Welcome to Issues and Answers. 00:00:27.42\00:00:28.99 Today we're gonna be dealing with the topic 00:00:29.02\00:00:31.46 "From tragedy to triumph." 00:00:31.49\00:00:34.76 You know, that can be applied 00:00:34.80\00:00:36.13 to a lot of different situations, 00:00:36.16\00:00:37.50 it could be applied to a nation 00:00:37.53\00:00:39.17 going from tragedy to triumph, 00:00:39.20\00:00:41.30 from a group of people from tragedy to triumph, 00:00:41.34\00:00:44.74 from an individual. 00:00:44.77\00:00:46.41 Well, God has blessed us with a wonderful guest today 00:00:46.44\00:00:49.48 that is gonna talk about it all from her life story. 00:00:49.51\00:00:53.65 It is none other than Ra'Shall Steede 00:00:53.68\00:00:56.28 who is a native of Selma, Alabama. 00:00:56.32\00:00:59.55 She is going to share with us personal tragedy in her life, 00:00:59.59\00:01:03.29 and how God has made it a triumph 00:01:03.32\00:01:05.99 in the midst of everything that was coming against her. 00:01:06.03\00:01:09.66 It is amazing story that you don't want to miss, 00:01:09.70\00:01:12.13 and I'm so glad that you've tuned in. 00:01:12.17\00:01:14.84 Ra'Shall is a graduate of Oakwood University, 00:01:14.87\00:01:18.01 she is a pastor's wife, and has two wonderful children. 00:01:18.04\00:01:22.91 Welcome to the program, Ra'Shall. 00:01:22.94\00:01:26.18 Thank you so much for having. Thank you so much. 00:01:26.21\00:01:28.62 So you're from Selma, 00:01:28.65\00:01:30.65 what was it like growing up in Selma, Alabama? 00:01:30.69\00:01:34.32 Well, truly when I think about Selma, 00:01:34.36\00:01:37.76 I just have wonderful thoughts of Selma. 00:01:37.79\00:01:40.90 I know that it was extremely hard 00:01:40.93\00:01:44.53 with the racial tension, everything, 00:01:44.57\00:01:46.97 but Selma in my time there was wonderful 00:01:47.00\00:01:51.27 because I think back about family coming together, 00:01:51.31\00:01:55.11 you know, 00:01:55.14\00:01:58.78 visiting my grandparents, being with family, and... 00:01:58.81\00:02:03.35 So how was it for your family, like the generations? 00:02:03.39\00:02:07.02 You know that, that's a big thing 00:02:07.06\00:02:08.39 the March on Selma. 00:02:08.42\00:02:09.76 It was a huge, huge thing. 00:02:09.79\00:02:11.83 Did you grow up with that legacy? 00:02:11.86\00:02:13.23 Did people talk about it? 00:02:13.26\00:02:14.60 I mean... 00:02:14.63\00:02:16.03 Well, yes. 00:02:16.06\00:02:17.40 As a matter of fact, I do believe my grandmother 00:02:17.43\00:02:20.80 and my mother was a part of the march 00:02:20.84\00:02:24.57 that took place there... 00:02:24.61\00:02:25.94 They marched? Yes. 00:02:25.97\00:02:27.31 And I also do believe 00:02:27.34\00:02:28.68 that my grandmother was a part of the Bloody Sunday. 00:02:28.71\00:02:31.35 Oh, really? That took place in Selma. 00:02:31.38\00:02:34.12 So my family does have a stake in the situation 00:02:34.15\00:02:39.12 that took place there. 00:02:39.15\00:02:40.49 And it was really a tough time during that time, 00:02:40.52\00:02:44.83 but as always, God brings us through. 00:02:44.86\00:02:47.96 Well, that's interesting. 00:02:48.00\00:02:49.33 So did people, you know, your loved ones, 00:02:49.36\00:02:52.33 did they kind of say, you know, 00:02:52.37\00:02:55.10 were they angry 00:02:55.14\00:02:56.47 from what they had gone through? 00:02:56.50\00:02:57.84 Did you grew up in an environment 00:02:57.87\00:02:59.21 where people were segregated and they said, 00:02:59.24\00:03:01.78 you know, keep, stay away from white people 00:03:01.81\00:03:03.81 or stay away from other people 00:03:03.85\00:03:05.91 because they're gonna be mean to you? 00:03:05.95\00:03:08.52 Well, as a young kid, at that time, 00:03:08.55\00:03:11.92 I don't remember any of that 00:03:11.95\00:03:14.36 but I do know that there was high tension 00:03:14.39\00:03:16.76 as far as blacks getting great jobs 00:03:16.79\00:03:20.40 or, you know, we couldn't do certain things 00:03:20.43\00:03:24.03 but it was more so 00:03:24.07\00:03:26.57 not as far as the kids were concerned. 00:03:26.60\00:03:30.81 I mean, it was more dealing with the parents 00:03:30.84\00:03:33.31 and really they didn't really talk about it that much, 00:03:33.34\00:03:35.94 it was more an adult situation. 00:03:35.98\00:03:39.25 But when they dealt with us, it was more of a, 00:03:39.28\00:03:42.92 you know, just it felt like 00:03:42.95\00:03:45.75 there was none of this stuff going on. 00:03:45.79\00:03:47.46 It was always... 00:03:47.49\00:03:48.82 Things have changed. Yeah. 00:03:48.86\00:03:50.19 Well, and their attitudes and in their mind, 00:03:50.23\00:03:54.36 as far as the kids were concerned, 00:03:54.40\00:03:57.80 they always, you know, talked, 00:03:57.83\00:04:00.24 you know, it was always a happy time. 00:04:00.27\00:04:01.90 You know, family getting together, 00:04:01.94\00:04:03.37 eating together. 