Welcome to Issues and Answers.
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Today we're going to talk
about issues and conflicts
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of youth in today's society.
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And what the
church can do to rescue
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and save our young people.
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Our guest today is
Richard Valenzuela.
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Richard is President
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of Leadership
Diversity Institute,
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the former Education Director
for Silicon Valley FACES,
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former Executive Director
and President of Anytown USA,
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International Council
of Christians and Jews.
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Internationally recognized
for as a diversity specialist.
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He was an active participant
in the Civil Rights Movement
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and now consults
regularly with schools, colleges
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and universities across the US.
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Richard is going to
share his life experiences
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and working with over
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10,000 young
people across the country.
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Welcome to the program, Richard.
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My pleasure. So glad
that you could make it.
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So what's happening
today with our young people?
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Well, you know, my experience
comes from working with
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what I call out of
classroom education
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which is doing camps
and retreats and workshops
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and we'll get
more into that later.
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But what I've observed
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and what I've
learned from these kids,
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thousands of kids are
some of the major issues
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that are constantly coming up,
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constantly
affecting their lives.
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And one of the big
ones is of course suicide.
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Teen suicide is at
epidemic proportions right now.
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I was working with
one school in California,
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they had up to four
suicides in one year.
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And it made national news
and it just keeps happening.
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You know, when we
take the kids up to camp,
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they begin to reveal,
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many of them
think about suicide.
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A lot of them attempted
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and then thank
God only a few succeed
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but it still, it's
happening too much.
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How did you get involved
in working with young people?
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Have you always,
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has it's always been
something that you've done,
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do you have children
of your own for example?
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Oh, yeah.
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I only have five children
they're all boys except four,
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four fantastic
daughters and one son
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and now have eight grandkids.
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But I've always had
a passion for youth,
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I worked in student
government high school
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and college and it's just,
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it's just something
that I wanted to do.
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You know, it kept directing me,
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I keep being
directed to human relations
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and even though at one time
I wanted to go into business,
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I ended up in
the nonprofit field
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and in education.
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So that's basically the
interest is just working
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and changing and
reaching these kids
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because they've got,
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lot of them have
a lot of problems.
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So what were some of
your first experiences
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in working with young people?
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You said right out of college
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you started
working with young people?
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Even before I went to college,
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I got invited to
this one camp program
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and which was called Anytown.
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And from there I thought, gee,
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this is
fantastic, we're educating,
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we're not necessarily
just marching or protesting,
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this was in the middle
of Civil Rights in 1965.
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And so I thought
this is an answer
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to some degree of
how to reach kids before
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it becomes promise,
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especially when you're dealing
with prejudice too and racism,
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bias and all that.
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It was a good
time to work with them
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and so I
volunteered for seven years
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all way through college
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and then I got into military
when I was in the service.
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I was one of the first
race relations directors
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or coordinators in the US Navy.
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And then I did
it in the reserves.
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I was one of the first to do it
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in the reserve unit in Phoenix.
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So it just kept
leading me to this
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and so I went to work,
I got to finish my degree
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and went to work for
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the National Conference
of Christians and Jews
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which at that time was
a national organization
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working in interfaith relations,
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in a group relations
and they had the camp going
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so I helped expand
it, took it nationwide,
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you know, many years.
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And so, now we're in
about 20 different cities
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across the country with about
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100 different high
schools involved in it.
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I like to do more of that
or train more people to do it.
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So you mentioned that
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suicide is a very big issue
right now with young people.
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What are some
of the other issues
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that young people are facing?
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Oh, well, you know,
one of the other ones
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that's constant is
the idea of assault
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and abuse and date rape.
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One of the segments
that we do in our...
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in many of my
programs or workshops in
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is dealing with
male female relationships
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and how can we improve them.
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And how they have
messages that they're receiving
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that are negative messages.
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And I'll get
more into that later.
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But it's just the constant
idea that this is happening.
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There are
predators on every campus
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and we need to be
aware of what we can do to,
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to cut that down.
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Especially which is the
30 show I wanted to bring up,
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especially when you
involve drugs or alcohol.
