Welcome to Issues & Answers.
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Today our topic is
every child's chance.
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Researchers have described
the key essential learning,
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its common core states standards
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have been adopted nationwide
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so colleges have found 17
factors that are necessary
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for children to thrive.
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But what is the chance
that every child deserves.
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Our guest today is
Walter M. Turner Jr.
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He grew up in Los
Angeles, California
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and Principal
Turner went to Walla Walla,
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got his masters from there,
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had his undergraduate
degree from Oakwood University
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in ministerial theology
and education secondary,
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you got a lot of degrees there.
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Just a few.
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And you served in
different capacities
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as principal, dean, missionary,
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evangelist in
United States and abroad.
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Welcome to the
program, Principle Turner.
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Thank you for coming.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
Appreciate the invite.
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I know you had to
stop the school day
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and everything
to be able to come
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but we're so glad to have you
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and you're here to
share with us about,
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what is every child's chance?
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What does every child deserve?
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Your word says
that all thy children
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shall be taught of the Lord,
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and great shall be
the peace of thy children.
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I believe that, I teach
that, I preach it, I live it
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and it started with me
way back in the third grade
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when I had repeated third grade
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for not doing well academically.
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And but it was not
until the sixth grade
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that I had
teachers that cared about me
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and were determined
that I would be a success
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and not a statistic.
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And we accept that Jesus
Christ is our Lord and savior
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in the sixth grade...
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In the sixth grade?
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In the sixth grade,
continued on a public school
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and went to
Whaley Junior High School
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in Compton, California.
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Wow.
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And it was that
year that I decided
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that I needed
out of public school.
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So you had just kind of
gotten into a new faith,
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had repeated the third grade
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and now we're thinking that
you needed a new kind of school
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coming from Compton.
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What did you do next?
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You know, what is your family?
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What kind of
decisions did they make for you
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so that you'll be successful?
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Well, there are five of us
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and we couldn't afford it
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and my dad said, I
would not give a one penny
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for Christian
education because I pay taxes,
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and my mother
stepped out in faith
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through the
encouragement of the dear sister
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that brought her to the Lord
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and said, I'm gonna put you in.
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We're gonna put the
children one at a time
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and so I started at LA Union...
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Oh, yeah.
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In the seventh grade.
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Wow.
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And it was in the seventh grade
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while I was having
worship, the Lord said,
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"Walter, I want
you to be a minister."
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In the ninth grade, He says,
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"Walter, I want
you to be a teacher."
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And that's what He instructed me
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to go ye therefore
and teach all nations.
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And that's what we've been doing
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for the past 32
years teaching all nations.
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So when you got that calling,
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'cause not everybody
gets a calling on their life,
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you know, where
direct kind of voice from God
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at such a young age.
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How did you receive that?
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You know, what steps did
you take after ninth grade
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to be able to become
that minister teacher?
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Well, I listen to the Lord.
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I spend lot of time in
Bible study and prayer.
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I did a lot of evangelism,
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worked with the, the
former George Rainey.
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Our Pastor Samuel
Myers in Los Angeles,
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I worked with other
evangelists in the LA area
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where we raised
a church every year
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for about eight to nine
years a brand new church.
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Wow.
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So I've lot of
experience in evangelism.
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And then as I was
growing and studying,
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the Lord said, go to Oakwood,
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and I went to Oakwood
and went right in education,
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got my degree in theology
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and modern history
secondary education,
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and from then on
rest has been history.
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Been rolling ever
since. Been rolling ever since.
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So now, like tell us
some of the experiences
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that you've had like, you know,
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your first school
was it all equipped,
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did you have, you know,
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every single
thing that you possibly
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could need in the classroom,
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what was it like?
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That was in San Francisco.
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Matter of fact I was
hired with a telephone interview
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and my mother
called me, she says,
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"Walter. a Mister
Stigner has called you,"
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I said mommy, "Stignar,"
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so I called the
number, it was Mister Stigney.
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Very fine Christian
gentleman and he interviewed me,
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next thing I knew my wife and
I were headed to San Francisco.
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Did we have everything?
