It has stood the test of time, God's book, the Bible. 00:00:06.23\00:00:16.11 Still relevant in today's complex world. 00:00:16.11\00:00:21.08 It Is Written ... sharing hope around the globe. 00:00:21.08\00:00:27.59 Thanks for joining me today. I'm John Bradshaw 00:00:35.73\00:00:37.80 and this is It Is Written. 00:00:37.80\00:00:40.54 [Music] On February 12 in the year 1809, 00:00:40.54\00:00:44.27 two men were born on either side of 00:00:44.27\00:00:46.88 the Atlantic Ocean who would go on to profoundly 00:00:46.88\00:00:49.54 affect the world. In Kentucky on that day 00:00:49.54\00:00:53.55 was born the man who would go on to become 00:00:53.55\00:00:55.38 the 16th President of the United States of America 00:00:55.38\00:00:58.19 - Abraham Lincoln - the man who would sign 00:00:58.19\00:01:00.66 the emancipation proclamation and lead the nation through 00:01:00.66\00:01:03.53 the turmoil of the Civil War. And on that very same day, 00:01:03.53\00:01:07.50 in Shewsbury, England, Charles Darwin 00:01:07.50\00:01:11.17 entered the world. Now, although he was far 00:01:11.17\00:01:14.04 from the first person to propose the idea of evolution, 00:01:14.04\00:01:16.84 Darwin went on to become known as 00:01:16.84\00:01:18.57 the Father of Evolution. He came to view what he saw 00:01:18.57\00:01:23.04 in the natural world as being explainable 00:01:23.04\00:01:26.51 by natural processes, and in 1859 he published 00:01:26.51\00:01:30.45 the book, "On the Origin of Species" 00:01:30.45\00:01:33.02 or by it's full name, "On the Origin of Species 00:01:33.02\00:01:36.16 by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation 00:01:36.16\00:01:39.09 of Favoured Races In the Struggle for Life". 00:01:39.09\00:01:42.83 It was a book that shook the world. 00:01:42.83\00:01:46.20 It's fair to say that prior to Darwin, 00:01:46.20\00:01:48.54 the western world was "largely" a creationist world. 00:01:48.54\00:01:52.57 But today, things are very different. 00:01:52.57\00:01:56.14 Gallup polls, in the United States reveal that while 00:01:56.14\00:01:58.75 nearly half of Americans believe in creationism, 00:01:58.75\00:02:01.75 32% - 1 in 3 more or less believe in evolution guided 00:02:01.75\00:02:05.92 by God, and 15% believe in atheistic evolution. 00:02:05.92\00:02:10.46 TV scientist Bill Nye - as quoted by CNN - as having 00:02:10.46\00:02:14.83 "slammed creationism", saying that if people 00:02:14.83\00:02:18.27 ignored evolutionary theory their worldview became "crazy", 00:02:18.27\00:02:22.77 and he urged adults not to teach biblical 00:02:22.77\00:02:26.11 creation to their children. So, what can a person 00:02:26.11\00:02:29.68 safely believe? The Bible begins with the words 00:02:29.68\00:02:33.55 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." 00:02:33.55\00:02:37.39 But a lot of people don't agree. I recently traveled 00:02:37.39\00:02:41.19 to Petersburg in Northern Kentucky, 00:02:41.19\00:02:43.22 near Cincinnati, Ohio, and I visited 00:02:43.22\00:02:45.39 the Creation Museum, where I spoke with scientist 00:02:45.39\00:02:48.10 Dr Terry Mortenson about creation and evolution. 00:02:48.10\00:02:53.13 I began by asking Dr Mortenson where the idea came from 00:02:53.13\00:02:56.67 that the Earth is millions of years old. 00:02:56.67\00:03:00.91 The idea of millions of years did not come from the rocks 00:03:00.91\00:03:04.58 and the fossils. It came from certain assumptions 00:03:04.58\00:03:07.62 that were used to interpret the rocks and the fossils 00:03:07.62\00:03:10.82 and those assumptions came out of antibiblical world views, 00:03:10.82\00:03:15.29 Deism, Atheism, where people rejected 00:03:15.29\00:03:17.76 the Biblical view of history. In contrast, 00:03:17.76\00:03:21.00 for the first 1800 years of church history 00:03:21.00\00:03:24.17 and for 1400 years before that among the Jews, 00:03:24.17\00:03:27.07 they took the Bible as the revelation of the Creator, 00:03:27.07\00:03:31.71 the early chapters of Genesis as true history, and so 00:03:31.71\00:03:35.84 the date of 6000 years roughly comes from the chronological 00:03:35.84\00:03:41.38 information given in Genesis. You said that we didn't get 00:03:41.38\00:03:44.59 from Creationism to Evolution because somebody made a 00:03:44.59\00:03:49.06 startling scientific discovery. How did we get here? 00:03:49.06\00:03:52.56 Many people coming out of the enlightenment rejected 00:03:52.56\00:03:55.53 the Bible and they began to say: 'We need to explain everything 00:03:55.53\00:03:59.93 by time, chance and the laws of nature.' 