It has stood the test of time. 00:00:07.03\00:00:09.13 God4s book, the Bible. 00:00:11.90\00:00:16.46 Still relevant in today4s complex world. 00:00:16.46\00:00:24.40 It Is Written, sharing hope around the globe. 00:00:24.40\00:00:34.96 Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written. 00:00:34.96\00:00:38.53 I4m John Bradshaw. 00:00:38.53\00:00:40.16 To hear some people tell the story, if you believe that 00:00:40.16\00:00:42.93 God created the earth, then you4re out of touch, stuck in 00:00:42.93\00:00:47.40 the past, ignorant of science and backwards thinking. 00:00:47.40\00:00:52.00 Which would mean, of course, that the Bible cannot then be 00:00:52.00\00:00:55.16 trusted. 00:00:55.16\00:00:56.16 Its opening words say that God created the earth and the 00:00:56.16\00:01:00.33 opening chapter says he did it in six days. 00:01:00.33\00:01:03.53 It would also mean that Jesus was out of touch, stuck in 00:01:03.53\00:01:07.43 the past, ignorant of science, and backwards 00:01:07.43\00:01:10.40 thinking. 00:01:10.40\00:01:11.43 After all, Jesus believed the creation story. 00:01:11.43\00:01:16.20 He said in Mark 10:6, from the beginning of the 00:01:16.20\00:01:19.80 creation, God made them male and female. 00:01:19.80\00:01:24.36 Jesus believed that God made Adam and Eve, plain and 00:01:24.36\00:01:27.03 simple. 00:01:27.03\00:01:28.03 And he believed that God made the Sabbath day, which was 00:01:28.03\00:01:31.73 given on the 7th day of the creation week. 00:01:31.73\00:01:34.43 Jesus said in Mark 2:27, "The Sabbath was made for man." 00:01:34.43\00:01:40.16 Made. 00:01:40.16\00:01:41.36 In the beginning, when God created the earth. 00:01:41.36\00:01:45.00 John 1:3 says, "All things were made by him." 00:01:45.00\00:01:50.16 While in Mark 13:19, Jesus referred to "the beginning of 00:01:50.16\00:01:54.36 the creation which God created." 00:01:54.36\00:01:57.90 In the Bible, Paul wrote about creation. 00:01:57.90\00:02:01.33 Peter wrote about creation. 00:02:01.33\00:02:03.46 John wrote about creation. 00:02:03.46\00:02:06.26 But a lot of people today do not believe that God created 00:02:06.26\00:02:10.23 the world. 00:02:10.23\00:02:11.63 Now, let's ask ourselves why that might be. 00:02:11.63\00:02:14.53 Is it because evolutionists are fools? 00:02:14.53\00:02:18.63 Well, I don't think that's the reason. 00:02:18.63\00:02:21.06 A lot of brilliant, well-educated people rejected 00:02:21.06\00:02:23.43 the Bible account of creation. 00:02:23.43\00:02:25.43 In fact, many evolutionists ask important questions about 00:02:25.43\00:02:28.73 origins that demand answers. 00:02:28.73\00:02:31.36 So, how is it that the Bible can say the earth is young, 00:02:31.36\00:02:34.83 just thousands of years old, and a respected scientist 00:02:34.83\00:02:38.23 relying on accepted scientific principles and 00:02:38.23\00:02:40.63 practices, would say that the Bible is wrong and not just 00:02:40.63\00:02:44.26 wrong, but wrong by millions and millions of years. 00:02:44.26\00:02:49.63 Can intelligent thinking people be scientifically 00:02:49.63\00:02:52.60 accurate while still believing what the Bible says 00:02:52.60\00:02:56.26 on the subject of creation? 00:02:56.26\00:02:58.33 To find out, I visited the creation museum in Northern 00:02:58.33\00:03:01.03 Kentucky. 00:03:01.03\00:03:02.06 A stone's throw from Cincinnati, Ohio. 00:03:02.06\00:03:04.76 The museum covers an area of 70K sq ft, a little less than 00:03:04.76\00:03:08.63 two acres, comfortably bigger than a football field, and 00:03:08.63\00:03:11.86 it's dedicated to promoting the Biblical view of 00:03:11.86\00:03:14.20 creation. 00:03:14.20\00:03:15.53 I spoke with Creation Museum president, Australian, Ken 00:03:15.53\00:03:19.23 Ham. 00:03:19.23\00:03:20.23 And I started by asking him about theistic evolution, the 00:03:20.23\00:03:24.80 idea that evolution is a process used by God to effect 00:03:24.80\00:03:29.13 creation. 00:03:29.13\00:03:30.06 KH: Within the church, and you know there are different 00:03:30.06\00:03:32.73 denominations, and so on, you will also find, as you know. 00:03:32.73\00:03:36.53 different views of eschatology dealing with end 00:03:36.53\00:03:39.56 times, different views even of baptism and different 00:03:39.56\00:03:43.50 views of other issues. 00:03:43.50\00:03:45.63 By and large, when you are arguing about such things as 00:03:45.63\00:03:51.00 eschatology or baptism or whatever it is, speaking in 00:03:51.00\00:03:53.16 tongues, or you know, a number of those different 00:03:53.16\00:03:55.36 issues, you are arguing from the Bible. 