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No, but it was great school
and several of the students
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that we have taught
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have gone on to be
Christian professionals
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in our Christian school in
our small Christian school,
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it went from K
through tenth grade.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with
the San Francisco Bay area,
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right, I worked there
and lived there myself,
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and so that's a kind of
a interesting situation.
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You've got a city, a
big city environment there,
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and a lot of private schools,
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good private
schools that are there
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but kind of going on to what,
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why was it so important
do you think for people
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to send their kids to a
Seventh-day Adventist school
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in San Francisco.
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Several of the
parents understood
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that the
foundation of their children,
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the educational
foundation of their children,
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what they were doing
at home was important
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and doing for Sabbath school
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church is very important,
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but they always
needed other tier,
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and I believe in the home school
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and the church approach
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you need all three tiers,
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and if one of
those tiers is broken,
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your children many
time would be deficient
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and it has been
proven through studies
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that the longer our children
are in our church schools,
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the likelihood of
them staying in the church
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and growing in the
church increase, it increases,
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if they've done the
study, it has been proven.
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And so San
Francisco was a challenge
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but it was good and
several of those students
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I've kept in touch with them,
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and they're still
in the church today.
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Wow. Amen.
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And you said they are
also serving in capacities
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as our Christian
educators around the country.
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Educators, doctors,
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they worked,
they worked in banks,
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in other professions
in the San Francisco area.
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It's been a blessing. Wow.
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So now you left San
Francisco and did you go to...
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I know, we've talked about
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some of your
boarding school experiences,
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share us some of those
life experiences with the kids,
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what are some of the memories
that you have from there?
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Our first boarding experience
was in little small school
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in Pennsboro, West Virginia,
self supporting school.
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And that was a blessing
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'cause one of the students
that graduated from that school
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is now a minister
and has done great work
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in the Adventist church.
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From there
another boarding school
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we've worked in was
Auburn Adventist Academy
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in Auburn, Washington.
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Great school, we love
Auburn and I encourage anyone,
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if you're looking for a
school where your children
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need to go away,
please send them to Auburn.
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So Auburn okay,
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the question now
everybody's boarding,
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schools gonna say settle
there, settle there, so...
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Yes, there is no
place like Auburn.
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Okay, great.
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So tell me about Auburn.
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Tell me about some of the
kids and some of the families
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and some of the situations
that you dealt with there?
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Well, Auburn, Auburn
was, it was wonderful.
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We would on Sabbath afternoon
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knowing that kids in
the dorm love home cooking.
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I would cook on Friday afternoon
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expecting another 15 or
20 to come to the house.
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Some would come on Friday
night after worship and eat,
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and some would
come Sabbath afternoon
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that we will see them
mattering across the campus.
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I said, young people,
have you checked out the dorm?
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Do the deans...
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Know that you're out.
And they would say, no.
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I said, okay, well
come on in, come on in,
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and there is a kitchen go eat
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and call the dorm
and let the deans know.
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It was just, that
was one experience.
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Something else that
happened, our second year there,
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I encouraged the juniors to
take their campus for Christ
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and they started
their own prayer meeting.
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Really, what did they do?
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They divided in
a several segments.
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One was Bible
studies, one was testimonies,
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one was a music ministry,
they had different ministries.
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My job was simply to
open the door and to monitor,
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to make sure the
kids were doing with,
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they were conducting themselves.
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And it was wonderful,
several of the young people
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that they brought in seniors,
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they brought in
freshmen, sophomores
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and then around my
third or fourth year there
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'cause I worked
there for six years.
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There were students
that, they said, "Mr. Turner,
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we need to have our own
Bible study in the afternoon."
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So I opened up the dorm,
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I mean up the
chapel at the school
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and they start off
with 10 kids, 15, 25, 30,
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next thing though
we were in the library,
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it was scores of children.
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Wow, just voluntary. Yes.
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Not required
worship, just on their own.
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Yes. On their own.
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So was every job
perfect at the school
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that you ever went,
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no problems with
any of them, right?
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Well, being the...
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I went, I started there
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as the eleventh
and eighth grade,
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I mean the Bible eleven teacher.
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And I taught some math
and some history on the side.
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My fourth, fifth and sixth year,
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I became the vice
principal and village dean.
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And someone had told me
that I was gonna be a dean.
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And I said, oh, no,
I'll never be a dean.