00:03:59.93\00:04:03.57 And so they started looking at the rocks. 00:04:03.57\00:04:07.31 They looked at the rock layers and made an assumption that 00:04:07.31\00:04:10.58 there's no way that a global flood could produce what 00:04:10.58\00:04:14.45 we are looking at. I mean these rock layers 00:04:14.45\00:04:17.49 are very thick. It must have taken millions 00:04:17.49\00:04:20.69 of years to deposit those. So what's science? 00:04:20.69\00:04:22.82 Or good science? Or responsible science? 00:04:22.82\00:04:24.76 Well, the word "science" in English comes from 00:04:24.76\00:04:27.36 the Latin word for science, and originally it just 00:04:27.36\00:04:31.53 meant knowledge. And so before the modern 00:04:31.53\00:04:35.14 scientific age, theology was a science. 00:04:35.14\00:04:38.74 In fact, it was called the queen of science, 00:04:38.74\00:04:40.71 the queen of knowledge. But in the wake of 00:04:40.71\00:04:44.98 the enlightenment and the development 00:04:44.98\00:04:46.68 of modern science, science became associated with 00:04:46.68\00:04:49.92 repeatable experiments and the development 00:04:49.92\00:04:54.02 of technology and so we started to build steam engines, 00:04:54.02\00:04:58.36 and railroads and electricity and those kinds of things 00:04:58.36\00:05:02.70 and what happened in the 18th and 19th Century was 00:05:02.70\00:05:07.34 what we can call the science of geology began to develop 00:05:07.34\00:05:11.67 and it was a different kind of science, 00:05:11.67\00:05:15.04 because it wasn't reproducing things in the lab, 00:05:15.04\00:05:18.21 it was looking at things out there in the world 00:05:18.21\00:05:20.55 and trying to reconstruct the unobserved past. 00:05:20.55\00:05:23.35 John Wesley Powell was the first geologist to go into 00:05:23.35\00:05:27.12 the Grand Canyon back in the 1860's. 00:05:27.12\00:05:29.56 Well, he went into the canyon already an evolutionist 00:05:29.56\00:05:33.16 and believing in millions of years. 00:05:33.16\00:05:35.73 So when he went into the Grand Canyon and saw these 00:05:35.73\00:05:37.90 massive layers , he just began to immediately 00:05:37.90\00:05:41.30 think: "Well, slow, gradual deposition laid down 00:05:41.30\00:05:45.24 these layers, and the Colorado River has just been 00:05:45.24\00:05:47.91 flowing for millions of years to carve this canyon. 00:05:47.91\00:05:51.15 [Music] Your Father God, 00:05:51.15\00:06:02.26 Your Creator and originator is also the God of the future. 00:06:02.26\00:06:06.36 In His ability to tell us what is still ahead, 00:06:06.36\00:06:08.86 He reminds us of His sovereignty and power over all things. 00:06:08.86\00:06:12.83 To help us trust Him, God has provided amazing 00:06:12.83\00:06:15.44 evidence of His reliability, and the reliability of His Word. 00:06:15.44\00:06:20.04 Today, I'd like to send you a booklet that demonstrates 00:06:20.04\00:06:22.28 how God foretold world events with absolute accuracy 00:06:22.28\00:06:25.81 thousands of years in advance. This booklet is called, 00:06:25.81\00:06:29.22 "Can God be Trusted?" and it's absolutely FREE. 00:06:29.22\00:06:32.39 Just call 1 (800) 253-3000 and 00:06:32.39\00:06:35.46 ask for "Can God be Trusted." If the line's busy, 00:06:35.46\00:06:38.86 please keep on trying. Or write to 00:06:38.86\00:06:41.36 It Is Written, P.O. Box 6, Chattanooga, TN 37401, 00:06:41.36\00:06:45.83 and we'll mail a free copy to your address in North America. 