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JB: This is It Is
Written. I'm John Bradshaw.
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Thanks for joining me today.
When you come to the Bible,
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you come face to face
with the God of heaven.
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A God who is
intimately concerned with what's
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going on here, on the earth.
God is not an absentee landlord;
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He didn't just wind the earth
up like a clock and leave it
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to run and come back
when the alarm finally rings.
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God loves this world so
much that the Bible says
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He gave His only begotten
Son, so that those of us
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who believe in Him
should not perish but
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would be separated
from sin, joined to Him,
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and receive everlasting
life. My guest today is
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Dr. David DeRose, a
doctor of internal medicine
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and a doctor of
preventive medicine.
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He comes to us from
Compass Health Consultants
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in Northern
California. Dr. DeRose,
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thanks for joining me today.
DD: Great to be with you, John.
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JB: Jesus came to
this earth, the Bible says,
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to give us a more abundant life.
Now, for some people that means
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all of one thing and
little of anything else.
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But the abundant life
that Jesus came to give us was
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balanced life,
wasn't it. A balanced life.
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DD: It's interesting you should
mention that, because as I
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read through the Gospel of Mark,
for example, I see Jesus very
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concerned that we
not go to extremes.
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Let me give you an example.
In March chapter 3, Jesus is
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dealing with something that
I believe we deal with today,
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and that is many people who
take the name of Christian--
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they take the
name of God fearing--
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they're doing a
disservice to the God of heaven.
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I mean, in Jesus'
day, think about it.
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In Mark 3, Jesus
comes in contact with a man
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with a withered
hand. It's interesting.
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The context is
He's in the synagogue.
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He's in a place of worship--
JB: He's right there in church.
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DD: That's right.
He's there in church.
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And yet it says, in verse
2, that those who were there
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were watching Him closely,
whether He would heal this man
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on the Sabbath so
that they would accuse Him.
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The religious leaders don't have
a balanced Christian experience.
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They're so focused on
"the rules of religious living"
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that they're missing
out on what's happening.
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The real drama is
this man's physical need.
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JB: They weren't seeing his need
anymore, they were so out of
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balance that all they could
do was think about circling the
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wagons and defending
the rules of the day.
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DD: In the
beginning, God gave the Sabbath
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as a day of
celebration, a day of rejoicing
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in what God had done. It
was humanity's first day,
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their first full
day was the Sabbath.
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All they could do is
rejoice in not what they had de,
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but what the creator
had graciously given them.
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JB: After all, He
gave it as a day or rest,
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a day of rejuvenation,
a day of fellowship,
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a day of worship. A day off.
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Who doesn't want a day off?
DD: But the amazing thing is,
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I think a lot of the
reaction, John, goes back
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to the same mentality
that Jewish leaders had.
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And they said, "I don't want
to be bound about by something."
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This man is
bound on the Sabbath.
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And what's amazing
is what Jesus does.
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He says, "Is it lawful on
the Sabbath to do good or to do
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evil, to save life or to
kill." It says the leaders
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remained silent. JB:
They couldn't find it within
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themselves to speak
the truth because, well,
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they couldn't handle
that. DD: It says Jesus looked
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around at them with anger.
But His words, that He speaks,
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are words of healing, because as
that man stretches out his hand,
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it says he stretched it
out and it was made whole
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like the other. Jesus,
on the Sabbath, is saying
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this is what Sabbath is about.
This is what fellowship with Me
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is about. If you
think religion is a bunch
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of rules and
restrictions, look at Me,
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the God of the
Sabbath. JB: And Jesus said,
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"If you've seen me,
you've seen the Father."
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DD: That's right.
JB: So if you really want
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to know what God is
like, look at Jesus.
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The Sabbath today, as part of
this overall subject of living a
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balanced Christian life,
is there evidence that it's
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actually good for
you? DD: This is amazing.
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Researchers, the
Ansons, in Israel
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looked at this question.
They were looking more broadly,
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they were trying to look
over a period of 10 years,
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a full decade,
looking at everyone
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living in Israel. And
they were asking a question:
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Would they see any
rhythmicity to death rates?