00:04:03.41\00:04:04.94 So a lot of the tension even if it was going on, 00:04:04.97\00:04:09.14 we weren't a part of that, 00:04:09.18\00:04:10.51 we didn't experience 00:04:10.55\00:04:12.41 the negative side of living in Selma. 00:04:12.45\00:04:16.35 There was one situation 00:04:16.38\00:04:18.25 though that I recall as a young, as a little girl. 00:04:18.29\00:04:21.69 I don't know, I might have been about seven years old. 00:04:21.72\00:04:24.63 I remember my mother sending us to the bathroom 00:04:24.66\00:04:29.90 because at that time down the street from us, 00:04:29.93\00:04:34.24 across Broad Street 00:04:34.27\00:04:35.60 because we lived on Philpot at that time 00:04:35.64\00:04:37.47 but across there was Broad Street 00:04:37.51\00:04:40.41 and the Ku Klux Klan 00:04:40.44\00:04:42.81 were actually having a march there. 00:04:42.84\00:04:45.15 And we were sent into the bathroom 00:04:45.18\00:04:48.15 because no one knew 00:04:48.18\00:04:49.52 if they would cross the road over into, 00:04:49.55\00:04:52.22 you know, cause trouble whatever, so other than that, 00:04:52.25\00:04:54.79 that was the only experience of, 00:04:54.82\00:04:57.73 you know, dealing 00:04:57.76\00:04:59.09 with the racial tension of things. 00:04:59.13\00:05:00.46 Right. 00:05:00.50\00:05:01.83 You know, we went school, 00:05:01.86\00:05:03.30 you know, it was just a happy family type. 00:05:03.33\00:05:06.13 Wow. 00:05:06.17\00:05:07.50 Then you had another incredible experience 00:05:07.54\00:05:10.67 where you actually, 00:05:10.71\00:05:12.34 you left Selma, you grew up from Selma, 00:05:12.37\00:05:14.84 but then you ended up in Bermuda? 00:05:14.88\00:05:17.88 Well, that is really funny. 00:05:17.91\00:05:19.71 Tell me about that? 00:05:19.75\00:05:21.08 Because growing up, 00:05:21.12\00:05:22.62 you hear about the Bermuda Triangle, 00:05:22.65\00:05:25.65 and you are told to stay away from the Bermuda Triangle. 00:05:25.69\00:05:29.62 And finally, I was at Oakwood singing in Dynamic Praise, 00:05:29.66\00:05:33.90 and there was a mission trip that they were having 00:05:33.93\00:05:37.53 and they were looking for students 00:05:37.57\00:05:38.90 that wanted to be a part. 00:05:38.93\00:05:40.27 I wasn't a student, 00:05:40.30\00:05:41.80 but I was there singing in the choir. 00:05:41.84\00:05:44.84 So they said, "Come, ride along." 00:05:44.87\00:05:47.21 And I said, "To Bermuda? 00:05:47.24\00:05:48.68 Really, a free trip, six weeks?" 00:05:48.71\00:05:51.91 You know, we went there. 00:05:51.95\00:05:53.28 You must have had a great singing voice, 00:05:53.31\00:05:55.75 to get a free trip over. 00:05:55.78\00:05:57.42 No, it was just some friends that I had met 00:05:57.45\00:06:00.39 that knew about the trip 00:06:00.42\00:06:01.89 and they asked me to come and I went there, 00:06:01.92\00:06:04.89 you know, six weeks, the whole time scare to death, 00:06:04.93\00:06:07.66 praying that there is no triangle to get us. 00:06:07.70\00:06:10.73 But we made it there safely 00:06:10.77\00:06:12.47 and, of course, we did a lot of God's work 00:06:12.50\00:06:14.90 and just a tad bit of our own. 00:06:14.94\00:06:17.54 Really a lot of God's work, what? 00:06:17.57\00:06:19.14 What kind of things that you do? 00:06:19.17\00:06:20.51 Well, we were doing Bible studies, 00:06:20.54\00:06:22.14 we were getting, 00:06:22.18\00:06:23.51 they were having a crusade, 00:06:23.55\00:06:24.91 and we had to prep the community 00:06:24.95\00:06:27.48 and get them ready, give them Bible studies 00:06:27.52\00:06:29.62 and, you know, talking to them 00:06:29.65\00:06:31.42 and getting their understanding. 00:06:31.45\00:06:32.85 So when it came time for the crusade, 00:06:32.89\00:06:35.12 they would be ready and be baptized. 00:06:35.16\00:06:37.43 Wow, so you were doing Bible. 00:06:37.46\00:06:38.79 So you're right there on the frontline. 00:06:38.83\00:06:40.40 So did you see baptisms? 00:06:40.43\00:06:42.10 How was that for you to be involved 00:06:42.13\00:06:43.67 with the Lord's work? 00:06:43.70\00:06:45.23 It was awesome. 00:06:45.27\00:06:46.80 I didn't knew I could do a Bible study, 00:06:46.84\00:06:48.70 had no idea, but it was really awesome. 00:06:48.74\00:06:53.44 Meeting the people, 00:06:53.48\00:06:55.11 you know, Bermuda is just a beautiful island. 00:06:55.14\00:06:58.21 Yeah. Well, it sounds... 00:06:58.25\00:06:59.58 You know, and the people are very nice and great. 00:06:59.61\00:07:03.08 Wow. 00:07:03.12\00:07:04.45 It sounds like God was preparing you 00:07:04.49\00:07:06.32 for the next step. 00:07:06.35\00:07:08.09 What happened most significantly, 00:07:08.12\00:07:10.93 in a most significant way for you 00:07:10.96\00:07:14.06 on the beautiful Island of Bermuda, 00:07:14.10\00:07:16.00 something that would change your life forever? 