¤[Theme music]¤ 00:01:30.09\00:01:40.13 ¤[Theme music]¤ 00:01:40.13\00:01:47.17 >>John Bradshaw: This is It Is Written. 00:01:49.37\00:01:51.24 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me. 00:01:51.27\00:01:54.48 As you read the Bible, you read some of the great 00:01:54.51\00:01:57.01 stories of all of history. 00:01:57.05\00:01:59.61 Accounts that God has placed into the Bible for us to learn 00:01:59.65\00:02:03.42 not only their history, but to understand the heart of God, 00:02:03.45\00:02:06.29 the love of God, and the plan of salvation. 00:02:06.32\00:02:08.96 And as we read the Bible, we read simply some 00:02:08.99\00:02:12.59 mundane information about everyday life. 00:02:12.63\00:02:15.16 But, rightly understood, that mundane information 00:02:15.20\00:02:18.63 shines a bright light onto the lives of Bible characters, 00:02:18.67\00:02:22.80 the culture and the environments from which they sprang, 00:02:22.84\00:02:25.87 and help us understand in greater depth 00:02:25.91\00:02:29.24 the great themes of the Bible. 00:02:29.28\00:02:30.95 Well, today to that end, I have come to the 00:02:30.98\00:02:32.45 Lynn H. Wood Archaeological Museum 00:02:32.48\00:02:35.22 on the campus of Southern Adventist University, 00:02:35.25\00:02:37.19 and my special guest today is Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:02:37.22\00:02:39.65 a professor of Near Eastern studies and archaeology. 00:02:39.69\00:02:42.82 Dr. Hasel, thanks for joining me today. 00:02:42.86\00:02:44.56 >>Michael Hasel: It's great to be with you, John. 00:02:44.59\00:02:45.89 >>John: Now, I don't mean to be disparaging. 00:02:45.93\00:02:47.00 And I talk about mundane details about everyday life. 00:02:47.03\00:02:50.03 But we read about people who were shepherds. 00:02:50.07\00:02:53.17 They herded sheep. 00:02:53.20\00:02:54.54 We read about people who were 00:02:54.57\00:02:56.44 farmers; perhaps they grew crops. 00:02:56.47\00:02:59.61 What about some of these details can 00:02:59.64\00:03:02.61 help us really understand the Bible in a greater way, 00:03:02.64\00:03:06.31 and in a way that grows our faith in the Bible? 00:03:06.35\00:03:08.85 >>Michael: Well to me this is what makes archaeology 00:03:08.88\00:03:11.65 such a relevant thing for the Bible. 00:03:11.69\00:03:13.36 We have these 66 books of the Bible 00:03:13.39\00:03:15.79 that give us this grand scope of history 00:03:15.82\00:03:17.99 going through from the beginning of Earth's history 00:03:18.03\00:03:20.40 all the way to the end. 00:03:20.43\00:03:22.16 And yet, many times the details: 00:03:22.20\00:03:24.50 the details of how people lived, what they ate, 00:03:24.53\00:03:27.17 how they prepared their food, 00:03:27.20\00:03:28.47 what kind of houses they lived in, 00:03:28.50\00:03:29.90 all of those kinds of things, are mentioned in passing 00:03:29.94\00:03:32.64 but they're not really the main focus of what 00:03:32.67\00:03:34.68 the Bible writers are interested in. 00:03:34.71\00:03:36.85 One of the things that we have to remind ourselves is: 00:03:36.88\00:03:38.78 they lived in a very different kind of world 00:03:38.81\00:03:40.98 than many of us do, at least in the western world. 00:03:41.02\00:03:42.92 They were, they were agricultural people. 00:03:42.95\00:03:45.42 Agriculture was a major part of, of their way of life. 00:03:45.45\00:03:48.26 >>John: Let me ask you something about the, the, the signs, 00:03:48.29\00:03:50.66 the discipline of archaeology. You're an archaeologist. 00:03:50.69\00:03:53.83 You, you dig in Israel, you've dug in other places, 00:03:53.86\00:03:56.46 um, I'd like to think that most of your work is, is 00:03:56.50\00:04:02.84 unearthing temples, gates, great streets, cities, 00:04:02.87\00:04:10.11 but I think the reality for archaeologists 00:04:10.15\00:04:13.08 is that a lot of the time you're finding scraps of pottery, 00:04:13.11\00:04:16.85 and what sort of things might you find in the field 00:04:16.89\00:04:21.66 that somebody like me wouldn't realize is actually of great use 00:04:21.69\00:04:25.16 to an archaeologist? >>Michael: Right. 00:04:25.19\00:04:26.49 >>John: What would some of those things be? 00:04:26.53\00:04:27.83 >>Michael: Well, we find, we find, like you said, 00:04:27.86\00:04:29.30 we do find temples. We do find palaces. 00:04:29.33\00:04:31.13 Those are always the highlights. Whenever we find a big building, 00:04:31.17\00:04:34.14 it's, it's, it's a great thing. 00:04:34.17\00:04:35.40 But we're also interested in household archaeology; 00:04:35.44\00:04:37.97 how people lived in their everyday lives. 00:04:38.01\00:04:40.48 And, and we excavate those houses. 00:04:40.51\00:04:42.14 In the last several years I've been working 00:04:42.18\00:04:43.61 at a site called Lachish, or Lachish, 00:04:43.65\00:04:45.85 and we have been digging a row of houses 00:04:45.88\00:04:48.05 right next to the palace, or the major uh, building of that time. 00:04:48.08\00:04:52.32 And, and, and the materials that we find in there 00:04:52.35\00:04:54.89 give us an insight into how people lived. 00:04:54.92\00:04:56.56 Let me give you a couple of examples. 