00:06:45.83\00:06:50.47 This is It Is Written, I'm John Bradshaw, 00:06:50.47\00:06:53.27 and today we're discussing creation and evolution 00:06:53.27\00:06:55.81 with Dr Terry Mortenson from the Creation Museum 00:06:55.81\00:06:58.48 in Northern Kentucky. I think we both know that 00:06:58.48\00:07:01.85 it's common for people today to view the world as 00:07:01.85\00:07:04.15 being millions and millions of years old, and to look 00:07:04.15\00:07:06.72 at the Grand Canyon as something that was produced over long 00:07:06.72\00:07:09.26 ages of time. I asked Dr Mortenson how, 00:07:09.26\00:07:13.93 in view of the science, that he can go to the Grand Canyon 00:07:13.93\00:07:19.57 and see an all together different picture. 00:07:19.57\00:07:23.04 Well, it's because I'm going in with an eye witness testimony. 00:07:23.04\00:07:27.21 When an evolutionist goes into the Grand Canyon, it's not 00:07:27.21\00:07:29.81 even a question on the radar, could a global flood 00:07:29.81\00:07:34.45 be responsible for what I'm looking at? 00:07:34.45\00:07:36.79 Whereas when I go in that eye witness testimony 00:07:36.79\00:07:39.72 of the Creator given to us in the Book of Genesis 00:07:39.72\00:07:43.16 is in the mind and we're looking ... is there evidence 00:07:43.16\00:07:48.60 in the rocks that points to this global flood? 00:07:48.60\00:07:53.57 Give me a scientific explanation for the Grand Canyon. 00:07:53.57\00:07:58.87 Well, there's a number of things that we show people 00:07:58.87\00:08:02.01 when we go into the canyon. One is a feature that's called 00:08:02.01\00:08:05.11 "Cross-bedding." you have very strong evidence 00:08:05.11\00:08:08.15 that that this very thick layer was laid down under 00:08:08.15\00:08:10.62 an enormous amount of water, moving at a good speed. 00:08:10.62\00:08:15.16 There is another feature that we show them. 00:08:15.16\00:08:17.83 They're called Nautiloids. They are fossils that are like 00:08:17.83\00:08:21.10 an ice cream cone, a pointed ice cream cone. 00:08:21.10\00:08:24.37 And they're related to squid. They have a head sticking 00:08:24.37\00:08:28.57 out of the cone, and there's about a seven 00:08:28.57\00:08:33.54 foot thick layer in the red wall limestone that is 00:08:33.54\00:08:37.81 about 400 feet thick that is just filled with these, 00:08:37.81\00:08:43.85 and they've been spotted in different places, 00:08:43.85\00:08:47.66 all the way through this layer, all the way up near Las Vegas. 00:08:47.66\00:08:50.86 There's an estimated billion or so of these creatures buried 00:08:50.86\00:08:56.06 in this one thin layer and Steve Austin, a Ph.D. 00:08:56.06\00:09:00.64 geologist did some research on them and he took a compass 00:09:00.64\00:09:04.54 and a GPS and he plotted where he found them all along 00:09:04.54\00:09:08.98 this layer in the Grand Canyon. He noted their orientation. 00:09:08.98\00:09:12.51 I think 15% of them are buried in an upright position 00:09:12.51\00:09:16.55 with their point down. He noted that they are not 00:09:16.55\00:09:20.49 all just higally pigally in all directions, but there's 00:09:20.49\00:09:23.22 a general indication ... I can't remember if it indicates 00:09:23.22\00:09:27.23 a flow from the Southwest to the Northeast or Southeast 00:09:27.23\00:09:30.00 to the Northwest, but what he argues in a paper, 00:09:30.00\00:09:34.54 which he presented to the National Park Service, 00:09:34.54\00:09:36.67 and they were very interested, the geologists, was that this 00:09:36.67\00:09:40.08 was a massive catastrophic event, mass burial of 00:09:40.08\00:09:47.18 these creatures, and that helps to explain the orientation 00:09:47.18\00:09:52.09 and that these cones are in an upright position, 00:09:52.09\00:09:55.36 because you wouldn't expect the creature to just die a natural 00:09:55.36\00:09:58.16 death and go down and sink into the ocean floor 00:09:58.16\00:10:01.00 and just stand there perfectly upright for hundreds 00:10:01.00\00:10:04.33 or thousands of years waiting to slowly get settled. 00:10:04.33\00:10:07.80 Another feature that we show a couple of places is 00:10:07.80\00:10:10.61 the folding of rock. Now you can bend solid rock 00:10:10.61\00:10:14.71 under high temperature and pressure but when you do, 00:10:14.71\00:10:17.81 you metamorphose or you change the structure of the rock 00:10:17.81\00:10:21.98 but in these examples that we show, 00:10:21.98\00:10:24.55 the rock stays exactly the same character all the way through 00:10:24.55\00:10:28.16 the bend. Many people have seen this 00:10:28.16\00:10:29.39 on the sides of roads, that type of figure, 00:10:29.39\00:10:31.36 where you get layers that fold and this is what 00:10:31.36\00:10:33.53 you're talking about, right? Right 00:10:33.53\00:10:35.03 When you see one of these layers rather than being flat 00:10:35.03\00:10:37.30 it kinda flows this way and that way. 00:10:37.30\00:10:39.37 OK, and so what do you see when you look at these layers? 