Welcome to Issues And Answers. 00:00:27.52\00:00:29.46 Have you ever wonder what your purpose is? 00:00:29.49\00:00:31.56 Have you ever wondered about why are you actually here? 00:00:31.59\00:00:34.60 I don't care, what age are you at. 00:00:34.63\00:00:36.36 At some point of your life, you gonna hit that moment 00:00:36.40\00:00:39.13 when you're gonna say, "God, 00:00:39.17\00:00:40.70 why am I here or what is my purpose, 00:00:40.77\00:00:43.47 how can I be my very best?" 00:00:43.54\00:00:45.57 Well, we're gonna talk about that today. 00:00:45.61\00:00:47.44 Our guest is Pastor Joseph Ikner. 00:00:47.51\00:00:49.81 He is the senior pastor 00:00:49.84\00:00:51.18 for Berean Seventh-day Adventist Church, 00:00:51.21\00:00:53.21 in St. Louis, Missouri. 00:00:53.25\00:00:55.22 He has degrees from Andrews University, 00:00:55.25\00:00:57.25 both under graduate and masters degrees 00:00:57.32\00:00:59.49 and we are going to talk about, why are we here. 00:00:59.52\00:01:02.46 Pastor. Yeah. 00:01:02.49\00:01:03.83 Why are we here? 00:01:03.86\00:01:05.43 You know, I think that that's great a question, 00:01:05.46\00:01:08.90 and I think that's an answer that 00:01:08.93\00:01:11.43 many people really want to know because they-- 00:01:11.47\00:01:15.00 when they ask the question, why am I here, 00:01:15.04\00:01:17.27 they are really asking why do I exist 00:01:17.31\00:01:21.01 and what is my purpose in life. 00:01:21.04\00:01:23.81 And you know, when you ask people that question, 00:01:23.85\00:01:26.05 whether they say, well, maybe I am here to have a nice job, 00:01:26.08\00:01:30.59 to make a lot of money, 00:01:30.65\00:01:32.42 I want my name to be in the lights, 00:01:32.45\00:01:34.62 I want to be famous, I want to have a great family 00:01:34.66\00:01:38.33 but a lot of times people don't really understand 00:01:38.36\00:01:41.43 why they exist. 00:01:41.46\00:01:43.50 And I think one of the things that we find out is that 00:01:43.53\00:01:46.23 there has to be some meaning in life. 00:01:46.27\00:01:50.14 There's lot of thoughts out there 00:01:50.17\00:01:53.41 and when you talk about evolution 00:01:53.44\00:01:56.08 and you talk about the big bang theory 00:01:56.11\00:01:58.58 and those things. 00:01:58.61\00:02:00.32 If I say, if I believe in the big bang theory, 00:02:00.35\00:02:04.09 for example, and I say there was a cosmic explosion 00:02:04.12\00:02:07.26 and all of this just happened randomly 00:02:07.29\00:02:09.62 with the existence of planet earth, 00:02:09.66\00:02:11.66 then that means that I am here by chance. 00:02:11.69\00:02:14.30 Random. Random. 00:02:14.36\00:02:15.76 If I say that I came from a tadpole 00:02:15.80\00:02:19.27 or I developed from a monkey than that was just by chance. 00:02:19.30\00:02:24.81 If I developed over many millions of years 00:02:24.84\00:02:28.18 then I am just here by chance 00:02:28.21\00:02:30.81 and, you know, some people have been told 00:02:30.85\00:02:34.18 about their parents, you know "you were not planned." 00:02:34.22\00:02:38.09 Yes, kind of cruel, 00:02:38.12\00:02:39.95 when people say that, don't you think? 00:02:40.02\00:02:41.62 It is, yeah, yeah. 00:02:41.66\00:02:42.99 Like they had something to do with it. 00:02:43.02\00:02:44.36 Yeah, you were not planed you were an accident. 00:02:44.39\00:02:47.56 I didn't plan on having you 00:02:47.60\00:02:49.46 and so people are walking around aimlessly 00:02:49.50\00:02:52.53 trying to find out what their purpose is in life. 00:02:52.57\00:02:55.44 And I think the reason and that that becomes so important 00:02:55.47\00:02:58.37 is because without really understanding 00:02:58.41\00:03:00.68 the meaning of life and the purpose of life, 00:03:00.71\00:03:04.18 people are really living a life on empty, 00:03:04.25\00:03:07.65 they are not living a life of fullness, 00:03:07.68\00:03:10.59 they are not able to give all and invest all, 00:03:10.62\00:03:13.49 as to why they are really here. 00:03:13.56\00:03:15.62 And I think that the word of God tells us 00:03:15.66\00:03:19.63 really a little bit about 00:03:19.66\00:03:22.23 what our meaning in life is, what our purpose in life is. 00:03:22.26\00:03:25.33 It does? Yeah, it does. 00:03:25.37\00:03:27.14 So I want to begin by looking at a scripture. Okay. 00:03:27.20\00:03:31.01 That's found in Colossians, Chapter one. 00:03:31.04\00:03:35.04 Colossians chapter one. And verse... 00:03:35.08\00:03:38.78 And that's a New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, 00:03:38.81\00:03:41.82 Acts, Romans and then we get into Colossians. 00:03:41.85\00:03:44.99 Okay, for those of you who want to follow with us at home, 00:03:45.02\00:03:47.52 follow us on. 00:03:47.56\00:03:48.89 Yes, Colossians Chapter one but before you read that 00:03:48.92\00:03:51.36 I want to share this quotation that comes from 00:03:51.39\00:03:56.73 a senior research fellow, 00:03:56.80\00:03:59.43 who's focus was human molecular genetics. 