00:04:56.59\00:04:57.93 >>John: Sure. 00:04:57.96\00:04:59.33 >>Michael: Um, 00:04:59.36\00:05:02.26 this is a very heavy, I'll let you hold it in a minute, 00:05:02.30\00:05:05.73 a very heavy piece of basalt. This is a volcanic rock. 00:05:05.77\00:05:08.54 It comes, actually, from the northern part of Israel, 00:05:08.57\00:05:10.61 um, up near the Sea of Galilee, which was a very volcanic area. 00:05:10.64\00:05:15.51 And this was what the ancients used, this heavy rock 00:05:15.54\00:05:19.11 with the coarse area, to, um, to grind their grain with. 00:05:19.15\00:05:24.19 And so, you know, you, you have a, you have uh, 00:05:24.22\00:05:27.59 an under part here, and you're moving back and forth, 00:05:27.62\00:05:31.09 and this is what you use to make your flour 00:05:31.13\00:05:33.09 so that you can make your bread every day. 00:05:33.13\00:05:35.53 Um, just feel the weight of that. 00:05:35.56\00:05:37.10 This is, this is not something... 00:05:37.13\00:05:38.47 >>John: Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's real heavy. 00:05:38.50\00:05:39.97 >>Michael: ...that, that's light. 00:05:40.00\00:05:41.30 But because of the porous nature, 00:05:41.34\00:05:42.64 it really allows the grinding of those grains down to 00:05:42.67\00:05:47.04 something that, that can be edible 00:05:47.08\00:05:48.98 and can be put into bread. 00:05:49.01\00:05:50.48 >>John: So let me ask you a question. 00:05:50.51\00:05:51.81 This seems to answer the question, well, really, 00:05:51.85\00:05:53.78 this, this is an everyday stuff of life... 00:05:53.82\00:05:56.38 >>Michael: Right. 00:05:56.42\00:05:57.85 >>John: item that you might find. 00:05:57.89\00:05:59.09 How do you know that that's what this was used for? 00:05:59.12\00:06:01.06 >>Michael: Well, you, you know this because of the shape of it. 00:06:01.09\00:06:03.66 It's been shaped, it's been, it's been carved 00:06:03.69\00:06:05.99 so that it nicely fits into a human hand like this. 00:06:06.03\00:06:08.90 And then you can see the bottom of it, 00:06:08.93\00:06:11.03 is, is often very smooth from, 00:06:11.07\00:06:13.17 from that grinding that has taken place over time. 00:06:13.20\00:06:15.84 You see a rock like this and you know this is, this is manmade. 00:06:15.87\00:06:18.57 This is something that they've taken and shaped. 00:06:18.61\00:06:20.88 And that's when a rock, for an archaeologist, 00:06:20.91\00:06:22.94 becomes an artifact... >>John: Right. 00:06:22.98\00:06:24.28 >>Michael: before that time. 00:06:24.31\00:06:25.38 It's simply a rock, and geologists study those. 00:06:25.41\00:06:28.42 But, but as soon as you have something 00:06:28.45\00:06:30.12 that's been formed by human hands and used as a tool, 00:06:30.15\00:06:32.99 which this was, 00:06:33.02\00:06:34.29 then it's something much more significant. 00:06:34.32\00:06:35.99 >>John: In endeavoring to understand the culture, 00:06:36.02\00:06:37.49 the life and the times of the people who lived way back then, 00:06:37.53\00:06:40.10 it seems to me that, 00:06:40.13\00:06:41.36 almost anything you find is valuable. 00:06:41.40\00:06:43.23 I know that we've had discussions before 00:06:43.26\00:06:44.63 and you've talked about how, how, how bones 00:06:44.67\00:06:47.37 that have been found, just bones, discarded bones, 00:06:47.40\00:06:50.51 told a lot and gave a lot of information... 00:06:50.54\00:06:53.21 >>Michael: Absolutely. 00:06:53.24\00:06:54.04 >>John: ...that became very useful. 00:06:54.08\00:06:55.18 >>Michael: Every bit of information that we can gather, 00:06:55.21\00:06:57.05 much of it is left behind, much of it is garbage 00:06:57.08\00:06:59.65 or things that people didn't want anymore. 00:06:59.68\00:07:02.02 But they all give us a glimpse into what people did, 00:07:02.05\00:07:04.62 how they lived back then. 00:07:04.65\00:07:06.15 The bones can give us information about the diet 00:07:06.19\00:07:09.09 of the ancients, uh, what kind of things they ate. Um. 00:07:09.12\00:07:12.66 >>John: And therefore who they were. 00:07:12.69\00:07:14.10 >>Michael: And who they were, exactly, because.. 00:07:14.13\00:07:16.10 >>John: Jews would leave different bones behind 00:07:16.13\00:07:17.20 than non-Jews, for instance. >>Michael: That's right. 00:07:17.23\00:07:18.47 We've, we've dug at a number of Judean sites where we have found 00:07:18.50\00:07:21.20 not a single pig bone after digging for seven seasons, 00:07:21.24\00:07:24.11 and, and digging 30 percent of the site. 00:07:24.14\00:07:26.24 Whereas the Philistines had 15 to 30 percent 00:07:26.27\00:07:28.91 of the remains that are found at Philistine sites are pig bones. 00:07:28.94\00:07:31.48 We also know today that the pigs that are in Israel, 00:07:31.51\00:07:34.12 there have been studies done of these ancient pigs, 00:07:34.15\00:07:37.32 and they're, they're species that they were coming from 00:07:37.35\00:07:40.26 Europe, and that fits very well with the Philistines, 00:07:40.29\00:07:43.43 who are also coming from Greece and from that area. 00:07:43.46\00:07:45.46 So they were introduced, not by the Israelites, not by locals, 00:07:45.49\00:07:49.20 but they were brought from the outside in. 00:07:49.23\00:07:50.93 >>John: Now, is there a story in the Bible 00:07:50.97\00:07:53.37 you think'd be great to look at? 00:07:53.40\00:07:55.10 Maybe it continues something relatively everyday, 00:07:55.14\00:07:59.44 sort of mundane, but, but, 00:07:59.47\00:08:02.18 in archaeology we've been able to learn more about these 00:08:02.21\00:08:06.01 cultural practices that shine a light on, 00:08:06.05\00:08:08.38 our understanding of the Word of God. 00:08:08.42\00:08:09.72 Where would we begin? 