00:10:39.37\00:10:42.10 Well, what that shows ... Doesn't it show ... 00:10:42.10\00:10:44.44 taking the Evolutionist viewpoint, doesn't it show, 00:10:44.44\00:10:46.57 well, this one laid down over 150 million years, 00:10:46.57\00:10:49.18 and then the next one came, because this is what 00:10:49.18\00:10:52.21 modern science typically teaches, correct? 00:10:52.21\00:10:54.52 Yes. That they laid down 00:10:54.52\00:10:56.58 over milions of years. But it wouldn't lay down 00:10:56.58\00:10:58.92 the layers so that it all flowed the same way 00:10:58.92\00:11:01.76 and if the rock layer is being deposited slowly, 00:11:01.76\00:11:07.66 and then you had an earthquake, which is what would cause 00:11:07.66\00:11:11.20 the movement ... Right 00:11:11.20\00:11:13.54 ...it would break the rock or if there was enough stuff above, 00:11:13.54\00:11:18.14 it would, with the heat and the pressure, would allow 00:11:18.14\00:11:21.91 it to bend, but it would transform 00:11:21.91\00:11:23.65 the character of the rock in the bend, and what we see 00:11:23.65\00:11:27.18 doesn't fit that at all. What it fits is the conclusion 00:11:27.18\00:11:30.99 that those rock layers were bent when they were still 00:11:30.99\00:11:34.42 relatively soft and moist, shortly after they were 00:11:34.42\00:11:38.29 deposited, and then the northeast end of 00:11:38.29\00:11:40.63 the Grand Canyon you have the Kaibab up where 00:11:40.63\00:11:42.86 the whole mile of sediments, which the evolutionists say 00:11:42.86\00:11:46.80 represents 300 million years of time, 00:11:46.80\00:11:49.64 the whole pile is bent the same direction, 00:11:49.64\00:11:52.17 which indicates strongly to creation geologists that 00:11:52.17\00:11:55.74 the whole pile was still relatively wet and moist 00:11:55.74\00:11:59.28 and soft. See, you've got me convinced. 00:11:59.28\00:12:02.55 And as I listen to you, I say to myself: Why doesn't 00:12:02.55\00:12:07.89 everybody believe this? Well, I come back to the Bible, 00:12:07.89\00:12:10.76 because that informs my understanding of the World 00:12:10.76\00:12:13.33 and the Bible says that all of us are sinners. 00:12:13.33\00:12:16.90 We're in rebellion against our Creator and Paul says 00:12:16.90\00:12:20.10 in the book of Romans, Chapter 1 and 2, 00:12:20.10\00:12:22.97 he says that the whole Creation bears witness to the existence 00:12:22.97\00:12:26.51 and at least some of the attributes 00:12:26.51\00:12:29.14 are characteristics of God and in Chapter 2, 00:12:29.14\00:12:32.01 he says that God has written his moral law in the heart 00:12:32.01\00:12:35.02 of every person. Our conscience tells us we 00:12:35.02\00:12:37.82 either did that right or we did it wrong 00:12:37.82\00:12:39.99 and what Paul says in Romans 1 is that people, we all do this 00:12:39.99\00:12:43.56 to a greater or lesser extent. We push down the truth. 00:12:43.56\00:12:47.36 We suppress that truth because we don't want 00:12:47.36\00:12:50.23 to deal with God. We don't want to deal 00:12:50.23\00:12:52.97 with our sin. You know, 00:12:52.97\00:12:54.34 there's a lot of discussion today about Intelligent Design, 00:12:54.34\00:12:57.97 and people saying there's strong evidence for a designer 00:12:57.97\00:13:02.34 and I agree with that, but it's fairly safe to 00:13:02.34\00:13:06.58 entertain the idea of a designer as long as you don't say 00:13:06.58\00:13:09.55 who the designer is. It could be aliens 00:13:09.55\00:13:11.99 in outer space. Well, it doesn't matter. 