Welcome to Issues and Answers.
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Today we're gonna be
talking about healing.
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You need something in
your life to make a big change,
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maybe you're going
through a particular illness,
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and someone has said, you know,
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"Well, if you did
this then you'd be healed."
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We're gonna talk about healing.
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Our guest today is
Pastor Kymone Hinds.
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He is the pastor
for the Overton Park,
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Seventh-day Adventist
Church in Memphis, Tennessee
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as well as a church
planter with Journey Fellowship.
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Pastor Hinds attended
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the St. John
University in New York City,
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where he studied
actuarial science.
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Then the Lord
called him to the ministry
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and he attended
Andrews University
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where he obtained a
Masters of Divinity degree.
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He's also been the
former youth director
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for Central States Conference
of Seventh-day Adventist.
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We're so glad to
have him on the program
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to talk with us about healing.
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Don't we want healing?
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Don't we want to know
about the type of healing?
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Thank you so much for coming
to the program today, Pastor.
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Thank you so much
for having me, Karen.
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You know, we're
talking about healing
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and specifically healing from
some of our emotional hurts.
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Okay.
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You know, they used
to say sticks and stones
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break my bones but
words they don't hurt me.
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That's not true.
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Words cut deep
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and words and those
things leave deep marks
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within our soul and
within our, within our minds.
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And we want to talk about
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how to get healed
from those things.
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Amen. That sounds very good.
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Sure. Sure.
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You know, and the way I wanna
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just start
talking about this is...
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Do you know that
in the United States
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billions of dollars
go unclaimed every year?
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There is money out there
that people do not claim.
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It's from gift cards
that you might have gotten.
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You know, you get a
gift card at Christmas time,
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people give you all these cards,
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and you don't spend
all of the money on it
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or sometimes you
even lose the card.
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That's money that's unclaimed.
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Sometimes that we have money
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that may be coming to us
in a class action lawsuit,
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they send you a
check, you don't cash that.
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And over and over
we go throughout life
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in the United States
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with billions of
dollars unclaimed.
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Wow. That's
pretty remarkable. Yeah.
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And I thought to myself,
I'm just this kind of person,
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I don't leave
anything unclaimed.
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I am just too broke to
leave money on the table.
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So if you give me a gift card,
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I'm gonna use it
all the way to zero.
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If I have a check that
comes in my name for 50 cents,
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I'm spending it,
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because I'm too broke
to leave money unclaimed.
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Right. No one, leave
it un... That's right.
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And what I realized
as an analogy to that,
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I'm too broken as an individual
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to leave any of the blessings
of God unclaimed in my life.
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Amen.
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You know, we
have too many issues,
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we have too many things
that we need healing from
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that if God has that healing,
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if God is the
source of that healing,
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we can't afford to leave
the blessings of God unclaimed
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in our lives.
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Right. Right.
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So that's what I
wanna talk about.
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Because what I wanna say to us
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is that God is
ultimately the source
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for the healing for the hurts
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that we've
experienced in our lives.
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God is a source for healing.
That's right. He's a source.
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And, you know, there's
a story Jesus talks about
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in Matthew 18,
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it sort of gives us
a little background on
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and kind of it's gonna be
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that the tool I'm gonna
use to walk us through this,
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so Matthew 18.
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Okay. Matthew 18.
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And it's a story where
Jesus in Matthew 18:21,
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Peter comes to Him
and asked Him about,
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"How many times
should I forgive my brother?"
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And Jesus then
tells this parable
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about a servant
who owed his master
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a whole lot of money
and his master forgave him.
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And one of the
things I wanna just say
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right off the bat is that
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God has given us
this tool of forgiveness
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to heal the hurts
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that we've
experienced in our lives.
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Forgiveness is a tool to
heal? Yeah. That's right.
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You know, I don't know
how many times we may think
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and I've thought
it, you may have,
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and others have
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that the way to get healed
from our hurt is to get even.
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If someone hurt me, I
need to hurt them back.
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But what we recognize is
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we don't get
healed by getting even,
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we get healed by forgiving.
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Wow.
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You know, forgiveness is
something that we are very,
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we're not very clear on.
