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>: It has stood
the test of time,
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God's book, the Bible.
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Still relevant in
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It Is Written.
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Sharing hope around the globe.
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John Bradshaw:
This is It Is Written.
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I'm John Bradshaw.
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Thanks for joining me today.
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My guest today
is Dr. Neil Nedley,
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the president of
Nedley Health Solutions.
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Dr. Nedley, thanks
for joining me today.
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Neil Nedley: Thank you.
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Great to be here.
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JB: We've spoken a
number of times on this program.
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It's always a
blessing to have you here.
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I'm grateful that you're willing
to take heavy topics head on,
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and tell us not maybe
what we always want to hear,
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but certainly according to
the Bible and good science,
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what we need to hear.
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NN: Yes.
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JB: And today we're going
to visit the subject of cancer.
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And here's why.
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Um, our health,
our physical health,
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our emotional health, our
mental health, is all very
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important in and of itself.
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But also very important as it
relates to our spiritual health.
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NN: Um-hum.
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JB: There's that old saying,
healthy body, healthy mind.
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Well, truth be told, when it
comes to our relationship with
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God, there's a whole
lot of truth in that.
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What's our immune system?
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How does it work?
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NN: Our immune system is there
to detect foreign invaders that
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are harmful to us.
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Or to detect abnormal cells
that, uh, are not really our own
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good cells and to destroy them.
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JB: Now, cancer cells
are those abnormal cells.
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Why doesn't our immune
system just see them and [snap]
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take them out?
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NN: Well, uh, often
because they look pretty similar
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to the original.
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JB: You mean you're saying that
the immune system sometimes just
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doesn't recognize cancer cells?
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NN: That's right.
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Exactly.
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And so it will leave it alone
thinking that it's actually a
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normal cell.
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JB: Okay.
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Now, are all immune systems
created, well, I suppose they're
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created equal, but to you and
I, or me and the guy next door,
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do we have essentially the
same immune system or is one up
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and one down?
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NN: No, one can be up and
one can be down in accordance
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with our lifestyle.
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So, what we're putting into our
bodies, what we're doing with
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our bodies, is either enhancing
our immune system or actually
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making it less effective.
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JB: Well, we want to have a
more effective immune system.
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NN: Correct.
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JB: How can we have that?
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NN: Well, uh, by
paying attention to what we're
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putting into our body.
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JB: Okay.
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Food, drink.
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NN: Food, drink, yes.
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And even important
vitamins like vitamin D.
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Uh, and A, C and E.
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And, uh, and
those sorts of things.
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JB: Share with me what science
says makes for a good immune
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system?
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List, list off some
of the foods we want.
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NN: The foods
high in antioxidants.
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So, your berries in particular.
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Raspberry,
blackberries, blueberries.
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JB: That's good.
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NN: Uh, you know,
strawberries very good.
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Even red grapes are very good.
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Kiwi, uh.
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JB: Very good.
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NN: Yeah.
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Cherries are actually
good antioxidant fruits.
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JB: Isn't it
interesting that God made,
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these are the fun foods.
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NN: Yeah.
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JB: You know.
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Who doesn't want to sit
down with a, with a plate of
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blueberries or
raspberries or strawberries,
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something like that?
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NN: Right.
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And fruit particularly decreases
the risk of, uh, of lung cancer.
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One of the most common cancers.
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JB: Fruit in general?
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NN: Yes.
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The more fruit.
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JB: I like that.
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NN: Even, uh, not only among
smokers, but also non-smokers,
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the study in southern California
on Seventh-Day Adventists showed
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that non-smokers can get lung
cancer, but they only get it
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about 20% as likely if
they're on a high fruit diet.
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So, it's important. Yeah.
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JB: So, these, the antioxidant
foods, whenever we talk about
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foods that are good for your
health, it seems as though leafy
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greens are always up there.
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Leafy green vegetables have
a positive impact on our immune
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system?
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NN: They do.
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Yup.
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Spinach, kale,
great antioxidants,
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garlic, onion, beets.
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JB: All right, not bad.
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NN: Yeah.