00:07:16.03\00:07:20.50 What was that? 00:07:20.54\00:07:22.14 Well, I met the Lord. 00:07:22.17\00:07:24.47 You met the Lord? Wow! Yes. 00:07:24.51\00:07:27.58 It was just an awesome experience 00:07:27.61\00:07:29.88 but I did meet a gentleman. 00:07:29.91\00:07:33.62 You met a gentleman? I met a gentleman. 00:07:33.65\00:07:35.32 You met the Bermudian gentleman? 00:07:35.35\00:07:37.49 I met a Bermudian gentleman. 00:07:37.52\00:07:39.99 I met him through, his mother was my Bible worker. 00:07:40.02\00:07:44.63 And whenever she couldn't come, 00:07:44.66\00:07:46.80 she would send him to take me to visit my different, 00:07:46.83\00:07:51.80 to people that I was doing studies with. 00:07:51.83\00:07:53.54 Yes. 00:07:53.57\00:07:54.90 And we just really got acquainted, 00:07:54.94\00:07:57.44 and we got to know each other 00:07:57.47\00:07:59.41 but nothing really happened until we came back, 00:07:59.44\00:08:03.35 until I came back to the States. 00:08:03.38\00:08:05.08 So did you kind of do, 00:08:05.11\00:08:06.45 you know, everyone would like to know a good romance story? 00:08:06.48\00:08:09.38 You know, did you walk the beaches together? 00:08:09.42\00:08:12.52 Yes, we did. 00:08:12.55\00:08:13.89 Did you ride those little mopeds 00:08:13.92\00:08:15.66 around the island? 00:08:15.69\00:08:17.66 Yes, we did. He actually had a motorcycle. 00:08:17.69\00:08:21.60 I think that he was, yes, and I got to drive his boat. 00:08:21.63\00:08:25.37 Oh, nice. 00:08:25.40\00:08:26.74 You know, so it was really, it was really nice, 00:08:26.77\00:08:28.77 but this was my friend. 00:08:28.80\00:08:31.27 But it was during the time 00:08:31.31\00:08:33.07 they had Hurricane Fabian 00:08:33.11\00:08:35.78 that I had gone back home and he was home 00:08:35.81\00:08:38.65 getting ready to come back to Oakwood. 00:08:38.68\00:08:40.98 But the storm came through 00:08:41.02\00:08:42.65 and it was 00:08:42.68\00:08:44.02 as if he might not have been able to come back that year 00:08:44.05\00:08:46.62 because it was really bad. 00:08:46.65\00:08:48.52 The storm was really terrible. 00:08:48.56\00:08:50.49 And I went to praying, fasting, 00:08:50.53\00:08:54.23 I watched more news 00:08:54.26\00:08:55.60 than I've ever watched in my whole life. 00:08:55.63\00:08:56.97 Wow. 00:08:57.00\00:08:58.33 Trying to just keep up with the storm 00:08:58.37\00:08:59.70 to make sure everything was going well 00:08:59.73\00:09:01.54 so that he could come back and he did get to come back. 00:09:01.57\00:09:04.27 It was bad but he was able to come back to Oakwood, 00:09:04.31\00:09:07.58 and from then on... 00:09:07.61\00:09:10.28 So you guys continued the budding relationship 00:09:10.31\00:09:13.88 and then you got married? 00:09:13.92\00:09:15.32 And then we got married. You got married. 00:09:15.35\00:09:16.89 So now tell me something about your husband? 00:09:16.92\00:09:19.02 What kind of work does he do? 00:09:19.05\00:09:20.56 Well, my husband is a pastor, he is Pastor David Steede, 00:09:20.59\00:09:24.13 he pastors at New Covenant 00:09:24.16\00:09:25.53 Seventh-day Adventist Church here, 00:09:25.56\00:09:27.26 and he is an awesome pastor. 00:09:27.30\00:09:29.86 I really like him, I can truly say it. 00:09:29.90\00:09:31.37 Oh, that's good. He's really good. 00:09:31.40\00:09:33.90 And I think he is a very compassionate young man. 00:09:33.94\00:09:37.91 So where did you guys go? 00:09:37.94\00:09:39.27 So you went from Selma, 00:09:39.31\00:09:40.74 a really tough area of the country, 00:09:40.78\00:09:44.55 you took a chance, you went over to Bermuda, 00:09:44.58\00:09:48.42 and you met a Bermudian gentleman. 00:09:48.45\00:09:49.92 Yeah. 00:09:49.95\00:09:51.29 You both came back and then you got married. 00:09:51.32\00:09:53.66 Where did you go after that? 00:09:53.69\00:09:55.79 Well, after that... Where was he assigned? 00:09:55.82\00:09:57.56 He went to the seminary? Right. 00:09:57.59\00:09:58.93 To Andrews? Okay. 00:09:58.96\00:10:00.30 So after he left Andrews, then where did you go? 00:10:00.33\00:10:02.60 We went to Massachusetts. 00:10:02.63\00:10:03.97 We moved to Massachusetts in 2005, 00:10:04.00\00:10:07.64 and we pastored there for almost 5 years. 00:10:07.67\00:10:11.07 And then we received the call to come to Memphis, Tennessee 00:10:11.11\00:10:14.21 and that's where we reside. 00:10:14.24\00:10:17.01 So, how was it moving 00:10:17.05\00:10:18.38 from the Northeast Coast down to the South? 00:10:18.41\00:10:23.05 Back again to the south, I guess. 00:10:23.08\00:10:24.52 Back again to the south. 00:10:24.55\00:10:26.59 Well, it was really interesting. 00:10:26.62\00:10:31.29 I tell you, history is really crazy. 