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Then that
creates a lot of problems
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with abuse and
molestation et cetera
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and then date rape.
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So those go hand
in hand and again
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a lot of kids
are still thinking,
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it's cool to smoke
and drink and do all this.
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And they just don't control it.
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So we're going to
be talking today about
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what churches can do
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and some of the issues
that young people are facing
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and how churches and
other groups can help that.
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What is the whole concept about
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out of the
classroom experiences,
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learning experiences?
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There's one more issue
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I want to touch
base or can I do it now?
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Sure.
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Okay, this is this fourth issue
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that I think is very important
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especially where
churches are involved.
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And that is to the
amount of students today
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that I see at
camp or these workshops
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that are
turning away from faith,
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turning away from religion,
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the growing number of
atheist, agnostic students.
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I did a camp recently
where we had the kids stand up
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for the different faith groups
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and there were
a few Protestants,
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a few Catholics,
a few Jewish kids.
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But all of a sudden about
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almost 50% of
the camp of 50 kids
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said they were
agnostic or atheist.
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So I think that's something that
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really needs to be
looked at and worked on too.
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Because in, you know,
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I think it has
something to do with suicide.
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Many of the great
percentage of the kids
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that they've analyzed or
studied that have no faith.
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And so it's an easier, you know,
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way to just give up and so.
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But you were telling
me, you were asking about
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the out of classroom
education concept, correct.
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Anything in
particular is the idea.
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So, is every...
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Can all these issues
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be taken care of inside
of the regular classroom?
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Well, that's it.
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This is why this
type of programming is
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can be so
effective because, you know,
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you've got classrooms
where the bell goes off
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in 45, 50 minutes and
you've got to move on.
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At least when you have
them away from the classroom
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and that's what out of
classroom education is,
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is taking them
away from the classroom
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and having them to have
time to work out their issues,
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to discuss their issues.
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You know, that's where
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the churches
have been the leaders
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in out of classroom education,
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maybe they weren't aware of it
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but every time they did a camp,
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every time they had a retreat.
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Right.
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Out of classroom
education also include sports,
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especially if they're done right
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and for the right
reasons, totally effective.
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After school programs are
becoming more and more popular
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because there's no one
home to take care of the kids,
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so after school programs
are becoming more necessary
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in many schools
across the country.
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So it really
works very effectively
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when you have those students
in an isolated environment,
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in a safe
environment where they're,
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where it's open
for them to talk about
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any issues or concerns.
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So when you have
these kind of a situations,
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what are some of the
staff that's helpful to have
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to be able to
support the young people?
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Well, that's a real
important ingredient
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in any of these out of
classroom education programs
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is how qualified the staff
are, how well trained they are
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because you're dealing
with all types of issues
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that they can come up very,
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very freely and
very openly with.
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Once you create
that safe environment,
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kids become trusting
and then they open up
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and that's when we
hear about these issues
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over and over again,
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so definitely qualified staff.
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Usually when we do
a retreat with school,
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we have, most of the
staff come from the school
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so they can go back
and support the students
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when they go back to school,
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but we also get community people
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to participate.
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Like who?
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Like who? Like yourself.
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Yeah, remember that,
when was that 5 years ago
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when you came to one of...
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to the camps in California.
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Yeah. And it.
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And I should say I'm a teacher
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in a school psychology as well,
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right.
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So you get like a psychologist,
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you get some of the counselors.
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Counselors, we get high,
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we get college students to be
in the cabins with the students
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especially if the
faculty can't do that.
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Right.
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And we also have police officers
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that sometimes come in
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and that's another major
prejudice or you know that,
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that often happens.
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So what about
in a church setting
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if you know they're not
necessarily tied to a school,
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what would be some
of the church people,
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of course, I guess you
could have the professionals
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that are in the church, right?
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Sure,
professionals in the church,
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community people
that have other jobs,
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have other thing, but
they have an interest in
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reducing
prejudice and helping kids.
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It takes a whole group
of diverse staff as well as,
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as much as you can
diverse student too.