00:03:55.36\00:03:57.36 It might be people4s view of the church or people4s view 00:03:57.36\00:03:59.56 of Israel, or people4s view of Daniel, or Ezekiel or 00:03:59.56\00:04:02.33 Revelation, whatever it is. 00:04:02.33\00:04:03.36 JB: Right. 00:04:03.36\00:04:04.36 KH: But you see, the reason there are different views of 00:04:04.36\00:04:06.83 Genesis, like theistic evolution, for instance, is 00:04:06.83\00:04:09.76 not because you are arguing from Scripture, it's because 00:04:09.76\00:04:13.03 you are arguing outside of scripture. 00:04:13.03\00:04:15.03 You are really taking the secular view of the day and 00:04:15.03\00:04:17.20 you add it to the Bible in Genesis, and then you have to 00:04:17.20\00:04:20.40 reinterpret the clear words of Genesis, which means that 00:04:20.40\00:04:25.16 the big issue for me is it's an authority issue. 00:04:25.16\00:04:28.50 You are unlocking a door to say you don't have to take 00:04:28.50\00:04:30.76 this as written. 00:04:30.76\00:04:31.90 You are not using God's word to judge man's word. 00:04:31.90\00:04:34.50 You are using man's ideas outside of Scripture, which 00:04:34.50\00:04:36.80 you don't get from Scripture. 00:04:36.80\00:04:38.23 And then you are forcing them onto God's Word. 00:04:38.23\00:04:41.83 For instance, the Bible makes it clear. 00:04:41.83\00:04:44.26 God took dust and made a man. 00:04:44.26\00:04:45.86 So if you are going to believe in theistic 00:04:45.86\00:04:48.83 evolution, you are going to say God used evolution then 00:04:48.83\00:04:52.10 the process of some ape-like ancestor changing into 00:04:52.10\00:04:54.76 humans, even in Matthew 19 when Jesus was quoting 00:04:54.76\00:04:57.70 Genesis when talking about marriage, he was talking 00:04:57.70\00:05:00.40 about the one flesh, you know, the fact that Eve came 00:05:00.40\00:05:04.03 from Adam. 00:05:04.03\00:05:05.03 See, if you are going to believe in evolution, then 00:05:05.03\00:05:07.96 Adam came from an ape-man and Eve came from an ape-woman. 00:05:07.96\00:05:11.60 But, the Bible makes it very clear and Jesus himself, who 00:05:11.60\00:05:15.20 is the Word, and who is the Son of God, Jesus, quoted 00:05:15.20\00:05:19.16 from Genesis, talking about your one flesh, because the 00:05:19.16\00:05:22.13 woman came from the man. 00:05:22.13\00:05:23.76 She did not come from an ape woman. 00:05:23.76\00:05:27.06 And so, really, for theistic evolutionists, they are 00:05:27.06\00:05:29.06 really undermining Biblical authority because they are 00:05:29.06\00:05:31.26 reinterpreting God's word by forcing man's ideas on God's 00:05:31.26\00:05:34.23 word. 00:05:34.23\00:05:35.23 Secondly, they are really destroying the whole basis of 00:05:35.23\00:05:37.53 marriage, if you think about it, and of course, that all 00:05:37.53\00:05:41.16 relates too to Christ and his relationship to the church in 00:05:41.16\00:05:44.76 the New Testament. 00:05:44.76\00:05:45.76 But there is even something else as well, and that's 00:05:45.76\00:05:49.06 this. 00:05:49.06\00:05:50.06 All the different positions on Genesis, they all have one 00:05:50.06\00:05:52.66 thing in common. 00:05:52.66\00:05:53.66 JB: What's that? 00:05:53.66\00:05:54.66 KH: Putting millions of years in the Bible. 00:05:54.66\00:05:57.30 The idea of millions of years came from atheists, Deists, 00:05:57.30\00:06:00.63 people who believed in naturalism, who wanted to 00:06:00.63\00:06:03.26 explain life without God, wanted to get rid of the 00:06:03.26\00:06:06.56 flood of Noah's day, and they want to come up with a way of 00:06:06.56\00:06:11.16 explaining the world without God and so back in the late 00:06:11.16\00:06:14.80 1700s, early 1800s, these people postulated the idea 00:06:14.80\00:06:18.76 that the fossil layers we see over the earth's surface, 00:06:18.76\00:06:21.90 were laid down over millions of years, and that happened 00:06:21.90\00:06:25.36 before man. 00:06:25.36\00:06:26.53 And so you'll find that every one of the compromised 00:06:26.53\00:06:29.10 positions is people trying to come up with some new sort of 00:06:29.10\00:06:33.30 way or different way to fit millions of years and/or 00:06:33.30\00:06:36.23 evolution, sometimes, into the Bible. 00:06:36.23\00:06:40.30 And if you believe in millions of years, here's my 00:06:40.30\00:06:42.80 challenge for people. 00:06:42.80\00:06:44.50 If you take Genesis 1:29, 30, and you read it exactly the 00:06:44.50\00:06:48.86 same way that Jesus quotes from Genesis, then Adam and 00:06:48.86\00:06:53.40 Eve ate fruit, all vegetarian, and the animals 00:06:53.40\00:06:57.46 were vegetarian, they ate plants. 