00:10:31.33\00:10:33.93 Because in the history books, again, I read about, 00:10:33.96\00:10:37.80 you know, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts, 00:10:37.83\00:10:40.10 and Plymouth Rock and all of those things 00:10:40.14\00:10:42.14 and here I found myself 00:10:42.17\00:10:44.31 actually living there and being a part 00:10:44.34\00:10:46.41 and now to come back home again. 00:10:46.44\00:10:48.94 It was really refreshing 00:10:48.98\00:10:50.31 because I was not suited for snow, 00:10:50.35\00:10:53.18 you know, it was really cold there. 00:10:53.21\00:10:55.18 So and I was far away from my family. 00:10:55.22\00:10:59.39 So the move of coming back 00:10:59.42\00:11:02.66 was really, it was rough 00:11:02.69\00:11:05.79 but it was really happy. 00:11:05.83\00:11:07.53 It was a happy time 00:11:07.56\00:11:08.90 because I was gonna be close to my family. 00:11:08.93\00:11:11.90 Right. 00:11:11.93\00:11:13.27 So now, 00:11:13.30\00:11:14.64 this is where a life-changing event 00:11:14.67\00:11:16.94 happened in your life and I want you to share. 00:11:16.97\00:11:19.14 Take your time and share with us. 00:11:19.17\00:11:21.14 What happened on one particular night, 00:11:21.18\00:11:24.61 when you were driving back from Huntsville to Memphis? 00:11:24.65\00:11:29.65 Okay. 00:11:29.68\00:11:31.22 Well, first of all, 00:11:31.25\00:11:33.52 living in Massachusetts like I said, 00:11:33.56\00:11:35.52 I was a distance away from my family. 00:11:35.56\00:11:38.73 So I really only got to see them may be once a year. 00:11:38.76\00:11:42.33 And so moving back to Memphis it was really, 00:11:42.36\00:11:45.43 moving to Memphis it was really exciting for me 00:11:45.47\00:11:48.30 because I was only three and a half hours away 00:11:48.34\00:11:51.67 from my family, 00:11:51.71\00:11:53.34 considering 00:11:53.38\00:11:55.01 or really being 20 something hours away from them. 00:11:55.04\00:11:58.61 So that night or that day 00:11:58.65\00:12:01.45 it was actually Easter. 00:12:01.48\00:12:03.95 It was April 4, 2010, Easter. 00:12:03.99\00:12:09.52 Sabbath, it was on Sabbath that we, 00:12:09.56\00:12:11.69 well, it was actually the Sabbath before Easter. 00:12:11.73\00:12:15.96 We decided to move, I mean, I'm sorry, to visit, yes... 00:12:16.00\00:12:19.53 To travel down to Huntsville, to visit relatives? 00:12:19.57\00:12:21.50 To travel to Huntsville, to see my mom 00:12:21.54\00:12:23.91 after all of those years of not being able to see her. 00:12:23.94\00:12:27.08 It was a beautiful sunny day, I woke up that morning... 00:12:27.11\00:12:29.94 This was your first visit to see your mother 00:12:29.98\00:12:31.58 from having moved back? 00:12:31.61\00:12:32.95 After we have moved, yes. 00:12:32.98\00:12:34.32 After, you know, so I was really excited, 00:12:34.35\00:12:36.35 this was also the first time 00:12:36.38\00:12:37.82 that we could come for alumni weekend. 00:12:37.85\00:12:40.69 You know, and so I was really excited about that 00:12:40.72\00:12:43.36 and after church, we went to church, he preached, 00:12:43.39\00:12:46.73 and after church it was so beautiful, 00:12:46.76\00:12:49.10 we just let's get into the car and drive to Huntsville. 00:12:49.13\00:12:52.70 So we drove to Huntsville in hopes of seeing my family 00:12:52.73\00:12:56.00 as well as 00:12:56.04\00:12:59.27 getting to see some activities from alumni weekend. 00:12:59.31\00:13:02.24 And then as anybody else, 00:13:02.28\00:13:04.18 anyone else that's leaving from alumni 00:13:04.21\00:13:06.01 or leaving from a trip, 00:13:06.05\00:13:07.42 you got in the car and then you headed back. 00:13:07.45\00:13:10.65 But then something... 00:13:10.69\00:13:12.59 That night we were driving back and it was pretty late, 00:13:12.62\00:13:17.19 we had stayed around for a while. 00:13:17.23\00:13:18.73 It was pretty late, 00:13:18.76\00:13:20.10 and my husband was driving, 00:13:20.13\00:13:24.83 and we were on the road, 00:13:24.87\00:13:27.24 and basically the next thing I could recall 00:13:27.27\00:13:32.14 is that we're actually rolling, or tumbling, 00:13:32.17\00:13:37.25 or down the highway and... 00:13:37.28\00:13:41.68 The car is flipping over and over and over. 00:13:41.72\00:13:44.95 Just you had gotten into an accident? 00:13:44.99\00:13:46.32 Yes. Okay. 00:13:46.35\00:13:47.69 I got into an accident, 00:13:47.72\00:13:49.36 and the car is flipping and flipping. 00:13:49.39\00:13:51.53 And I can remember 00:13:51.56\00:13:53.93 hearing a voice say to me, "Call me." 00:13:53.96\00:13:58.00 Because during that time 00:13:58.03\00:13:59.37 I was awaken out of my sleep into a roll. 00:13:59.40\00:14:03.47 And I thought my husband was talking to me, 00:14:03.51\00:14:06.78 but he wasn't.