It has stood the test of time. 00:00:06.93\00:00:09.03 God4s book, the Bible. 00:00:12.33\00:00:14.83 Still relevant in today4s complex world. 00:00:16.90\00:00:20.10 It Is Written, sharing hope around the globe. 00:00:22.00\00:00:29.03 Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written. 00:00:36.76\00:00:38.43 I4m John Bradshaw. 00:00:38.43\00:00:40.06 To hear some people tell the story, if you believe that God 00:00:40.06\00:00:43.46 created the earth, then you4re out of touch, stuck in the 00:00:43.46\00:00:47.40 past, ignorant of science and backwards thinking. 00:00:47.40\00:00:51.90 Which would mean, of course, that the Bible cannot 00:00:51.90\00:00:54.86 then be trusted. 00:00:54.86\00:00:56.00 Its opening words say that God created the earth 00:00:56.00\00:01:00.23 and the opening chapter says he did it in six days. 00:01:00.23\00:01:03.43 It would also mean that Jesus was out of touch, stuck in the 00:01:03.43\00:01:07.46 past, ignorant of science, and backwards thinking. 00:01:07.46\00:01:11.33 After all, Jesus believed the creation story. 00:01:11.33\00:01:16.10 He said in Mark 10:6, from the beginning of the creation, God 00:01:16.10\00:01:21.23 made them male and female. 00:01:21.23\00:01:24.26 Jesus believed that God made Adam and Eve, 00:01:24.26\00:01:26.60 plain and simple. 00:01:26.60\00:01:27.90 And he believed that God made the Sabbath day, which was 00:01:27.90\00:01:31.63 given on the 7th day of the creation week. 00:01:31.63\00:01:34.33 Jesus said in Mark 2:27, "The Sabbath was made for man." 00:01:34.33\00:01:40.06 Made. 00:01:40.06\00:01:41.26 In the beginning, when God created the earth. 00:01:41.26\00:01:44.90 John 1:3 says, "All things were made by him." 00:01:44.90\00:01:50.06 While in Mark 13:19, Jesus referred to "the beginning of 00:01:50.06\00:01:54.26 the creation which God created." 00:01:54.26\00:01:57.80 In the Bible, Paul wrote about creation. 00:01:57.80\00:02:01.23 Peter wrote about creation. 00:02:01.23\00:02:03.36 John wrote about creation. 00:02:03.36\00:02:06.16 But a lot of people today do not believe that God 00:02:06.16\00:02:09.63 created the world. 00:02:09.63\00:02:11.53 Now, let's ask ourselves why that might be. 00:02:11.53\00:02:14.43 Is it because evolutionists are fools? 00:02:14.43\00:02:18.53 Well, I don't think that's the reason. 00:02:18.53\00:02:20.83 A lot of brilliant, well-educated people rejected 00:02:20.83\00:02:23.33 the Bible account of creation. 00:02:23.33\00:02:25.10 In fact, many evolutionists ask important questions about 00:02:25.10\00:02:28.63 origins that demand answers. 00:02:28.63\00:02:31.26 So, how is it that the Bible can say the earth is young, 00:02:31.26\00:02:34.73 just thousands of years old, and a respected scientist 00:02:34.73\00:02:38.13 relying on accepted scientific principles and practices, 00:02:38.13\00:02:41.00 would say that the Bible is wrong and not just wrong, 00:02:41.00\00:02:45.16 but wrong by millions and millions of years. 00:02:45.16\00:02:49.53 Can intelligent thinking people be scientifically 00:02:49.53\00:02:52.50 accurate while still believing what the Bible says 00:02:52.50\00:02:56.16 on the subject of creation? 00:02:56.16\00:02:58.23 To find out, I visited the creation museum 00:02:58.23\00:03:00.40 in Northern Kentucky. 00:03:00.40\00:03:01.96 A stone's throw from Cincinnati, Ohio. 00:03:01.96\00:03:04.66 The museum covers an area of 70K sq ft, a little less 00:03:04.66\00:03:08.30 than two acres, comfortably bigger than 00:03:08.30\00:03:10.30 a football field, and it's dedicated to promoting 00:03:10.30\00:03:13.10 the Biblical view of creation. 00:03:13.10\00:03:15.43 I spoke with Creation Museum president, Australian, Ken Ham. 00:03:15.43\00:03:19.63 And I started by asking him about theistic evolution, 00:03:19.63\00:03:24.53 the idea that evolution is a process used by God 00:03:24.53\00:03:28.40 to effect creation. 00:03:28.40\00:03:29.66 KH:: Within the church, and you know there are different 00:03:29.66\00:03:32.76 denominations, and so on, you will also find, as you know, 00:03:32.76\00:03:36.43 different views of eschatology dealing with end times, 00:03:36.43\00:03:39.93 different views even of baptism and different views 00:03:39.93\00:03:43.66 of other issues. 00:03:43.66\00:03:45.53 By and large, when you are arguing about such things 00:03:45.53\00:03:48.13 as eschatology or baptism or whatever it is, speaking in 00:03:48.13\00:03:53.06 tongues, or you know, a number of those different issues, 00:03:53.06\00:03:55.53 you are arguing from the Bible. 