00:06:57.46\00:07:00.93 Now man wasn't told to eat meat until after the flood 00:07:00.93\00:07:03.90 Genesis 9:3 when God laid that out. 00:07:03.90\00:07:06.93 But originally, they were all vegetarian. 00:07:06.93\00:07:08.93 In the fossil record, supposedly existing millions 00:07:08.93\00:07:11.86 of years before man, if you believe in millions of years, 00:07:11.86\00:07:13.93 as a Christian, you've got lots of examples of animals 00:07:13.93\00:07:17.33 eating each other, fish eating each other, bones in 00:07:17.33\00:07:20.30 the stomachs of other animals, and so on. 00:07:20.30\00:07:23.93 What are they going to do with that? 00:07:23.93\00:07:25.93 Ok. 00:07:25.93\00:07:26.93 No. 00:07:26.93\00:07:27.93 2. 00:07:27.93\00:07:28.93 Doesn't the Bible clearly tell us in Genesis that as a 00:07:28.93\00:07:30.86 result of the curse, thorns and thistles came into 00:07:30.86\00:07:34.93 existence? 00:07:34.93\00:07:35.93 JB: That's correct. 00:07:35.93\00:07:36.93 KH: The fossil record, said to be millions of years 00:07:36.93\00:07:39.36 before man, right? 00:07:39.36\00:07:40.53 There's a lot of examples of fossil thorns said to be 00:07:40.53\00:07:43.33 hundreds of millions of years old. 00:07:43.33\00:07:45.33 Wait a minute! 00:07:45.33\00:07:46.33 You've got all these thorns, millions of years before man 00:07:46.33\00:07:50.06 sinned? 00:07:50.06\00:07:51.26 Then thorns didn't come after the curse. 00:07:51.26\00:07:53.30 There are many examples of diseases in the fossil bones. 00:07:53.30\00:07:57.30 There are brain tumors. 00:07:57.30\00:07:58.46 For instance, there's a brain tumor in a dinosaur fossil, 00:07:58.46\00:08:02.26 evidence of abscesses, arthritis, cancer, all sorts 00:08:02.26\00:08:06.36 of diseases. 00:08:06.36\00:08:07.36 In fact, there are even medical researchers today who 00:08:07.36\00:08:10.30 use the fossil bones to help people understand how to look 00:08:10.30\00:08:15.06 for certain diseases and so on. 00:08:15.06\00:08:17.56 Now, when God finished creating everything, he said 00:08:17.56\00:08:19.70 everything he made was very good. 00:08:19.70\00:08:22.66 So, if you are going to believe in millions of years, 00:08:22.66\00:08:25.60 God said brain tumors were very good, cancer was very 00:08:25.60\00:08:27.60 good. 00:08:27.60\00:08:28.60 See, from a perspective of Scripture, you can't have 00:08:28.60\00:08:32.36 brain tumors, cancer, arthritis, abscesses that you 00:08:32.36\00:08:36.53 see in the fossil record, animals eating each other, 00:08:36.53\00:08:38.96 thorns, supposedly millions of years before man. 00:08:38.96\00:08:41.63 And so, therefore, the whole fossil record has to come 00:08:41.63\00:08:43.90 after sin. 00:08:43.90\00:08:45.43 And when you look at the fossil record, you see these 00:08:45.43\00:08:49.56 fossils laid down in sedimentary layers over the 00:08:49.56\00:08:51.90 earth. 00:08:51.90\00:08:52.90 How would explain billions of dead things buried in rock 00:08:52.90\00:08:56.63 layers, laid down by water or over the earth. 00:08:56.63\00:08:59.60 I mean, 70% of the earth's surfaces is covered in 00:08:59.60\00:09:01.66 sedimentary strata. 00:09:01.66\00:09:02.66 You know what the Bible actually tells us? 00:09:02.66\00:09:04.66 JB What's that? 00:09:04.66\00:09:05.66 KH That there was a global flood. 00:09:05.66\00:09:07.66 And if there really was a global flood, you'd expect to 00:09:07.66\00:09:09.66 find billions of dead things buried in rock layers, laid 00:09:09.66\00:09:11.66 down by water, all over the earth, and that's what you 00:09:11.66\00:09:13.66 find. 00:09:13.66\00:09:14.66 JB And that's what you find. 00:09:14.66\00:09:15.66 KH and you know what you find? 00:09:15.66\00:09:17.66 Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers laid 00:09:17.66\00:09:19.66 down by water all over the earth. 00:09:19.66\00:09:21.66 So what should you think when a fossil is discovered that 00:09:21.66\00:09:23.66 seems to indicated human beings were on Earth millions 00:09:23.66\00:09:25.66 of years ago - when the Bible says no such thing? 00:09:25.66\00:09:27.66 KH In a way, that evidence that we do have a Lucy is 00:09:27.66\00:09:31.90 strong enough to actually draw out a particular 00:09:31.90\00:09:36.06 interpretation which is she was some kind of ape. 00:09:36.06\00:09:38.73 JB More in just a moment. 00:09:38.73\00:09:40.03 [Music] In Matthew 4:4, the 00:09:40.03\00:09:46.03 Word of God says, "It is written, man shall not live 00:09:53.40\00:09:56.63 by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the 00:09:56.63\00:10:00.23 mouth of God. 00:10:00.23\00:10:01.23 Every Word is a one-minute Bible-based daily devotional 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glories glory in this, that he understands and knows 00:10:51.46\00:10:54.46 Me, that I am the LORD, exercising loving-kindness, 00:10:54.46\00:10:57.30 judgment, and righteousness in the earth. 