` 00:14:06.81\00:14:08.24 And I heard this voice that just said to me 00:14:08.28\00:14:10.68 as clear as day, "Call me." 00:14:10.71\00:14:12.61 And I'm thinking call me, 00:14:12.65\00:14:14.08 but I'm so scared 00:14:14.12\00:14:15.85 and I started just calling Jesus. 00:14:15.88\00:14:20.19 "Jesus, help us, save us, forgive us." 00:14:20.22\00:14:22.99 And I just kept repeating that over, and over, and over 00:14:23.02\00:14:27.20 and the car finally stopped. 00:14:27.23\00:14:30.13 And when the car stopped, 00:14:30.17\00:14:32.40 my family, well, my daughter started screaming 00:14:32.43\00:14:35.90 and so I turned around to help her get out of the car 00:14:35.94\00:14:39.44 and, you know, let her get through the sunroof, 00:14:39.47\00:14:41.84 and got my son out of the car, 00:14:41.88\00:14:43.35 and my husband had gotten out of the car, 00:14:43.38\00:14:45.61 but I couldn't get out of the car. 00:14:45.65\00:14:47.95 So when I unfasten the seat belt, 00:14:47.98\00:14:50.79 I kind of dropped. 00:14:50.82\00:14:53.02 And then a gentleman came by 00:14:53.05\00:14:56.22 and he said, "Don't move her 00:14:56.26\00:14:57.89 because we don't know what's wrong with her." 00:14:57.93\00:15:00.33 And then I heard my son say, "The car is gonna blow." 00:15:00.36\00:15:04.93 But I guess I turned the switch 00:15:04.97\00:15:08.27 and took the keys out of the car. 00:15:08.30\00:15:09.64 You did? 00:15:09.67\00:15:11.01 I did all of this not really knowing 00:15:11.04\00:15:13.41 what's going on and then a few minutes later 00:15:13.44\00:15:15.84 I heard the fire department come 00:15:15.88\00:15:19.01 and they cut me out of the car. 00:15:19.05\00:15:23.22 And I heard them just asking me, you know, 00:15:23.25\00:15:26.25 what's my name 00:15:26.29\00:15:27.62 and all of these things and I said, "Okay." 00:15:27.66\00:15:29.62 It must be important 00:15:29.66\00:15:30.99 because they want me to remember my name. 00:15:31.03\00:15:33.73 So I have to remember who I am, 00:15:33.76\00:15:35.10 these are all the things that are going through my mind. 00:15:35.13\00:15:37.63 And apparently I told them, 00:15:37.67\00:15:39.00 who I was and next thing I knew, 00:15:39.03\00:15:41.40 I heard helicopter sounds 00:15:41.44\00:15:43.20 where they had flown me to the hospital 00:15:43.24\00:15:46.17 to actually at that time 00:15:46.21\00:15:47.98 it was the Med in Memphis, Tennessee, the trauma... 00:15:48.01\00:15:51.21 Trauma centre. 00:15:51.25\00:15:52.58 We need to know, that's well-known for that. 00:15:52.61\00:15:53.95 And they had taken my family to Mississippi. 00:15:53.98\00:15:56.89 So you are in the hospital? Yeah. 00:15:56.92\00:15:59.49 And what was the diagnosis? What did they say to you? 00:15:59.52\00:16:03.22 Well, they didn't say anything to me 00:16:03.26\00:16:05.83 because at that point I was going in and out, 00:16:05.86\00:16:08.06 but they told my family 00:16:08.10\00:16:10.50 that it didn't look good, 00:16:10.53\00:16:13.07 and that I had a broken leg, 00:16:13.10\00:16:15.97 and then they found out other things 00:16:16.00\00:16:18.44 that was wrong with me, which turned out to be, 00:16:18.47\00:16:21.04 both legs were broken, they're saying. 00:16:21.08\00:16:23.08 But my right leg, 00:16:23.11\00:16:24.78 it was the artery and it was really damaged 00:16:24.81\00:16:26.95 and they tried to save it several times, 00:16:26.98\00:16:29.98 but they couldn't save it. 00:16:30.02\00:16:33.59 So they ended up having to take it. 00:16:33.62\00:16:36.42 And during that time, 00:16:36.46\00:16:38.49 during that process I coded on the table twice. 00:16:38.53\00:16:41.73 That means that you died. 00:16:41.76\00:16:43.60 I flat-lined twice on the table. 00:16:43.63\00:16:47.17 My family got a phone call twice 00:16:47.20\00:16:49.34 to come to the hospital for me and... 00:16:49.37\00:16:54.41 And they essentially, like you said, they took your leg. 00:16:54.44\00:16:58.11 How long were you in the hospital? 00:16:58.15\00:17:00.22 I was in the hospital for about 00:17:00.25\00:17:03.52 maybe three and a half months or so. 00:17:03.55\00:17:08.22 I was there and then I went to rehab 00:17:08.26\00:17:10.76 on the other side of the hospital 00:17:10.79\00:17:12.43 and I was there for about a month. 00:17:12.46\00:17:15.20 And then I went home in my hospital bed 00:17:15.23\00:17:18.77 for a month. 00:17:18.80\00:17:20.80 But before I went home, 00:17:20.84\00:17:24.81 there was a situation at the hospital 00:17:24.84\00:17:27.08 when it was time for me to go home. 00:17:27.11\00:17:29.44 When it was time for me to go home, 00:17:29.48\00:17:32.45 I had to get in a car. 00:17:32.48\00:17:36.15 I was afraid to get in a car. 00:17:36.18\00:17:39.05 So I couldn't get in a car 00:17:39.09\00:17:40.72 and I beg them to put me in ambulance. 