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We sometimes think
when I forgive someone,
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I am doing it for their benefit.
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And because I've
been hurt by them,
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I don't want to benefit them.
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Well, the truth
of the matter is,
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God has given us forgiveness as
a way for us to heal the hurts
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that we've experienced.
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That really
happens with forgiveness?
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That's right.
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Because what forgiveness does,
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it takes something
that someone has done to us
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and allows us to
not allow that hurt
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to continue to be
perpetuated in our minds,
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not allow us to become bitter
to affect our decision making
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and to affect the
rest of our lives.
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They may have
hurt us in the past,
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what forgiveness does,
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it gives us
freedom for our future.
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So lack of forgiveness
holds us back like that?
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That's right.
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I mean, let's think
about it in our own lives.
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Someone has hurt you
and what you begin to do
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is you begin to
internalize this,
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you have emotions
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that well up inside of
you when you hear that person
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or something that
reminds you of them.
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If you meet
someone that has a name
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that reminds you of them,
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you get just something happens
internally, physiologically.
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And so there are
opportunities you miss out on,
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there are times you avoid
them and miss out on things
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that you would
have liked to enjoy.
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And just anything that
reminds you of that person
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begins to affect your wellbeing.
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And forgiveness
allows you to be free.
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Think about this.
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Not forgiving someone
is like drinking poison
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and expecting the
other person to die.
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Wow! Think about it.
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You're being bitter by
what someone has done to you,
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and you're thinking
this is gonna affect them.
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And sometimes
there are some people
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who have hurt us that
don't know they've hurt us
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and they're
going on living life.
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And here it is we're
over here allowing ourselves
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to perpetuate
their hurt inside of us.
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So you're saying it's
like drinking poison...
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And expecting the
other person to die.
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..and expecting the
other person to die.
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That's right. That's right.
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Nobody wants to
drink poison. That's right.
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And what a God we
serve that He understood
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that because of
sin life would...
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they would be hurt in life.
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And God is
saying, "I don't want you
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to carry on that hurt,
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I'm giving you
something called forgiveness
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that you can use to
be free of the hurts
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that you've experienced."
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Wow.
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So how do we learn how
to forgive though, Pastor?
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How do we learn
to forgive? Sure.
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Well, I think first of all
we have to start understanding
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that forgiveness
is not a feeling.
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You know, sometimes we
feel, I'm not ready to forgive
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because I don't feel like it.
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You know, there's
nothing in me that wants to.
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Forgiveness is a decision.
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It always starts
off as a decision.
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I decide that I am
going to enter the process,
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which it is, of forgiveness.
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I'm going to
recognize their hurts
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that have been done to me.
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I'm going to
express how I felt about it,
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whether I say it to the
person or I get it out of me.
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I wanna know this thing
has affected me this way.
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You see,
forgiveness doesn't mean
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that I minimize what happened.
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Okay.
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It doesn't mean that I
go, "No, it wasn't that bad."
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I don't have to make it smaller.
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I actually have to
say, "This is what happened
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and this is how I felt"
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to begin the
process of forgiveness.
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So recognizing? That's right.
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Recognize their hurt.
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Then after you
recognize their hurt,
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after you've
identify the emotions,
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you have to set
proper boundaries
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to make sure that
you protect yourself.
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Because unless you
can protect yourself
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and set a proper boundaries,
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you are in a state of
being almost afraid to forgive
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because you're
afraid to be hurt again,
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so you set proper boundaries.
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And the last step
is to cancel the debt,
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is to no longer hold
that against the person.
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Now, let me say
this before I forget.
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Forgiveness is
not the same thing
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as reconciliation.
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No? What's the difference?
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Reconciliation is
the work of two parties.
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It means both parties
have to agree to come back
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into the same relationship.
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Forgiveness is
actually work of one party.
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It's where one person says,
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"I'm no longer gonna
hold that debt against you.
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I am going to free myself
from being bitter toward you.
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I'm not gonna allow
what you've done to me
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to continue to affect me
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and to affect the way
that I now look at life.
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I'm going to
allow God's forgiveness
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to free me from that hurt."