00:10:57.30\00:10:59.66 For in these I delight," says the LORD." 00:10:59.66\00:11:02.26 Jeremiah 9:24 NKJV God's a God of justice, that's true. 00:11:02.26\00:11:05.23 But God deals kindly with His people. 00:11:05.23\00:11:08.20 He's patient and merciful towards sinners, and instead 00:11:08.20\00:11:09.76 of looking to do away with us He does all He can to win us 00:11:09.76\00:11:12.43 and convince us that He's good. 00:11:12.43\00:11:15.16 I hope you remember this verse today. 00:11:15.16\00:11:16.93 Unlike humans, God is only good. 00:11:16.93\00:11:20.10 I'm John Bradshaw for It Is Written. 00:11:20.10\00:11:21.96 Let's live today by Every Word. 00:11:21.96\00:11:25.03 This is It Is Written, thanks for joining me. 00:11:26.40\00:11:28.53 I'm John Bradshaw Today I'm discussing creation and 00:11:28.53\00:11:31.16 evolution with Ken Ham, the President of the Creation 00:11:31.16\00:11:33.96 Museum in Northern Kentucky. 00:11:33.96\00:11:36.23 Ken's been teaching creation for decades, so I asked him 00:11:36.23\00:11:39.46 about "Lucy". 00:11:39.46\00:11:41.50 In 1974, an American anthropologist working in 00:11:41.50\00:11:46.50 Ethiopia discovered fossilized remains of what 00:11:46.50\00:11:50.26 became known as "Lucy". 00:11:50.26\00:11:53.00 Lucy was actually about 40% of a skeleton. 00:11:53.00\00:11:56.66 Many people believe this skeleton to be several 00:11:56.66\00:11:58.96 millions of years old, and either a direct ancestor of 00:11:58.96\00:12:02.50 today's human beings, or closely related. 00:12:02.50\00:12:06.16 If Lucy is actually a human - or human ancestor - and is 3 00:12:06.16\00:12:10.20 million-plus years old, there goes the idea of a young 00:12:10.20\00:12:13.50 Earth that is less than 10,000 years old. 00:12:13.50\00:12:16.33 So I asked Ken Ham if 40% of an old skeleton gives enough 00:12:16.33\00:12:20.76 evidence of human beings living millions of years ago. 00:12:20.76\00:12:24.43 KH In a way, that evidence we do have of Lucy is strong 00:12:24.43\00:12:30.03 enough to actually draw out a particular interpretation 00:12:30.03\00:12:33.46 that she was some kind of ape. 00:12:33.46\00:12:36.43 And it is interesting. 00:12:36.43\00:12:37.66 See, when you dig up a skull, you can make, by using 00:12:37.66\00:12:43.60 artistic license, you can make the head on that skull 00:12:43.60\00:12:48.53 look ape-like or human-like. 00:12:48.53\00:12:51.46 You can take an ape skull and make it look a bit 00:12:51.46\00:12:53.90 human-like. 00:12:53.90\00:12:54.90 You can take a human skull and make it look ape-like. 00:12:54.90\00:12:57.46 If you want Lucy to be human-like, right? 00:12:57.46\00:13:02.63 Well, you want to have short arms, because apes have 00:13:02.63\00:13:05.06 longer arms. 00:13:05.06\00:13:06.06 And so, therefore, where the broken bones are, they put 00:13:06.06\00:13:08.30 them together but when you look at them, they are 00:13:08.30\00:13:10.76 tapered, indicating that they should be apart. 00:13:10.76\00:13:13.23 And so we put them apart to where we believe they should 00:13:13.23\00:13:19.76 be, showing she really had long arms, right? 00:13:19.76\00:13:21.76 Like an ape, which is what the discoverer of Lucy said 00:13:21.76\00:13:23.76 she was. 00:13:23.76\00:13:24.76 Then, when you look at the leg bones, well, for the leg 00:13:24.76\00:13:26.80 bones, they want the opposite to happen. 00:13:26.80\00:13:30.33 Because apes have shorter legs so they want them to 00:13:30.33\00:13:36.96 have longer legs, so for the leg bones, they actually put 00:13:36.96\00:13:38.96 those bones apart whereas when we look at them, it 00:13:38.96\00:13:40.96 looks like they should be together and so, they do the 00:13:40.96\00:13:43.70 opposite of what they should do because they want to make 00:13:43.70\00:13:47.00 it into something that it really is not. 00:13:47.00\00:13:49.50 But when you've just got the bones and you don't have the 00:13:49.50\00:13:53.03 flesh and the hair and you can't see it and so that's 00:13:53.03\00:13:56.63 how people can be indoctrinated in evolution 00:13:56.63\00:13:58.83 because an evolutionist can take those bones and arrange 00:13:58.83\00:14:01.50 them in a particular way and you know, shorten the arms, 00:14:01.50\00:14:04.83 and lengthen the legs, or the rest of it, you know, do what 00:14:04.83\00:14:08.73 they want to do with them, and then put flesh and hair 00:14:08.73\00:14:12.33 