00:17:40.76\00:17:43.22 However, I still couldn't get in the ambulance 00:17:43.26\00:17:45.69 because I just kept seeing the car in my head. 00:17:45.73\00:17:51.53 I kept, so I didn't wanna get in a car. 00:17:51.57\00:17:54.87 And they wanted to put me on medication, 00:17:54.90\00:17:58.51 to get me in the car, 00:17:58.54\00:18:00.88 but I couldn't do medication 00:18:00.91\00:18:03.48 because I didn't wanna be hooked on medication 00:18:03.51\00:18:06.15 every time I got into the car. 00:18:06.18\00:18:08.45 So I just prayed a lot that God would help me, 00:18:08.48\00:18:13.02 and he helped me get in the car, 00:18:13.05\00:18:14.99 he helped me to get in the ambulance, 00:18:15.02\00:18:17.96 and they drove me home. 00:18:17.99\00:18:20.36 But at the same time 00:18:20.40\00:18:21.73 there was a wonderful gentleman, 00:18:21.76\00:18:23.20 it's amazing how God always put someone 00:18:23.23\00:18:28.50 in your life at the time. 00:18:28.54\00:18:31.17 And the actual paramedic that was in the ambulance, 00:18:31.21\00:18:35.14 he was a young guy 00:18:35.18\00:18:36.51 and I didn't even remember his name. 00:18:36.54\00:18:38.51 But all I remember were the tattoos 00:18:38.55\00:18:40.55 that he had on his arm 00:18:40.58\00:18:41.98 and he was sitting there with me. 00:18:42.02\00:18:44.12 And I was crying, and screaming, 00:18:44.15\00:18:46.42 and not acting like a first lady at all. 00:18:46.45\00:18:49.59 You know, I was just... 00:18:49.62\00:18:50.96 Understandably. 00:18:50.99\00:18:52.39 I was really scared to death but he said, "It's okay, 00:18:52.43\00:18:56.10 " and he held my hand the whole trip home. 00:18:56.13\00:18:59.53 And that was just amazing for me 00:18:59.57\00:19:01.10 because it helped me to, you know, comfort. 00:19:01.14\00:19:04.17 It comforted me in that situation. 00:19:04.21\00:19:07.38 So you went through rehab. 00:19:07.41\00:19:09.14 Now, you also happen to be in Memphis, 00:19:09.18\00:19:11.05 which is known for prosthetics, right? 00:19:11.08\00:19:13.11 Yes. 00:19:13.15\00:19:14.48 So that was a real blessing, the top place, 00:19:14.52\00:19:16.18 one of the top places in the country, 00:19:16.22\00:19:17.65 where they actually manufacture and make them. 00:19:17.69\00:19:19.75 How was that for you to, I mean, did you... 00:19:19.79\00:19:24.73 Do they automatically give that to you 00:19:24.76\00:19:26.59 or did you have to take time to heal? 00:19:26.63\00:19:28.33 How did that work? 00:19:28.36\00:19:29.70 Well, for me there was a lot of damage done 00:19:29.73\00:19:34.50 in the accident on me. 00:19:34.54\00:19:36.04 Because what I found out later was that my right leg 00:19:36.07\00:19:39.91 was in and out of the car. 00:19:39.94\00:19:42.68 And the car was rolling over it as we were rolling. 00:19:42.71\00:19:46.21 And I honestly believe 00:19:46.25\00:19:48.28 that's why God spoke to me to say, 00:19:48.32\00:19:52.82 to call Him, 00:19:52.85\00:19:54.42 because I think in that moment as I was calling Him, 00:19:54.46\00:19:58.39 it got louder and louder. 00:19:58.43\00:20:00.50 And I think during that time, you know, 00:20:00.53\00:20:03.20 I couldn't feel the pain of what was going on with me, 00:20:03.23\00:20:06.30 I couldn't feel any of that because I was calling Him. 00:20:06.33\00:20:10.01 So a lot of damage was done, a lot of meat was taken. 00:20:10.04\00:20:13.58 So I went through a lot of skin grafts 00:20:13.61\00:20:15.78 and everything on both legs, and, you know. 00:20:15.81\00:20:19.75 So it took a long time for me to heal 00:20:19.78\00:20:22.32 before I could even get 00:20:22.35\00:20:23.69 into the prosthetics and different things. 00:20:23.72\00:20:26.92 Like how long? 00:20:26.96\00:20:28.29 It took about a year or may be a half 00:20:28.32\00:20:31.49 before I could actually get there 00:20:31.53\00:20:32.86 and they could fit me for prosthetic. 00:20:32.89\00:20:35.16 And I remember driving up to precision prosthetics. 00:20:35.20\00:20:39.33 And there was a young man there who was the owner of it 00:20:39.37\00:20:44.01 and he said to me, 00:20:44.04\00:20:46.57 "It's gonna be okay." 00:20:46.61\00:20:47.94 Because when I drove up in the parking lot, 00:20:47.98\00:20:49.31 I'm thinking, "Why in a world am I here? 00:20:49.34\00:20:51.85 You know, I was just scared, 00:20:51.88\00:20:54.32 I saw a lamp in the window that had a leg and I'm like, 00:20:54.35\00:20:57.92 "Oh, God, is this really happening?" 00:20:57.95\00:21:00.12 You know, even though I knew I had lost my leg. 00:21:00.16\00:21:03.22 You know, it's something 00:21:03.26\00:21:04.59 when you go through the process of, 00:21:04.63\00:21:07.30 you know, dealing with it. 00:21:07.33\00:21:08.66 It was just like, wow, I mean, I'm scared to death. 