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Would there be times of year
during the Day of Atonement,
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Yom Kippur. Maybe
the death rate would
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go down or it would go up.
Would there be any relationship
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to the weekly
Sabbath, for example.
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So they're looking at
this. Ten years of time,
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they analyze it.
Computer analysis, published
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in the medical literature.
They titled their study
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"Death Rests a While."
What they found is that on the
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Sabbath, from sundown
Friday to sundown Saturday,
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the Bible Sabbath,
death rates plummet.
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But not in everyone. You
see, just like Sunday is the
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day of rest in many places
in the world, it's a day off,
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it's a holiday for everyone
regardless of what their
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religious beliefs are-- at
the time they wee doing this,
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the day of rest in
Israel was Saturday.
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So whether you were a Jew or
a Palestinian, you were off work
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on that seventh day.
So they asked a question:
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Well, is it just a phenomenon
of people not working?
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No drop in death
rates for the Palestinians.
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JB: Only for those people who
were observing the Sabbath from
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a spiritual point of
view, as an expression
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of their relationship with God.
DD: Whether that's the whole
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explanation, or even the secular
Jews that were still bonding
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in community on that day.
Because, when they wrote the
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article in the medical
journal they didn't make a big
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point about the
spirituality of the day,
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but its social connectedness.
And so it's quite interesting.
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Also, you'll find
this interesting, John.
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The young children,
less than 5 years of age,
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they had no
decrease in mortality.
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So presumably only those that
could fully appreciate what this
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day of rest
meant got the benefit.
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JB: Sabbath rest is
just part of rest as a whole.
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It's important that people
who are wanting to be well
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physically and spiritually and
emotionally take time to rest.
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DD: That's right. JB:
How important is rest?
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DD: Well, rest
is hugely important.
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Most of the research
we see is on daily rest.
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Getting that adequate sleep,
which for most people is seven
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to eight hours, maybe eight
and a half hours in some cases.
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Even more sleep than that may be
deleterious, but many of us are
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short-changing
ourselves on sleep.
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It's messing up our
hormonal rhythms, ramping up
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stress hormone levels,
increasing rates of diabetes,
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high blood
pressure, heart disease,
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heart rhythm
problems, mental health issues.
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The list goes on and on.
JB: Except, you know someone's
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going to say, oh but I'm a
night person, and I find that
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once the kids go to bed
and it's 10:30 at night,
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I'm productive until 2 in
the morning, and then I've got
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to get up at 6 and go to work.
DD: Well, there's just as few
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interruptions early in
the morning as there are
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late at night. And the
interesting thing is if
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you look at hormonal rhythms
in the body, like melatonin
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and growth
hormone-- which are two of
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the hormones that restore us
from the wear and tear of the
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day-- those hormones are
made best early in the night.
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So getting to bed before
midnight seems to have some
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unique benefits. JB: Excellent.
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So if we're living a balanced
life, we've got to get rest.
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And God built into our religious
experience rest, when He wrote
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the Ten
Commandments. DD: That's right.
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JB: Okay, in a moment let's talk
about this idea of a balance
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being moderation in
all things. Don't go away.
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I'll be back with Dr.
DeRose; we'll have more
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in just a moment.
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JB: There were some fixtures in
the life of Jesus that enabled
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Him to stay connected to
His Father and His faith.
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One of them is
mentioned in Luke 4:16.
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"And he came to Nazareth
where he had been brought up,
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and as his custom was,
he went into the synagogue
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on the Sabbath day
and stood up for to read."
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The weekly Sabbath
rest was important to Jesus.
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But these days it's more common
for people to reduce the Sabbath
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to an hour, or a morning.
The Bible says weekly Sabbath
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rest is a memorial
of Jesus' creative power
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and His power to recreate.
And it's also good for you.
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For Jesus, it was indispensable,
and not simply because
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He was Jewish. Jesus
saw the blessing of that
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weekly time with God and
the benefit of stepping back
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from the busyness of life.
And that's something that's
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good for all of
us. I'm John Bradshaw
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for It Is Written. Let's
live today by every word.
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JB: This is It Is
Written. I'm John Bradshaw.
