the hand of
the surgeon. JB: Yes.
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NN: Um, there are,
are skilled surgeons that
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the Lord can guide in actually
taking out these tumors.
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And, no, surgery
does not increase the risk
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of the cancer spreading.
If it's confined and can be
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taken care of that
way, that's a good choice.
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JB: Some of the side effects
from chemotherapy and radiation
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can be brutal. Some can.
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So, is it a, a, a
denial of faith in God to go
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the medical route? NN: It's not.
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I'll tell you, there was a,
um, a patient of mine that had
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advanced breast cancer.
She didn't come to me until her
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breast cancer was very
advanced and it was bleeding.
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Um, just huge,
she was, you know,
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a believer, and,
um, said that, you know,
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or believed that she shouldn't
have surgery or treatment.
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She was trying all these natural
remedies and her daughter was
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putting charcoal on it and
it was now getting into some
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significant arteries
and sometimes she would have
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significant massive bleeding.
We were having to transfuse her.
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And she wouldn't be
convinced otherwise.
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Uh, and finally I came
into her and I gave her this
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illustration. I
said, there was a cancer on
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the earth, you
know, when, for instance,
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when the Amalekites first came
across the Israelites, God said,
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no, now is not the time.
But eventually they got to the
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place where if they would have
continued to exist, the cancers
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of sin that they would
have produced on this earth
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could have potentially
wiped out the entire earth.
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JB: Right. NN:
And so, the Lord said,
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get rid of them,
every last one of them.
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And in those battles
where Israel was told to fight,
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they often lost good
soldiers in those battles.
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JB: That's right. NN:
And sometimes hundreds of,
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uh, of Israelites were
killed that were good people,
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but it was for a good
cause of wiping out a cancer
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that was on the
earth. And so, as I explained
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that to her, I said,
think of chemotherapy as warring
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against your cancer
cells. Yes, it may destroy some
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good cells, but if your
cancer cells are not destroyed,
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this cancer will destroy
you. That was eight years ago.
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After that, she told her family
to all leave who were trying to
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convince her into
chemo for, you know,
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quite a long period of
time, and she sat there with me
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and wanted to fully understand
what I was saying and then she
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had me leave the room and then
30 minutes later she had us come
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and she said, I'm made my
decision, we're going to undergo
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chemotherapy. JB:
And she's alive today?
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NN: And she's alive today and
that tumor shrunk right down.
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We put her on a good other
program, with good antioxidants
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and other things to try
to help protect those cells.
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But she is eternally grateful
because she would have been in
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the grave within a
matter of weeks, um,
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had that not taken place.
JB: It's not a disavowal of
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faith in God to seek
good medical treatment.
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NN: That's right. JB:
That's not to say all chemo
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is right in all cases for
all people in all situations.
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NN: That's right. JB: Right.
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NN: Right. JB: And
if you, if you go a
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conventional medical
route under the guidance of,
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of good
physicians, that's not to say
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you can't do other things.
Because you still have faith
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in God. NN: That's right.
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JB: And still do, do natural
things that wouldn't harm your
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immune system. NN: But
we do need to understand
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that if cancer cells are
not destroyed, they will destroy
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you, and it gets down to the
point where we have to destroy
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every last one. JB: Yeah.
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NN: If there's one of
them there, it's going to start
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reproducing and within several
years it's going to actually
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come back. JB:
Cancer, is there hope?
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Why are we talking about this?
Clearly God wants us to live an
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abundant life. Cancer
affects one in two men
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and one in three
women in the United States.
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Dr. Nedley, somebody has cancer,
invasive cancer, we've spoken
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just a few moments ago about,
uh, various options, but what,
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what does a person
do, should a person,
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could a person do
when they've got it?
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NN: Well, when they've got
invasive cancer, there's good
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questions that they need
to ask their cancer doctors.
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What is, what is my likelihood
of cure with this treatment?
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What is my
likelihood of remission?
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Avail themselves of good
evidence-based treatments.
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But at the same time, they need
to see what they can do to get
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on the best nutrition
and lifestyle program.
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A lot of people have this
mistake thinking, hey, I've
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already god cancer, so
why change my lifestyle now?
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And studies show that if you
change your lifestyle for the
00:18:32.17\00:18:34.64
better, you
significantly improve your odds.
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For instance, if you have lung
cancer and don't quit smoking,
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your chance of cancer
recurrence is far higher than
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if you quit smoking. JB: Right.
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NN: If you have colon cancer and
you continue to eat red meat,
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your chance of recurrence
is higher than if you don't eat
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red meat. And so,
what you need to do is
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also get in touch with a
clinician or a physician who can
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give you the evidence-based
therapies that can be utilized
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in conjunction with traditional
therapies that can improve
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your odds. JB: Natural remedies.
00:19:09.68\00:19:13.38
They come in all
different shapes and sizes.
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What are some that have been
demonstrated to help in, uh,
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the case of cancer? And
I just want to say to you,
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at the risk of sounding
redundant, I'm not one who
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advocates ignoring conventional
cancer treatment and going the
00:19:27.10\00:19:33.70
whole hog on natural remedies.