00:08:09.75\00:08:10.95 >>Michael: Well, there's many, many places we could go to, 00:08:10.99\00:08:12.95 but as I think about rural lifestyle 00:08:12.99\00:08:14.99 and especially agricultural lifestyle, 00:08:15.02\00:08:16.66 I can't help about, think about the story of Ruth and Boaz, 00:08:16.69\00:08:20.63 >>John: Ok. 00:08:20.66\00:08:21.80 >>Michael: and, uh, that, that great little book of Ruth 00:08:21.83\00:08:23.47 that's found, um, in the Old Testament 00:08:23.50\00:08:26.63 is a, is a, is a glimpse into the ancient world 00:08:26.67\00:08:29.94 and the period of the Judges, 00:08:29.97\00:08:31.67 and it gives us an understanding of what life was like. 00:08:31.71\00:08:34.24 Now, the setting is the city of Bethlehem, 00:08:34.28\00:08:37.28 the town of Bethlehem. 00:08:37.31\00:08:38.78 It's the same place, uh, that, that David would later be born. 00:08:38.81\00:08:42.42 In fact, Ruth is David's great-grandmother. 00:08:42.45\00:08:45.69 And then later on, of course, this is where Jesus 00:08:45.72\00:08:48.42 would be born as well. So this, that's the setting, 00:08:48.46\00:08:50.79 and it's still a rural community today. 00:08:50.83\00:08:52.49 You can still see the shepherds 00:08:52.53\00:08:54.20 out in the fields with their flocks, and 00:08:54.20\00:08:56.10 you can still see agriculture taking place there today. 00:08:56.13\00:08:58.57 >>John: Ruth, chapter 2, I'm going to read a little passage. 00:08:58.60\00:09:03.87 See if you can comment on this. 00:09:03.91\00:09:05.51 >>Michael: Sure. 00:09:05.54\00:09:06.47 >>John: Part of the book of Ruth, you know, 00:09:06.51\00:09:07.64 for those of us who have been raised in a modern world 00:09:07.68\00:09:10.05 and we've been raised in cities and so on, 00:09:10.08\00:09:12.01 it, it, it's hard to even make it compute. 00:09:12.05\00:09:14.72 You really must try to understand 00:09:14.75\00:09:16.82 the cultural milieu. >>Michael: Sure. 00:09:16.85\00:09:18.59 >>John: So let me read this. 00:09:18.62\00:09:19.49 Ruth, chapter 2, starting in verse 2. 00:09:19.52\00:09:20.99 "Ruth the Moabitess said unto Naomi, 00:09:21.02\00:09:24.23 'Let me go now to the field, and glean ears of corn 00:09:24.26\00:09:27.30 after him in whose sight I shall find grace.' 00:09:27.30\00:09:31.03 And she said unto her; 'Go, my daughter.' 00:09:31.07\00:09:33.00 And she went, and came, 00:09:33.03\00:09:34.04 and gleaned in the field after the reapers..." 00:09:34.07\00:09:36.84 Now, that's just an everyday sort of occurrence. 00:09:36.87\00:09:39.57 What does archaeology help us understand about that? 00:09:39.61\00:09:43.95 >>Michael: Well, I think to understand the, 00:09:43.98\00:09:47.95 the setting of all of this, 00:09:47.98\00:09:49.28 and to go back to that setting again, um, we have, 00:09:49.32\00:09:53.19 we have some, some grain here. 00:09:53.22\00:09:57.29 >>John: Now, that's not corn. 00:09:57.33\00:09:58.19 >>Michael: This is not corn, no. 00:09:58.23\00:09:59.36 >>John: And that's because? 00:09:59.39\00:10:00.56 >>Michael: Because the, the King James version, of course, 00:10:00.60\00:10:03.16 was translated in 1611 in Britain, and Britain, 00:10:03.20\00:10:06.50 the term corn was the generic term that was used for grain. 00:10:06.53\00:10:10.34 That's, that's, uh, it, it means grain. 00:10:10.37\00:10:12.34 And if you know the Hebrew, it simply means grain. 00:10:12.37\00:10:14.94 So they used corn. 00:10:14.98\00:10:16.21 It's not maize, because maize is a New World product that, uh, 00:10:16.24\00:10:19.45 that comes from the Aztecs and the Mayans and so forth. 00:10:19.48\00:10:22.52 >>John: So this was wheat. 00:10:22.55\00:10:23.49 >>Michael: So this was wheat. 00:10:23.52\00:10:24.85 Barley and wheat, 00:10:24.89\00:10:25.99 they would, they would take in the fields. 00:10:26.02\00:10:27.52 And this is how it grew, as it grows today. 00:10:27.56\00:10:30.26 And, uh, they would, they would harvest it, they would cut it. 00:10:30.29\00:10:32.99 We find the sickles still in the field, uh, 00:10:33.03\00:10:35.36 not in the field, sometimes in the homes. 00:10:35.40\00:10:37.87 The sickles that were used for this, sometimes they're made uh, 00:10:37.90\00:10:40.94 from actual iron blades in later periods. 00:10:40.97\00:10:43.57 In earlier periods they were actually made from stone blades 00:10:43.61\00:10:46.81 that were found in that context. So they would cut them down, 00:10:46.84\00:10:50.01 and then they would gather them up like this. 00:10:50.05\00:10:52.18 And then the process at that point would be to separate, 00:10:52.21\00:10:56.12 of course, the kernels from everything else, 00:10:56.15\00:10:59.09 and they would then throw, throw these up in the air 00:10:59.12\00:11:02.16 and allow the chaff, after, after they, they, uh, 00:11:02.19\00:11:05.29 would go over it with, with, with a heavy 00:11:05.33\00:11:07.86 uh, piece of, of uh, wood that had stone in it, 00:11:07.93\00:11:12.40 to kind of separate all this stuff out. 00:11:12.43\00:11:14.84 They would then throw it up in the air, 00:11:14.87\00:11:16.17 and the chaff would fly away, 00:11:16.20\00:11:18.24 and the kernels of grain would drop down, 00:11:18.27\00:11:20.28 and they would have a nice pile of, of whole kernels, 00:11:20.31\00:11:24.05 that then they would have to grind into flour. 