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Thanks for joining me
today. My guest today is
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Dr. David DeRose. We're
talking about balance in
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the Christian experience,
and looking at how that balance
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promotes physical
and spiritual health.
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A moment ago I said that I would
challenge this idea that some
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people have that moderation
means a little of everything,
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or not overdoing it in
certain areas of our life.
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Now, we can see-- and
you mentioned a moment ago--
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getting the right amount
of rest means getting enough
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and not too much.
Too much is bad for you.
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But how about when people say,
"Well, I drink, but not a lot.
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Everything in
moderation. Just a little,
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I'm a social drinker perhaps."
Everybody would acknowledge, too
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much alcohol bad for a person.
But how much is too much?
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DD: If you have an addictive
relationship with something,
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whether it nicotine or alcohol,
pretty clear-cut that your
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best path to success--
and some people would say
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your only path to
success-- is making a complete
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break with the things
that were pulling you down.
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But beyond that, we
can talk about things like
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alcohol as well as other
things that are often considered
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popular in "moderation"
that have some downsides
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that most people
are totally ignoring.
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JB: What are the downsides
about alcohol that people
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are overlooking? DD:
Well one, when it comes to
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alcohol, is actually
its risk of malignancy.
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Cancer rates are clearly linked
to even moderate drinking.
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Classic scenario is
breast cancer in women.
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We're talking about a few drinks
a week measurably increasing the
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risk of breast cancer in women.
JB: That's a significant thing
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because there are all kinds of
women who would think it's okay
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to have a little wine here
or there, or one drink a day,
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and yet a few drinks a
week raise measurably the risk
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of breast
cancer. DD: It's not just
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a women's issue.
Not all that long ago,
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a huge European
study called EPIC,
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the European Perspective
Investigation into Cancer and
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Nutrition looked into
alcohol intake and cancer risk.
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And in the report the
author said, in so many words,
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there is no safe
level of alcohol consumption
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when it comes
to cancer. JB: Now,
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people think about nicotine.
There are few people who would
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say, "Well, a little
isn't going to hurt you."
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But evidently there are
some. DD: Well, there are some
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actual benefits to nicotine.
For example, we know that people
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that use nicotine have less
of a serious inflammatory bowel
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condition known as
chronic ulcerative colitis.
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JB: I wasn't expecting you to
talk about benefits of nicotine,
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being a physician and
all, but that's fascinating.
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DD: But let me
tell you the flip side.
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JB: But the flip
side of that is--
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DD: There's another serious
inflammatory bowel condition
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that is more pervasive,
affects more of the bowel,
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than ulcerative colitis.
That just affects the colon.
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There's something
called Crohn's disease.
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It is also related to nicotine,
but its risk is increased.
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So, I don't know of
any gastroenterologists,
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intestinal specialists,
that are recommending
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as a preventive to use nicotine.
Of course, it's a risk factor
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for gastritis and ulcers
and other things as well.
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The point here simply is
this, John: If we have a myopic
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enough vision, and I suffer
from myopia-- nearsightedness--
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but if we apply that problem
to our look at certain lifestyle
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factors we could say, oh
yeah, there's some good in this.
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But we don't want to settle
for that, we want to look at
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the big picture. JB: It
seems that every time you
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turn around you hear about the
benefits of drinking red wine.
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Tell me about these
so-called benefits and
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where the benefit really
is. DD: Well, go back to Europe.
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The Oxford vegetarian
study. Looking at people
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on a healthy diet,
zero heart benefits from
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moderate alcohol consumption.
Nothing. No benefit.
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Now, having said that, in
America if you look at a person
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on the average
phytochemically depleted diet--
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in plain English, that
means they're not eating
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enough fruits and vegetables.
There are things in alcoholic
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beverages that have benefit.
After all, every alcoholic
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beverage I know is made
from a plant that God gave us.
00:14:06.61\00:14:09.58
Okay? JB: That's right.
00:14:09.58\00:14:11.08
DD: So there's
some good things in it.