00:03:59.47\00:04:04.11 His name is Dr. Michael Denton 00:04:04.14\00:04:06.44 and Rick Warren quoted him in his book 00:04:06.47\00:04:09.81 "The Purpose Driven Life" and he says, 00:04:09.84\00:04:11.98 "All the evidence that is available 00:04:12.01\00:04:14.72 in biological sciences supports the core proposition, 00:04:14.75\00:04:20.36 that the cosmos is a specially designed hole 00:04:20.39\00:04:24.96 with life and man kind as a fundamental goal and purpose, 00:04:24.99\00:04:31.17 a whole in which all facets of reality have their meaning 00:04:31.20\00:04:36.67 and explanation in this central facts." 00:04:36.71\00:04:40.88 So this scientist says that everything that is designed, 00:04:40.94\00:04:45.98 man kind, life, all has a fundamental goal and purpose, 00:04:46.01\00:04:52.72 every facets of life has some meaning. 00:04:52.75\00:04:55.99 So it didn't-- it just kind of didn't randomly evolve 00:04:56.02\00:05:00.43 or just kind of-- like a chair, okay, or desk here or-- 00:05:00.46\00:05:05.23 these don't have any-- 00:05:05.27\00:05:06.63 well, they have a purpose for our sit 00:05:06.67\00:05:08.40 but as far as living and breathing entities, 00:05:08.44\00:05:11.51 you are saying that's no accident. 00:05:11.54\00:05:12.94 There is not accident, it was not just, you are here. 00:05:12.97\00:05:17.48 Now you try to figure it out all on your own. 00:05:17.55\00:05:21.32 Is there any role that we have as individuals 00:05:21.35\00:05:24.52 as far as our hopes and our dreams and our aspirations, 00:05:24.55\00:05:28.66 is there some part that place in it, 00:05:28.69\00:05:31.26 as well as-- is it okay to set goals? 00:05:31.29\00:05:33.26 We are going to get into that. Okay. 00:05:33.29\00:05:35.26 But before I answer that question, 00:05:35.30\00:05:37.03 I want to do that-- 00:05:37.07\00:05:38.77 I want to start with the text in Colossians 1 00:05:38.80\00:05:41.14 'cause that's gonna lead us into 00:05:41.17\00:05:43.77 what the question that you just asked. 00:05:43.81\00:05:45.84 So we are looking in Colossians, right? 00:05:45.87\00:05:47.64 Colossians 1:16. Okay. 00:05:47.68\00:05:49.81 And so for those of you at home someone said 00:05:49.84\00:05:52.18 Mathew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, 00:05:52.21\00:05:55.82 I and II Corinthians. 00:05:55.85\00:05:57.79 Go, ye popcorn. 00:05:57.82\00:05:59.15 Well, we are not saying go ye popcorn, 00:05:59.19\00:06:01.72 well, we could actually reading the word of God but... 00:06:01.76\00:06:04.06 But Colossians, no. 00:06:04.09\00:06:06.03 Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, 00:06:06.06\00:06:09.46 Colossians, that's a little accretive. 00:06:09.50\00:06:11.70 Okay so, here we are, 00:06:11.73\00:06:13.07 we can find all together, find Colossians. Right. 00:06:13.10\00:06:15.60 Okay, and verse you said? 16. 16. Colossians 1:16. 00:06:15.64\00:06:19.94 "For by him were all things created, 00:06:19.97\00:06:22.51 that are in heaven and that are in earth, 00:06:22.54\00:06:25.18 visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, 00:06:25.21\00:06:28.35 or dominions, or principalities, or powers: 00:06:28.38\00:06:31.82 all things were created by Him and for Him." 00:06:31.85\00:06:35.62 And this text is powerful 00:06:35.66\00:06:37.43 because it gives us a little insight 00:06:37.46\00:06:39.16 to the creativeness of the God. 00:06:39.19\00:06:41.56 It says for by him speaking of Jesus, 00:06:41.60\00:06:44.37 by Jesus all things were created 00:06:44.40\00:06:47.00 and then the last part of that text says that 00:06:47.04\00:06:49.37 "all things were created through Him 00:06:49.40\00:06:53.48 and then all things were created for him." 00:06:53.54\00:06:57.75 So that tells us two things, number one, 00:06:57.78\00:07:00.75 first we remain by God and then two 00:07:00.78\00:07:06.39 we were created by God for His purpose. 00:07:06.42\00:07:09.92 Now why that's so important 00:07:09.96\00:07:11.96 to the meaning of life and purpose 00:07:11.99\00:07:13.86 is because we don't exist for ourselves. 00:07:13.93\00:07:17.57 So the point is not that we exist 00:07:17.60\00:07:21.94 to do what we want to do, 00:07:21.97\00:07:23.54 we don't exist for our own ambitions, 00:07:23.61\00:07:26.57 we don't exist for our own goals, 00:07:26.61\00:07:29.74 we don't exist for our own dreams, our own aspirations, 00:07:29.78\00:07:33.45 so a lot of times in life, the question is 00:07:33.52\00:07:38.09 asked to us or we ask ourselves 00:07:38.12\00:07:40.96 what is it that I want to do 00:07:40.99\00:07:43.46 or what is it that I want to be or I want to become? 00:07:43.53\00:07:48.23 But the better question is asking 00:07:48.26\00:07:50.63 since God made me and I am created for His purpose. 