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Because basically what happens
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at these retreats is
they learn from each other
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more than when they
learn from the staff.
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And they're not
based on lecture, you know,
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or necessarily
extensive preaching
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but it's based on
them exchanging them
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learning from one another.
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You mention basically
the four issues that you see,
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the top issues are suicide,
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the effects of drugs and alcohol
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on the young people,
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effects of sexual molestation
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and some of the other
issues and assaults, date rape.
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I mean, bullying is nationwide.
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It's good to see
that many schools
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have instituted
programs in bullying,
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but now we're cyber bullying,
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it's a whole new area you see.
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You hear kids committing suicide
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every other week
in newspaper about
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because they were cyber bullied.
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And that's where the
cyber bullying is where
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a person goes on
Facebook or social media.
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Social media.
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And what kinds of things.
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Sadly to say, but what kinds of
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maybe explain to our
audience what is cyber bullying?
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Well, basically if these kids
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are looking for
friends on the internet
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and or they are on Facebook
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or whatever, all these medias.
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And somebody gets on
their and invites them
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and wants to be their friend,
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it turns out that they
want to do something more,
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they do some harm to them
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or they tease them
or they harass them.
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From classmates.
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Yes, classmates and
so eventually, you know,
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and this
constant harassment and,
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you know, there's been
lots of cases like this
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and so the kids can't handle it,
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you know, no more so
they say I'll give it up
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and that's what
suicide is about,
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just giving up.
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One of the things that we
try to teach up in the retreats
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and I picked this up from
a young counselor years ago
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and that is to try
to tell the students
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that suicide is only...
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It's a permanent
solution to a temporary problem.
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But, you know, when a
child is going through this,
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they don't think that way,
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they have to really
look at in the future.
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And then you said
the whole concept of
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not having any
concept about God.
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What do you think that
all comes from right now
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in today's society?
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You're saying that you're
going to camps that years ago
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that people had different faiths
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and they would
identify their faith
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but now they're saying
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they don't even believe in God.
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You know, I think
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there's a lot of
things going against it.
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You know, lot of
parents have made the decision
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not to take their
children to church
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and so they say, you know,
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I've heard said
this several times,
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oh, they will make up
their minds eventually
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or they'll make
up their own choice.
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But you've got to give them,
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you've got to give them
something to choose from
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I think...
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That's a good point.
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Yeah, if you don't
do... Say that again.
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I think you really
got to give your children
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just like me and my wife did.
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We took them to
church every Sunday
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and eventually we said okay,
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now it's your choice to
whatever religion or faith
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you want to attend but
at least you had a basis,
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at least you had a foundation.
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And that's what, you know,
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this thinking that you
don't give them a choice.
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You know, that they
will get your choice
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even without
nothing to work from.
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I think another thing may be
that we become very scientific.
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You know, everything
is scientific oriented
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and so if you can't prove it
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and that's what
whole faith means you know,
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is to have faith and believe it.
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But so many people,
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young people today
are just into science
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and saying it's not working.
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Or they see some of the...
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And I've heard this argument,
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I'm sure you have
too over the years
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about all the things have
been done under the violent
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or the worse
things have been done
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under the name of religion.
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Just like what's going on
in the Middle East right now.
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Under the name of religion,
there's some terror going on,
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there's some violence
going on, killing going on
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and you can look
at that historically
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but that was a
misinterpretation,
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a misguidance, a
misused, misleaders I guess.
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Right, the Bible doesn't
teach violence with religion so.
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You're right, people kind
of take it on their own values,
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groups of people and therefore,
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so you're
saying that youth today
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are looking at
that seeing the violence
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and the
terrorism and the problems
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that are
associated with religion
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and so they're
walking away from religion.
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Yes, some are.
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Some are saying that they,
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there must not be a God if
all these problems are here.
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But if they don't have
that anchor in the word of God,
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then like you said
when they hit a problem,
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where do they go with it.
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That's right.
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They don't know where to go
and that's where the suicide
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and the other acting out
harmful things come into play.
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Wow.
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So what can churches do?
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Because you said that
churches were the leaders.