00:03:55.53\00:03:57.26 It might be people4s view of the church or people4s view of 00:03:57.26\00:03:59.56 Israel, or people4s view of Daniel, or Ezekiel or 00:03:59.56\00:04:02.23 Revelation, whatever it is. 00:04:02.23\00:04:03.26 JB:: Right. 00:04:03.26\00:04:04.26 KH:: But you see, the reason there are different views of 00:04:04.26\00:04:06.73 Genesis, like theistic evolution, for instance, is 00:04:06.73\00:04:09.66 not because you are arguing from Scripture, it's because 00:04:09.66\00:04:12.93 you are arguing outside of scripture. 00:04:12.93\00:04:14.93 You are really taking the secular view of the day 00:04:14.93\00:04:16.93 and you add it to the Bible in Genesis, and then you 00:04:16.93\00:04:19.93 have to reinterpret the clear words of Genesis, which means 00:04:19.93\00:04:24.83 that the big issue for me is it's an authority issue. 00:04:24.83\00:04:28.40 You are unlocking a door to say you don't have 00:04:28.40\00:04:30.53 to take this as written. 00:04:30.53\00:04:31.80 You are not using God's word to judge man's word. 00:04:31.80\00:04:34.40 You are using man's ideas outside of Scripture, which 00:04:34.40\00:04:36.70 you don't get from Scripture. 00:04:36.70\00:04:38.13 And then you are forcing them onto God's Word. 00:04:38.13\00:04:41.73 For instance, the Bible makes it clear. 00:04:41.73\00:04:44.16 God took dust and made a man. 00:04:44.16\00:04:45.76 So if you are going to believe in theistic evolution, you are 00:04:45.76\00:04:49.70 going to say God used evolution then the process of some 00:04:49.70\00:04:53.33 ape-like ancestor changing into humans, even in Matthew 19 00:04:53.33\00:04:56.30 when Jesus was quoting Genesis when talking about marriage, 00:04:56.30\00:04:59.23 he was talking about the one flesh, you know, 00:04:59.23\00:05:02.26 the fact that Eve came from Adam. 00:05:02.26\00:05:04.93 See, if you are going to believe in evolution, then 00:05:04.93\00:05:07.86 Adam came from an ape-man and Eve came from an ape-woman. 00:05:07.86\00:05:11.50 But, the Bible makes it very clear and Jesus himself, who 00:05:11.50\00:05:15.10 is the Word, and who is the Son of God, Jesus, quoted from 00:05:15.10\00:05:19.40 Genesis, talking about your one flesh, because the woman 00:05:19.40\00:05:22.36 came from the man. 00:05:22.36\00:05:23.66 She did not come from an ape woman. 00:05:23.66\00:05:26.33 And so, really, for theistic evolutionists, they are really 00:05:26.33\00:05:29.26 undermining Biblical authority because they are reinterpreting 00:05:29.26\00:05:31.50 God's word by forcing man's ideas on God's word. 00:05:31.50\00:05:34.46 Secondly, they are really destroying the whole basis 00:05:34.46\00:05:37.10 of marriage, if you think about it, 00:05:37.10\00:05:39.40 and of course, that all relates too to Christ and his 00:05:39.40\00:05:43.03 relationship to the church in the New Testament. 00:05:43.03\00:05:45.66 But there is even something else as well, and that's this. 00:05:45.66\00:05:49.30 All the different positions on Genesis, they all have one 00:05:49.30\00:05:52.56 thing in common. 00:05:52.56\00:05:53.56 JB:: What's that? 00:05:53.56\00:05:54.56 KH:: Putting millions of years in the Bible. 00:05:54.56\00:05:57.20 The idea of millions of years came from atheists, Deists, 00:05:57.20\00:06:00.53 people who believed in naturalism, who wanted to 00:06:00.53\00:06:03.16 explain life without God, wanted to get rid of the flood 00:06:03.16\00:06:06.80 of Noah's day, and they want to come up with a way of 00:06:06.80\00:06:11.06 explaining the world without God and so back in the late 00:06:11.06\00:06:14.70 1700s, early 1800s, these people postulated the idea 00:06:14.70\00:06:18.90 that the fossil layers we see over the earth's surface, 00:06:18.90\00:06:21.00 were laid down over millions of years, and that happened 00:06:21.00\00:06:24.03 before man. 00:06:24.03\00:06:26.43 And so you'll find that every one of the compromised 00:06:26.43\00:06:29.00 positions is people trying to come up with some new 00:06:29.00\00:06:33.20 sort of way or different way to fit millions of years 00:06:33.20\00:06:36.13 and/or evolution, sometimes, into the Bible. 00:06:36.13\00:06:40.16 And if you believe in millions of years, here's my challenge 00:06:40.16\00:06:43.06 for people. 00:06:43.06\00:06:44.40 If you take Genesis 1:29, 30, and you read it exactly 00:06:44.40\00:06:48.66 the same way that Jesus quotes from Genesis, then Adam 00:06:48.66\00:06:53.20 and Eve ate fruit, all vegetarian, and the animals 00:06:53.20\00:06:57.36 were vegetarian, they ate plants. 