00:21:08.70\00:21:11.43 So I went inside there 00:21:11.47\00:21:14.17 and he was so nice and he comforted me 00:21:14.20\00:21:17.11 and told me it's gonna be okay. 00:21:17.14\00:21:19.27 And he just measured me 00:21:19.31\00:21:22.04 and just talk to me about the whole process 00:21:22.08\00:21:24.51 and it went so well. 00:21:24.55\00:21:26.01 It went well about a year and may be 11 months. 00:21:26.05\00:21:32.39 I finally got, 00:21:32.42\00:21:34.06 he finally was able to shape a leg or socket, 00:21:34.09\00:21:39.19 which is the part that actually goes on your leg 00:21:39.23\00:21:41.83 and, you know, for my leg 00:21:41.86\00:21:43.77 and I was able to start trying to, you know, 00:21:43.80\00:21:46.27 just put it on and get my leg comfortable with that. 00:21:46.30\00:21:48.97 But it was really, these legs are very expensive. 00:21:49.00\00:21:53.91 You know, I always wanted a Lexus 00:21:53.94\00:21:56.98 but I guess this is my Lexus. 00:21:57.01\00:22:00.22 Because they are, you know 00:22:00.25\00:22:01.98 the cheapest one is about $28,000. 00:22:02.02\00:22:06.35 Wow. 00:22:06.39\00:22:07.72 You know, if you want one that does something, 00:22:07.76\00:22:10.16 or you look like something that's 00:22:10.19\00:22:11.56 50,000, 60,000, 80, 000 dollars that you have to pay to get. 00:22:11.59\00:22:16.56 You know those things in many... 00:22:16.60\00:22:17.93 Is it covered through insurance? 00:22:17.97\00:22:19.30 Well, see that's the key because many times, you know, 00:22:19.33\00:22:22.70 you get insurances not thinking, 00:22:22.74\00:22:25.31 that something like this is gonna happen. 00:22:25.34\00:22:27.14 Of course not. 00:22:27.18\00:22:28.51 When we got our insurance, 00:22:28.54\00:22:30.38 you know, we weren't thinking about losing a limb, 00:22:30.41\00:22:33.15 so many times you skip on that. 00:22:33.18\00:22:36.22 And so my insurance it was a good insurance 00:22:36.25\00:22:38.92 but it didn't cover everything it needed to cover. 00:22:38.95\00:22:42.99 So I, my family, 00:22:43.02\00:22:44.96 and I had to try and come up with funds, 00:22:44.99\00:22:47.23 which is a very hard situation. 00:22:47.26\00:22:51.63 But I encourage anyone, 00:22:51.67\00:22:54.27 even though you don't ever think 00:22:54.30\00:22:55.87 that you would have to experience this, 00:22:55.90\00:22:59.34 you never know. 00:22:59.37\00:23:00.98 So don't skip on those things when it comes to insurance 00:23:01.01\00:23:04.91 because it is really hard 00:23:04.95\00:23:07.25 when you don't have that into your insurance. 00:23:07.28\00:23:10.82 Well, right now, I would like to invite your husband 00:23:10.85\00:23:13.36 Pastor David Steede to come on to the set 00:23:13.39\00:23:17.19 because he was a big part, 00:23:17.23\00:23:18.99 I'm sure and we didn't have the opportunity 00:23:19.03\00:23:21.50 to have your children 00:23:21.53\00:23:23.33 who actually I had taught at one time, 00:23:23.37\00:23:25.30 they're very precious, David and Summer. 00:23:25.33\00:23:27.54 But I understand now 00:23:27.57\00:23:30.24 that you're on your own, 00:23:30.27\00:23:32.64 you drive, you do all kinds of stuff. 00:23:32.67\00:23:34.41 Can you share with us Pastor, 00:23:34.44\00:23:35.78 you know, from your point of view? 00:23:35.81\00:23:37.38 Yes. 00:23:37.41\00:23:38.75 How do you think your wife? How does she get through this? 00:23:38.78\00:23:40.98 I mean, looking on as your, 00:23:41.02\00:23:42.35 as this is the love of your life 00:23:42.38\00:23:44.09 and to see her, 00:23:44.12\00:23:45.45 I mean, look at her now, she is just beautiful. 00:23:45.49\00:23:48.69 What can you share with us? 00:23:48.72\00:23:50.09 Yeah. 00:23:50.13\00:23:51.49 You know, 00:23:51.53\00:23:54.30 before the accident my wife 00:23:54.33\00:23:59.40 loved to shop. 00:23:59.43\00:24:01.54 I mean, shop, shop, shop unbelievable. 00:24:04.64\00:24:10.05 Just like, almost woke up to go the store, 00:24:10.08\00:24:12.65 you know, so that's the reason she get up in the mornings 00:24:12.68\00:24:14.55 to go to the store. 00:24:14.58\00:24:15.92 And I thought 00:24:15.95\00:24:18.42 that there just might be a possibility 00:24:18.45\00:24:20.92 that, not that she was sort of, 00:24:20.96\00:24:23.22 you know, somewhat limited 00:24:23.26\00:24:25.99 that, that might decrease. 00:24:26.03\00:24:29.83 But it has definitely increased. 00:24:29.86\00:24:31.67 So, you know, what I'm saying, and so she gets around, 00:24:31.70\00:24:34.80 she drives often times, 00:24:34.84\00:24:36.97 she would drive and take the kids, 00:24:37.01\00:24:39.87 you know, to school, or she will pick them up. 00:24:39.91\00:24:43.45 There is nothing she can't do. She gets it done. 00:24:43.48\00:24:45.58 Really? She gets it done. 00:24:45.61\00:24:46.95 Was that hard to do? Was that hard to start driving? 