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Church, it's true,
churches were the leaders
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in the Civil Rights
Movement for example.
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Maybe give us a
little background
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on how some of the churches
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help to be able to make
things better in society
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and how you
think it can help here
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with the young people today?
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Well, let me give several areas,
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one I think is they do
they need to do more camps,
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they need to do more retreats.
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But not only for their
own members of their...
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Children, you know,
children of other members
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but also reach out
to nonmembers' children.
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I really enjoy when
I see these churches
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that bring buses
into the inner city
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and bring kids into their church
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because these kids are
not getting any direction,
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their parents
don't want to or can't
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go to a church for some reason,
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but if we got those non
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then I think that
would make a big difference.
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I think the other thing too
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I think churches need to
expand their missionary work.
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The idea of
providing more opportunities
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for young people
to go on a mission
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on one or two year commitment
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where they have to
sacrifice, so they can mature
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where they can
have that time to think
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as well as support the
church and support God etcetera.
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So you think mission
trips may be even I know,
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I've heard of some that go like
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maybe during their spring
break or during the summer
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or even if they
can have extended.
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Even though it's short term ones
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but one of things
that I've always admired is
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what the Mormon
Church has done is that
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they've got
extensive missionary program
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and so does your
Seventh-day Adventist...
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Seventh-day
Adventist they can go and serve
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for whole year as
a missionary worker.
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Yeah.
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But I think it needs to be made
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because a lot of young people
are coming out of high school
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not knowing what
they're going to do.
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Some are not ready for college,
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some don't want
to go to college.
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So why not go on a
one or two year mission.
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I mean, I even support the...
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I mean, I'm not even
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but I've always
supported military service too.
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Get away for a while,
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learn I mean I spent two years
of active duty in the US Navy
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and it was such an
experience but it made me think
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and then I was ready to
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because I wasn't
going anywhere in college,
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I was changing
majors every semester.
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So I figured out, okay,
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maybe I need to
get away for a while
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and think about what
direction I want to go
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and the military
service gave me that.
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And it also gave me
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the other reason why
I went in the service
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and it's still available
is the GI Bill go on school.
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So, there's a lot of avenues
to just for children to grow.
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I also have found that
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some churches are
taking on working with
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foster care programs
supporting foster care parents.
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How do they do that?
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Well, basically the
one church I was attending
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in the East Valley in Phoenix,
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basically
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they got involved with
the foster care program
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with the state
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and they brought in
speakers and lectures
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and they have people,
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some parents in the church
became foster care parents
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but not everybody can do that.
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But they can sure support them.
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They can mentor
the students et cetera.
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So the church took this
on as a mission project.
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They're actually having
people come in from the state
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or the county
explain the foster program,
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get their training
and then actually go
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and this is what you
see is the missionary work
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that the church can do...
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That's another major.
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Beyond the children of
their immediate congregation.
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It's a beautiful idea.
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Let me tell you,
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foster care is
one of the biggest
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social areas
today in the social area
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or support area I
guess you call it.
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And I learned that 20 years ago
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when I was working with
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one of the private
foster care programs
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that were sending
students to our program
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because here's what they found.
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Many, this is 20 years ago
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and I'm sure it's
still pretty much the truth.
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They found that
many of their parents
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were of white or
European background
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they were foster cared
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but many of their
students were minority
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so they had a cultural conflict,
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they had a racial
conflict in some families.
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So they started sending
their kids to our program
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because we talk
about race and about,
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you know, all those issues.
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But anyway it is
a growing phenomenon
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and another
reason why it's growing.
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Well, there's more and
more foster care kids out there.
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They used to support the idea
00:18:45.55\00:18:46.92
of keeping them
with their families
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no matter what,
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but then they found
there was more violence,
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there was more problems later on
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and it was better, you know,
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not to keep in
with certain family.
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Certain families are
not capable of raising kids.
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So now they're pulling
more and more of them out,
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so now the foster care
program has just mushroomed.
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There's many
more in every state.
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And I know in Phoenix or
in Arizona it's quite big
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because a lot of
people come from other states
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and they come
with their problems
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and they don't
always solve them.