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JB: All right.
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I think we can,
we can handle that.
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NN: Yeah.
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Good foods.
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JB: Then here's a good thing.
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I want you to notice this.
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When you're talking
about looking after your immune
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system, this isn't onerous
or hard or awful or awkward.
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You know what it
sounds a lot like?
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It sounds a lot like the kind
of stuff grandma used to eat.
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And when I say grandma,
I mean, my wife's southern
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American grandma.
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Black-eyed peas and crowder
peas and beans and you know.
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NN: Yeah, yeah.
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JB: Food I never even heard of
growing up on the other side of
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the world, right?
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It's the sort of stuff
that grandma and her family,
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her, her brothers, they
all lived to be pretty old.
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NN: Right.
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JB: And yet on the other hand,
there were some aspects of their
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diet that was a disaster.
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NN: Yeah.
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JB: I wonder if the fact that
they ate some things that any
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doctor would say slow down
about, I wonder if that was
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offset by the very high
amounts of very healthy foods.
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Is there anything to that idea?
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NN: Well, yes, you
can offset it some.
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You know, for instance,
studies have shown that smokers,
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if they're on a high carotenoid
diet will only have one-third
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the risk of developing
lung cancer compared to smokers
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who are not on a good diet.
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But, if you take a non-smoker
who's not on a good diet,
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his chance of lung cancer
is only 1 out of 10 compared to
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the smoker who's on a good diet.
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So, in other words,
the cigarette smoking,
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the diet does help.
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JB: Okay.
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NN: And all of that, the immune
system does help, but if we
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overload the system with
carcinogens, we're going to
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likely pay for that.
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JB: Sure, sure.
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So, you can't say, you know,
I'm eating enough carotenoids.
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The carotenoid foods are the
yellows and the oranges, right?
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NN: Correct.
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JB: Whatever is yellow and
orange, that's good for you.
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NN: That's right.
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JB: Yeah, that's good to know.
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So, we can optimize our immune
system by eating well, I'm going
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to guess by, by sleeping well?
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NN: Getting enough
sleep, that's right.,
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JB: Exercise.
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NN: Exercise.
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Particularly aerobic exercise,
becoming fit is going to enhance
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your immune system.
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JB: And you said
vitamins A, C, E, and D.
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NN: Yes.
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Vitamin D it turns out is
the most crucial, if we were to
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weigh them against each other,
vitamin D actually prevents more
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cancers than A,
C, and E combined.
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JB: Combined.
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NN: Yeah.
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JB: Okay, we need the D.
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What's, where do I
find the vitamin D?
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NN: The sun.
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JB: Okay.
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Now somebody like me with very
fair skin, I need to make sure
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I'm getting just
enough and not too much.
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NN: That's right.
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You need to make sure
you're not getting too much.
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But here is what a lot
of people are not aware of.
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The sun prevents far
more cancer than it causes.
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JB: Is that so?
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NN: And so, if you are low
in vitamin D and you avoid the
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sunburn and thus avoid skin
cancers, you're actually going
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to have a much higher rate of
other cancers than if you would
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have gotten a little bit of
sunburn and gotten the benefits
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of the vitamin D.
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JB: I'm thinking though it's
not necessary to get sunburned
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to get enough sun.
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NN: It's not.
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JB: How, how much
sun is enough sun?
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Generally.
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And it may vary
from person to person.
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NN: Well, it
depends on where you're at.
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I know if it's a summer day in
the South, it doesn't take much,
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you know, 15
minutes and you're done.
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You've got enough vitamin D
and you're not going to burn
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yourself in 15
minutes in most cases.
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JB: Okay.
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NN: Um, so you don't need
all that much sun exposure.
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Now, you know, if you're
above Sacramento, California
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and all the way over to Boston,
Massachusetts in the winter time
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you're not
getting any vitamin D.
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So you need to get a lot in
the summer to store it over.
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JB: And you can store it up?
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NN: You can store it.
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Yeah, vitamin D is fat soluble,
so it's storable in the system.
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Uh, but, or you might need
to take vitamin D supplements.