00:14:11.08\00:14:12.58
So if you're not eating enough
fruits and vegetables, there's
00:14:12.58\00:14:14.55
some evidence that
moderate alcohol consumption--
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if you're sure you can keep
it moderate-- might decrease
00:14:17.55\00:14:20.59
your risk of heart disease.
But it will still increase your
00:14:20.59\00:14:23.22
risk of high triglycerides and
high blood pressure and cancer
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and gastrointestinal problems
and cirrhosis and mental
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health issues. JB:
And so there's benefit on
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the one hand and real
problems on the other.
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DD: And the benefit is only
if you're on a poor lifestyle.
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So I tell patients, and I
tell people when I'm lecturing.
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I say, "You don't want to
be on a poor lifestyle so that
00:14:40.08\00:14:42.61
alcohol would
help you." JB: Right.
00:14:42.61\00:14:44.61
Now, there's something that many
people aren't getting enough of.
00:14:44.61\00:14:46.95
Lots of people are getting
too much alcohol, but if you're
00:14:46.95\00:14:49.42
looking to live a balanced
life many people are not getting
00:14:49.42\00:14:51.95
enough exercise.
You can't really say,
00:14:51.95\00:14:54.96
"Well, I got my five
minutes of exercise to day."
00:14:54.96\00:14:57.63
But how do we get
enough exercise when we're just
00:14:57.63\00:14:59.36
too busy to get
exercise. What do you do?
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DD: I tell people, look
at exercise as an investment.
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And it pays you interest
and dividends right away.
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You're going to be more
productive if you take 30
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minutes out of
your day-- I mean,
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you may need to work up
to it, I mean 30 minutes
00:15:15.84\00:15:17.65
may be too much for
someone-- but if you work up
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to getting significant amounts
of exercise on a daily basis,
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your mind will be
clearer, your energy level
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will be better, you
will be more productive.
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You're not
wasting time in exercise,
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you're investing time.
JB: What are the best forms of
00:15:29.69\00:15:31.59
exercise a person can get?
DD: Probably the single best
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category of
exercise, looking broadly
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at the
literature, is useful work.
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Doing it outdoors is preferable.
So, getting out in the garden,
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chopping wood,
pushing a lawn mower,
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these things engage the mind,
00:15:47.41\00:15:49.34
they have a level of rest
and stress relief that's not
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afforded by walking on
that treadmill while you're
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watching CNN. JB:
Walking on the treadmill
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is going to be okay,
right? DD: It's okay.
00:15:58.95\00:16:01.46
It gives you benefit.
JB: Anaerobic exercise
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that you get, that's
all right. DD: It gives you
00:16:03.69\00:16:05.86
aerobic exercise.
JB: Aerobic rather,
00:16:05.86\00:16:07.60
not anaerobic.
But the very best,
00:16:07.60\00:16:09.76
what I'm hearing you
say-- and we've discussed this
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before-- is exercise
that engages or benefits
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the mind as well as the body.
And that's a concept that's
00:16:16.67\00:16:20.01
foreign to a lot of people.
Exercise where your mind is
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distracted from the stressors of
daily life and is connected to
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those things that are going
to give you a mental and an
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emotional rest as well.
DD: But it goes beyond that,
00:16:30.99\00:16:33.92
because not only are
you distracted from problem.
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When you're done with a
30-minute session on the
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treadmill and you
look back at the treadmill,
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nothing's changed.
But when you look at that
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unchopped wood, and you
see a pile of chopped wood;
00:16:45.30\00:16:48.54
when you see the
plants planted in the garden,
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there's a sense of
accomplishment and fulfillment
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that you don't get with
the other forms of exercise.
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JB: Right. So being balanced,
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exercise should benefit
you physically and emotionally
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and ultimately
spiritually. Correct?
00:17:02.52\00:17:04.65
DD: Yes. And many
people have found that
00:17:04.65\00:17:06.25
some of their best thinking,
whether it's spiritual or
00:17:06.25\00:17:09.16
creative work, happens
when they're out engaged,
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doing something.
JB: Somebody that's
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overweight-- and
they know they are;
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morbidly obese;
just big, big big--
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what do they do?
Where do they begin?