00:06:57.36\00:07:00.83 Now man wasn't told to eat meat until after the flood 00:07:00.83\00:07:03.80 Genesis 9:3 when God laid that out. 00:07:03.80\00:07:06.83 But originally, they were all vegetarian. 00:07:06.83\00:07:08.83 In the fossil record, supposedly existing millions 00:07:08.83\00:07:11.76 of years before man, if you believe in millions 00:07:11.76\00:07:13.76 of years, as a Christian, you've got 00:07:13.76\00:07:15.86 lots of examples of animals eating each other, fish eating 00:07:15.86\00:07:19.06 each other, bones in the stomachs of other animals, 00:07:19.06\00:07:21.96 and so on. 00:07:21.96\00:07:23.83 What are they going to do with that? 00:07:23.83\00:07:25.83 Ok. No. 2. 00:07:25.83\00:07:27.96 Doesn't the Bible clearly tell us in Genesis that as a result 00:07:27.96\00:07:31.46 of the curse, thorns and thistles came into existence? 00:07:31.46\00:07:35.40 JB:: That's correct. 00:07:35.40\00:07:36.40 KH:: The fossil record, said to be millions of years 00:07:36.40\00:07:39.26 before man, right? 00:07:39.26\00:07:40.43 There's a lot of examples of fossil thorns said to be 00:07:40.43\00:07:43.23 hundreds of millions of years old. 00:07:43.23\00:07:45.23 Wait a minute! 00:07:45.23\00:07:46.23 You've got all these thorns, millions of years before 00:07:46.23\00:07:49.66 man sinned? 00:07:49.66\00:07:51.16 Then thorns didn't come after the curse. 00:07:51.16\00:07:53.16 There are many examples of diseases in the fossil bones. 00:07:53.16\00:07:57.20 There are brain tumors. 00:07:57.20\00:07:58.36 For instance, there's a brain tumor in a dinosaur fossil, 00:07:58.36\00:08:02.16 evidence of abscesses, arthritis, cancer, all sorts 00:08:02.16\00:08:06.26 of diseases. 00:08:06.26\00:08:07.26 In fact, there are even medical researchers today who 00:08:07.26\00:08:10.20 use the fossil bones to help people understand how to look 00:08:10.20\00:08:14.96 for certain diseases and so on. 00:08:14.96\00:08:17.06 Now, when God finished creating everything, he said 00:08:17.06\00:08:19.60 everything he made was very good. 00:08:19.60\00:08:22.56 So, if you are going to believe in millions of years, 00:08:22.56\00:08:25.50 God said brain tumors were very good, cancer 00:08:25.50\00:08:27.50 was very good. 00:08:27.50\00:08:28.50 See, from a perspective of Scripture, you can't have 00:08:28.50\00:08:32.26 brain tumors, cancer, arthritis, abscesses that you 00:08:32.26\00:08:36.43 see in the fossil record, animals eating each other, 00:08:36.43\00:08:38.86 thorns, supposedly millions of years before man. 00:08:38.86\00:08:41.53 And so, therefore, the whole fossil record has to come 00:08:41.53\00:08:43.80 after sin. 00:08:43.80\00:08:45.33 And when you look at the fossil record, you see 00:08:45.33\00:08:49.23 these fossils laid down in sedimentary layers over 00:08:49.23\00:08:51.63 the earth. 00:08:51.63\00:08:52.63 How would explain billions of dead things buried in rock 00:08:52.63\00:08:56.53 layers, laid down by water all over the earth. 00:08:56.53\00:08:59.30 I mean, 70% of the earth's surfaces is covered 00:08:59.30\00:09:01.60 in sedimentary strata. 00:09:01.60\00:09:02.66 You know what the Bible actually tells us? 00:09:02.66\00:09:04.46 JB: What's that? 00:09:04.46\00:09:04.83 KH: That there was a global flood. 00:09:04.83\00:09:05.93 And if there really was a global flood, you'd expect to 00:09:05.93\00:09:07.50 find billions of dead things buried in rock layers, laid 00:09:07.50\00:09:09.73 down by water, all over the earth, and that's what 00:09:09.73\00:09:11.53 you find. 00:09:11.53\00:09:12.23 JB: And that's what you find. 00:09:12.23\00:09:12.83 KH: and you know what you find? 00:09:12.83\00:09:13.46 Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers laid 00:09:13.46\00:09:14.70 down by water all over the earth. 00:09:14.70\00:09:15.46 So what should you think when a fossil is discovered that 00:09:15.46\00:09:19.86 seems to indicated human beings were on Earth millions 00:09:19.86\00:09:24.20 of years ago - when the Bible says no such thing? 00:09:24.20\00:09:28.16 KH: In a way, that evidence that we do have 00:09:28.16\00:09:31.23 a Lucy is strong enough to actually draw out 00:09:31.23\00:09:35.20 a particular interpretation which is she was some kind 00:09:35.20\00:09:37.93 of ape. 00:09:37.93\00:09:39.30 JB: More in just a moment. 