00:13:11.99\00:13:14.36 I can live my life the way I want, 00:13:14.36\00:13:16.73 but to consider a global flood and a young earth, 00:13:16.73\00:13:19.73 you're now face to face with the reality of a God 00:13:19.73\00:13:24.07 that the Bible describes is not only loving and merciful 00:13:24.07\00:13:28.04 and patient, but Holy and just. So if a person is not prepared 00:13:28.04\00:13:35.24 to really face that truth, they're going to suppress 00:13:35.24\00:13:39.18 the truth. They're going to find any other 00:13:39.18\00:13:41.95 explanation to evade that. It's not just Atheists 00:13:41.95\00:13:45.85 who embrace evolution, even Christians, 00:13:45.85\00:13:48.89 even Christian teachers and preachers. 00:13:48.89\00:13:50.63 Even Christian academics. Yep 00:13:50.63\00:13:53.63 Who claim to believe the Bible. 00:13:53.63\00:13:55.66 The Pope came out and said that evolution and at least how he 00:13:55.66\00:13:59.70 interpreted the Word of God, were not mutually exclusive. 00:13:59.70\00:14:04.27 How is that? If we believe the Bible 00:14:04.27\00:14:06.88 is the Word of God, then we need to carefully 00:14:06.88\00:14:09.31 look at what it says. And I find that a lot of 00:14:09.31\00:14:13.58 Christians, including Academics, who say: 00:14:13.58\00:14:15.75 'You know, the age of the earth doesn't matter, or you know, 00:14:15.75\00:14:18.35 you can even accept that God evolved the body of Adam 00:14:18.35\00:14:22.72 from an ape, and then he breathed into that 00:14:22.72\00:14:25.66 and that became Adam.' What is really disturbing to me, 00:14:25.66\00:14:29.56 John, is that as I read their writings, I don't see 00:14:29.56\00:14:33.10 them carefully handling the actual Biblical text 00:14:33.10\00:14:36.91 on the key verses. So it's easy to wave my hands 00:14:36.91\00:14:42.38 and say there's no conflict between this view and the Bible 00:14:42.38\00:14:45.85 if I don't look carefully at the text. 00:14:45.85\00:14:48.95 Is it possible to bring together the teachings 00:14:48.95\00:14:52.05 of creation and evolution? Not if you're really paying 00:14:52.05\00:14:57.39 attention to what the evolutionists say 00:14:57.39\00:14:59.46 and what the Bible says. Back with more in a moment. 00:14:59.46\00:15:03.33 [Music] Every Word is a one-minute 00:15:03.33\00:15:05.83 Bible-based daily devotional presented by 00:15:05.83\00:15:08.44 Pastor John Bradshaw and designed especially 00:15:08.44\00:15:10.77 for busy people like you. Look for Every Word on selected 00:15:10.77\00:15:14.48 networks or watch it on-line everyday on our website, 00:15:14.48\00:15:17.71 itiswritten.com. In 2 Corinthians 11:3 00:15:17.71\00:15:29.59 Paul shared a serious warning with the church in Corinth. 00:15:29.59\00:15:33.23 Notice what he said, "But I fear, lest somehow, 00:15:33.23\00:15:36.46 as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds@ 00:15:36.46\00:15:39.80 may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." 00:15:39.80\00:15:42.40 Eve was 'deceived', and the result of that deception 00:15:42.40\00:15:45.34 was that the world was plunged into misery and sin. 00:15:45.34\00:15:48.21 How could she NOT been deceived? Well, God had said to her, 00:15:48.21\00:15:52.41 "Don't eat the fruit of that tree." 00:15:52.41\00:15:55.12 Satan says, "Go ahead and eat this fruit." 00:15:55.12\00:15:57.25 At that moment she had a choice: Who would she believe? 00:15:57.25\00:16:00.89 Would she trust God's word and yield to that? 00:16:00.89\00:16:03.46 She didn't, and sin was the result. 00:16:03.46\00:16:06.39 You and I will avoid a whole lot of anguish if we'll do what 00:16:06.39\00:16:09.63 Eve didn't - if we'll choose to follow God's word instead 00:16:09.63\00:16:12.33 of that of the tempter. Put God's word first when 00:16:12.33\00:16:15.04 temptation comes today. Let's live today by Every Word. 00:16:15.04\00:16:19.81 Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written, 00:16:20.84\00:16:23.04 where we're looking today at creation and evolution. 00:16:23.04\00:16:25.71 I spoke with Dr Terry Mortenson at the Creation Museum 00:16:25.71\00:16:28.92 in Petersburg, Kentucky, and I asked him if it's possible 00:16:28.92\00:16:32.82 to bring together the teachings of creation and evolution. 00:16:32.82\00:16:38.53 Not if you're really paying attention to what 00:16:38.53\00:16:41.50 the evolutionists say and what the Bible says. 00:16:41.50\00:16:44.53 There's another very common argument in favor of evolution 00:16:44.53\00:16:48.74 and against Biblical creation that I want to ask you about. 