The following program
discusses sensitive issues
00:00:01.36\00:00:03.03
related to sexuality.
00:00:03.06\00:00:05.03
Parents are cautioned
00:00:05.07\00:00:06.40
this
presentation may be too candid
00:00:06.43\00:00:08.70
for younger audiences.
00:00:08.74\00:00:10.11
Welcome to Intimate Clarity.
00:00:30.36\00:00:31.69
I'm Jason Bradley and with
me is Jennifer Jill Schwirzer.
00:00:31.73\00:00:35.00
She is a licensed
professional counselor,
00:00:35.03\00:00:37.73
and today we're going to be
discussing a sensitive topic
00:00:37.77\00:00:40.34
but it's a
conversation we need to have.
00:00:40.37\00:00:42.54
Jen, what is body
shaming? No, body shaming.
00:00:42.57\00:00:45.97
Well, it's a little
bit of a nuanced issue.
00:00:46.01\00:00:47.84
Okay.
00:00:47.88\00:00:49.21
We can see,
00:00:49.24\00:00:50.58
a certain amount of body
shame is actually normal, like,
00:00:50.61\00:00:53.58
people don't walk around naked.
00:00:53.62\00:00:55.38
In fact, that's
considered a pathology.
00:00:55.42\00:00:57.65
It's called
exhibitionistic disorder
00:00:57.69\00:01:00.16
and it's in the
diagnostic manual.
00:01:00.19\00:01:01.89
So if we were just
to run around naked
00:01:01.92\00:01:03.56
that would be
an illness, really.
00:01:03.59\00:01:05.63
Yeah, I am pretty sure
you get arrested for that too.
00:01:05.66\00:01:07.46
Yeah, I'm pretty sure too.
00:01:07.50\00:01:08.83
But it would be a
problem on multiple levels.
00:01:08.86\00:01:11.73
But let's go scroll back to Eden
00:01:11.77\00:01:13.50
and kind of get
our biblical bearings
00:01:13.54\00:01:15.90
on this body shame issue.
00:01:15.94\00:01:17.67
There was a time
when humanity didn't feel
00:01:17.71\00:01:20.94
any sense of body shame at all,
00:01:20.98\00:01:22.44
and I would
argue they didn't feel
00:01:22.48\00:01:23.81
any sense of
self-consciousness at all.
00:01:23.85\00:01:26.31
And we see that before the fall,
00:01:26.35\00:01:28.25
they were naked and not ashamed.
00:01:28.28\00:01:30.99
Okay.
00:01:31.02\00:01:32.35
Then the fall comes
into human experience
00:01:32.39\00:01:34.19
and what's the
first thing they do?
00:01:34.22\00:01:35.66
They run and hide. While they...
00:01:35.69\00:01:37.46
Before they even ran and hid,
they created fig leaf garments,
00:01:37.49\00:01:42.43
so I imagine like they
made kind of like bathing suits
00:01:42.46\00:01:44.57
out of fig leaves, you
know, to try to cover themselves
00:01:44.60\00:01:47.24
and
particularly cover themselves
00:01:47.27\00:01:49.47
in the private areas.
00:01:49.50\00:01:51.57
So we see like body shame
come into human experience
00:01:51.61\00:01:54.54
at that point and
like I said before,
00:01:54.58\00:01:56.54
a certain amount of that is
really normal for human beings.
00:01:56.58\00:02:01.32
But what the enemy does
00:02:01.35\00:02:03.49
is he tries to take
advantage of that body shame
00:02:03.52\00:02:05.99
and take it way
beyond where it needs to go.
00:02:06.02\00:02:08.72
How so?
00:02:08.76\00:02:10.09
Well, for instance,
00:02:10.13\00:02:11.46
the incredible
self-consciousness
00:02:11.49\00:02:13.29
that we feel about how we look,
00:02:13.33\00:02:15.96
I think that's a big
issue particularly for women
00:02:16.00\00:02:19.87
because there's more
pressure on women to look
00:02:19.90\00:02:22.00
just so than I would
argue than there is on men,
00:02:22.04\00:02:24.84
although it's there too.
00:02:24.87\00:02:26.21
Yeah, I'd agree with that. Yeah.
00:02:26.24\00:02:28.44
So let me give you
some statistics here
00:02:28.48\00:02:31.81
that help illustrate this.
00:02:31.85\00:02:33.75
Seventy percent of women,
00:02:33.78\00:02:35.58
18 to 30 years old
don't like the way they look.