00:07:50.67\00:07:55.84 What is it that God would have for me to do? 00:07:55.87\00:08:01.01 What is it that I am supposed to do 00:08:01.04\00:08:02.94 in my station of life? 00:08:02.98\00:08:05.05 What is it that God wants me to accomplish? 00:08:05.08\00:08:08.58 What is His will and desire for me? 00:08:08.62\00:08:13.89 And that's a big shift because that moves me away from what 00:08:13.92\00:08:17.56 I want to do and what I am about 00:08:17.59\00:08:19.86 to living a life that is sold out completely 00:08:19.89\00:08:23.13 for fulfilling God's purpose through me. 00:08:23.16\00:08:26.74 So do I then just kind of sit in my easy chair of life 00:08:26.77\00:08:30.84 and just say I am going to sit right here 00:08:30.91\00:08:33.98 until God shows me what I am supposed to do, 00:08:34.01\00:08:37.91 is that what we do? 00:08:37.95\00:08:39.28 Do we just kind of sit and wait? 00:08:39.31\00:08:40.92 Or is there a part that we have to play 00:08:40.95\00:08:42.98 in discovering that purpose? 00:08:43.02\00:08:44.95 Yeah, I think that there is a discovery 00:08:44.99\00:08:47.76 and I think that there are many different ways 00:08:47.79\00:08:50.63 of being able to see that. 00:08:50.66\00:08:52.63 I think number one, 00:08:52.66\00:08:54.00 one of the most important things about 00:08:54.00\00:08:57.53 knowing what my purpose is in life 00:08:57.57\00:08:59.13 is number one, seeking God. 00:08:59.17\00:09:01.07 So I need to talk to God; I need to be praying to him, 00:09:01.10\00:09:04.54 asking Him what He wants me to do 00:09:04.57\00:09:07.64 and I come back to that in a minute. 00:09:07.68\00:09:09.98 Secondly, there are some gifts and some talents 00:09:10.01\00:09:13.78 that we have in life, 00:09:13.85\00:09:15.38 that we know we naturally bend toward some things, 00:09:15.42\00:09:18.39 some abilities and things that we have to do, 00:09:18.42\00:09:20.49 so we know that can play into it as well. 00:09:20.52\00:09:23.76 And then other people contribute toward it 00:09:23.79\00:09:26.16 because sometimes we don't have the ability 00:09:26.19\00:09:29.03 to see everything in ourselves 00:09:29.06\00:09:31.47 but other people can see as well, 00:09:31.50\00:09:33.44 in fact, that really goes a hand in hand 00:09:33.47\00:09:36.40 with self discovery as I am looking, 00:09:36.44\00:09:38.57 I might say, you know what, 00:09:38.61\00:09:40.91 I think that this is what I am supposed to be doing 00:09:40.98\00:09:44.65 and that someone else, somewhere along in life 00:09:44.68\00:09:47.02 is going to come along and affirm that as well 00:09:47.05\00:09:49.55 because if no one else can see it. 00:09:49.58\00:09:51.72 Like if so, like if I say, 00:09:51.75\00:09:53.96 I think that I should become a concert pianist. 00:09:53.99\00:09:57.86 Yes. And I can't play. 00:09:57.89\00:10:00.10 There you go. Right. 00:10:00.13\00:10:01.60 Yeah, I have no ability to be able to play 00:10:01.63\00:10:05.57 but I say I am suppose to be a concert pianist 00:10:05.60\00:10:08.20 and everyone else around me is telling me 00:10:08.24\00:10:10.01 that's my gift and I am pushing on 00:10:10.07\00:10:12.27 that may not be your gift. 00:10:12.31\00:10:13.74 Right, so you are saying that 00:10:13.78\00:10:15.11 the gift should make room for themselves, 00:10:15.14\00:10:16.58 as a saying goes "that people should see that." 00:10:16.61\00:10:18.78 Other people should see that 00:10:18.81\00:10:20.58 but those gifts and those talents, 00:10:20.62\00:10:23.79 all kind of fit into the overall arching purpose of life 00:10:23.85\00:10:27.12 and what I want to say is this 'cause this is important. 00:10:27.16\00:10:30.59 It does not mean because I am successful right now in life 00:10:30.63\00:10:35.76 that I am fulfilling my purpose. 00:10:35.80\00:10:39.13 Really? 00:10:39.17\00:10:40.50 Doesn't mean because, you know, things are going well, 00:10:40.57\00:10:45.31 I've got a very successful job, 00:10:45.34\00:10:48.61 you know, lots of money is flowing in 00:10:48.64\00:10:50.28 and what I am doing 00:10:50.31\00:10:51.75 because I put my hand to it and it prosperous 00:10:51.78\00:10:54.38 and that could be the other side as well, 00:10:54.42\00:10:55.75 because I don't see all the results of it as of yet 00:10:55.78\00:10:58.45 it does not mean that I am not within my purpose. 00:10:58.49\00:11:01.29 It's really more, the first key is really 00:11:01.32\00:11:04.33 seeking God through prayer 00:11:04.36\00:11:06.29 and through having a relationship with Him 00:11:06.33\00:11:09.20 to come to and understand about the plan 00:11:09.23\00:11:11.67 that He has for my life. 00:11:11.70\00:11:13.60 And I want to look at another scripture on that. 00:11:13.64\00:11:15.30 Oh, okay. 00:11:15.34\00:11:16.67 We want to go to Jeremiah, that's Old Testament, yeah. 00:11:16.71\00:11:20.84 Okay, look I just turned right here, Jeremiah. 