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What should they do in order
to regain their health and live
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a balanced life? DD:
One of the things that Jesus
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said to a woman who was
overcome with a sense of sin was
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"Neither do I
condemn you." And I think,
00:17:31.75\00:17:35.48
in the Christian world,
we have this blessing of
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realizing that no matter what
we look like, our acceptance
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with Jesus isn't the
issue. If we start from that
00:17:43.83\00:17:47.83
perspective,
that can empower us.
00:17:47.83\00:17:49.63
Because many people
are so pressed down.
00:17:49.63\00:17:52.40
I mean, obesity is one of
those things that you can't hide
00:17:52.40\00:17:55.27
from and everyone sees it.
So, if we start treating people
00:17:55.27\00:17:59.27
as Jesus treated them, and if we
see ourselves as Jesus sees us,
00:17:59.27\00:18:05.58
this can free us to
embrace lifestyle change,
00:18:05.58\00:18:09.65
not as a burden
but as a blessing.
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JB: Instead of a radical change
in what you eat, you might just
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want to start making incremental
healthy changes so that you get
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to the place where what you
eat isn't packing on the pounds,
00:18:18.99\00:18:21.83
but it's helping
you take pounds off.
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DD: I often tell
people, I would rather them
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make a few small changes
that they plan to stick with
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for the rest of their life
than to make a bunch of huge
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changes that they have
no intention of embracing
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on a lifelong basis.
JB: And I would encourage
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someone to do this: to
claim the promises of God.
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In Philippians it says,
"It is God who works in you,
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both to will and to do
for his good pleasure."
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So when we're thinking
about living a balanced life,
00:18:48.12\00:18:50.13
no matter where we're starting
from, it's possible to do
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because Christ is
with us. A balanced life.
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God's gift to you.
This is what He offers you,
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and it's going to be
productive and blessed.
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I'll have more
with Dr. David DeRose
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in just a moment.
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JB: Thanks for joining
me today on It Is Written.
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God wants us to
live a balanced life.
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That's not a life that says well
a little bit of everything's
00:20:44.77\00:20:47.61
okay; but more of
the good, less of the bad
00:20:47.61\00:20:51.88
until it's all of
Jesus living His life in you.
00:20:51.88\00:20:54.82
That's the right
balance. Now, Dr. David DeRose,
00:20:54.82\00:20:57.25
I'm so grateful
you're here with me today.
00:20:57.25\00:20:59.09
And I just want to ask,
what's the role of faith
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in God, or
trust in divine power,
00:21:01.09\00:21:03.26
in living a
healthy, balanced life?
00:21:03.26\00:21:05.19
DD: Well, one of the big
benefits is actually where
00:21:05.19\00:21:07.60
our focus is. You
know, we mentioned earlier
00:21:07.60\00:21:10.37
in this account in Mark 3 about
how it's said that Jesus looked
00:21:10.37\00:21:14.97
around at the
religious leaders with anger.
00:21:14.97\00:21:19.17
The reason I singled that out is
many people in Christian circles
00:21:19.17\00:21:22.34
haven't heeded Paul's
admonition where he says,
00:21:22.34\00:21:26.15
"Be ye angry and sin
not." We often label things,
00:21:26.15\00:21:30.85
in the Christian
environment, apart from how God
00:21:30.85\00:21:33.59
labels them. When
we see that Jesus had
00:21:33.59\00:21:37.09
emotions, real human emotions,
He was angry at people who
00:21:37.09\00:21:41.36
weren't embracing God's values.
For us to have such emotions
00:21:41.36\00:21:47.60
is not wrong. This
actually may be showing
00:21:47.60\00:21:50.74
that our heart is
beating in harmony with God.
00:21:50.74\00:21:53.94
And so as we have a
trusting, faith walk with Jesus,
00:21:53.94\00:21:58.81
we will begin to see
things with His perspective.
00:21:58.81\00:22:01.68
And those things that sometimes
we criticize ourselves for or
00:22:01.68\00:22:04.99
that others would be critical
of us over, we can actually see
00:22:04.99\00:22:09.19
that we're actually walking
with Jesus, sharing His burden
00:22:09.19\00:22:13.43
for the world. JB: A
lot of social issues today
00:22:13.43\00:22:15.36
are looked at
very relativistically.