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But yes, I became the dean,
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the village dean, the head dean.
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And there were some
students that we had to ask
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not to return unfortunately.
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One of them that we had to
ask not to return, it was rough.
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Yeah.
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His mother and
father were very hurt by it,
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but they knew it
was the best thing.
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About a year later
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spoke to the young
man and his parents,
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he is now giving Bible studies
and bringing others to Christ
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for the same reason
that he was asked to leave,
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he is now ministering to
those type of individuals.
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Wow. Wow.
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So and he said, the
best thing for him was
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for us to ask him to depart.
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It turned his life around.
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How about
academically, you know,
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lot of times people say,
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well, it's really great
to be able to send your child
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to a Adventist
school but the academics,
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you know, we know
they're gonna get Jesus
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and everything but...
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You know, do you have any
stories of were you've seen
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people's lives
totally turn around some kids,
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maybe they came
in low and you know
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share with us then?
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I have several.
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There was one young
man in San Francisco.
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He was not doing
well academically.
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And he was a discipline issue.
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We had to encourage him.
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Back in those days,
you could use other methods
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to help them to...
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And now we cannot.
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Yes, amen.
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But I learned that
by taking this young man
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and putting him in the dirt.
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Having him digging the dirt,
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it did something to
burn off that extra energy
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and his mother
says, "Mr. Turner,
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what are you doing to my son?"
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I said, "Oh, oh, oh,
wait, wait, wait, Mrs. Ramoue,
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what do you mean what
I'm doing to your son."
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My son is not
getting in trouble,
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his grades have gone
up, what has happened?
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I said, "Oh, it's
simple, I put him in the dirt."
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In the dirt?
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He, teacher would
send him to my class,
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he'd get in trouble, I
send him out into the garden
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and say, I say,
Eakay, I need two rows,
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I want all the weeds taken
out, I want you to dig it up,
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take all the weeds
out, he did a beautiful job.
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His academics went up,
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his discipline issues went down.
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The same young man
started attending Sabbath school
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and he was there
before the Adventists were
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for Sabbath school.
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He was there at 9 o'clock
'cause he had to catch the bus.
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And he also joined
pathfinders he and his brother.
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And thank God, it was a miracle
that happened years later.
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I was the only teacher
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that he invited
back to his wedding.
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Wow. My wife and I.
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That's really great.
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That's just one and now
there have been other young...
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Tell us some more.
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That have
struggled over the years.
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And I remember one young man
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I taught in Las
Vegas and the pastor said,
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my son has never
done well in school,
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and he has turned it around
and it's all because of Mr. T.
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And I said, no,
it's not me, it's Jesus.
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I'm just loving the kids
and helping them to know Jesus
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as their personal
savior and putting before them
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that they can be
whatever they want to be
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and so yes, there have been
students throughout the years
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that have just, they
did just enough to get by
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and I've held the fire to them,
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I said, you can be, you
could do better than this.
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You know, there is no
mind we have been told
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there is no mind that is
too dull to learn, no mind.
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Right, right.
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So I believe it and I tell kids
regardless of your past scores,
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regardless of your low
grades, you are intelligent,
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you are smart,
and they said, "I am?"
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And then I help them,
take them where they are
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and then build them
up, and then as they see
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success breed success, and
that's very, very important
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that our audience misunderstand.
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Success breed
success, so if every parent,
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teacher, educator,
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church member will simply
take the kids where they are
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and continue to give
them positive encouragement.
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They will climb and as a result
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some have become great
leaders in our church today.
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They've baptized
many souls, so God says,
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he said, Walter, go take
this gospel to all the world,
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teach all
nations, I have done that
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and those students
have gone throughout,
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throughout the world.
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Some have been missionaries,
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there two have
been my own children.
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Wow.
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And that has been a blessing.
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Well, I'm big on the
Christian education too...
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Yes, Ma'am.
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As a Christian
educator, I got my shirt on.
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Yes.
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Okay, and my
children have gone through.
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Amen.
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But what can you
share with your audience
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what is special?
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What happens
like in a typical day
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in a Adventist school?
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What's so special about
there as supposed to maybe
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another kind of a school.
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Why again we got
to go back to that
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because a lot of people
are asking that question.