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JB: What about folks who live
way north, up in Alaska, you
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know, where the sun barely even
pokes its head above the horizon
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for much of the year?
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NN: Yeah.
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They'll have very low vitamin D
levels and thus they have higher
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cancer rates.
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JB: They do, huh?
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NN: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Now, hopefully, they're outdoors
in the summertime, because even
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up in Alaska you can get some
vitamin D, you know, in midday
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in the summertime.
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JB: Yeah, yeah.
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Back to antioxidants.
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I understand there's a school of
thought where people are saying
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antioxidants may even be
bad for you if you have cancer.
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And so, I'm going
to ask you about that.
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NN: Okay.
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JB: In just a moment.
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There's more to talk about today
because when it comes to cancer
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there really is hope and
you want to know what that is.
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We'll be back with
more straight ahead.
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[Gentle Music)]
>: In Matthew 4:4,
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the Word of God
says, It is written,
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man shall not
live by bread alone,
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but by every word that proceeds
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from the mouth of God.
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"Every Word" is a
one-minute Bible-based daily
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devotional presented by Pastor
John Bradshaw and designed
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especially for
busy people like you.
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Look for "Every
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or watch it online
every day on our web site,
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ItIsWritten.com.
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Receive a daily spiritual
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Here's a sample.
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JB: One of the most
famous passages in the Bible,
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it's found in the 23rd Psalm.
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And no wonder, it's filled with
wonderfully evocative language
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that paints a remarkably
assuring and comforting picture
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of God.
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It starts by
saying in Psalm 23:1,
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"The Lord is my shepherd."
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David wrote this Psalm and
he knew by experience what a
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shepherd went through
to care for the sheep.
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Remember, David
spent time with the sheep.
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He defended them from harm and
he realized that the sheep were
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precious, valuable.
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A family's livelihood was
often bound up in that flock.
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When David says that the Lord is
our shepherd, you can know that
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God is telling us that he's
with us, he defends us, and he
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regards us as of great value.
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There's someone with
you today, be encouraged.
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The Lord is your shepherd.
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I'm John Bradshaw
for It Is Written.
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Let's live today by every word.
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JB: This is It Is Written,
thanks for joining me today.
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I'm John Bradshaw being
joined by Dr. Neil Nedley
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the president of
Nedley Health Solutions.
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Cancer, is there hope?
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Why does it matter?
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This is It Is
Written, I'll tell you why.
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We were designed and
made intentionally by a loving
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creator God.
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He put us on this earth
to live long and prosper.
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Yet because of sin entering
the picture, we are beset and
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dragged down and weighed down by
all kinds of diseases and what
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they do is they sap our lives
in so many ways, and ultimately
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negatively affect our
relationship with God.
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We don't want that.
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If cancer
strikes, is there hope?
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We're going to get to
that in just a moment.
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Dr. Nedley, I wanted to ask you
about antioxidants because there
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are some, and no doubt many have
heard this line of reasoning,
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antioxidants are bad
for you if you have cancer.
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Is there anything to that?
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NN: Yeah, well, the theory was
that since antioxidants protect
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cells from being damaged that
maybe they're protecting our
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cancer cells from the
chemotherapy destroying it.
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JB: Okay.
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NN: And so, many oncologists,
based on theory alone, no
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science behind it other than the
theory, were advising people to
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be on a very poor diet.
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JB: Oh, my.
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NN: Poor in antioxidants, while
they're on cancer treatment of
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radiation and chemo to make
sure the cancer gets destroyed.
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Well, in reality the
antioxidants protect our good
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cells and they don't
protect our bad cells.
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And so, what happens is
the longevity of people on
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antioxidants when they're on
cancer treatment is even higher
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because we want to
protect our good cells.
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And the unfortunate thing is
radiation and chemo can destroy
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some of the good cells.
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JB: Yes.
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NN: And that's why we can have
side effects that can be even
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deadly sometimes
from these things.
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Wherefore on a high antioxidant
program, uh, we're not going to
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protect our cancer cells
at all from these treatments.
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JB: Certainly, one
should always have faith in God.