00:11:24.08\00:11:26.31 >>John: Um, using one of those. 00:11:26.35\00:11:28.12 >>Michael: Using one of these grinders. 00:11:28.15\00:11:29.65 And I've, I have another one here I want to show you 00:11:29.68\00:11:31.79 that was found. >>John: How old is this? 00:11:31.82\00:11:33.12 >>Michael: This is probably dating to the eighth century. 00:11:33.15\00:11:36.09 Uh, this is the time period of Isaiah and, um, and Amos, 00:11:36.12\00:11:40.96 who were also, Amos came from very close by, 00:11:40.96\00:11:43.77 from Tekoa, very close by to Bethlehem. 00:11:43.80\00:11:47.07 So in this case, this is a much smaller 00:11:47.10\00:11:49.14 stone that was used to grind. 00:11:49.17\00:11:50.74 Sometimes these smaller, uh, items were used for, 00:11:50.77\00:11:54.14 not so much for grain, but for fruits and that kind of thing, 00:11:54.18\00:11:57.45 to, to, uh, to use that. 00:11:57.48\00:11:59.71 And you can see the beautiful decorations here. 00:11:59.75\00:12:01.72 This is the same material. It's made out of basalt. 00:12:01.75\00:12:03.59 It's not as coarse basalt as we had before. 00:12:03.62\00:12:06.49 But it's still the same material and weighs a lot. 00:12:06.52\00:12:09.22 >>John: And once again, 00:12:09.26\00:12:10.39 archaeology bringing into clearer focus 00:12:10.43\00:12:12.59 the ordinary lives, the daily details of those people 00:12:12.63\00:12:15.10 who lived so long ago, the people of whom we read, 00:12:15.13\00:12:18.03 about whom we study in the Word of God. 00:12:18.07\00:12:20.90 Real people who lived real lives. 00:12:20.94\00:12:23.74 Back with more in just a moment. 00:12:23.77\00:12:25.34 ¤[Music]¤ 00:12:25.37\00:12:31.51 >>John: It's a subject that is talked about much, 00:12:32.01\00:12:33.78 studied often, and you want to know what the Bible says 00:12:33.82\00:12:37.25 about the temple in scripture. 00:12:37.29\00:12:39.29 To find out, receive today's free offer: 00:12:39.32\00:12:41.76 "Rebuilding the Temple." 00:12:41.79\00:12:43.59 Call 800-253-3000. 00:12:43.63\00:12:46.03 Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com. 00:12:46.06\00:12:50.33 What does the Bible say about the Temple and its services? 00:12:50.37\00:12:53.80 Get today's free offer: "Rebuilding the Temple." 00:12:53.84\00:12:55.84 800-253-3000, 00:12:55.87\00:12:57.91 visit us at iiwoffer.com. 00:12:57.94\00:13:01.68 >>Announcer: Have you ever struggled 00:13:02.04\00:13:02.94 to say no to temptation? 00:13:02.98\00:13:04.58 You're not alone. 00:13:04.61\00:13:06.08 Everybody has at some point. 00:13:06.11\00:13:07.52 But there is hope. 00:13:07.55\00:13:09.58 "Taking a Stand" 00:13:09.62\00:13:10.72 is a five part series presented by Pastor John Bradshaw 00:13:10.75\00:13:13.19 that will help you win your spiritual battles. 00:13:13.22\00:13:15.76 To order your copy of "Taking a Stand" on DVD, 00:13:15.79\00:13:18.56 call 1-888-664-5573, 00:13:18.59\00:13:22.33 or download it from our web store at 00:13:22.36\00:13:24.30 www.itiswritten.shop. 00:13:24.33\00:13:27.67 Discover powerful ways you can live 00:13:27.70\00:13:29.40 a victorious Christian life. 00:13:29.44\00:13:31.67 >>John: This is It Is Written. 00:13:31.97\00:13:33.54 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me today. 00:13:33.58\00:13:36.44 Today my guest is Dr. Michael Hasel, an archaeologist. 00:13:36.48\00:13:39.48 I'm at the Lynn H. Wood Archaeological Museum 00:13:39.51\00:13:42.68 in Collegedale, Tennessee. 00:13:42.72\00:13:45.09 Dr. Hasel, there's something I want to ask you about. 00:13:45.12\00:13:46.99 Here in 1 Samuel, chapter 2, I'm going to read in verse, uh, 19: 00:13:47.02\00:13:51.79 "Moreover, his mother made him a little coat, 00:13:51.83\00:13:54.93 and brought it to him from year to year, 00:13:54.96\00:13:56.93 when she came up with her husband 00:13:56.97\00:13:58.33 to offer the yearly sacrifice." 00:13:58.37\00:14:00.80 So Hannah was making Samuel a coat every year. 00:14:00.84\00:14:05.31 As he grew, he'd need a new one. What was involved in that? 00:14:05.34\00:14:09.34 >>Michael: Well, it was, it was a very involved process, 00:14:09.38\00:14:11.48 very different from us going to a store today 00:14:11.51\00:14:14.12 and simply buying something, buying a piece of clothing. 00:14:14.15\00:14:16.52 Uh, we have some interesting artifacts here. 00:14:16.55\00:14:19.92 The first thing, of course, that they had to do 00:14:19.95\00:14:22.69 was to get the wool from a sheep. 00:14:22.72\00:14:25.36 And, um, of course, 00:14:25.39\00:14:27.76 they didn't have to kill the sheep necessarily to do this. 00:14:27.83\00:14:29.96 They could shear the sheep and, and, and get the wool, 00:14:30.00\00:14:32.13 uh, in, in, in different times of the year. 00:14:32.17\00:14:35.00 And they would take that wool, of course, 00:14:35.04\00:14:37.37 and then once they had the wool, 00:14:37.41\00:14:39.41 they would take an artifact like this. 00:14:39.44\00:14:42.38 This is a, they could get any stick, 00:14:42.41\00:14:45.01 and they would put what is called a spindle whirl 00:14:45.05\00:14:47.45 on the bottom of it. 00:14:47.48\00:14:49.58 Spindle whirl, this doesn't really fit very well, 00:14:49.62\00:14:52.69 but normally it would fit very nicely. 