00:02:35.62\00:02:39.49
Seventy percent? A
vast majority of women.
00:02:39.52\00:02:42.79
Eighteen to thirty years old
00:02:42.82\00:02:44.19
which is the best looking
you'll ever be, 18 to 30.
00:02:44.23\00:02:48.16
And they're still not happy
00:02:48.20\00:02:49.53
with how they look, you
know, like their bodies.
00:02:49.56\00:02:50.90
That's a high percentage.
That's a high percentage.
00:02:50.93\00:02:53.13
The same thing is true of
men but not quite as high.
00:02:53.17\00:02:54.97
So 43% of men don't
like the way they look.
00:02:55.00\00:02:57.37
Same age? Same age range, yes.
00:02:57.41\00:02:59.44
Okay.
00:02:59.47\00:03:00.81
Only 20% of men
00:03:00.84\00:03:03.35
and 11% of women
are body positive,
00:03:03.38\00:03:06.51
so there's a
little margin in there
00:03:06.55\00:03:07.88
that people are kind
of neutral or apathetic.
00:03:07.92\00:03:10.35
But there's only 20%
of men and 11% of women
00:03:10.39\00:03:12.65
that are actually
happy with the way they look.
00:03:12.69\00:03:15.49
So let me give you some
idea how that comes about,
00:03:15.52\00:03:18.19
and I think that part of
it is just innate, you know,
00:03:18.23\00:03:20.90
in us to be ashamed
now that we're fallen.
00:03:20.93\00:03:25.70
But I think the
media and the world
00:03:25.73\00:03:29.67
really accentuates it
through various means.
00:03:29.70\00:03:32.11
So let me give you an
example of one of the ways.
00:03:32.14\00:03:35.44
A human G.I. Joe, if you
were to take the G.I. Joe doll
00:03:35.48\00:03:38.65
and make it into a human being,
00:03:38.68\00:03:40.02
it would have a 44-inch
chest and a 29-inch waist...
00:03:40.05\00:03:43.92
Twenty nine-inch waist?
00:03:43.95\00:03:45.29
Which is the rare man
that has those measurements.
00:03:45.32\00:03:46.72
Yeah. That is so unreal.
00:03:46.76\00:03:49.52
'Cause the
average man is basically
00:03:49.56\00:03:51.59
is a 39-inch chest
and a 40-inch waist.
00:03:51.63\00:03:54.96
Okay. So it's
just totally different.
00:03:55.00\00:03:57.17
But it gets even worse, okay?
00:03:57.20\00:03:58.93
So for women, a Barbie,
00:03:58.97\00:04:02.17
it's measurements
would be 36-18-33.
00:04:02.20\00:04:08.31
If you've ever
taken your measurements
00:04:08.34\00:04:09.68
as a woman, you know
00:04:09.71\00:04:11.05
that is like way off
of what any normal woman
00:04:11.08\00:04:13.98
would be shaped like
00:04:14.02\00:04:15.35
and she would have
a 9-inch inch neck.
00:04:15.38\00:04:19.19
So basically her
neck would be nonexistent,
00:04:19.22\00:04:21.02
that's what you are saying.
00:04:21.06\00:04:22.39
Exactly, like the
neck of an average woman
00:04:22.42\00:04:24.59
is about 15 inches
and a Barbie would have...
00:04:24.63\00:04:26.83
I think mine, I have
a really skinny neck,
00:04:26.86\00:04:29.30
but my neck is way
bigger than 9 inches.
00:04:29.33\00:04:32.03
You know, I
remember sitting on a...
00:04:32.07\00:04:33.87
I was putting on a shirt
00:04:33.90\00:04:35.94
and my husband
was sitting on the bed
00:04:35.97\00:04:37.81
and the collar of the shirt
kept falling down and I said,
00:04:37.84\00:04:41.01
"I should put something
in the collar of the shirt
00:04:41.04\00:04:42.84
to make it stand
up," and he said,
00:04:42.88\00:04:44.21
"How about a neck."
00:04:44.25\00:04:45.58
Because I have a skinny neck.
00:04:45.61\00:04:47.88
But a 9 inch neck is like almost
00:04:47.92\00:04:49.62
a non-existent
neck like you said.
00:04:49.65\00:04:51.29
So that's what a
Barbie would look like,
00:04:51.32\00:04:52.85
if it was a real person.