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Yeah, you know,
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if I take my kid to
my children to church,
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you know,
helping them after school
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and we're having
worship in our home,
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you know, and the cost
for Christian education?
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The cost, I
deal with that first.
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The cost is an investment.
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It's not, yes, I could
drive a nicer car today,
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I could have nicer
clothes and fancy house,
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but knowing that my
children and I've called them,
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text them on Sabbath
morning, they text me
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and they've told me
daddy we're in church.
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I said, "Why are you
texting me in church?"
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You know, there was
something happening in church
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and as if is it
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something exciting
was happening in church
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that they want
me to know about it.
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That is very, very important.
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The foundation that we
set with the morning worship
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with Sabbath school and
then school, why school?
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We're taught, we are
told about serving the Lord
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that is that early education,
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those first few years,
many wait till college.
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And I say it
kindly, it's too late
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because their habits
have already been formed.
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So we over the 32 years,
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the teachers that
I have worked with
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were shaping and
molding characters.
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When a child has an issue,
we can stop and we can pray.
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We can encourage them.
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We can put our arm around them.
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And they're
hurting on the inside,
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they're coming from situations
where home may be broken.
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And we can say,
Jesus is there with us.
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We can do this in Jesus.
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The Lord is going to anoint.
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He's gonna work
the situation out.
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I've had to bury students.
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I've had to deal with
those that have lost loved ones.
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And when you can take that
spirituality and the academics,
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then you have a holistic person,
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and they're well rounded,
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and they can go on
to do great things.
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So the typical day,
yeah, but the typical day,
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we start the day
off with worship.
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We start it off with Jesus.
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I've had parents
tell me, "Mr. Turner,
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I know my child is
active but one thing that
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I'm loving above all
things is him coming home
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quoting scripture,
singing the Christian songs,
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excited about his studies.
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What else can I say, it just,
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and then you just
continue to build on that
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and continue to build on it.
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And as a result every school,
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every school
that I administered in
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several have given
their life to Jesus, several.
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And that's the
most important thing,
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you know, that's the big why,
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that we want to have the kids be
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able to give their
hearts to the Lord.
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You mentioned something
that I want to go back to,
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you said that you had
to bury some students.
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Yes.
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How old were they?
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One was in the,
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I believe she was a
first grader, she had cancer.
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First grade?
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So there is no guarantee
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that children are
gonna live a certain life
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and then we hope
maybe when they get older,
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then they'll accept Christ
and they'll kind of come back,
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first grade,
that's kind of young
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and what was the
other age of the other one?
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There've been, there've been...
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There was one young man,
he was in his early twenties.
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He had a
disease, it took his life,
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but there's one
thing that inspired me,
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he came to my
house and said, Mr. T,
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I know you're here, I
just came back to see you,
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and he began to tell me
his experiences with Christ.
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He says, I have this disease,
the doctors have it in checked
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and...
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but the greatest thing
that moved me was him sharing
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how he's grown in
Christ, his growing in Christ,
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then two months later we
learn that it took his life.
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So I've had a few and it hurts
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but knowing that the
children are resting in Jesus.
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Yes.
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And I can't,
that's worth it all.
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It's worth it all.
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It is, it is.
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So let's say a
parent decides okay,
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we're gonna just
figure out some kind of way
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to pay for this education
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and they bring the
child to your school
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and the student is low.
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What kinds of things you
said about little successes?
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What kinds of
things do you implement
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to be able to
help children achieve?
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I've had students that
couldn't speak English.
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So I...
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one thing I did with
him, this is the fifth grader,
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couldn't speak
English, I had a few of them
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and so I worked with
phonics, very important.
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So not only did I have my
00:20:22.95\00:20:25.59
non-English
speaking students to phonics,
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I had everyone do phonics,
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because as you
break up the phonics,
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whole language
is good you need it,
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but there's
something about phonics
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because that's
what turned me around.
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I could not read,
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I could not see the
board, I need glasses.
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And, but the
teacher taught me phonics,
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I was able...
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Once I finally caught on
that education is important
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and my mother wasn't
gonna accept anything else than,
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and she caught my attention.
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Right.
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But the key was phonics,
so I've taught kids phonics,
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I believe in
taking, taking the rudiments
00:21:01.42\00:21:04.06
of building up
the comprehension.