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But what's the role for a
believer in God and somebody who
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stands on the Bible, what's
the role in their experience for
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things such as
radiation and chemotherapy?
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NN: Yeah, or maybe we could
even start out with surgery.
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I've heard it said that, hey,
you know, stay away from surgery
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because it's going
to spread your cancer.
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JB: Oh, that's wrong.
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NN: And it's going to
have all of those issues.
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And sometimes I've had
to remind these Christians
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which came
first, sin or surgery?
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JB: There you go.
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NN: And often they tell me,
well, of course, sin came first.
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Actually, no.
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Surgery came first and
both patients were satisfied
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with the results.
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JB: (laughs) Yes, that's right.
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Explain, for
somebody who didn't get that,
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what are you referring to?
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NN: Well, actually before
surgery there was anesthesia.
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JB: There you go.
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God caused Adam to fall into
a deep sleep and he performed a
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little surgical
procedure and removed a rib
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and by the time he
was done NN: That's right.
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JB: Adam was happy.
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NN: Exactly.
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And, well, God can, God can
guide the hand of the surgeon.
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JB: Yes.
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NN: Um, there are,
are skilled surgeons that
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the Lord can guide in actually
taking out these tumors.
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And, no, surgery
does not increase the risk
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of the cancer spreading.
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If it's confined and can
be taken care of that way,
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that's a good choice.
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JB: Some of the side effects
from chemotherapy and radiation
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can be brutal.
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Some can.
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So, is it a, a, a
denial of faith in God to go
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the medical route?
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NN: It's not.
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I'll tell you, there was a,
um, a patient of mine that had
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advanced breast cancer.
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She didn't come to me until her
breast cancer was very advanced
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and it was bleeding.
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Um, just huge,
she was, you know,
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a believer, and,
um, said that, you know,
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or believed that she shouldn't
have surgery or treatment.
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She was trying all these natural
remedies and her daughter was
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putting charcoal on it and
it was now getting into some
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significant arteries
and sometimes she would have
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significant massive bleeding.
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We were having to transfuse her.
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And she wouldn't be
convinced otherwise.
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Uh, and finally I came
into her and I gave her this
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illustration.
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I said, there was a cancer
on the earth, you know, when,
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for instance, when
the Amalekites first came
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across the Israelites, God
said, no, now is not the time.
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But eventually they got to the
place where if they would have
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continued to exist, the cancers
of sin that they would have
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produced on this
earth could have potentially
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wiped out the entire earth.
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JB: Right.
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NN: And so, the Lord
said, get rid of them,
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every last one of them.
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And in those battles
where Israel was told to fight,
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they often lost good
soldiers in those battles.
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JB: That's right.
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NN: And sometimes hundreds of,
uh, of Israelites were killed
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that were good people,
but it was for a good cause
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of wiping out a
cancer that was on the earth.
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And so, as I explained
that to her, I said, think of
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chemotherapy as warring
against your cancer cells.
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Yes, it may destroy
some good cells, but if your
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cancer cells are not destroyed,
this cancer will destroy you.
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That was eight years ago.
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After that, she told her family
to all leave who were trying to
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convince her into
chemo for, you know,
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quite a long period of
time, and she sat there with me
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and wanted to fully understand
what I was saying and then she
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had me leave the room and then
30 minutes later she had us come
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and she said, I'm made my
decision, we're going to undergo
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chemotherapy.
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JB: And she's alive today?
00:16:09.83\00:16:10.73
NN: And she's alive today and
that tumor shrunk right down.
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We put her on a good other
program, with good antioxidants
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and other things to try
to help protect those cells.
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But she is eternally grateful
because she would have been in
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the grave within a
matter of weeks, um,
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had that not taken place.
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JB: It's not a disavowal
of faith in God to seek good
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medical treatment.
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NN: That's right.
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JB: That's not to say all chemo
is right in all cases for all
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people in all situations.
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NN: That's right.
00:16:37.76\00:16:38.16
JB: Right.
00:16:38.16\00:16:38.73
NN: Right.