on them and make it look sort of half human-like. 00:14:12.33\00:14:15.43 They can make the eyes look a particular way and make it 00:14:15.43\00:14:18.96 look a bit humanlike, and that's what they do. 00:14:18.96\00:14:21.66 JB I asked Ken Ham a question I think everyone has asked at 00:14:21.66\00:14:25.56 some time or another: how do you fit dinosaurs into the 00:14:25.56\00:14:28.90 Bible story, when the science tells us dinosaurs lived 00:14:28.90\00:14:33.03 millions of years ago. 00:14:33.03\00:14:34.56 KH You've got crocodiles, and the nautilus, and horseshoe 00:14:34.56\00:14:38.13 crab and so on. 00:14:38.13\00:14:39.13 You've got these creatures, that according to 00:14:39.13\00:14:41.63 evolutionists, lived before dinosaurs, and then must have 00:14:41.63\00:14:44.76 lived with dinosaurs years ago and then supposedly 00:14:44.76\00:14:47.63 dinosaurs died out, then all these others lived on and 00:14:47.63\00:14:51.20 they are still living with us today. 00:14:51.20\00:14:54.33 So, the point is, these creatures are living with us 00:14:54.33\00:14:57.23 today so why is it even from an evolutionist perspective, 00:14:57.23\00:15:00.86 why is it so stupid to think that dinosaurs could not live 00:15:00.86\00:15:04.40 with people? 00:15:04.40\00:15:05.40 Now most people have the wrong idea about dinosaurs. 00:15:05.40\00:15:07.53 They think they are all great big monsters. 00:15:07.53\00:15:09.53 JB A ha KH Well the word dinosaur was first invited in 00:15:09.53\00:15:11.53 1841 by an Englishman, Sir. 00:15:11.53\00:15:13.06 Richard Owen and it comes two Greek words, Dino Sauros and 00:15:13.06\00:15:16.96 translated, it means terrible lizard. 00:15:16.96\00:15:19.43 And so people get the idea that they are all great, big 00:15:19.43\00:15:23.20 monsters. 00:15:23.20\00:15:24.20 The average size of a dinosaur is only the size of 00:15:24.20\00:15:27.60 a sheep, a shepherd dog. 00:15:27.60\00:15:29.43 That's the average size. 00:15:29.43\00:15:30.83 There are many dinosaurs as small as chickens. 00:15:30.83\00:15:33.76 The mosasaurus when it hatched out of an egg, was 00:15:33.76\00:15:37.40 only the size of a mouse. 00:15:37.40\00:15:39.60 So we shouldn't get the idea that dinosaurs were all great 00:15:39.60\00:15:43.63 big monsters. 00:15:43.63\00:15:44.63 Secondly, people think that they were hundreds, and 00:15:44.63\00:15:47.30 hundreds, and hundreds of different type of dinosaurs. 00:15:47.30\00:15:50.23 Actually, there is only about 50 families of dinosaurs, 00:15:50.23\00:15:53.53 which means about 50 kinds. 00:15:53.53\00:15:55.36 We would say, in most instances, not all, but most 00:15:55.36\00:15:58.80 instances, that the kind would be more at the family 00:15:58.80\00:16:03.03 level of classification. 00:16:03.03\00:16:04.76 And we have actually had, for instance, some scientists 00:16:04.76\00:16:07.33 working on how many kinds of land animals are there on the 00:16:07.33\00:16:11.36 earth. 00:16:11.36\00:16:12.36 Not species, but how many kinds, actual kinds. 00:16:12.36\00:16:15.56 Because you know deer and moose are the same kind, 00:16:15.56\00:16:18.36 alpacas, llamas, one hump camels, two hump camels are 00:16:18.36\00:16:21.16 all the same kinds, zebras, horses are all the same 00:16:21.16\00:16:23.80 kinds. 00:16:23.80\00:16:24.90 That's why at the petting zoo here, we have a zorse and a 00:16:24.90\00:16:27.60 zedonk and so on. 00:16:27.60\00:16:29.93 Actually our scientists believe there is probably 00:16:29.93\00:16:31.73 about a thousand kinds of land animals which means.. 00:16:31.73\00:16:37.93 JB 50 odd kinds of dinosaurs KH and 50 kinds of dinosaurs, 00:16:37.93\00:16:40.73 well there's 50 families of dinosaurs, so there are about 00:16:40.73\00:16:42.63 50 kinds. 00:16:42.63\00:16:44.13 We would say dinosaurs were made on day six because all 00:16:44.13\00:16:46.83 land animals were made on day six of the creation week. 00:16:46.83\00:16:49.93 We believe those days are ordinary days. 00:16:49.93\00:16:51.63 The Hebrew word Yom, when it's used with evening, 00:16:51.63\00:16:53.93 morning, number or night means an ordinary day. 00:16:53.93\00:16:56.33 JB 24 hour period KH The only reason that many Christians 00:16:56.33\00:16:58.66 don't believe that is not because of what the Hebrew 00:16:58.66\00:17:01.13 words mean, it's because they are trying to force millions 00:17:01.13\00:17:03.33 of years into the Bible. 