00:22:15.36\00:22:17.60
Well, that's your
opinion. This is my opinion.
00:22:17.60\00:22:19.30
My opinion is
shaped by this and that.
00:22:19.30\00:22:21.57
But really, in life and in
life's great issues, what we're
00:22:21.57\00:22:24.71
striving to do is to
see things as He sees them.
00:22:24.71\00:22:27.74
How does God
see a certain thing.
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What's the role of prayer in
a healthy life, a balanced life?
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DD: Well, you can't get
away from the subject of prayer
00:22:33.01\00:22:35.02
in Mark's Gospel.
We've been talking about that
00:22:35.02\00:22:37.59
off and on for some time,
you and I, in our dialogues.
00:22:37.59\00:22:41.29
And, in March
chapter 1, verse 35.
00:22:41.29\00:22:44.46
And, what I love about Mark's
Gospel is it doesn't start
00:22:44.46\00:22:47.93
with Jesus' birth. I
mean, that's important,
00:22:47.93\00:22:50.47
but it starts with
the power of the Word.
00:22:50.47\00:22:52.27
John the Baptist is preaching
and Jesus Himself realizes
00:22:52.27\00:22:56.71
the power of the
Word. God's communication.
00:22:56.71\00:22:59.41
And so in Mark 1:35, Jesus is
taking Himself away from all the
00:22:59.41\00:23:05.15
pressures, coming into
the presence of His Father.
00:23:05.15\00:23:09.32
It's a powerful
example for me. For all of us.
00:23:09.32\00:23:12.65
That if I want to see with
Jesus' eyes, before-- I mean,
00:23:12.65\00:23:16.39
today it's so easy. You
get up, you can have all
00:23:16.39\00:23:18.83
kinds of words
bombarding your mind.
00:23:18.83\00:23:20.73
You can read
all kinds of things.
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Focus on that
relationship with Jesus.
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JB: Ultimately, in making
decisions to live a balanced
00:23:25.93\00:23:29.20
life we have to come face
to face with the idea that our
00:23:29.20\00:23:32.84
choice must be
surrendered to God.
00:23:32.84\00:23:37.85
DD: It's true. And
what's interesting to me in
00:23:37.85\00:23:39.88
the Gospels is Jesus, when He's
in the midst of people who are
00:23:39.88\00:23:44.35
making repeatedly bad choices--
I'm thinking of the disciples.
00:23:44.35\00:23:49.19
They kept focusing
what was in it for them.
00:23:49.19\00:23:52.86
You know, who was
going to be the greatest.
00:23:52.86\00:23:54.96
But Jesus didn't abandon them.
But they stayed in communion
00:23:54.96\00:24:01.47
with the Master.
So if I'm focusing,
00:24:01.47\00:24:04.71
like the disciples,
on walking with Jesus,
00:24:04.71\00:24:06.61
even though my
decisions may be terrible.
00:24:06.61\00:24:08.61
Jesus may have to
knock me over the head.
00:24:08.61\00:24:10.78
You know, say,
what are you doing?
00:24:10.78\00:24:13.18
He's going to get my
attention sooner or later.
00:24:13.18\00:24:15.78
I'm molded into His
image as I spend time with Him.
00:24:15.78\00:24:19.85
JB: Yeah. There
are some wonderful
00:24:19.85\00:24:21.72
verses in the Bible. I
mentioned one before, "It is
00:24:21.72\00:24:25.09
God who works in you
both to will and to do
00:24:25.09\00:24:27.50
for his good pleasure."
That was Philippians 2:13.
00:24:27.50\00:24:30.27
"Don't you know that to whom you
yield yourself servants to obey,
00:24:30.27\00:24:33.34
his servants you are to
whom you obey, whether of sin
00:24:33.34\00:24:36.50
unto death or
obedience unto righteousness."
00:24:36.50\00:24:38.47
You read that in Romans 6.
"You are the servant of who
00:24:38.47\00:24:40.81
you choose to serve."