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So that, their area would be
00:19:18.29\00:19:20.76
a good area to expand it.
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The churches to be able to...
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And just, you know,
00:19:24.86\00:19:26.53
nothing without even
getting into foster care.
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I think there's a
lot of adults in churches
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that could be
mentors to students
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that could help
just guide them like
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big brothers and big sisters do.
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You know, play that role
00:19:36.77\00:19:38.64
because there are
so many families today
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that are dysfunctional
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or that are missing a
parent especially fathers.
00:19:42.98\00:19:46.08
And so, if somebody
could supplement a father,
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you know, it would be fantastic.
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So those are some of the areas
00:19:51.49\00:19:54.22
and let me real
quickly check it.
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You have a nice
little list of things
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that we're looking at.
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Yeah, I just don't want
to miss any of the areas.
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Oh, you know, one
of the biggest things
00:20:03.26\00:20:04.80
that I've missed here is that.
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Encourage the
students in your church,
00:20:06.47\00:20:10.61
the young people that
are role models of the faith
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to participate in
workshops like ours
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because here's a problem I
have found over the years is
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some of the religious groups
00:20:18.71\00:20:20.05
did not want to
send their kids there
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because they
had their own camps.
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And they want to
reinforce their own beliefs.
00:20:22.85\00:20:24.79
But I always ask, well,
send me your role models,
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send me the kids
that know your faith
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so they can teach others
00:20:28.46\00:20:30.16
and that's how we
can overcome the issue of
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so many kids I would think,
00:20:32.53\00:20:34.36
I mean they could
reach out as peers
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to those nonbelievers.
00:20:36.56\00:20:38.57
So if you can send your kids,
00:20:38.60\00:20:40.44
don't just keep
them all to yourself.
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Just, you know,
00:20:42.90\00:20:45.07
let them be little
missionaries in other workshops.
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And so that would,
that would be real helpful.
00:20:50.08\00:20:54.55
Yeah, I think
that sounds really good
00:20:54.58\00:20:56.79
so the foster care,
the attending workshops
00:20:56.82\00:21:00.29
that churches
could have more camps
00:21:00.32\00:21:02.39
you're saying
where they can invite
00:21:02.42\00:21:04.66
beyond just their
regular environments.
00:21:04.69\00:21:07.86
I know that
Seventh-day Adventists
00:21:07.90\00:21:09.36
they have Sabbath
school, they have pathfinders
00:21:09.40\00:21:11.93
which is kind of like
boy scouts and girl scouts.
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So you're saying
don't just focus on
00:21:14.94\00:21:17.31
just the kids in the church,
00:21:17.34\00:21:19.37
go beyond the
walls of the church
00:21:19.41\00:21:21.41
and reach out into the community
00:21:21.44\00:21:24.38
and try to make a difference.
00:21:24.41\00:21:26.18
There's one other area
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that I want to
mention if we have the time.
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Sure. Okay.
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And that is, you know,
00:21:31.42\00:21:32.75
one of the things I think
00:21:32.79\00:21:34.12
the churches need
to reinforce again
00:21:34.16\00:21:35.59
which I was told as a young man.
00:21:35.62\00:21:39.69
I was in the
Catholic Church at the time
00:21:39.73\00:21:41.63
and this priest, older man,
00:21:41.66\00:21:43.73
and he taught me the
concept of sacred mind
00:21:43.77\00:21:47.44
and sacred body.
00:21:47.47\00:21:49.30
And I know that your church
is very much involved with that,
00:21:49.34\00:21:52.07
that, but for young people,
they don't see it that way.
00:21:52.11\00:21:54.81
They don't see their
body or their mind as sacred
00:21:54.84\00:21:56.58
until years later most of us
00:21:56.61\00:21:59.05
and that's where all
the drugs and the alcohol
00:21:59.08\00:22:01.42
and negative
behaviors sometimes come,
00:22:01.45\00:22:04.12
you know, the smoking.
00:22:04.15\00:22:05.69
I mean, I've heard
some stories where,
00:22:05.72\00:22:07.92
you know, I've not only...