00:17:03.33\00:17:04.40 You take It Is Written, in fact, that's where our 7-day 00:17:04.40\00:17:07.03 week comes from, Exodus 20:11, the basis of the 00:17:07.03\00:17:09.53 Fourth Commandment: In six days the Lord made the 00:17:09.53\00:17:11.50 heavens and the earth and rested on the 7th day and God 00:17:11.50\00:17:14.00 blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy and so a seven 00:17:14.00\00:17:16.50 day week is based upon the creation week. 00:17:16.50\00:17:19.50 You know, if God made everything in six million 00:17:19.50\00:17:21.20 years and rested for millions of years, we could go into 00:17:21.20\00:17:23.30 retirement now. 00:17:23.30\00:17:24.10 JB Yes we could. 00:17:24.10\00:17:25.60 KH So you see those days are ordinary days. 00:17:25.60\00:17:28.50 On day six, God made the land animals and he made the first 00:17:28.50\00:17:30.90 two people, Adam and Eve. 00:17:30.90\00:17:31.90 Dinosaurs are land animals. 00:17:31.90\00:17:33.23 Dinosaurs were beside Adam and Eve. 00:17:33.23\00:17:35.23 See, I have people say to me, "but the word dinosaur is not 00:17:35.23\00:17:37.43 in the Bible." 00:17:37.43\00:17:38.43 I say, well, of course not. 00:17:38.43\00:17:40.53 You know, why isn't the word dinosaur in the Bible? 00:17:40.53\00:17:43.93 Well, the same reason you don't have the word email in 00:17:43.93\00:17:46.50 the Bible. 00:17:46.50\00:17:47.30 Right? 00:17:47.30\00:17:48.13 It's a modern word. 00:17:48.13\00:17:49.50 JB Sure KH The word dinosaur is a modern word. 00:17:49.50\00:17:51.50 It was made up in 1841. 00:17:51.50\00:17:53.36 In fact, I do believe there is a dinosaur described in 00:17:53.36\00:17:55.73 detail, in the Bible, more than most other animals. 00:17:55.73\00:17:59.20 In the book of Job, Job 40:15, he says "behold, 00:17:59.20\00:18:03.26 Behemoth," talking to Job and about this animal that lived 00:18:03.26\00:18:08.06 with him, he said he was a chief of the ways of mouth. 00:18:08.06\00:18:10.56 The Hebrew language there implies it's the largest land 00:18:10.56\00:18:12.70 animal God made and the largest animal we know of 00:18:12.70\00:18:15.70 that lived on the land from what we found is one of the 00:18:15.70\00:18:17.56 Sauropod dinosaurs. 00:18:17.56\00:18:19.06 Now they did grow very large, by the way, but even they had 00:18:19.06\00:18:22.13 some eggs, which would not have been much bigger than 00:18:22.13\00:18:25.86 the size of a football. 00:18:25.86\00:18:27.66 That's the biggest egg we found, you know, dinosaur 00:18:27.66\00:18:30.33 eggs. 00:18:30.33\00:18:31.33 But, Behemoth, everything about it is big and strong. 00:18:31.33\00:18:33.33 Has a tail like a cedar tree. 00:18:33.33\00:18:34.70 You know. 00:18:34.70\00:18:35.70 And some of the Bible notes, I notice in some of the 00:18:35.70\00:18:38.30 Bibles say it was an elephant or hippopotamus. 00:18:38.30\00:18:40.83 Have you ever seen an elephant's tail? 00:18:40.83\00:18:42.83 It looks like a piece of rope dangling down. 00:18:42.83\00:18:44.93 Or if you see a hippo tail, you know, it's like a flap of 00:18:44.93\00:18:48.06 skin. 00:18:48.06\00:18:49.06 You know, a cedar tree? 00:18:49.06\00:18:50.06 No, I don't think so. 00:18:50.06\00:18:51.06 It's more, we believe the description of a Sauropod 00:18:51.06\00:18:53.20 dinosaur. 00:18:53.20\00:18:54.20 You see, people say, well what happened to the 00:18:54.20\00:18:56.20 dinosaurs? 00:18:56.20\00:18:57.20 Well, why aren't you interested in the dodo bird? 00:18:57.20\00:18:59.20 What happened to the dodo bird? 00:18:59.20\00:19:01.26 What happened to.. 00:19:01.26\00:19:02.26 what? 00:19:02.26\00:19:03.26 The Moa? 00:19:03.26\00:19:04.26 JB The Moa in New Zealand. 00:19:04.26\00:19:04.80 That's right. 00:19:04.80\00:19:05.63 Great big bird, 9 feet tall. 00:19:05.63\00:19:06.83 KH It's gone now. 00:19:06.83\00:19:07.73 JB Gone. 00:19:07.73\00:19:08.73 KH I mean, there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 00:19:08.73\00:19:10.40 animals that have become extinct. 00:19:10.40\00:19:11.93 But people think it's the dinosaurs that are the big 00:19:11.93\00:19:13.90 mystery but there are lots of animals that are becoming 00:19:13.90\00:19:15.93 extinct. 00:19:15.93\00:19:16.56 Because of changing conditions and I mean that's 00:19:16.56\00:19:18.46 why we have endangered species programs. 00:19:18.46\00:19:20.73 I tell people the reason dinosaurs became extinct is 00:19:20.73\00:19:23.13 we didn't start our endangered species programs 00:19:23.13\00:19:26.10 early enough. 00:19:26.10\00:19:26.90 This is It Is Written. 00:19:26.90\00:19:28.40 I'll have more with Ken Ham in just a moment.??? 00:19:28.40\00:19:41.56 [Music] Eyes for India is giving sight to the blind and 00:19:45.60\00:19:52.93 you can be a part of this amazing work that God is 00:19:52.93\00:19:55.53 doing. 