00:14:52.72\00:14:54.36 And then they would spin that spindle whirl. 00:14:54.39\00:14:56.76 That the weight of this would allow them to spin it 00:14:56.79\00:14:58.79 very nicely around, and they could take strands of that wool 00:14:58.83\00:15:02.60 and make it into yarn, or make it into, uh, 00:15:02.63\00:15:07.84 material that they could use for weaving. 00:15:07.87\00:15:09.60 The next part of that process, after they were done 00:15:09.64\00:15:13.64 making the strands, was they would use a loom 00:15:13.68\00:15:16.64 that has, also, loom weights at the bottom. 00:15:16.68\00:15:19.85 These, uh, would, would, these weights at the bottom 00:15:19.88\00:15:23.95 would hold down the strands of cloth in the vertical position, 00:15:23.99\00:15:28.62 and then they would bring the other cloth across and slowly, 00:15:28.66\00:15:33.60 they would slowly begin to weave that back and forth. 00:15:33.63\00:15:37.20 And in time this all would create either a nice new carpet, 00:15:37.23\00:15:43.61 a part of a tent, or, uh in the case of Samuel, his mother, 00:15:43.64\00:15:48.64 uh, she could construct a very nice, 00:15:48.68\00:15:50.61 or weave a very nice piece of clothing for him every year. 00:15:50.65\00:15:53.98 >>John: Now, from an archaeological perspective, 00:15:54.02\00:15:55.72 I doubt very much that too many full looms have ever been 00:15:55.75\00:15:58.19 uh, excavated. 00:15:58.22\00:15:59.52 So what do archaeologists find that talks of this? 00:15:59.55\00:16:02.86 >>Michael: In this, uh, particular case what we find 00:16:02.89\00:16:06.03 in the heartland of Israel in not-so-dry regions is, 00:16:06.06\00:16:10.40 uh, we find the actual loom weights. 00:16:10.43\00:16:13.03 Uh, this last summer we were excavating a series of houses, 00:16:13.07\00:16:15.77 and we found in one area, in one house, 00:16:15.80\00:16:18.71 we found 58 of these loom weights. 00:16:18.74\00:16:21.64 So we knew there was a loom there at some time. 00:16:21.68\00:16:23.68 We didn't find any cloth. 00:16:23.71\00:16:25.28 The, uh, the wood of the loom had already 00:16:25.31\00:16:28.15 disintegrated over the last, uh, it was about 00:16:28.18\00:16:30.95 the, the, the room dated to 2700 B.C. 00:16:30.99\00:16:34.16 uh, about 2,700 years ago, about 700 B.C. 00:16:34.19\00:16:36.79 And so you have, though, the remnants of what could survive. 00:16:36.83\00:16:41.03 And these loom weights, uh, they're made out of, uh, clay, 00:16:41.06\00:16:45.00 they would be baked, uh, in the destruction debris 00:16:45.03\00:16:48.10 and would be preserved as a result of that. 00:16:48.14\00:16:49.87 >>John: So who would have made this? 00:16:49.90\00:16:51.21 Would it have been Hannah herself? 00:16:51.24\00:16:53.61 Would it have been a servant? 00:16:53.64\00:16:54.71 Who would use a loom like that? 00:16:54.74\00:16:56.31 >>Michael: Well, it probably would have been Hannah herself 00:16:56.34\00:16:59.65 from the context we have in the biblical passage. 00:16:59.68\00:17:01.78 But we really don't know for certain. 00:17:01.82\00:17:03.75 Um, the womenfolk were normally the ones that would do 00:17:03.79\00:17:06.29 kind of the household activities of this type. 00:17:06.32\00:17:08.99 And, uh, Hannah very well may have been the person to do that. 00:17:09.02\00:17:12.89 >>John: Which is interesting you say the women, 00:17:12.93\00:17:15.00 because then we have the story of Joseph's coat, 00:17:15.03\00:17:19.23 who it appears, uh, that was made by his father. 00:17:19.27\00:17:22.70 And he would have used something much like this. 00:17:22.74\00:17:24.84 >>Michael: Oh, yes, 00:17:24.87\00:17:25.94 he would have used something very similar to this. 00:17:25.97\00:17:27.58 Of course, Joseph lived about 00:17:27.61\00:17:28.68 700 years before the time of Samuel, maybe 750 years. 00:17:28.71\00:17:32.81 So again, this is a, a kind of lifestyle, 00:17:32.85\00:17:37.02 a kind of way of life that would have gone 00:17:37.05\00:17:39.85 for hundreds of years through the ancient Near East. 00:17:39.89\00:17:41.92 And it's interesting, with Joseph, we have uh, we have a 00:17:41.96\00:17:45.36 uh, tomb painting called the Beni Hasan tomb painting, 00:17:45.39\00:17:48.03 which shows Asiatics coming to trade in Egypt. 00:17:48.06\00:17:51.60 And they're dressed in, in, in very colorful clothing, 00:17:51.63\00:17:55.30 which seems to mirror the kind of clothing that Joseph was 00:17:55.34\00:17:58.74 given by his father. So it's another one of those 00:17:58.77\00:18:00.91 corroborating facts that we have from, from history. 00:18:00.94\00:18:03.55 >>John: Magnificent. Thanks for that. 00:18:03.58\00:18:05.55 The Bible, a living book, a dynamic book. 00:18:05.58\00:18:08.52 Archaeology bringing to life the times, the daily lives, 00:18:08.55\00:18:13.36 the personalities of the Word of God. 00:18:13.39\00:18:16.36 Don't go away. 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00:19:01.30\00:19:02.90 to heal the desperately ill servant of a certain centurion. 