00:16:38.73\00:16:39.30
JB: And if you, if you go a
conventional medical route under
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the guidance of,
of good physicians,
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that's not to say you
can't do other things.
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Because you still
have faith in God.
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NN: That's right.
00:16:48.53\00:16:48.93
JB: And still do, do natural
things that wouldn't harm your
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immune system.
00:16:51.73\00:16:53.03
NN: But we do need to understand
that if cancer cells are not
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destroyed, they will destroy
you, and it gets down to the
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point where we have to
destroy every last one.
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JB: Yeah.
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NN: If there's one of
them there, it's going to start
00:17:01.53\00:17:03.90
reproducing and within several
years it's going to actually
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come back.
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JB: Cancer, is there hope?
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Why are we talking about this?
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Clearly God wants us
to live an abundant life.
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Cancer affects one in two men
and one in three women in the
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United States.
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Dr. Nedley, somebody has cancer,
invasive cancer, we've spoken
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just a few moments ago about,
uh, various options, but what,
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what does a person
do, should a person,
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could a person do
when they've got it?
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NN: Well, when they've got
invasive cancer, there's good
00:17:35.13\00:17:37.40
questions that they need
to ask their cancer doctors.
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What is, what is my likelihood
of cure with this treatment?
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What is my
likelihood of remission?
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Avail themselves of good
evidence-based treatments.
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But at the same time, they need
to see what they can do to get
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on the best nutrition
and lifestyle program.
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A lot of people have this
mistake thinking, hey, I've
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already god cancer, so
why change my lifestyle now?
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And studies show that if you
change your lifestyle for the
00:18:08.00\00:18:10.46
better, you
significantly improve your odds.
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For instance, if you have lung
cancer and don't quit smoking,
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your chance of cancer
recurrence is far higher than
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if you quit smoking.
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JB: Right.
00:18:20.33\00:18:20.96
NN: If you have colon cancer and
you continue to eat red meat,
00:18:20.96\00:18:25.00
your chance of recurrence
is higher than if you don't eat
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red meat.
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And so, what you need to
do is also get in touch with a
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clinician or a physician who
can give you the evidence-based
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therapies that can be utilized
in conjunction with traditional
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therapies that
can improve your odds.
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JB: Natural remedies.
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They come in all
different shapes and sizes.
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What are some that have been
demonstrated to help in, uh,
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the case of cancer?
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And I just want to say to
you, at the risk of sounding
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redundant, I'm not one who
advocates ignoring conventional
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cancer treatment and going the
whole hog on natural remedies.
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If God leads a person to do
that, that's fine, but I, I'm
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convicted that we should
really be wise about using, uh,
00:19:13.53\00:19:19.76
modern medical methods
that are available to us.
00:19:19.76\00:19:21.63
That having been
said, natural remedies?
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NN: Turmeric, for
instance, for breast cancer.
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Significant improvement when
combined, uh, with chemotherapy,
00:19:28.33\00:19:33.60
versus chemotherapy
with no turmeric on board.
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Turmeric not only can help with
breast cancer, it can help with
00:19:37.10\00:19:40.26
melanoma, it can help
with other forms of cancer,
00:19:40.26\00:19:43.90
even pancreatic cancer.
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Uh, feverfew,
uh, which is a plant,
00:19:45.76\00:19:48.60
uh, that's derived a
chemical called [parthenolide]
00:19:48.60\00:19:51.33
has been shown to be actually
more effective than the best
00:19:51.33\00:19:54.23
effective drug for
acute myelocytic leukemia.
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Resveratrol in combination with
other treatments has been show
00:19:58.16\00:20:02.16
to help with pancreatic cancer.
00:20:02.16\00:20:04.63
Uh.
00:20:04.63\00:20:06.10
JB: And we get resveratrol from?
00:20:06.10\00:20:07.66
NN: From red grapes.
00:20:07.66\00:20:09.06
Then there's,
um, pomegranate juice
00:20:09.06\00:20:12.10
for prostate cancer,
actually decreases the doubling
00:20:12.10\00:20:16.56
time of prostate
cancer significantly.