00:19:55.53\00:19:56.53 15 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hearts to the Love of God. 00:20:45.53\00:20:48.86 Today on It Is Written I'm talking with Ken Ham about 00:20:50.16\00:20:53.70 creation and evolution. 00:20:53.70\00:20:55.76 I asked Ken why what a person believes about creation and 00:20:55.76\00:21:00.46 evolution really matters at all. 00:21:00.46\00:21:03.46 KH: Do you believe Jesus Christ bodily rose from the 00:21:03.46\00:21:05.56 dead? 00:21:05.56\00:21:06.56 JB Oh yes I do. 00:21:06.56\00:21:07.56 KH Where did you get that from? 00:21:07.56\00:21:09.56 JB Right out of the Bible. 00:21:09.56\00:21:10.56 KH Out of the bible? 00:21:10.56\00:21:11.56 JB Yeah. 00:21:11.56\00:21:12.56 KH So you take that as the authoritative Word of God. 00:21:12.56\00:21:14.56 JB Most definitely. 00:21:14.56\00:21:15.56 KH So you believe in the virgin birth too? 00:21:15.56\00:21:17.56 JB Sure, it's right there in the Bible. 00:21:17.56\00:21:19.56 KH Now wait a minute, wait a minute. 00:21:19.56\00:21:21.56 Secular scientists say that you can't have a man rising 00:21:21.56\00:21:23.56 from the dead, and you can't have a virgin birth. 00:21:23.56\00:21:25.56 You know, if I was to go through the Bible and what I 00:21:25.56\00:21:27.56 call our mainline churches, and I was to say: Do you 00:21:27.56\00:21:29.56 believe fed thousands of people is a miracle? 00:21:29.56\00:21:31.50 JB Oh, they'll say yes, sure. 00:21:31.50\00:21:32.50 KH They'll say yes. 00:21:32.50\00:21:33.50 How do you know? 00:21:33.50\00:21:34.50 The Bible says. 00:21:34.50\00:21:35.50 Do you believe Jesus walked on water? 00:21:35.50\00:21:37.50 Oh yes. 00:21:37.50\00:21:38.50 How do you know? 00:21:38.50\00:21:39.50 The Bible says. 00:21:39.50\00:21:40.50 Do you believe that a man was swallowed by a fish? 00:21:40.50\00:21:42.50 And lived in a fish for three days? 00:21:42.50\00:21:44.50 How do you know? 00:21:44.50\00:21:45.50 The Bible says. 00:21:45.50\00:21:46.50 As soon as you get to Genesis in this day and age, and even 00:21:46.50\00:21:48.50 in the church and you say, what God created in six days, 00:21:48.50\00:21:50.50 man was made from dust, woman from his side, there was a 00:21:50.50\00:21:53.06 global flood, death came after sin, here is what we 00:21:53.06\00:21:55.33 hear. 00:21:55.33\00:21:56.33 Oh no. 00:21:56.33\00:21:57.33 Why not? 00:21:57.33\00:21:58.33 Well because outside of scripture here, because these 00:21:58.33\00:22:00.40 ideas of millions of years, because of evolution. 00:22:00.40\00:22:02.40 You've got to reinterpret the days, you've got to do this 00:22:02.40\00:22:04.40 and here's the point. 00:22:04.40\00:22:06.13 What is happen is this. 00:22:06.13\00:22:07.16 If we don't take a stand on the creation account in 00:22:07.16\00:22:09.93 Genesis and we allow outside ideas to reinterpret that, we 00:22:09.93\00:22:15.53 are unlocking a door and the door we are unlocking is we 00:22:15.53\00:22:18.66 are telling coming generations that you don't 00:22:18.66\00:22:21.33 have to take God's word as written here. 00:22:21.33\00:22:23.86 It puts them on a slipperly slide of unbelief through the 00:22:23.86\00:22:26.03 whole of Scripture. 00:22:26.03\00:22:27.53 You tell me to believe this bit of the Bible over here, 00:22:27.53\00:22:30.16 but this bit doesn't matter. 00:22:30.16\00:22:31.83 I can take mans ideas and reinterpret here, but I am 00:22:31.83\00:22:34.53 not allowed to do that over here. 00:22:34.53\00:22:36.53 It's hypocrisy. 00:22:36.53\00:22:38.60 God's word came under attack at the beginning and that 00:22:38.60\00:22:42.00 attack has continued down through the ages. 00:22:42.00\00:22:44.36 It's never abated. 00:22:44.36\00:22:45.63 It's the same attack yet it manifests itself in different 00:22:45.63\00:22:48.83 ways and different eras of history. 00:22:48.83\00:22:51.40 For instance, when Peter and Paul were preaching about the 00:22:51.40\00:22:53.50 resurrection, did they ever get the question: Hey, that's 00:22:53.50\00:22:56.16 all very well, preaching about the resurrection. 00:22:56.16\00:22:58.16 What do you do with carbon dating? 00:22:58.16\00:23:00.23 Did people like Martin Luther, when he nailed the 00:23:00.23\00:23:02.23 thesis on the door of the church, did someone come up 00:23:02.23\00:23:04.53 to him and say that's all very well to nail those on 00:23:04.53\00:23:07.93 the door of the church. 00:23:07.93\00:23:09.36 I want to know about dinosaurs. 00:23:09.36\00:23:11.76 Well, the word dinosaur was not invented until 1841. 00:23:11.76\00:23:13.76 My point is this. 00:23:13.76\00:23:14.83 There is a particular Genesis 3 attack in our day. 00:23:14.83\00:23:18.23 People in past ages had to deal with all sorts of 00:23:18.23\00:23:22.53 attacks on the Bible. 