00:24:46.98\00:24:48.85 It was very hard to start driving. 00:24:48.88\00:24:51.09 What was inside of you that kept you going 00:24:51.12\00:24:53.79 with all these things that came against you 00:24:53.82\00:24:56.62 and having to relearn certain skills? 00:24:56.66\00:24:59.29 How did you do it? 00:24:59.33\00:25:00.66 My children, my family was really the drive. 00:25:00.70\00:25:05.50 I remember my daughter saying to me, 00:25:05.53\00:25:08.54 "Mom, can you take us to the park? 00:25:08.57\00:25:10.77 It's right down the street." 00:25:10.81\00:25:13.51 And I said, "Yeah." 00:25:13.54\00:25:15.54 If you only know how far down 00:25:15.58\00:25:17.35 the street is for me and my mind 00:25:17.38\00:25:19.41 because like I said, I still kept reliving, 00:25:19.45\00:25:23.32 you know, being in the car. 00:25:23.35\00:25:24.75 And in my mind 00:25:24.79\00:25:26.22 I didn't wanna be the cause of anything happening 00:25:26.25\00:25:28.99 to my children. 00:25:29.02\00:25:30.39 So it was safer for me to stay in the passenger seat, 00:25:30.43\00:25:34.26 but one day 00:25:34.30\00:25:35.90 I told them to go inside and do their homework 00:25:35.93\00:25:38.80 and I said, "I'm gonna try this." 00:25:38.83\00:25:41.64 You know, so I just got into driver seat, 00:25:41.67\00:25:44.31 first of all I had to figure out 00:25:44.34\00:25:46.37 how to work the prosthetic leg, 00:25:46.41\00:25:48.28 and talk to God a little bit, 00:25:48.31\00:25:49.78 "How in a world did you take the right leg?" 00:25:49.81\00:25:52.68 You know, I mean, why would, you know, 00:25:52.71\00:25:54.98 that this is the driving leg 00:25:55.02\00:25:57.39 but I learned to manipulate the leg and, 00:25:57.42\00:26:00.16 you know, move it to the side over my lap, 00:26:00.19\00:26:02.82 so that I could get in the car 00:26:02.86\00:26:04.39 and I practiced driving out of the driveway 00:26:04.43\00:26:07.63 and going back and doing that for a while. 00:26:07.66\00:26:10.20 And then backing out 00:26:10.23\00:26:11.93 and driving down the street a little bit, 00:26:11.97\00:26:14.47 it took time 00:26:14.50\00:26:16.04 because it was more of a mental thing. 00:26:16.07\00:26:20.51 You know, it was more of getting my mind back around. 00:26:20.54\00:26:23.28 But everything during this whole experience 00:26:23.31\00:26:25.75 I prayed a lot. 00:26:25.78\00:26:27.55 I'm glad you've mentioned prayer 00:26:27.58\00:26:29.75 because I know that there are some people at home 00:26:29.78\00:26:32.49 who've gone through 00:26:32.52\00:26:33.86 some of the experiences that you have, 00:26:33.89\00:26:35.22 perhaps soldiers that have gone to war, 00:26:35.26\00:26:37.59 other people who've been in car accidents, 00:26:37.63\00:26:41.56 or because of health reasons 00:26:41.60\00:26:43.10 that have gone through an amputation such as yourself. 00:26:43.13\00:26:47.87 And I'm asking for prayer. 00:26:47.90\00:26:50.51 Sure. We can have prayer about that. 00:26:50.54\00:26:51.87 You really had a rich experience from Selma, 00:26:51.91\00:26:55.81 to Bermuda, to Memphis, from tragedy to triumph. 00:26:55.84\00:27:00.82 Yes. 00:27:00.85\00:27:02.18 Would you offer prayer, please? 00:27:02.22\00:27:03.75 Yes. 00:27:03.79\00:27:05.89 To heavenly Father, 00:27:05.92\00:27:08.02 we thank you so much for allowing us to be here 00:27:08.06\00:27:12.56 today to experience, 00:27:12.59\00:27:14.53 telling our testimony that it may help someone 00:27:14.56\00:27:18.10 who's experiencing this, God. 00:27:18.13\00:27:20.67 This is not an easy situation 00:27:20.70\00:27:23.14 to go through struggles and traumas 00:27:23.17\00:27:26.44 and come through shine in the God. 00:27:26.47\00:27:29.21 The only way we can do it is through You. 00:27:29.24\00:27:30.91 Amen. 00:27:30.95\00:27:32.28 It's You that gives us the strength, Lord. 00:27:32.31\00:27:34.48 I can see how people lose hope 00:27:34.52\00:27:37.15 and I can see how depression takes in, 00:27:37.19\00:27:40.02 but one thing I remember in my experience 00:27:40.06\00:27:43.32 is that I had to go back 00:27:43.36\00:27:44.86 and think about all of the things 00:27:44.89\00:27:46.46 that you have done for me, 00:27:46.49\00:27:48.33 all of the places you have been with me before. 00:27:48.36\00:27:52.03 And by doing that it helped me to know 00:27:52.07\00:27:55.94 that if You were with me then, 00:27:55.97\00:27:57.54 You will be with me now through this situation. 00:27:57.57\00:28:00.51 And that all we have to do is forever call upon You 00:28:00.54\00:28:03.48 and You were here. 00:28:03.51\00:28:05.01 You are there for us, when we are in trouble. 00:28:05.05\00:28:07.72 Seek you first and no matter what happens, 00:28:07.75\00:28:11.55 call on You, and You are there for us. 00:28:11.59\00:28:14.52