00:09:39.30\00:09:40.36 [Music] 00:09:40.36\00:09:44.03 In Matthew 4:4, the Word of God says, "It is written, man shall 00:09:50.83\00:09:56.80 not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds 00:09:56.80\00:09:59.86 from the mouth of God. 00:09:59.86\00:10:00.86 Every Word is a one-minute Bible-based daily devotional 00:10:00.86\00:10:04.66 presented by Pastor John Bradshaw and designed 00:10:04.66\00:10:07.60 especially for busy people like you. 00:10:07.60\00:10:09.83 Look for Every Word on selected networks or watch it 00:10:09.83\00:10:13.16 on-line everyday on our website: itiswritten.com. 00:10:13.16\00:10:17.40 Receive a daily spiritual boost. 00:10:17.40\00:10:19.40 Watch Every Word. 00:10:19.40\00:10:20.73 You'll be glad you did. 00:10:20.73\00:10:22.40 Here's a sample. 00:10:22.40\00:10:25.20 [Music] 00:10:26.33\00:10:32.16 When I read about a 14 year old girl executed for adultery 00:10:33.16\00:10:36.13 I was thankful that Jesus doesn't mete out justice 00:10:36.13\00:10:38.80 the way some people do. 00:10:38.80\00:10:40.73 The monarch of the universe - who could throw the book at 00:10:40.73\00:10:43.36 all of us if he wished - prefers to win us with love 00:10:43.36\00:10:46.10 rather than brutalize us. 00:10:46.10\00:10:47.80 Here's what God says in Jeremiah 9:24, "But let him 00:10:47.80\00:10:51.36 who glories glory in this, that he understands and knows 00:10:51.36\00:10:54.36 Me, that I am the LORD, exercising loving-kindness, 00:10:54.36\00:10:57.20 judgment, and righteousness in the earth. 00:10:57.20\00:10:59.56 For in these I delight," says the LORD." 00:10:59.56\00:11:02.16 Jeremiah 9:24 NKJV God's a God of justice, that's true. 00:11:02.16\00:11:05.13 But God deals kindly with His people. 00:11:05.13\00:11:07.43 He's patient and merciful towards sinners, and instead 00:11:07.43\00:11:10.06 of looking to do away with us He does all He can to win us 00:11:10.06\00:11:15.03 and convince us that He's good. 00:11:15.03\00:11:17.03 I hope you remember this verse today. 00:11:17.03\00:11:19.23 Unlike humans, God is only good. 00:11:19.23\00:11:20.70 I'm John Bradshaw for It Is Written. 00:11:20.70\00:11:22.13 Let's live today by Every Word. 00:11:22.13\00:11:24.96 This is It Is Written, thanks for joining me. 00:11:26.20\00:11:28.80 I'm John Bradshaw Today I'm discussing creation 00:11:28.80\00:11:30.96 and evolution with Ken Ham, the President of the Creation 00:11:30.96\00:11:33.86 Museum in Northern Kentucky. 00:11:33.86\00:11:36.13 Ken's been teaching creation for decades, so I asked him 00:11:36.13\00:11:39.36 about "Lucy". 00:11:39.36\00:11:41.40 In 1974, an American anthropologist working in 00:11:41.40\00:11:46.40 Ethiopia discovered fossilized remains of what became known 00:11:46.40\00:11:50.90 as "Lucy". 00:11:50.90\00:11:52.90 Lucy was actually about 40% of a skeleton. 00:11:52.90\00:11:56.56 Many people believe this skeleton to be several 00:11:56.56\00:11:58.86 millions of years old, and either a direct ancestor 00:11:58.86\00:12:02.30 of today's human beings, or closely related. 00:12:02.30\00:12:06.06 If Lucy is actually a human - or human ancestor - 00:12:06.06\00:12:09.03 and is 3 million-plus years old, there goes the idea 00:12:09.03\00:12:13.03 of a young Earth that is less than 10,000 years old. 00:12:13.03\00:12:16.23 So I asked Ken Ham if 40% of an old skeleton gives enough 00:12:16.23\00:12:20.66 evidence of human beings living millions of years ago. 00:12:20.66\00:12:24.33 KH: In a way, that evidence we do have of Lucy is strong 00:12:24.33\00:12:29.93 enough to actually draw out a particular interpretation that 00:12:29.93\00:12:34.46 she was some kind of ape. 00:12:34.46\00:12:35.56 And it is interesting. 00:12:35.56\00:12:37.56 See, when you dig up a skull, you can make, by using artistic 00:12:37.56\00:12:44.00 license, you can make the head on that skull look ape-like 00:12:44.00\00:12:49.76 or human-like. 00:12:49.76\00:12:51.36 You can take an ape skull and make it look a bit human-like. 00:12:51.36\00:12:54.26 You can take a human skull and make it look 00:12:54.26\00:12:56.36 ape-like. 00:12:56.36\00:12:57.36 If you want Lucy to be human-like, right? 00:12:57.36\00:13:02.53 Well, you want to have short arms, because apes 00:13:02.53\00:13:04.96 have longer arms. 00:13:04.96\00:13:05.96 And so, therefore, where the broken bones are, 00:13:05.96\00:13:07.96 they put them together but when you look 00:13:07.96\00:13:09.96 at them, they are tapered, indicating that they should 00:13:09.96\00:13:12.40 be apart. And so we put them apart to 00:13:12.40\00:13:14.40 where we believe they should be, showing she really had 00:13:14.40\00:13:20.66 long arms, right? 00:13:20.66\00:13:21.66 Like an ape, which is what the discoverer 00:13:21.66\00:13:23.66 of Lucy said she was. 00:13:23.66\00:13:24.66 Then, when you look at the leg bones, well, for the leg bones, 00:13:24.66\00:13:27.73 they want the opposite to happen. 