If God leads a person to do
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that, that's fine, but I, I'm
convicted that we should really
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be wise about using,
uh, modern medical methods
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that are available to
us. That having been said,
00:19:45.01\00:19:47.62
natural remedies? NN:
Turmeric, for instance,
00:19:47.62\00:19:50.55
for breast cancer.
Significant improvement when
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combined, uh, with chemotherapy,
versus chemotherapy
00:19:55.26\00:19:59.46
with no turmeric on board.
Turmeric not only can help with
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breast cancer, it can help with
melanoma, it can help with other
00:20:02.96\00:20:06.77
forms of cancer,
even pancreatic cancer.
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Uh, feverfew,
uh, which is a plant,
00:20:09.94\00:20:12.77
uh, that's derived a
chemical called [parthenolide]
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has been shown to be actually
more effective than the best
00:20:15.51\00:20:18.41
effective drug for
acute myelocytic leukemia.
00:20:18.41\00:20:22.35
Resveratrol in combination with
other treatments has been show
00:20:22.35\00:20:26.35
to help with
pancreatic cancer. Uh.
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JB: And we get resveratrol
from? NN: From red grapes.
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Then there's,
um, pomegranate juice
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for prostate cancer,
actually decreases the doubling
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time of prostate
cancer significantly.
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These are all peer-reviewed
scientific literature.
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You could log onto our web site
and actually see the references
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and the
peer-reviewed, uh, research.
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Here's kind of the, the
frustration that I have as
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far as our medical society is
concerned, if you don't offer a
00:20:54.68\00:20:59.02
patient chemotherapy, um, you
can be committing malpractice.
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But if you don't tell
them about pomegranate juice
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in prostate cancer,
it's not seen as malpractice.
00:21:07.23\00:21:09.40
JB: Right. NN: Uh,
and it, it's because of
00:21:09.40\00:21:12.40
the bias that we have in the
pharmaceutical industry that is
00:21:12.40\00:21:16.24
so strong a lobby group, uh, and
there isn't any lobby group for
00:21:16.24\00:21:22.01
pomegranates, for instance,
because they don't cost
00:21:22.01\00:21:24.48
anything, there's no patent
on it and that sort of thing.
00:21:24.48\00:21:27.82
So, unless your doctor is
informed about peer-review
00:21:27.82\00:21:30.95
research, you may
never find out about that.
00:21:30.95\00:21:33.09
And so that's why it's important
for you to also talk to someone
00:21:33.09\00:21:36.99
who's familiar with the
peer-review research in cancer,
00:21:36.99\00:21:40.66
because it's a combined approach
that's going to improve your
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odds of survival.
JB: That's what I say.
00:21:43.47\00:21:45.37
You want to do your homework.
But let's talk about prayer.
00:21:45.37\00:21:48.34
NN: Um-hum. JB: I've
spoken to people who've
00:21:48.34\00:21:50.61
had cancer and they said,
there's nothing like this cancer
00:21:50.61\00:21:54.14
to kick start or readjust
my relationship with God.
00:21:54.14\00:21:57.91
When you're, when you're
confronting your own mortality,
00:21:57.91\00:22:00.72
it makes you really
think about these things.
00:22:00.72\00:22:03.12
NN: There have
been studies on SRC.
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SRC is the enigma of the
cancer researchers, it's called
00:22:05.75\00:22:10.89
Spontaneous
Regression of Cancer.
00:22:10.89\00:22:13.73
JB: Yeah. NN: And
these are people that
00:22:13.73\00:22:15.20
did nothing, but then they came
back expecting to die, told they
00:22:15.20\00:22:19.03
were given a death sentence,
and six months later they're not
00:22:19.03\00:22:21.74
dead, they're actually feeling
pretty good, and they come back
00:22:21.74\00:22:24.74
and have their scans
and the cancer is all gone.
00:22:24.74\00:22:27.58
There's been over 140 cases
now described in the medical
00:22:27.58\00:22:30.58
literature of SRC, and every one
of those cases involved prayer.
00:22:30.58\00:22:38.22
But it wasn't a
prayer for a cure,
00:22:38.22\00:22:41.52
interestingly
enough. Doctor Dawsey
00:22:41.52\00:22:43.56
has demonstrated
this. We have it in our book
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"Proof
Positive." We, we show all
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the research on this. It
was actually a prayer placing
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the individual into the
will, into the hands of God.
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And that person was committed to
doing God's will in their life,
00:22:55.44\00:22:59.47
thinking that
they were going to die.
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But they just wanted to do his
will during the remaining few
00:23:01.31\00:23:04.65
weeks of their life. And
in some instances, you can't
00:23:04.65\00:23:08.42
explain it any other
way, the Lord was the one
00:23:08.42\00:23:12.19
who was the Great
Physician and touched them.
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JB: You know, I've said this to
people many times and then when
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I was dealing with
cancer, I, I, uh, way up
00:23:18.16\00:23:22.63
with what I was saying
meant anything or nothing.