00:16:48.74\00:16:53.24 That's carbon dating. Carbon dating ... 00:16:53.24\00:16:56.64 there are various dating methods using radioactive isotopes. 00:16:56.64\00:17:01.42 Carbon 14 is one, but carbon dating is never 00:17:01.42\00:17:04.52 used to date rocks. It's used to date former 00:17:04.52\00:17:07.99 living things where there's carbon in them, 00:17:07.99\00:17:10.13 so the maximum age you could date something with carbon 14 00:17:10.13\00:17:12.99 is about 80 thousand years. So, they use other methods. 00:17:12.99\00:17:17.43 They look at.... OK, well, how many uranium atoms 00:17:17.43\00:17:19.90 and how many lead atoms are there in the rock? 00:17:19.90\00:17:22.47 We have observed for 100 years that uranium decays into lead 00:17:22.47\00:17:26.51 at this X rate. They assume that it has always 00:17:26.51\00:17:31.81 decayed at that rate but the half-life for uranium to lead is 00:17:31.81\00:17:35.72 4.5 billion years. So, they didn't observe it 00:17:35.72\00:17:38.69 all that time. They've only observed it for 00:17:38.69\00:17:40.69 100 years and then they have extrapolated on the basis of the 00:17:40.69\00:17:44.09 assumption of a constant rate. Well, is that not 00:17:44.09\00:17:47.66 a fair assumption? It could be except that we 00:17:47.66\00:17:51.00 have creation scientists who have done a lot of research 00:17:51.00\00:17:54.30 on this area. They start with the eyewitness 00:17:54.30\00:17:56.50 of the Creator who says that the creation is only 00:17:56.50\00:18:00.28 a few thousand years old and there was a global flood 00:18:00.28\00:18:04.18 and then they go out and they look at the rocks. 00:18:04.18\00:18:07.52 They've taken rock samples and they look for things. 00:18:07.52\00:18:10.82 They ask questions about the rocks. 00:18:10.82\00:18:13.19 They probe in certain areas because they are starting with 00:18:13.19\00:18:16.62 that eyewitness and they found a lot of good evidence that 00:18:16.62\00:18:19.39 the decay rates have not been constant in the past, 00:18:19.39\00:18:23.16 that there were orders of magnitude faster 00:18:23.16\00:18:25.40 and if that were the case, that would shrink those millions of 00:18:25.40\00:18:28.50 years dates to thousands. Dramatically. 00:18:28.50\00:18:31.51 They used Carbon 14 to date coal. 00:18:31.51\00:18:33.78 These are dated anywhere from, I think, about 35 million 00:18:33.78\00:18:36.31 to 245 million years old, and they dated them with 00:18:36.31\00:18:40.22 carbon 14 and the dates they got back for all 00:18:40.22\00:18:47.29 of the ten samples at different levels and supposedly 00:18:47.29\00:18:50.33 different ages was all about the same. 00:18:50.33\00:18:54.30 I think it was about 58 thousand years. 00:18:54.30\00:18:57.57 Now, the creationists don't believe that's the real age of 00:18:57.57\00:19:00.17 the coal because they were using still the same naturalistic 00:19:00.17\00:19:04.71 assumptions that the evolutionists were using. 00:19:04.71\00:19:07.84 They believe that the flood would have a huge impact 00:19:07.84\00:19:10.41 on carbon dating. They also dated some diamonds. 00:19:10.41\00:19:14.22 The rock layer that enclosed the diamonds was something like 00:19:14.22\00:19:17.32 2 billion years old. They dated the diamonds, and the 00:19:17.32\00:19:21.29 dates for the diamonds with carbon 14 was only several 00:19:21.29\00:19:27.00 tens of thousands of years. So even though that's still 00:19:27.00\00:19:29.90 older than a young earth, it's radically different from the 00:19:29.90\00:19:32.90 assumption that one would ... And it's saying: How do you 00:19:32.90\00:19:36.50 get a diamond completely enclosed in a rock that is 2 00:19:36.50\00:19:39.44 million years old and the diamond is only 00:19:39.44\00:19:41.91 50,000 years old. There's something wrong here. 00:19:41.91\00:19:44.61 They've dated rock layers in the Grand Canyon. 