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Wow. Wow.
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So reconciliation
is if two people...
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or two parties agree to try
to forgive and move forward.
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But you're saying the
gift of forgiveness is a gift.
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You don't have to have someone
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that's willing to
say sorry to you...
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That's right. You're sorry...
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You can forgive
someone... It's one way.
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...even if they say if
they don't come to say sorry,
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you know, you can
decide to forgive someone
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before they even
decide to ask for forgiveness.
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Wow.
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Because forgiveness is a gift
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that God has
given us to free us.
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Now, one of the
things that I realize
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is as we even talk about
the mechanics of forgiveness,
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we've just talked about
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how to go through
the steps of forgiveness.
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Right.
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One of the things
that people say is,
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"I'm not good at that."
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There's some people that
say, "I'm not good at that.
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I'm not good at
going through the process."
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And I really want
to talk to that person
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because I believe
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that none of us are
good at forgiveness.
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I think as human
beings, as fallen human beings,
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all of us are
bad at forgiveness.
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Yeah.
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Because we are not
the source of forgiveness,
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but we know the person
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who can provide that
source of healing to us
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and allow us to be forgiving.
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And that's what I want to
just really kind of talk about
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off of this passage.
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Because in this story,
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here is a king who
finds a man that owes him
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in our equivalent
today about $2.25 billion.
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Billion
dollars? Billion dollars.
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I'm not talking
about with a M with a B.
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Billion dollars like the money
that you and I wish we had.
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That's beyond what anybody,
most people would make, right?
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Even if they're successful,
billions is a lot of money.
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It's almost an
amount that's unfathomable,
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it's we can't
imagine someone owing that.
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And here is the king
finding this man owing that
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and he brings
before him to say to him,
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"What's going on?
Here is your account."
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And that shows us the
king is God in this story.
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It shows us that first of all
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the debt that we
owe to God is huge,
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it's enormous, it is gigantic.
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And God wants us to understand
that sin is a big deal,
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it's not small.
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When we ask God for forgiveness,
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it doesn't mean that God goes,
"Oh, that's not a big deal,
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it's a little white line."
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No, all of our sin
is a big deal to God.
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Wow.
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And so this man owed the
king a big deal, a huge amount.
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And he asks the king for time.
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He says, "Just give me
some time, I'll work it off,
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I'll do this."
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Work off to get
a billion dollars?
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2.25, think about this.
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Think about how
humorous this is.
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Nobody can work
that off. That's right.
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And that's what the humor.
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Jesus is actually giving
real, sort of a humorous story.
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Because anything
you do to work that off,
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what you pay down a $100.
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What the difference?
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2.25 billion.
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You give a $1000, 2.25...
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I mean, you're really
not really getting anything
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off of the debt.
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Right. That's
what Jesus is saying.
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There's nothing you
can do to repay the debt
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that you owe to God.
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That's the first
thing we have to recognize
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as we talk about this.
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And there's nothing
this man could have done.
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So he asks the king for time
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and the king offers
something better than time,
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he gives him forgiveness.
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In Matthew 18, he says to him,
verse 27, "Out of pity of him,
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the master of that
servant released him
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and forgave him the debt."
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Forgave the 2.2 billion.
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I mean, think about it as
the king goes 2.25 billion,
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I forgive you.
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Now, Karen, let's talk. Yes.
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Let's talk.
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Let's say you owed some
money and someone forgives you.
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Let's talk about it if you owe
student loan money, like I do.
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Yes. Yes.
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If someone forgave me
my student loan money,
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you would not be
able to contain the shout
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that I would have.
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Right. I'd be
doing the happy dance.
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That's right.
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I mean, I don't care if
you're not a dancing person.
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If someone forgives
you, your house note,
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you would get really happy
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and some dance
would come out of it.
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Oh, yes.
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If someone forgave you and said
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you don't have to pay
any of your utility bills
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for the next 20 years.
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I mean, a shout
would come up inside.
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Something would happen
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if you were
forgiven a huge debt.
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Right.
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There would be a joy
that would overwhelm you.
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There would be just something
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that would just
burst forth from you
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because that's natural.