00:13:27.73\00:13:30.23 Because apes have shorter legs so they want them to have 00:13:30.23\00:13:36.93 longer legs, so for the leg bones, they actually put those 00:13:36.93\00:13:38.93 bones apart whereas when we look at them, it looks like 00:13:38.93\00:13:41.13 they should be together and so, they do the opposite of 00:13:41.13\00:13:44.20 what they should do because they want to make it into 00:13:44.20\00:13:47.50 something that it really is not. 00:13:47.50\00:13:49.50 But when you've just got the bones and you 00:13:49.50\00:13:52.03 don't have the flesh and the hair and you can't 00:13:52.03\00:13:55.03 see it and so that's how people can be indoctrinated 00:13:55.03\00:13:58.13 in evolution because an evolutionist can take those 00:13:58.13\00:14:00.50 bones and arrange them in a particular way and you know, 00:14:00.50\00:14:03.83 shorten the arms, and lengthen the legs, or the rest of it, 00:14:03.83\00:14:07.43 you know, do what they want to do with them, and then put 00:14:07.43\00:14:11.33 flesh and hair on them and make it look sort of 00:14:11.33\00:14:14.63 half human-like. 00:14:14.63\00:14:15.63 They can make the eyes look a particular way and make it 00:14:15.63\00:14:18.86 look a bit humanlike, and that's what they do. 00:14:18.86\00:14:21.56 JB: I asked Ken Ham a question I think everyone has asked 00:14:21.56\00:14:25.16 at some time or another: how do you fit dinosaurs 00:14:25.16\00:14:28.20 into the Bible story, when the science tells us 00:14:28.20\00:14:31.66 dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. 00:14:31.66\00:14:34.60 KH: You've got crocodiles, and the nautilus, and 00:14:34.60\00:14:37.73 horseshoe crab and so on. 00:14:37.73\00:14:38.86 You've got these creatures, that according to 00:14:38.86\00:14:41.53 evolutionists, lived before dinosaurs, and then must have 00:14:41.53\00:14:44.66 lived with dinosaurs years ago and then supposedly dinosaurs 00:14:44.66\00:14:47.86 died out, then all these others lived on and they are still 00:14:47.86\00:14:52.16 living with us today. 00:14:52.16\00:14:53.56 So, the point is, these creatures are living with us 00:14:53.56\00:14:57.13 today so why is it even from an evolutionist perspective, 00:14:57.13\00:15:00.76 why is it so stupid to think that dinosaurs could not live 00:15:00.76\00:15:04.30 with people? 00:15:04.30\00:15:05.30 Now most people have the wrong idea about dinosaurs. 00:15:05.30\00:15:07.43 They think they are all great big monsters. 00:15:07.43\00:15:09.43 JB: A ha KH: Well the word dinosaur 00:15:09.43\00:15:11.43 was first invented 1841 by an Englishman, Sir. Richard 00:15:11.43\00:15:13.43 Allen and it comes from two Greek words, Dino Sauros 00:15:13.43\00:15:17.40 and translated, it means terrible lizard. 00:15:17.40\00:15:20.56 And so people get the idea that they are all great, 00:15:20.56\00:15:23.00 big monsters. 00:15:23.00\00:15:24.00 The average size of a dinosaur is only the size of a sheep, 00:15:24.00\00:15:27.80 a shepherd dog. 00:15:27.80\00:15:28.80 That's the average size. 00:15:28.80\00:15:29.93 There are many dinosaurs as small as chickens. 00:15:29.93\00:15:32.26 The mosasaurus when it hatched out of an egg, was only 00:15:32.26\00:15:35.60 the size of a mouse. 00:15:35.60\00:15:37.13 So we shouldn't get the idea that dinosaurs were all great 00:15:37.13\00:15:40.46 big monsters. 00:15:40.46\00:15:41.46 Secondly, people think that they were hundreds, 00:15:41.46\00:15:43.46 and hundreds, and hundreds of different type of dinosaurs. 00:15:43.46\00:15:45.90 Actually, there is only about 50 families of dinosaurs, 00:15:45.90\00:15:49.36 which means about 50 kinds. 00:15:49.36\00:15:51.63 Kingdom, Philem, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species 00:15:51.63\00:15:54.96 We would say, in most instances, not all, but most 00:15:54.96\00:15:59.36 instances, that the kind would be more at the family level 00:15:59.36\00:16:03.10 of classification. 00:16:03.10\00:16:05.00 And we have actually had, for instance, some scientists 00:16:05.00\00:16:07.53 working on how many kinds of land animals 00:16:07.53\00:16:11.10 are there on the earth. 00:16:11.10\00:16:13.16 Not species, but how many kinds, actual kinds. 00:16:13.16\00:16:15.90 Because you know deer and moose are the same kind, 00:16:15.90\00:16:18.46 alpacas, llamas, one hump camels, two hump camels 00:16:18.46\00:16:21.30 are all the same kinds, zebras, horses are all the same kinds. 