00:22:07.96\00:22:10.26
See one of the areas
00:22:10.29\00:22:12.23
that we touch on at
camp is disabilities
00:22:12.26\00:22:14.46
and I'll cover that more later
but the idea that sometimes
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we cause our own
disabilities, you know.
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What do you mean?
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Disabilities can happen to us
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by chance by fate what have you.
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But if we cause
our own disability
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by drugs or
alcohol like my uncle.
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He started smoking
cigarette at the age of 16 or 14
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I can't remember for sure
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but anyway by
the time he was 20,
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he was smoking a pack a day.
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Time he was 30, he was
smoking two packs a day
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and about the age of 35
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he was diagnosed with emphysema.
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And so all you know
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having the disease of the lungs.
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And let me tell you that
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they gave him a small
little container of oxygen
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to breathe in
every once in awhile.
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Well, the last 25
years of his life,
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he had a tank that he
had to roll around with him
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wherever he went
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and so he lost out
being with his grandchildren,
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he couldn't go outside,
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it was just this
tank followed him,
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this oxygen tank.
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But he caused it,
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he could have
prevented that and,
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you know, you
hear of other things
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and accidents
that happen is a result
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of being intoxicated
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can result in being disabled.
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So we need to teach more of that
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sacred body and
sacred mind concept I think.
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Yeah.
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How about parents
or extended family?
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What do you see their
role in being able to help
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some of the young people?
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Well, I, you know,
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I wish that we had
more parenting workshops
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that's for sure.
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I like one of the concepts
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I heard about LA
about 15 years ago
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or so they were, they were.
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Whenever they
arrested a young person,
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they would go after
the parents and say okay,
00:23:48.82\00:23:50.66
now you have to go to a workshop
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or a seminar on parenting
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because this
child is out of control
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or making too
many mistakes etcetera.
00:23:55.70\00:23:57.77
And I think we
need to look at those
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type of training workshops too.
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I think there's a lot
of single parent families,
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it's becoming a phenomena
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that how many children are being
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born out of wedlock today.
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So here's kids that need support
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they need, you know,
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somebody to mentor
them as I was saying before.
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Hopefully that,
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yeah parents can do
more there's no doubt.
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And we can reach out to
other students or the kids.
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So are you available to travel
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and to be able to do
trainings for people?
00:24:26.43\00:24:29.10
Yes, I'm kind of
semi retired right now
00:24:29.13\00:24:32.07
but what I've come
down to the conclusion.
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And I think God has been
involved in this decision,
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He just said, you know,
you need to train other people.
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You need to
make a difference now
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in getting other
younger individuals
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to do the work that
I've been doing for years
00:24:45.61\00:24:47.95
and I've trained
others I've got mentees
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and I've been a
mentor to several
00:24:50.02\00:24:52.89
that have become you know
national speakers etcetera.
00:24:52.92\00:24:57.39
But I need to do more of that,
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I like to initiate programs
00:24:59.53\00:25:02.36
in churches and
schools wherever,
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school districts and teach them
00:25:05.53\00:25:08.20
how to do it themselves
so then I can walk away
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and it continues.
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In fact I have several
school districts in Phoenix
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that are now doing these
workshops all in their own,
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and it works out just great.
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So what kind of,
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how would you set
that up as far as,
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what could a person expect
00:25:23.02\00:25:24.35
if they're going to
be having a training,
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is it like a one
day or two day or,
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you know, how many?
00:25:28.89\00:25:30.23
What kind of people
should be pulled together
00:25:30.26\00:25:32.73
to be able to do that?
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Well, what I like
to do the best is,
00:25:35.03\00:25:38.37
the best I think
method would be to have
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bring him to a workshop,
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a three or four day
workshop that we do.
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And then have him go
through the activity.
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Because the first time
around, let me tell you,
00:25:49.21\00:25:52.68
our workshops not only work
effectively on young people,
00:25:52.71\00:25:56.48
adults, teachers
00:25:56.52\00:25:58.99
have all said this is
one of the best experiences
00:25:59.02\00:26:01.62
or in service
trainings I've ever attended
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and they get to go
through some of their issues.