00:19:02.94\00:19:06.14 Before Jesus got to the man's house, 00:19:06.17\00:19:07.64 the centurion sent word telling Jesus not to come. 00:19:07.68\00:19:10.08 He said, "You don't even need to come here. 00:19:10.11\00:19:12.35 Just say a word, and my servant shall be healed." 00:19:12.38\00:19:15.52 He explained that as a man in authority, 00:19:15.55\00:19:17.15 he knew that when he gave orders, they'd be carried out. 00:19:17.19\00:19:19.75 He said, "I believe that when You say something, 00:19:19.79\00:19:22.39 Your orders will be carried out too." 00:19:22.42\00:19:24.59 Jesus was impressed. 00:19:24.63\00:19:25.93 The Bible says He marveled, and said, 00:19:25.96\00:19:28.20 "I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel." 00:19:28.23\00:19:31.23 Luke 7, verse 9. 00:19:31.27\00:19:33.30 The man had total confidence that if Jesus spoke, 00:19:33.34\00:19:36.17 what He said would happen. 00:19:36.20\00:19:37.01 Now, that's faith. 00:19:37.04\00:19:38.57 Have that sort of real faith today. 00:19:38.61\00:19:40.84 Believe that when Jesus speaks, 00:19:40.88\00:19:43.45 and He speaks in the Bible, 00:19:43.48\00:19:45.38 you can expect what He says to happen. 00:19:45.41\00:19:49.02 I'm John Bradshaw for It Is Written. 00:19:49.05\00:19:51.15 Let's live today by every word. 00:19:51.19\00:19:55.52 ¤[Theme music]¤ 00:19:57.03\00:20:06.10 >>John: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written, 00:20:06.13\00:20:08.40 where my guest is archaeologist Dr. Michael Hasel. 00:20:08.44\00:20:12.74 Dr. Hasel, today we're talking about archaeology 00:20:12.77\00:20:15.41 and everyday life in the times of the Bible. 00:20:15.44\00:20:18.28 And if you'll allow me, there's a question I want to put to you, 00:20:18.31\00:20:20.55 because this has intrigued me. 00:20:20.58\00:20:22.72 I'll read the passage; you'll know why. 00:20:22.75\00:20:24.55 2 Kings, chapter 4, starting in verse 8: 00:20:24.59\00:20:28.16 And it fell on a day, that Elisha passed to Shunem, 00:20:28.19\00:20:31.79 where was a great woman; 00:20:31.83\00:20:33.53 and she constrained him to eat bread. 00:20:33.56\00:20:35.36 And so it was, that as oft as he passed by, 00:20:35.40\00:20:38.00 he turned in there to eat bread. 00:20:38.03\00:20:40.07 And she said to her husband, 00:20:40.10\00:20:42.07 Behold now, I percieve that this is an holy man of God, 00:20:42.10\00:20:44.51 which passes us by continually. 00:20:44.54\00:20:46.64 Let us make a little chamber, I pray thee, on the wall; 00:20:46.68\00:20:50.38 and let us set him there a bed, and a table, and a stool, 00:20:50.41\00:20:52.75 and a candlestick: and it shall be, when he comes to us, 00:20:52.78\00:20:55.72 that he shall turn in there. 00:20:55.75\00:20:57.09 What were houses like back then 00:20:57.12\00:20:59.49 that this family could just decide to make him 00:20:59.52\00:21:02.32 a chamber whether that's a room or a lean-to, 00:21:02.36\00:21:05.63 I don't quite know. 00:21:05.66\00:21:07.23 Tell me about what houses were like 00:21:07.30\00:21:09.03 back in the time of the prophets. 00:21:09.06\00:21:11.70 >>Michael: It's very interesting. 00:21:11.73\00:21:13.27 The way houses were built is a very typical style 00:21:13.30\00:21:17.17 for Israelites. 00:21:17.21\00:21:18.51 It's, uh, it's a different style than you have 00:21:18.54\00:21:20.78 in other surrounding cultures. 00:21:20.81\00:21:22.21 It's not a Canaanite house; it's not an Egyptian house; 00:21:22.24\00:21:24.71 it's not a, the Israelite house was a very, very 00:21:24.75\00:21:27.95 singular type of architecture. 00:21:27.98\00:21:30.45 And there's been a lot of discussion 00:21:30.49\00:21:32.52 in the scholarly community about why they had these kind of, 00:21:32.55\00:21:36.12 what we call four-room houses, or pillared houses. 00:21:36.16\00:21:39.46 Uh, normally it would have four different rooms, 00:21:39.49\00:21:41.96 often in the basement, or not the basement, 00:21:42.00\00:21:44.63 but the first floor you would have cattle or sheep and goats. 00:21:44.67\00:21:48.94 It would be kind of like a barn. 00:21:48.97\00:21:51.44 Um, in the back areas you would have storage areas, 00:21:51.47\00:21:54.38 uh, and so forth. 00:21:54.41\00:21:55.78 And then you'd have an upper floor as well. 00:21:55.81\00:21:57.51 So whether this was something that was added 00:21:57.55\00:21:59.71 as an upper floor, um, 00:21:59.75\00:22:01.62 or whether this was added onto, I, I think maybe 00:22:01.65\00:22:04.49 what the Bible's talking about, 00:22:04.52\00:22:06.09 knowing the architecture of that time, 00:22:06.12\00:22:07.62 is that maybe they added a room above, perhaps, for him. 00:22:07.66\00:22:11.76 Uh, these houses were occupied by, 00:22:11.79\00:22:14.76 a nuclear family but also by extended family. 00:22:14.83\00:22:17.63 >>John: So how many people would you have typically in a home? 00:22:17.67\00:22:19.57 >>Michael: It depended, but you could have as many as 00:22:19.60\00:22:21.80 10 to 15 people in a home of 900 to a thousand, 00:22:21.84\00:22:26.27 maybe 1200 square feet. 00:22:26.31\00:22:27.64 >>John: That's not real big to have 10 or 15 people. 