00:04:52.89\00:04:54.22
Obviously,
we're putting an image
00:04:54.26\00:04:55.82
in front of our young girls
of an ideal of female beauty
00:04:55.86\00:05:01.40
which is really not beautiful,
00:05:01.43\00:05:03.00
it's odd if you
see it in human form.
00:05:03.03\00:05:05.23
It's highly unrealistic
and I think that accentuates
00:05:05.27\00:05:09.20
what I'm calling body shame.
00:05:09.24\00:05:11.41
Yeah, and so the
media uses body shame
00:05:11.44\00:05:14.28
to commercial advantage.
00:05:14.31\00:05:15.68
So let me flesh
something out for you here.
00:05:15.71\00:05:17.68
Okay.
00:05:17.71\00:05:19.05
Basically a lot of women
00:05:19.08\00:05:21.92
are getting breast
implants these days.
00:05:21.95\00:05:24.29
If you look at
television from 20-25 years ago,
00:05:24.32\00:05:29.22
the women were
overall much smaller
00:05:29.26\00:05:31.83
in that department, if
I could say it that way.
00:05:31.86\00:05:33.23
Yeah.
00:05:33.26\00:05:34.60
But today you see a lot
more of the ideal female body
00:05:34.63\00:05:38.03
being at large breasted.
00:05:38.07\00:05:39.40
Well, that's
because right at the time
00:05:39.43\00:05:41.17
when breasts became fashionable,
00:05:41.20\00:05:43.30
they also became more available,
00:05:43.34\00:05:46.44
they became a
commodity, so to speak.
00:05:46.47\00:05:49.84
So breast implants became safer,
00:05:49.88\00:05:53.21
they became more affordable
for the average women,
00:05:53.25\00:05:55.45
and lo and behold the
media starts to promote them
00:05:55.48\00:05:57.92
by promoting this
really unrealistic ideal
00:05:57.95\00:06:01.26
or this ideal
that isn't really ideal
00:06:01.29\00:06:03.32
for every body type,
00:06:03.36\00:06:04.96
and now every woman
feels like they need that
00:06:04.99\00:06:07.86
or many women feel
like they need that.
00:06:07.90\00:06:09.23
Not to mention the back problems
00:06:09.26\00:06:10.60
that are probably associated
00:06:10.63\00:06:11.97
with women
getting breast implants.
00:06:12.00\00:06:13.84
That's right.
00:06:13.87\00:06:15.20
One in 26 women
00:06:15.24\00:06:16.67
or 4% of women get
breast augmentation.
00:06:16.71\00:06:21.41
The breast implant
industry makes over
00:06:21.44\00:06:23.41
a billion dollars a year.
00:06:23.45\00:06:25.88
So there's a huge
commercial advantage.
00:06:25.91\00:06:27.98
A billion dollars?
That's right. That's right.
00:06:28.02\00:06:30.32
A lot of money, a lot of money.
00:06:30.35\00:06:31.69
In fashion,
there's a lot of money.
00:06:31.72\00:06:33.05
In media, in general,
00:06:33.09\00:06:36.29
if you look at the anchor
women from 20-25 years ago,
00:06:36.32\00:06:40.40
they looked like normal women
00:06:40.43\00:06:41.83
but now they
look like supermodels.
00:06:41.86\00:06:44.00
They're, you know, they're...
00:06:44.03\00:06:45.50
Everything, the way they dress,
00:06:45.53\00:06:46.87
very, very some of
the provocatively dressed
00:06:46.90\00:06:50.34
because the ante is being upped.
00:06:50.37\00:06:53.17
You know, you also see
that at a lot of conventions,
00:06:53.21\00:06:56.01
you know, how we
are talking about
00:06:56.04\00:06:57.51
body shaming and all of that.
00:06:57.55\00:06:59.11
You see that in a
lot of conventions,
00:06:59.15\00:07:00.48
you go to these
big cable conventions
00:07:00.52\00:07:03.22
or whatever the
convention may be
00:07:03.25\00:07:05.52
and people know that
00:07:05.55\00:07:07.22
there might be a
lot of men there,
00:07:07.26\00:07:08.89
so they specifically
position these ladies
00:07:08.92\00:07:13.03
to be dressed in something
that's tight and provocative.
00:07:13.06\00:07:17.13
That's right.
00:07:17.17\00:07:18.50
And so you see that
at these conventions
00:07:18.53\00:07:20.84
where decision
makers are going to be,
00:07:20.87\00:07:22.57
they are trying to
appeal to a man's sexual nature,
00:07:22.60\00:07:26.88
a perverted sexual nature.