00:19:44.61\00:19:47.62 There are lava flows over the top edge of the north rim 00:19:47.62\00:19:51.02 and the south rim that are dated by some methods to be older 00:19:51.02\00:19:55.12 than lava deposits down at the bottom of the canyon that 00:19:55.12\00:19:59.39 are supposedly at least 300 million years older than 00:19:59.39\00:20:03.70 the lava flows at the top. So what do we deduce from this 00:20:03.70\00:20:07.10 about carbon dating? These dating methods are not 00:20:07.10\00:20:09.77 telling us the true age of the rocks. 00:20:09.77\00:20:12.11 They are giving us erroneous dates because of several 00:20:12.11\00:20:17.71 key assumptions that the evolutionists use 00:20:17.71\00:20:21.22 to interpret what they see. So, they take their sample 00:20:21.22\00:20:25.65 and they get uranium and lead atoms. 00:20:25.65\00:20:27.72 That doesn't tell them the age. They have to plot this on 00:20:27.72\00:20:30.06 a chart and then they have to interpret what they are 00:20:30.06\00:20:34.00 looking at so that the uranium and the lead doesn't tell you 00:20:34.00\00:20:37.40 the age of the rock by itself. It has to be interpreted 00:20:37.40\00:20:40.70 and the interpretation is very much influenced by 00:20:40.70\00:20:44.34 the assumptions about the past. The flood. 00:20:44.34\00:20:48.84 Yep. The flood in Noah's day. 00:20:48.84\00:20:50.95 The Bible talks about it. It's very clear. 00:20:50.95\00:20:52.95 For a Creationist, the flood answers a lot of questions. 00:20:52.95\00:20:57.25 Give me some reasons quickly why we can believe that 00:20:57.25\00:20:59.95 there was a flood. Okay, well, let me start with 00:20:59.95\00:21:01.96 the Biblical because there are a lot of Christians who have 00:21:01.96\00:21:05.86 accepted the millions of years who believe that Noah's flood 00:21:05.86\00:21:08.53 was just an extensive but localized flood in 00:21:08.53\00:21:12.17 the Middle East but the Biblical text 00:21:12.17\00:21:14.70 from Genesis 6-8 is clearly describing a global flood. 00:21:14.70\00:21:18.87 If the flood was just in the Middle East, 00:21:18.87\00:21:20.84 no need to build an ark because the animals and 00:21:20.84\00:21:22.98 the birds outside the flood zone don't care and they could 00:21:22.98\00:21:25.58 repopulate the whole area if all the creatures died. 00:21:25.58\00:21:28.92 And God could have just told Noah to go on a vacation 00:21:28.92\00:21:32.72 to Europe. No need to build this huge boat. 00:21:32.72\00:21:36.12 So the purpose of the ark ... the fact that the Bible says 00:21:36.12\00:21:40.23 "all of the high mountains under the heavens are covered" 00:21:40.23\00:21:43.10 and since water seeks a level plain, 00:21:43.10\00:21:45.03 the only way you are going to cover the high mountains 00:21:45.03\00:21:47.70 is a global flood. Now, the Bible doesn't say that 00:21:47.70\00:21:52.51 the Himalayas were in existence before the flood. 00:21:52.51\00:21:55.21 The Himalayas are actually the result of the flood 00:21:55.21\00:21:58.91 and the mountain ranges, the major mountain ranges, 00:21:58.91\00:22:02.02 are all geologically recent. They are made of sedimentary 00:22:02.02\00:22:05.72 rocks that were once flat and were thrust up 00:22:05.72\00:22:09.29 so we don't have to assume that you had to have 29,000 feet 00:22:09.29\00:22:14.20 of water added to the ocean. So, there is a number 00:22:14.20\00:22:17.70 of factors. In Genesis it says that all 00:22:17.70\00:22:21.07 creatures in whose nostrils is the breath of life perished. 00:22:21.07\00:22:25.41 And then there's the rainbow promise in Genesis 9 that never 00:22:25.41\00:22:28.98 again would God flood the world with a global flood. 00:22:28.98\00:22:32.45 So biblically speaking, there is no way around the flood. 00:22:32.45\00:22:34.58 No. It was global 00:22:34.58\00:22:36.38 and it was catastrophic. and it's fundamental 00:22:36.38\00:22:38.25 to the Bible. Absolutely. 00:22:38.25\00:22:40.29 Geologically, we see massive layers, 00:22:40.29\00:22:43.22 massive that they can trap, for example, in India, 00:22:43.22\00:22:48.40 there's a massive lava flow, on a scale that we don't see today 00:22:48.40\00:22:52.57 and there are other places where just huge flows of lava that 00:22:52.57\00:22:57.97 changed into solid rock. That fits with the Bible. 