00:22:27.68\00:22:30.78 >>Michael: No, it's not. 00:22:30.81\00:22:31.65 >>John: Now, let me ask you this, then: 00:22:31.68\00:22:33.35 Did, was there a, 00:22:33.38\00:22:35.55 did these homes differ based on the standing of the individual? 00:22:35.58\00:22:40.76 Was it common to find humble dwelling for the humble folks, 00:22:40.79\00:22:44.49 much larger place, did it work like that? 00:22:44.53\00:22:47.30 >>Michael: There was some of that as well, yes. 00:22:47.36\00:22:49.56 And depending on also where in the city it was located, 00:22:49.60\00:22:52.10 if it was a city house or if it was out in the country. 00:22:52.13\00:22:54.44 But the style was very much the same, many times, 00:22:54.47\00:22:57.67 in terms of those four rooms. 00:22:57.71\00:22:59.51 Um, and some of the rooms were simply divided by pillars. 00:22:59.54\00:23:02.31 It wasn't really divided by a wall, let's say. 00:23:02.34\00:23:05.88 The material that was used for them was quite, quite extensive. 00:23:05.91\00:23:08.88 >>John: Yeah, what, what were they, what were they built from? 00:23:08.92\00:23:10.75 >>Michael: They were built from stone primarily, 00:23:10.79\00:23:13.42 that were then plastered on the outside, or even, um, 00:23:13.46\00:23:17.43 either with mud, or with actual plaster lime from, from, 00:23:17.46\00:23:21.20 uh, from limestone, limestone plaster. 00:23:21.23\00:23:24.33 And to construct a house that had 00:23:24.37\00:23:26.67 those four rooms at the bottom, 00:23:26.70\00:23:28.00 plus a roof area with perhaps rooms above, 00:23:28.04\00:23:30.97 you're talking about a construction that would involve 00:23:31.01\00:23:34.04 470 tons of material. 00:23:34.08\00:23:36.71 >>John: That's a heavy house. 00:23:36.75\00:23:38.55 >>Michael: This is a heavy house. 00:23:38.58\00:23:39.78 This is not the kind of houses we build here in North America. 00:23:39.81\00:23:42.58 We're just framing up 2x4s or 2x6s, 00:23:42.62\00:23:45.45 and then putting drywall on it. 00:23:45.49\00:23:47.32 This was solid, solid houses. 00:23:47.36\00:23:49.49 And we find stairs going up to what 00:23:49.52\00:23:52.73 presumably would be a second floor. 00:23:52.76\00:23:54.03 Many times we only find the, 00:23:54.10\00:23:56.30 the um, the foundations of these homes. 00:23:56.33\00:23:59.10 Uh, but we find the staircases that go up to them. 00:23:59.13\00:24:01.94 We find collapsed ceilings, and we find the materials that were, 00:24:01.97\00:24:04.61 that were there. 00:24:04.64\00:24:05.34 So we have huge storage jars, 00:24:05.37\00:24:07.61 many times they're lined up in these houses, 00:24:07.64\00:24:09.54 that would have had olive oil in them, 00:24:09.58\00:24:11.41 or, or perhaps uh, uh grape juice 00:24:11.45\00:24:13.95 or wine or something of that nature. 00:24:13.98\00:24:15.42 So we have, we have, again, uh done a lot of analysis and, 00:24:15.45\00:24:20.49 and looked at the way people lived, and they had, 00:24:20.52\00:24:23.43 they had comfortable homes. 00:24:23.46\00:24:24.66 >>John: Now, these jars that are discovered in archaeological 00:24:24.69\00:24:27.76 ruins, I understand you found some of those, 00:24:27.83\00:24:30.23 and these are genuine ancient, what were they used for? 00:24:30.27\00:24:34.80 >>Michael: Well, they were used to, uh, 00:24:34.84\00:24:36.54 contain all kinds of things uh, often water or oil. 00:24:36.57\00:24:43.18 Olive oil, of course, was produced 00:24:43.21\00:24:44.91 very extensively in the Mediterranean world; 00:24:44.95\00:24:47.32 still is today. 00:24:47.35\00:24:48.52 >>John: This one here, how old is this, and what is this? 00:24:48.55\00:24:50.49 >>Michael: This, this is dating to about the eighth century, 00:24:50.52\00:24:51.99 about 750 B.C. or so. 00:24:52.02\00:24:54.39 So this would date to the time of Isaiah and Amos and, 00:24:54.42\00:24:57.59 and Hezekiah, the king, 00:24:57.63\00:24:59.09 during Sennacherib's famous campaign that he took 00:24:59.13\00:25:01.46 the Assyrian king. 00:25:01.50\00:25:02.43 And I love this, this particular artifact, 00:25:02.46\00:25:04.93 because it has a spout over here on this side. 00:25:04.97\00:25:07.84 This is a spout where you can actually pour out material. 00:25:07.87\00:25:11.51 Uh, and it has, it's designed in such a way where you can put 00:25:11.54\00:25:14.44 a little tiny dipper juglet like this inside the spout, 00:25:14.48\00:25:17.95 and just kind of, it hangs out there as kind of a little 00:25:17.98\00:25:20.98 resting place for it. 00:25:21.02\00:25:22.45 This is a little measuring cup. 00:25:22.48\00:25:24.35 So if you have a large jar, 00:25:24.39\00:25:26.05 sometimes there's jars even larger than this, 00:25:26.09\00:25:27.86 rather than picking up the whole thing 00:25:27.89\00:25:29.86 and accidentally spilling olive oil in your fire and creating, 00:25:29.89\00:25:33.23 burning the whole city down, 00:25:33.26\00:25:34.66 or something like that, you can just take your little dipper jar 00:25:34.73\00:25:37.60 dip it in, maybe on a string or something, 00:25:37.63\00:25:39.80 dip it in, bring out a little bit, 00:25:39.83\00:25:41.94 and this just take it, take it, 00:25:41.97\00:25:43.84 a little bit, this little dipper juglet, and do that. 00:25:43.87\00:25:47.01 So this is a very typical Israelite artifact 00:25:47.04\00:25:50.68 that we find from that time period. 00:25:50.71\00:25:52.61 And it, it just is an amazing piece. 