00:07:26.91\00:07:29.11
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:29.14\00:07:30.55
I've heard that this
thing that people put
00:07:30.58\00:07:32.98
on any kind of
visuals at a booth
00:07:33.01\00:07:35.75
is a woman in a red
dress because that will...
00:07:35.78\00:07:38.19
That's the most
universally appealing visual
00:07:38.22\00:07:40.42
that will draw
people to a given booth.
00:07:40.46\00:07:41.96
Wow.
00:07:41.99\00:07:43.32
So I haven't worn a
red dress since then.
00:07:43.36\00:07:47.50
But another area
where body shaming comes in
00:07:47.53\00:07:50.63
is in the area of
thinness, an ideal of thinness
00:07:50.67\00:07:53.80
that is unrealistic
00:07:53.84\00:07:55.70
and doesn't fit every body type.
00:07:55.74\00:07:57.91
So what we have in
the fashion industry
00:07:57.94\00:07:59.77
is a lot of women
00:07:59.81\00:08:01.18
that are
extremely, extremely thin
00:08:01.21\00:08:03.75
and the reason that
they choose these thin models
00:08:03.78\00:08:06.01
is because you can
focus on the clothes more.
00:08:06.05\00:08:09.22
They say that the model
is almost like a coat hanger.
00:08:09.25\00:08:11.62
She really has
no shape of her own.
00:08:11.65\00:08:13.72
So the clothes
just fall on her body
00:08:13.76\00:08:15.52
and you focus on the clothes
00:08:15.56\00:08:17.73
instead of the body
that's under the clothes.
00:08:17.76\00:08:19.33
So there's this
unrealistic ideal of thinness
00:08:19.36\00:08:21.90
and I went through
that as a young person,
00:08:21.93\00:08:23.77
I developed anorexia
and it was pretty severe.
00:08:23.80\00:08:28.14
I got to the point,
00:08:28.17\00:08:29.50
at one point where
I weighed 85 pounds
00:08:29.54\00:08:32.54
which is basically
like 20 pounds off me now.
00:08:32.57\00:08:36.34
So I was extremely thin,
00:08:36.38\00:08:38.11
really, kind of
on death's doorstep.
00:08:38.15\00:08:40.45
But by the grace of
God, I came out of that.
00:08:40.48\00:08:42.18
One of the things
that helped me through it
00:08:42.22\00:08:44.99
was that I started to
idealize the body as...
00:08:45.02\00:08:50.49
I started to see the
body as something for service.
00:08:50.53\00:08:55.16
So I idealized
health rather than beauty.
00:08:55.20\00:08:58.83
So my body was not an
ornament to sit on a shelf.
00:08:58.87\00:09:02.57
It was an instrument
00:09:02.60\00:09:04.07
to be used in service to others.
00:09:04.11\00:09:05.64
I like that.
00:09:05.67\00:09:07.01
And then, I started to think,
"Well, I want to be strong.
00:09:07.04\00:09:09.08
I don't want to be skinny.
00:09:09.11\00:09:10.58
I want to be strong so
that I can serve more people
00:09:10.61\00:09:12.78
in more ways," and that really
helped me cycle out of that.
00:09:12.81\00:09:15.15
Yeah.
00:09:15.18\00:09:16.52
Wow, well, praise the
Lord for that deliverance.
00:09:16.55\00:09:18.49
I'm glad I got through. Yeah.
00:09:18.52\00:09:22.52
I don't know the
numbers of people
00:09:22.56\00:09:25.03
that are struggling with that.
00:09:25.06\00:09:26.96
It would be interesting one
day to look at the statistics
00:09:27.00\00:09:31.10
of people that are
dealing with anorexia.
00:09:31.13\00:09:34.40
Anorexia and
bulimia are the two most
00:09:34.44\00:09:36.10
common eating disorders
and they're both characterized
00:09:36.14\00:09:38.94
by an undue amount of importance
00:09:38.97\00:09:41.44
being placed on thinness.
00:09:41.48\00:09:44.01
Anorexia is more starving
00:09:44.05\00:09:47.58
your body down to
a very low weight.
00:09:47.62\00:09:50.65
Bulimia involves
bingeing and purging.
00:09:50.69\00:09:52.79
But both of
them, in both of them
00:09:52.82\00:09:54.82
the individual is very
focused on body weight.