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Yes. Yeah.
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I mean, I'm praying that
someone watching this show
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would see a way to
forgive my student loan debt.
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Yes, glory to God.
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But you would be happy. Yes.
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I'd be happy for
you. That's right.
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And that's what is
the natural reaction
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when you recognize
how big your debt is
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and how much
you've been forgiven.
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Wow.
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The natural reaction
to being forgiven is joy.
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It's overwhelming joy
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not because you are
forgiven a small amount
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but because the
amount you're forgiven
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is an amount that
you could never repay.
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Amen. Amen.
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So how does he do with, in
the story, how does that go?
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What happens next,
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once he's got
minus on a ledger 2.2...
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2.25 billion, I
mean... Unbelievable.
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We expect a party,
we expect a celebration.
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Right. The next
verse is different.
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Here is what's interesting.
It says verse 28, Matthew 18.
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I'm reading from the
English standard version.
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"But when that
same servant went out,
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he found one of
his fellow servants
00:14:13.42\00:14:15.18
who owed him 100
denarii, and seizing him,
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he began to choke him,
saying, "Pay what you owe me."
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I mean, he has
collared this other guy
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and he is choking him
saying, "Pay me what I owe."
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He said he laid
hands on him. That's right.
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Now think about this the amount,
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if we want to put
it in our dollars,
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is about $4,800,
less than $5,000.
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It's a big deal, you
know, it's some money
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but it's nothing
compared to 2.25 billion.
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Absolutely.
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But he is desperate,
he's acting frantically,
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he has no joy,
he is almost angry,
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and he's
frantically going after someone
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who owes him an amount
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that's a whole lot
less than he was forgiven.
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Why? Why?
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Well, look at even,
look at in next verse,
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which is very ironic.
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The servant says the same
thing he said to the king,
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he actually
says the exact words,
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have patience with
me and I will pay you.
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And it says this man refused.
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You know, why I
believe he refused?
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Here's why I think.
But what would you think?
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Well, first of all you
say its $5,000 of denarius.
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Yeah, 100
denarii is about $5000.
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Five thousand dollars today.
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That's something that a
person could work and pay off
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maybe a $100 a
month or whatever.
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Sure. Why was that guy so hard?
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And why was he
grabbing hold of the man?
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You said he was
grabbing him by the throat?
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That's right. Then
he is acting crazy.
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He's frantic.
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And the reason I
believe he's frantic
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is because even though
the king had forgiven him,
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he had not
accepted the forgiveness.
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Wow.
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Because if I
leave the king's palace,
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and I hear the
king say forgiven,
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but I don't accept it,
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I am still going
to find all the people
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who owe me smaller amounts
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so I can gather that
to pay down on the debt
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that I don't think
I've been forgiven of.
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And that's what
happens in our lives.
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Here's my point.
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If we accept the
forgiveness of God,
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it frees us up
to forgive others.
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But if we, in our own hearts,
don't accept God's forgiveness,
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we have no source to
be able to forgive others.
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Wow. We have no
source. That's right.
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You see, I think sometimes
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we think I can forgive
others out of my own power
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and out of my own
strength if I just want to.
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What Jesus is saying to us here,
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the reason that you are
able to forgive someone else
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is because I have poured
my forgiveness down on you,
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and my forgiveness is so
great for you that it overflows
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that you're now
able to forgive others
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who have wronged you.
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Wow. How is that possible?
Is that really possible?
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I believe it's
possible, here's why.
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You know, I'll say it this way.
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You've heard the saying
"Hurt people hurt people".
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Right.
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People who've been hurt
tend to hurt other people.
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And I think a lot of
times people who've been hurt,
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they involuntarily sometimes,
sometimes it's intentional,
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but they carry on the things
that have been done to them.
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It sort of flows out of them.
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Here is a lot of research
that supports that whole idea
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that unless you do some
kind of major intervention,
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in certain cases
people who've been,
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like you said
who've been abused,
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or otherwise have a tendency
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to then become
abusers themselves.
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Right. Well, I wanna
add something to that.
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Not only do hurt
people hurt people,
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forgiven people forgive people.