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And I think
they have to do that.
00:26:06.49\00:26:08.03
And then the second
time they come around,
00:26:08.06\00:26:09.86
they go through experience,
then they start looking at the,
00:26:09.90\00:26:12.23
at the way it's
done and the dynamics
00:26:12.27\00:26:16.04
and the process
that makes it successful.
00:26:16.07\00:26:19.57
And so you need
to have him there.
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I can do a one
or two day workshop
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and show them some of
the exercises and go over
00:26:23.58\00:26:25.31
because here's the
other thing I've found
00:26:25.35\00:26:26.88
is many of these
exercises are out there,
00:26:26.92\00:26:28.75
they've been
out there for years.
00:26:28.78\00:26:30.52
But if you don't know how
to process or debrief from
00:26:30.55\00:26:33.25
and get the maximum
out of these activities,
00:26:33.29\00:26:35.56
you know, sometimes you can work
00:26:35.59\00:26:38.13
to the negative side
rather than the positive side.
00:26:38.16\00:26:40.33
Right, right.
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Well, I certainly appreciate
you coming to the program today
00:26:42.40\00:26:44.90
and explaining to us
about the youth issues
00:26:44.93\00:26:48.47
and how churches and
other community groups
00:26:48.50\00:26:51.94
can get involved in helping
and making a big difference.
00:26:51.97\00:26:56.41
And certainly, you know,
00:26:56.44\00:26:58.68
you can attest to
the work that's been done
00:26:58.71\00:27:00.95
over the years that
has reached so many people.
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Again I just want
to thank you so much
00:27:04.45\00:27:06.05
for watching this program today.
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And before we leave,
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I would like to be able to
just take a moment right now
00:27:09.76\00:27:12.19
to have prayer for
those that are watching
00:27:12.23\00:27:14.96
the youth leaders,
the pastor, the parents
00:27:15.00\00:27:17.83
and even some
of the young people
00:27:17.87\00:27:19.27
that may be involved
00:27:19.30\00:27:21.37
in some of the
challenges that we face.
00:27:21.40\00:27:23.87
So let's have a prayer right now
00:27:23.91\00:27:25.67
and ask God's help for that.
00:27:25.71\00:27:28.54
Thank You heavenly Father
00:27:28.58\00:27:29.91
for all that You've done for us.
00:27:29.94\00:27:31.28
Thank You for
Your Son Jesus Christ,
00:27:31.31\00:27:34.68
Who died on the cross to save us
00:27:34.72\00:27:36.15
and most importantly
He came down on this earth
00:27:36.18\00:27:38.65
and lived the life.
00:27:38.69\00:27:40.02
He was a young
person at one time
00:27:40.06\00:27:41.89
and Lord, it's Your power
00:27:41.92\00:27:44.13
to the presence
of the Holy Spirit
00:27:44.16\00:27:45.59
and the angels dear God
00:27:45.63\00:27:46.96
that are going to
come to search and rescue
00:27:47.00\00:27:48.93
your young people,
00:27:48.96\00:27:50.30
so we just want
to ask for Your help
00:27:50.33\00:27:52.60
in anyway that we can especially
00:27:52.63\00:27:54.10
as church is to intervene
00:27:54.14\00:27:55.47
and make a big difference
00:27:55.50\00:27:56.84
in the lives of
young people today,
00:27:56.87\00:27:58.21
and we thank you
the name of Jesus, amen.
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Amen.
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Again thank you
so much for coming...
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My pleasure.
00:28:02.94\00:28:04.28
And wish you well as
you go back to Phoenix
00:28:04.31\00:28:06.15
and to your family
00:28:06.18\00:28:07.52
and continue to do
these wonderful camps.
00:28:07.55\00:28:09.32
And again thank you
so much for joining us
00:28:09.35\00:28:11.99
on Issues and Answers today,
we hope that it was helpful
00:28:12.02\00:28:15.62
and I will see you next time.
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God bless.
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