00:16:21.30\00:16:24.23 That's why at the petting zoo here, we have a zorse and 00:16:24.23\00:16:27.03 a zedonk and so on. 00:16:27.03\00:16:29.03 Actually our scientists believe there is probably 00:16:29.03\00:16:31.63 about a thousand kinds of land animals which means.. 00:16:31.63\00:16:37.53 JB: 50 odd kinds of dinosaurs KH: and 50 kinds of dinosaurs, 00:16:37.53\00:16:41.03 well there's 50 families of dinosaurs, so there 00:16:41.03\00:16:43.63 are about 50 kinds. 00:16:43.63\00:16:44.06 We would say dinosaurs were made on day six 00:16:44.06\00:16:46.33 because all land animals were made on day six 00:16:46.33\00:16:48.63 of the creation week. 00:16:48.63\00:16:49.30 We believe those days are ordinary days. 00:16:49.30\00:16:51.06 The Hebrew word Yom, when it's used with evening, morning, 00:16:51.06\00:16:54.10 number or night means an ordinary day. 00:16:54.10\00:16:56.40 JB: 24 hour period KH: The only reason that many 00:16:56.40\00:16:58.13 Christians don't believe that is not because of what 00:16:58.13\00:16:59.96 the Hebrew words mean, it's because they are trying 00:16:59.96\00:17:03.10 to force millions of years into the Bible. 00:17:03.10\00:17:04.50 You take It as Written, in fact, that's where our 7-day 00:17:04.50\00:17:06.30 week comes from, Exodus 20:11, the basis of the Fourth 00:17:06.30\00:17:09.90 Commandment: In six days the Lord made the heavens 00:17:09.90\00:17:11.80 and the earth and rested on the 7th day and God blessed 00:17:11.80\00:17:13.90 the Sabbath day and made it holy 00:17:13.90\00:17:15.16 and so a seven day week is based upon 00:17:15.16\00:17:18.50 the creation week. 00:17:18.50\00:17:19.50 You know, if God made everything in six million 00:17:19.50\00:17:21.30 years and rested for millions of years, we could go into 00:17:21.30\00:17:23.10 retirement now. 00:17:23.10\00:17:24.00 JB: Yes we could. 00:17:24.00\00:17:24.53 KH: So you see those days are ordinary days. 00:17:24.53\00:17:28.33 On day six, God made the land animals and he made the first 00:17:28.33\00:17:30.63 two people, Adam and Eve. 00:17:30.63\00:17:31.70 Dinosaurs are land animals. 00:17:31.70\00:17:32.93 Dinosaurs were beside Adam and Eve. 00:17:32.93\00:17:35.13 See, I have people say to me, "but the word dinosaur is not 00:17:35.13\00:17:37.00 in the Bible." 00:17:37.00\00:17:38.00 I say, well, of course not. 00:17:38.00\00:17:40.30 You know, why isn't the word dinosaur in the Bible? 00:17:40.30\00:17:43.10 Well, the same reason you don't have the word EMAIL 00:17:43.10\00:17:46.30 in the Bible. 00:17:46.30\00:17:46.63 Right? 00:17:46.63\00:17:47.03 It's a modern word. 00:17:47.03\00:17:48.03 JB: Sure KH: The word dinosaur is 00:17:48.03\00:17:50.03 a modern word. 00:17:50.03\00:17:51.03 It was made up in 1841. 00:17:51.03\00:17:52.03 In fact, I do believe there is a dinosaur described 00:17:52.03\00:17:55.43 in detail, in the Bible, more than most other animals. 00:17:55.43\00:17:58.90 In the book of Job, JB:The Behemoth 00:17:58.90\00:18:01.16 KH:Job 40:15, he says "behold, Behemoth," 00:18:01.16\00:18:05.06 talking to Job and about this animal that lived with him, 00:18:05.06\00:18:08.43 he said he was a chief of the ways of God 00:18:08.43\00:18:10.26 The Hebrew language there implies it's the largest land 00:18:10.26\00:18:12.73 animal God made and the largest animal 00:18:12.73\00:18:14.80 we know of that lived on the land from what we 00:18:14.80\00:18:17.10 found is one of the Sauropod dinosaurs. 00:18:17.10\00:18:19.30 Now they did grow very large, by the way, but even they had 00:18:19.30\00:18:22.23 some eggs, which would not have been much bigger than 00:18:22.23\00:18:24.56 the size of a football. 00:18:24.56\00:18:25.53 That's the biggest egg we found, you know, 00:18:25.53\00:18:28.10 dinosaur eggs. 00:18:28.10\00:18:29.16 But, Behemoth, everything about it is big and strong. 00:18:29.16\00:18:32.40 Has a tail like a cedar tree. 00:18:32.40\00:18:34.80 You know. 00:18:34.80\00:18:36.10 And some of the Bible notes, I notice in some of the Bibles 00:18:36.10\00:18:38.23 say it was an elephant or hippopotamus. 00:18:38.23\00:18:40.50 Have you ever seen an elephant's tail? 00:18:40.50\00:18:42.63 It looks like a piece of rope dangling down. 00:18:42.63\00:18:44.23 Or if you see a hippo tail, you know, it's like 00:18:44.23\00:18:45.90 a flap of skin. 00:18:45.90\00:18:47.56 You know, a cedar tree? 00:18:47.56\00:18:49.13 No, I don't think so. 00:18:49.13\00:18:50.30 It's more, we believe the description 00:18:50.30\00:18:52.90 of a Sauropod dinosaur. 