"I'm crucified with Christ,
00:24:40.81\00:24:44.38
nevertheless I live. Not
I but Christ lives in me."
00:24:44.38\00:24:49.95
And if I'm looking to live a
balanced life, to eat better or
00:24:49.95\00:24:54.09
right, to pray as God would have
me pray, to spend time in the
00:24:54.09\00:24:59.23
Word of God, to rest, even to
enjoy Sabbath rest with God and
00:24:59.23\00:25:04.67
get my life kind of
right-side up, my will must be
00:25:04.67\00:25:10.71
yielded to His will. You
know, at the beginning of
00:25:10.71\00:25:13.94
Daniel 1, they find themselves
down there in Babylon.
00:25:13.94\00:25:17.55
The king serves them the
food. "Oh, no, not for me."
00:25:17.55\00:25:19.98
But before that, he had purposed
in his heart that he wouldnít
00:25:19.98\00:25:22.98
defile himself with a
portion of the king's meat.
00:25:22.98\00:25:25.09
Purposing in our
heart, in our minds,
00:25:25.09\00:25:27.26
that it would be God's
will being done and not ours.
00:25:27.26\00:25:30.09
DD: It's a powerful concept,
because Daniel's secret was he
00:25:30.09\00:25:34.50
realized his body was a
temple. That word "defile,"
00:25:34.50\00:25:37.50
where Daniel said he
would not defile himself.
00:25:37.50\00:25:39.87
You don't defile the dirt.
You can only defile something
00:25:39.87\00:25:42.94
that's holy.
Daniel is using sanctuary
00:25:42.94\00:25:45.94
or temple language. And
so Paul picks up on this
00:25:45.94\00:25:49.58
theme, when he's writing to
the Corinthian church, speaking
00:25:49.58\00:25:52.35
about our bodies being a
temple. If I realize that, John,
00:25:52.35\00:25:55.65
then this is going to
help me when it comes to making
00:25:55.65\00:25:58.82
those good
decisions. I'm just not my own.
00:25:58.82\00:26:00.89
Like you said, I'm
bought with a price.
00:26:00.89\00:26:03.53
JB: We belong to God. We
want His will to be done,
00:26:03.53\00:26:06.06
not just so a bunch of healthy
people can end up in the lake of
00:26:06.06\00:26:10.63
fire, but that with out healthy
body we'll have a clear mind;
00:26:10.63\00:26:15.20
we'll hear the Word of God;
we'll know God as He wants us to
00:26:15.20\00:26:17.94
know Him; and we'll be
His not just now but forever.
00:26:17.94\00:26:22.41
And forever's going to be
here sooner than we think.
00:26:22.41\00:26:24.41
DD: Right. JB:
Dr. DeRose, thanks.
00:26:24.41\00:26:26.08
It's been a
pleasure, a real joy.
00:26:26.08\00:26:27.85
I'm grateful
for your being here.
00:26:27.85\00:26:29.95
Thanks for joining
me today. DD: Thank you.
00:26:29.95\00:26:31.75
JB: And before we go, we'd like
to pray with you and ask that
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God would give you the blessing
of a balanced life, and that's a
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life lived completely in
God. Real balance is found in an
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entire surrender to
Him. Let's pray that we can
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experience that
ourselves. Let's pray.
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Our Father in heaven,
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how grateful we
are that You offer us
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a more abundant life,
not just in this world
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but also in the world to come.
We look forward to that time
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being here soon.
Until it is, let our mind be
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Yours, our hearts
Yours, our faculties Yours.
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And some of us, we struggle so
much and getting it right just
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seems like a forlorn dream.
But no, Lord, that cannot be.
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Take possession of us.
Connect our weakness to Your
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strength; our unwillingness
to Your willingness.
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Make us what we can be in Christ
and give us faith to believe
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in You, each
moment of every day.
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We thank You today,
and we pray in Jesus' name.
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Amen,. DD: Amen.
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¤ [Theme Music]]  ¤ JB:
Thanks for joining me today.
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I'm looking forward to
seeing you again next time.
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Until then,
remember: It Is Written:
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Man shall not
live by bread alone,
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but by every word that proceeds
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from the mouth of God.
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