00:11:20.88\00:11:23.71 Yeah. Okay. We want to go to Jeremiah. 00:11:23.75\00:11:26.55 These pages are getting stuck here. 00:11:26.58\00:11:28.15 Jeremiah Chapter 29. Jeremiah Chapter 29. 00:11:28.18\00:11:32.52 Jeremiah Chapter 29, verses 11 and 12. 00:11:32.55\00:11:39.26 "For I know the thoughts," oh, I like this scripture, 00:11:39.29\00:11:42.73 I always like that scripture. 00:11:42.76\00:11:44.23 "For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, 00:11:44.27\00:11:47.27 saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, 00:11:47.30\00:11:49.60 and not of evil to give you an expected end. 00:11:49.64\00:11:53.07 Then shall ye call upon me, 00:11:53.11\00:11:55.34 and ye shall go and pray unto me, 00:11:55.38\00:11:57.61 and I will hearken unto you." 00:11:57.65\00:12:00.22 Now that's traditional King James Version. 00:12:00.25\00:12:03.52 Yeah, so we just want to extract or pull out 00:12:03.59\00:12:06.59 one small portion there and it is that God says, 00:12:06.62\00:12:10.73 "I have plans for you." 00:12:10.76\00:12:12.16 So when we talk about well, you know, I am sitting 00:12:12.19\00:12:14.73 and do I twiddle my thumbs, how do I really discover. 00:12:14.76\00:12:19.37 Well, if God says that He has a plan for you, 00:12:19.40\00:12:22.47 then it becomes His responsibility 00:12:22.50\00:12:25.17 to reveal that plan. 00:12:25.21\00:12:26.74 Sometimes you might hear God's voice, 00:12:26.78\00:12:30.61 sometimes it might be a strong impression, 00:12:30.65\00:12:33.72 sometimes it might be through the hands of other people 00:12:33.78\00:12:37.25 and it goes along with 00:12:37.29\00:12:39.19 as you move through this journey of life. 00:12:39.22\00:12:41.86 I think you kind of see through situations, 00:12:41.89\00:12:44.73 circumstances, doors that are opened in life 00:12:44.76\00:12:48.50 that you kind of see, 00:12:48.53\00:12:49.86 this is what I am supposed to be doing, 00:12:49.90\00:12:52.93 this is God's plan. 00:12:52.97\00:12:54.30 And so let me kind of talk about it this way, 00:12:54.34\00:12:57.04 when we talk about purpose, 00:12:57.07\00:12:59.41 God has something for us all to do 00:12:59.44\00:13:01.84 and one of those things is to be a light, 00:13:01.88\00:13:04.85 it is to be a representative for Him, 00:13:04.88\00:13:07.55 to be an ambassador for Him. 00:13:07.62\00:13:09.22 So let's take a look at a great scripture text, 00:13:09.25\00:13:13.22 Matthew 5:16. Okay. 00:13:13.25\00:13:16.62 This is why it's so nice to have more than 00:13:16.66\00:13:19.29 one Bible in one's library 00:13:19.33\00:13:21.80 that way like we just read from the King James, 00:13:21.83\00:13:24.63 I think I am gonna try the New International, all right. 00:13:24.67\00:13:27.77 So Matthew? Chapter 5 and verse 16. 00:13:27.80\00:13:30.47 And these are the very words of Jesus Himself 00:13:30.51\00:13:32.51 that speaks to us about purpose. 00:13:32.54\00:13:34.94 Okay, Matthew 5:16. 00:13:34.98\00:13:38.61 "In the same way let your light shine before men, 00:13:38.65\00:13:42.35 that they may see your good deeds 00:13:42.38\00:13:44.52 and praise your Father in heaven." 00:13:44.55\00:13:46.76 So this text kind of speaks to us 00:13:46.82\00:13:49.42 on the fact that we are to be a light. 00:13:49.46\00:13:51.79 Now early in the passage Jesus says that 00:13:51.83\00:13:54.10 we ought to be the salt of the earth. 00:13:54.13\00:13:55.60 We got to make people thirsty for the gospel. 00:13:55.63\00:13:58.47 In this text He said, 00:13:58.50\00:13:59.87 we need to be the light of the world 00:13:59.90\00:14:01.70 and that light is not supposed to be, 00:14:01.74\00:14:03.84 you know, people looking at us and say, 00:14:03.91\00:14:05.87 "Oh, man, you're such a wonderful person, 00:14:05.91\00:14:07.58 you got great talent, purpose all of that, 00:14:07.61\00:14:09.91 I see all of that in you." 00:14:09.94\00:14:11.28 But instead, we're supposed to be 00:14:11.31\00:14:13.11 the reflectors of Jesus Christ, 00:14:13.15\00:14:15.42 so that when people see the things that we do, 00:14:15.45\00:14:18.15 the way that we carry ourselves, 00:14:18.19\00:14:19.89 the professions that we have, the words that we speak, 00:14:19.92\00:14:23.29 the things that we do, they might say, 00:14:23.32\00:14:25.23 "Wow, God must be real, God is inside of this person," 00:14:25.26\00:14:28.63 that's how I come to acknowledge of God 00:14:28.66\00:14:31.10 through him or her 00:14:31.13\00:14:32.47 and therefore they will glorify God 00:14:32.50\00:14:35.60 which is in heaven. 00:14:35.64\00:14:36.97 So all of us have this purpose of being a light, 00:14:37.01\00:14:40.88 being a representative, being an ambassador for God 00:14:40.94\00:14:46.18 so to speak. 