00:23:22.63\00:23:25.43
There are worse
things than being sick.
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There are worse things
than a terminal illness.
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Because when we think about
this in the light of eternity,
00:23:30.04\00:23:33.17
whatever we go
through on this earth,
00:23:33.17\00:23:35.44
that's one
thing, but the point is
00:23:35.44\00:23:37.48
we want to get out of this earth
and into the world to come.
00:23:37.48\00:23:40.85
NN: That's right. JB:
So, really, I say this
00:23:40.85\00:23:42.65
with a great deal of
respect, whether we live or die,
00:23:42.65\00:23:46.89
that's not really
the important question
00:23:46.89\00:23:49.26
because we're all
going to die anyhow.
00:23:49.26\00:23:51.43
What's important
is what happens next.
00:23:51.43\00:23:53.60
NN: That's right. JB:
And even if a person has a
00:23:53.60\00:23:55.83
cancer that isn't going to
be cured, it's what happens
00:23:55.83\00:23:59.27
next that's important.
When your eyes open again,
00:23:59.27\00:24:02.47
will you see Jesus?
Will there be a place for you
00:24:02.47\00:24:05.54
in God's eternal kingdom?
And that's where there is hope
00:24:05.54\00:24:08.84
for everybody. NN: Yeah.
00:24:08.84\00:24:10.68
The Book of James says that if
we pray according to God's will,
00:24:10.68\00:24:14.15
he will raise up the sick.
Now, it doesn't tell us the time
00:24:14.15\00:24:18.05
that that will
occur. JB: That's right.
00:24:18.05\00:24:20.16
NN: But, uh, we know that, uh,
if you are in the Lord's hands
00:24:20.16\00:24:24.89
and you do die, you're going to
be healed in the resurrection.
00:24:24.89\00:24:27.73
There's going to be
no cancer in heaven.
00:24:27.73\00:24:29.80
And so maybe it's
the Lord's will that
00:24:29.80\00:24:31.77
you're not healed until then.
JB: And we want to encourage
00:24:31.77\00:24:34.60
you with that today. You know,
00:24:34.60\00:24:35.30
there's a lot you can do to
strengthen your immune system,
00:24:35.30\00:24:37.84
stay away from
certain things, be sure you're
00:24:37.84\00:24:40.54
getting the right
antioxidants. Ah, and then what?
00:24:40.54\00:24:46.25
Well, then you trust the
Lord. Maybe somebody with cancer
00:24:46.25\00:24:49.65
is going to have radiation
or chemotherapy or not.
00:24:49.65\00:24:52.35
Maybe you're going to
drink some carrot juice
00:24:52.35\00:24:54.19
or do something
different. But there's hope.
00:24:54.19\00:24:56.46
There's real hope
for healing, thank God.
00:24:56.46\00:24:59.89
And ultimately there's the
guarantee of ultimate healing,
00:24:59.89\00:25:05.03
because one day Jesus will come
back, he'll take us to a place
00:25:05.03\00:25:07.60
the Bible says the inhabitant
of that place will not say,
00:25:07.60\00:25:10.74
I am sick. God
will wipe away all tears
00:25:10.74\00:25:13.34
from their eyes,
there'll be no more death,
00:25:13.34\00:25:16.34
neither sorrow, nor crying,
00:25:16.34\00:25:17.51
neither will there be any
pain because the former things
00:25:17.51\00:25:20.32
are passed away. But
if you're facing in your
00:25:20.32\00:25:23.55
personal
experience, in your family,
00:25:23.55\00:25:25.42
with a friend, I
want you to know today,
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thank God there is hope.
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[soft piano melody]
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We hear it all the
time- God is all-powerful!
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God is love! If God
is so powerful and so
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loving, why is
there so much suffering?
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JB: Dr. Nedley, again
thanks for joining me today.
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You've helped us to understand
there really is hope and we're
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encouraged
through Christ. Thank you.
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NN: Yes. Thank you.
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JB: Let's pray, let's pray
and thank God for the hope he
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gives us through Jesus Christ.
¤ [Warm and Heartfelt melody] ¤
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Our Father in
Heaven, we are grateful.
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We thank you that as Dr. Nedley
has said, there are many things
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that we can do to improve our
odds, if I can put it that way,
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in the face of
cancer. There are many things.
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And you can heal.
You've done it again
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and again and
again. You can heal through
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one means or
another. You can heal.
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And ultimately we're grateful
to know that when Jesus returns,
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that in the earth made new,
we'll be healed, healed of any
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physical malady and healed
from every spiritual malady that
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afflicted us
while on this earth.
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We thank you for hope
today. And we thank you
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for Jesus today. And
we pray in Jesus' name.
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Amen. NN: Amen.
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[gentle tune]
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JB: Thank you
for joining me today.
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I look forward to
seeing you again next time.
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Until then,
remember It Is Written.
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Man shall not live by bread
alone but by every word that
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proceeds from the mouth
of God. [It Is Written theme]
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