00:23:22.53\00:23:24.10 Gnosticism and all sorts of heresies and so on. 00:23:24.10\00:23:27.63 I believe today that the teaching of evolution, 00:23:27.63\00:23:30.70 millions of years, big bang and so on, that permeates the 00:23:30.70\00:23:34.03 world, wherever you've got an education system, access to 00:23:34.03\00:23:37.43 the internet, access to television, people have heard 00:23:37.43\00:23:40.16 of evolution millions of years. 00:23:40.16\00:23:42.86 It permeates museums around the world, zoos around the 00:23:42.86\00:23:45.63 world, just about everybody has heard about evolution of 00:23:45.63\00:23:48.16 millions of years. 00:23:48.16\00:23:49.16 I believe that it is the Genesis 3 attack of our day. 00:23:49.16\00:23:52.83 You know, your salvation is not conditioned upon the age 00:23:52.83\00:23:57.73 of the earth of whether you believe in evolution or the 00:23:57.73\00:24:00.26 days of creation. 00:24:00.26\00:24:01.43 The condition is upon faith in Christ, right? 00:24:01.43\00:24:04.96 But believing in evolution for millions of years doesn't 00:24:04.96\00:24:08.66 necessarily affect your salvation. 00:24:08.66\00:24:10.90 There are many Christians that believe in millions of 00:24:10.90\00:24:13.93 years. 00:24:13.93\00:24:14.93 Many Christians that believe in evolution. 00:24:14.93\00:24:16.96 But what it does affect is how the next generation views 00:24:16.96\00:24:20.53 Scripture itself. 00:24:20.53\00:24:22.16 What I have given you is a long answer to get back to 00:24:22.16\00:24:26.03 the fact that the issue is one of authority. 00:24:26.03\00:24:29.50 Who is the authority? 00:24:29.50\00:24:30.43 God or man? 00:24:30.43\00:24:31.90 And when you let man be an authority over God's word and 00:24:31.90\00:24:35.10 reinterpret God's word because of outside ideas you 00:24:35.10\00:24:37.66 are unlocking a door so the next generation tend not to 00:24:37.66\00:24:40.86 believe the Scripture as much and the next generation doubt 00:24:40.86\00:24:43.86 and disbelieve even more and as time goes on, you would 00:24:43.86\00:24:48.23 expect to see more and more in the younger generations of 00:24:48.23\00:24:52.96 leaving the church, walking away from the church as 00:24:52.96\00:24:55.40 exactly what we see. 00:24:55.40\00:24:56.86 JB That's what we see today. 00:24:56.86\00:24:58.86 [Music] Creation or evolution? 00:25:10.26\00:25:12.86 I'd like to offer you a free book that makes this subject 00:25:12.86\00:25:16.13 clear. 00:25:16.13\00:25:17.13 áIt's called "Out of Thin Air", produced by It Is 00:25:17.13\00:25:20.50 Written, and written by former ministry speaker Shawn 00:25:20.50\00:25:23.50 Boonstra. 00:25:23.50\00:25:24.50 It's an excellent resource that makes the subject of 00:25:24.50\00:25:27.23 creation and evolution very, very clear. 00:25:27.23\00:25:31.13 Get your free copy of "Out of Thin Air" by calling now, 00:25:31.13\00:25:34.80 1-800-253-3000. 00:25:34.80\00:25:37.70 Ask for: Out of Thin Air. 00:25:37.70\00:25:45.40 Or you can write to It Is Written, Box O, Thousand 00:25:45.40\00:25:48.46 Oaks, CA 91359, and we will mail a copy to your address 00:25:48.46\00:25:53.43 in North America. 00:25:53.43\00:25:55.20 This is a resource you'll appreciate. 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00:26:44.26\00:26:47.60 Why don't we take a moment now and pray. 00:26:47.60\00:26:49.86 We'll pray to the God of creation and ask his blessing 00:26:49.86\00:26:53.00 and guidance. 00:26:53.00\00:26:54.56 Our Father in heaven, I thank you for the Bible. 00:26:54.56\00:26:57.20 The Bible that reveals to us that In the Beginning, God 00:26:57.20\00:27:00.36 created. 00:27:00.36\00:27:01.90 Lord, I look forward to your continuing creative power. 00:27:01.90\00:27:04.96 The Bible tells us that you will recreate this earth. 00:27:04.96\00:27:08.70 We will dwell in a new earth some day. 00:27:08.70\00:27:12.46 The Bible tells us that you are the God who can recreate 00:27:12.46\00:27:15.06 a broken, human heart. 00:27:15.06\00:27:17.16 Lord, would you do that work for us? 00:27:17.16\00:27:19.20 We thank you today and we pray praising you, in Jesus' 00:27:19.20\00:27:23.70 name, Amen. 00:27:23.70\00:27:29.70 Thanks for joining me today. 00:27:46.10\00:27:47.16 I look forward to seeing you again next time. 00:27:47.16\00:27:49.36 Until then, remember: It is written, man shall not live 00:27:49.36\00:27:54.16 by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the 00:27:54.16\00:27:58.06 mouth of God. 00:27:58.06\00:28:00.13