00:14:46.21\00:14:48.02 And what we do is the vehicle 00:14:48.05\00:14:50.85 of being that representative for God. 00:14:50.89\00:14:52.45 So I put it this way, I am a pastor but the pastor-- 00:14:52.49\00:14:59.19 being a pastor is not my purpose in life, 00:14:59.23\00:15:02.33 that's the vehicle that God uses to help me 00:15:02.36\00:15:05.60 to accomplish the overall purpose that He has. 00:15:05.63\00:15:08.20 So some people are teachers, some people are doctors, 00:15:08.24\00:15:10.94 some people are nurses and lawyers 00:15:10.97\00:15:13.58 and all different type of professions and yes, 00:15:13.61\00:15:16.38 they have the abilities and the gifts to do those things 00:15:16.41\00:15:19.15 and God uses that for them 00:15:19.18\00:15:21.15 to be able to accomplish their overall purpose. 00:15:21.18\00:15:24.19 So let me give you a little story behind that. 00:15:24.22\00:15:26.42 Okay. 00:15:26.45\00:15:27.79 I see my purpose in life and my ministry being larger 00:15:27.82\00:15:31.66 than just being a pastor because 00:15:31.69\00:15:34.30 if it was only by being a pastor then 00:15:34.36\00:15:36.67 when I go to church, I preach my sermon, 00:15:36.73\00:15:40.00 do my Bible studies, do my counseling, 00:15:40.04\00:15:42.64 do my visitation, 00:15:42.67\00:15:44.01 I punch in and I punch out at a certain time. 00:15:44.07\00:15:47.18 But if I got a purpose for God 00:15:47.24\00:15:48.58 that I am always supposed to be a representative for Him, 00:15:48.61\00:15:51.18 then that means no matter where I am, 00:15:51.21\00:15:54.72 I'm always working and being a light for Jesus Christ. 00:15:54.75\00:15:59.12 So sometime back, my dad was sick 00:15:59.15\00:16:02.36 and he was in the hospital and so I went to the hospital 00:16:02.39\00:16:07.30 and while I was there I'm asking God, 00:16:07.36\00:16:10.17 you know, there is reason behind this 00:16:10.20\00:16:12.20 but there is there more reason than just me being here 00:16:12.23\00:16:15.50 for my dad, and to minister to him, 00:16:15.54\00:16:19.04 to comfort him and so forth 00:16:19.07\00:16:20.48 and that was part of God's purpose. 00:16:20.51\00:16:22.11 And so my dad was having a particular test done 00:16:22.14\00:16:25.95 and we went down to the area 00:16:25.98\00:16:27.98 where they were having the testing 00:16:28.02\00:16:29.65 and I had the opportunity with my dad who's, 00:16:29.68\00:16:32.75 you know, given me care in life to now minister to him. 00:16:32.79\00:16:36.22 I am not in pulpit, I am not in the church, 00:16:36.26\00:16:38.83 you know, there is no brownie points for this, 00:16:38.86\00:16:40.80 this is not something that I put on a report. 00:16:40.83\00:16:43.00 This is just ministry now between me and my dad. 00:16:43.03\00:16:46.20 And so I get an opportunity to share scripture with him, 00:16:46.23\00:16:49.14 to give him comfort as he was getting ready to go 00:16:49.17\00:16:51.41 and to his test and then to pray with him. 00:16:51.44\00:16:54.48 Now he goes in to the test, he come back out 00:16:54.51\00:16:56.44 and while he is in recovery I am walking by 00:16:56.48\00:16:59.28 and I did not know-- 00:16:59.31\00:17:01.65 And you got to be really careful with what you do 00:17:01.68\00:17:03.55 because people are always listening to you 00:17:03.62\00:17:05.69 even sometimes when you don't recognize it. 00:17:05.72\00:17:08.09 And so I am walking by and this guy stops me, 00:17:08.12\00:17:11.13 he's getting ready to go in for a particular test as well. 00:17:11.16\00:17:14.76 And he stops me and says, "Hey, 00:17:14.83\00:17:16.40 I probably shouldn't have been doing this 00:17:16.43\00:17:18.70 but I was listening to your conversation 00:17:18.73\00:17:20.74 with your dad on the other side 00:17:20.77\00:17:22.80 and I just thought it was so powerful, 00:17:22.84\00:17:25.11 it was so meaningful the scripture that you shared 00:17:25.14\00:17:27.51 was just wonderful and awesome and I just want to say that, 00:17:27.58\00:17:30.65 you know, you're doing a wonderful thing. 00:17:30.68\00:17:32.01 Well, for me, I am like there is purpose in this, 00:17:32.05\00:17:35.08 where the God has taken this moment in time 00:17:35.12\00:17:38.22 for me to be able to reach this person, again, 00:17:38.25\00:17:40.36 this is not on the clock, 00:17:40.39\00:17:41.72 this is not within the four walls, 00:17:41.76\00:17:43.22 this not within the church, 00:17:43.26\00:17:44.59 this not something I have planned to do 00:17:44.63\00:17:45.96 but this is the purpose that God has put in my heart 00:17:45.99\00:17:48.06 and so instead of just saying well, thank you 00:17:48.10\00:17:50.97 and keeping going and going back to my dad, 00:17:51.00\00:17:53.84 I then took a time to stop 00:17:53.90\00:17:55.44 and talk with him and his wife about God 00:17:55.47\00:17:58.24 and I had the opportunity to minister to them 00:17:58.27\00:18:01.41 and pray with them about his exam 00:18:01.44\00:18:04.58 that was coming up 00:18:04.61\00:18:05.95 and to just give them some peace and comfort. 