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And 'cause they have
build up the comprehension,
00:21:07.66\00:21:11.53
there's various things we're
using at our school in Alcy.
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And as we're building
up their comprehension,
00:21:15.24\00:21:17.94
we have discovered
that as you build that up,
00:21:17.97\00:21:21.98
the test scores
start going to the roof
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because then they
can get start reading
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all types of genre because
you've built up the reading,
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and then of
course with the math.
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We've done several
things with our math,
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with the new math system
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we have in our Adventist system,
00:21:35.29\00:21:36.62
and our kids are making
strides and so we're looking...
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What I like to
see with my students
00:21:41.46\00:21:44.00
is two years of
growth in one year.
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So if a student is low, very low
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you take them where they are,
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you build on those low
areas and success breed success,
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and next thing you know,
00:21:54.44\00:21:55.78
the child says I am intelligent,
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I can learn and
he starts taking of.
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Right, so where
does the Word of God
00:21:59.85\00:22:02.68
come into this reading and math
00:22:02.72\00:22:06.35
and science and social studies,
00:22:06.39\00:22:08.56
how was that
integrated in Adventist schools?
00:22:08.59\00:22:11.76
Throughout the whole curriculum.
00:22:11.79\00:22:13.46
Bible is not just
taught in Bible class.
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Biblical
principles are expounded upon,
00:22:16.83\00:22:19.43
are shared in all
of, in every aspect.
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I've heard it from
all of my teachers.
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I've walked in the classrooms,
one of which is yours.
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Yeah.
00:22:27.91\00:22:29.24
And I've heard the Word of
God being expressed in science.
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I've heard it
expressed in social studies,
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that is not going to
happen in public school.
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It can't happen
in public school.
00:22:37.95\00:22:39.29
Right.
00:22:39.32\00:22:40.66
They aren't sure... In
fact they're opposite...
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They aren't sure whether
or not we came from monkeys.
00:22:42.06\00:22:43.39
Yeah.
00:22:43.43\00:22:44.76
Now I share with my students.
00:22:44.79\00:22:46.73
I've known individuals
that look like monkeys,
00:22:46.76\00:22:48.43
they may act like monkeys
00:22:48.46\00:22:49.80
but none of us have
ever come from monkeys.
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They are not our cousins. Right.
00:22:51.67\00:22:53.47
We are made by the creator.
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We come from His hand.
00:22:55.30\00:22:57.01
And so there is like
this whole new curriculum
00:22:57.04\00:22:59.67
with Adventists
that's by designed,
00:22:59.71\00:23:02.78
tell us a little bit about
that as it relates to science?
00:23:02.81\00:23:05.98
It's excellent.
00:23:06.01\00:23:07.35
It is excellent.
00:23:07.38\00:23:08.72
I've had parents tell me
that it is, that what she,
00:23:08.75\00:23:11.79
one of parents
mission to me just recently
00:23:11.82\00:23:14.12
that what she is
doing in nursing,
00:23:14.16\00:23:15.96
what she is studying in nursing,
00:23:15.99\00:23:17.76
it's being presented
on a easier lower level
00:23:17.79\00:23:21.53
in our seventh and
eighth grade curriculum.
00:23:21.56\00:23:23.60
And she is
saying she is excited,
00:23:23.63\00:23:25.37
she says, this is
the best science program
00:23:25.40\00:23:27.44
she has ever seen.
00:23:27.47\00:23:29.20
We're one of the
best in the country.
00:23:29.24\00:23:31.17
Wow, so what about the
common core state standards
00:23:31.21\00:23:34.71
and you know all of
these other kinds of things
00:23:34.74\00:23:37.21
that are, you know, does it
00:23:37.25\00:23:38.71
will students coming to
an Adventist school get that?
00:23:38.75\00:23:42.18
Will they get? That class.
00:23:42.22\00:23:43.55
Oh, yeah.
00:23:43.59\00:23:44.92
We have... It's been proven.
00:23:44.95\00:23:46.29
That a student will be
average in our schools,
00:23:46.32\00:23:49.49
leave and go to
public school and next day,
00:23:49.52\00:23:52.43
you know, they're
top at their class.