00:09:54.86\00:09:57.53
And I think that
that's a direct result
00:09:57.56\00:09:59.39
of the media and how it holds up
00:09:59.43\00:10:01.46
this unrealistic
ideal of thinness
00:10:01.50\00:10:03.33
because we don't see anorexia
or bulimia in populations
00:10:03.37\00:10:09.40
that don't have as
much fashion influence.
00:10:09.44\00:10:12.77
And anywhere in the world
00:10:12.81\00:10:14.38
where there's been
any kind of starvation
00:10:14.41\00:10:16.28
or hunger, you don't see
any kind of eating disorders
00:10:16.31\00:10:18.55
because if you've got food
00:10:18.58\00:10:19.91
you're going to
eat it, you know?
00:10:19.95\00:10:21.28
So it's pretty much a phenomena
that effects the Western world.
00:10:21.32\00:10:24.35
Yeah, that sounds like me.
00:10:24.39\00:10:25.72
If I have food,
I'm gonna eat it.
00:10:25.75\00:10:27.09
You are gonna eat it. Yeah.
00:10:27.12\00:10:28.46
I love food. Yeah, me too.
00:10:28.49\00:10:29.82
I don't know what got into
me but it was just so important
00:10:29.86\00:10:32.09
to me during that
period to be just stick thin
00:10:32.13\00:10:34.80
that I didn't really
think about eating anymore.
00:10:34.83\00:10:38.57
It was really crazy.
00:10:38.60\00:10:39.93
You know, it's amazing
how sometimes you can see
00:10:39.97\00:10:44.14
that people will allow
culture to shape their values
00:10:44.17\00:10:46.84
as opposed to the
Bible, the Word of God,
00:10:46.88\00:10:50.28
and when we end up doing that,
00:10:50.31\00:10:51.81
we end up in a world of trouble
00:10:51.85\00:10:53.95
because one thing
that's constant is God's Word.
00:10:53.98\00:10:57.22
And the enemy is
going to try to shame us.
00:10:57.25\00:10:59.55
He likes to take
that sort of natural shame
00:10:59.59\00:11:02.89
that we have as a
result of our fallen condition
00:11:02.92\00:11:05.29
and really sort of enlarge it,
and amplify it, and then use it
00:11:05.33\00:11:09.00
to manipulate us into
all kinds of unhealthy ways
00:11:09.03\00:11:11.83
of trying to
cope with that shame
00:11:11.87\00:11:13.34
or trying to numb that shame.
00:11:13.37\00:11:15.77
But if you think
about it that naked
00:11:15.80\00:11:17.91
and not ashamed experience
is something that in sexuality,
00:11:17.94\00:11:23.21
in the context of a
committed loving marriage,
00:11:23.24\00:11:25.68
we return to that naked
and not ashamed experience.
00:11:25.71\00:11:29.08
And so that's
very powerful benefit
00:11:29.12\00:11:32.22
that comes to married couples,
00:11:32.25\00:11:33.72
but it can also come to
people outside of a marriage
00:11:33.76\00:11:36.83
when they cultivate a
relationship with God.
00:11:36.86\00:11:39.63
Because, you know,
00:11:39.66\00:11:41.16
I think when God came
along in the Garden of Eden,
00:11:41.20\00:11:43.87
He cobbled together these skins.
00:11:43.90\00:11:46.43
He said, you're going
to need more than them,
00:11:46.47\00:11:47.80
fig leaves, you know.
00:11:47.84\00:11:49.17
So He got these
skin garments together.
00:11:49.20\00:11:50.61
So God made them and
then God clothed them
00:11:50.64\00:11:53.74
in those skins
and that, of course,
00:11:53.78\00:11:56.51
symbolizes the righteousness
00:11:56.54\00:11:57.88
of Jesus covering
us in our sinfulness.
00:11:57.91\00:11:59.75
But I think personally,
this my personal opinion,
00:11:59.78\00:12:02.08
can't prove it, that God
looked at them and He said,
00:12:02.12\00:12:04.95
"You're going to have to
take those fig leaves off
00:12:04.99\00:12:06.39
because I'm going to put
this over the fig leaves."
00:12:06.42\00:12:08.59
Fig leaves are very
scratchy by the way.
00:12:08.62\00:12:11.09
And so they
hardly had that moment
00:12:11.13\00:12:12.49
where they were naked with God.
00:12:12.53\00:12:14.86
And we could have
that experience with Him.