00:18:05.98\00:18:09.38 Purpose is not just something that we do, 00:18:09.42\00:18:12.12 it's in the heart, it's a part of our being, 00:18:12.15\00:18:14.32 it's everything that we are 00:18:14.36\00:18:16.69 and that's why God has to put there in us. 00:18:16.76\00:18:20.43 So Pastor, I want to ask you a question. Sure. 00:18:20.46\00:18:22.90 Because, let's say that person is in a work situation, right 00:18:22.93\00:18:28.37 and not everybody that one works with is a Christian. 00:18:28.40\00:18:33.11 Does God work purposes 00:18:33.14\00:18:35.01 maybe through one's employer to the boss, 00:18:35.04\00:18:37.95 may be through magistrates, through a judges, 00:18:37.98\00:18:41.88 through different people? 00:18:41.92\00:18:45.02 Does God only use Christians to fulfill His purpose? 00:18:45.05\00:18:48.52 No, it's interesting that you said that 00:18:48.56\00:18:52.09 because just the other day 00:18:52.13\00:18:53.50 I was reading a particular text in Romans 13 00:18:53.53\00:18:56.46 about how we should relate to people 00:18:56.50\00:18:59.27 who are an authority over us, 00:18:59.30\00:19:01.37 like governors, magistrates, judges, 00:19:01.40\00:19:03.74 whatever the case might be. 00:19:03.77\00:19:05.57 And Paul says that, 00:19:05.61\00:19:07.98 these people who are in these higher positions 00:19:08.01\00:19:12.98 have been appointed by God, 00:19:13.01\00:19:14.35 in fact, they are God's representatives 00:19:14.38\00:19:17.12 to carry out justice in the land. 00:19:17.15\00:19:19.75 And so in many cases, you know, as Christians, 00:19:19.79\00:19:22.79 you know, we have a very specific focus 00:19:22.82\00:19:25.59 because we are looking for what God is doing. 00:19:25.63\00:19:28.03 But there are even other times, 00:19:28.06\00:19:30.07 where people that we speak of that are in high positions 00:19:30.10\00:19:32.70 may not even completely surrender their life to God, 00:19:32.73\00:19:35.80 that God even uses them to accomplish 00:19:35.84\00:19:39.97 His overall purpose and goal. 00:19:40.01\00:19:42.78 It becomes the part of God's will. 00:19:42.81\00:19:44.45 It's like what we see with Artaxerxes 00:19:44.48\00:19:46.51 when he helps out Nehemiah to help him to rebuild 00:19:46.55\00:19:48.82 the wall of Jerusalem 00:19:48.85\00:19:50.52 or we see Nebuchadnezzar's role in Daniel's life. 00:19:50.59\00:19:54.82 The list can go on and on of examples 00:19:54.86\00:19:57.53 that we have in scripture of how God moves and so forth. 00:19:57.56\00:20:01.40 So God can use music? God can use music. 00:20:01.43\00:20:04.03 Different music, religious music, 00:20:04.07\00:20:06.00 even some secular music to bring joy and hope to people? 00:20:06.03\00:20:09.74 God can use different leaders, different community people. 00:20:09.77\00:20:14.04 You are saying He could just 00:20:14.08\00:20:15.41 work His purposes through any and everyone? 00:20:15.44\00:20:17.85 God can work His purpose in any and everyone 00:20:17.88\00:20:20.32 but going back to the fact of people 00:20:20.38\00:20:22.62 who are trying to find their purpose, 00:20:22.65\00:20:24.62 there is always a reason behind why everything happens 00:20:24.65\00:20:28.29 and so some people are unfulfilled in life 00:20:28.32\00:20:31.83 and they are unsatisfied. 00:20:31.86\00:20:33.19 They go to their work place 00:20:33.23\00:20:34.60 and they say I just hate this job, 00:20:34.63\00:20:37.20 I don't want to be here, 00:20:37.23\00:20:38.90 I don't want to be in this situation 00:20:38.93\00:20:41.00 or they find themselves maybe as a stay at home mom 00:20:41.04\00:20:44.17 and really wish they could pursue their career. 00:20:44.24\00:20:46.91 And so a lot of times they just focus 00:20:46.94\00:20:49.38 only on that situation and what is around them, 00:20:49.41\00:20:52.51 instead of asking the question, 00:20:52.55\00:20:55.15 "What's the purpose in this? What's the meaning in this? 00:20:55.18\00:20:59.85 So God, why do you have me here in this work place? 00:20:59.89\00:21:03.22 Is it possible that I am here for more than just doing a job, 00:21:03.26\00:21:07.60 more than just punching a time clock? 00:21:07.66\00:21:10.03 Am I here because You want to use me 00:21:10.07\00:21:12.30 to be able to have influence on someone else?" 00:21:12.33\00:21:15.50 It reminds me, my family and I, 00:21:15.54\00:21:17.74 I was going to speak in a part of country 00:21:17.77\00:21:20.34 and my family was going with me 00:21:20.38\00:21:22.38 and so we were in St. Louis airport 00:21:22.41\00:21:25.21 and we were rushing to get to the airport, 00:21:25.25\00:21:27.28 I thought we were going to be late, 00:21:27.32\00:21:28.82 got there, checked in the baggage, 00:21:28.85\00:21:31.12 I ran through security. 