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That's what I
believe. I believe...
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Forgiven
people... Forgive people.
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- So it's a new
pattern? - That's right.
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I believe as we have
been forgiven by God,
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as we understand, as we bathe
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in the lavish
forgiveness of God,
00:18:05.75\00:18:08.48
out from us flows
forgiveness to others.
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And I believe what Jesus
is trying to say in this story
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is that, if we do
not accept and appreciate
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and allow the forgiveness
of God to flow to us,
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then it will
not flow through us.
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Wow.
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So we have to
receive in order to give.
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That's right. That's right.
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And I think sometimes
and I understand this.
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I think sometimes we
focus on us forgiving others.
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And think about this,
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if I am trying to forgive others
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in my own strength,
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it becomes frustrating
00:18:43.62\00:18:45.15
because I don't have
the source of that power
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to do that.
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There is nothing in me
00:18:51.19\00:18:52.53
that naturally wants to forgive.
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And God says, "I want
to change the paradigm."
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See, if I focused on
what the other person
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has done to me,
00:19:00.04\00:19:01.37
it makes me
bitter, it makes me angry,
00:19:01.40\00:19:03.81
it causes me to build
up resentment toward them.
00:19:03.84\00:19:07.78
So that's the
source of bitterness.
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That's the source of bitterness.
00:19:09.18\00:19:10.51
It's focusing on the injury
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or the wrong that
somebody else has done.
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So if we want to have
that will go, we focus on that,
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but if we...
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But bitterness doesn't
have consequences upon us?
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That's right. That's right.
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Bitterness, of course,
causes a whole lot of things
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physically to us but
also spiritually to us.
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It stops us from
growing the way God wants us to.
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Now, if I focus on
what I've done wrong,
00:19:30.90\00:19:33.40
it makes me
dejected, it makes me,
00:19:33.44\00:19:35.57
it takes away my joy,
00:19:35.60\00:19:37.01
it makes me
feel I can't make it.
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You know what God is saying,
00:19:39.61\00:19:40.94
"I don't want you to focus
00:19:40.98\00:19:42.31
on what the
other person did wrong,
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I don't want you to
focus on what you did wrong,
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I want you to focus on
what God did right for you."
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Amen.
00:19:47.98\00:19:49.32
And that is in Christ Jesus,
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He offers forgiveness
00:19:51.45\00:19:53.15
because forgiveness doesn't say,
00:19:53.19\00:19:55.46
it didn't
happen, it doesn't say,
00:19:55.49\00:19:57.46
it's not a big deal.
00:19:57.49\00:19:58.83
Now God shows us
in the illustration,
00:19:58.86\00:20:00.46
it's a big deal.
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Right.
00:20:01.86\00:20:03.20
What He does, His
forgiveness cost Him.
00:20:03.23\00:20:05.43
What do you mean by that?
00:20:05.47\00:20:06.80
Well, let me use
this illustration.
00:20:06.84\00:20:08.87
A few years ago I
had a friend of mine.
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This was when
cell phones were new,
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my friend got a cell phone
that was in my name, ran it up,
00:20:13.64\00:20:17.88
used it a whole
lot, didn't have a job,
00:20:17.91\00:20:20.75
and after a while I
realize he couldn't pay it.
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So what I did, to
preserve the friendship,
00:20:23.42\00:20:25.82
I forgave him.
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Now, if he were
telling you the story,
00:20:27.22\00:20:28.56
that's a great story,
00:20:28.59\00:20:29.92
I got forgiven a
whole lot of money
00:20:29.96\00:20:31.49
that I didn't have to pay
back for a phone that I used.
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But I'm telling the story
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and I wanted you to know
00:20:35.80\00:20:37.13
it costs me a
lot to forgive him.
00:20:37.17\00:20:39.67
And what I want
us to understand,
00:20:39.70\00:20:41.04
it costs God a
whole lot to forgive us,
00:20:41.07\00:20:44.04
it cost Him the life of His Son.
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It cost God His one and only Son
00:20:46.94\00:20:49.78
being separated from
Him, taking on our sin,
00:20:49.81\00:20:53.78
and dying on the cross for us.