00:25:52.65\00:25:55.88 We find the dipper juglet separately. 00:25:55.92\00:25:57.55 Uh, two summers ago we actually found them together, 00:25:57.59\00:26:01.06 very much like this. They were crushed, 00:26:01.09\00:26:03.12 but perfectly restorable uh, 00:26:03.16\00:26:05.09 on the level that Sennacherib destroyed. 00:26:05.13\00:26:08.10 >>John: When you find something like this, for me, 00:26:08.13\00:26:10.87 for the non-archaeologist, 00:26:10.90\00:26:12.40 it just kind of lights me up and brings the Bible to life. 00:26:12.43\00:26:16.10 This is really real, 00:26:16.14\00:26:17.24 and these were real people living real lives. 00:26:17.27\00:26:18.81 What did it do for you after you've been digging in the 00:26:18.84\00:26:22.41 Middle East for years and years? 00:26:22.44\00:26:23.78 >>Michael: I still get excited. I still get excited. 00:26:23.81\00:26:26.51 Somebody made this 2,700 years ago. 00:26:26.55\00:26:29.15 Somebody uh, cooked with it, prepared for their families. 00:26:29.18\00:26:33.72 Um, there were children running around in the house. 00:26:33.76\00:26:36.02 Uh, you know, it, it, it really to me brings the Bible to life 00:26:36.06\00:26:40.06 in an incredible way, 00:26:40.10\00:26:42.36 in, in a sense that, you know, these were, like you said, 00:26:42.40\00:26:46.53 real people, and uh, we can touch and taste and feel 00:26:46.57\00:26:52.37 the material that they lived with. 00:26:52.41\00:26:54.61 >>John: Archaeology bringing to life the Bible. 00:26:54.64\00:26:58.11 My encouragement to you is that the Bible comes alive 00:26:58.15\00:27:01.05 in your life. 00:27:01.08\00:27:02.68 Archaeology isn't given to us simply so that we can see 00:27:02.72\00:27:05.12 how people lived 2,800 or more or less years ago, 00:27:05.15\00:27:09.52 but so that the Bible can come to life, be real, be accessible. 00:27:09.56\00:27:14.00 And it's real when it's read and believed and leaned upon. 00:27:14.03\00:27:20.30 There were Bible figures or people living among them, 00:27:20.34\00:27:24.21 handling these very artifacts. 00:27:24.24\00:27:26.17 Today, we can handle the Word of God, 00:27:26.21\00:27:29.08 and it can be alive and real for us. 00:27:29.11\00:27:31.71 ¤[Music]¤ 00:27:31.75\00:27:38.02 >>John: It's a subject that is talked about much, 00:27:38.49\00:27:40.29 studied often, and you want to know what the Bible says 00:27:40.32\00:27:43.79 about the temple in scripture. 00:27:43.83\00:27:45.89 To find out, receive today's free offer: 00:27:45.93\00:27:48.40 "Rebuilding the Temple." 00:27:48.43\00:27:50.03 Call 800-253-3000. 00:27:50.07\00:27:52.57 Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com. 00:27:52.60\00:27:56.91 What does the Bible say about the Temple and its services? 00:27:56.94\00:28:00.44 Get today's free offer: "Rebuilding the Temple." 00:28:00.48\00:28:02.38 800-253-3000, 00:28:02.41\00:28:04.58 visit us at iiwoffer.com. 00:28:04.61\00:28:08.32 >>John: Thank you for remembering that It Is Written 00:28:08.42\00:28:10.22 exists because of the kindness of people just like you. 00:28:10.25\00:28:13.86 To support this international, life-changing ministry, 00:28:13.89\00:28:16.99 please call us now at 800-253-3000. 00:28:17.03\00:28:21.16 You can send your tax deductible gift 00:28:21.20\00:28:22.66 to the address on your screen. 00:28:22.70\00:28:24.17 Or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 00:28:24.20\00:28:28.00 Thank you for your prayers and for your financial support. 00:28:28.04\00:28:30.87 Our number again is 800-253-3000, 00:28:30.91\00:28:35.01 or you could visit us online at 00:28:35.04\00:28:36.71 itiswritten.com. 00:28:36.75\00:28:38.28 >>John: Dr. Michael Hasel, 00:28:38.81\00:28:39.98 thank you so much for joining me today on It Is Written. 00:28:40.02\00:28:41.58 >>Michael: It's a privilege. 00:28:41.62\00:28:42.65 >>John: It's a joy to see the Bible come to life. 00:28:42.68\00:28:45.09 It really is. Let's pray together. 00:28:45.12\00:28:47.52 Our Father in Heaven, 00:28:47.56\00:28:48.52 we thank You today that Your word is living, 00:28:48.56\00:28:52.06 it's dynamic, 00:28:52.09\00:28:53.03 it, it is alive. 00:28:53.06\00:28:55.26 And I pray that it would be alive in our lives. 00:28:55.30\00:28:58.17 There is somebody right now participating in this prayer 00:28:58.20\00:29:03.07 who needs the touch of God in her or his life, 00:29:03.10\00:29:06.01 who needs the power of Your Word to flow through that life 00:29:06.04\00:29:10.98 and that experience. 00:29:11.01\00:29:13.08 We thank You for a Savior who lived, who breathed, 00:29:13.11\00:29:16.92 who died, and who is soon to return to this earth 00:29:16.95\00:29:20.29 and take us home. 00:29:20.32\00:29:21.89 Let that day come soon, we pray, in Jesus' name, 00:29:21.92\00:29:26.09 amen. 00:29:26.13\00:29:27.66 ¤[Theme music]¤ 00:29:27.73\00:29:28.76 Thanks so much for joining us today. 00:29:28.80\00:29:30.27 I look forward to seeing you again next time. 00:29:30.30\00:29:32.27 Until then, remember: 00:29:32.30\00:29:34.30 "It is written, 00:29:34.34\00:29:36.10 'man shall not live by bread alone, 00:29:36.14\00:29:38.91 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" 00:29:38.94\00:29:42.64 ¤[Music]¤ 00:29:42.68\00:29:57.69