00:21:31.15\00:21:33.46 I thought we got there just in a nick of time, 00:21:33.52\00:21:37.03 get there only to find out the flight is delayed. 00:21:37.09\00:21:41.66 The flight is delayed. The flight is delayed. 00:21:41.70\00:21:45.00 And, Karen, can you believe why the flight was delayed? 00:21:45.03\00:21:47.90 Because the light bulb in the lavatory 00:21:47.94\00:21:50.14 on the airplane was not working. 00:21:50.17\00:21:52.11 So the plane could not leave just for that fact. 00:21:52.14\00:21:54.78 Wow. So here we are, we are there. 00:21:54.81\00:21:57.18 According to regulations, 00:21:57.21\00:21:59.11 they can't leave without their light working. 00:21:59.15\00:22:01.82 It was almost a possibility of the flight not going out. 00:22:01.85\00:22:05.02 Now we are traveling, this is business 00:22:05.05\00:22:07.66 but it's also some pleasure as well. 00:22:07.69\00:22:09.19 We are looking forward to having this time to relax, 00:22:09.22\00:22:11.59 we really don't want to lose this day. 00:22:11.63\00:22:13.73 Yeah, you're ready, set, go. Ready, set, go. 00:22:13.80\00:22:17.37 But I said to my family, I said, you know, 00:22:17.43\00:22:19.33 maybe we really need to seek God and just pray 00:22:19.37\00:22:22.60 about what God would have us to do while we're here. 00:22:22.64\00:22:25.91 Maybe there is a reason or purpose 00:22:25.94\00:22:29.48 behind why we're here in the airport. 00:22:29.51\00:22:32.11 And so we pray this prayer in the middle of the... 00:22:32.15\00:22:34.42 Really, you stopped right there? 00:22:34.45\00:22:35.78 Stopped right there, family, son, myself, 00:22:35.82\00:22:38.59 my wife, my son, myself and we prayed right there 00:22:38.62\00:22:42.16 and we asked God's purpose. 00:22:42.19\00:22:43.89 While we're sitting there I noticed that there was a mom, 00:22:43.93\00:22:46.26 who's got two children. 00:22:46.29\00:22:47.60 She's traveling to see some other family by herself, 00:22:47.66\00:22:50.03 husband can't go with her. 00:22:50.10\00:22:51.67 And she's got a child who is just very energetic 00:22:51.70\00:22:55.87 and he is running all through out the, 00:22:55.90\00:22:58.34 you know, the airport. 00:22:58.37\00:22:59.71 And he's just very, very, very busy. 00:22:59.74\00:23:02.11 So I said to myself, 00:23:02.14\00:23:04.28 man, maybe I just need to start a conversation 00:23:04.31\00:23:08.38 with this particular lady. 00:23:08.42\00:23:11.85 So I do, we begin to talk, 00:23:11.89\00:23:13.79 as we having this conversation 00:23:13.86\00:23:15.19 she explained to me what's going on, 00:23:15.22\00:23:16.83 we're building relationship. 00:23:16.86\00:23:18.53 After a while, she takes her children 00:23:18.56\00:23:20.80 with my wife and his son 00:23:20.83\00:23:22.50 and they go to a play ground area in the airport. 00:23:22.53\00:23:25.27 So you know, we are helping with her son 00:23:25.30\00:23:28.74 to keep him calm and so forth. 00:23:28.77\00:23:31.11 So eventually the flight takes off, 00:23:31.14\00:23:34.08 we are able to go. 00:23:34.14\00:23:35.48 So we get on the plane and low and behold, 00:23:35.51\00:23:38.35 the same lady that we are ministering to 00:23:38.38\00:23:41.02 is sitting right behind us on the airplane. 00:23:41.05\00:23:43.95 Wow. She has a small child... So three in three. 00:23:43.99\00:23:47.42 Yeah, three in three and she has a little infant 00:23:47.46\00:23:51.26 and he is on the plane and as infants can be, 00:23:51.29\00:23:53.80 you know, they feel really, 00:23:53.86\00:23:55.56 you know, uncomfortable being on this plane. 00:23:55.60\00:23:57.87 So he starts to cry 00:23:57.90\00:24:00.54 and you know how it is when you are on a plane, 00:24:00.57\00:24:02.27 and people start looking around and say, 00:24:02.30\00:24:04.84 Oh, is this going to be what is going to be like this in flight 00:24:04.87\00:24:06.98 That crying baby on the plane. Right, crying baby on the -- 00:24:07.01\00:24:10.95 So my wife asked can she take the child, 00:24:10.98\00:24:17.02 so now we build relationship and this may have not happened, 00:24:17.09\00:24:20.56 if we hadn't had all of this interaction before. 00:24:20.59\00:24:24.33 She takes the child, she is holding the child 00:24:24.36\00:24:27.40 and he just instantly calms down, you know. 00:24:27.50\00:24:30.93 So we had this conversation, 00:24:30.97\00:24:33.13 you know, we plant the seed when we get off the plane, 00:24:33.17\00:24:37.21 this woman has told her whole family, 00:24:37.27\00:24:39.51 where were we going about how we helped them 00:24:39.54\00:24:41.88 and so we meet up in airport and they say are you the ones, 00:24:41.91\00:24:45.61 that helped our daughter? 