00:20:53.82\00:20:55.75
And what I'm saying is,
00:20:55.78\00:20:57.12
if we focus on
what God did for us,
00:20:57.15\00:20:59.89
it gives us that
power to forgive others.
00:20:59.92\00:21:03.59
Because when I understand
what God has done for me,
00:21:03.63\00:21:06.36
it gives me joy, it
gives me just a peace of mind,
00:21:06.39\00:21:11.43
it gives me assurance.
00:21:11.47\00:21:12.93
And if I focus on what
He did right to forgive me,
00:21:12.97\00:21:16.17
He then gives me
power to forgive others.
00:21:16.20\00:21:18.84
Because His
forgiveness flows to me
00:21:18.87\00:21:21.78
and then flows
through me to others.
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Well, what about, you know,
00:21:24.05\00:21:25.38
you hear people
saying certainly at times,
00:21:25.41\00:21:27.35
you know, we'll have that
tape in our head that says,
00:21:27.38\00:21:29.85
you know, you did
this wrong, you know,
00:21:29.88\00:21:32.09
that rehearsing
of all the things
00:21:32.12\00:21:35.49
that maybe we've done wrong.
00:21:35.52\00:21:36.86
That's right.
00:21:36.89\00:21:38.23
That, is that a
part of being guilty?
00:21:38.26\00:21:40.70
You know, I think God
allows us sometimes to know
00:21:40.73\00:21:44.93
when we're wrong to
bring us to repentance.
00:21:44.97\00:21:48.27
But I think if we do it,
it stops us in our growth.
00:21:48.30\00:21:51.27
If it's constantly keeping
us back from coming to God,
00:21:51.31\00:21:54.84
then it's
definitely not from God,
00:21:54.88\00:21:56.21
that is from the enemy.
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That's what I wanted to ask you.
00:21:57.61\00:21:58.95
So, it's not from
God that voice that
00:21:58.98\00:22:00.52
once you've already
asked for forgiveness...
00:22:00.55\00:22:01.88
That's right.
00:22:01.92\00:22:03.25
..that keeps rehearsing over
and over again in your head.
00:22:03.28\00:22:04.82
And I'll say this, this
is like in your own car.
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Sometimes you're playing a CD
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and you're tired of listening
to that music over and over,
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what you do is you
change the soundtrack.
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And what I was saying to us
is, let's change the soundtrack.
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Amen.
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Instead of us listening
to the voice of the enemy
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that says to us, how bad we are,
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how messed up we are,
how much we've let God down.
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Let's put in a new CD
that says Christ died for us,
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that God was in Christ
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reconciling the
world to Himself,
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not counting
men sins against Him
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but God sent Jesus
His Son to die for us,
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put that soundtrack in there.
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And understand
that in Christ Jesus
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we are accepted by
God, we are beloved by God,
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He sees us seated
in heavenly places.
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In Christ Jesus we are forgiven
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even before we
ask for forgiveness.
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Yes.
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We have a God
that gives forgiveness
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before we had the
good sense to ask for it.
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And if you think
and consider that God,
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it changes how you relate to God
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because you say, "God,
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I thank you for
that forgiveness."
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And then you celebrate,
you celebrate like the person
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whose student
loan has been paid off.
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You celebrate like the guy
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who someone paid off
his mortgage mysteriously.
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You celebrate like someone
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whose car note has
been just forgiven.
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You celebrate that forgiveness,
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and it allows you to now go
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pass that
forgiveness on to others.
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Because you want to be free,
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you want to be
free from the hurt.
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Amen. Oh, that sounds so good.
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You wanna be free from the hurt.
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You want to live life
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not being tied to
what someone has done
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in the past.
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And now here is
the source of the power
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to have that healing.
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So, wow.
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All the wonderful things
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that Jesus Christ
did for us on the Cross,
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is that that's the source?
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That's right. That's
the source of our healing.
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You know,
there's a text that says,
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"By His stripes we are healed."
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Amen. And I believe that.
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I believe because of
what Jesus did on the Cross,
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it provides the power for us
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to be healed
from emotional hurts.