00:12:14.90\00:12:17.17
We can go to him and tell him
00:12:17.20\00:12:18.80
the deepest
darkest parts of ourselves.
00:12:18.83\00:12:21.24
He knows them anyway.
00:12:21.27\00:12:22.67
But we can
voluntarily reveal them,
00:12:22.70\00:12:24.87
that's called confession.
00:12:24.91\00:12:26.24
So that's what you
meant outside of the confines
00:12:26.27\00:12:29.28
'cause I was waiting to
see where you were going.
00:12:29.31\00:12:31.41
I was like, "Where
is she going with this?"
00:12:31.45\00:12:32.85
Physical intimacy is
confined to marriage,
00:12:32.88\00:12:35.05
but we can have
a spiritual naked
00:12:35.08\00:12:36.79
and not ashamed
experience with God,
00:12:36.82\00:12:38.82
through confessing our sin
00:12:38.85\00:12:40.19
and being
honest about ourselves.
00:12:40.22\00:12:42.29
Our weaknesses, our
sins, our struggles, our fears,
00:12:42.32\00:12:45.36
we can tell God, who
already knows them all anyway,
00:12:45.39\00:12:47.96
but there is
something in the telling.
00:12:48.00\00:12:49.33
Yes.
00:12:49.36\00:12:50.70
You know, there's
a voluntary revealing
00:12:50.73\00:12:52.83
of who we are at our baseline,
00:12:52.87\00:12:55.34
who we really are in
the dark so to speak.
00:12:55.37\00:12:58.07
And we can do that
on a level with God
00:12:58.11\00:12:59.64
that we can't do with
any other human being.
00:12:59.67\00:13:01.24
Yes.
00:13:01.28\00:13:02.61
And so I just
want to remind us all,
00:13:02.64\00:13:03.98
let's take
advantage of that naked
00:13:04.01\00:13:05.35
and not ashamed experience
00:13:05.38\00:13:07.05
and whether
you're married or not,
00:13:07.08\00:13:08.78
you can go to
God and you can have
00:13:08.82\00:13:10.15
that experience with Him.
00:13:10.19\00:13:11.79
Absolutely.
00:13:11.82\00:13:13.42
That's one of the things
00:13:13.46\00:13:14.79
that is a very
intimate situation
00:13:14.82\00:13:17.66
is when you
confess your sins to God.
00:13:17.69\00:13:19.39
It is.
00:13:19.43\00:13:20.76
And you are
forgiven for those sins
00:13:20.80\00:13:22.70
and you're cleansed from that,
00:13:22.73\00:13:25.33
and then you go back
into that relationship
00:13:25.37\00:13:29.17
stronger than before.
00:13:29.20\00:13:30.54
Than ever before. Absolutely.
00:13:30.57\00:13:31.91
It's a beautiful thing
00:13:31.94\00:13:33.34
and we can
experience a little of that
00:13:33.38\00:13:35.91
unashamed intimacy in
our married relationships.
00:13:35.94\00:13:39.98
That's where the sexual,
you know, intimacy takes place.
00:13:40.02\00:13:42.88
But even in our
friendships, you know,
00:13:42.92\00:13:45.92
as we deepen in
our walk with the Lord,
00:13:45.95\00:13:48.16
we start to feel
safer and more trusting
00:13:48.19\00:13:51.39
toward other
people and we get better
00:13:51.43\00:13:53.09
at picking good friends too.
00:13:53.13\00:13:54.86
That's important. Yes.
00:13:54.90\00:13:56.23
You got to make sure
you surround yourself
00:13:56.26\00:13:57.60
with the right people.
00:13:57.63\00:13:58.97
That's right. That's right.
00:13:59.00\00:14:00.34
So a quick unpack of
what... A quick summary?
00:14:00.37\00:14:04.11
Naked and not ashamed.
00:14:04.14\00:14:05.54
The body shaming is
something sort of natural to us
00:14:05.57\00:14:08.68
but the enemy
takes advantage of it.
00:14:08.71\00:14:10.25
Let's learn to accept
ourselves the way we are.
00:14:10.28\00:14:12.38
Wow.
00:14:12.41\00:14:14.32
I love how you
covered all of that
00:14:14.35\00:14:16.05
in that short amount of time.
00:14:16.08\00:14:17.42
I am looking forward to
talking to you next time.
00:14:17.45\00:14:19.82
Join us next time.
00:14:19.85\00:14:21.19