00:22:57.97\00:23:04.01 The Bible says that the fountains of the great deep 00:23:04.01\00:23:06.38 burst open and that language we can study how those words 00:23:06.38\00:23:10.49 are used in the Bible and it's clearly speaking of 00:23:10.49\00:23:12.62 tectonic breaking of the crust of the earth. 00:23:12.62\00:23:15.86 We see sedimentary layers that are continent wide 00:23:15.86\00:23:20.86 or nearly so that are just massively extensive. 00:23:20.86\00:23:24.87 These are not the sediments of a river delta. 00:23:24.87\00:23:28.54 They're just too extensive. We see evidence of sea creatures 00:23:28.54\00:23:32.94 buried in these sediments. We see mass graveyards where 00:23:32.94\00:23:36.95 there are millions of creatures buried together in high 00:23:36.95\00:23:40.75 concentrations with all kinds of creatures buried together. 00:23:40.75\00:23:44.79 In many, we see land animals and sea creatures 00:23:44.79\00:23:47.49 buried together. They are not living I mean, 00:23:47.49\00:23:51.39 they are not buried where they lived. 00:23:51.39\00:23:53.40 They aren't even buried where they died. 00:23:53.40\00:23:55.16 They are buried where they are buried and as 00:23:55.16\00:23:57.47 we mentioned earlier, we see cross-bedding 00:23:57.47\00:24:00.94 which indicates turbulent flow of water. 00:24:00.94\00:24:03.94 The very fact that we find fossils speaks of a global flood 00:24:03.94\00:24:07.98 because if you have a creature die like around here, 00:24:07.98\00:24:10.55 we hunt deer all year round. I tell people most of the year 00:24:10.55\00:24:14.28 our people hunt with their car ... 00:24:14.28\00:24:16.85 laughter ... and they slam into a deer. 00:24:16.85\00:24:19.49 If you leave the deer on the side of the road 00:24:19.49\00:24:21.42 and the highway department doesn't come to pick it up, 00:24:21.42\00:24:23.73 scavengers and micro decay organisms will erase 00:24:23.73\00:24:26.63 the evidence. So to make a fossil, you have 00:24:26.63\00:24:29.56 to bury that creature fast and we see evidence of creatures 00:24:29.56\00:24:33.13 being buried alive. There are creatures with other 00:24:33.13\00:24:36.67 creatures fossilized in their stomachs so they didn't even get 00:24:36.67\00:24:40.34 to finish digesting lunch. There are fossilized worms. 00:24:40.34\00:24:44.28 There are fossilized animal manure. 00:24:44.28\00:24:46.78 You know, a cow pie doesn't lay on the field for years 00:24:46.78\00:24:51.89 in pristine condition. So there's folding in the rocks 00:24:51.89\00:24:56.59 and this speaks of catastrophic processes on a global scale. 00:24:56.59\00:25:04.17 It's interesting Christians, very often people who believe 00:25:04.17\00:25:09.17 in Creation are dismissed as not thinking. 00:25:09.17\00:25:12.97 But it seems to me that if you really think about how we got 00:25:12.97\00:25:15.48 here, Creation, a flood, divine intervention is the only 00:25:15.48\00:25:21.18 suitable, satisfactory explanation for the world 00:25:21.18\00:25:25.09 we see around us. The more I read, the more 00:25:25.09\00:25:27.49 I study, the more persuaded I am of the truth of the Bible. 00:25:27.49\00:25:33.50 Dr. Mortenson, thank you. Thanks for taking the time 00:25:33.50\00:25:37.17 to talk with us. 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And I'm grateful that you are 00:26:59.88\00:27:04.75 not only the Creator, but the Re-Creator. 00:27:04.75\00:27:09.36 David prayed, "Create in me a clean heart, 00:27:09.36\00:27:11.86 oh, God, and renew a right spirit within me," 00:27:11.86\00:27:14.56 and I pray now that you would be our Creator and 00:27:14.56\00:27:17.37 Re-Creator and create in me, in each of us, that right spirit 00:27:17.37\00:27:25.24 that you want us to have. Bless and keep us, Lord, 00:27:25.24\00:27:28.64 and be in our lives the God of creation and Re-creation. 00:27:28.64\00:27:32.35 And I thank you today in Jesus' name, Amen. 00:27:32.35\00:27:38.95 [Music] Thank you for joining me today. 00:27:45.96\00:27:54.44 I look forward to seeing you again next time. 00:27:54.44\00:27:56.97 Until then, remember: It written: 00:27:56.97\00:28:00.14 Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word 00:28:00.14\00:28:04.01 that proceeds from the mouth of God. 00:28:04.01\00:28:07.75