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And I believe, listen,
there are so many people
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that are carrying around
so many hurts from their past.
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People have done
bad things to us,
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and we're not denying it,
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we're not saying
don't say it was a big deal,
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don't minimize it.
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But what we're saying is
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don't allow that person
to still have power over you
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for your future.
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God has greater things for you.
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God has more in
store for your life.
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God wants to do
something new in your life,
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and we should
not give anyone power
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to not just take our past
but to affect our present.
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And God says,
"I wanna free you."
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And it's by the
stripes of Jesus Christ
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that we can receive
healing for our emotional hurts.
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Amen.
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I'm thinking that
maybe there's someone,
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some of us that
are watching today
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if you'd like to have prayer,
we're gonna pray right now.
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I'm gonna ask if
you would please pray?
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Sure. Sure.
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I believe that
someone needs this prayer,
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including myself.
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Amen. Me too.
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Father, in name
of Jesus, thank You.
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Thank You that
You're a God that heals.
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Because, God,
if You didn't heal,
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these hurts that
have been put on us, God,
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we can't carry them any longer.
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God, I know there's
someone out here watching
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that they have been just
tired of carrying all hurts
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where someone has
done something to them.
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And, God, they tuned
in today for this reason.
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And so I'm praying
right now in the name of Jesus
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that they would
understand, first of all,
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that You have forgiven them.
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Yes.
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Well, maybe there's someone
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who thought that
they could not be forgiven
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because their debt was so big.
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But thank You, God, that
when Jesus died on the Cross
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He cried out,
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"It is finished, paid in
full" their debt was paid.
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Amen.
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And so, God, may we receive
Your forgiveness right now
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in this moment.
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God, may we understand that
because we have been forgiven,
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there is a joy that
naturally will flow out of us
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when we recognize just
how much You've forgiven us,
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and how free
this forgiveness is.
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And, Lord, let
it flow to others,
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let it flow to those who
have hurt us in our past,
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and because it's
flowing out of us, God,
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may we forgive them
and be free ourselves,
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maybe we be free to
worship and to praise you,
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and to serve you, and
to reach out to others
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who've been hurt like us,
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to let them know that
forgiveness is offered,
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they can forgive others
because You've forgiven them.
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Thank you, God, for
hearing this prayer.
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Thank you for sending Jesus
to die on the Cross for us,
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it's in Jesus name we pray.
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Do you Twitter? I do.
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What's your Twitter?
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You can find me on
Twitter at my name Kymone Hind,
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it's real simple. Kymone Hind.
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How do you spell that?
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K-Y-M-O-N-E H-I-N-D-S no spaces,
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you can find me on
Twitter. No spaces?
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Yep. Facebook?
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Facebook.
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Same, it's
Facebook.com/PastorHinds.
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Pastor Hinds.
Pastor Hinds. Okay.
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So do you still organize
events and that kind of thing
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for people?
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Are you willing to travel
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to be able to meet the
needs of people as they come?
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Definitely. All right.
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Organizations perhaps,
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that would like
to hear this message.
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I'm willing to travel to speak.
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You can find me on my website...
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Your website? A
blog on my website.
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You blog? Okay.
Let's have it all
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Comejourney.org.
it's real simple.
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It's an invitation
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comejourney.org is my website,
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I blog there regularly.
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You can contact me there.
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And I'm willing to
come and to share with youth
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and other groups
about what God is doing.
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Because I am just simply someone
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that God has affected my life.
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And I just wanna
tell everyone else
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about a God who can do
anything in their life.
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Well, that's all
very excited ingredient.
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Yes, ma'am.
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I'm so glad that you came
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and that you were
able to share with us
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the source of healing
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so that it's like a deliverance.
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That's right. That's right.
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And no more bondage
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but a complete
and total deliverance.
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That's right.
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For those of you at home,
this is a great opportunity.
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Haven't we heard
really good news today?
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I know I did.
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I'm looking for a source.
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Sometimes we look on
the internet for sources.
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We may look for
information for sources,
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but we have now been told that
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Jesus Christ is the
total and complete source
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for absolute
healing in our lives.
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God bless you, and
thank you for joining us.
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