00:23:52.46\00:23:55.66
And the parent say,
well, how can it be?
00:23:55.70\00:23:57.57
It's real simple.
00:23:57.60\00:23:59.07
Because we don't have
00:23:59.10\00:24:00.57
the discipline
issues of public school,
00:24:00.60\00:24:02.94
so our teachers can teach.
00:24:02.97\00:24:06.17
We're held to a higher standard,
00:24:06.21\00:24:08.21
so we're not able to...
00:24:08.24\00:24:09.58
What standard?
00:24:09.61\00:24:10.95
When you say you are
held to higher standard.
00:24:10.98\00:24:12.31
what does that mean? The word.
00:24:12.35\00:24:13.68
The Word of
God? The Word of God.
00:24:13.72\00:24:15.05
God says that our
children are to be taught,
00:24:15.08\00:24:17.25
they had to be the
head and not the tail.
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That's true.
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He wants our kids to
be the head, not the tail.
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So since he wants our
kids to be the leaders.
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I share with my
parents and my students.
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There are ten
people looking for a job,
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there're only two jobs.
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Why not, shouldn't
those two jobs go to us?
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And what has
happened over the years,
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our Adventist
children are well prepared
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to go into every
aspect of service.
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I've had, I've known individuals
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that attended Oakwood
and because of their academia
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and because of them
pushing and doing well
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on their test scores as
well as in their school work,
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they have been offered jobs.
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One for the CIA
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so I know this happens.
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Wow, wow so where it is okay
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so we've talked a
little about the spirit,
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we talked about the academics,
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what about social?
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Social?
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That's very, very important
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because our kids just
like any other children
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come to us with their issues,
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and so we encourage
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going spiritually
mentally and socially.
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We encourage our kids
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on how they are to
speak to each other.
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How they are to
relate to each other?
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How they are to
respect each other?
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And if a student decides
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they don't want
to be respectful,
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obedient, courteous, kind,
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then we have to ask them,
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maybe this is not
the place for you.
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But for the most part
after much prayer, hard work,
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the majority of them
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through the
anointing of the spirit,
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turn it around
and say, I want this.
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And I got so many parents say,
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there's something different
about my child, what is it?
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I said, I don't know.
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Wow.
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But I do, I guess
I do know what it is?
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It's the
spirit. The Holy Spirit.
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The God has promised,
that in the last days,
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He would pour our His
spirit upon all flesh,
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that's a promise.
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And so I claim it,
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I claim for the anointing
of God upon the children.
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And then, not only the
children but upon their parents.
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And as a result of the
children hearing about Jesus,
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we've had non-Adventist parents
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accept Jesus as
their personal savior.
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One school I
taught at just recently,
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the whole family was baptized
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because of the daughter.
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I made a call during one chapel,
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and the girl
went to the bathroom,
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got on her knees,
gave her life to Jesus,
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went home told
her parents about it
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and the whole
family was baptized.
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Well, Principal Turner,
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this has really
been enlightening,
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it's been fantastic.
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We didn't really get
a lot into the sports,
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but the sports
have a part to play
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in Adventist
education just briefly?
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Briefly.
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Sports does, but I
encourage young people,
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God has not called us to
be professional athletes,
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and yes, I do
know some individuals
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that have had the opportunity
to go into professional sports
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but they have not.
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Wow.
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Because of the
Sabbath issue. Right.
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Play the sports, have
fun, but don't forget Jesus.
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Well, I want to
thank you so much
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for coming to the program today.
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It's just been
very enlightening,
00:27:39.75\00:27:41.12
we really
appreciate your coming.
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We always like
to end with a prayer
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for the families
that are part of this,
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so we probably close
out today with our prayer.
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Would you offer prayer for us?
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Yes, let us pray.
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Father God, in
the name of Jesus,
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we want to thank
You for this privilege
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to be here today to share
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and to experience You.
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There are many people
that are listening today,
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they need to put their
children in church school,
00:28:06.21\00:28:08.75
they need to make a decision.
00:28:08.78\00:28:10.79
They may not be able afford it.
00:28:10.82\00:28:13.02
They may not know
where the school is.
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Oh, please, dear Lord,
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open the door,
just as You did for me.
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