00:20:16.56\00:20:19.26
These are all peer-reviewed
scientific literature.
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You could log onto our web site
and actually see the references
00:20:22.23\00:20:25.56
and the
peer-reviewed, uh, research.
00:20:25.56\00:20:27.86
Here's kind of the, the
frustration that I have as
00:20:27.86\00:20:30.43
far as our medical society is
concerned, if you don't offer a
00:20:30.43\00:20:34.83
patient chemotherapy, um, you
can be committing malpractice.
00:20:34.83\00:20:39.50
But if you don't tell
them about pomegranate juice
00:20:39.50\00:20:43.00
in prostate cancer,
it's not seen as malpractice.
00:20:43.00\00:20:45.16
JB: Right.
00:20:45.16\00:20:46.63
NN: Uh, and it, it's because
of the bias that we have in the
00:20:46.63\00:20:49.70
pharmaceutical industry that is
so strong a lobby group, uh, and
00:20:49.70\00:20:55.40
there isn't any lobby group
for pomegranates, for instance,
00:20:55.40\00:20:59.10
because they don't cost
anything, there's no patent on
00:20:59.10\00:21:01.83
it and that sort of thing.
00:21:01.83\00:21:03.63
So, unless your doctor is
informed about peer-review
00:21:03.63\00:21:06.76
research, you may
never find out about that.
00:21:06.76\00:21:08.90
And so that's why it's important
for you to also talk to someone
00:21:08.90\00:21:12.73
who's familiar with the
peer-review research in cancer,
00:21:12.73\00:21:16.40
because it's a combined approach
that's going to improve your
00:21:16.40\00:21:19.23
odds of survival.
00:21:19.23\00:21:20.40
JB: That's what I say.
00:21:20.40\00:21:21.13
You want to do your homework.
00:21:21.13\00:21:22.60
But let's talk about prayer.
00:21:22.60\00:21:24.10
NN: Um-hum.
00:21:24.10\00:21:25.50
JB: I've spoken to people
who've had cancer and they said,
00:21:25.50\00:21:28.16
there's nothing like this cancer
to kick start or readjust my
00:21:28.16\00:21:33.10
relationship with God.
00:21:33.10\00:21:33.73
When you're, when you're
confronting your own mortality,
00:21:33.73\00:21:36.46
it makes you really
think about these things.
00:21:36.46\00:21:38.86
NN: There have
been studies on SRC.
00:21:38.86\00:21:41.50
SRC is the enigma of the
cancer researchers, it's called
00:21:41.50\00:21:46.63
Spontaneous
Regression of Cancer.
00:21:46.63\00:21:49.46
JB: Yeah.
00:21:49.46\00:21:50.36
NN: And these are people that
did nothing, but then they came
00:21:50.36\00:21:52.83
back expecting to die, told they
were given a death sentence, and
00:21:52.83\00:21:56.30
six months later they're not
dead, they're actually feeling
00:21:56.30\00:21:58.63
pretty good, and they come back
and have their scans and the
00:21:58.63\00:22:01.60
cancer is all gone.
00:22:01.60\00:22:03.40
There's been over 140 cases
now described in the medical
00:22:03.40\00:22:06.40
literature of SRC, and every one
of those cases involved prayer.
00:22:06.40\00:22:13.96
But it wasn't a
prayer for a cure,
00:22:13.96\00:22:17.26
interestingly enough.
00:22:17.26\00:22:18.56
Doctor Dawsey has
demonstrated this.
00:22:18.56\00:22:20.50
We have it in our
book "Proof Positive."
00:22:20.50\00:22:22.20
We, we show all
the research on this.
00:22:22.20\00:22:24.76
It was actually a prayer placing
the individual into the will,
00:22:24.76\00:22:29.40
into the hands of God.
00:22:29.40\00:22:31.20
And that person was committed to
doing God's will in their life,
00:22:31.20\00:22:35.30
thinking that
they were going to die.
00:22:35.30\00:22:37.06
But they just wanted to do his
will during the remaining few
00:22:37.06\00:22:40.40
weeks of their life.