00:24:45.65\00:24:47.58 You know, we have her child during this time 00:24:47.62\00:24:49.62 and we had a little opportunity to talk about Jesus. 00:24:49.65\00:24:51.75 We just planted seed, you know, 00:24:51.79\00:24:53.52 we didn't had no Bible studiy, 00:24:53.56\00:24:55.19 didn't do, you know, all this Bible studies. 00:24:55.22\00:24:58.26 And then baptized -- The whole nine yards. 00:24:58.29\00:25:00.53 Yeah, didn't do that. Making friends. 00:25:00.56\00:25:02.43 Yeah, making friends, touched this lady's life, 00:25:02.46\00:25:05.90 has not seen her again but there was purpose in that. 00:25:05.93\00:25:08.97 And many times we miss out on other things 00:25:09.00\00:25:12.51 that God would have for us to do 00:25:12.54\00:25:14.38 because we are just looking 00:25:14.41\00:25:15.74 at the normal set of circumstances, 00:25:15.78\00:25:17.88 how this thing impacts me, 00:25:17.91\00:25:19.91 how many times have we missed opportunities because 00:25:19.95\00:25:23.89 we are aggravated or we are agitated 00:25:23.92\00:25:27.16 because things are not working out the way that I am. 00:25:27.19\00:25:30.73 Self absorbed. 00:25:30.76\00:25:32.09 Sitting in traffic, sitting in an airport, 00:25:32.13\00:25:34.66 something got canceled. 00:25:34.73\00:25:36.36 Is there something more that God has for me? 00:25:36.40\00:25:40.84 So you are saying that God really is that detailed 00:25:40.90\00:25:44.07 where every single situation is under His view, 00:25:44.11\00:25:48.98 His divine view? 00:25:49.01\00:25:50.41 And everything has a purpose? 00:25:50.45\00:25:52.38 Everything has purpose. Really? Yeah. 00:25:52.41\00:25:54.35 Everything. 00:25:54.38\00:25:55.72 So we are free then to walk within that purposes? 00:25:55.75\00:25:58.09 We are free to walk within that purpose 00:25:58.12\00:25:59.69 and I think that God is so detailed 00:25:59.72\00:26:01.19 that the Bible says in Luke 12:7, 00:26:01.22\00:26:03.12 that He has the very hairs on our head counted. 00:26:03.16\00:26:05.43 That's how detailed our God is. That's detail. 00:26:05.46\00:26:08.03 If He knows the number of hairs that we have on our head, 00:26:08.06\00:26:12.63 even after we get a haircut, if He knows that... 00:26:12.67\00:26:16.07 That's a good one. 00:26:16.10\00:26:17.44 If He knows that, then He's also concerned 00:26:17.51\00:26:21.31 about every small thing that's going on in our lives 00:26:21.34\00:26:24.91 and that means through every event of every day, 00:26:24.95\00:26:28.32 God has a plan and He wants to know 00:26:28.35\00:26:31.32 if we would move ourselves in harmony 00:26:31.35\00:26:34.16 to find out what He wants to do for us. 00:26:34.19\00:26:36.36 And the wonderful thing is that 00:26:36.39\00:26:37.89 God puts us on the road of self discovery. 00:26:37.93\00:26:40.63 He won't always come and say, "This is my plan for you." 00:26:40.70\00:26:44.30 All right. 00:26:44.33\00:26:45.67 But He allows us to figure it out, 00:26:45.70\00:26:47.20 as He asked Adam, "Where are you?" 00:26:47.24\00:26:50.47 He allows us to ask those questions 00:26:50.51\00:26:52.71 and us to ask questions of Him 00:26:52.74\00:26:55.04 and that's how we discover our purpose in life. 00:26:55.08\00:26:58.05 Pastor would you offer prayer for those of us 00:26:58.08\00:27:00.65 and who are watching and participating, 00:27:00.68\00:27:02.88 who are willing to know more about 00:27:02.92\00:27:05.25 really getting holding in on that purpose wherever we are. 00:27:05.29\00:27:08.02 Could you offer the prayer please? 00:27:08.06\00:27:09.49 I can. 00:27:09.52\00:27:11.06 Lord, we are just so thankful that you are God who loves us 00:27:11.09\00:27:16.33 and created us and made us 00:27:16.36\00:27:19.37 fearfully and wonderfully in your image. 00:27:19.40\00:27:23.10 We are thankful, Lord, that we are created by you 00:27:23.14\00:27:26.24 and for You and You have things Lord, that you want us to do 00:27:26.27\00:27:30.88 and so Lord as I pray, I pray for our viewers 00:27:30.95\00:27:35.45 that we would be able to come and discover 00:27:35.48\00:27:38.55 what our purpose is for life. 00:27:38.59\00:27:39.92 What it is that You would really have for us to do 00:27:39.95\00:27:42.56 and what vehicles you want us to use in life, 00:27:42.59\00:27:45.16 God, to be able to do it. 00:27:45.19\00:27:46.90 Lord, I just believe that it's never too late in life 00:27:46.93\00:27:50.37 to be able to fulfill one's purpose 00:27:50.43\00:27:53.23 and so Lord, if that means for us to going back to school 00:27:53.30\00:27:56.57 or changing professions or doing something different, 00:27:56.60\00:28:00.11 oh, God, we just make ourselves available to you 00:28:00.14\00:28:03.68 and we say not our will be done but thy will be done. 00:28:03.71\00:28:08.52 Help us to take advantage, Lord, 00:28:08.55\00:28:10.42 also of the common places in life. 00:28:10.45\00:28:13.99