00:18:52.90\00:18:54.43 You see, people say, well what happened to the dinosaurs? 00:18:54.43\00:18:57.60 Well, why aren't you interested in the dodo bird? 00:18:57.60\00:18:59.43 What happened to the dodo bird? 00:18:59.43\00:19:00.93 What happened to.. 00:19:00.93\00:19:02.46 what? 00:19:02.46\00:19:02.83 The Moa? 00:19:02.83\00:19:03.40 JB: The Moa in New Zealand. 00:19:03.40\00:19:04.56 That's right. 00:19:04.56\00:19:05.26 Great big bird, 9 feet tall. 00:19:05.26\00:19:06.30 KH: It's gone now. 00:19:06.30\00:19:07.33 JB: Gone. 00:19:07.33\00:19:07.86 KH: I mean, there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds 00:19:07.86\00:19:09.96 of animals that have become extinct. 00:19:09.96\00:19:11.20 But people think it's the dinosaurs that are the big 00:19:11.20\00:19:13.53 mystery but there are lots of animals that 00:19:13.53\00:19:15.60 are becoming extinct. 00:19:15.60\00:19:16.16 Because of changing conditions and I mean that's why we have 00:19:16.16\00:19:18.83 endangered species programs. 00:19:18.83\00:19:19.80 I tell people the reason dinosaurs became extinct is we 00:19:19.80\00:19:22.63 didn't start our endangered species programs early enough. 00:19:22.63\00:19:24.76 This is It Is Written. 00:19:24.76\00:19:28.36 I'll have more with Ken Ham in just a moment. 00:19:28.36\00:19:31.20 [Music] 00:19:31.20\00:19:40.96 Eyes for India is giving sight to the blind and you can 00:19:49.73\00:19:53.23 be a part of this amazing work that God is doing. 00:19:53.23\00:19:56.40 15 million blind people live in India, more than any other 00:19:56.40\00:19:59.80 country in the world and many of the blind in India could see 00:19:59.80\00:20:03.43 again if only they could have simple cataract surgery. 00:20:03.43\00:20:07.53 It Is Written is making that happen. 00:20:07.53\00:20:10.43 Would you support Eyes for India? 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00:21:05.46\00:21:06.46 JB: Oh yes I do. 00:21:06.46\00:21:07.46 KH: Where did you get that from? 00:21:07.46\00:21:09.46 JB: Right out of the Bible. 00:21:09.46\00:21:10.46 KH: Out of the bible? 00:21:10.46\00:21:11.46 JB: Yeah. 00:21:11.46\00:21:12.46 KH: So you take that as the authoritative Word of God. 00:21:12.46\00:21:14.46 JB: Most definitely. 00:21:14.46\00:21:15.46 KH: So you believe in the virgin birth too? 00:21:15.46\00:21:17.46 JB: Sure, it's right there in the Bible. 00:21:17.46\00:21:19.46 KH: Now wait a minute, wait a minute. 00:21:19.46\00:21:21.46 Secular scientists say that you can't have a man rising 00:21:21.46\00:21:23.46 from the dead, and you can't have a virgin birth. 00:21:23.46\00:21:25.46 You know, if I was to go through the Bible and what I 00:21:25.46\00:21:27.46 call our mainline churches, and I was to say: Do you 00:21:27.46\00:21:29.46 believe fed thousands of people is a miracle? 00:21:29.46\00:21:31.40 JB: Oh, they'll say yes, sure. 00:21:31.40\00:21:32.40 KH: They'll say yes. 00:21:32.40\00:21:33.40 How do you know? 00:21:33.40\00:21:34.40 The Bible says. 00:21:34.40\00:21:35.40 Do you believe Jesus walked on water? 00:21:35.40\00:21:37.40 Oh yes. 00:21:37.40\00:21:38.40 How do you know? 00:21:38.40\00:21:39.40 The Bible says. 00:21:39.40\00:21:40.40 Do you believe that a man was swallowed by a fish? 00:21:40.40\00:21:42.40 And lived in a fish for three days? 00:21:42.40\00:21:44.40 How do you know? 00:21:44.40\00:21:45.40 The Bible says. 00:21:45.40\00:21:46.40 As soon as you get to Genesis in this day and age, and even 00:21:46.40\00:21:48.40 in the church and you say, what God created in six days, 00:21:48.40\00:21:50.40 man was made from dust, woman from his side, there was 00:21:50.40\00:21:52.73 a global flood, death came after sin, here is what 00:21:52.73\00:21:55.00 we hear. 00:21:55.00\00:21:56.00 Oh no. 00:21:56.00\00:21:57.00 Why not? 00:21:57.00\00:21:58.00 Well because outside of scripture here, 00:21:58.00\00:22:00.06 because these ideas of millions of years, because of evolution. 00:22:00.06\00:22:02.06 You've got to reinterpret the days, you've got to do this 00:22:02.06\00:22:04.06 and here's the point. 00:22:04.06\00:22:06.03 What is happen is this. 00:22:06.03\00:22:07.06 If we don't take a stand on the creation account in Genesis 00:22:07.06\00:22:11.03 and we allow outside ideas to reinterpret that, we are 00:22:11.03\00:22:15.86 unlocking a door and the door we are unlocking is we are 00:22:15.86\00:22:18.66 telling coming generations that you don't have to take 00:22:18.66\00:22:21.76 God's word as written here. 00:22:21.76\00:22:23.76 It puts them on a slipperly slide of unbelief through 00:22:23.76\00:22:25.86 the whole of Scripture. 