00:22:40.40\00:22:42.63
And in some instances, you
can't explain it any other way,
00:22:42.63\00:22:46.46
the Lord was the one
who was the Great Physician
00:22:46.46\00:22:49.60
and touched them.
00:22:49.60\00:22:50.73
JB: You know, I've said this to
people many times and then when
00:22:50.73\00:22:53.90
I was dealing with
cancer, I, I, uh, way up
00:22:53.90\00:22:58.40
with what I was saying
meant anything or nothing.
00:22:58.40\00:23:01.26
There are worse
things than being sick.
00:23:01.26\00:23:03.43
There are worse things
than a terminal illness.
00:23:03.43\00:23:05.86
Because when we think about
this in the light of eternity,
00:23:05.86\00:23:09.00
whatever we go
through on this earth,
00:23:09.00\00:23:11.26
that's one
thing, but the point is
00:23:11.26\00:23:13.23
we want to get out of this earth
and into the world to come.
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NN: That's right.
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JB: So, really, I say this
with a great deal of respect,
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whether we live
or die, that's not
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really the important
question because we're all
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going to die anyhow.
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What's important
is what happens next.
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NN: That's right.
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JB: And even if a person has
a cancer that isn't going to be
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cured, it's what
happens next that's important.
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When your eyes open
again, will you see Jesus?
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Will there be a place for
you in God's eternal kingdom?
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And that's where
there is hope for everybody.
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NN: Yeah.
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The Book of James says that if
we pray according to God's will,
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he will raise up the sick.
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Now, it doesn't tell us
the time that that will occur.
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JB: That's right.
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NN: But, uh, we know that, uh,
if you are in the Lord's hands
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and you do die, you're going to
be healed in the resurrection.
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There's going to be
no cancer in heaven.
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And so maybe it's
the Lord's will that
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you're not healed until then.
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JB: And we want to
encourage you with that today.
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You know, there's
a lot you can do to
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strengthen your immune system,
stay away from certain things,
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be sure you're getting
the right antioxidants.
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Ah, and then what?
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Well, then you trust the Lord.
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Maybe somebody with cancer
is going to have radiation
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or chemotherapy or not.
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Maybe you're going to
drink some carrot juice
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or do something different.
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But there's hope.
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There's real hope
for healing, thank God.
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And ultimately there's the
guarantee of ultimate healing,
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because one day Jesus will come
back, he'll take us to a place
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the Bible says the inhabitant
of that place will not say,
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I am sick.
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God will wipe away
all tears from their eyes,
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there'll be no more
death, neither sorrow,
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nor crying, neither
will there be any pain
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because the former
things are passed away.
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But if you're facing in
your personal experience,
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in your family, with a friend,
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I want you to know
today, thank God there is hope.
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? [Heartfelt melody] ?
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JB: Dr. Nedley, again
thanks for joining me today.
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You've helped us to understand
there really is hope and we're
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encouraged through Christ.
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Thank you.
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NN: Yes.
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Thank you.
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JB: Let's pray, let's pray
and thank God for the hope he
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gives us through Jesus Christ.
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? [Warm and Heartfelt
melody] ? Our Father in Heaven,
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we are grateful.
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We thank you that as Dr. Nedley
has said, there are many things
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that we can do to improve our
odds, if I can put it that way,
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in the face of cancer.
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There are many things.
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And you can heal.
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You've done it
again and again and again.
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You can heal through
one means or another.
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You can heal.
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And ultimately we're grateful
to know that when Jesus returns,
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that in the earth made new,
we'll be healed, healed of any
00:27:14.33\00:27:18.13
physical malady and healed
from every spiritual malady that
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afflicted us
while on this earth.
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We thank you for hope today.
00:27:24.00\00:27:26.00
And we thank
you for Jesus today.
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And we pray in Jesus' name.
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Amen.
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NN: Amen.
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? [gentle tune] ?
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JB: Thank you
for joining me today.
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I look forward to
seeing you again next time.
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Until then,
remember It Is Written.
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Man shall not live by bread
alone but by every word that
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proceeds from the mouth of God.
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? [It Is Written Theme] ?
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