00:22:25.86\00:22:27.43 You tell me to believe this bit of the Bible over here, 00:22:27.43\00:22:30.06 but this bit doesn't matter. 00:22:30.06\00:22:31.73 I can take mans ideas and reinterpret here, 00:22:31.73\00:22:34.06 but I am not allowed to do that over here. 00:22:34.06\00:22:36.16 It's hypocrisy. 00:22:36.16\00:22:38.50 God's word came under attack at the beginning 00:22:38.50\00:22:41.50 and that attack has continued down through the ages. 00:22:41.50\00:22:44.03 It's never abated. 00:22:44.03\00:22:45.53 It's the same attack yet it manifests itself in different 00:22:45.53\00:22:48.73 ways and different eras of history. 00:22:48.73\00:22:51.30 For instance, when Peter and Paul were preaching 00:22:51.30\00:22:53.30 about the resurrection, did they ever get the question: 00:22:53.30\00:22:55.63 Hey, that's all very well, preaching about 00:22:55.63\00:22:57.63 the resurrection. 00:22:57.63\00:22:58.63 What do you do with carbon dating? 00:22:58.63\00:23:00.70 Did people like Martin Luther, when he nailed the thesis on 00:23:00.70\00:23:02.70 the door of the church, did someone come up to him and say 00:23:02.70\00:23:05.56 that's all very well to nail those on the door 00:23:05.56\00:23:08.40 of the church. 00:23:08.40\00:23:09.40 I want to know about dinosaurs. 00:23:09.40\00:23:10.96 Well, the word dinosaur was not invented until 1841. 00:23:10.96\00:23:13.66 My point is this. 00:23:13.66\00:23:14.73 There is a particular Genesis 3 attack in our day. 00:23:14.73\00:23:18.13 People in past ages had to deal with all sorts of attacks 00:23:18.13\00:23:22.83 on the Bible. 00:23:22.83\00:23:24.00 Gnosticism and all sorts of heresies and so on. 00:23:24.00\00:23:27.53 I believe today that the teaching of evolution, 00:23:27.53\00:23:30.60 millions of years, big bang and so on, that permeates 00:23:30.60\00:23:33.83 the world, wherever you've got an education system, 00:23:33.83\00:23:36.83 access to the internet, access to television, 00:23:36.83\00:23:39.46 people have heard of evolution millions of years. 00:23:39.46\00:23:42.76 It permeates museums around the world, zoos around the 00:23:42.76\00:23:45.53 world, just about everybody has heard about evolution 00:23:45.53\00:23:48.06 of millions of years. 00:23:48.06\00:23:49.06 I believe that it is the Genesis 3 00:23:49.06\00:23:51.30 attack of our day. 00:23:51.30\00:23:52.73 You know, your salvation is not conditioned upon the age 00:23:52.73\00:23:57.63 of the earth of whether you believe in evolution or the 00:23:57.63\00:24:00.16 days of creation. 00:24:00.16\00:24:01.33 The condition is upon faith in Christ, right? 00:24:01.33\00:24:04.86 But believing in evolution for millions of years doesn't 00:24:04.86\00:24:08.56 necessarily affect your salvation. 00:24:08.56\00:24:10.56 There are many Christians that believe in millions of years. 00:24:10.56\00:24:14.23 Many Christians that believe in evolution. 00:24:14.23\00:24:16.86 But what it does affect is how the next generation views 00:24:16.86\00:24:20.43 Scripture itself. 00:24:20.43\00:24:22.06 What I have given you is a long answer to get back 00:24:22.06\00:24:25.86 to the fact that the issue is one of authority. 00:24:25.86\00:24:29.40 Who is the authority? 00:24:29.40\00:24:30.33 God or man? 00:24:30.33\00:24:31.80 And when you let man be an authority over God's word 00:24:31.80\00:24:34.86 and reinterpret God's word because of outside ideas 00:24:34.86\00:24:37.46 you are unlocking a door so the next generation tend not 00:24:37.46\00:24:40.66 to believe the Scripture as much and the next generation 00:24:40.66\00:24:43.40 doubt and disbelieve even more and as time goes on, 00:24:43.40\00:24:48.03 you would expect to see more and more in the younger 00:24:48.03\00:24:52.10 generations of leaving the church, walking away from 00:24:52.10\00:24:54.60 the church as exactly what we see. 00:24:54.60\00:24:57.06 JB: That's what we see today. 00:24:57.06\00:24:58.20 [Music] 00:24:58.20\00:25:04.26 Creation or evolution? 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00:27:17.06\00:27:19.10 We thank you today and we pray praising you, in Jesus' name, 00:27:19.10\00:27:23.90 Amen. 00:27:23.90\00:27:29.90 Thanks for joining me today. 00:27:46.00\00:27:47.06 I look forward to seeing you again next time. 00:27:47.06\00:27:49.26 Until then, remember: It is written, man shall not live by 00:27:49.26\00:27:54.33 bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from 00:27:54.33\00:27:57.96 the mouth of God. 00:27:57.96\00:27:59.96